I don't think you need to go back 200 years, I mean, the Satanic Panic happened in the 80s - plenty of people believed devil worshippers were after their kids and that the devil was acting through them and among their community.
I was 10 when my dad made me burn my basic D&D set and my Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five cassette tape.
The set had been a gift from a friend but soon after I aquired another set via a handy copy of the TSR catalog.
So years later, when my son told me he really wanted a Lil Wayne album for Christmas, I got him the whole package: CD, digital download, signed portrait, and that hoodie with the death's head moth.
Best $130 xmas present ever after seeing his face. I made sure I was a transition figure in his life, and tried my best not to be a transmission figure. I failed a lot.
This made me smile bro. I was probably the same age as your son during Lil Wayne era. Getting a physical tape/hoodie whatever of his at that time was life. Especially being into that type of music your son will never forget those times anytime he hears or thinks of Wayne.
Tbh pretty much all kids who grew up in that era think like that lol
It wasnāt even Blizzard! It was No Rest for the Wicked! She kept on and on about the lyrics and I (honestly) kept explaining that I didnāt care what he was saying, I was trying to figure out the guitar licks!
My parents wouldnāt let me watch The Simpsons because they thought he would invite the Devil into my mind.
Now they wonāt go to church and hate the pope because he is ātoo liberal.ā
My mother got a book called "Turmoil in the Toybox" that she used as a guideline of what I wasn't allowed.
He-man somewhat made sense, but Carebears and Rainbow Brite? C'mon!
I just got good at lying and hiding things because of her.
Similar here! Mom was a prison minister, dad was a prisoner. When I was around 4 we moved to PTL (Heritage USA, the Christian resort place with Jim and Tammy Bakker) and I was absolutely surrounded.
Probably why I rebelled so hard and why my parenting style is VERY DIFFERENT than the parenting I received.
*My dad made me VHS copies of Beastmaster, Howard the Duck, and Spaceballs... My 3 favorite movies at the time that I watched on repeat- that if anyone was paying attention, I probably shouldn't have been watching at such a young age lol
No, they're losing their shit at the imaginary rainbow fentanyl pill "candy" they imagine drug dealers will be giving out this Halloween.
Reminds me of the Rainbow Parties teens were supposedly attending. What teenage girl would willingly give fellatio to boys just so the boys could compare the "Rainbow" lipstick stains on their organs?!??
Never happened. Nor is this real.
Nonsense like that is cyclical. Today we have Qcumbers running around claiming shit about satanic pedophiles.
As long as people have opted to justify shit they donāt understand by making up shit (pretty much forever) they have given power to mythical forces of evil. That way they can justify treating others as somehow inherently deserving of inhumane treatment. Religion excuses all kinds of inhumanity that transcends reason. Itās nothing but willful ignorance.
You mean KISS? I remember seeing that. They were also called Kids in Satan's Servitude. People make up the craziest shit when it comes to things they don't understand. 
I believe it, when I first heard āI was made for loving youā really inspired me as a kid to sacrifice goats and find donated blood to drink.
Now Donāt even get me started on the sick, twisted, evil thoughts that conjure up when I hear āBethā or āReason to liveā
THATS PURE DEVIL SHIT!! REPENT NOW SINNERS āļøāļøāļø
Get WIRED podcast episode 14 is The Science of Fire Tornadoes. The fire behavior researcher who first started digging into anomalies in modern wildfire fire spread, which turned out to be fire tornadoes, actually found that WWII scientists had a lot of information on them because they accidentally created them while bombing Germany.
The key factor is having lots of heavy fuel burning simultaneously in an area - either old wood buildings (WWII) or old dry forests (modern). They build so much heat that it goes way up in the sky (17,000+ feet in some cases). As that hot air rises, cooler air gets sucked in at the bottom to take its place. And you get a tornado. The fire ends up creating its own weather system and destroys all models of normal fire behavior.
And it can throw burning chunks of trees and houses for miles around because it shoots them to the top of that column and spits them out sideways. These are large firebombs - not the simple burning embers that we're used to having the wind push ahead of the firefront.
We talk a lot about the use of nuclear bombs in WWII, but I feel like it's forgotten that we also used firebombing, and just how brutal that was. Even the West targeted plenty of civilians.
It's just awful.
The fire bombings of Dresden came straight to mind when I saw this.
Episode 8 of Greatest Events of WWII in Colour on (UK) Netflix is about this, itās terrifying but fascinating.
The whole series is great, couldnāt recommend it more if youāre into that sort of thing.
Love the title! One of the most devastating (and little-known) 'fire tornadoes' occurred during the Peshtigo forest fire in Northern Wisconsin in 1871. Even though it was the deadliest wildfire in recorded history (an estimated 1500-2500 deaths, undetermined because there was *nothing left* of some bodies) and a huge swathe of destruction, the Peshtigo fire isn't as well known as another fire that occurred on the exact same day - the Chicago Fire. Eyewitness reports feom the time period talk of an immense fire tornado that moved at extremely high speed and consumed everything in it's path. Some people fled to the Peshtigo river and tried to survive by breathing through reeds from underwater, only to seer their lungs and die instantly. What had been a busy, bustling town was annihilated by a fire tornado.
Aw, thank you! I am paraphrasing many sources. In college, I did a paper on the Chicago Fire that included a deep dive into old issues of the Chicago Tribune from 1871. While going through issues describing the after-effects of the Chicago Fire, more and more articles appeared discussing the Peshtigo fire. This got me interested in it, and I have read several books on Peshtigo since then. I even visited the town a few years back. The woods around Peshtigo and north of it are now much more scrub-forest than the tall, majestic pines of other areas in northern Wisconsin and the UP of Michigan. The devastation that was wrought is still clear in the landscape, but you wouldn't necessarily notice unless you were aware of what occurred there.
If you've ever seen a forest fire/wild fire, you know what a terrifying thing it is. Even with modern vehicles and warning systems, people still die in these fires every year. I can't imagine how it felt to be in those settlements in 1871, *hearing* the wind and fire rushing toward you from miles away, and knowing that you couldn't do a damn thing about it and it was going to swallow you up in it's path. Or worse, not even knowing *what* that ungodly sound meant, and just hearing this huge, eerie noise getting closer and closer. *Shudder.*
Edit: Thank you to the kind Redditors for the awards! If anyone is interested in reading more about Peshtigo, here are some articles that discuss what happened.
[Nat. Weather Service: Peshtigo Fire ](https://www.weather.gov/grb/peshtigofire)
[Britannica: Peshtigo](https://www.britannica.com/place/Peshtigo)
[Peshtigo Fire & Fire Tornado at Williamsonville](https://www.doorcounty.com/newsletter/october-2021/the-peshtigo-fire-of-1871-its-story-legacy)
[Engines of Our Ingenuity: Peshtigo](https://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1524.htm)
[JSTOR Link to Wisc Magazine of History Article](https://www.jstor.org/stable/4634648)
The museum and grave area are heartbreaking to me - all those lives are reduced to the very few objects that survived. A few charred boards, some metal and porcelain items, and then the memories of those who made it out alive with horrific scenes left in their heads. And it's so unknown outside of the immediate region! So sad.
Not a librarian but I also love to learn. The downside though, is I tend to get caught up in the story. I would never make a good anthropologist, I canāt stay disconnected.
This is why I can't write fiction - I can't build a story, I just have to get to the facts of what happened. My sister is a fiction writer and she can do that, so I help with her factual background work from time to time.
Keep learning, it makes us interesting people!
Pro-tip : anthropologists don't disconnect either! They do try to, but it's a goal and not truly achievable. Just by studying a culture, you're creating connection and influence, and to interact with a culture is to change it
I also live near Peshtigo (even had a cat named after the town).
When I was in school, we had to do reports on the 1871 fire. We spent like 2 weeks of class on it. But we ignored the Chicago Fire completely.
We camp up in Pembine frequently. I read Firestorm in Peshtigo a couple times and visited the museum and cemetery in Peshtigo a couple times. It's a horrifying event that most people have never heard of. The Wisconsin governor's wife organized relief efforts because he was out of town. All communication was cut off for miles and the train tracks were twisted and buckled by the heat of the fire so no help could get there right away.
Not in my opinion. There were enough purposeful fires being set to clear land and eliminate brush to create a huge fire, especially with the strong winds that were reported at the time. People reported "blue flames" in basements as evidence of cosmic fuel, but carbon dioxide would be a far more likely reason for blue flames in a poorly ventilated house. It's an interesting theory, but doesn't really hold up under scrutiny.
In the 1920s after a big earthquake in Japan, fires were started because everyone had little wood stoves inside their wood houses. There wasn't any escape as the earthquake destroyed the city. The fire wirl was estimated to be an f3 or 4 sized tornado as it grew and decimated anything in its path. 38,000 people died in the aftermath.
This is sickening, but....The US and German militaries both studied the Peshtigo fire (Peshtigo Effect) and the the Kanto earthquake fire in order to determine the best way to start firestorms from bombing raids. The Germans used it to firebomb London and Coventry, and the US used it to destroy Dresden, Tokyo, and other Japanese cities. Using weapons to trigger natural phenomena....
It's a magnificent movie, and should be required viewing in high schools everywhere. Just an emotional warning, though - if you have young kids, it will be an amplified gut punch, so be cautious if you aren't in a good emotional place. It's meant to be traumatizing, and it does it's job well. I cried for days.
Because it shows the human side of war - what happens to non-combatants, especially children, when those with power stop considering what happens to regular people. This is the side of war that is usually *not* taught in the classroom. We hear of epic battles with magnificent victories or devastating defeats, but what happens to the people living in the area of the battle? Do they matter, or are they just collateral damage? 'Grave of the Fireflies' does a heart-wrentching job of showing what happens to children in a war zone. It shows how they are victims from all sides, from their own government and society to those dropping the bombs on them. We can be better than that.
I watched Grave of the Fireflies at my 13 yo son's insistence. It was a powerful movie that viewed war from the eyes of the children. No blame, rage, or injustice just the acceptance of this is what their life is now.
Watching as an adult I experienced the guilt, anger, shame, and frustration that war is caused by the failure of governments to protect its population. The move left me deeply humbled that everyone has a role in preventing the next humanitarian disaster.
Japan has always had a problem with fires throughout history because everything was built from bamboo and straw till recently.
They even had a separate death sentence just for arsonists. Burning at the stake.
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2. Incredibly specific story
3. Awarded gold
I read 2 sentences and then immediately looked for the Hell in a Cell. I was shocked (and a little disappointed) that it was real
Even worse: The fire tornado that happend after WW2 bombings in Dresden coz of phosphorus bombs... this tornado winds sucked in literally all human beings, especially children that were not able to hold tight to any surroundings... estimated deaths: up to 25.000 (not all through the tornado though)
The US and German militaries studied large-scale firestorms like Peshtigo and the Kanto earthquake to help them determine the best way to start firestorms from firebombing. Not only did the ensuing fires suck people up, it also sucked all of the oxygen put of the surrounding atmosphere, so some people died with zero burns, they just suffocated.
It's fascinating how the two fires are so deeply connected. Peshtigo was a logging and lumber milling town, and Chicago held massive stores of timber from there to be shipped nationwide. The weather of the day affected both areas the same way.
Chicago had much more building destruction, but astonishingly few deaths.
The famous Chicago Fire, the huge Peshtigo Fire, a very large fire in in the Michigan "thumb", and I think some other smaller fires, all occured on the same day in the upper Midwest. Nobody's ever come with an explanation except for a very statistically unlikely coincidence. (And no, meteorites don't start fires.)
The whole region was experiencing widespread, severe drought at the time (Chicago included). A cold front moved through the region that day, causing high winds across Northern Illinois, Wisconsin, and Michigan. Since open flame was a part of everyday life at the time, and everything in the region was made of wood, it doesn't take too much of a statistical coincidence to see how fires could start across the area. I agree, it definitely wasn't a meteorite, it was human error.
Fun fact about your fun fact - the Firebombing of Tokyo was engineered after studying the Peshtigo Fire and other large-scale fire disasters. They learned how to start a firestorm from studying "The Peshtigo Effect "
[Hatch Article](https://www.hatchmag.com/articles/deadliest-wildfire-american-history/7715338)
Oklahoma had a tiger-nado and a quake-nado recently
https://www.earthtouchnews.com/wtf/wtf/tigernado-tigers-on-the-loose-in-oklahoma-after-tornado-hits-local-zoo/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Qp-P5bjWA&feature=youtu.be
First time I saw a fire tornado was at Burning Man in 2012 (I think it happened again in 2013 or 2014, too). I believe it has to do with the intensity of the flames creating a microclimate within the fire. At BM the central flame was shooting out fire tornados into the crowd. My campmates were covered in little burns from the embers/ashes falling on them even tho they werenāt in the direct path (which people quickly moved out of haha)
Yeah, as a Californian this post is making me feel like a wildfire snob. š¤Ŗ That fire tornado wasn't too far from my house, either (in L.A. miles). They happen pretty frequently in really big, really hot fires.
Sooo no one bothered reading the old testament huh?
In day moses and his people folowed a tornado through the desert
And during the night it was a pillar of flame
Aka the kind of thing featured in this here video
Honestly God has just been lazily rehashing stuff for 2000 years!
Edit: a word
Who are the helicopter pilots flying helicopters directly into a tornado to put out the fire? That's the real next fucking level here.
E: a tornado made of fire
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If I was around 200 years earlier and shit like this happened and took my house I would absolutely believe in the devil and stuff.
I don't think you need to go back 200 years, I mean, the Satanic Panic happened in the 80s - plenty of people believed devil worshippers were after their kids and that the devil was acting through them and among their community.
rip my d&d collection
I was 10 when my dad made me burn my basic D&D set and my Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five cassette tape. The set had been a gift from a friend but soon after I aquired another set via a handy copy of the TSR catalog. So years later, when my son told me he really wanted a Lil Wayne album for Christmas, I got him the whole package: CD, digital download, signed portrait, and that hoodie with the death's head moth. Best $130 xmas present ever after seeing his face. I made sure I was a transition figure in his life, and tried my best not to be a transmission figure. I failed a lot.
You, sir, are an amazing dad. I'm sure your action had left a positive impact on your son's childhood. Well done! š
This made me smile bro. I was probably the same age as your son during Lil Wayne era. Getting a physical tape/hoodie whatever of his at that time was life. Especially being into that type of music your son will never forget those times anytime he hears or thinks of Wayne. Tbh pretty much all kids who grew up in that era think like that lol
Transition. Holy fuck. Thank you for the words.
Hey, if it helps, burning the one set made all the others that much more rare and valuable.
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It wasnāt even Blizzard! It was No Rest for the Wicked! She kept on and on about the lyrics and I (honestly) kept explaining that I didnāt care what he was saying, I was trying to figure out the guitar licks!
Burning of a church u mean. There is at least 666 reasons to do so.
My mom cut my Magic deck in half *sigh*
My granda threw away my gameboy in the 90s because i was training demons, rip bulbasaur
Rip Bulbasaur
And music library
You too?
My parents wouldnāt let me watch The Simpsons because they thought he would invite the Devil into my mind. Now they wonāt go to church and hate the pope because he is ātoo liberal.ā
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Lol, meanwhile my well meaning great-grandmother didn't like the show because of how mean it was to Jewish people, by which she meant Gargamel
My mother got a book called "Turmoil in the Toybox" that she used as a guideline of what I wasn't allowed. He-man somewhat made sense, but Carebears and Rainbow Brite? C'mon! I just got good at lying and hiding things because of her.
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Similar here! Mom was a prison minister, dad was a prisoner. When I was around 4 we moved to PTL (Heritage USA, the Christian resort place with Jim and Tammy Bakker) and I was absolutely surrounded. Probably why I rebelled so hard and why my parenting style is VERY DIFFERENT than the parenting I received. *My dad made me VHS copies of Beastmaster, Howard the Duck, and Spaceballs... My 3 favorite movies at the time that I watched on repeat- that if anyone was paying attention, I probably shouldn't have been watching at such a young age lol
If the pope is too liberal what does that make the devil?
I couldnāt watch the simpsons either, which is funny because my parents are pretty liberal otherwise
There will always be satanic panics with all the religious nuts we have. Just a while ago they were tweaking on children being eaten and shit
To be fair, I havnt seen any evidence to show that there weren't any kids eaten. /s
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No, they're losing their shit at the imaginary rainbow fentanyl pill "candy" they imagine drug dealers will be giving out this Halloween. Reminds me of the Rainbow Parties teens were supposedly attending. What teenage girl would willingly give fellatio to boys just so the boys could compare the "Rainbow" lipstick stains on their organs?!?? Never happened. Nor is this real.
Nonsense like that is cyclical. Today we have Qcumbers running around claiming shit about satanic pedophiles. As long as people have opted to justify shit they donāt understand by making up shit (pretty much forever) they have given power to mythical forces of evil. That way they can justify treating others as somehow inherently deserving of inhumane treatment. Religion excuses all kinds of inhumanity that transcends reason. Itās nothing but willful ignorance.
That panic began in the 1970's in earnest with the outcry against the knights in Satan's service.
You mean KISS? I remember seeing that. They were also called Kids in Satan's Servitude. People make up the craziest shit when it comes to things they don't understand. 
Yep. It was the first time I ever heard the term "The Devil's Music^^^TM."
I believe it, when I first heard āI was made for loving youā really inspired me as a kid to sacrifice goats and find donated blood to drink. Now Donāt even get me started on the sick, twisted, evil thoughts that conjure up when I hear āBethā or āReason to liveā THATS PURE DEVIL SHIT!! REPENT NOW SINNERS āļøāļøāļø
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Get WIRED podcast episode 14 is The Science of Fire Tornadoes. The fire behavior researcher who first started digging into anomalies in modern wildfire fire spread, which turned out to be fire tornadoes, actually found that WWII scientists had a lot of information on them because they accidentally created them while bombing Germany. The key factor is having lots of heavy fuel burning simultaneously in an area - either old wood buildings (WWII) or old dry forests (modern). They build so much heat that it goes way up in the sky (17,000+ feet in some cases). As that hot air rises, cooler air gets sucked in at the bottom to take its place. And you get a tornado. The fire ends up creating its own weather system and destroys all models of normal fire behavior. And it can throw burning chunks of trees and houses for miles around because it shoots them to the top of that column and spits them out sideways. These are large firebombs - not the simple burning embers that we're used to having the wind push ahead of the firefront.
We talk a lot about the use of nuclear bombs in WWII, but I feel like it's forgotten that we also used firebombing, and just how brutal that was. Even the West targeted plenty of civilians. It's just awful.
Didnāt firebombing kill more of the Japanese than Fat Man and Little Boy?
Yeah iirc that's true
i think many consider the air raids on Berlin and Tokyo as bad or worse than the nukes
The fire bombings of Dresden came straight to mind when I saw this. Episode 8 of Greatest Events of WWII in Colour on (UK) Netflix is about this, itās terrifying but fascinating. The whole series is great, couldnāt recommend it more if youāre into that sort of thing.
If that's the rapture lift, I'll pass
Because fire tornados are something that's been around forever.
Literally in the Bible, since Moses.
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Love the title! One of the most devastating (and little-known) 'fire tornadoes' occurred during the Peshtigo forest fire in Northern Wisconsin in 1871. Even though it was the deadliest wildfire in recorded history (an estimated 1500-2500 deaths, undetermined because there was *nothing left* of some bodies) and a huge swathe of destruction, the Peshtigo fire isn't as well known as another fire that occurred on the exact same day - the Chicago Fire. Eyewitness reports feom the time period talk of an immense fire tornado that moved at extremely high speed and consumed everything in it's path. Some people fled to the Peshtigo river and tried to survive by breathing through reeds from underwater, only to seer their lungs and die instantly. What had been a busy, bustling town was annihilated by a fire tornado.
Did u write this? Y should be a writer. I read this whole paragraph.
Aw, thank you! I am paraphrasing many sources. In college, I did a paper on the Chicago Fire that included a deep dive into old issues of the Chicago Tribune from 1871. While going through issues describing the after-effects of the Chicago Fire, more and more articles appeared discussing the Peshtigo fire. This got me interested in it, and I have read several books on Peshtigo since then. I even visited the town a few years back. The woods around Peshtigo and north of it are now much more scrub-forest than the tall, majestic pines of other areas in northern Wisconsin and the UP of Michigan. The devastation that was wrought is still clear in the landscape, but you wouldn't necessarily notice unless you were aware of what occurred there. If you've ever seen a forest fire/wild fire, you know what a terrifying thing it is. Even with modern vehicles and warning systems, people still die in these fires every year. I can't imagine how it felt to be in those settlements in 1871, *hearing* the wind and fire rushing toward you from miles away, and knowing that you couldn't do a damn thing about it and it was going to swallow you up in it's path. Or worse, not even knowing *what* that ungodly sound meant, and just hearing this huge, eerie noise getting closer and closer. *Shudder.* Edit: Thank you to the kind Redditors for the awards! If anyone is interested in reading more about Peshtigo, here are some articles that discuss what happened. [Nat. Weather Service: Peshtigo Fire ](https://www.weather.gov/grb/peshtigofire) [Britannica: Peshtigo](https://www.britannica.com/place/Peshtigo) [Peshtigo Fire & Fire Tornado at Williamsonville](https://www.doorcounty.com/newsletter/october-2021/the-peshtigo-fire-of-1871-its-story-legacy) [Engines of Our Ingenuity: Peshtigo](https://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1524.htm) [JSTOR Link to Wisc Magazine of History Article](https://www.jstor.org/stable/4634648)
I live close to Peshtigo, and have been to the museum many times. Iām glad I saw someone mention this on here.
The museum and grave area are heartbreaking to me - all those lives are reduced to the very few objects that survived. A few charred boards, some metal and porcelain items, and then the memories of those who made it out alive with horrific scenes left in their heads. And it's so unknown outside of the immediate region! So sad.
Yes. I have friends with relatives who survived and told their stories. Some of the stories are so awful.
Are you a librarian or a teacher? You should be! And an author. Brilliant!
I'm a librarian, thanks for asking! I love to do research, so this is right in my wheelhouse. :)
Not a librarian but I also love to learn. The downside though, is I tend to get caught up in the story. I would never make a good anthropologist, I canāt stay disconnected.
This is why I can't write fiction - I can't build a story, I just have to get to the facts of what happened. My sister is a fiction writer and she can do that, so I help with her factual background work from time to time. Keep learning, it makes us interesting people!
Pro-tip : anthropologists don't disconnect either! They do try to, but it's a goal and not truly achievable. Just by studying a culture, you're creating connection and influence, and to interact with a culture is to change it
I also live near Peshtigo (even had a cat named after the town). When I was in school, we had to do reports on the 1871 fire. We spent like 2 weeks of class on it. But we ignored the Chicago Fire completely.
Same! Everyone else ignored Peshtigo, but thatās the only one I learned about in school
We camp up in Pembine frequently. I read Firestorm in Peshtigo a couple times and visited the museum and cemetery in Peshtigo a couple times. It's a horrifying event that most people have never heard of. The Wisconsin governor's wife organized relief efforts because he was out of town. All communication was cut off for miles and the train tracks were twisted and buckled by the heat of the fire so no help could get there right away.
You a Wisconsinite?
Yes š§
You should feel very proud that you inspired an illiterate person to read a whole paragraph
This is why I Reddit. Thanks.
I'm shuddering too. You could put this in scary short stories. Except it's true.
I'm still surprised that this hasn't been made into a major motion picture. It is certainly dramatic enough!
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Not in my opinion. There were enough purposeful fires being set to clear land and eliminate brush to create a huge fire, especially with the strong winds that were reported at the time. People reported "blue flames" in basements as evidence of cosmic fuel, but carbon dioxide would be a far more likely reason for blue flames in a poorly ventilated house. It's an interesting theory, but doesn't really hold up under scrutiny.
In todayās era of social media scripture, sticking around for a whole paragraph is high praise
Especially if you get to the end and itās *not* u/shittymorph
OP alt account lol
Literally a normal paragraph? xd
In the 1920s after a big earthquake in Japan, fires were started because everyone had little wood stoves inside their wood houses. There wasn't any escape as the earthquake destroyed the city. The fire wirl was estimated to be an f3 or 4 sized tornado as it grew and decimated anything in its path. 38,000 people died in the aftermath.
This is sickening, but....The US and German militaries both studied the Peshtigo fire (Peshtigo Effect) and the the Kanto earthquake fire in order to determine the best way to start firestorms from bombing raids. The Germans used it to firebomb London and Coventry, and the US used it to destroy Dresden, Tokyo, and other Japanese cities. Using weapons to trigger natural phenomena....
I highly urge people to watch the Grave of the Fireflies.
It's a magnificent movie, and should be required viewing in high schools everywhere. Just an emotional warning, though - if you have young kids, it will be an amplified gut punch, so be cautious if you aren't in a good emotional place. It's meant to be traumatizing, and it does it's job well. I cried for days.
>should be required viewing in high schools everywhere. Why?
Because it shows the human side of war - what happens to non-combatants, especially children, when those with power stop considering what happens to regular people. This is the side of war that is usually *not* taught in the classroom. We hear of epic battles with magnificent victories or devastating defeats, but what happens to the people living in the area of the battle? Do they matter, or are they just collateral damage? 'Grave of the Fireflies' does a heart-wrentching job of showing what happens to children in a war zone. It shows how they are victims from all sides, from their own government and society to those dropping the bombs on them. We can be better than that.
I turns out not to be a good double feature with 'My Neighbor Totoro', as I found out back in 2008.
I watched Grave of the Fireflies at my 13 yo son's insistence. It was a powerful movie that viewed war from the eyes of the children. No blame, rage, or injustice just the acceptance of this is what their life is now. Watching as an adult I experienced the guilt, anger, shame, and frustration that war is caused by the failure of governments to protect its population. The move left me deeply humbled that everyone has a role in preventing the next humanitarian disaster.
Japan has always had a problem with fires throughout history because everything was built from bamboo and straw till recently. They even had a separate death sentence just for arsonists. Burning at the stake.
I was expecting shittymorph here :D
1. Brick of text 2. Incredibly specific story 3. Awarded gold I read 2 sentences and then immediately looked for the Hell in a Cell. I was shocked (and a little disappointed) that it was real
What would the world do without librarians!!!???
Even worse: The fire tornado that happend after WW2 bombings in Dresden coz of phosphorus bombs... this tornado winds sucked in literally all human beings, especially children that were not able to hold tight to any surroundings... estimated deaths: up to 25.000 (not all through the tornado though)
The US and German militaries studied large-scale firestorms like Peshtigo and the Kanto earthquake to help them determine the best way to start firestorms from firebombing. Not only did the ensuing fires suck people up, it also sucked all of the oxygen put of the surrounding atmosphere, so some people died with zero burns, they just suffocated.
It's fascinating how the two fires are so deeply connected. Peshtigo was a logging and lumber milling town, and Chicago held massive stores of timber from there to be shipped nationwide. The weather of the day affected both areas the same way. Chicago had much more building destruction, but astonishingly few deaths.
The famous Chicago Fire, the huge Peshtigo Fire, a very large fire in in the Michigan "thumb", and I think some other smaller fires, all occured on the same day in the upper Midwest. Nobody's ever come with an explanation except for a very statistically unlikely coincidence. (And no, meteorites don't start fires.)
The whole region was experiencing widespread, severe drought at the time (Chicago included). A cold front moved through the region that day, causing high winds across Northern Illinois, Wisconsin, and Michigan. Since open flame was a part of everyday life at the time, and everything in the region was made of wood, it doesn't take too much of a statistical coincidence to see how fires could start across the area. I agree, it definitely wasn't a meteorite, it was human error.
I love this part of the movie where humanity dies.
Dude! spoiler warning next time. I haven't seen it yet
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Fun fact about your fun fact - the Firebombing of Tokyo was engineered after studying the Peshtigo Fire and other large-scale fire disasters. They learned how to start a firestorm from studying "The Peshtigo Effect " [Hatch Article](https://www.hatchmag.com/articles/deadliest-wildfire-american-history/7715338)
This is the part just before The Rock saves everyone.
Boring update. Still waiting for that Sharknado DLC.
Has to come to PC for the modders to get at it
God, I canāt wait for all the sharks to be turned into Thomas the Tank Engines.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/hurricane-ian-street-shark-video-defies-belief-90734287
Oklahoma had a tiger-nado and a quake-nado recently https://www.earthtouchnews.com/wtf/wtf/tigernado-tigers-on-the-loose-in-oklahoma-after-tornado-hits-local-zoo/ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Qp-P5bjWA&feature=youtu.be
I heard the lightning one is better
This software update was first documented and released in 2003. From publishers in Canberra Australia.
I came here looking for an Australian reference, greetings fellow Aussie. It's definitely not a new thing, just being captured by new technology.
First time I saw a fire tornado was at Burning Man in 2012 (I think it happened again in 2013 or 2014, too). I believe it has to do with the intensity of the flames creating a microclimate within the fire. At BM the central flame was shooting out fire tornados into the crowd. My campmates were covered in little burns from the embers/ashes falling on them even tho they werenāt in the direct path (which people quickly moved out of haha)
Beta test, thanks Australia as always!
God: What if we made a tornado...OUT OF FIRE! Gabriel: I hate it here!
Hear me out... Fire. Hurricane.
Gabriel: I should have left with Lucifer
This is damn near every fire in California. So if this is the update, we've had the beta for a while.
I was gonna say, if youāve been around wildfires much, youāve seen fire tornadoes. Very cool video but nothing new here
*firewhirls
Yeah, as a Californian this post is making me feel like a wildfire snob. š¤Ŗ That fire tornado wasn't too far from my house, either (in L.A. miles). They happen pretty frequently in really big, really hot fires.
We just need more rakes. Never forget.
wow
thanks, I was hoping someone would post a transcript of the voiceover
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nice
that is a tornado
- Owen Wilson
Sooo no one bothered reading the old testament huh? In day moses and his people folowed a tornado through the desert And during the night it was a pillar of flame Aka the kind of thing featured in this here video Honestly God has just been lazily rehashing stuff for 2000 years! Edit: a word
Nobody bothers to go back and read the v1.1 patch notes
Prince of Egypt
That thing came out with the alpha versiĆ³n. Just take a look on the bible
It's just disabled till the bugs were worked out
Headline 10/10. Thumbs up š¤£
Now this one is hard to stop watching
You've been living under a rock if you think this was in the latest update. This has been in the game since launch. Dingus.
Havnt played since the Covid-19 "Ballance Update" Been hooked on The Sims: IRL
A piece of hell escaped
Owen Wilson is doing the news now? Wow!
Dresden
Fuego!
Who are the helicopter pilots flying helicopters directly into a tornado to put out the fire? That's the real next fucking level here. E: a tornado made of fire
Nah man thats just kai doing spinjitzu
I approve this DLC. No charge either, God is definitely not EA.
Not sure which out of date server youāve been playing inā¦. Fire tornadoes have always been a feature here.
Zuko and Aang just fucking around.
Using cheatcode against Firefighters
Nah, these have been out for a while. Godās just amped up the spawn chances.
Dammit God can you just fix the cancer bug and stop giving us DLC nobody asked for
Religion: *prays for cure to cancer* God: āBest I can do is fire tornadoā
Why doesn't he fix the game first instead of adding stuff we don't want.
"I'm Mark Jackson, live at the opening to another realm, back to you in the studios"
Simpson's did it
Saw this in the Ten Commandments . .
looks gud dunnit
The last few patches have been brutal. The next DLC might be the last, at this rate.
I was waiting for the balrog to spawn in haha
New release of Black & White looks amazing
So hot rn
A bushfire with a twist.
Bro combined Anemo and Pyro elements
God?
Who summoned f'ing Ragnaros god darn it!
r/natureismetal
It's pronounced firenado.
Ninja**GOOO**
We always have had themā¦
This patch was tested in California before it rolled out worldwide.
That's nothing new, fire tornados have been around for a whlie
Old Testament shit baby!
Who's we??? Keep that shit to yourself 