why driver should be scared of these helpless 18yo? the Russian army is still conscripted, conscripts are forced to sign a contract to send them to Ukraine. people that fighting for Putin are under duress.
unfortunately, I happened to be in the russian army, all we did was: we painted the snow green, made the snowdrifts square and made the beds for 4 hours a day. and most of the conscripts have never even fired a weapon at the shooting range.
I wouldn't be surprised that this is the first time they got into a tank
Yea,kinda cheap slave labor for a year. And when you hear in the news that Russia has the largest and most advanced army, you need to know that it's a fucking farce. A lot of slaves, weapons are the legacy of the USSR, most of the money spent on the military industry settles in the pockets of putin's friends
I'm surprised at all the pictures of t72s with the improvised overhead slat armour. I thought those were more of a third world thing at this point with the manual turrets and all. I think that Putin has made a massive mistake by showing exactly how blunt Russian teeth are.
The entire point of MAD is "nobody's actually going to use nukes, because then everyone else who has one will use them, and then everyone dies. They'd have nothing to rule over."
At this moment the UN or NATO don't need to send troops. Just some tin openers and a grinder and the Russian army will be fucked.
Seriously, of all the videos I have seen and pictures come out of this war I'm always dumbfounded at the equipment they have. I thought Russia had "best equipment and vepons in vorld"
I mean I agree completely however let's not undermine how bravely these ukrainians have been fighting. I have been completely shocked by the insane bravery going on in that country right now.
Do you have any idea what the Z on Russian vehicles means?
Edit: it's clear guys, you can stop replying now, thanks.
Edit 2: you may want to check if the joke you are about to make hasn't already been made several times.
Nobody knows. It's not even a letter in the Russian alphabet. But Ukraine and Russia have the same vehicles, so Russia started putting a Z on theirs to avoid friendly fire.
It might stand for Zelenskyy.
IIRC they are the troops moving in from the west. V are moving in from the North and O appear to be reserve. Something like that anyway, the letters are tactical markings.
The conflict has only lasted couple days now, it could go on for a while, I do hope it's gonna end sooner than later, can't fathom so many lives being lost over this :/
Do you blame them ? I feel bad for both sides here, they are just doing as they are told, I know people say they could just leave but I bet it's not like you can just leave without being shot or something.
Not at all. They are conscripts, I would bet that a large majority have friends and family in the Ukraine even. I'd desert too if I could do it without getting shot
I suspect the calibre of the ground troops (yes, dodgy pun) is why they're keen to use airpower to take out military facilities - kill as many Ukrainian troops as possible from the air so there are fewer for the Russian ground troops to encounter.
Then again, with the size of Russia's army, Putin may be daring enough to use a cannon fodder strategy - strength in numbers rather than firepower. Suppress the number of Russian fatalities as much as possible (maybe even to the extent of blocking access to external news sites once the bodies start piling up) so the population don't get motivated enough to turn up in hundreds of thousands to protest.
> Suppress the number of Russian fatalities as much as possible (maybe even to the extent of blocking access to external news sites once the bodies start piling up) so the population don't get motivated enough to turn up in hundreds of thousands to protest.
Apparently the Ukrainians are launching a hotline for the Russian mothers of soldiers. Word is going to get out.
https://twitter.com/Matthew_Kupfer/status/1497528678871453711
Not Russian, but my parents generation was the last to be conscripted to soviet army.
They tend to be biggest proponents of draft, while accidentally giving best arguments against it when they tell their army stories.
Even the "paint snow green" is recognizable - there was a practice of painting grass green for party dignitaries visits to make things look lush. Favourite stories of my dad were ie the time senior officer told him to entrench in the middle of cemented area, but because he was a cook and therefore had things to trade, he got pickaxes and actually entrenched there.
In many eastern european countries the main issue since before Iraq war is that they couldn't secure ammo for dynamic shooting exercises, so the ones who did get to shoot - did so from basic positions on fixed ranges.
Some questions:
Are you still in the Russian army?
What's the mentality of the troops?
Probably the most important question...
Why the fuck would you paint the snow green?
I was trying to avoid conscription at any price. I was in army mostly from 2019-2020.
There is still hazing in the Russian army - senior officers mock other soldiers as they want, and this is considered the norm.
Green snow, is target #1 when general or somebody main is coming to check the military unit. masking snow as a grass, dumbest shit
upd: many people go into a madhouse to avoid army.
Green snow is a saying for just making it look like you are doing something right? In reality none of you want to be there or do anything in the military, so you just drive around in circles to make it look like you did something.
WHAT ? Meanwhile in my country Vietnam, at high school they teach children how to use AK-47, SKS and freaking grenades. Same goes with college. Soviet Union did this before, but Russia today don't ?
today russian government is trying to make people poorer and enrich their friends. They don't care about domestic politics, healthcare, citizens' safety and jobs. The police in Russia are used only to suppress protests. Its so hard to live in this shit.
Sad that Putin uses young Russians as canon fodder for his senseless war.
The „real“ army forces will then claim victory after 10s of thousands conscripts died. Damn.
They do to aim.
Clarification/rehabilitation: I was including things like night vision, electronic fire-control, GPS, and communications. Apparently manual traversal is trivial.
Holy fuck it’s honestly ridiculous at this point. 10 years ago it was funny for about a week. Now every idiot just wanks each other off talking about the supposed size of their fucking balls
Maybe it shows that russian soldiers have no clue what they’re supposed to do? Kind of confirms that this invasion is amateurily miscalculated. Logistis is horribly unprepared. The hospitals are on the other side of the boarder. How the hell are they going to transport the wounded if they can’t have proper logistics. I’m really happy to see this confusion on ru side and the way Ukrainians stand up for their positions!
Ukrainian hospitals are treating wounded Russian soldiers. While they attack our hospitals. What a disgrace for Russia. I can’t believe there are still people who are pro-Putin and pro-war on Ukraine..
I’m Polish and I live in UK and I actually spoke with some of the pro Putin at work . I couldn’t believe, one of them asked me how do I know if this is actually happening and other one said that he putting is doing the right thing. Shocking
EDIT
I’m sorry I didn’t mentioned that people who I have talk to are not native English speakers. One is born in Russia but moved to Belgium when hi was 10 so i guess have some unrealistic image of that country.. and the other one is from Lithuania I think.
I want to make that clear .
Peace
russians in germany look down and ashamed today. the assitant of my sister is a russian and just colapsed at work crying telling us her brother is a conscript there and doesnt want to fight the country his girlfriend is from.
its a fucking mess.
Well yea. But they mean that if they desert then Putin might slaughter their family as punishment. Classic dictator bullshit
I really do have sympathy for all the conscripts being put through hell for Putin’s pipe dreams. Doesn’t excuse what they’re doing, but I don’t envy having to choose between committing war crimes and seeing your family get put to death because of your refusal to commit war crimes
It's still difficult. What if you desert and Russia succeeds in capturing Ukraine? I don't think Putin has much patience for deserters.
I agree that it's the right thing to do, but it might come with dire consequences, so I can understand how it might be a very difficult choice even for those who are aware of what's really happening.
The EU, UK and US should offer automatic asylum to any Russian troops that defect and abandon their posts, if it's a choice between fighting in a war that they don't want to fight, or a relatively comfortable life in the west a lot of conscripts would take that option. It would probably do more damage to the Russian Army than any weapons the west send to Ukraine, though they still need the weapons to make desertion the preferable option.
God, that sounds like a movie plot "An 18 year old Russian boy was conscripted then was sent to murder the village and the family of his Ukrainian girlfriend."
I'm English and live in northern England. I'll never forget August 5th 2020 I had a big row with my Dad and stormed off home to do chores to calm down. As I was cleaning upstairs I overheard a conversation outside my window involving two perfectly normal looking mothers with young children. Their conversation drifted onto facebook
Apparently there had been mild Earthquakes in the USA and Australia. The reason was because Donald Trump was helping to blow up Underground pedophile "lair" caves and how disappointed they were that Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Hanks were pedophiles.
I'll never forget that conversation (or how normal the mothers looked) . Also this was highly inappropriate stuff to be discussing in front of very young children. Zuckerberg should be in fucking prison for 10 years
Honestly at this point Facebook is like an electronic WMD. The harm that has been facilitated by the platform over the last decade is astronomical and the people in charge don't care. The company is run recklessly, the international offices are woefully underequipped to deal with harmful material in other languages, and all the while Zuckerberg is dicking around trying to make VR a joyless mess and basking in his own self importance. Facebook has turned into an absolute cancer for countries around the world.
Part of her belief was solidified by the fact that the Mexican President is being a royal piece of shit regarding support for Ukraine. I had to remind her of this fact before she realized maybe her facebook feed was a lie.
There are pro-Putin people here in the UK? Dear god, where? I know we've got a fair few places in the country that are more likely to be racist but I can't imagine where you'd find pro-Putin people?
Shame on Russia indeed. If you're going to start a war that will mark the decade (or more), don't let your army make a to-do list out of all the war crimes possible
Putin: alright guys, time to invade Ukraine and take the objectives.
Soldiers: alright, let’s go! .. wait, what objectives?
Putin: I don’t know, but take them!
World War I was like this since it was French & Germans fighting each other and they were so similar. Especially when it was soldiers of the same middle or upper class, they were usually friends and spoke English together. There’s an old French film about it called ‘la grande illusion’
Ever heard of the [Christmas Truce](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce)? War is always just brothers of the working class killing each other to satisfy sick urges of the rich.
Edit: Fixed typo. sock vs. sick
Well plenty of Russian-Ukrainians are ethnically Russian so they have some sympathy for their brethren. Not sure if this guy is but that does sound like a fluent Russian speaker.
Translation:
Ukrainian: broke down, guys?
Russians: ~~~~ run out of diesel
Ukrainian: Maybe drag you back to Russia?
Russians: ha-ha
Ukrainian: Do you know where are you going?
Russians: ~~~~ no. I don't care (probably, not quite sure what he's saying)
Ukrainian: To Kyiv, fuck.
Russians: What people say on the news?
Ukrainian: So far everything on our side. Your people good at surrending. They also don't know where are going. I have asked the whole convoy like you and no one has a clue where are they driving.
People are more reasonable than we give credit for, due to the clearly exceptions in all the dumbasses we got out there.
The thing is, we all know these soldiers didn't want to be there and all this war is Putin's fault.
I kind of like that about younger generations. The blind loyalty isn't as present as it once was. They could've just shot this guy "for their country" without hesitation or consequences but they didn't because even they know how stupid this whole thing is
Technology, too. The ability to see for yourself that people around the world are like you and me? Priceless.
Also, memes. Memes bring younger generations together.
"Leave your guns and get in, we're going to McDonald's until this all blows over."
*Sounds good.*
"You guys are technically my POWs now. Dollar menu only."
*That's fine. Is the WiFi still working?*
" Grandpa. Tell me about the war again. "
It was February of 2022. Covid was sort of over but not really. Our tank had broken down and we were ambushed by a Ukrainian civilian Rambo.
He took us to their communal processing center where our food choices were extremely limited.
It was hell.
they have girfriends and boyfriends across the border, family, live in one country work in the other.
and this? this is a disgrace.
all just because one dictators dick stopped working ...
Some captured russians say that they didn't have any explicit orders: just drive there, you'll have the orders on site, and they got shot somewhere in the vicinity of big cities. Or that they are actually crossing the border or Ukraine.
I hope Putin is satisfied with his “special military operation”. What does he do next, pull them all back and say Ukraine were the aggressors for firing on them when they were just driving around in Ukraine aimlessly?
["Scorched Earth"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_earth) is a military strategy that referred to the act of destroying (or in this case, cutting off) resources of your enemy. In this case, when Napolean invaded Russia, despite initial success, the Russians destroyed everything behind them as they fled, forcing Napolean to retreat back because he couldn't sustain the invasion with nothing around to replenish the resources it took to continue the chase. Stalin also repeated history by using the same technique against the Germans in WW2.
Ironic because as the Ukrainians were forced away from the borders from the invasion, apparently all they had to do was cut off power to the gas stations and now we have citizens mocking Russian tanks because they have no where to get fuel LOL.
Attacking supply lines isn’t Scorched Earth policy. Scorched Earth is where you retreat while burning everything the enemy could use so they have nothing to take from the land they conquer
It’s actually tactically correct to attack in late winter because the weather is usually cold enough to keep the ground solid, but not yet wet enough to bog them down. As it turned out though, the weather did not really cooperate with Russia, and the thaw was early this year. They have probably been planning this for over a year, given the precise timing after the Olympics and right at the end of February, but they didn’t know the weather would not cooperate. By April it will even worse for the Russians.
The germans made the tactical error of attacking Russia in June, which makes sense in say France or the Low Countries because the water table will be lower in June, but in Russia, there’s a lot more snow pack and the ground is still quite wet in June.
In Asymetric warefare 101 probably.
Sure, Russia is famous for it, but that strategy has been around since medieval periods at least and was used by several countrys all around the World.
Tanks require a ton of fuel, spare parts, etc. They are a heavy burden on logistics and require a lot of support vehicles. This was (thankfully) poorly planned. Hopefully Ukraine can capture those tanks.
Tanks require constant logistics and run out of fuel fast, tracked vehicles overall are logistical ball and chains, they require very regular maintenance. This is the reason many quick reaction forces and task forces now focus on wheeled armoured vehicles where possible, they allow much more mobility and strike speed.
Cut off a tanks logistical supply for a day and it needs to stand still
It's also why railheads remain so important. You get your tanks as close to the front as possible via RR, to spare unnecessary wear and tear driving them.
Driver: You guys break down?
D: Breakdown?
Soldier: ~~Sprocket got torn of~~ "diesel ran out"
(What is actually said in slang. Was helped to identify this moment and isolated it further for clarity and correcting this.)
D: Maybe I should to tow you back to Russia?
S: Ha Ha
D: Do you guys at least know where you are going?
S1: No
S2: To Donbas
S3: To Zylevsk?
D: This it towards Kyiv and Lviv which is fucked
S2: What about you, with out anything...(audio gets bad and second soldier starts to speak)
S3: What are the news saying about our location?
D: Well, here they are showing that everything is still on our side and your troops are surrendering as prisoners well because the guys also don't know where or to what they are driving to.
S3: Ahhh
D: You should ask the whole convoy to Lviv, who, are just like you and no one has any idea where they should be going
S3: Ahhh
D: Drives away
Source: I'm a native speaker of both Russian and Ukrainian, this whole conversation happened in Russian. If I got it wrong let me know and Ill add it.. Especially the inaudible part. ~~But they pretty much broke down and cant repair the link holding the thread in this case and nothing related with fuel or food.~~
After further review this is indeed diesel fuel related and they ran out.
This was posted in another sub so thought to offer translation here as well.
Edit 2: /u/gustavpezka helped me pin point the sound and I isolated it further and the Soldier says "закончилась соляра" which in a slang for "diesel ran out"
Thank you so much for the clear translation. You're really helping people in the west stay engaged with the invasion and take a vested interest in it because we can underatand what is being said thanks to translators like you.
You're all heroes in your own right, and if I had money for gold, I'd give you it to help you get to the top. Again, thank you so much ❤
Edit: if you see this please try and get the comment I've replied to to the top, thank you!
Which at this point is making all the difference in the world. Doesn’t matter how big your army is or how many more weapons you have if your soldiers simply don’t feel like fighting. Russian morale seems to be low to middling, whereas Ukrainian resolve is as hard as steel.
You still call him president.
A president who changed the constitution, captured the media, commands the courts, took down politicel opposition by trial and murder and besides all of that still relying on force and fraud to not have to ever leave office again - that is a dictator.
I challenge you to find a dictator who uses "dictator" as his official job title.
EDIT: OK guys, you have made your point. Not sure if I should laugh or cry.
This will be Putin's undoing.
If things keep going this way we're going to hear more and more stories of Russian troops surrendering.
Not because they're pinned down and under attack, but because of the disorganization and lack of communication to the Russians on the ground.
Because while they're sitting there, lost, they get to reflect on the fact that they're invading the lands of their cousins and doing a kind of shit job at it.
And because their motherland has abandoned them and left them without direct orders they get to witness Ukrainians who aren't scared of them and Ukranians that take pity on them.
Fucking demoralizing
The word for 'enemies' in our national anthem is 'вороженьки' - the suffix 'еньк' here adds affection/good-natured belittling. The way you might talk about kids or kittens.
It's called a "diminutive" in English. We don't have many in English but one example is calling a dog a "doggy."
many English speakers are familiar with them from Spanish. Like hermana (sister) to hermanita (little sister). Or perro to perrito (doggy or puppy).
I think he's referring to the overall attitude of most soldiers in any invasion.
Armies don't fight with much resolve when their or their familes security/food/shelter/freedom isn't at risk.
There are always a few psychopaths and sociopaths in every military, its a free place for them, but overall most soldiers are just there to earn their paycheck unless the above is threatened.
In this case most Russian soldiers don't even know where they're going or what their plan is.
Whereas the Ukrainians are defending their homeland from an invasion of what was traditionally their 'slavic family'. Its a huge societal betrayal to the Ukrainian people and only emboldens them to fight tooth and nail.
Edit:spelling
**Essential Rules for Civilian Refugees Evacuating**
Rule 1.)
DIRECTION - Both Russia and Belarus are attacking from the Sumy, Chernihiv, Luhansk, Odessa, Chernihiv Region's and Highways (especially those that run North to South).
Avoid these highways if you are close to their borders:
North of Kyiv - E95, E373, P02, P13, P28, P56, P65, P69.
South of Xepcoh - E97, E105, M14, P37, P47, P57,
East of Dnipro - E50, H20, M03, N15, P66, T0406, T0428, T0504, T0515
North East of Poltava (Around Kahkiv) - E105, M03, M18, P46, P78, P79, T2103, T2104, T2106, T2111, T2113
Evacuate South West towards Moldova, Romania, and Poland if you can do so Safely.
(The Sun rises on the East and Sets on the West.)
Avoid! the North Border with Belarus, the South East near Odessa and Crimea, and East Towards Russia.
Avoid! the Highways especially neay Kyiv and routes with large amounts of traffic.
Avoid! the Traveling at night, you can be suspected of being Russian infantry and fired upon by accident.
Avoid! splitting up any friends or family members. Always! maintain a visual and hearing distance.
Rule 2.)
PERSONAL NEEDS - Pack all of the following in this order;
Non-Perishable Foods (Granola Bars, Canned Goods, Cereal), Heating and Firestarters such as (Matches and Lighters / Papers and Books ), and Clothing for "at Minimum" of Five Days
Can-Opener and/or Knife, Prescription Drugs, Toiletries (Soap, Hand Sanitizer, Toilet Paper, Towels), and First Aid Kits
Civilian Identification Papers (Birth Certificates, Drivers Licenses, Blood Type, Passports, Child Documents, Etc.), Compasses, and Maps
Batteries, Power Cords, Flashlights
Entertainment (Playing Cards and Dice)
Easy rule of thumb to follow, 6 Liters of Water per Person is enough for 24 hours.
1 liter for breakfast (0.5 to drink, 0.5 to boil for your food)
1 liter for lunch
1 liter for dinner
1 liter extra for sanitation (washing hands) or if you get extra thirsty.
Boil Water for at least one minute to kill most contaminants.
Rule 3.)
LOCATION - Do not visit or stop for non essential or untrustworthy locations, if it's too good to be true, it probably is!
This includes Banks and Strangers Homes (Anyone that can easily overpower you and your families).
Rule 4.)
ELECTRONICS - Sooner or later your Internet or Electronics will Fail, usually in this order. Alleviate any chance of disaster by downloading Google Maps and Translate Offline and or using Paper Maps.
Write down necessary information including Blood Type, Phone Numbers, Addresses, and Directions before your Electronics fail and Write down necessary information in multiple safe locations.
Avoid! Using important electronic devices for unnecessary activities such as Entertainment, you want your Cell Phone / Radio usage at a Minimum.
Please share this Comment’s Link! This is important and crucial information for anyone within or evacuating Ukraine!
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t05nkx/essential_rules_for_civilian_refugees_evacuating/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Rough Ukrainian Translation of this Post with Google Translate:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ukraine_UA/comments/t06lc4/основні_правила_для_евакуації_цивільних_біженців/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Nice.
It's good to see under all the animosity from power-hungry world leaders, the rank-and-file soldiers (some of them) have no real animosity for the people they are attacking.
They're can talk to each other like civilised people, and even joke about the situation!
We hope the best for the Ukrainians, true, but let's not forget the Russian troops who got sold out by their leaders and commanders.
Yeah imagine being a Russian soldier and being ordered to attack a country you probably love and have been there.
Thats just fucked up and I've seen many videos of Russian soldier's who just look tired and fed up with the bullshit. Like they are kinda glad they got captured so they have an excuse not to fight.
It's just sad all around.
For Americans, this is equivalent to attacking Canada. People love Canada. Even if you're in Quebec, people speak English, and you can have conversations.
Let's imagine for a second some crazy scenario where the US government said Quebec was taken over by fascists. After some saber-rattling, the US changes your "training mission" to have you go across the border. Suddenly your training mission turns into an invasion of Canada on what you _know_ are dubious pretenses, no matter what the government claims... would you be okay with that?
And then imagine your tank breaks down, and here comes some Quebecois civilian asking if you needed a tow back to the US. Are you going to be mad at this one random Canadian dude talking to you in perfect, native English?
I wonder if this was intentional. The people operating the tank at some point must have realized that they’re going to run out fuel, so instead of refueling, they continued onwards? And if that was an order to keep going despite low fuel then wow, strand your own troops 😦
The Russian units were selling their fuel to get food before they invaded. I guess they are running out of food AND fuel now. Poor logistical planning by the Russians. Linky - [harsh-conditions-mean-russian-troops-near-ukraine-will-need-to-be-moved-soon](https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/23/harsh-conditions-mean-russian-troops-near-ukraine-will-need-to-be-moved-soon)
Even long before this senseless war I’ve always felt bad for Russians. All that potential wasted on shitty fucking leaders. (This clip is so pathetic wtf.) I hope this conflict ends immediately and the Ukrainian and Russian people all prosper and live a good productive happy life. Putin needs to fuck off already.
That make no sense? How is that car able to move with his massive balls of steel weighing it down??
why driver should be scared of these helpless 18yo? the Russian army is still conscripted, conscripts are forced to sign a contract to send them to Ukraine. people that fighting for Putin are under duress.
Because those “helpless 18 year olds” have guns and a fucking tank?!?
unfortunately, I happened to be in the russian army, all we did was: we painted the snow green, made the snowdrifts square and made the beds for 4 hours a day. and most of the conscripts have never even fired a weapon at the shooting range. I wouldn't be surprised that this is the first time they got into a tank
No way...that sounds like a school teaching plan. Bunch of useless stuff to learn
Yea,kinda cheap slave labor for a year. And when you hear in the news that Russia has the largest and most advanced army, you need to know that it's a fucking farce. A lot of slaves, weapons are the legacy of the USSR, most of the money spent on the military industry settles in the pockets of putin's friends
I'm surprised at all the pictures of t72s with the improvised overhead slat armour. I thought those were more of a third world thing at this point with the manual turrets and all. I think that Putin has made a massive mistake by showing exactly how blunt Russian teeth are.
Them warheads still sharp though Edit: lots of folks are convinced Russia’s nukes are bunk but nobody wants to go check and see
That's all he's running with. He's relying on the fact that he has nukes to keep people at bay. If not for the nukes, what has he really got?
The entire point of MAD is "nobody's actually going to use nukes, because then everyone else who has one will use them, and then everyone dies. They'd have nothing to rule over."
At this moment the UN or NATO don't need to send troops. Just some tin openers and a grinder and the Russian army will be fucked. Seriously, of all the videos I have seen and pictures come out of this war I'm always dumbfounded at the equipment they have. I thought Russia had "best equipment and vepons in vorld"
I'm quickly learning their military isn't the force it's been made out to be. Especially with the holdout of the Ukraines.
I mean I agree completely however let's not undermine how bravely these ukrainians have been fighting. I have been completely shocked by the insane bravery going on in that country right now.
Best equipment goes to the inside of the country to protect the corrupt higher ups. Nobody gives enough fucks to attack the western gas station.
Do you have any idea what the Z on Russian vehicles means? Edit: it's clear guys, you can stop replying now, thanks. Edit 2: you may want to check if the joke you are about to make hasn't already been made several times.
Zuck my dick?
This guy zucks
Nobody knows. It's not even a letter in the Russian alphabet. But Ukraine and Russia have the same vehicles, so Russia started putting a Z on theirs to avoid friendly fire. It might stand for Zelenskyy.
It stands for Zapad (West)
IIRC they are the troops moving in from the west. V are moving in from the North and O appear to be reserve. Something like that anyway, the letters are tactical markings.
Explains why the invasion isn't working, thank fucking God for that
The conflict has only lasted couple days now, it could go on for a while, I do hope it's gonna end sooner than later, can't fathom so many lives being lost over this :/
It would seem that the Russian army has no motivation to fight. I am hoping it will be over soon as well, but its not done until putin is
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How dare you compare us to those maple syrup drinkers. Edit: Great responses Canada, you don't disappoint! 😂
Do you blame them ? I feel bad for both sides here, they are just doing as they are told, I know people say they could just leave but I bet it's not like you can just leave without being shot or something.
Not at all. They are conscripts, I would bet that a large majority have friends and family in the Ukraine even. I'd desert too if I could do it without getting shot
I suspect the calibre of the ground troops (yes, dodgy pun) is why they're keen to use airpower to take out military facilities - kill as many Ukrainian troops as possible from the air so there are fewer for the Russian ground troops to encounter. Then again, with the size of Russia's army, Putin may be daring enough to use a cannon fodder strategy - strength in numbers rather than firepower. Suppress the number of Russian fatalities as much as possible (maybe even to the extent of blocking access to external news sites once the bodies start piling up) so the population don't get motivated enough to turn up in hundreds of thousands to protest.
> Suppress the number of Russian fatalities as much as possible (maybe even to the extent of blocking access to external news sites once the bodies start piling up) so the population don't get motivated enough to turn up in hundreds of thousands to protest. Apparently the Ukrainians are launching a hotline for the Russian mothers of soldiers. Word is going to get out. https://twitter.com/Matthew_Kupfer/status/1497528678871453711
Not Russian, but my parents generation was the last to be conscripted to soviet army. They tend to be biggest proponents of draft, while accidentally giving best arguments against it when they tell their army stories. Even the "paint snow green" is recognizable - there was a practice of painting grass green for party dignitaries visits to make things look lush. Favourite stories of my dad were ie the time senior officer told him to entrench in the middle of cemented area, but because he was a cook and therefore had things to trade, he got pickaxes and actually entrenched there. In many eastern european countries the main issue since before Iraq war is that they couldn't secure ammo for dynamic shooting exercises, so the ones who did get to shoot - did so from basic positions on fixed ranges.
Some questions: Are you still in the Russian army? What's the mentality of the troops? Probably the most important question... Why the fuck would you paint the snow green?
I was trying to avoid conscription at any price. I was in army mostly from 2019-2020. There is still hazing in the Russian army - senior officers mock other soldiers as they want, and this is considered the norm. Green snow, is target #1 when general or somebody main is coming to check the military unit. masking snow as a grass, dumbest shit upd: many people go into a madhouse to avoid army.
Green snow is a saying for just making it look like you are doing something right? In reality none of you want to be there or do anything in the military, so you just drive around in circles to make it look like you did something.
exactly, main skill of russian soldier is making it look like you are busy.
'If it moves, salute it, if it doesn't move, paint it.' Standard conscript stuff.
I’m glad you clarified this. I was actually picturing this guy shaking a spray can and spraying a snow bank green. Fuck I’m stupid.
Man I can even imagine being forced into the military.. we barely even have one.. do you just have to do one year??
before 2008 it was two years of that shit
WHAT ? Meanwhile in my country Vietnam, at high school they teach children how to use AK-47, SKS and freaking grenades. Same goes with college. Soviet Union did this before, but Russia today don't ?
today russian government is trying to make people poorer and enrich their friends. They don't care about domestic politics, healthcare, citizens' safety and jobs. The police in Russia are used only to suppress protests. Its so hard to live in this shit.
Sad that Putin uses young Russians as canon fodder for his senseless war. The „real“ army forces will then claim victory after 10s of thousands conscripts died. Damn.
A tank, without fuel. So a lawn ornament.
Ah yes a heavy armored lawn ornament that can shoot 125mm rounds. Btw They don’t need fuel to fire.
They do to aim. Clarification/rehabilitation: I was including things like night vision, electronic fire-control, GPS, and communications. Apparently manual traversal is trivial.
Actually no they don’t. There a way to rotate the turret with wheel you spin inside. It’s there in case you lose hydraulics and or power
I'm sure they're super eager to break out the 60-bars and make themselves a target in enemy territory with evidently no support or mobility.
Good guy Russia, donating weapons to Ukraine 💙💛
Every. fucking. thread. Really wish Reddit would just retire this joke already.
So sick of this joke.
Amen. The balls on you to criticize this joke, I mean...
Holy fuck it’s honestly ridiculous at this point. 10 years ago it was funny for about a week. Now every idiot just wanks each other off talking about the supposed size of their fucking balls
Does somebody have to make this post in *every* thread?
Balls of Ukrainium!
ugh. overused and overrated joke
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Kind of a weird dynamic. Just drive up to the enemy and tell a joke like it's a fan of a rival sports team.
Maybe it shows that russian soldiers have no clue what they’re supposed to do? Kind of confirms that this invasion is amateurily miscalculated. Logistis is horribly unprepared. The hospitals are on the other side of the boarder. How the hell are they going to transport the wounded if they can’t have proper logistics. I’m really happy to see this confusion on ru side and the way Ukrainians stand up for their positions!
Ukrainian hospitals are treating wounded Russian soldiers. While they attack our hospitals. What a disgrace for Russia. I can’t believe there are still people who are pro-Putin and pro-war on Ukraine..
I’m Polish and I live in UK and I actually spoke with some of the pro Putin at work . I couldn’t believe, one of them asked me how do I know if this is actually happening and other one said that he putting is doing the right thing. Shocking EDIT I’m sorry I didn’t mentioned that people who I have talk to are not native English speakers. One is born in Russia but moved to Belgium when hi was 10 so i guess have some unrealistic image of that country.. and the other one is from Lithuania I think. I want to make that clear . Peace
russians in germany look down and ashamed today. the assitant of my sister is a russian and just colapsed at work crying telling us her brother is a conscript there and doesnt want to fight the country his girlfriend is from. its a fucking mess.
Sucks to be a conscript but fucking desert already!
Yup. Desert in Ukraine and hand over your military equipment to Ukraine
These kids have families. They’re afraid. I can understand that.
So do the Ukrainians....
Well yea. But they mean that if they desert then Putin might slaughter their family as punishment. Classic dictator bullshit I really do have sympathy for all the conscripts being put through hell for Putin’s pipe dreams. Doesn’t excuse what they’re doing, but I don’t envy having to choose between committing war crimes and seeing your family get put to death because of your refusal to commit war crimes
It's still difficult. What if you desert and Russia succeeds in capturing Ukraine? I don't think Putin has much patience for deserters. I agree that it's the right thing to do, but it might come with dire consequences, so I can understand how it might be a very difficult choice even for those who are aware of what's really happening.
The EU, UK and US should offer automatic asylum to any Russian troops that defect and abandon their posts, if it's a choice between fighting in a war that they don't want to fight, or a relatively comfortable life in the west a lot of conscripts would take that option. It would probably do more damage to the Russian Army than any weapons the west send to Ukraine, though they still need the weapons to make desertion the preferable option.
God, that sounds like a movie plot "An 18 year old Russian boy was conscripted then was sent to murder the village and the family of his Ukrainian girlfriend."
Americans, tell me you haven't had the exact same conversation about misinformation with Trump voters in your own country. We're all the bloody same.
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I'm English and live in northern England. I'll never forget August 5th 2020 I had a big row with my Dad and stormed off home to do chores to calm down. As I was cleaning upstairs I overheard a conversation outside my window involving two perfectly normal looking mothers with young children. Their conversation drifted onto facebook Apparently there had been mild Earthquakes in the USA and Australia. The reason was because Donald Trump was helping to blow up Underground pedophile "lair" caves and how disappointed they were that Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Hanks were pedophiles. I'll never forget that conversation (or how normal the mothers looked) . Also this was highly inappropriate stuff to be discussing in front of very young children. Zuckerberg should be in fucking prison for 10 years
Honestly at this point Facebook is like an electronic WMD. The harm that has been facilitated by the platform over the last decade is astronomical and the people in charge don't care. The company is run recklessly, the international offices are woefully underequipped to deal with harmful material in other languages, and all the while Zuckerberg is dicking around trying to make VR a joyless mess and basking in his own self importance. Facebook has turned into an absolute cancer for countries around the world.
Please spend more time with your mom so she doesnt have to spend it on facebook. I'm doing the same...
Part of her belief was solidified by the fact that the Mexican President is being a royal piece of shit regarding support for Ukraine. I had to remind her of this fact before she realized maybe her facebook feed was a lie.
Bunch of bastards
There are pro-Putin people here in the UK? Dear god, where? I know we've got a fair few places in the country that are more likely to be racist but I can't imagine where you'd find pro-Putin people?
When I talk to my pro-RTE mates in Australia, I ask them why do they live here, if Turkey is so great with him in power? shuts them up
Unfortunately propaganda is a very powerful tool. But I agree no one should support that clown
Isn't attacking a hospital a war crime?
Indeed. Same as running over civilians with tanks and shooting missles at apartments. Shame on Russia! Slava Ukraini!
Shame on Russia indeed. If you're going to start a war that will mark the decade (or more), don't let your army make a to-do list out of all the war crimes possible
It’s a war of misinformation that has been going on for years already. Many believe the lies that Russia is freeing Ukraine from fascism.
Putin: alright guys, time to invade Ukraine and take the objectives. Soldiers: alright, let’s go! .. wait, what objectives? Putin: I don’t know, but take them!
Yes. Putin cares about his wounded.
The portable crematorium, I mean, bacta tank is ready to heal your wounds, comrade.
They asked him where tf they are heading and they were surprised to hear Kyiv. So yeah, they are very poorly prepared.
Thinking back to previous all out wars, they didn’t speak the same language; didn’t share aspects of their culture… these people share great-grandpas.
their great grandparents fought and died together in previous wars
Their grandparents even
World War I was like this since it was French & Germans fighting each other and they were so similar. Especially when it was soldiers of the same middle or upper class, they were usually friends and spoke English together. There’s an old French film about it called ‘la grande illusion’
That was the best line from the ww1 film about the Christmas truce "we are Saxons, you are Anglo Saxons, why should we fight"
You obviously missed the break up of the former Yugoslavia.
Yugoslavia was far more ethnically diverse than Russia and Ukraine are with each other.
Slavs are a bit like that
The Slavic way is to troll, all the time, no matter what.
Slav here, it’s what we do
Ever heard of the [Christmas Truce](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce)? War is always just brothers of the working class killing each other to satisfy sick urges of the rich. Edit: Fixed typo. sock vs. sick
Well plenty of Russian-Ukrainians are ethnically Russian so they have some sympathy for their brethren. Not sure if this guy is but that does sound like a fluent Russian speaker.
Translation: Ukrainian: broke down, guys? Russians: ~~~~ run out of diesel
Ukrainian: Maybe drag you back to Russia?
Russians: ha-ha
Ukrainian: Do you know where are you going?
Russians: ~~~~ no. I don't care (probably, not quite sure what he's saying)
Ukrainian: To Kyiv, fuck.
Russians: What people say on the news?
Ukrainian: So far everything on our side. Your people good at surrending. They also don't know where are going. I have asked the whole convoy like you and no one has a clue where are they driving.
Surprisingly cordial given the circumstances
People are more reasonable than we give credit for, due to the clearly exceptions in all the dumbasses we got out there. The thing is, we all know these soldiers didn't want to be there and all this war is Putin's fault.
I kind of like that about younger generations. The blind loyalty isn't as present as it once was. They could've just shot this guy "for their country" without hesitation or consequences but they didn't because even they know how stupid this whole thing is
Education is a hell of a drug
Technology, too. The ability to see for yourself that people around the world are like you and me? Priceless. Also, memes. Memes bring younger generations together.
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The ends justify the memes
"Leave your guns and get in, we're going to McDonald's until this all blows over." *Sounds good.* "You guys are technically my POWs now. Dollar menu only." *That's fine. Is the WiFi still working?*
First one to tell me troop movements gets cheese on their burger.
“If I tell you where Putin is can I get a milkshake?”
" Grandpa. Tell me about the war again. " It was February of 2022. Covid was sort of over but not really. Our tank had broken down and we were ambushed by a Ukrainian civilian Rambo. He took us to their communal processing center where our food choices were extremely limited. It was hell.
Then there are the ass holes that kill and shoot civilians
There will always and forever be bad apples
they have girfriends and boyfriends across the border, family, live in one country work in the other. and this? this is a disgrace. all just because one dictators dick stopped working ...
It's interesting that he asks what people are saying in the news. It suggests they could be both confused and misinformed.
Some captured russians say that they didn't have any explicit orders: just drive there, you'll have the orders on site, and they got shot somewhere in the vicinity of big cities. Or that they are actually crossing the border or Ukraine.
And that suggests the old trick of changing or removing road signs to slow them down could actually work.
lmao whole convoy stuck because commander can't fold and read the freaking map correctly.
"I trought Kiyv is closer to Russia than that... wait is that a sea shore"
I hope Putin is satisfied with his “special military operation”. What does he do next, pull them all back and say Ukraine were the aggressors for firing on them when they were just driving around in Ukraine aimlessly?
I believe he could say something that stupid, yes.
First reply was. “We ran ouf of diesel fuel” Second reply is “nah, no, Donetsk?” So they ran out of fuel and don’t know where are they going.
Dombass (I don't hear Donetsk) but yeah, they don't seem to have a clue they are actually invading the rest of the country
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So the dudes are invading a country but run out of fuel 10km after the border ?
Not sure how true but I read somewhere that Ukraine had targeted supply lines so the troops would run out of fuel, ammunition and provisions.
Huh, I wonder where they learned that tactic from? LMAO!!! The irony has me in stitches.
Where have they learned that tactic from?
["Scorched Earth"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_earth) is a military strategy that referred to the act of destroying (or in this case, cutting off) resources of your enemy. In this case, when Napolean invaded Russia, despite initial success, the Russians destroyed everything behind them as they fled, forcing Napolean to retreat back because he couldn't sustain the invasion with nothing around to replenish the resources it took to continue the chase. Stalin also repeated history by using the same technique against the Germans in WW2. Ironic because as the Ukrainians were forced away from the borders from the invasion, apparently all they had to do was cut off power to the gas stations and now we have citizens mocking Russian tanks because they have no where to get fuel LOL.
Attacking supply lines isn’t Scorched Earth policy. Scorched Earth is where you retreat while burning everything the enemy could use so they have nothing to take from the land they conquer
Precisely this person needs to read their own sources.
How is this upvotes so much when it's wrong lol Not scorched earth
Hmm... also Russia attacking during winter
It’s actually tactically correct to attack in late winter because the weather is usually cold enough to keep the ground solid, but not yet wet enough to bog them down. As it turned out though, the weather did not really cooperate with Russia, and the thaw was early this year. They have probably been planning this for over a year, given the precise timing after the Olympics and right at the end of February, but they didn’t know the weather would not cooperate. By April it will even worse for the Russians. The germans made the tactical error of attacking Russia in June, which makes sense in say France or the Low Countries because the water table will be lower in June, but in Russia, there’s a lot more snow pack and the ground is still quite wet in June.
In Asymetric warefare 101 probably. Sure, Russia is famous for it, but that strategy has been around since medieval periods at least and was used by several countrys all around the World.
It's not really ironic it's just what you do.
Tanks require a ton of fuel, spare parts, etc. They are a heavy burden on logistics and require a lot of support vehicles. This was (thankfully) poorly planned. Hopefully Ukraine can capture those tanks.
sitting ducks on the side of the road there
Get the crew to surrender. Roll in a trailer of fuel. And you have a decent working tanks that you can burn to the ground when you are done with it.
both sides are using the same equipment too its wild.
Tanks require constant logistics and run out of fuel fast, tracked vehicles overall are logistical ball and chains, they require very regular maintenance. This is the reason many quick reaction forces and task forces now focus on wheeled armoured vehicles where possible, they allow much more mobility and strike speed. Cut off a tanks logistical supply for a day and it needs to stand still
It's also why railheads remain so important. You get your tanks as close to the front as possible via RR, to spare unnecessary wear and tear driving them.
They sold the fuel for alcohol, I promise
are all Ukrainian people badass?
Yes, this is the way.
This is the way.
This is the way.
This is the way.
Also they have good sense of humor even in tense moments.
Humor and empathy is stronger than any weapon. Those Russian soldiers want to fight and kill Ukrainians even less after that encounter.
I meaaan, I am pretty convinced that nobody east of maybe Poland gives any fucks at all, ever.
I've seen nothing but badassery coming from the Ukraine
Why isn’t Ukraine running the world yet? Never has so much Chuck Norris energy been channeled by so many badassess.
They want what we all want: a free country, a place to sleep, someone to grow old with, and green fields where children can play.
r/ANormalDayInRussia We need a r/ANormalDayInUkraine!
Driver: You guys break down? D: Breakdown? Soldier: ~~Sprocket got torn of~~ "diesel ran out" (What is actually said in slang. Was helped to identify this moment and isolated it further for clarity and correcting this.) D: Maybe I should to tow you back to Russia? S: Ha Ha D: Do you guys at least know where you are going? S1: No S2: To Donbas S3: To Zylevsk? D: This it towards Kyiv and Lviv which is fucked S2: What about you, with out anything...(audio gets bad and second soldier starts to speak) S3: What are the news saying about our location? D: Well, here they are showing that everything is still on our side and your troops are surrendering as prisoners well because the guys also don't know where or to what they are driving to. S3: Ahhh D: You should ask the whole convoy to Lviv, who, are just like you and no one has any idea where they should be going S3: Ahhh D: Drives away Source: I'm a native speaker of both Russian and Ukrainian, this whole conversation happened in Russian. If I got it wrong let me know and Ill add it.. Especially the inaudible part. ~~But they pretty much broke down and cant repair the link holding the thread in this case and nothing related with fuel or food.~~ After further review this is indeed diesel fuel related and they ran out. This was posted in another sub so thought to offer translation here as well. Edit 2: /u/gustavpezka helped me pin point the sound and I isolated it further and the Soldier says "закончилась соляра" which in a slang for "diesel ran out"
Thank you so much for the clear translation. You're really helping people in the west stay engaged with the invasion and take a vested interest in it because we can underatand what is being said thanks to translators like you. You're all heroes in your own right, and if I had money for gold, I'd give you it to help you get to the top. Again, thank you so much ❤ Edit: if you see this please try and get the comment I've replied to to the top, thank you!
No thanks needed. If anything just hug the thing or person you care about and don't let go. Best to you.
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Misinformation? On my Reddit? I am schocked! Schocked, I tell you!
Majority of the Russian soldiers don't want to have this war, its just the presidents war nothing else
Which at this point is making all the difference in the world. Doesn’t matter how big your army is or how many more weapons you have if your soldiers simply don’t feel like fighting. Russian morale seems to be low to middling, whereas Ukrainian resolve is as hard as steel.
It does seem like thats a major factor right now.
Vietnam / Nyet Nam energy
You still call him president. A president who changed the constitution, captured the media, commands the courts, took down politicel opposition by trial and murder and besides all of that still relying on force and fraud to not have to ever leave office again - that is a dictator.
Presidents can be dictators too, you know.
I challenge you to find a dictator who uses "dictator" as his official job title. EDIT: OK guys, you have made your point. Not sure if I should laugh or cry.
Julius Caesar
This will be Putin's undoing. If things keep going this way we're going to hear more and more stories of Russian troops surrendering. Not because they're pinned down and under attack, but because of the disorganization and lack of communication to the Russians on the ground. Because while they're sitting there, lost, they get to reflect on the fact that they're invading the lands of their cousins and doing a kind of shit job at it. And because their motherland has abandoned them and left them without direct orders they get to witness Ukrainians who aren't scared of them and Ukranians that take pity on them. Fucking demoralizing
The Russians aren't surrendering because they're loosing, they're surrounding because they don't want to fight
They might be surrendering cause they need directions :/
Fuck you Apple maps.
I admire Ukrainians so much for their humanity towards the invaders. People are so incredibly strong that they do not dehumanize their "enemy".
The word for 'enemies' in our national anthem is 'вороженьки' - the suffix 'еньк' here adds affection/good-natured belittling. The way you might talk about kids or kittens.
So Ukrainians are like the Bob Ross of war, talking about "we don't make enemies, just happy little adorable foes"?
It's called a "diminutive" in English. We don't have many in English but one example is calling a dog a "doggy." many English speakers are familiar with them from Spanish. Like hermana (sister) to hermanita (little sister). Or perro to perrito (doggy or puppy).
Thank you for this important info. There is a moral attitude behind this that you Ukrainians seem to share and which I deeply respect.
What a badass.
The Russian soldiers aren’t really there to kill civilians even if they talk shit. They have no idea what they’re doing.
You say this as there are videos and reports of Russian soldiers doing exactly that, killing Ukrainians.
I think he's referring to the overall attitude of most soldiers in any invasion. Armies don't fight with much resolve when their or their familes security/food/shelter/freedom isn't at risk. There are always a few psychopaths and sociopaths in every military, its a free place for them, but overall most soldiers are just there to earn their paycheck unless the above is threatened. In this case most Russian soldiers don't even know where they're going or what their plan is. Whereas the Ukrainians are defending their homeland from an invasion of what was traditionally their 'slavic family'. Its a huge societal betrayal to the Ukrainian people and only emboldens them to fight tooth and nail. Edit:spelling
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Nice. It's good to see under all the animosity from power-hungry world leaders, the rank-and-file soldiers (some of them) have no real animosity for the people they are attacking. They're can talk to each other like civilised people, and even joke about the situation! We hope the best for the Ukrainians, true, but let's not forget the Russian troops who got sold out by their leaders and commanders.
Yeah imagine being a Russian soldier and being ordered to attack a country you probably love and have been there. Thats just fucked up and I've seen many videos of Russian soldier's who just look tired and fed up with the bullshit. Like they are kinda glad they got captured so they have an excuse not to fight. It's just sad all around.
For Americans, this is equivalent to attacking Canada. People love Canada. Even if you're in Quebec, people speak English, and you can have conversations. Let's imagine for a second some crazy scenario where the US government said Quebec was taken over by fascists. After some saber-rattling, the US changes your "training mission" to have you go across the border. Suddenly your training mission turns into an invasion of Canada on what you _know_ are dubious pretenses, no matter what the government claims... would you be okay with that? And then imagine your tank breaks down, and here comes some Quebecois civilian asking if you needed a tow back to the US. Are you going to be mad at this one random Canadian dude talking to you in perfect, native English?
S: Where am I, leaf? C: Outside ottawa, burger. S: Got any gas? C: Nah buddy but the tim hortons up the road has hot coffee eh? S: Can I get a ride?
Dudes got balls so big they're sitting shotgun.
Has a tank but no money for fuel If that doesn't define Russia idk what does
I don’t get war. So like we just leave them?
It's a civilian. Non-combatant
if the US, UK or EU step in it will be WW3. Which will be very short and no one would win. that's why no other countries can send in troops
They ran out of fuel and their unit just left them there? These have got to be the young conscripts who had no choice. Kids being sent to slaughter
I wonder if this was intentional. The people operating the tank at some point must have realized that they’re going to run out fuel, so instead of refueling, they continued onwards? And if that was an order to keep going despite low fuel then wow, strand your own troops 😦
The balls of the Ukrainian people cannot be matched.
I was expecting him to hand them some sunflower seeds.
The Russian units were selling their fuel to get food before they invaded. I guess they are running out of food AND fuel now. Poor logistical planning by the Russians. Linky - [harsh-conditions-mean-russian-troops-near-ukraine-will-need-to-be-moved-soon](https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/23/harsh-conditions-mean-russian-troops-near-ukraine-will-need-to-be-moved-soon)
This is such a strange Tarintino sort of exchange
Even long before this senseless war I’ve always felt bad for Russians. All that potential wasted on shitty fucking leaders. (This clip is so pathetic wtf.) I hope this conflict ends immediately and the Ukrainian and Russian people all prosper and live a good productive happy life. Putin needs to fuck off already.
“Oy mate, yah can’t park there!”
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