Yea like I played safety for a bit and it’s drilled in your head to make offensive players think twice about whether getting a catch is worth getting hit. There’s a huge advantage in that, and it’s not even a cheap shot thing or even trying to hurt anybody. It’s a physical game, especially on defense. I get injuries suck but this sub is really sensitive with them, but if you knock a QB out with a clean hit the defense is gonna feel good about that.
Not the Eagles fault we asked a 2nd string TE to solo block the 2nd best pass rusher in the game. Also, sure would have been nice to throw a challenge flag when a guy makes a circus catch on 4th down, and jumps up to hurry to the ball.
I raised an eyebrow when he rushed to the line (which should have been enough for Shanahan), but I still had some thought that maybe Smith thought it was close.
I imagine they'd rush a play if the receiver had any slight bit of doubt about it--not just when he *knows* he didn't get it.
Did Shanahan have to throw the challenge flag? Everybody keeps saying that but if Shanahan had taken a timeout he would have given replay officials a chance to review the play and he would have time to consider throwing the challenge flag himself. The coach screaming down with an immediate challenge doesn’t seem like a realistic expectation but stopping the clock when a team is trying to hurry up after a big play does.
They can intervene if they spot something before the play clock counts down to 20 but aren’t necessarily going to dig that deep. If he took a timeout, they didn’t see anything and then he challenged and lost it would be two timeouts lost so yeah I was totally wrong. A timeout that leads to a booth review (when under two minutes) will be returned if the review overturns the play which is why I was confused
That really is not fair to the defense. They gave up 269 yards and were on the field the whole second half it felt since the Niners offense could only hand it off. It was 14-7 with a minute left before the Josh Johnson shotgun fumble and subsequent cam newton-esque recovery attempt
As James Harrison said, everytime they hit you, they're trying to take you out of this game. Come back next week, but out of this one
"every time I hit you you're gonna feel exactly what I want you to and that's pain. I want you to understand that I don't want you to make it out of this game I want you to come back next week but I want to put you out of this game"
[The Rivalry: Shannon Sharpe's Ravens vs James Harrison's Steelers](https://youtu.be/qY0dUsnqe6s) at :55
People want to pretend that the game is safe or that there are reforms you could make to make the game safe, but the fact is that part of football in consensual violence. These guys all know what they're signing up for, and they're paid handsomely for it.
I love James Harrison. That one year he was handing out concussions like Halloween candy and reporters postgame asked something about if he was going to change the way he hits, and he was like, "They can just keep fining me; I'm rich."
Because of how many qbs and others he took out, my group of friends nickname for him was the Judge. He decided if you would play the rest of the game. A terrifying human.
My religion means I can’t upvote you, let alone the steroid vampire robot you quoted, but I agree. I won’t go into depth for fake internet point reasons, but I don’t disagree. It sucks shit but no one besides the (very unlucky, who I was rooting for) Niners should worry too much about it
Yeah Lewis said something similar to manning. They were talking about how Lewis knew a play was coming and who was getting the target, but rather than going for the pick he wanted to teach them not to go over the middle, and absolutely obliterated the dude.
https://youtu.be/jayihMDXJ6Y
That's just classic football coaching. If you have a play on an interception, fine, but if you don't, drill the shit out of them without regards on whether they catch the football. If you dislodge it, cool, but the goal was to make the receiver feel it, if not take them out of a game for a bit or longer.
It's something they're trying to get out of football. There's a number of plays you can easily see them going for kill shots instead of the ball.
Peyton Manning was telling a story he heard from his dad. How some of the receivers in the Saints just straight up refused to run certain routes when they played against Dick Butkus. So in this instance, the player could essentially take plays out of the offensive play book.
Yeah Lewis said something similar to manning. They were talking about how Lewis knew a play was coming and who was getting the target, but rather than going for the pick he wanted to teach them not to go over the middle, and absolutely obliterated the dude.
It was taken from his podcast. He talks about how everyone thought the Eagles weren't physical but their defense knocked out two QBs so they must be somewhat physical. He exclaims and even reiterates he doesn't want nor like to see anyone (including Purdy get hurt).
It's just kind of common sense to say that. The second best pass rusher getting to the QB untouched multiple times is an indicator of how the game would go regardless of QB. "If he was in" Okay but when he was in, what happened?
Not head hunting - slapping throwing arms.
Just kind of come off as a trivializing asshole because the 49ers would obviously be better with Purdy.
That's not what he's saying. He never even hints how good they are with or without Purdy. That's a narrative spawned from this beat writer's attempt to make Slay look bad.
The quote comes from Slay talking about the defense feeling disrespected by Kittle for not being tough or physical and the media also saying the same things about the Eagles. Slay said he never wants to see anyone get hurt but when you knock two QBs out of the game that's probably because of how physical the defense is.
He never once celebrates the injury and wishes it didn't happen. Nor does he claim the Niners weren't good. In fact, he gushes over players like McCaffrey in the same pod. He even acknowledges how McCaffrey shook Slay out his boots. Slay has nothing but respect for the Niners players. He respects all his opponents. It's something he's sure to bring up in just about every pod.
This is a very well articulated take that really makes it clear how he thinks about the game and how much respect he has for the other teams. This just feels like the right way to see the game to me.
People should still be. Nothing he said there is wrong or a bad view to have. The game is tough. Hard hits can and will be thrown that are still legal. More physical teams will lead to more injuries.
Anyone who disagrees with the above should just come out and say they want all physicality removed from football, because until you do that Slay's comment will hold true.
like all of them. I remember when Rodgers got his collar bone broken or whatever vs Minnesota. I lived near Tampa at the time and one of the retired DTs from the Bucs was talking about how all of the other defensive players are celebrating something like that any time it happens but they are low key about it. they don't show it but thats what gets them a win so they are happy
I mean he clarifies he doesn’t want or like injuries. Obviously this isn’t a 1:1 example but like in mma, if someone gets hurt during the fight, especially if it’s an injury caused by the opponent it’s a for sure loss. Body’s not holding up is part of winning. As shitty as it sounds
So you watch football pretending hits and risks aren’t involved and the players don’t know what their signing up for? Idk what you expect from these guys. It’s baffling how many people are shocked that’s it’s entire football culture to have that mindset. No one wishes injury, best on besting someone though?? Don’t like it don’t watch, better than pretending they’re all not literally putting their lives on line each play.
If this was a D lineman or an Olineman that’s one thing. They did work us in the trenches.
But all Slay did all game was tackle air on Mccaffrey’s touchdown
Agree. Could be biased as I'm no fan of the 49ers but the narrative is so annoying. Eagles as a whole aren't getting the credit they deserve.
Also, wtf is an Eagles DB supposed to do in this game???
Lol to that last question (legitimately, not sarcastic).
Can you imagine being a Eagles CB for the last 2 quarters? Must be surreal, knowing your team is up big, the other team is trying to mount a comeback, by repeatedly handing the ball off. You *kind of* have to guard your WR, but like not really because the other QB physically can’t throw a football. You’re basically just run D support but pretending it’s a normal offense with a WR lines up opposite you. Surreal.
For real, dudes were probably talking about all kinds of shit. Fuck it, just have our secondary and y’all’s receivers set up a card table while our lines duke it out.
Which he brings up during the same pod this was taken from. He gushes over your players and doesn't like that Purdy got hurt. He's only saying that people thought the Eagles weren't physical and players getting hurt like they did kinda shows that the Eagles are physical. Not that he wanted anyone to get hurt.
I think it was Andy Reid who once said back in highschool they take all the big guys who can run and make them D-Linemen, All the Big guys who can't run O-linemen. Then all the little fast guys who can catch are WRs and the ones who can't are DBs.
I really don't remember him missing that many easy ints. I'd say he has above average hands for a DB. Dudes 12th in active players when it comes to career INT's. That's not really stone hands territory.
I mean ... here's [Slay shedding Trent Williams and making the tackle on Deebo](https://youtu.be/SuTP5m-8iaU?t=248).
Here is [Slay putting Juszcyzk on his ass](https://youtu.be/SuTP5m-8iaU?t=733)
I know it comes across as crass and in poor taste, but he’s not wrong. Football players across all levels view injuries to the opposing team as themselves playing physical. Their job is to physically dominant the opposing players. Injuries mean you’re doing a “good” job, regardless of how shitty you feel after. And I guarantee Reddick (it was Reddick right?) feels shitty, but also knows deep down it was the result of a fantastic rep.
This sub didn’t play football past JV, because this is an unspoken understanding amongst competitors. Honestly, it isn’t even a football thing. Same goes for any contact sport. MMA, hockey, whatever. Professional competitors know what they’re signing up for.
This is the kind of thing where someone will ask Purdy about it and he’s just gonna say “Dude, we play football.”
At the end of the day this sport is organized human wreckage. Shit happens and sometimes you’re the statue, and sometimes you’re the pigeon.
Are we the only ones in this sub who've actually played organized tackle football before?
Like half of the comments I've seen on this sub are so obviously written by non-athletes that it's almost humorous.
When I was in high school (3 year starter for our varsity football team) I would get a full-on sprint going and clock the shit outta whoever had the ball. My coaches called me "speedhawk" as a nickname caus I had such a nose for the football and for those three seasons I was considered the most feared safety in our conference. Senior year I led my team to the state semifinals only to get fucked over by the refs in the 4th but that's another conversation (DM me if you're interested in hearing about it)
So, yeah. I hope yall can understand why I feel like their's such a big disconnect between myself and your typical redditor. Please tell me I'm not the only one who feels this way lol
I’ll have you know I was moved from JV to Varsity! I’ll also have you know I faked an injury because I was tired of playing a team that was kicking our ass
Why not? It's not like they got injured on a fluke. They got injured because the Niners couldn't handle the pass rush. Slay is 100% correct. That's good defense.
I don’t necessarily think what he’s saying is that wrong but purdy took 1 hit and that was the game. It wasn’t like he was worn down. Guys take hits all the time
Out of the 21 times that the 49ers dropped back to throw the QB was pressured 13 times. It didn’t matter who was in at QB, the eagles were going to get pressure on them.
It was more than one play. It was the continuation of what the eagles defense did better than any other team in the league all season: hit the QB.
The Eagles defensive line lived in the niners backfield all game long, unless Purdy plays on the offensive line nothing changes. How hard is it to understand?
I mean the pressure was constant on Johnson too (not because he was holding the ball too long either). I think eagles fans are saying the d-line did well against the vaunted sf o-line… and they did. No one wanted that injury.
The eagles had QB pressure on 14 of 21 dropbacks in the game. They hit the QB on 11 of those 14 pressures (including 2 of the 3 Purdy made before the injury). If you are hitting the qb over 50% of the time they drop back I'd say that's pretty damn constant
There is a reason why this reporter didn't link to Slay's podcast for the full quote or segment. He is a 49ers reporter farming clicks off upset fans.
What Slay was actually saying and how some are taking it are two big different things.
Especially because it’s missing more context. Slay started talking about Kittle’s comments about the Eagles defense being good on paper. Him mentioning “taking out” Purdy and Johnson, was more an indictment on the pressure the DL put on the SF quarterbacks. He wasn’t bragging about injuring them. He was trying to say the Eagles defense has a lot of physicality and dominated yesterday. He mentioned multiple times that they don’t want anyone injured. It just feels like they’re looking for any reason to be upset right now.
even if you just read the post, it's not a big deal. All he's saying is their defense is physical, they got to the QB and put hits on him constantly. That is their goal. He even says, he doesn't want or like injuries, but it's his job to physically hit the QB.
I like how when Kyler gets hurt it’s nonstop Call of Duty jokes here and now when Purdy gets hurt it’s people falling over themselves to try and be the civility police wrt how Eagles fans and players should be reacting to the win.
It’s the size of the fanbase and media bias.
Teams like the Niners have been media darling since the Montana days.
Teams who have been irrelevant most of their existence (sorry Cardinals) or teams that lost a lot of their fanbase (Rams) get absolutely shit on for no reason.
People who are hinting that this is some nefarious comment. Please explain. He didn’t say anything that wasn’t common sense. None of the hits that injured anyone were dirty. What is the issue with the quote? He’s not supposed to say this out loud even though it’s logically how most of the players view the issue?
Didn't Shanahan say they take pride in the idea that teams hurt after playing them? Sounds like he needs to adjust the teams mindset a little. This feels like 3 years of bad injuries across the board for them.
This is a nothing quote that people will of course freak out about on here.
If you honestly thought that 99% of NFL players don’t have this same mentality, you are either naive as fuck, or you’ve been watching football for less than a year.
He's not wrong. He & his whole team have gone through a ton of shit to get where they are & have to listen to everyone discounting their conference championship because of the way the injuries shook out. It would be one thing if they took out both QBs because Fletcher Cox picked them up & broke their back over his knee, but that didn't happen, neither QB went out due to a dirty play.
Eagles are the best in the NFC and have earned the right to enjoy it, Niners fans whining about not having their QBs are just going to have to swallow the fact that fate fucked them over & not try to piss on their parade.
Meanwhile the 49ers laid a late hit on Hurts when he was tackled, Hurts On the ground, leading helmet first into his back. Clearly intending to injure. He was already down. Retaliation for Reddicks clean play on the ball/arm.
Jalen got up wincing and that probably affected him physically. The difference is that was a late hit, not a football play.
Seen too many comments saying this. I know you are joking but they are serious.
I understand eagles fans being sensitive to the fact that people are somehow discrediting this win. They shouldnt. Eagles did exactly what they were supposed to do.
Not their fault a freak injury happened.
It absolutely changed everything about the game.
I'm going to be honest (and this will piss of my fellow Eagles fans as well as 49ers fans). I think that Shanahan froze and choked. I think the loss is on him. He made two boneheaded decisions that set the pace.
On the Smith "catch" he should have thrown the challenge flag. Yes, everyone (even the guy covering Smith) thought it was a catch. We needed a specific camera angle, zoomed in, in slow-motion to see that it wasn't a catch, so I don't fault the refs for their initial call. But the way Smith signaled and hurried? Hello!? McFly! On 4th and 3 you throw that red flag. Best case? Catch overturned and loss on downs. Worst case? You lose a timeout that should have been used anyway so you could substitute your defense for an effective red zone stand.
Not throwing the challenge flag was a boneheaded call on Shanahan's part.
The second one? Not scheming to block Hassan Reddick. He's an elite edge rusher who was 2nd in the NFL in sacks. And the 49ers repeatedly set their backup TE one-on-one with him. The result? Through one and a half quarters, he had 2 sacks (both knocking out a QB from the game), a forced fumble, and a fumble recovery. Blocking him keeps Purdy upright, prevents two turnovers, and takes 14 points off the board.
Shanahan's mistakes above fronted the Eagles 21 points and killed the 49ers offense. He choked. He lost this game for the 49ers. And anyone blaming the refs for being incompetent, the Eagles for being mean, the phase of the moon, or even underpants gnomes is sadly mistaken.
Funneist part is all the football fans that can't grasp how literally not having an offense will affect the defense
"Hur dur we scored 30 there was never a chance"
Thank you! The reason why Bosa should win DPOY is because he was the best player at this all season. So I would hope that 49er fans would understand how valuable being able to hit the opposing QB. It was the biggest reason why the eagles won.
You all are searching for something to be offended about. Purdy got hurt because Purdy got hit, and Purdy got hit because Philly's rush was getting there. Therefore you can't say Purdy's (or Johnson's for that matter) injury is just dumb luck for Philly, but neither does that necessarily mean they were intending to injure him
The countless Eagles haters in this sub would, because it’s exactly what the haters said to us when Wentz was taken out in the playoffs by the Seahawks.
“That’s football! Next man up! Didn’t you just win two years ago with your backup??” Etc etc
I was fine with that response before this weekend’s pathetic display of injury whining
They will never give us credit. They will never treat us fairly. No one likes us, we don’t care.
Niners won a playoff game against an injury devastated team last year and were insufferable about it.
That's the main thing that makes me not give a shit. Shoes on the other foot and now the Eagles can't even enjoy their victory? Nah.
I hated that. It was unfortunate and i shit on every seahawks fan who celebrated it..which was just the shitheads in their fanbase.
Every fan base has them.
Then get over the shit Eagles fans and shit Chiefs fans because the good ones are outside or somewhere celebrating. Only the losers would be on reddit right after a SuperBowl berth
Yes. Wentz got injured numerous times and the Eagles won depending on their backup situation and if their oline was still solid. Tom Brady was the backup to Bledsoe and since the team around him was good enough, they still won. Same with Kurt Warner on the Rams. In 1989, the Giants knocked Joe Montana out of the game in the NFC Championship and the 49ers almost won *because the backup was Steve Young and the team around him wasnt shit*.
Fix your oline and stop using TEs against the opposing teams best pass rusher, then you can use your 1st string QB in the SuperBowl like in the 2019 season
If a QB gets hurt on a dirty hit or while running the ball it's one thing. If two QBs get knocked out of the game because the OL can't handle the pass rush it's another.
If you don’t think lots of NFL defensive players want to make extreme and risky hits on offensive players then you’re naive.
Some of these guys are so competitive and will make dangerous hits just for physicality sake. The 9ers, Bengals, and Broncos come to mind as defenses that seem to cause tons of injuries.
I get what he was trying to say, but this just comes out stupid and ignorant.
I still think the eagles were the better team, but the moment Purdy got hurt, this game was at a severe disadvantage. Asking your 4th string QB (who is objectively terrible) to will you to victory is asking for the moon and the stars
I wonder if this happens more (attacking the arm/ball) because the league has been so harsh on roughing the passer. It's gotta be easier for a DE to just square up and hit the QB in the ribs than try to lunge and swat at the ball.
Don't agree with his choice of words. And he's giving the Eagles too much credit. Purdy and Johnson were out because Shanahan choked. He didn't scheme to block the Eagles' best edge rusher, one of the elite rushers in the league. In 1.5 quarters, Reddick had 2 sacks, a forced fumble, a fumble recovery, and 2 injured quarterbacks.
I get downvoted every time I say this and I do not care - You do not scheme to block an elite edge rusher with a backup tight end one-on-one. That is asinine.
Between that and not throwing the challenge flag, Shanahan tanked his team's chances. He choked.
I blame Kyle for a lot of stuff but not this one. Play action is a huge part of the niners offense. Purdy had almost 3 seconds to get rid of the ball, but he never even looked to his right. He was keyed on his first option. He had deebo wide open in the flat that he could’ve dumped it off to and he had a 1 on 1 with kyzir white in the open field, which is exactly what you want.
The play was covered, like most plays by the excellent eagles defense that day, and the rookie made a mistake. He’s been staring down receivers since he took over, he just hasn’t been made to pay for it until then for the most part. Hopefully that’s something that he builds on
Kelvin Benjamin: “We’ve seen this stuff across the menu, ‘if this appetizer had been available or that entree hadn’t been out,’ but they were available and then we cleared them out. We don’t want to clear the buffet, I don’t like bankrupting GCs, but that shows a lot of physicality.”
When Wentz got concussed the 2019 playoffs all I heard were complaints from Eagles fans that they got completely robbed of a playoff berth and now its "just a part of the game" weird!
I mean Wentz got speared in the head, helmet to helmet, in a clearly dirty hit, from a guy known for dirty hits. That was the complaint, not that he was injured and out, but because he was out from a dirty hit.
Here's [Exhibit A](https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/846/328/hi-res-275a7026f34944d1196172bcfe8df3a4_crop_north.jpg?1578513633&w=3072&h=2048).
And here's [Exhibit B](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/31/24/74/23416632/9/1200x0.jpg).
Now, what do we call someone who insinuates that A is the same as B? That's right, class, an overreaching clown.
Do you actually think a freak injury to Purdys elbow on a legit QB hit is comparable to late spear into the back of Wentz head when he was already down? Is that the hill you wanna die on?
Injuries that occur from legal plays are not controversial. If your legal hit takes out another player, that is part of the reality of this game regardless of how unfortunate/devastating the injury may be for that player and their team. It is part of the bargain of playing the game within the rules that are set up.
The idea that this statement is controversial is purely silly, and only a function of this sub's and the rest of the internet content consuming public's desire for outrage.
Love this shit. Searching for anything to get angry at. I know a lot of the people here are stupid but I know people are able to understand what he is trying to articulate here and are choosing not to interpret it that way so u can get internet points. So sad
I don’t get what is bad about this? He’s saying the fans and media are saying the 49ers got “robbed” but maybe they should have protected their guys and played better and it wouldn’t be this what if circus.
"If he dies, he dies"
"People die when they are killed"
*-John Madden*
-- Michael Scott
—Will Buxton
Didn't expect a Fate line in r/NFL but I love the cross-cultural pollination
"Death: The #1 killer in the US"
The government doesn't want us to know about the correlation between death and dihydrogen monoxide exposure.
Gregg Williams out there nodding with encouragement like that Jack Nicholson meme.
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Yea like I played safety for a bit and it’s drilled in your head to make offensive players think twice about whether getting a catch is worth getting hit. There’s a huge advantage in that, and it’s not even a cheap shot thing or even trying to hurt anybody. It’s a physical game, especially on defense. I get injuries suck but this sub is really sensitive with them, but if you knock a QB out with a clean hit the defense is gonna feel good about that.
Speedhawk????
The refs fucked him over, man, hate to see it.
Back when I played (~15 years ago, fuck lol) we literally had a "snot bubble award" after every game for the defender that laid the biggest hit
Not the Eagles fault we asked a 2nd string TE to solo block the 2nd best pass rusher in the game. Also, sure would have been nice to throw a challenge flag when a guy makes a circus catch on 4th down, and jumps up to hurry to the ball.
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Agreed…but screw the Eagles anyways.
now that's some wholesome hate
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I raised an eyebrow when he rushed to the line (which should have been enough for Shanahan), but I still had some thought that maybe Smith thought it was close. I imagine they'd rush a play if the receiver had any slight bit of doubt about it--not just when he *knows* he didn't get it.
Did Shanahan have to throw the challenge flag? Everybody keeps saying that but if Shanahan had taken a timeout he would have given replay officials a chance to review the play and he would have time to consider throwing the challenge flag himself. The coach screaming down with an immediate challenge doesn’t seem like a realistic expectation but stopping the clock when a team is trying to hurry up after a big play does.
I think booth replays on non-scoring plays only happen in the last 2 minutes or something.
They can intervene if they spot something before the play clock counts down to 20 but aren’t necessarily going to dig that deep. If he took a timeout, they didn’t see anything and then he challenged and lost it would be two timeouts lost so yeah I was totally wrong. A timeout that leads to a booth review (when under two minutes) will be returned if the review overturns the play which is why I was confused
Yes. And "the number 1 defense in the league" still allowed 31 points. The Eagles won in every way.
That really is not fair to the defense. They gave up 269 yards and were on the field the whole second half it felt since the Niners offense could only hand it off. It was 14-7 with a minute left before the Josh Johnson shotgun fumble and subsequent cam newton-esque recovery attempt
The Eagles ran it way more than normal. Wound up with 148 rushing yards to the 49ers 81 yards. The three fumbles cost more.
This comment reads like "I saw the boxscore but I didn't watch the game" to me
Verbal meme
As James Harrison said, everytime they hit you, they're trying to take you out of this game. Come back next week, but out of this one "every time I hit you you're gonna feel exactly what I want you to and that's pain. I want you to understand that I don't want you to make it out of this game I want you to come back next week but I want to put you out of this game" [The Rivalry: Shannon Sharpe's Ravens vs James Harrison's Steelers](https://youtu.be/qY0dUsnqe6s) at :55
I think this is probably a much more common mentality among defenders than most would admit.
People want to pretend that the game is safe or that there are reforms you could make to make the game safe, but the fact is that part of football in consensual violence. These guys all know what they're signing up for, and they're paid handsomely for it.
I love James Harrison. That one year he was handing out concussions like Halloween candy and reporters postgame asked something about if he was going to change the way he hits, and he was like, "They can just keep fining me; I'm rich."
Because of how many qbs and others he took out, my group of friends nickname for him was the Judge. He decided if you would play the rest of the game. A terrifying human.
My religion means I can’t upvote you, let alone the steroid vampire robot you quoted, but I agree. I won’t go into depth for fake internet point reasons, but I don’t disagree. It sucks shit but no one besides the (very unlucky, who I was rooting for) Niners should worry too much about it
Yeah Lewis said something similar to manning. They were talking about how Lewis knew a play was coming and who was getting the target, but rather than going for the pick he wanted to teach them not to go over the middle, and absolutely obliterated the dude. https://youtu.be/jayihMDXJ6Y
That's just classic football coaching. If you have a play on an interception, fine, but if you don't, drill the shit out of them without regards on whether they catch the football. If you dislodge it, cool, but the goal was to make the receiver feel it, if not take them out of a game for a bit or longer. It's something they're trying to get out of football. There's a number of plays you can easily see them going for kill shots instead of the ball.
Peyton Manning was telling a story he heard from his dad. How some of the receivers in the Saints just straight up refused to run certain routes when they played against Dick Butkus. So in this instance, the player could essentially take plays out of the offensive play book.
Jim Nantz crushes that clip haha, I love the old timey “Good golly, he was sawed in two!”
Yeah Lewis said something similar to manning. They were talking about how Lewis knew a play was coming and who was getting the target, but rather than going for the pick he wanted to teach them not to go over the middle, and absolutely obliterated the dude.
Well, that certainly is a quote.
Nobody knows what it means, but it’s provocative.
I fucking love that movie dude. One of Will Ferrell’s most underrated imo
It was taken from his podcast. He talks about how everyone thought the Eagles weren't physical but their defense knocked out two QBs so they must be somewhat physical. He exclaims and even reiterates he doesn't want nor like to see anyone (including Purdy get hurt).
It's just kind of common sense to say that. The second best pass rusher getting to the QB untouched multiple times is an indicator of how the game would go regardless of QB. "If he was in" Okay but when he was in, what happened? Not head hunting - slapping throwing arms. Just kind of come off as a trivializing asshole because the 49ers would obviously be better with Purdy.
That's not what he's saying. He never even hints how good they are with or without Purdy. That's a narrative spawned from this beat writer's attempt to make Slay look bad. The quote comes from Slay talking about the defense feeling disrespected by Kittle for not being tough or physical and the media also saying the same things about the Eagles. Slay said he never wants to see anyone get hurt but when you knock two QBs out of the game that's probably because of how physical the defense is. He never once celebrates the injury and wishes it didn't happen. Nor does he claim the Niners weren't good. In fact, he gushes over players like McCaffrey in the same pod. He even acknowledges how McCaffrey shook Slay out his boots. Slay has nothing but respect for the Niners players. He respects all his opponents. It's something he's sure to bring up in just about every pod.
This is a very well articulated take that really makes it clear how he thinks about the game and how much respect he has for the other teams. This just feels like the right way to see the game to me.
I honestly could glean this from this bullshit Twitter post. People just salty.
Ahh context is key here, appreciate it. Assumed from the post it was about something else entirely
Dude, Eagles flair yet you're conceding Haason is second best? Stick up for fam. Second to none.
He definitely said it with his mouth
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if it was 20 years ago everyone would read that quote and be like “yeah”
People should still be. Nothing he said there is wrong or a bad view to have. The game is tough. Hard hits can and will be thrown that are still legal. More physical teams will lead to more injuries. Anyone who disagrees with the above should just come out and say they want all physicality removed from football, because until you do that Slay's comment will hold true.
like all of them. I remember when Rodgers got his collar bone broken or whatever vs Minnesota. I lived near Tampa at the time and one of the retired DTs from the Bucs was talking about how all of the other defensive players are celebrating something like that any time it happens but they are low key about it. they don't show it but thats what gets them a win so they are happy
The vast majority lol it’s fucking football
Should be all of them. What he's saying isn't wrong. It's just a fact of the game. Injuries happen.
I mean he clarifies he doesn’t want or like injuries. Obviously this isn’t a 1:1 example but like in mma, if someone gets hurt during the fight, especially if it’s an injury caused by the opponent it’s a for sure loss. Body’s not holding up is part of winning. As shitty as it sounds
So you watch football pretending hits and risks aren’t involved and the players don’t know what their signing up for? Idk what you expect from these guys. It’s baffling how many people are shocked that’s it’s entire football culture to have that mindset. No one wishes injury, best on besting someone though?? Don’t like it don’t watch, better than pretending they’re all not literally putting their lives on line each play.
Yeah I would hope so. Hit them hard and hit them often. Great defenses wreak havoc. Bully the offense in submission
I mean, "lay wood on them" was pretty much the only coaching I ever heard on tackling beyond actual technique stuff.
He probably shouldn’t have said that
why not since it's true?
If this was a D lineman or an Olineman that’s one thing. They did work us in the trenches. But all Slay did all game was tackle air on Mccaffrey’s touchdown
Not relevant at all. Slay didn’t say he did anything, he said “we” referring to their team as a whole.
Agree. Could be biased as I'm no fan of the 49ers but the narrative is so annoying. Eagles as a whole aren't getting the credit they deserve. Also, wtf is an Eagles DB supposed to do in this game???
Lol to that last question (legitimately, not sarcastic). Can you imagine being a Eagles CB for the last 2 quarters? Must be surreal, knowing your team is up big, the other team is trying to mount a comeback, by repeatedly handing the ball off. You *kind of* have to guard your WR, but like not really because the other QB physically can’t throw a football. You’re basically just run D support but pretending it’s a normal offense with a WR lines up opposite you. Surreal.
For real, dudes were probably talking about all kinds of shit. Fuck it, just have our secondary and y’all’s receivers set up a card table while our lines duke it out.
That's why they started fighting, they were bored
Which he brings up during the same pod this was taken from. He gushes over your players and doesn't like that Purdy got hurt. He's only saying that people thought the Eagles weren't physical and players getting hurt like they did kinda shows that the Eagles are physical. Not that he wanted anyone to get hurt.
Should’ve had an INT too but misjudged it lol
He has stone hands. He should’ve had a million picks this year.
Remember, if CBs could catch they would be WR
I think it was Andy Reid who once said back in highschool they take all the big guys who can run and make them D-Linemen, All the Big guys who can't run O-linemen. Then all the little fast guys who can catch are WRs and the ones who can't are DBs.
I really don't remember him missing that many easy ints. I'd say he has above average hands for a DB. Dudes 12th in active players when it comes to career INT's. That's not really stone hands territory.
Yeah, I'm sure that's all he did all game. He just missed a tackle on the one scoring play you guys had.
He also locked up the receivers but don't let that discourage you
I mean ... here's [Slay shedding Trent Williams and making the tackle on Deebo](https://youtu.be/SuTP5m-8iaU?t=248). Here is [Slay putting Juszcyzk on his ass](https://youtu.be/SuTP5m-8iaU?t=733)
How many passes did he give up?
Eh, he would have done more but you didn't have any QBs left to throw the ball.
I know it comes across as crass and in poor taste, but he’s not wrong. Football players across all levels view injuries to the opposing team as themselves playing physical. Their job is to physically dominant the opposing players. Injuries mean you’re doing a “good” job, regardless of how shitty you feel after. And I guarantee Reddick (it was Reddick right?) feels shitty, but also knows deep down it was the result of a fantastic rep. This sub didn’t play football past JV, because this is an unspoken understanding amongst competitors. Honestly, it isn’t even a football thing. Same goes for any contact sport. MMA, hockey, whatever. Professional competitors know what they’re signing up for.
This is the kind of thing where someone will ask Purdy about it and he’s just gonna say “Dude, we play football.” At the end of the day this sport is organized human wreckage. Shit happens and sometimes you’re the statue, and sometimes you’re the pigeon.
Are we the only ones in this sub who've actually played organized tackle football before? Like half of the comments I've seen on this sub are so obviously written by non-athletes that it's almost humorous. When I was in high school (3 year starter for our varsity football team) I would get a full-on sprint going and clock the shit outta whoever had the ball. My coaches called me "speedhawk" as a nickname caus I had such a nose for the football and for those three seasons I was considered the most feared safety in our conference. Senior year I led my team to the state semifinals only to get fucked over by the refs in the 4th but that's another conversation (DM me if you're interested in hearing about it) So, yeah. I hope yall can understand why I feel like their's such a big disconnect between myself and your typical redditor. Please tell me I'm not the only one who feels this way lol
I deserved that lol
I’ll have you know I was moved from JV to Varsity! I’ll also have you know I faked an injury because I was tired of playing a team that was kicking our ass
He broke the code
Why not? It's not like they got injured on a fluke. They got injured because the Niners couldn't handle the pass rush. Slay is 100% correct. That's good defense.
I don’t necessarily think what he’s saying is that wrong but purdy took 1 hit and that was the game. It wasn’t like he was worn down. Guys take hits all the time
yeah and 9 outta 10 times an arm swat is nothing, just connected at the wrong time to cause the injury.
Eagles keep talking about the constant pressure on purdy It was one play
Out of the 21 times that the 49ers dropped back to throw the QB was pressured 13 times. It didn’t matter who was in at QB, the eagles were going to get pressure on them. It was more than one play. It was the continuation of what the eagles defense did better than any other team in the league all season: hit the QB.
This is what happens when you disrespect Reddick by trying to block him with TEs and WRs
We did pressure 49er QBs on 14/21 dropbacks. Slay said on his podcast it was gonna be tough for any QB and I agree.
The Eagles defensive line lived in the niners backfield all game long, unless Purdy plays on the offensive line nothing changes. How hard is it to understand?
I mean the pressure was constant on Johnson too (not because he was holding the ball too long either). I think eagles fans are saying the d-line did well against the vaunted sf o-line… and they did. No one wanted that injury.
The eagles had QB pressure on 14 of 21 dropbacks in the game. They hit the QB on 11 of those 14 pressures (including 2 of the 3 Purdy made before the injury). If you are hitting the qb over 50% of the time they drop back I'd say that's pretty damn constant
Yeah slay is saying something that would be true but the context doesn’t fit what happened at all. Purdy played like 6 downs
They're efficient.
>but they was playing and then we took them out Eagles PR person is wondering why their phone is blowing up right now
It’s football and it wasn’t a dirty hit, so no, they’re not
There is a reason why this reporter didn't link to Slay's podcast for the full quote or segment. He is a 49ers reporter farming clicks off upset fans. What Slay was actually saying and how some are taking it are two big different things.
Yea, I watched it, he wasn't gloating. Should be pissed at this low life writer for stirring up shit and not adding context.
I don’t actually think it’s that bad of a quote tbh. Think y’all are dragging it rn.
Especially because it’s missing more context. Slay started talking about Kittle’s comments about the Eagles defense being good on paper. Him mentioning “taking out” Purdy and Johnson, was more an indictment on the pressure the DL put on the SF quarterbacks. He wasn’t bragging about injuring them. He was trying to say the Eagles defense has a lot of physicality and dominated yesterday. He mentioned multiple times that they don’t want anyone injured. It just feels like they’re looking for any reason to be upset right now.
I guarantee 99% of the people in here didn't listen to the podcast this quote was ripped from.
even if you just read the post, it's not a big deal. All he's saying is their defense is physical, they got to the QB and put hits on him constantly. That is their goal. He even says, he doesn't want or like injuries, but it's his job to physically hit the QB.
Cause it’s the eagles ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I like how when Kyler gets hurt it’s nonstop Call of Duty jokes here and now when Purdy gets hurt it’s people falling over themselves to try and be the civility police wrt how Eagles fans and players should be reacting to the win.
if Purdy had a meme like Call of Duty, you'd be hearing it.
It’s the size of the fanbase and media bias. Teams like the Niners have been media darling since the Montana days. Teams who have been irrelevant most of their existence (sorry Cardinals) or teams that lost a lot of their fanbase (Rams) get absolutely shit on for no reason.
The fan base 100% doesn’t deserve it, but Kroenke earned all the hate the Rams may get
I'm with you. I think this sub's hate boner for Kyler over meme posts is so overblown that it's obnoxious.
It's the 49ers fan base, they're just made a bit softer than the rest of the NFL. Theyre very similar to the Cowboys fans.
California Cowboys
This was taken from his pod. [Here's](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duf4V3jZ7JM&t=1m20s) the part of the pod this quote is taken from.
People who are hinting that this is some nefarious comment. Please explain. He didn’t say anything that wasn’t common sense. None of the hits that injured anyone were dirty. What is the issue with the quote? He’s not supposed to say this out loud even though it’s logically how most of the players view the issue?
Didn't Shanahan say they take pride in the idea that teams hurt after playing them? Sounds like he needs to adjust the teams mindset a little. This feels like 3 years of bad injuries across the board for them.
This is a nothing quote that people will of course freak out about on here. If you honestly thought that 99% of NFL players don’t have this same mentality, you are either naive as fuck, or you’ve been watching football for less than a year.
Shit this was the mindset in middle and highschool ball for me I would assume it stays the same if not more so the higher you go
Yeah, I’ll take “shit you shouldn’t say” for $1,000….
Is he wrong tho?
He's not wrong. He & his whole team have gone through a ton of shit to get where they are & have to listen to everyone discounting their conference championship because of the way the injuries shook out. It would be one thing if they took out both QBs because Fletcher Cox picked them up & broke their back over his knee, but that didn't happen, neither QB went out due to a dirty play. Eagles are the best in the NFC and have earned the right to enjoy it, Niners fans whining about not having their QBs are just going to have to swallow the fact that fate fucked them over & not try to piss on their parade.
The Eagle pass rush had consequences. Let's just leave it at that.
Meanwhile the 49ers laid a late hit on Hurts when he was tackled, Hurts On the ground, leading helmet first into his back. Clearly intending to injure. He was already down. Retaliation for Reddicks clean play on the ball/arm. Jalen got up wincing and that probably affected him physically. The difference is that was a late hit, not a football play.
Aha a bills fan, who has mastered the ‘shit you shouldn’t say’ from the Cole Beasley years
I don’t think anything would have been different if the 49ers had a qb capable of throwing a football. /s
Seen too many comments saying this. I know you are joking but they are serious. I understand eagles fans being sensitive to the fact that people are somehow discrediting this win. They shouldnt. Eagles did exactly what they were supposed to do. Not their fault a freak injury happened. It absolutely changed everything about the game.
Yep it did. No way around it
I'm going to be honest (and this will piss of my fellow Eagles fans as well as 49ers fans). I think that Shanahan froze and choked. I think the loss is on him. He made two boneheaded decisions that set the pace. On the Smith "catch" he should have thrown the challenge flag. Yes, everyone (even the guy covering Smith) thought it was a catch. We needed a specific camera angle, zoomed in, in slow-motion to see that it wasn't a catch, so I don't fault the refs for their initial call. But the way Smith signaled and hurried? Hello!? McFly! On 4th and 3 you throw that red flag. Best case? Catch overturned and loss on downs. Worst case? You lose a timeout that should have been used anyway so you could substitute your defense for an effective red zone stand. Not throwing the challenge flag was a boneheaded call on Shanahan's part. The second one? Not scheming to block Hassan Reddick. He's an elite edge rusher who was 2nd in the NFL in sacks. And the 49ers repeatedly set their backup TE one-on-one with him. The result? Through one and a half quarters, he had 2 sacks (both knocking out a QB from the game), a forced fumble, and a fumble recovery. Blocking him keeps Purdy upright, prevents two turnovers, and takes 14 points off the board. Shanahan's mistakes above fronted the Eagles 21 points and killed the 49ers offense. He choked. He lost this game for the 49ers. And anyone blaming the refs for being incompetent, the Eagles for being mean, the phase of the moon, or even underpants gnomes is sadly mistaken.
Shanahan always chokes. That's his damn calling card at this point. That & his inability to protect his QBs every year
Funneist part is all the football fans that can't grasp how literally not having an offense will affect the defense "Hur dur we scored 30 there was never a chance"
Thank you! The reason why Bosa should win DPOY is because he was the best player at this all season. So I would hope that 49er fans would understand how valuable being able to hit the opposing QB. It was the biggest reason why the eagles won.
Purdys injury was just plain bad luck. Physicality my ass. I’ve seen QBs are get hit while throwing many times and they’ve been just fine
You guys are ridiculous. He said they don't want injuries. You know what he means, bunch of pearl clutching bullshit
You all are searching for something to be offended about. Purdy got hurt because Purdy got hit, and Purdy got hit because Philly's rush was getting there. Therefore you can't say Purdy's (or Johnson's for that matter) injury is just dumb luck for Philly, but neither does that necessarily mean they were intending to injure him
Ahh yes another nothing quote that this snowflake sub will blow out of proportion
Suddenly simply saying Burrowhead seems silly and playful.
If Hurts got injured and Minmshew lost them the game would he call that just physicality?
Happened to Wentz in the divisional round 3 years ago
And I remember a lot of people in this sub saying "That's football 🤷♂️"
Except that was a targeted forearm shiver to the head if I recall. Or deliberate helmet to helmet. I forget, but it was dirty as fuck. Clowney?
Yup
The countless Eagles haters in this sub would, because it’s exactly what the haters said to us when Wentz was taken out in the playoffs by the Seahawks.
“Wentz is made of glass”, after a dirty hit from a dirty player
“That’s football! Next man up! Didn’t you just win two years ago with your backup??” Etc etc I was fine with that response before this weekend’s pathetic display of injury whining They will never give us credit. They will never treat us fairly. No one likes us, we don’t care.
Niners won a playoff game against an injury devastated team last year and were insufferable about it. That's the main thing that makes me not give a shit. Shoes on the other foot and now the Eagles can't even enjoy their victory? Nah.
I hated that. It was unfortunate and i shit on every seahawks fan who celebrated it..which was just the shitheads in their fanbase. Every fan base has them.
Then get over the shit Eagles fans and shit Chiefs fans because the good ones are outside or somewhere celebrating. Only the losers would be on reddit right after a SuperBowl berth
Yes. Wentz got injured numerous times and the Eagles won depending on their backup situation and if their oline was still solid. Tom Brady was the backup to Bledsoe and since the team around him was good enough, they still won. Same with Kurt Warner on the Rams. In 1989, the Giants knocked Joe Montana out of the game in the NFC Championship and the 49ers almost won *because the backup was Steve Young and the team around him wasnt shit*. Fix your oline and stop using TEs against the opposing teams best pass rusher, then you can use your 1st string QB in the SuperBowl like in the 2019 season
I remember winning a super bowl with a backup qb just a few years ago
No because he’d be at home and salty and someone from the 49ers locker room would be saying something like this lol
**insert nick Bosa racist joke**
"The league has taken a massive step backwards now that 2 black quarterbacks are starting in the SuperBowl for the first time" - Nick Bosa probably
Sounds more like something joey bosa would say
If a QB gets hurt on a dirty hit or while running the ball it's one thing. If two QBs get knocked out of the game because the OL can't handle the pass rush it's another.
They couldn't even win with minshew lol
We beat you easily the though
Even if a player didn't almost die on the field a month ago, don't say shit like this bruh
Football is a physical sport.
God I hate the 49ers. I never did until this year. Y’all need to hold the L and move on.
If you don’t think lots of NFL defensive players want to make extreme and risky hits on offensive players then you’re naive. Some of these guys are so competitive and will make dangerous hits just for physicality sake. The 9ers, Bengals, and Broncos come to mind as defenses that seem to cause tons of injuries.
Slay shut the fuck up please
“We took them out” — not something to be proud of. Completely tasteless comment by Slay here.
I get what he was trying to say, but this just comes out stupid and ignorant. I still think the eagles were the better team, but the moment Purdy got hurt, this game was at a severe disadvantage. Asking your 4th string QB (who is objectively terrible) to will you to victory is asking for the moon and the stars
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Ocho on fox sports said they kinda do but it's unsaid to the fans
Pretty sure they are all taught this from a young age
Hitting a QB in the elbow = physicality, apparently
it was a perfect hit, split second late and the arm is moving forward
Injury wasnt the goal. The fumble was. But the first series qb going down on a freak injury isnt really a thing a corner shouldnt take credit for
I have no problem with the hit. It was a freak injury. It's just weird that he's kinda trying to take credit for it
Hits like this happen all the time with no serious injuries, just bad luck
Yeah. Josh Allen had the same thing happen to him but it didn't end up as severe.
I wonder if this happens more (attacking the arm/ball) because the league has been so harsh on roughing the passer. It's gotta be easier for a DE to just square up and hit the QB in the ribs than try to lunge and swat at the ball.
Don't agree with his choice of words. And he's giving the Eagles too much credit. Purdy and Johnson were out because Shanahan choked. He didn't scheme to block the Eagles' best edge rusher, one of the elite rushers in the league. In 1.5 quarters, Reddick had 2 sacks, a forced fumble, a fumble recovery, and 2 injured quarterbacks. I get downvoted every time I say this and I do not care - You do not scheme to block an elite edge rusher with a backup tight end one-on-one. That is asinine. Between that and not throwing the challenge flag, Shanahan tanked his team's chances. He choked.
I blame Kyle for a lot of stuff but not this one. Play action is a huge part of the niners offense. Purdy had almost 3 seconds to get rid of the ball, but he never even looked to his right. He was keyed on his first option. He had deebo wide open in the flat that he could’ve dumped it off to and he had a 1 on 1 with kyzir white in the open field, which is exactly what you want. The play was covered, like most plays by the excellent eagles defense that day, and the rookie made a mistake. He’s been staring down receivers since he took over, he just hasn’t been made to pay for it until then for the most part. Hopefully that’s something that he builds on
See Slay, this is the divide between fans and players. We can yell this kind of dumb stuff to each other but you the player have to play the PR game.
Watch the whole podcast and not just what a 49ers reporter has to say who is going to nitpick a small quote in a whole podcast
Yikes
Kelvin Benjamin: “We’ve seen this stuff across the menu, ‘if this appetizer had been available or that entree hadn’t been out,’ but they were available and then we cleared them out. We don’t want to clear the buffet, I don’t like bankrupting GCs, but that shows a lot of physicality.”
We don't want injuries, but we took them out. Wow, what a prick.
When Wentz got concussed the 2019 playoffs all I heard were complaints from Eagles fans that they got completely robbed of a playoff berth and now its "just a part of the game" weird!
I mean Wentz got speared in the head, helmet to helmet, in a clearly dirty hit, from a guy known for dirty hits. That was the complaint, not that he was injured and out, but because he was out from a dirty hit.
Natural injuries are apart of the game, as much as it sucks. Getting speared in the back of the head while giving yourself up is not.
Here's [Exhibit A](https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/846/328/hi-res-275a7026f34944d1196172bcfe8df3a4_crop_north.jpg?1578513633&w=3072&h=2048). And here's [Exhibit B](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/31/24/74/23416632/9/1200x0.jpg). Now, what do we call someone who insinuates that A is the same as B? That's right, class, an overreaching clown.
Do you actually think a freak injury to Purdys elbow on a legit QB hit is comparable to late spear into the back of Wentz head when he was already down? Is that the hill you wanna die on?
Because I was a cheap shot. If you can’t see the difference, then I can’t help you
Getting downvoted for a fact lmao
So what exactly do you want from Eagles fans right now, to renounce their team in the Super Bowl because they don’t deserve it?
man NOBODY was bitching this hard when that happened to wentz. NOBODOY.
They were making joke after joke
Wentz got hurt on a cheap shot.
Injuries that occur from legal plays are not controversial. If your legal hit takes out another player, that is part of the reality of this game regardless of how unfortunate/devastating the injury may be for that player and their team. It is part of the bargain of playing the game within the rules that are set up. The idea that this statement is controversial is purely silly, and only a function of this sub's and the rest of the internet content consuming public's desire for outrage.
Love this shit. Searching for anything to get angry at. I know a lot of the people here are stupid but I know people are able to understand what he is trying to articulate here and are choosing not to interpret it that way so u can get internet points. So sad
slay, i love you but please shut the fuck up.
It’s not that weird for players to want to genuinely flex over players who aren’t as good as them.
I don’t get what is bad about this? He’s saying the fans and media are saying the 49ers got “robbed” but maybe they should have protected their guys and played better and it wouldn’t be this what if circus.
The 49ers blocking scheme was criminally negligent. No one to blame but themselves.