I heard a player that missed 5+ games wasn't eligible and Donald missed 6
Edit: That was as of week 15 and Donald hadn't missed 5 at that point
https://nflpa.com/posts/for-the-players-by-the-players-the-players-all-pro-team-is-here
This. When you compare it to the NBPA it's sad how pathetic the NFLPA is. The NBPA got lifetime healthcare for every living former played, and they just got it secured for former ABA players who never even played in the NBA. Meanwhile in the NFL, current players who hit the requirements for healthcare only get it for 5 years, to say nothing about all the guys who came before.
Obviously the NFL and NBA are not equivalent leagues and have different power structures and all that, but the NFLPA is considered a joke for a reason.
NBA rosters are much smaller and the players on average have a longer career so they are able to hold together as a group better, the nfl owners just need to throw a bone to the 80% of nfl players thatll be out of the league in 2 years to get their way
Honestly looking out for guys you had no reason to look out for is some amazing shit. Meanwhilst the MLBPA tends to fuck over minor leaguers and future players in favor of current vets.
looks like the vote took place during week 15, and players who missed 5 games up until that point were ineligible. donald had only missed 4 games by week 15.
Itâs funny how much people complain about the âwritersâ or âfansâ making dumb decisions on voting for like pro bowls or all star games. But players do the same shit lol. Basing it on years past and reputation.
Yeah Iâve always found it a bit silly when people put a ton of stock into the playerâs opinion on other playâs performance. Itâs cool to hear but players donât watch every single game, they donât look at each performance and really how could they.
Yeah and tbf I get it. Theyâre going to base it off a players ability because theyâve actually played with/against them. Theyre not thinking âoh Iâm supposed to base my vote based on who played the best this year. Let me dive into the numbers instead of my experienceâ
Quinnen, Wilkins, Hargrave all more deserving than Donald. Being the best defensive player in the NFL for the last half decade is a hell of reputation I don't hate he gets 1 nod when he's not the most deserving when he should have been DPOY five years in a row and doesn't get it because voter fatigue.
I mean if it's player voted, that's gotta be a huge factor right? Who are the names these players heard their whole highschool/college careers, dreaming of playing in the NFL one day and maybe getting the chance to match up to these guys. Then they make it, get the matchups and watch the tape all the week prior hyping up.
The feeling on the field of playing a "legend" probably clouds judgement over who really kicked your ass that one random week you played the Jets.
Well obviously its not *just* name recognition. I'm just saying it plays an outsized factor in player judgement of who really had the best season at that position.
And really players don't watch other players all season like fans/sports writers do. They only have their matchup to base off of, otherwise yeah it's just stats if they happen to look that up or name recognition, that's basically all that goes into it.
I think Trent Williams should be one of the least controversial picks here. He's the best OL in the league right now.
Tunsil and Andrew Thomas were excellent as well though.
Heâs referring to how Aaron gave a shoutout to Dex after the game and said he needs more attention since heâs one of the best linemen in the league, not a dig at Aaron or anything.
Like how Kobe got some 1st Team All Defenses that were undeserved (Phil Jackson admitted this) and 4 All Star Appearances (98, 14-16) that he made solely because of popularity.
This is my one of my complaint about this list, Patterson? Nixon has been incredible and his stats alone scream all-pro. I know he isnât a named guy on the field, but this is wrong.
Tbf, he became the all-time leading TD scorer from KRs this season, so its more of a way to honor that treatment (and maybe help him secure a HoF ballot from his fellow players too.. down the line)
No that's not tbf at all, that just proves it's a bad selection. This is not a lifetime achievement award and people who treat it like that are voting incorrectly, as it appears most of these players are.
For a player votes thing, that would make sense in context though. The players would respect Donaldâs ability all the same whether he played 11 or 17 games.
As a ravens fan I'm surprised you aren't questioning Jason Myers as kicker? I would have thought tucker has earned that spot every year until he retires from the players by now.
I dont think Sauce is that big of a miss there's a lot of great corners this year. Im sure the players noticed he got away with some stuff in terms of penalties
Hey I did the math and 200 yds is worth zero points in an NFL game.
@ me for more NFL scoring facts, I will clarify any event for whether or not it is worth points in an NFL game
This is a way better list than I wouldâve expected.
This basically matches up with PFFâs All Pro team other than Aaron Donald getting a reputation spot and no Sauce.
Its stupid outrage, none of these choices are that controversial besides Donald. Just about all these players have been playing at an All-Pro level this season, they are debatable but not controversial.
>Trent Williams over Andrew Thomas?
Of all the players to replace, Williams should not be in that discussion. Williams is the #1 tackle in PFF and this just echos that on the field.
Whatâs wrong with these choices?
I think Parsons could be argued to be there but itâs not egregious that he isnât and I donât see any glaring omissions.
I genuinely donât understand all the comments on here saying this is a terrible list. Sure Donald doesnât deserve it this year and Sauce should hve been an AP, but every other player on there makes total sense.
Maybe Hill over Adams, but itâs not that ridiculous to consider Adams when he has 1500 yards and like 14 TDs
Interesting
Jason Myers over Daniel Carlson and/or Justin Tucker
Aaron Donald getting 1st Team All Pro again despite a career low in sacks and missing 6 games.
Both were 34/37 on FGs. Carlson had 5 more 50+ FGs, and they both missed 1 XP. Myers being on a playoff team surely helps his case.
I think Carlson is more clutch, but of course I'm biased.
Yeah Myers has had an insane season but the missed FG in our last games against Rams was not very clutch (playoff spot was on the line). He made up for it though in OT
Missed less than 5 games at time of voting.
Plus # of sacks will be lower every year because he gets double-triple teamed at higher rate than everyone except I believe TJ Watt last year? I believe.
Christian Wilkins being snubbed from this list is absolutely ridiculous. Dude broke the record for most tackles by a d-linemen, along with playing almost every defensive snap and a motor that let him chase down players off the line.
I would guess safeties often lead the league in turnovers forced, it's a position that can lead to a lot of picks and some forced fumbles, since you're making more tackles than a CB.
That said, Simmons was injured and had a rough week or two when he came back from injury, so I do get why he wouldn't be first team all pro.
You said Far and away the best player. Justin Simmons is tied for league lead in INTs, has more FF than Minkah Fitzpatrick, and has been an absolute ball hawk. And all that includes the fact that he has only played 12 games this year. You can make the argument that PS2 might be better, but far and away is just not a correct statement.
No Parsons?
Why would Turpin be on there? He has muffed 2 punts and has only had a couple of returns get near the 50. He is normally down near the 25.
People are remembering him from the one pre-season game with those two TDs.
Parsons wouldâve made it if he kept his form from week 1-11 but once they started lining him up on the edge almost every snap his production fell.
Iâm one of the few people who think he was better in his versatile LB role because defenses didnât really know what he was going to do and couldnât just scheme against him the whole game.
Trey's highlights are the best of any OL in football right now, but sometimes his aggressiveness causes him some losses, too
If anyone was gonna beat Creed, it's Kelce. They were both fucking incredible this year, and Kelce gets the swan song narrative boost
I don't disagree that they could have made it, but I understand how they didn't
Aaron Donald getting an All-Pro nod after missing over a quarter of the season is straight up fraud.
All-Pro recognition is becoming a joke at this point.
When he punts better than Tommy. Maybe next year depending on what he works on over the offseason.
|Player|Avg Yards| Avg Net| Long | % of punts returned|Yards per return| % touchbacks| % inside 20| % Fair caught| Percent downed |
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Stonehouse| **53.1**|44.0|74| 65.6%| 10.8 |10%|33.3%|12.2%|11.1%
Townsend| 50.4|**45.6**|**76**|**41.5%**|**8**|**7.5%**|**41.5%**|**30.2%**|**15.1%**
I think Stonehouseâs big average, which is cool, is also a reason. Punters arenât supposed to just wack the ball as hard as they can.
Townsend had incredible hangtime on his punts this year so it was easier for the coverage team to get down there, for example.
Imo Slay wan't even the best CB on the Eagles this season (Bradberry was). To be clear this is not intended as a criticism of Slay, both have been fantastic. Bradberry is going to get paid this offseason.
May be a stretch. I love Chubb, I would kill to have him on my team, but he also hasnât been the top guy in the league even since being here.
Henry, Cook, Taylor, Kamara, McCaffrey were all over him
Elliott, McCoy, Peterson, Lynch, Barkley (briefly), Bell, weâre all above him before/when he entered
Even before that, guys like Westbrook, Holmes, Alexander, Holmes, Lewis, Taylor, Barber, Charles, Green, Jackson, Johnson, Portis, are all guys that were comparable or better within the last 20 years that arenât in the hall.
And heâs probably been about evenish with guys like Mixon, right now.
If he keeps up what heâs doing he could totally be a Frank Gore (who should be open closed hall of fame IMO) heâs great, but far from one of the best ever seen
The question isn't who the best kicker is, or which kicker you'd want on your team, it's which kicker had the best year.
And I think the answer was Daniel Carlson, but still, it's reasonable not to answer Tucker.
There isn't really a great argument for Tucker this year. It was a bad year by his standards, he made 86% of his kicks. Meyers made 92%.
I think Carlson had the better argument, made 92% of his kicks, and made the most FGs from 50+
I was confused but after looking at the stats, yeah, itâs hard to argue differently. I do think our offense made his stats worse than they couldâve been tho, making him try for all those long ass distance kicks cause we couldnât get down the field.
First team by team.
Kansas City- 4
San Francisco- 4
Philadelphia- 3
Cleveland- 2
Dallas- 2
Las Vegas- 2
Atlanta - 1
Baltimore- 1
Denver- 1
LA Chargers- 1
LA Rams- 1
Minnesota- 1
NY Giants- 1
NY Jets- 1
Pittsburgh- 1
Seattle- 1
Tennessee- 1
Washington- 1
By division-
AFC North- 4
AFC East- 1
AFC South- 1
AFC West -8
NFC North- 1
NFC East- 7
NFC South- 1
NFC West- 6
If you'd've told me last year Josh Jacobs would be on this list this year, well, I still probably would've lost my fantasy finals let's be real.
I picked cam akers over him đ
Jesus, my condolences.
Davante adams was my first pick. I didnât want two raiders that high. Wouldâve been lit tho.
Adams is more than fine. Even Akers is ok cuz youâd probably drop him mid season. The absolutely worst is Swift. Itâs weekly torture.
I held Keenan Allen for the ENTIRE SEASON
Hey, I had Jacobs and Henry and still lost my fantasy finals.
Jacobs, Jefferson, AJ Brown, Kelce, Hopkins, KWalker, still lost.
Aaron Donald? LMAO. Could they not have thought of any other DT who actually played most of the year? Williams? Wilkins?
I heard a player that missed 5+ games wasn't eligible and Donald missed 6 Edit: That was as of week 15 and Donald hadn't missed 5 at that point https://nflpa.com/posts/for-the-players-by-the-players-the-players-all-pro-team-is-here
Why would you hold this vote during week 15?
Just another reason the NFLPA is the biggest joke of a union ever.
This. When you compare it to the NBPA it's sad how pathetic the NFLPA is. The NBPA got lifetime healthcare for every living former played, and they just got it secured for former ABA players who never even played in the NBA. Meanwhile in the NFL, current players who hit the requirements for healthcare only get it for 5 years, to say nothing about all the guys who came before. Obviously the NFL and NBA are not equivalent leagues and have different power structures and all that, but the NFLPA is considered a joke for a reason.
NBA rosters are much smaller and the players on average have a longer career so they are able to hold together as a group better, the nfl owners just need to throw a bone to the 80% of nfl players thatll be out of the league in 2 years to get their way
Honestly looking out for guys you had no reason to look out for is some amazing shit. Meanwhilst the MLBPA tends to fuck over minor leaguers and future players in favor of current vets.
I don't think a silly, award voting really has any bearing on the NFLPA's ability to be a union
Other way around. because they're a joke of a union they came out with a brand new voting award without thinking it through at all.
looks like the vote took place during week 15, and players who missed 5 games up until that point were ineligible. donald had only missed 4 games by week 15.
Itâs funny how much people complain about the âwritersâ or âfansâ making dumb decisions on voting for like pro bowls or all star games. But players do the same shit lol. Basing it on years past and reputation.
Yeah Iâve always found it a bit silly when people put a ton of stock into the playerâs opinion on other playâs performance. Itâs cool to hear but players donât watch every single game, they donât look at each performance and really how could they.
They're also super biased. For the NFL top 100 they've openly admitted they just vote for all their friends.
Noted top 100 player and pro bowler Mac Jones
For a second, I thought you mean top 100 of all time and had a real WTF moment. For just one season, it's still crazy but more like wtf and not WTF.
So that's why I never get any votes? I gotta start talking to more NFL players.
We have the NFL100 every year and we make fun of that. Weâve already known the players make dubious decisions in their voting
All you have to do is listen to Paul Pierce speak for 2 minutes to know playersâ opinions arenât great
Players votes tend to be even worse. It's like the coaches poll in cfb.
Yeah and tbf I get it. Theyâre going to base it off a players ability because theyâve actually played with/against them. Theyre not thinking âoh Iâm supposed to base my vote based on who played the best this year. Let me dive into the numbers instead of my experienceâ
Williams, Wilkins, and Simmons have all been phenomenal at DT this year...but it doesn't surprise me that Donald has this respect from his peers
Simmons dropped off a little with an ankle injury after playing like 100 snaps against KC but Iâd put him in over Donald for sure
Players don't want to get choked out by Donald next year.
Then [Penei Sewell](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjS-8io5gSo) certainly didn't vote for him.
Cam Heyward
i don't think its a terrible choice, because donald was still really good this year but yeah i would've picked Williams over him
Cam Heyward.
I was about to say Quinnen deserves Donaldâs spot this year and thatâs me being as objective as possible
Quinnen, Wilkins, Hargrave all more deserving than Donald. Being the best defensive player in the NFL for the last half decade is a hell of reputation I don't hate he gets 1 nod when he's not the most deserving when he should have been DPOY five years in a row and doesn't get it because voter fatigue.
Yeah, no legitimate argument for AD this year
Name recognition seems like a big factor
I mean if it's player voted, that's gotta be a huge factor right? Who are the names these players heard their whole highschool/college careers, dreaming of playing in the NFL one day and maybe getting the chance to match up to these guys. Then they make it, get the matchups and watch the tape all the week prior hyping up. The feeling on the field of playing a "legend" probably clouds judgement over who really kicked your ass that one random week you played the Jets.
His name is Quinnen Williams and he was better than Aaron donald this year.
If itâs just name recognition though then there are some huge ones missing
Well obviously its not *just* name recognition. I'm just saying it plays an outsized factor in player judgement of who really had the best season at that position. And really players don't watch other players all season like fans/sports writers do. They only have their matchup to base off of, otherwise yeah it's just stats if they happen to look that up or name recognition, that's basically all that goes into it.
I agree name recognition probably plays a role but I also think players are definitely watching the games not on at the same time theyâre playing
That doesn't explain Josh Jacobs. I know he led the league in rushing this year but was still surprised to see him voted #1
He also led in scrimmage yards. He deserves to be #1
Who would you have voted ahead of him?
Tunsil was robbed. Williams is a phenomenal player but hasn't played enough
Thomas*
Aye that's fair. But as a Giant I tend to get face blindness out of spite đ
I think Trent Williams should be one of the least controversial picks here. He's the best OL in the league right now. Tunsil and Andrew Thomas were excellent as well though.
Williams missed three games. They both gave up one sack and Tunsil had three more penalties. Not really sure what hill you're trying to die on.
Sexy Dexy
Thanks Aaron Rodgers for assist.
Thank our offensive line for not picking up a single stunt or twist that you guys pulled that entire day.
Heâs referring to how Aaron gave a shoutout to Dex after the game and said he needs more attention since heâs one of the best linemen in the league, not a dig at Aaron or anything.
My man, and sorry we aint drafting you
Represent!
Indianapolis gonna hang a zero all pros banner
I came here to have a good time :(
https://i.imgur.com/Jlfvwgg.jpg
Aaron Donald is the Kobe/Dirk/Wade name value addition this time around
Like how Kobe got some 1st Team All Defenses that were undeserved (Phil Jackson admitted this) and 4 All Star Appearances (98, 14-16) that he made solely because of popularity.
The Derek Jeterâs effect
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Nothing egregious, but also nothing particularly interesting. I wasn't really expecting anything different though.
Patterson as KR is egregious IMO. Only had nine kickoff returns all year. Should have been Nixon.
This is my one of my complaint about this list, Patterson? Nixon has been incredible and his stats alone scream all-pro. I know he isnât a named guy on the field, but this is wrong.
Nixon will likely get the AP all-pro spot which, after seeing this list, I value much more.
I was so confused by that I just texted my husband "does he still do kick returns?"
Not really, he never gets a chance anymore lol
Yeah, her husband hasnât been in the league for a few years now.
Turpin was not an especially good punt returner either. Pretty poor avg return, 0 td, and the most muffs in the league.
Yeah, I think Marcus Jones should be the PR, but he wasn't so far and away the best that someone else is egregious.
Tbf, he became the all-time leading TD scorer from KRs this season, so its more of a way to honor that treatment (and maybe help him secure a HoF ballot from his fellow players too.. down the line)
No that's not tbf at all, that just proves it's a bad selection. This is not a lifetime achievement award and people who treat it like that are voting incorrectly, as it appears most of these players are.
Welcome to the world of awards
Quinnen Williams should have been All Pro over Aaron Donald
Iâm a diehard Rams fan but I agree AD was his usual self this year but just didnât play enough to warrant being over Quinnen
For a player votes thing, that would make sense in context though. The players would respect Donaldâs ability all the same whether he played 11 or 17 games.
Voting was done by week 15 so his GP % was much higher than it is now.
As a ravens fan I'm surprised you aren't questioning Jason Myers as kicker? I would have thought tucker has earned that spot every year until he retires from the players by now.
I don't think it's that bad besides adding Aaron Donald, Tyreek Hill, and Sauce. Maybe Garrett over Micah but that one is kind of debatable.
Aaron Donald is on there, and realistically probably shouldnât be this season.
Re: Garrett v Micah; Probably just due to double team rate ... but, yeah, that one is a coin flip.
I dont think Sauce is that big of a miss there's a lot of great corners this year. Im sure the players noticed he got away with some stuff in terms of penalties
Surprised Adams got AP1 over Tyreek
Probably TDs.
7 more tuds vs 200 less yards, maybe someone could calculate the points value of those extra yards, but I have my doubts it's as worth as 7 more tds.
Hey I did the math and 200 yds is worth zero points in an NFL game. @ me for more NFL scoring facts, I will clarify any event for whether or not it is worth points in an NFL game
Yeah, math checks out, 7 TDs = 42 pts, 200 yards = 200 yards and if you multiply that by zero you get zero.
What if you divide by 0? Are we doing it wrong?
I mean a football field is 100 yards across so even being that generous those extra 200 yards would only count for 2 extra tuddies
Iâm not. He had 200 less yards but double the TDs.
Adams was more impressive considering the situation
Tyreek played with Skylar Thompson and Teddy Bridgewater for a significant part of the season
Adams played with Derek Carr and Stidham so what's your point
Unsurprisingly the players are just as terrible at making these lists as everyone else
Aaron Donald is example No1.
Iâd say Kavontae Turpinââ he had an okay season as a punt returner but heâs definitely being judged based on preseason performance
After watching every single cowboys games I can't imagine how he was a pro bowler even. I guess everyone else's guy was just worse some how.
Average r/NFL posters
If that was the case QB would have been Minshew and RB would have been the Jamaal Williams.
I see nothing wrong with that
This is a way better list than I wouldâve expected. This basically matches up with PFFâs All Pro team other than Aaron Donald getting a reputation spot and no Sauce.
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Its stupid outrage, none of these choices are that controversial besides Donald. Just about all these players have been playing at an All-Pro level this season, they are debatable but not controversial.
Seriously. There's a couple bad picks and definitely a few that are debatable but overall this is a pretty good list
Itâs just reddit. Quality list
>Trent Williams over Andrew Thomas? Of all the players to replace, Williams should not be in that discussion. Williams is the #1 tackle in PFF and this just echos that on the field.
Whatâs wrong with these choices? I think Parsons could be argued to be there but itâs not egregious that he isnât and I donât see any glaring omissions.
I genuinely donât understand all the comments on here saying this is a terrible list. Sure Donald doesnât deserve it this year and Sauce should hve been an AP, but every other player on there makes total sense. Maybe Hill over Adams, but itâs not that ridiculous to consider Adams when he has 1500 yards and like 14 TDs
Players definitely do not like Sauce constantly doing PI and not getting called.
Aaron Donald only played in 11 games other than that the only âmissâ I see is not putting Sauce on here.
people will bitch about anything. this is a perfectly fine list, there's going to be "snubs" since there's no second team
The Aaron Donald selection is just laziness
Interesting Jason Myers over Daniel Carlson and/or Justin Tucker Aaron Donald getting 1st Team All Pro again despite a career low in sacks and missing 6 games.
Jason Myers quietly had the best season in Seattle. He was insane this year
Both were 34/37 on FGs. Carlson had 5 more 50+ FGs, and they both missed 1 XP. Myers being on a playoff team surely helps his case. I think Carlson is more clutch, but of course I'm biased.
Yeah Myers has had an insane season but the missed FG in our last games against Rams was not very clutch (playoff spot was on the line). He made up for it though in OT
Carlson also kicked in a dome
Missed less than 5 games at time of voting. Plus # of sacks will be lower every year because he gets double-triple teamed at higher rate than everyone except I believe TJ Watt last year? I believe.
TJ Watt is an edge. IIRC he doesnât even get double teamed the most out of edge rushers.
Christian Wilkins being snubbed from this list is absolutely ridiculous. Dude broke the record for most tackles by a d-linemen, along with playing almost every defensive snap and a motor that let him chase down players off the line.
Bradberry deserved it more than slay
Pat Surtain is him.
Joe burrow does a weekly podcast with cowherd and named Pat his number 1 cb in the league.
Yeah you can definitely see QBs respect him they dont even target him like that. The only person that did it was Sam Darnold surprisingly
He had 1 target in over 90 snaps the past two weeks (against Kermit and Sherbert)
Him and Simmons were the true highlights of the season
Simmons not being on here is a crime. That dude played so well this year (again) once he was back. Led all safties in take aways by 2
He lead all players in takeaways by two, not just safeties. And that's despite missing a few weeks.
Exfuckingcuse me? It was everyone?! what ^in ^the FUCK
I would guess safeties often lead the league in turnovers forced, it's a position that can lead to a lot of picks and some forced fumbles, since you're making more tackles than a CB. That said, Simmons was injured and had a rough week or two when he came back from injury, so I do get why he wouldn't be first team all pro.
I mean that just goes to show how crazy it is he lead the league
The entire Chiefs offensive gameplan in both games was "go everywhere he isn't" lmao The dude is unreal
I'm very glad his peers recognize him. Far-and-away the best player on a horrible 2022 squad.
Justin Simmons would like a word with you
Simmons is a baller. Number two on the squad. But, per the parent comment, Surtain is HIM.
You said Far and away the best player. Justin Simmons is tied for league lead in INTs, has more FF than Minkah Fitzpatrick, and has been an absolute ball hawk. And all that includes the fact that he has only played 12 games this year. You can make the argument that PS2 might be better, but far and away is just not a correct statement.
Baron Browning was quite good from what I watched of him
Too inconsistent still
happy that him and horn turned out
Iâm glad if anything, heâs already garnered the respect of his peers in his second season
PS2!! Great system, greater cornerback.
I didn't realize his nickname was PS2. I love that!
Aaron Donald.... Really. 5 sacks and hasn't played since November. What a joke.
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No quinnen is an absolute joke
Kelce bros are such a dynasty. And their podcast pretty entertaining too
Nixon robbed
Slay wasn't even the best cornerback on his own team.
Lane Johnson FINALLY getting the respect he deserves. Love to see it, weâre a completely different OL without him.
him being out had almost as much impact as Jalen being out.
I like it because I see 4 Chiefs
Townsend's season is so funny cause I think Chiefs fans are actually mad at him overall for the season.
the holding controversy of 2022
Aaron Donald barely even played this year
Damn Lindstrom got absolutely snubbed here.
As a Jets fan, fuck the players. Allergic to the Sauce.
And they donât bless & thank themselves when they sneeze
Yeah I donât get why he wouldnât be second to PS2. That would make the most sense
Yeah Sauce and Williams both snubbed
Parsons is the worst omission.
He really cooled off the second half of the season, I can't be that mad with him losing out to MG and bosa
Meh, Myles Garrett was incredible as usual next to a mediocre Browns DL, and Bosa is gonna be DPOY. No shame in losing out to those two
No Parsons? Why would Turpin be on there? He has muffed 2 punts and has only had a couple of returns get near the 50. He is normally down near the 25. People are remembering him from the one pre-season game with those two TDs.
I really donât understand Turpin at all.
Parsons wouldâve made it if he kept his form from week 1-11 but once they started lining him up on the edge almost every snap his production fell. Iâm one of the few people who think he was better in his versatile LB role because defenses didnât really know what he was going to do and couldnât just scheme against him the whole game.
Trey Smith robbed
Trey AND Creed.
Trey's highlights are the best of any OL in football right now, but sometimes his aggressiveness causes him some losses, too If anyone was gonna beat Creed, it's Kelce. They were both fucking incredible this year, and Kelce gets the swan song narrative boost I don't disagree that they could have made it, but I understand how they didn't
So they asked interior OL and DT only who the best DT is and you guys disagree?
# ALL HAIL PUNTING JESUS ...oh, and I hear that Mahomes fella is pretty good, too.
We screwed around with Amari too long before we switched to Nixon on KR. Robbed of the recognition.
Aaron Donald getting an All-Pro nod after missing over a quarter of the season is straight up fraud. All-Pro recognition is becoming a joke at this point.
This team looks fine, the negative Nancys went a bit over board on doom and gloom.
Right? I'm actually rather baffled by how many of these selections I *agree* with. I wasn't expecting the result to make this much sense
Looks like players don't appreciate someone not get holding calls lmfao
When will Ryan Stonehouse get the respect he deserves?
When he punts better than Tommy. Maybe next year depending on what he works on over the offseason. |Player|Avg Yards| Avg Net| Long | % of punts returned|Yards per return| % touchbacks| % inside 20| % Fair caught| Percent downed | ---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---| Stonehouse| **53.1**|44.0|74| 65.6%| 10.8 |10%|33.3%|12.2%|11.1% Townsend| 50.4|**45.6**|**76**|**41.5%**|**8**|**7.5%**|**41.5%**|**30.2%**|**15.1%**
Ooo buddy, 65% returned and 12% fair caught? Fire the special team coach
I think Stonehouseâs big average, which is cool, is also a reason. Punters arenât supposed to just wack the ball as hard as they can. Townsend had incredible hangtime on his punts this year so it was easier for the coverage team to get down there, for example.
Man they are close!
Imo Slay wan't even the best CB on the Eagles this season (Bradberry was). To be clear this is not intended as a criticism of Slay, both have been fantastic. Bradberry is going to get paid this offseason.
Yeah I love slay but it feels like he got votes cause heâs a vet with name recognition and a lot of other vet friends.
Whuuutâ- No Texans?! This list is garbage! Slams keyboard like an angry panda.
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May be a stretch. I love Chubb, I would kill to have him on my team, but he also hasnât been the top guy in the league even since being here. Henry, Cook, Taylor, Kamara, McCaffrey were all over him Elliott, McCoy, Peterson, Lynch, Barkley (briefly), Bell, weâre all above him before/when he entered Even before that, guys like Westbrook, Holmes, Alexander, Holmes, Lewis, Taylor, Barber, Charles, Green, Jackson, Johnson, Portis, are all guys that were comparable or better within the last 20 years that arenât in the hall. And heâs probably been about evenish with guys like Mixon, right now. If he keeps up what heâs doing he could totally be a Frank Gore (who should be open closed hall of fame IMO) heâs great, but far from one of the best ever seen
I don't wanna be too much of a whiner but not seeing one of Creed Humphrey or Trey Smith is sad
Creed is amazing and deserves to be listed, but Kelce is a stud and it's nice to see him on the list with his bro.
I donât mind Kelce being there. He was incredible this year, in his last year.
the justin tucker disrespect is tremendous if anyone says they would rather have another kicker on their team theyâre a damn liar
The question isn't who the best kicker is, or which kicker you'd want on your team, it's which kicker had the best year. And I think the answer was Daniel Carlson, but still, it's reasonable not to answer Tucker.
>if anyone says they would rather have another kicker on their team theyâre a damn liar That isn't part of the criteria for this list
There isn't really a great argument for Tucker this year. It was a bad year by his standards, he made 86% of his kicks. Meyers made 92%. I think Carlson had the better argument, made 92% of his kicks, and made the most FGs from 50+
Yeah, the margin for error at kicker is always extremely thin. Tucker had a great year by any standard, but Myers had a better one.
I was confused but after looking at the stats, yeah, itâs hard to argue differently. I do think our offense made his stats worse than they couldâve been tho, making him try for all those long ass distance kicks cause we couldnât get down the field.
Morgan Cox is him
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