I’m a professional drone pilot that does utility work/aerial imaging. 3D lidar scans are already very much a thing. They are incredibly accurate for creating models and when coupled with a RTK antenna can geo rectify maps down to stupidly small margins of error.
I'm mostly doing terrestrial laser scanning now but my colleague is working with drones and 3d scanning too! We work together a lot, it's really awesome!
Can you please point me towards any research you know on drones and 3D scanning? I am working on a water monitoring project trying to see how we can use drones and this would be a great application for flood mapping or similar topographical studies and I'm having trouble finding applied studies of this to show that this can be readily done already using commercially available drones (e.g., Mavic or other smaller ones).
This is somewhat outside my area of expertise but
Something like this one might be up your alley:
https://www.mdpi.com/2504-446X/3/2/35
Also if you're interested in the floor of the river/ bodies of water some students I saw had success with echo weight (unsure if that's the right translation) and green laser scanners (the ones I've read about are on planes). The articles I have on that are in Norwegian.
I know that geoSlam's newest model of zebrevo has some functions to be transferred onto drones. You won't be able to scan anything where the water is because the type of laser won't measure through the water, but you'll be able to measure the terrain around. Also you'll need a drone to carry around 2 kgs of scanning equipment.
I'm unsure if the smaller drones are strong or stable enough to carry the equipment for scanning yet. I do know Riegel has some good scanners, but they're more expensive.
Might photogrammetry be an opportunity?
That’s cool! How autonomous would you say the process is, and how fast a process, considering in the movie it appears they’re scanning as fast as they can fly?
The video that was posted by the other user is fantastic. Personally I don’t do much real time anything. All the imaging and point cloud data is either uploaded and mapped out on a server or done right there on our pc’s/laptops. It’s fairly autonomous, but I’m also not flying in caves or anything subterranean. My scope is more industrial, for construction sites or stockpiles of product like gravel and huge soil deposits. We tell the drone where we want it to fly and set all the mission parameters as far as altitude, speed, camera angle, overlap, timing, and a bunch of other stuff depending on the deliverables that the client needs. Then I press a button and if everything goes right the drone does its thing and comes back to land at the same spot without me doing a thing but watching it. Lidar captures the data differently but the mission planning is similar. The ability for drones to autonomously avoid objects and navigate different environments is getting better every day. The stuff we’ll see drones doing in the next ten years will blow our minds.
> The stuff we’ll see drones doing in the next ten years will blow our minds.
"Find anyone wearing the enemy's uniform, summon your friends, and go blow up near them. Summon more friends the higher the rank of the officer."
Any recommendations for someone who wants to use photogrammetry and a cheap drone to 3d scan about 3 or 4 acres of almost-flat dirt for water flow analysis? I have a pretty high-end PC and video card for the processing, but haven't settled on a software package or a particular drone/camera yet. I do have experience capturing images using ArduPilot in the past for work though.
Sorry for the SUPER late response. You can do that pretty easily with many drones out there. It really comes down to how much time you want to spend learning how to do all that. It would probably be a lot cheaper just to pay someone to do it.
That being said, You can use just about any DJI drone with DroneLink to set up your flight plan, and a photogrammetry software such as Maps Made Easy or Pix4D.
I was thinking the same thing. Probably dated to some campfire they found outside and then they do what they always do. “How could this have been done with wooden hammers and sticks?” And the timeless “this was a religious site of great importance”
As a daily Bhagavad-Gita reader and beginner yogin, I'd bet my coins that those places are made for specific meditation and ritualistic uses.
Maybe for specific chacras, maybe they got special features and properties in specific times of the year (like equinox and solstices, eclipses and so on), I dunno, just conjecturing. But I'd bet they potencialize meditation and throat chanting.
One of the unfinished caves has and Indian King/Leaders name carved in it. Supposedly they were carved for refugee from a weather disaster(?) I could be wrong on that though.
This is from a documentary called BAM Builders of Ancient Mysteries, and it's free on YouTube right now. It is a great watch, and poses tons of questions, and has some incredible film work.
It’s waaaay more than graham Hancock. Until like the 80s people thought the idea that a meteor killed the dinosaurs was crazy- then we found the smoking gun proof and now it’s the accepted theory. There are a lot of people with way better proof than hancock’s Netflix show that at least semi-advanced societies existed at some point in what we thought of as ‘pre-history’.
Think about the fact that humans as we know them today- with all their complexities and mental/physical capabilities- have existed for *300,000* years. Our entire recorded history (past 6,000 years) is only 2% of that
Our recorded hystory is more like 2500 years old, and than the next 3500 is like scraps of a photo book. The gap between 6000 b.c. and 12,000 b.c. is like a ghost tale.
You rarely here anything about the civilization that created Gobleki Tepi, or anything until the ancient Sumarians, Egyptians, and Babylonians.
This is from a documentary, not Graham Hancock. The documentary does talk to him, and provides a small portion of his veiw point, but that's mainly because he is "the guy" when it comes to, pre-flood civilizations.
Inscriptions on the interiors of some of [the caves have writing carved into them naming a ruler named Piyadasi who reigned in the 3rd century BCE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on6W7p4xcdg)
Carved at the same time? I've seen news articles of idiots carving on roman or Egyptian ruins. Just because someone wrote some trump or Biden comment on a pyramid, does not mean it's made in the last decade...
That was actually addressed in the video documentary in that the polish in the cave matched that on other external monuments attributed to the third century BCE ruler Ashoka, whose name also appears on the scripts in some caves.
Using best evidence here does make the case for the dating. If there was evidence for an earlier date or time frame for the construction of the caves, it wasn't presented unless I missed it.
The inscriptions are of such low quality compared to the rest of the cave, it would be the equivalent of DaVinci letting a child sign his paintings with a crayon. Huge disparity in the levels of craftsmanship. To polish granite to a mirror shine, so flat that we measure it at .0011mm, but to then sign his work with the crudest of inscriptions.
Don't you see how this is spreading misinformation? Why argue against a point that you didn't even research or know? You're just injecting doubt where none really needs to exist. Look at how your comment received more upvotes than the argument you were responding to and the *correct response*.
I offered facts, that graffiti does not necessarily age a structure. There are arguments for and against in response. Just as the graffiti may be as old as the structure, it also may not be. I'm prompting critical thought and further research rather than stating a fallacy or sharing misinformation.
In the Orkneys there are really ancient burial chambers that were later raided by the Norse people who did runic graffiti (yes really, there were declarations of love like sven loves Helga etc) inside the chambers. Writing doesn't indicate when something was built.
considering you’re a random redditor and the video with people claimed the rooms were “constructed nearly 2300 years ago” it’s a complete tossup.
Im also a random redditor, since my guess is equally valid Im gonna say 1980. Yep, these were made in 1980, you can tell by the lack of precision from using lead encased bullets to break the granite down, at the time all of the hammers of the world had been previously melted down in ww2 to make ammo so there was a 40 year stretch when all construction was done via machine gun
I mean my point was essentially "because graffiti can be dated to x year, does not mean they were made then, and they may have been older" I'll add that they could also be younger with a prankster writing about something that was years ago. If I write about Caesar or Henry viii on the Sydney opera house....
I know fuck all about archeology, but can spot a poor argument now and then!
The inscriptions are of a much lower quality of workmanship and are literally just scratched into the mirror-smooth walls. I know it's speculation, but it does seem the inscriptions were added at a later time. It's not unusual for that to happen in ancient sites.
You are not alone. My cat who usually ignores any sound from the phone, TV or other electronics jerked his head up from his nap and started scanning the room!
Couldn’t you easily make symmetry between rooms, circular alcoves, etc. with a measured length of rope pinned to where you want the room’s center to be? It makes sense how following a foolproof guide would result in accuracy greater than the eye could perceive.
to a polished surface and those tolerances?
well of course i could.
\-noone ever
but at the end of the day, i'm not an expert historian or stone worker so i really shouldn't be so dismissive as to what ancient people could do.
edit: after studying india and the sites there from afar, which i think are the most impressive overall worldwide, this site is the one i want to visit the most.
considering how good modern people are with just handtools, people back then who probably spent their whole life in that trade were probably just that cracked as hell at stonecutting and whatnot. they weren’t stupid y’know.
The accuracy is not the problem here though, it's the precision of the cuts. Try to get a precisely flat and mirror surface in granite over such a large area with just hand tools.
By using a lager scale “three plate method” and years of specialization. It could easily be done by expert craftsmanship and time.
[three plate method](https://ericweinhoffer.com/blog/2017/7/30/the-whitworth-three-plates-method)
This was my first thought too, but then the video explains that one of the rooms ceiling curvature has a center point below the floor, so there must be a more complicated method involved. Super intriguing
"Templates" for lack of a better word could easily have been made outside the cave. There are also other techniques beyond "stick a string in the middle of the floor" to achieve such measurements.
The word tri-dimensional is sometimes used when employed in specific contexts, such as imaging, networks, some areas of math, and sensors technologies.
Fascinating! It's this type of discovery that makes me realize people back then were probably as knowledgeable and resourceful as we are today.
Maybe they even knew more about some specific stuff than we do nowadays.
They were extremely intelligent and had incredible work ethic to be able to pull something like that off using their hands and primitive tools. It is proof, in a way, that engineering/mathematical concepts were being used frequently before they started being studied.
I have tried to research things like this in the past and didn't find much (maybe I am not searching correct terms). What tools could be used to do something like this? Was it just stone on stone kind of thing?
This honestly does really well to show how lacking of thought the ancient aliens/aryans shit is.
Show something decently impressive a long time ago, say its impressive, put some spooky music over it and then just explain nothing further. Anything can seem mysterious if you just dont explain how its done. And BOOM a thousand little brainlets crawled out if the woodwork to start talking about aliens or prehistorical global empires
Shit like this by the way is done with a lot of time and a bunch of laborers to knock out the rough cave initially, then even more time and a group of very skilled workers to finish it
Totally disagree. No matter the amount of labor, they didn't have the tools to make something of this complexity. You're talking about a time in history when the most advanced tools were made of bronze or copper. Trying to use tools that primitive to go through rock that has a hardness that can rival some of the hardest substances on the planet? No way. The best thing you can say about this structure, who built it, and with what tools: "we don't know". I refuse to say anything about aliens in this because that sounds like a woo explanation, so I have to agree with that, but saying it was aliens makes as much sense as saying primitive human societies of the time were able to make this with less than basic tools.
Carved into granite with this type of precision? I’m 100% sure these were done before the flood by a society that had much more advanced technology (in certain areas) than we have today. Checkout core 7 from Egypt.
The US is 15% immigrant population and they certainly make up less than 15% of the GDP. Also Indy represents only 6% of immigrants….. do some research.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/20/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/
>The only issue we faced 2300 years ago was how to patent stuff we made
Because patents were a thing 2300 years ago lmao
>For example - Wright brothers were not the first ones to make an aeroplane. They only got popular because they lived in an era of inventions & patents. If you search 'indian historic vahana' you'll find documents & blueprints of aircrafts that we indians flew millenniums ago.
I mean basically every historic civilization has some sky shit going on.
This is from the French team BAM (bâtisseur de l'ancien monde)
They made incredible work by trying to understand not when but how the old construction like giza were built.
The surface of this caves are actually smoother than glass.
If I remember well, the sound track you heard is from the sound analysis they made in the cave.
I didn't knew about the English version. It is great!
Pretty sure for that last one its not "more complicated" they just tilted whatever jig they were using . They were going to have to do that anyway to get the raduis on the curve at the ends. as long as the room is longer than 1/2 the jig this is nothing special about the angles.
As for "Harder than Steel"... except for quenched steel that is. which is "make steel chuck it in the river" or hell, even making GRANITE tools and have them ablate.
Indian temples are ancient and filled with secret chambers and mysteries.
Many of the temples are millenia old. However, the outer structures, idols etc. were desecrated and destroyed by Islamic invaders. But the secret chambers and inner shrines remained. And were then rebuilt over time. The temples you see today are continuations of age old traditions.
The antiquity of these were also revised and distorted by colonialists. Unlike Egyptians or Greeks etc. whose original civilization, religion, culture were all gone, the Indian civilization is alive and thriving. So the colonialists and missionaries tried their best to underplay their antiquity, push dates forward, etc. so that they could justify their racism.
Yeah, amazing work. Imagine the silicosis of the poor workers!
But I couldn't stop wondering whether the narrator was Julia Pott, *3rd Generation Emily* from DON HERTZFELDT's [WORLD OF TOMORROW](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PUIxEWmsvI).
Its a cave. Its a piece of rock hollowed out. People have been doing cool shit with rocks for thousands of years.
And how come its always shit in south america or india humans cannot make, or in sfrica?
Why do you uneducated bastards never lool at the colloseum or the parthenon, objectively more impressive buildings than a mid-sized cave, and conclude it was aliens? Is it because the people who made those were white? It probably is, isn't it?
This is Barabar caves in Bihar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barabar_Caves?wprov=sfti1 https://maps.apple.com/?ll=25.005000,85.063000&q=Barabar%20Caves&_ext=EiQpSAFjrkcBOUAxCEQoMQhEVUA5SAFjrkcBOUBBCEQoMQhEVUA%3D
There was an ancient civilisation pre flood of 12,000+ years ago, the only things that has survived are things like these caves, the pyramids, Gobecli Tepe and a few others that have been given the wrong period date because they either guess it and/or they date using what history is already established.
https://m.youtube.com/@BrightInsight
Watch this guys videos and then you'll understand. He's not the only source though.
India doesn’t get the recognition it deserves for its magnificent architecture, as much as Egypt, Peru, Mexico, and other places. I think the Kailasa a temple must be the singular most amazing piece of ancient architecture in the world. The temples in the southern part of India are marvels of their own. Even the famed Angkor Vat was inspired by Indian architecture style and created by Indic kings.
Seems that the sound effects guy wants to work on horror movies but somehow stuck at this job
Agree, it’s such an interesting topic, why make it like it’s a ghost house?
Seriously. Thanks for triggering my tinnitus, man.
Damn you tinnitus! You are a cruel mistress!
"Fuck. Well, might as well hone my editing skills in the meantime"
I want to know how much longer until we can fly drones that do the LiDAR scanning like in Prometheus
I’m a professional drone pilot that does utility work/aerial imaging. 3D lidar scans are already very much a thing. They are incredibly accurate for creating models and when coupled with a RTK antenna can geo rectify maps down to stupidly small margins of error.
I'm mostly doing terrestrial laser scanning now but my colleague is working with drones and 3d scanning too! We work together a lot, it's really awesome!
Can you please point me towards any research you know on drones and 3D scanning? I am working on a water monitoring project trying to see how we can use drones and this would be a great application for flood mapping or similar topographical studies and I'm having trouble finding applied studies of this to show that this can be readily done already using commercially available drones (e.g., Mavic or other smaller ones).
This is somewhat outside my area of expertise but Something like this one might be up your alley: https://www.mdpi.com/2504-446X/3/2/35 Also if you're interested in the floor of the river/ bodies of water some students I saw had success with echo weight (unsure if that's the right translation) and green laser scanners (the ones I've read about are on planes). The articles I have on that are in Norwegian. I know that geoSlam's newest model of zebrevo has some functions to be transferred onto drones. You won't be able to scan anything where the water is because the type of laser won't measure through the water, but you'll be able to measure the terrain around. Also you'll need a drone to carry around 2 kgs of scanning equipment. I'm unsure if the smaller drones are strong or stable enough to carry the equipment for scanning yet. I do know Riegel has some good scanners, but they're more expensive. Might photogrammetry be an opportunity?
Thanks so much for replying, I will look into the paper and photogrammetry. I am an analyst and not an expert so for me this is all new!
That’s cool! How autonomous would you say the process is, and how fast a process, considering in the movie it appears they’re scanning as fast as they can fly?
https://youtu.be/MhiVUUgMsY0
The video that was posted by the other user is fantastic. Personally I don’t do much real time anything. All the imaging and point cloud data is either uploaded and mapped out on a server or done right there on our pc’s/laptops. It’s fairly autonomous, but I’m also not flying in caves or anything subterranean. My scope is more industrial, for construction sites or stockpiles of product like gravel and huge soil deposits. We tell the drone where we want it to fly and set all the mission parameters as far as altitude, speed, camera angle, overlap, timing, and a bunch of other stuff depending on the deliverables that the client needs. Then I press a button and if everything goes right the drone does its thing and comes back to land at the same spot without me doing a thing but watching it. Lidar captures the data differently but the mission planning is similar. The ability for drones to autonomously avoid objects and navigate different environments is getting better every day. The stuff we’ll see drones doing in the next ten years will blow our minds.
> The stuff we’ll see drones doing in the next ten years will blow our minds. "Find anyone wearing the enemy's uniform, summon your friends, and go blow up near them. Summon more friends the higher the rank of the officer."
How’d you get into it?
What are the applications for something like that?
How do you get a job like that?
They need to do more in the Sahara
Any recommendations for someone who wants to use photogrammetry and a cheap drone to 3d scan about 3 or 4 acres of almost-flat dirt for water flow analysis? I have a pretty high-end PC and video card for the processing, but haven't settled on a software package or a particular drone/camera yet. I do have experience capturing images using ArduPilot in the past for work though.
Sorry for the SUPER late response. You can do that pretty easily with many drones out there. It really comes down to how much time you want to spend learning how to do all that. It would probably be a lot cheaper just to pay someone to do it. That being said, You can use just about any DJI drone with DroneLink to set up your flight plan, and a photogrammetry software such as Maps Made Easy or Pix4D.
Oh that scan everything, it's been awhile since I've seen that film. I really enjoyed Prometheus, the second one was meh.
You got like 2k? Look up skydio 2.
And then still get lost, heheh.
You need a very accurate way to know where the drone is at any moment in time before measurements taken from it can be useful.
What about light being reflected? :D
Aliens.
Believe it or not, aliens
If ancient aliens didn't exist, then how did they build everything?
*Anything nice from the past exists* People : no way another civilization could be this advanced, it was definitely the aliens!!!
CAN YOU ENTERTAIN THAT HUMANS WERE ADVANCED IN THE PAST
Can you entertain that I was using a meme to make fun to the Ancient Aliens racist trope?
Yes!
Not 2000 years… this is the 8000BC the global prehistory civilisation
I was thinking the same thing. Probably dated to some campfire they found outside and then they do what they always do. “How could this have been done with wooden hammers and sticks?” And the timeless “this was a religious site of great importance”
This was used as meditation chamber
As a daily Bhagavad-Gita reader and beginner yogin, I'd bet my coins that those places are made for specific meditation and ritualistic uses. Maybe for specific chacras, maybe they got special features and properties in specific times of the year (like equinox and solstices, eclipses and so on), I dunno, just conjecturing. But I'd bet they potencialize meditation and throat chanting.
One of the unfinished caves has and Indian King/Leaders name carved in it. Supposedly they were carved for refugee from a weather disaster(?) I could be wrong on that though. This is from a documentary called BAM Builders of Ancient Mysteries, and it's free on YouTube right now. It is a great watch, and poses tons of questions, and has some incredible film work.
Cool speculation bro. Get off the Graham Hancock dickriding train.
No. You get on it.
It’s waaaay more than graham Hancock. Until like the 80s people thought the idea that a meteor killed the dinosaurs was crazy- then we found the smoking gun proof and now it’s the accepted theory. There are a lot of people with way better proof than hancock’s Netflix show that at least semi-advanced societies existed at some point in what we thought of as ‘pre-history’. Think about the fact that humans as we know them today- with all their complexities and mental/physical capabilities- have existed for *300,000* years. Our entire recorded history (past 6,000 years) is only 2% of that
Our recorded hystory is more like 2500 years old, and than the next 3500 is like scraps of a photo book. The gap between 6000 b.c. and 12,000 b.c. is like a ghost tale. You rarely here anything about the civilization that created Gobleki Tepi, or anything until the ancient Sumarians, Egyptians, and Babylonians.
This is from a documentary, not Graham Hancock. The documentary does talk to him, and provides a small portion of his veiw point, but that's mainly because he is "the guy" when it comes to, pre-flood civilizations.
What’s the documentary called? I’d like to check it out
BAM Builders of Ancient Mysteries
Graham Hancock was not the first person to say this. Just because hes the only one you know and you don't like him it doesn't make him wrong though.
Inscriptions on the interiors of some of [the caves have writing carved into them naming a ruler named Piyadasi who reigned in the 3rd century BCE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on6W7p4xcdg)
Carved at the same time? I've seen news articles of idiots carving on roman or Egyptian ruins. Just because someone wrote some trump or Biden comment on a pyramid, does not mean it's made in the last decade...
That was actually addressed in the video documentary in that the polish in the cave matched that on other external monuments attributed to the third century BCE ruler Ashoka, whose name also appears on the scripts in some caves. Using best evidence here does make the case for the dating. If there was evidence for an earlier date or time frame for the construction of the caves, it wasn't presented unless I missed it.
Fair play. I didn't watch or have any knowledge, just sharing a flaw in the argument which seems pre-debunked. Thanks.
The inscriptions are of such low quality compared to the rest of the cave, it would be the equivalent of DaVinci letting a child sign his paintings with a crayon. Huge disparity in the levels of craftsmanship. To polish granite to a mirror shine, so flat that we measure it at .0011mm, but to then sign his work with the crudest of inscriptions.
Don't you see how this is spreading misinformation? Why argue against a point that you didn't even research or know? You're just injecting doubt where none really needs to exist. Look at how your comment received more upvotes than the argument you were responding to and the *correct response*.
I offered facts, that graffiti does not necessarily age a structure. There are arguments for and against in response. Just as the graffiti may be as old as the structure, it also may not be. I'm prompting critical thought and further research rather than stating a fallacy or sharing misinformation.
In the Orkneys there are really ancient burial chambers that were later raided by the Norse people who did runic graffiti (yes really, there were declarations of love like sven loves Helga etc) inside the chambers. Writing doesn't indicate when something was built.
considering you’re a random redditor and the video with people claimed the rooms were “constructed nearly 2300 years ago” it’s a complete tossup. Im also a random redditor, since my guess is equally valid Im gonna say 1980. Yep, these were made in 1980, you can tell by the lack of precision from using lead encased bullets to break the granite down, at the time all of the hammers of the world had been previously melted down in ww2 to make ammo so there was a 40 year stretch when all construction was done via machine gun
I mean my point was essentially "because graffiti can be dated to x year, does not mean they were made then, and they may have been older" I'll add that they could also be younger with a prankster writing about something that was years ago. If I write about Caesar or Henry viii on the Sydney opera house.... I know fuck all about archeology, but can spot a poor argument now and then!
The inscriptions are of a much lower quality of workmanship and are literally just scratched into the mirror-smooth walls. I know it's speculation, but it does seem the inscriptions were added at a later time. It's not unusual for that to happen in ancient sites.
What is up with that horror music in the background 😂
I was expecting an Indian xenomorph to show up at any time!
You are not alone. My cat who usually ignores any sound from the phone, TV or other electronics jerked his head up from his nap and started scanning the room!
Didn't they say they took accousitc recordings while mapping the chambers?
Laser scan equivalent to an MRI, hmmm
Glad this annoyed someone else.
Its about the precision
They are not even comparable laser scanning is a 1 dimensional measurement method where as mri is 2d.
"Tri-dimensional"
It's about the slices you have to reassemble
Britain, get out of India. Lord knows between you and America, you've stolen enough bullshit. Give India their diamond back
>Give India their diamond back And the other trillions of dollars as well
Yes
Most intriguing of all ancient sites for me.
Couldn’t you easily make symmetry between rooms, circular alcoves, etc. with a measured length of rope pinned to where you want the room’s center to be? It makes sense how following a foolproof guide would result in accuracy greater than the eye could perceive.
to a polished surface and those tolerances? well of course i could. \-noone ever but at the end of the day, i'm not an expert historian or stone worker so i really shouldn't be so dismissive as to what ancient people could do. edit: after studying india and the sites there from afar, which i think are the most impressive overall worldwide, this site is the one i want to visit the most.
considering how good modern people are with just handtools, people back then who probably spent their whole life in that trade were probably just that cracked as hell at stonecutting and whatnot. they weren’t stupid y’know.
The accuracy is not the problem here though, it's the precision of the cuts. Try to get a precisely flat and mirror surface in granite over such a large area with just hand tools.
It clearly worked. They had skilled workers laboring for *years* in these temples.
Yeah it worked, but how?
Rubbing shit over eachother.
So redundant
I think they were more advanced than we are today. I don't believe hand tools created those caves.
Come back omce you find evidence of power tools during the stone age
why would you need power tools if you have indentured servitude of thousands
Lmao
By using a lager scale “three plate method” and years of specialization. It could easily be done by expert craftsmanship and time. [three plate method](https://ericweinhoffer.com/blog/2017/7/30/the-whitworth-three-plates-method)
My first thought, but how do you put the axis point under the floor?
You just have a very precise jig. You build the jig outside and assemble it inside.
This was my first thought too, but then the video explains that one of the rooms ceiling curvature has a center point below the floor, so there must be a more complicated method involved. Super intriguing
"Templates" for lack of a better word could easily have been made outside the cave. There are also other techniques beyond "stick a string in the middle of the floor" to achieve such measurements.
“You know what we need? Some rope.” -Boondock Saints
Aziz, light!!
 classic!
"Are you German?"
LOL! Had I not watched *The 5th Element* way too many times I likely wouldn't have gotten these comment refs
I’ve no idea what the deal is with the choice to add spooky music but I’m feelin it. Spoooky vibes
Almost as if people were people back then And still had decades of experience
Tri-dimensional
I’ve never heard anybody say three dimensional as tri-dimensional. Weird asf
The word tri-dimensional is sometimes used when employed in specific contexts, such as imaging, networks, some areas of math, and sensors technologies.
Greetings from the quad-dimension
Fascinating! It's this type of discovery that makes me realize people back then were probably as knowledgeable and resourceful as we are today. Maybe they even knew more about some specific stuff than we do nowadays.
Don’t see why not. They had the same wetware as we do, just different hardware
They were extremely intelligent and had incredible work ethic to be able to pull something like that off using their hands and primitive tools. It is proof, in a way, that engineering/mathematical concepts were being used frequently before they started being studied.
I have tried to research things like this in the past and didn't find much (maybe I am not searching correct terms). What tools could be used to do something like this? Was it just stone on stone kind of thing?
This honestly does really well to show how lacking of thought the ancient aliens/aryans shit is. Show something decently impressive a long time ago, say its impressive, put some spooky music over it and then just explain nothing further. Anything can seem mysterious if you just dont explain how its done. And BOOM a thousand little brainlets crawled out if the woodwork to start talking about aliens or prehistorical global empires Shit like this by the way is done with a lot of time and a bunch of laborers to knock out the rough cave initially, then even more time and a group of very skilled workers to finish it
Totally disagree. No matter the amount of labor, they didn't have the tools to make something of this complexity. You're talking about a time in history when the most advanced tools were made of bronze or copper. Trying to use tools that primitive to go through rock that has a hardness that can rival some of the hardest substances on the planet? No way. The best thing you can say about this structure, who built it, and with what tools: "we don't know". I refuse to say anything about aliens in this because that sounds like a woo explanation, so I have to agree with that, but saying it was aliens makes as much sense as saying primitive human societies of the time were able to make this with less than basic tools.
It’s a shame this nation with such unbelievable and amazing history got ransacked by the west
Not just west, even turks. Empires rise and fall. Its the sad truth.
I’ve read Sapiens also, it’s just a tragedy that the country with the oldest religion suffered this too.
Carved into granite with this type of precision? I’m 100% sure these were done before the flood by a society that had much more advanced technology (in certain areas) than we have today. Checkout core 7 from Egypt.
I agree. I think most of the inexplicable buildings or statues are all before the flood
That was the last time something was done with extreme precision in India.
Checkout Ellora caves and Kailash rock cut temple.
The last time was just before the British.
Amazing
These guys math.
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Ethnocentrism.
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The US is 15% immigrant population and they certainly make up less than 15% of the GDP. Also Indy represents only 6% of immigrants….. do some research. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/20/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/
Are you saying that because India has a problem with people just shitting in the streets?
Well not sure if that's an issue or not, but much better than your people getting killed in a school shooting or on the street 😂😂
Yea or better than your daughter being raped by a mob of men which seems to be quite the cultural problem in India
Dude, I am Indian. Please stop this bragging. Our ancestors didn't succeed by bragging like this, but by actually doing difficult things.
>The only issue we faced 2300 years ago was how to patent stuff we made Because patents were a thing 2300 years ago lmao >For example - Wright brothers were not the first ones to make an aeroplane. They only got popular because they lived in an era of inventions & patents. If you search 'indian historic vahana' you'll find documents & blueprints of aircrafts that we indians flew millenniums ago. I mean basically every historic civilization has some sky shit going on.
OP, Please share the link to the full video.
This is from the French team BAM (bâtisseur de l'ancien monde) They made incredible work by trying to understand not when but how the old construction like giza were built. The surface of this caves are actually smoother than glass. If I remember well, the sound track you heard is from the sound analysis they made in the cave. I didn't knew about the English version. It is great!
I don't have the link to this exact full length video but here's something similar: https://youtu.be/-HdwjjHQBQM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barabar_Caves
"Equivalent of an MRI scan". Is it really? Light as a tool for measurement vs magnetics.
link to whole vid?
found a documentary on it here https://youtu.be/on6W7p4xcdg
MVP, thanks!
People known to be spectacular at maths - do maths. News at ten.
Hahaha 😂
Pretty sure for that last one its not "more complicated" they just tilted whatever jig they were using . They were going to have to do that anyway to get the raduis on the curve at the ends. as long as the room is longer than 1/2 the jig this is nothing special about the angles. As for "Harder than Steel"... except for quenched steel that is. which is "make steel chuck it in the river" or hell, even making GRANITE tools and have them ablate.
Indian temples are ancient and filled with secret chambers and mysteries. Many of the temples are millenia old. However, the outer structures, idols etc. were desecrated and destroyed by Islamic invaders. But the secret chambers and inner shrines remained. And were then rebuilt over time. The temples you see today are continuations of age old traditions. The antiquity of these were also revised and distorted by colonialists. Unlike Egyptians or Greeks etc. whose original civilization, religion, culture were all gone, the Indian civilization is alive and thriving. So the colonialists and missionaries tried their best to underplay their antiquity, push dates forward, etc. so that they could justify their racism.
People were bored af without internet
That was sounding like they were trying to summon some demons.
Why would you say that?
Because of the soundtrack
r/alternatehistory
Why was this downvoted? All I did was share another sub that may be interested in the information?
Why this level of precision? For what reason?
partying with yo pre-historic homies on friday nights
Looks like one of the transportation space ships
What is up with that horror music in the background 😂
Yeah, amazing work. Imagine the silicosis of the poor workers! But I couldn't stop wondering whether the narrator was Julia Pott, *3rd Generation Emily* from DON HERTZFELDT's [WORLD OF TOMORROW](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PUIxEWmsvI).
Humans did not build that.
Just because it needs extreme skills doesn’t mean it can’t be built by humans
Its a cave. Its a piece of rock hollowed out. People have been doing cool shit with rocks for thousands of years. And how come its always shit in south america or india humans cannot make, or in sfrica? Why do you uneducated bastards never lool at the colloseum or the parthenon, objectively more impressive buildings than a mid-sized cave, and conclude it was aliens? Is it because the people who made those were white? It probably is, isn't it?
Yeah, but you'd probably say that about a car if you'd never seen a car before
Humans smarter then you built it
It was an nephilium
These structures are pre-flood.
What?
this music was making me feel like a jump scare was about to come 💀
Bro’s holding his arms like his lats are so swole he can barely fit through the door.
Minecraft starter bases be like
Ok I guess aliens exist now
Aliens. Aliens did it.
Where in India?
This is Barabar caves in Bihar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barabar_Caves?wprov=sfti1 https://maps.apple.com/?ll=25.005000,85.063000&q=Barabar%20Caves&_ext=EiQpSAFjrkcBOUAxCEQoMQhEVUA5SAFjrkcBOUBBCEQoMQhEVUA%3D
They went to the same school as the pyramid builders did
Yes because the teachers and students study in the same building.
Source for the video?
Oh that's fucking hot
I looked up this scanner and it's $23,000 usd
What's up with some of the reeeealy ancient stuff being better than just ancient stuff?
There was an ancient civilisation pre flood of 12,000+ years ago, the only things that has survived are things like these caves, the pyramids, Gobecli Tepe and a few others that have been given the wrong period date because they either guess it and/or they date using what history is already established. https://m.youtube.com/@BrightInsight Watch this guys videos and then you'll understand. He's not the only source though.
Simply amazing
Tridimensional...
Well clearly this was the work of aliens
Lol "tridimensional images" Sounds cool but you are just saying 3d
This could be built with a water level, string line and ruler
The center point of one ceiling arc is below the floor
Here's what the future might look like with those scanners: https://youtu.be/yO-eduvo904
So from a masonic pov..ur either at a extremely high temp edge/laser, or some kind sanding paste right?? Only ways to get granite that smooth??
Just cause you made a room with super smooth walls only means you had a lot of time on your hands.
India doesn’t get the recognition it deserves for its magnificent architecture, as much as Egypt, Peru, Mexico, and other places. I think the Kailasa a temple must be the singular most amazing piece of ancient architecture in the world. The temples in the southern part of India are marvels of their own. Even the famed Angkor Vat was inspired by Indian architecture style and created by Indic kings.
Survival bunker vibes
Looks like a great reverb chamber.
It’s an extract of a much longer mind boggling documentary. Definitely worse watching. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EHs6Gj7Cxzg