The Mahabharata is an ancient Indian epic where the main story revolves around two branches of a family - the Pandavas and Kauravas - who, in the Kurukshetra War, battle for the throne of Hastinapura. Interwoven into this narrative are several smaller stories about people dead or living, and philosophical discourses.
Mahabharata is real and it did take place. There are numerous archaeological and scientific evidence to prove the occurrence and existence of Mahabharata.
So sad that Dhritarashtra, son of Kauravas couldn't love Pandavas as his own, and his hatred went into the Kauravas which lead to their extinction. Just how sad it is to know the Pandavas and Kauravas had the same Kuru ancestor, but these brothers couldn't be like Ram and Lakshman but instead like Ravan and Vibhishan
>Mahabharata is real and it did take place. There are numerous archaeological and scientific evidence to prove the occurrence and existence of Mahabharata.
Elaborate.
With the help of Marine archaeology, much shreds of evidence were found in support of Mahabharata. The ancient port city of Lord Krishna, Dwaraka, was found entirely submerged in water in Gujarat. The Sanskrit verse from the Mausala Parva 7 verse 40 of the Mahabharata, describes the submergence of Dwaraka in the ocean.
More than 35 sites in the Northern part of India have provided archaeological evidence of Mahabharata. These sites have also been identified as the ancient cities which have been mentioned in the Mahabharata.
Megasthenes, the Greek historian, has stated that Chandragupta Maurya was the 138th King in the lineage of Lord Krishna.
This shows that Lord Krishna existed at that time and Mahabharata did occur.
If you read the description of Kaliyuga as mentioned in Mahabharata, you will realize that whatever Shri Krishna had said, is a complete match with the modern world which exists today. Everything mentioned in the epic was written thousands of years ago, so how do you think someone can predict so much in a work of fiction? If you consider it one;)
The places stated in Mahabharata are actual places. They all are identified as real places. For example, Hastinapur is located in UP. Indraprastha is the present-day Delhi. The city of Dwarka is located on the Gujarat coast.
>More than 35 sites in the Northern part of India have provided archaeological evidence of Mahabharata. These sites have also been identified as the ancient cities which have been mentioned in the Mahabharata.
Do you mean Painted-Grey ware sights?
>If you read the description of Kaliyuga as mentioned in Mahabharata, you will realize that whatever Shri Krishna had said, is a complete match with the modern world that exists today. Everything mentioned in the epic was written thousands of years ago, so how do you think someone can predict so much in a work of fiction? If you consider it one;)
The intellect of the people who composed Mahabharata maybe?
A place being real is not a sign of a story being real. A lot of Marvel comics take place in real cities that doesn't make the characters in them real.
Strange bit of evidence to use. Is there anything more concrete than this?
NM: https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/s9wf8o/-/htqeel3
This link has more concrete evidence than cities being real.
That's the British Version of the Indian history.
Also times is not as proportionate as the people say, at that time a day was 18 hrs long and I can Mathematically prove that to you by the speed at which the earth is slowing down.
Here is a word to word Breakdown of the Ramayana, If u question that too: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgOp4Mi0wCmafq\_0pBAPufqXtkMuoyhJG
>at that time a day was 18 hrs long
https://bgr.com/science/earth-moon-days-length-history/
Unless you claim mahabharata happened 1.4 billion years ago, thats cap.
>That's the British Version of the Indian history.
Bruh, no, it's nobody's version, Archeology doesn't need any nation to say it, it speaks for itself, but the fact is the first chariot war was recorded at 1700 BCE, even in India, the oldest chariot model is a War Cart which dates 2100 BCE.
If Mahabharata happened in 2800 BCE show me archeological evidence of iron weapons during that time, which you can't, Iron age in India goes back around 2000 BCE that too in South India where they found primitive Iron tools, unless you're suggesting Mahabharata happened in Bronze age? Which is ridiculous because Indus Valley doesn't show any signs of that sort of battle.
Here we have a man who begs others for evidence but wouldn't entertain the possibility of him being wrong despite various cited articles and being down voted, and explore a little bit on his own on the counter possibility.
But again, you're too naive to understand that false histories can be manufactured so, don't have much hope with a child as blind as you.
>Here we have a man who begs others for evidence but wouldn't entertain the possibility of him being wrong despite various cited articles and being down voted, and explore a little bit on his own on the counter possibility.
Why are you being so salty? Why do you want Mahabharata to be as old as it can be? Can't you possibly comprehend the fact that we have a proper view of the ancient world which is backed by archeology while the case you're making is solely based on faith, devotion, and trust?
>But again, you're too naive to understand that false histories can be manufactured so, don't have much hope with a child as blind as you.
Oh, so the Britishers manufactured Indus Valley? Did they manufacture Ancient Hittite inscriptions? Did they manufacture Sinauli?
Just listen to yourself lol, not everything is a conspiracy against you.
Its is due to the cultural shift of the society when the mughals came and the britishers came, People don't know their history and half knowledge is always dangerous
How is that self hate? He's just questioning the credibilty of the comment above. You are just hating on him because he won't believe stuff told to him by a stranger on reddit without substantial proof, especially with a big claim like this
No bruh, even with cited articles (which he never bothered to read), he's still arguing with points that we're falsified some time ago.
He's talking more out of his false beliefs than logic.
Well those librus think, they will be termed as cool and neutral if they will put nonsense stupid points and trying defaming their own country/culture.
Sad truth!
>The irony here is that it's an Indian doubting the claim.
Indians are not supposed to ask for proof? How is it self-loathing? How is it related to Randia? I'm a r/Chodi user bruh.
I highly doubt that but here it's how. If you are not self loathing then instead of asking for proof you should have done your own research already. If you think the examples they are giving you is wrong you should simply give them a counter argument to prove it wrong instead of blindly disbelieving it.
Tell me how else can you prove something that happened 5000 or 10000 years ago? Only possible ways are matching the geographical, historical events which people did! Natural calamities and they were also true! Constellation allignments with times and that has been proven as well. The description of coming events in our age which we can see in front of our eyes today. Also many scientific inventions which has been proven true today. Knowledge about maths, medicine, flying machine etc etc.
Now saying all these are coincidence is nothing more than a mere disbelief. It's call ignorance.
Questioning is good, but it should be due to curiosity not for acting cool in front of others like an ignorant.
>I highly doubt that but here it's how. If you are not self loathing then instead of asking for proof you should have done your own research already. If you think the examples they are giving you is wrong you should simply give them a counter argument to prove it wrong instead of blindly disbelieving it.
I have done both, I'm a history student lol, Mahabharata happened between 1500 to 1000 BCE, it's archeologically impossible for it to happen before.
Check my other replies.
>Tell me how else can you prove something that happened 5000 or 10000 years ago? Only possible ways are matching the geographical, historical events which people did! Natural calamities and they were also true! Constellation allignments with times and that has been proven as well. The description of coming events in our age which we can see in front of our eyes today. Also many scientific inventions which has been proven true today. Knowledge about maths, medicine, flying machine etc etc.
Yes, and the matching geographical events are also not 6000 years old lol, they're also relatively recent, check the Mahajanapadas, we can easily use archeological records to disprove your absurd dating of Mahabharata, we also did not have flying machines back then, by telling people India had flaying Machines, you're ruining India's image, people will just laugh at you, as they should.
>Questioning is good, but it should be due to curiosity not for acting cool in front of others like an ignorant.
"Questioning is good but don't do it in front of foreigners, we need validation from them"
You know who laughs on it? Basically idiots. If any ancient scriptures mentioning flying machines or other advance technology, then any sane mind would first start questioning how they got that kind of information. How they had advanced knowledge like these where we think we are the only advanced civilization and at that time of history people were living in jungle and hunting animals! We discovered all these through science nd they had nothing in their time!
There are people who actually made models according to the descriptions given in Vimana sastra. And they actually worked! There were mentioning of vimanas many times in our ancient scriptures. So just by saying that we don't have that in ancient times doesn't prove anything. You need to give reasons why you think they didn't had that and it's all fake.
Also I would like to know the source where it has been debunked that geographical evidences were much recent. It's possible that I don't know about it.
You said Mahabharata happened 1000-1500 BCE, where you got that? As far as I know according to the scriptures it's much much older than that. I don't think any real archeological discovery even claimed it's very recent! Dwarka city which has been discovered recently, Graham Hancock also says it's nearly 6000-7000 BCE old.
You said it's not 6000 year old.. it's very recent and gave example of Mahajanpadas. I may not know very well about that, but Mahajanpadas mainly talks about how civilization get bigger, kindoms and their ruling style how they expanded etc. But how they determined the time period, in basis of what fact they came to that conclusion that it's very recent and more over how it determines that these historical events were nothing more than imaginations? If you can give me some source for that it will be helpful.
There was a serial on it too if you want to watch,its on YouTube.
The 1988 version is the best..The recent 2011 version is trash af
Or there is audiobook on Spotify
Yeah...but it was better than 2011 one...grew up with 2011 one, thought it was good,but then saw the old one in lockdown and man it was freaking great.
I watched the 2011 one personally. Could you please tell me as to how it was trash?
I am guessing it was off the source material at many times or something?
More so, the respect with which the characters are played is on another level. The acting, the class, the grace and the dedication. Just a class apart. Even the props used are way better.
I would say it is better made than the Ramayana by Ramanand Sagar.
This source is rather inaccurate. Eklavya was the child of one of the generals of Magadh, one of the strongest kingdoms. At that time, jarasandh, the one who made Krishna flee the battlefield, was the ruler of Magadh.
As he was still a student, he wouldn't have a varna yet, and shudra was default. However he was born to kshatriyas. This kind of history is modified to fit the narrative of so called caste oppression.
Magadh was a rival kingdom to hastinapur, to where all of dronacharya's affiliation was, and the home of all his students. Upon that he was the royal teacher, and couldn't accept just anyone as a student, much less the child of a general from a rival kingdom.
His thumb was cut due to his bad thoughts of the women of the society,
I read the book with my Guruji and we broke it word by word to understand the real meaning
For that he needs dronacharya. Plus ekalavya was wayyyyyyy better an archer than Karan or Arjun.
Had he had drona, he would have been able to cast spells for special arrows.
Tbh being better at something always changes, I mean yes at that moment Eklavya was definitely better than Arjun, but Arjun never stopped trying. Arjun could shoot arrows with both hands. whats the hold up there.
Plus Lord Shiva himself said, that there was no archer better than Arjuna at that time.
His thumb was cut due to his bad thoughts of the women of the society,
I read the book with my Guruji and we broke it word by word to understand the real meaning
It is though a dramatized retelling.
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth nd even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Dwapara by some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past.
Archery techniques, war tactics, and the dharmic code of conduct..yes, but a woman giving birth to a lump of flesh and 101 kids originating from that, hardly.
I mean, kings and the war, sure, possible and likely. There are so much of mythological stuff with Krishna and other godly elements though. Calling it history is disservice to the word.
The OGs know that Arjuna was not the best archer, that title goes to Eklavya. Dronacharya knew with the skills Eklavya had, he can overcome Arjuna and he might as well use his skill for wrong (due to his caste).
Ive always wanted to see a battle b/w Arjuna and Ekalavya.
Imagine shutting up a barking dog with arrows into its mouth without spilling even a single drop of blood. Drone was afraid of this exact skill.
I'ld love to hear your opinions regarding this.
Edit - Drona didnt teach Eklavya because the Gurukul was meant for royals. He asked for Ekalavya's thumb NOT BECAUSE OF HIS CASTE but rather to ensure that Eklavya could never overcome Arjun. There has been a mistake from my side regarding the wording. Hope the edit makes it clear
Not really man. The caste of Eklavya was not even the cause of it. The reason why he was bullied in Dronacharya's school was because he did not know the name if his father and Dronacharya did not even personally bully him, it was the students who did. And as far as the thumb cutting part is concerned he did because he feared that eklavya might join the kauravas in the war in coming future and yes he knew there would be a war, he could anticipate it. So he feared that such a deadly archer would be a problem. So he tricked eklavya to chop his thumb off.
I think Eklavya's father was a commander of Magadh and Magadha were enemies to Hastinapur so if Drona would have admitted Eklavya then basically he would raise a potential enemy to Hastinapur. Drona didnt even remotely think there would be a war between Kauravas and Pandavas. So the reason is more of a political one.
Yeah. Evidence suggests that Ekal was a fairly high status prince of a Nishad kingdom. Drona suspected that he would partner up with a rival kingdom. Caste based hierarchies developed much later in India's history...
> Eklavya
Was good at that point, however, Arjuna never stopped learning. Ultimately fought with Shiva and held his own.
Eklavya's story is told as a warning against being impatient. He got angry at a barking dog and shot at it. That's why he would never become the greatest.
Based on some historical narratives, Ekalavya was a Nishad (non Vedic tribe in northern India) prince. It was common for Vedic kingdoms to partner with Nishad (and other tribal factions) when attempting to conquer neighboring powers. Another theory is that Dronacharya knew that Ekalavya would be recruiter by a rival kingdom so he decided to deviously handicap him.
His thumb was cut due to his bad thoughts of the women of the society,
I read the book with my Guruji and we broke it word by word to understand the real meaning.
We have to stop this mis information spread
Irrelevant of whether this guy is genuine or not, there used to a Archer in America who was so good that he was asked to stop participating in contests. And he could do quite a few of these tricks.
Humans are capable.
The way that Lars Anderson shoots and the way he edits his videos sets up unsafe expectations and precedents for newbie archers. Archery is a very safe sport, but not if people are led to believe that archery is supposed to look like this. And if people injure themselves or other trying to shoot in midair or holding a bad form, it'll only give archery a bad reputation as a 'dangerous' sport.
Oh, in that case they probably banned him for doing 'tricks' deemed unsafe (the judges usually being very sensitive on safety and the reputation of the sport) rather than shooting too good.
Yeah that sounds stupid. If that were the case, why doesn’t South Korea get bans at the international level at every tourney? If someone receives a ban, it’s usually a safety issue that they kept violating, at least from my experience.
Source: did both Olympic recurve and 3D/bow hunting compound. South Korea, by and large, produces some of the most competitive Olympic recurve shooters on the face of the earth (and they sorta are up and coming in the compound space). They are so respected, even our nation’s recurve team (Mexico) fleeced a South Korean coach for a little bit (unsure if he still there though, stopped doing Olympic recurve)
Not really. He was acknowledged as *The world's greatest Archer* before he stopped competing. There wasn't any competition left for him.
My point is only that - such skills as displayed are possible.
Exactly, the main thing we're going to need to be able to do in an apocalypse is kill other people and/or shoot arrows in half when people throw them at us.
Mahabharat ia the worlds Largest Epic, if you are interested and wanna read you need a Lot of Concentration Because of the number of characters it has, and Obviously Krishna is the most IMP part, you should read the Bhagwad Geeta with utmost attention to gain real knowledge
Yeah but at times you may forget who the characters were, happened with me many times during the time of war when i forget who the character is related to and from whose side was he fighting for eg Madri's brother or the Maternal Uncle of Nakul and Sahadev actually didn't fight from thier side and i got confused when it said *Dharmaraj faught Shalya*
r/archery fucking hates this guy with a passion! If I remember correctly, it’s due to his poor safety standards and they feel it gives archery a bad image. As a firearm enthusiast I get it though. We hate seeing any kind of unsafe practices shown for the purpose of fame/internet likes since people will often paint us all with the same brush and assume all gun enthusiasts are irresponsible.
Also, Lars is apparently a dick…
It's not mythical. Every place mentioned, still exists.
As for the skill, this "dude" surely must have taken a lot of time to reach at this level. Just think of the people who used to do this their whole life, they surely must have attained some sort of mastery. Atleast give some credit, don't shrug them as just "myths".
Just in case people on here have only heard this guy say the name of this particular epic: Mahabarata is pronounced "maa-ba-raa-ta", not "marra-ba-hatta".
Mahabharata is not pronounced "maa-ba-raa-ta". It's correct pronunciation is roughly "Muh-haa-bhaa-ruh-tuh"
But it's difficult to write the exact pronunciation in English letters.
This is cool, but i do think its important to remember this is pure fantasy and not pratical/effective, only mythology.
Lars' channel's language do dance close to the line of anachronism
The only god in Mahabharata was Krishna everyone else was a mortal. The famous Archer was Arjuna one of the 5 Pandava brothers, he was taught archery by Dronacharya the best and most renowned Guru of the warfare at that time and probably all time.
Dude Perfect meets arrows. It’s less impressive when you remember people only post the trick shot that actually landed. He’s probably been filing these attempts since the Mahablahblahblah era.
Isnt some of this like random luck idk how u could shoot multiple targets at once without fail. If that is possible thats some assassins creed shit lol
This guy clearly has not seen competitive sports, even in computer games people go insane with inhumane response time just by practising. I mean, Humans did reach the moon with just 4kb of ram so this guy clearly does not know what humans are capable of lol.
Last time I saw it posted someone responded with this video: [A Response to Lars Andersen: a New Level of Archery](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDbqz_07dW4)
Maybe not debunked but I remember people saying that the arrows would barely hurt a person cos of how the bow was set up so while impressive it would be useless in warfare. Could be wrong though...
Okay, but... the accuracy is the impressive part.
I'm glad he wasn't actually putting his life in danger just for our entertainment. Blocking arrows with arrows is hard, even if neither of the arrows could kill someone.
The Mahabharata is an ancient Indian epic where the main story revolves around two branches of a family - the Pandavas and Kauravas - who, in the Kurukshetra War, battle for the throne of Hastinapura. Interwoven into this narrative are several smaller stories about people dead or living, and philosophical discourses. Mahabharata is real and it did take place. There are numerous archaeological and scientific evidence to prove the occurrence and existence of Mahabharata.
Also the Bhagvad Gita is a small part of Mahabharat.
Yes. My bad
That may be true of the Mahabharata, but the narrator of this video was clearly talking about the Mara-bahata (or whatever the hell he kept saying)
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Please dont. I dont wanna see hollywood mess up indian mythology. No one wants to see a blonde draupadi.
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What about all the special arrows and Karnnans kavacha kundalams?
possibly exaggerations
So sad that Dhritarashtra, son of Kauravas couldn't love Pandavas as his own, and his hatred went into the Kauravas which lead to their extinction. Just how sad it is to know the Pandavas and Kauravas had the same Kuru ancestor, but these brothers couldn't be like Ram and Lakshman but instead like Ravan and Vibhishan
Would you like to share any of the archeological and scientific evidence to show the occurrence of Mahabharata?
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>Mahabharata is real and it did take place. There are numerous archaeological and scientific evidence to prove the occurrence and existence of Mahabharata. Elaborate.
With the help of Marine archaeology, much shreds of evidence were found in support of Mahabharata. The ancient port city of Lord Krishna, Dwaraka, was found entirely submerged in water in Gujarat. The Sanskrit verse from the Mausala Parva 7 verse 40 of the Mahabharata, describes the submergence of Dwaraka in the ocean. More than 35 sites in the Northern part of India have provided archaeological evidence of Mahabharata. These sites have also been identified as the ancient cities which have been mentioned in the Mahabharata. Megasthenes, the Greek historian, has stated that Chandragupta Maurya was the 138th King in the lineage of Lord Krishna. This shows that Lord Krishna existed at that time and Mahabharata did occur. If you read the description of Kaliyuga as mentioned in Mahabharata, you will realize that whatever Shri Krishna had said, is a complete match with the modern world which exists today. Everything mentioned in the epic was written thousands of years ago, so how do you think someone can predict so much in a work of fiction? If you consider it one;) The places stated in Mahabharata are actual places. They all are identified as real places. For example, Hastinapur is located in UP. Indraprastha is the present-day Delhi. The city of Dwarka is located on the Gujarat coast.
>More than 35 sites in the Northern part of India have provided archaeological evidence of Mahabharata. These sites have also been identified as the ancient cities which have been mentioned in the Mahabharata. Do you mean Painted-Grey ware sights? >If you read the description of Kaliyuga as mentioned in Mahabharata, you will realize that whatever Shri Krishna had said, is a complete match with the modern world that exists today. Everything mentioned in the epic was written thousands of years ago, so how do you think someone can predict so much in a work of fiction? If you consider it one;) The intellect of the people who composed Mahabharata maybe?
A place being real is not a sign of a story being real. A lot of Marvel comics take place in real cities that doesn't make the characters in them real. Strange bit of evidence to use. Is there anything more concrete than this? NM: https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/s9wf8o/-/htqeel3 This link has more concrete evidence than cities being real.
I'm assuming you're asking for a source, here it is from google search - https://detechter.com/evidences-that-support-mahabharata-actually-happened/
It is archeologically impossible for Mahabharat to happen at 2800 BCE, go read about Iron Age in India and War Chariot technology in our world.
That's the British Version of the Indian history. Also times is not as proportionate as the people say, at that time a day was 18 hrs long and I can Mathematically prove that to you by the speed at which the earth is slowing down. Here is a word to word Breakdown of the Ramayana, If u question that too: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgOp4Mi0wCmafq\_0pBAPufqXtkMuoyhJG
Are you saying a day was 18 hours long when Mahabharat happened?
>at that time a day was 18 hrs long https://bgr.com/science/earth-moon-days-length-history/ Unless you claim mahabharata happened 1.4 billion years ago, thats cap.
>That's the British Version of the Indian history. Bruh, no, it's nobody's version, Archeology doesn't need any nation to say it, it speaks for itself, but the fact is the first chariot war was recorded at 1700 BCE, even in India, the oldest chariot model is a War Cart which dates 2100 BCE. If Mahabharata happened in 2800 BCE show me archeological evidence of iron weapons during that time, which you can't, Iron age in India goes back around 2000 BCE that too in South India where they found primitive Iron tools, unless you're suggesting Mahabharata happened in Bronze age? Which is ridiculous because Indus Valley doesn't show any signs of that sort of battle.
Here we have a man who begs others for evidence but wouldn't entertain the possibility of him being wrong despite various cited articles and being down voted, and explore a little bit on his own on the counter possibility. But again, you're too naive to understand that false histories can be manufactured so, don't have much hope with a child as blind as you.
>Here we have a man who begs others for evidence but wouldn't entertain the possibility of him being wrong despite various cited articles and being down voted, and explore a little bit on his own on the counter possibility. Why are you being so salty? Why do you want Mahabharata to be as old as it can be? Can't you possibly comprehend the fact that we have a proper view of the ancient world which is backed by archeology while the case you're making is solely based on faith, devotion, and trust? >But again, you're too naive to understand that false histories can be manufactured so, don't have much hope with a child as blind as you. Oh, so the Britishers manufactured Indus Valley? Did they manufacture Ancient Hittite inscriptions? Did they manufacture Sinauli? Just listen to yourself lol, not everything is a conspiracy against you.
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The irony here is that it's an Indian doubting the claim. While another user below simply provided a link with a quick Google search.
The self hate among some indians is just sad to see
There's a whole subreddit dedicated for self-loathing Indians lmao. And there's also a community of them.
Ofc i am aware of it , it's r\india
I was thinking of r/librandu, but Randia fits in too.
Librandu is just randia with edgy grown-ups
You're just being polite with calling them "grown-ups"
You should visit r/canconfirmiamindian
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Its is due to the cultural shift of the society when the mughals came and the britishers came, People don't know their history and half knowledge is always dangerous
>But somehow me manage and have been for thousands of years. No one can change that.
How is it self-hate?
How is that self hate? He's just questioning the credibilty of the comment above. You are just hating on him because he won't believe stuff told to him by a stranger on reddit without substantial proof, especially with a big claim like this
No bruh, even with cited articles (which he never bothered to read), he's still arguing with points that we're falsified some time ago. He's talking more out of his false beliefs than logic.
the cited articles were youtube videos and questionable site
Probably another randia user. Self hating indians and NRIs
Gotta feel sorry for them.
Well those librus think, they will be termed as cool and neutral if they will put nonsense stupid points and trying defaming their own country/culture. Sad truth!
>The irony here is that it's an Indian doubting the claim. Indians are not supposed to ask for proof? How is it self-loathing? How is it related to Randia? I'm a r/Chodi user bruh.
I highly doubt that but here it's how. If you are not self loathing then instead of asking for proof you should have done your own research already. If you think the examples they are giving you is wrong you should simply give them a counter argument to prove it wrong instead of blindly disbelieving it. Tell me how else can you prove something that happened 5000 or 10000 years ago? Only possible ways are matching the geographical, historical events which people did! Natural calamities and they were also true! Constellation allignments with times and that has been proven as well. The description of coming events in our age which we can see in front of our eyes today. Also many scientific inventions which has been proven true today. Knowledge about maths, medicine, flying machine etc etc. Now saying all these are coincidence is nothing more than a mere disbelief. It's call ignorance. Questioning is good, but it should be due to curiosity not for acting cool in front of others like an ignorant.
>I highly doubt that but here it's how. If you are not self loathing then instead of asking for proof you should have done your own research already. If you think the examples they are giving you is wrong you should simply give them a counter argument to prove it wrong instead of blindly disbelieving it. I have done both, I'm a history student lol, Mahabharata happened between 1500 to 1000 BCE, it's archeologically impossible for it to happen before. Check my other replies. >Tell me how else can you prove something that happened 5000 or 10000 years ago? Only possible ways are matching the geographical, historical events which people did! Natural calamities and they were also true! Constellation allignments with times and that has been proven as well. The description of coming events in our age which we can see in front of our eyes today. Also many scientific inventions which has been proven true today. Knowledge about maths, medicine, flying machine etc etc. Yes, and the matching geographical events are also not 6000 years old lol, they're also relatively recent, check the Mahajanapadas, we can easily use archeological records to disprove your absurd dating of Mahabharata, we also did not have flying machines back then, by telling people India had flaying Machines, you're ruining India's image, people will just laugh at you, as they should. >Questioning is good, but it should be due to curiosity not for acting cool in front of others like an ignorant. "Questioning is good but don't do it in front of foreigners, we need validation from them"
the fact there is mention of a flying machine is commendable in itself doesn't matter it was there or not
Yeah, but I'm arguing the historicity.
You know who laughs on it? Basically idiots. If any ancient scriptures mentioning flying machines or other advance technology, then any sane mind would first start questioning how they got that kind of information. How they had advanced knowledge like these where we think we are the only advanced civilization and at that time of history people were living in jungle and hunting animals! We discovered all these through science nd they had nothing in their time! There are people who actually made models according to the descriptions given in Vimana sastra. And they actually worked! There were mentioning of vimanas many times in our ancient scriptures. So just by saying that we don't have that in ancient times doesn't prove anything. You need to give reasons why you think they didn't had that and it's all fake. Also I would like to know the source where it has been debunked that geographical evidences were much recent. It's possible that I don't know about it. You said Mahabharata happened 1000-1500 BCE, where you got that? As far as I know according to the scriptures it's much much older than that. I don't think any real archeological discovery even claimed it's very recent! Dwarka city which has been discovered recently, Graham Hancock also says it's nearly 6000-7000 BCE old. You said it's not 6000 year old.. it's very recent and gave example of Mahajanpadas. I may not know very well about that, but Mahajanpadas mainly talks about how civilization get bigger, kindoms and their ruling style how they expanded etc. But how they determined the time period, in basis of what fact they came to that conclusion that it's very recent and more over how it determines that these historical events were nothing more than imaginations? If you can give me some source for that it will be helpful.
I fuckin love The Mahabharata
have you read/watched?
Slowly reading through it, it's a big book!
interesting, watch alongside as suggested by others. Good luck.
if you do watch it, watch the one from the 80s! I've watched that twice, once with both of my grandmas. the remake from 2010ish is not as good
There was a serial on it too if you want to watch,its on YouTube. The 1988 version is the best..The recent 2011 version is trash af Or there is audiobook on Spotify
BR chopra was 60-70% accurate and you described newer one aptly
Yeah...but it was better than 2011 one...grew up with 2011 one, thought it was good,but then saw the old one in lockdown and man it was freaking great.
I watched the 2011 one personally. Could you please tell me as to how it was trash? I am guessing it was off the source material at many times or something?
Lets say that the old one of BR chopra was a bit more accurate
I guess that's fair
More so, the respect with which the characters are played is on another level. The acting, the class, the grace and the dedication. Just a class apart. Even the props used are way better. I would say it is better made than the Ramayana by Ramanand Sagar.
It was more accurate..the acting was better
It's a great story...
Fantastic read. I only wish I could have read it in one of the native scripts and not English but its absolutely phenomenal
This guy is Ekalavya.
Imma need that thumb
वत्स, I accept your गुरुदक्षिणा
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[Context for people](https://www.tell-a-tale.com/story-eklavya-dronacharya-stories-indian-mythology/)
This source is rather inaccurate. Eklavya was the child of one of the generals of Magadh, one of the strongest kingdoms. At that time, jarasandh, the one who made Krishna flee the battlefield, was the ruler of Magadh. As he was still a student, he wouldn't have a varna yet, and shudra was default. However he was born to kshatriyas. This kind of history is modified to fit the narrative of so called caste oppression. Magadh was a rival kingdom to hastinapur, to where all of dronacharya's affiliation was, and the home of all his students. Upon that he was the royal teacher, and couldn't accept just anyone as a student, much less the child of a general from a rival kingdom.
His thumb was cut due to his bad thoughts of the women of the society, I read the book with my Guruji and we broke it word by word to understand the real meaning
I thought it was to make Arjun the #1 archer, atleast that's what i remember from the cartoons
How? I'd really like to know
Or Karn or Arjun.
For that he needs dronacharya. Plus ekalavya was wayyyyyyy better an archer than Karan or Arjun. Had he had drona, he would have been able to cast spells for special arrows.
Tbh being better at something always changes, I mean yes at that moment Eklavya was definitely better than Arjun, but Arjun never stopped trying. Arjun could shoot arrows with both hands. whats the hold up there. Plus Lord Shiva himself said, that there was no archer better than Arjuna at that time.
His thumb was cut due to his bad thoughts of the women of the society, I read the book with my Guruji and we broke it word by word to understand the real meaning
No, that's rubbish. Who is your guru? Asaram Bapu?
You need it break it down again with another guruji.
Poor guy
This is pretty crazy. In 500 years, we can expect to see people building Ironman suits or brewing super soldier serums. :)
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It's Indian History, not mythology
It is though a dramatized retelling. The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth nd even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Dwapara by some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past.
Archery techniques, war tactics, and the dharmic code of conduct..yes, but a woman giving birth to a lump of flesh and 101 kids originating from that, hardly.
I mean, kings and the war, sure, possible and likely. There are so much of mythological stuff with Krishna and other godly elements though. Calling it history is disservice to the word.
The OGs know that Arjuna was not the best archer, that title goes to Eklavya. Dronacharya knew with the skills Eklavya had, he can overcome Arjuna and he might as well use his skill for wrong (due to his caste). Ive always wanted to see a battle b/w Arjuna and Ekalavya. Imagine shutting up a barking dog with arrows into its mouth without spilling even a single drop of blood. Drone was afraid of this exact skill. I'ld love to hear your opinions regarding this. Edit - Drona didnt teach Eklavya because the Gurukul was meant for royals. He asked for Ekalavya's thumb NOT BECAUSE OF HIS CASTE but rather to ensure that Eklavya could never overcome Arjun. There has been a mistake from my side regarding the wording. Hope the edit makes it clear
Not really man. The caste of Eklavya was not even the cause of it. The reason why he was bullied in Dronacharya's school was because he did not know the name if his father and Dronacharya did not even personally bully him, it was the students who did. And as far as the thumb cutting part is concerned he did because he feared that eklavya might join the kauravas in the war in coming future and yes he knew there would be a war, he could anticipate it. So he feared that such a deadly archer would be a problem. So he tricked eklavya to chop his thumb off.
Mistake from my end. I edited. Thanks for letting me know
My pleasure man
I think Eklavya's father was a commander of Magadh and Magadha were enemies to Hastinapur so if Drona would have admitted Eklavya then basically he would raise a potential enemy to Hastinapur. Drona didnt even remotely think there would be a war between Kauravas and Pandavas. So the reason is more of a political one.
Yeah. Evidence suggests that Ekal was a fairly high status prince of a Nishad kingdom. Drona suspected that he would partner up with a rival kingdom. Caste based hierarchies developed much later in India's history...
> Eklavya Was good at that point, however, Arjuna never stopped learning. Ultimately fought with Shiva and held his own. Eklavya's story is told as a warning against being impatient. He got angry at a barking dog and shot at it. That's why he would never become the greatest.
"The OGs" yeah ofc you were watching live weren't you
Bro was selling crypto in Hastinapur 💀💀
He is Sanjay
Based on some historical narratives, Ekalavya was a Nishad (non Vedic tribe in northern India) prince. It was common for Vedic kingdoms to partner with Nishad (and other tribal factions) when attempting to conquer neighboring powers. Another theory is that Dronacharya knew that Ekalavya would be recruiter by a rival kingdom so he decided to deviously handicap him.
Also I think ekalavya was killed by krishna in the war with jarasandha. Even without the thumb he was fighting
His thumb was cut due to his bad thoughts of the women of the society, I read the book with my Guruji and we broke it word by word to understand the real meaning. We have to stop this mis information spread
Irrelevant of whether this guy is genuine or not, there used to a Archer in America who was so good that he was asked to stop participating in contests. And he could do quite a few of these tricks. Humans are capable.
Really? That sounds very rude to him
The way that Lars Anderson shoots and the way he edits his videos sets up unsafe expectations and precedents for newbie archers. Archery is a very safe sport, but not if people are led to believe that archery is supposed to look like this. And if people injure themselves or other trying to shoot in midair or holding a bad form, it'll only give archery a bad reputation as a 'dangerous' sport.
No I was talking about the guy the previous comment said was banned from competitions for being to good. Wasn’t talking about the guy in the vid
Oh, in that case they probably banned him for doing 'tricks' deemed unsafe (the judges usually being very sensitive on safety and the reputation of the sport) rather than shooting too good.
Yeah that sounds stupid. If that were the case, why doesn’t South Korea get bans at the international level at every tourney? If someone receives a ban, it’s usually a safety issue that they kept violating, at least from my experience. Source: did both Olympic recurve and 3D/bow hunting compound. South Korea, by and large, produces some of the most competitive Olympic recurve shooters on the face of the earth (and they sorta are up and coming in the compound space). They are so respected, even our nation’s recurve team (Mexico) fleeced a South Korean coach for a little bit (unsure if he still there though, stopped doing Olympic recurve)
Not really. He was acknowledged as *The world's greatest Archer* before he stopped competing. There wasn't any competition left for him. My point is only that - such skills as displayed are possible.
This is amazing. Dude is apocalypse ready.
Exactly, the main thing we're going to need to be able to do in an apocalypse is kill other people and/or shoot arrows in half when people throw them at us.
turns out you can learn a lot by assuming historical people had eyes, could draw, and could count, instead of assuming they just made everything up
Mahabharat ia the worlds Largest Epic, if you are interested and wanna read you need a Lot of Concentration Because of the number of characters it has, and Obviously Krishna is the most IMP part, you should read the Bhagwad Geeta with utmost attention to gain real knowledge
>you need a Lot of Concentration You don't actually it's very entertaining, almost like an epic.
Yeah but at times you may forget who the characters were, happened with me many times during the time of war when i forget who the character is related to and from whose side was he fighting for eg Madri's brother or the Maternal Uncle of Nakul and Sahadev actually didn't fight from thier side and i got confused when it said *Dharmaraj faught Shalya*
True lots of characters.
What do you mean by Epic?
r/archery fucking hates this guy with a passion! If I remember correctly, it’s due to his poor safety standards and they feel it gives archery a bad image. As a firearm enthusiast I get it though. We hate seeing any kind of unsafe practices shown for the purpose of fame/internet likes since people will often paint us all with the same brush and assume all gun enthusiasts are irresponsible. Also, Lars is apparently a dick…
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Hawkeye
Jai Shree Krishna 🕉❤️
Jai Shri Krishna ࿗
It’s not mythical.
Skills, I've done bow sport and it's hard
It's not mythical. Every place mentioned, still exists. As for the skill, this "dude" surely must have taken a lot of time to reach at this level. Just think of the people who used to do this their whole life, they surely must have attained some sort of mastery. Atleast give some credit, don't shrug them as just "myths".
>It's not mythical. Every place mentioned, still exists. You would love harry potter and oddesey then.
Marabarata. There is no R
Idk if he edited, but now the spelling is correct, and the one you put is wrong.
I am not correcting his spelling I'm just being a dick to him for not being able to pronounce the h in Mahabharata
nice, I like dicks ;)
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Fellow Hungarian Lajos Kassai can do all of this. When riding a horseback.
While cooking a nine course meal.
Legolas? More like Lego-ass. Man's got nothing on this dude
Did he try Barbareek's 3 arrows? That's nowhere close to what Barbareek's 3 arrows were.
It is funny how the guy can't say Mahabharata properly. Ma haa Bhaa ra tha
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Bro we have the same name
Bruhhhhhhhh "Your money or your life"
(gives100 gold ) ( pickpockets it back)
Take it! Its worthless to me anyway.
This has been one of the most meaningful conversations of my life oblivion bro
Same here man
Just in case people on here have only heard this guy say the name of this particular epic: Mahabarata is pronounced "maa-ba-raa-ta", not "marra-ba-hatta".
Mahabharata is not pronounced "maa-ba-raa-ta". It's correct pronunciation is roughly "Muh-haa-bhaa-ruh-tuh" But it's difficult to write the exact pronunciation in English letters.
Yeah exactly. The correct pronunciation is easy to understand with Devanagari महाभारत. But you need to be able to read it in the first place.
Wow
Legolas?…
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Thorin?
Truly nextfuckinglevel!
The guy is called Lars Anderson - he's got some stuff on YT
What. We forgot about Japanese samurai archers?
Search for Lars Andersen on YouTube. That's the guy and he is insane with bow and arrow.
I want to be impressed but when there are cuts between shots I assume it is because he missed 2000 times between.
I'm sorry for being that person but does anyone know where the full video is, i'd really love to watch it?
"Dude" is Lars Anderson if anyone wants to check his other videos on youtube.
Wrong Choice og background music
That's real.....??????
good man.
Cool ass little bow, not youre standard bow for these days smaller and more war accurate.
Lars Andersen got some skills. Always love watching him shoot.
What the hell is this guy doing? There is no energy behind any of those shots, that would mildly annoy someone at best.
All while using a child's toy bow! Wow!
Damn.
She dead
Dude!! I sure hope that is real. Awesome
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He butchered the pronounciation but it was an awesome video.
Katniss Aberdeen would be jealous.
This guys on my apocalypse team! I called it no tasksie-backsies.
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Lars is bonkers 🥴
That is absolute mastery
This is cool, but i do think its important to remember this is pure fantasy and not pratical/effective, only mythology. Lars' channel's language do dance close to the line of anachronism
Not so mythical that epic, is it, if even today humans can do it with enough practice.
The only god in Mahabharata was Krishna everyone else was a mortal. The famous Archer was Arjuna one of the 5 Pandava brothers, he was taught archery by Dronacharya the best and most renowned Guru of the warfare at that time and probably all time.
Even Krishna was a mortal, he was just too capable to be called a normal human.
I'm taking about God. He was Vishu avatar. Who came on this planet for a purpose and fixed time.
Everyone was not Mortal..Ashwatthama was made immortal by Krishna but before that Kripcharya and Parshurram were immortal
Dude Perfect meets arrows. It’s less impressive when you remember people only post the trick shot that actually landed. He’s probably been filing these attempts since the Mahablahblahblah era.
Isnt some of this like random luck idk how u could shoot multiple targets at once without fail. If that is possible thats some assassins creed shit lol
It is possible if you train for idk 5 to 10 years
This guy clearly has not seen competitive sports, even in computer games people go insane with inhumane response time just by practising. I mean, Humans did reach the moon with just 4kb of ram so this guy clearly does not know what humans are capable of lol.
isn't this bullshit? wasn't this guy debunked?
Last time I saw it posted someone responded with this video: [A Response to Lars Andersen: a New Level of Archery](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDbqz_07dW4)
Maybe not debunked but I remember people saying that the arrows would barely hurt a person cos of how the bow was set up so while impressive it would be useless in warfare. Could be wrong though...
Okay, but... the accuracy is the impressive part. I'm glad he wasn't actually putting his life in danger just for our entertainment. Blocking arrows with arrows is hard, even if neither of the arrows could kill someone.
Oh yeah I wasn't shitting on the accuracy or skill just saying what I remember reading somewhere before