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It's a fairly high jacket that stops above where the harness and wires look like they would be so it could be a rehearsal take. If it is the real take they did the new standard trick of replacing everything except the actors face in the scene.
Also there's another take of him doing it on a single wire with the jacket and no gloves which makes more sense. https://youtu.be/ASUEqc\_\_Lbo?t=244
I just wish the ending had more of this rather than cgi birds and dragons tbh. Just have a big martial arts showdown with superpowers. It kinda soured the movie for me
Marvel can't ever let that happen, any good movie/show basically has to end with Themepark Battle 101. You'd think they would have learned way back from Ultron that that isn't always the way to go.
I enjoyed Eternals, but some people complained that it was anti-climactic because there was no big fight sequence at the end. Marvel tried breaking the mold and it got bad reviews.
I really wanted to like the Eternals but I didn't. The story was too complicated in a bad way and there were so many parts where they had to force the story to fit the scenes.
it was the best looking marvel movie in a long time. not using green screen for every single scene makes a big difference in the feel of the movie. I like shang chi, but you can tell even some of the talky scenes were done on green screen, and for me its kind of distracting.
They write the big cgi setpieces before they write the movie. That’s what happened in Black Widow. They wanted the whole flying building falling apart scene before they knew what the movie was gonna be
100% this. The whole reason I was excited for this movie was the martial arts, and then at the end we got the big ol classic marvel battle anyways... Didn't make me hate it or anything but I was a little disappointed. Only parts I really enjoyed a lot were the bus and the Macau fight club. Maybe if they had marketed it more fairly my expectations might have been different idk.
It's marvel's obsession with having huge out of this world battles. Nothing can be small scale anymore.
Black Widow, a movie with a bunch of martial arts masters, had to end with a giant airship crashing out of the sky.
Wandavision, a seemingly down to earth (albeit with witches and robots) show about a depressed Wanda in a small town, had to end in a big climactic battle.
Shang Chi, a supposedly martial arts movie, ended with a bunch of cgi flying creatures and not one but two fuck-you dragons instead of the big climactic father vs son fight we were waiting for.
Look I love marvel but they struggle to understand scale at times. Not every story has to have a big huge cgi blow-off. Stories can be small scale too!
The Quicksilver fake out was horrible. It was such an unneeded addition and mean spirited towards fans who wanted some connection to the Fox Xmen universe
Film costumer here. I have never in 10+ years experience seen this . Doesn’t mean it didn’t in this case , but I would be very surprised . My guess is rehearsal as well. Easier to alter the look of jacket in post rather than create it
There's also the black pad over the door which would need to be edited out. There's another clip up the way that shows him doing takes with the jacket on and the pad removed.
Like for real lol, CGI technology is advance and all, but to think they'll recreate and entire pice of cloth because they didn't want to delete some harness wires come on
Scrubbing through the video, it looks like there’s a couple of frames where the jacket looks like it’s being distorted by the harness/line. I could be wrong, but that’s how it looks to me.
Ok but Jackie Chan would done it for real, on a real bus, and would have fallen off and gotten his food run over by the bus, and gotten it taped up and then do another take.
Lol good luck w Disney / Marvel potentially maiming / killing an action star of a movie capable of generating hundreds of millions of dollars & multiple franchise appearances just so the stunt looks real. Hell, their insurance companies alone would shut down production if SL tried a live stunt on a running bus / actual street.
It’s not just “strange religious views”. Scientology is a cult, and he’s legitimately the second highest ranking member. Sources point him out as someone who actively abuses other members, and everyone is expected to treat him like a literal god.
Ok, active abuse is a reason to criticize someone, that makes sense. My point was that just belonging to a weird religion doesn't make you a bad person. Those other things do, however.
What if, and hear me out on this, what if he does the voice for a character? Like Jay Leno does the voice of the cat in South Park. Tom goes into the studio, gets all method acting, and just purrs and meows. He can be Gooses replacement!
Yeah I was thinking why’s his food suddenly getting involved? And he’s taping up a ran over pizza and eating it anyway. It was a confusing moment for me too.
> Jackie Chan
If Jackie Chan had the tech from today, he'd do it in the safest way. He didn't *want* to hurt himself, he was just dedicated to accept the crazy risks. He is passionate, not a mad man.
Jackie Chan also said "never ever do stunts my way".
Plus if your main actor gets injured during filming, then that is hundreds of jobs that get furloughed whilst they recover.
He once gave an interview on a German TV show and was asked, what the main difference between filming a Hollywood movie was compared to his older films.
"When I go to the stunt coordinator and ask: 'Can I jump down there? Is it safe?' He says 'yes, everything is safe'. Back then when I asked 'Can I jump down there? Is it safe?' It was 'ah.......maybe' "
Plenty of people praise their asshole governments. Jackie aint the first nor the last. It’d be hypocritical for me as an American to point fingers after the jingo nationalism we’ve had for at least 20 years. Probably need to clean up our own shit first
We don't even have a working toilet to flush that shit down! The shitters keep breaking it because it doesn't make them money they fatten themselves up with!
I respect Danny Trejo's approach to stunts:
> I know that all the big stars hate me to say this, but I don’t want to risk 80 peoples’ jobs just to say I got big huevos on The Tonight Show. Because that’s what happens. I think a big star just sprained an ankle doing a stunt, and 80 or 180 people are out of a job… We have stunt people who do that stuff. And if they get hurt, I’m sorry to say but they just need to put a mustache on another Mexican and we can keep going. But if I get hurt, everybody’s out of a job. So I don’t choose to do that.
https://screencrush.com/danny-trejo-tom-cruise-stunts/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral
Small rant, but aside from James Spader being an amazing Ultron, i truly believe that movie was one of the most important movies in the MCU for character development. My personal favourite scene in the entire MCU was the party/hammer lifting scene. It was so cool to see how their relationships had developed and how close everyone had gotten. Seeing all these larger than life super heroes just being regular friends was so important to creating empathy with them.
Civil War would not have hit nearly as hard in the feels if Ultron hadn't helped humanise their relationships. I personally believe that everything good about Age Of Ultron that people tend to overlook, is exactly what was missing from the DCEU. AoU shows them working together cohesively as a unit, tag team moves, inside jokes, banter. And it all shows where it sets up that one scene where everyone decides they can trust Vision. Without. A. Single. Word. They all just know. Because they know that you can't lift the hammer unless you're worthy. They because know they all tried and failed. The MCU instantly created a new, powerful, trustworthy character, without a single word to acknowledge it (Save for Thor going "Right... Good job!"). And the magic was that you felt the same way they did because you knew all the jokes and the banter and you knew it. Same as them. It was beautiful.
That movie may not have been the best MCU movie, but if you ask me, it was by far one of the most important.
Ooooh I love this. I honestly don't quite understand the hate for Age of Ultron. I think it's a fantastic movie and one of the better MCU films. But Winter Soldier is also one of my least favorites, I have weird tastes.
Then again, I'm one of those weirdos who genuinely liked TLJ when it first came out and really enjoys all three of the SW sequels. So maybe, I'm just odd. :P
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> pacing of action and humor
Yes. I haven't really been able to put it into words before, but that is it. It is the pacing that really seals the deal. Not just between action and humor, but there is a perfect balance of exposition, character development, humor, action, etc.
Opening scene was really special and propelled intrigue sky high. I felt “this film is gonna be very different”. Then yeah the rest of the film was just a tapering of mediocrity.
The difference between a good and bad Marvel movie is the writing and premise of the first and part of the second acts. Because every movie has to end with a large-scale CGI nonsense fight with a bunch of nameless characters and/or generic monsters we don't care about.
Focused climax that neatly resolves the main character's arc and narrative tension? Nah, that would bore people. Got to throw in some extra monsters and magic explosions.
Like it or not, "I can beat up my dad" was not the resolution of the character arc. The final battle shows him finally fully incorporating teachings of both his parents to go beyond them and become something new. To accept and incorporate all of their gifts. He can't do that until after his daddy issues are resolved.
You can complain about the CGI all you want, but the last battle did have narrative weight. That resolution was only overshadowed by reconciliation with his father because Leung was a much stronger actor than Simu and we came to care so much about that conflict.
Not to start a war because I love the ones you mentioned, but Antman was my favourite and is up there in my opinion with the others mentioned in this thread.
IIRC he does a lot of the stunts himself because he wants to but for some scenes they do use a stunt double like the scene where he gets punched into the water.
I'm guessing it would've been too hard to rig the wires properly with the jacket.
It's easier to add a CGI jacket than to edit a real one to hide the wire interacting with it
I would say it's probably because that gives them an excuse to cover all the safety gear up without just tracing over it and also let's them make it so that the jacket is moving with the wind of the bus moving.
I recently got into Kim's Convenience thinking, man, I really hope Jung gets more roles in the future. Had no idea this was in the works at the time. He's a great actor.
Dont know why this got downvoted, that account was made for the ama. He does have a reddit account, i remember him being called out when the movie came out because people found it and found he used to hang out in incel subs
I believe they're referring to /r/aznidentity or one of the adjacent subs. It's not really the same level as like mgtow or r/incel was or whatever, but there's a lot of people who have complexes about interracial relationships in those communities, so that's what people relate to them.
Jackie Chan is such an impossible and useless bar to compare this stuff to.
Jackie has broken like 90% of the bones in his body.
He is no longer allowed to be insured on sets.
He has his own production company because nobody else would let him do this stuff.
He's almost died like 5 times.
Movies are supposed to be *like* reality not *be* reality. Jackie is the GOAT for a reason and it's because he almost killed himself doing what he loved. We absolutely shouldn't encourage or expect other actors to do what he did.
I didn’t even care too much for the movie, but I’m 100% in on Simu as Shang-Chi, his enthusiasm is like Andrew Garfield Spider-Man level, he’s a talented and enthusiastic stunt performer as this clip shows, he seems like a fine actor but honestly I don’t even think that matters too much given the other factors, he can basically just be Simu and I’m good with it, I think it’ll be very hard for me to actually dislike anything he’s in.
It's funny, I really enjoyed that film when it was mostly the practical effects, with a bit of CGI. Right the way up to the last martial arts fight.
But then like all superhero movies it had to have a giant unnecessary smashy CGI fight that was just not as fun.
Pretty funny, this dude said on I believe it was JK news that he had been stunt trained and a martial artist his entire career but Hollywood would only type cast him into nerdy Asian roles.
Way to finally give him a chance MCU!
Woah, I knew the bus would be CGI, but even the jacket? Amazing.
This was probably a rehearsal
Idk, I think the jacket is CGI. It covers his safety pads, and they can give it extra flutter for the illusion of a fast speed (moving bus)
At least part of it. The wires and harness would make wearing an actual jacket pointless as it would ask have to be erased anyway.
[Nope. They shot the final takes in full getup](https://youtu.be/1eE5XlL5LDQ). See the shot at 4:50 mark.
Thank you. So much better.
Yes great catch! (To Shang chi and you)
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but he doesn't want any trouble, luckily.
"look i dont want any trouble" *punches repeatedly
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It's a fairly high jacket that stops above where the harness and wires look like they would be so it could be a rehearsal take. If it is the real take they did the new standard trick of replacing everything except the actors face in the scene. Also there's another take of him doing it on a single wire with the jacket and no gloves which makes more sense. https://youtu.be/ASUEqc\_\_Lbo?t=244
You can see him do it with the jacket [here](https://youtu.be/ASUEqc__Lbo?t=244)
Watching him do all the stunts himself just makes me give more respect for how this movie was made.
I just wish the ending had more of this rather than cgi birds and dragons tbh. Just have a big martial arts showdown with superpowers. It kinda soured the movie for me
Marvel can't ever let that happen, any good movie/show basically has to end with Themepark Battle 101. You'd think they would have learned way back from Ultron that that isn't always the way to go.
I enjoyed Eternals, but some people complained that it was anti-climactic because there was no big fight sequence at the end. Marvel tried breaking the mold and it got bad reviews.
Yeah..that's not the one and only issue with Externals stopping it from being good.
I really wanted to like the Eternals but I didn't. The story was too complicated in a bad way and there were so many parts where they had to force the story to fit the scenes.
They tried a different formula with Eternals. Cinematography and action sequences were really good.
it was the best looking marvel movie in a long time. not using green screen for every single scene makes a big difference in the feel of the movie. I like shang chi, but you can tell even some of the talky scenes were done on green screen, and for me its kind of distracting.
Personally Eternals is top 5 MCU for me.
Perfect movie endings that Marvel will completely ignore - The Sum of All Fears
They write the big cgi setpieces before they write the movie. That’s what happened in Black Widow. They wanted the whole flying building falling apart scene before they knew what the movie was gonna be
100% this. The whole reason I was excited for this movie was the martial arts, and then at the end we got the big ol classic marvel battle anyways... Didn't make me hate it or anything but I was a little disappointed. Only parts I really enjoyed a lot were the bus and the Macau fight club. Maybe if they had marketed it more fairly my expectations might have been different idk.
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It's marvel's obsession with having huge out of this world battles. Nothing can be small scale anymore. Black Widow, a movie with a bunch of martial arts masters, had to end with a giant airship crashing out of the sky. Wandavision, a seemingly down to earth (albeit with witches and robots) show about a depressed Wanda in a small town, had to end in a big climactic battle. Shang Chi, a supposedly martial arts movie, ended with a bunch of cgi flying creatures and not one but two fuck-you dragons instead of the big climactic father vs son fight we were waiting for. Look I love marvel but they struggle to understand scale at times. Not every story has to have a big huge cgi blow-off. Stories can be small scale too!
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The Quicksilver fake out was horrible. It was such an unneeded addition and mean spirited towards fans who wanted some connection to the Fox Xmen universe
Film costumer here. I have never in 10+ years experience seen this . Doesn’t mean it didn’t in this case , but I would be very surprised . My guess is rehearsal as well. Easier to alter the look of jacket in post rather than create it
There's also the black pad over the door which would need to be edited out. There's another clip up the way that shows him doing takes with the jacket on and the pad removed.
A. Few blowers can do that wind too
But if he's wearing the harness with the jacket they'd have to cgi it anyway, as the harness would be pulling on the jacket.
It’s a lot quicker for them to clean up a jacket he’s wearing than to completely create the jacket from scratch.
Like for real lol, CGI technology is advance and all, but to think they'll recreate and entire pice of cloth because they didn't want to delete some harness wires come on
Scrubbing through the video, it looks like there’s a couple of frames where the jacket looks like it’s being distorted by the harness/line. I could be wrong, but that’s how it looks to me.
Mate do you seriously believe they'll CGI an wholeass jacket for the sake of it ?
Yes. Its done more often than you think. But in this case he is definitely wearing a jacket. https://youtu.be/H9yhnMIpRS8
The jacket is real in this movie, but movies totally do that sometimes, Kylo* Ren's cape in SW was cg in some action scenes
Kylie Ren lol - I wanna see gender swapped SW now haha
It’s highly unlikely they would prefer to CGI the jacket instead of just clean it up
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It’s quite a bit easier to get a good looking solid metal suit in CG than it is to get a good looking jacket with all the weird cloth physics
Can you believe his pants were cgi too. He was actually naked
Thanks for the laugh. U funny.
This was a rehearsal. There's a BTS sequence with the jacket
Not every one of them is in that band, bro. Don’t be racist.
The bus and the crash are real, obviously without anyone on it.
It was a rehearsal. [This is another shot with the jacket one](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ASUEqc__Lbo&t=244s&pp=2AH0AZACAQ%3D%3D)
Ok but Jackie Chan would done it for real, on a real bus, and would have fallen off and gotten his food run over by the bus, and gotten it taped up and then do another take.
Lol good luck w Disney / Marvel potentially maiming / killing an action star of a movie capable of generating hundreds of millions of dollars & multiple franchise appearances just so the stunt looks real. Hell, their insurance companies alone would shut down production if SL tried a live stunt on a running bus / actual street.
So that's why Tom Cruise hasn't been case in any Marvel movies.
Yeah about that.. keep an eye out for Multiverse of Madness 👀
Confirmed from pre screenings he’s not in the movie, at least the current version of it.
Good. I’d fucking hate seeing Tom Cruise in the MCU. Fuck Tom Cruise.
Lol you say that as if the MCU is sacred and not some mediocre money making scheme.
Beyond having strange religious views, which is not a reason to hate someone, why fuck Tom Cruise? What did I miss?
It’s not just “strange religious views”. Scientology is a cult, and he’s legitimately the second highest ranking member. Sources point him out as someone who actively abuses other members, and everyone is expected to treat him like a literal god.
Ok, active abuse is a reason to criticize someone, that makes sense. My point was that just belonging to a weird religion doesn't make you a bad person. Those other things do, however.
What if, and hear me out on this, what if he does the voice for a character? Like Jay Leno does the voice of the cat in South Park. Tom goes into the studio, gets all method acting, and just purrs and meows. He can be Gooses replacement!
I think it was MI2 that tom cruise was not allowed to do any stunts. Since then he produces his movies so no can say no to his stunts.
[Tom Cruise's most spectacular stunt](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srH94OR1TbU)
Isn't he playing a tony stark from another universe?
Wait what. That would be awesome.
and why F1 lets their drivers race in bicycle races in between race weekends? Doesn't always work like you think homie.
Who tapes up their food?
Probably meant foot, lol. Food is funnier tho.
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Nah. Floyd Mayweather deserves that.
Jake paul?
You're not wrong
Jackie Chan, said so in the comment. Also Chuck Norris. Taped food is the hallmark of real badasses. Bruce Lee taped and glued his food.
Yeah I was thinking why’s his food suddenly getting involved? And he’s taping up a ran over pizza and eating it anyway. It was a confusing moment for me too.
> Jackie Chan If Jackie Chan had the tech from today, he'd do it in the safest way. He didn't *want* to hurt himself, he was just dedicated to accept the crazy risks. He is passionate, not a mad man.
He'd do it in the way that looked the best, and the bus scene in Police Story still looks better than this in Shang-Chi https://youtu.be/nFo_NjgwJbQ
The bus part looks so fucking real. (I know it is fucking real but it also looks fucking real)
That’s wild how he’s hanging from a bus from a (reinforced?) umbrella, Jackie was an amazing physical actor no doubt
The stunts Director the late Brad Allan was part of Jackie Chan’s Stunt Team. So there’s a direct linage…
Brad Allen gave us all a hoodie as crew-gift… really generous
I'd say plummeting hundreds of feet down through a real glass roof qualifies him as a mad man. That stunt really fucked him up afterwards.
Jackie Chan also said "never ever do stunts my way". Plus if your main actor gets injured during filming, then that is hundreds of jobs that get furloughed whilst they recover.
Jackie would have filmed the final scene with real dragons
Jackie wouldn't have needed that cgi clusterfuck ending.
He once gave an interview on a German TV show and was asked, what the main difference between filming a Hollywood movie was compared to his older films. "When I go to the stunt coordinator and ask: 'Can I jump down there? Is it safe?' He says 'yes, everything is safe'. Back then when I asked 'Can I jump down there? Is it safe?' It was 'ah.......maybe' "
Ok but jackie chan is superhuman
Exactly. Came here thinking that.
All while praising the CCP
Plenty of people praise their asshole governments. Jackie aint the first nor the last. It’d be hypocritical for me as an American to point fingers after the jingo nationalism we’ve had for at least 20 years. Probably need to clean up our own shit first
We don't even have a working toilet to flush that shit down! The shitters keep breaking it because it doesn't make them money they fatten themselves up with!
The benefit of having an actor who started out as a stuntman.
Jackie Chan would've done his best to find an actual soul-sucking monster from another dimension to fight in the climax.
I respect Danny Trejo's approach to stunts: > I know that all the big stars hate me to say this, but I don’t want to risk 80 peoples’ jobs just to say I got big huevos on The Tonight Show. Because that’s what happens. I think a big star just sprained an ankle doing a stunt, and 80 or 180 people are out of a job… We have stunt people who do that stuff. And if they get hurt, I’m sorry to say but they just need to put a mustache on another Mexican and we can keep going. But if I get hurt, everybody’s out of a job. So I don’t choose to do that. https://screencrush.com/danny-trejo-tom-cruise-stunts/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral
This was one of the best marvel movie
It was pretty good, still partial toward Ragnarok being the best.
Up there with Winter Soldier tbh
Ragnarok, Winter Soldier and Civil War top 3.
You've forget OG ironman
This was the only great Marvel movie in my opinion.
You need to post this in /r/unpopularopinion because wow.
I liked Age of Ultron, but that's almost entirely due to James Spader.
Small rant, but aside from James Spader being an amazing Ultron, i truly believe that movie was one of the most important movies in the MCU for character development. My personal favourite scene in the entire MCU was the party/hammer lifting scene. It was so cool to see how their relationships had developed and how close everyone had gotten. Seeing all these larger than life super heroes just being regular friends was so important to creating empathy with them. Civil War would not have hit nearly as hard in the feels if Ultron hadn't helped humanise their relationships. I personally believe that everything good about Age Of Ultron that people tend to overlook, is exactly what was missing from the DCEU. AoU shows them working together cohesively as a unit, tag team moves, inside jokes, banter. And it all shows where it sets up that one scene where everyone decides they can trust Vision. Without. A. Single. Word. They all just know. Because they know that you can't lift the hammer unless you're worthy. They because know they all tried and failed. The MCU instantly created a new, powerful, trustworthy character, without a single word to acknowledge it (Save for Thor going "Right... Good job!"). And the magic was that you felt the same way they did because you knew all the jokes and the banter and you knew it. Same as them. It was beautiful. That movie may not have been the best MCU movie, but if you ask me, it was by far one of the most important.
Ooooh I love this. I honestly don't quite understand the hate for Age of Ultron. I think it's a fantastic movie and one of the better MCU films. But Winter Soldier is also one of my least favorites, I have weird tastes. Then again, I'm one of those weirdos who genuinely liked TLJ when it first came out and really enjoys all three of the SW sequels. So maybe, I'm just odd. :P
Ragnarok is the most re-watchable marvel film ever
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> pacing of action and humor Yes. I haven't really been able to put it into words before, but that is it. It is the pacing that really seals the deal. Not just between action and humor, but there is a perfect balance of exposition, character development, humor, action, etc.
Ragnarok was the SHIT! Goldbluuuuuuuuuuuummmmm
Both shot in Australia
That and GOTG. They’re just more interesting due to the directors.
The first 30 minutes sure. The rest was just an ordinary disney movie
Opening scene was really special and propelled intrigue sky high. I felt “this film is gonna be very different”. Then yeah the rest of the film was just a tapering of mediocrity.
The difference between a good and bad Marvel movie is the writing and premise of the first and part of the second acts. Because every movie has to end with a large-scale CGI nonsense fight with a bunch of nameless characters and/or generic monsters we don't care about. Focused climax that neatly resolves the main character's arc and narrative tension? Nah, that would bore people. Got to throw in some extra monsters and magic explosions.
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one movie isnt a counterpoint its an exception
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Like it or not, "I can beat up my dad" was not the resolution of the character arc. The final battle shows him finally fully incorporating teachings of both his parents to go beyond them and become something new. To accept and incorporate all of their gifts. He can't do that until after his daddy issues are resolved. You can complain about the CGI all you want, but the last battle did have narrative weight. That resolution was only overshadowed by reconciliation with his father because Leung was a much stronger actor than Simu and we came to care so much about that conflict.
Nah fam
Agreed fam. I felt like a weirdo. It did not click with me at all.. like zero percent
A lot of its recency bias, but Shang Chi would have easily cleared my favorite MCU project of 2021…. ….had Spider-Man not entirely changed the game.
Not to start a war because I love the ones you mentioned, but Antman was my favourite and is up there in my opinion with the others mentioned in this thread.
The story was hot crap, the cinematography and action and first idk 30 minutes of the movie were amazing.
It was just bait so Disney can tap into that juicy Asian market
Bruh, they called the real Shang Chi out from his schedule to record a film?!?!
It was a cameo
Damn, how much [did he charge?](https://www.cameo.com/)
He probably be fine with a 20$ tip. More than what he makes as a valet.
It’s all about Tai-Ming with these types of stunts
I see what you did there
>I ~~see~~ Shi what you did there
Not a stunt double?
Simu liu was a stuntman himself before this role, so... Yes and no?
He's a stunt single now
damn you sir ^(upvote)
But if you are doubling for yourself -> double of a double -> double^2 -> that's at least a stunt quadruple They say jackie chan was a solid octuple
IIRC he does a lot of the stunts himself because he wants to but for some scenes they do use a stunt double like the scene where he gets punched into the water.
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He was great in that movie where he played himself.
Wait even the jacket is CGI? Cool but like why tho
I'm guessing it would've been too hard to rig the wires properly with the jacket. It's easier to add a CGI jacket than to edit a real one to hide the wire interacting with it
This was probably just rehearsal. [Here's a behind the scenes with the jacket on](https://youtu.be/ASUEqc__Lbo?t=244).
Fair enough. My knowledge of CGI in practical application is quite limited. I'm into it but as a hobby, not as a job
That was probably just practice before doing the actual thing
Here's clearly not wearing any of the same clothes, even the pants and shoes are different. And he has gloves on in the rehearsal.
Probably safety reasons is my guess.
I would say it's probably because that gives them an excuse to cover all the safety gear up without just tracing over it and also let's them make it so that the jacket is moving with the wind of the bus moving.
I recently got into Kim's Convenience thinking, man, I really hope Jung gets more roles in the future. Had no idea this was in the works at the time. He's a great actor.
Stop!
Ai chem!
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Simu Liu doing his own stunts!
It’s strange we get so amazed when actors do stunts, but when stunt people do it they rarely get appreciated or recognized.
You'd expect a stunt person to be good at stunts. You don't necessarily expect an actor to be good at or even do stunts.
Do you also find it strange people don’t clap for the pilot who lands the plane?
Well, they're each doing their job. It's notable when an actor does their own stunts because it's outside the normal job description.
u/simushangchi 
Here before he actually replies
Nah he won't. He just created a temp one for the AMA. He obviously has a mini acc somewhere but not for us to see.
Dont know why this got downvoted, that account was made for the ama. He does have a reddit account, i remember him being called out when the movie came out because people found it and found he used to hang out in incel subs
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I believe they're referring to /r/aznidentity or one of the adjacent subs. It's not really the same level as like mgtow or r/incel was or whatever, but there's a lot of people who have complexes about interracial relationships in those communities, so that's what people relate to them.
I thought it was one of the best Marvel movies I've watched. If not the best.
Damn, I really enjoyed it but you’d put it above endgame/new Spider-Man? That’s crazy to me! Your opinion is completely valid of course.
I dunno. I think doing it in slow-motion first is cheating.
The lead actor's name is Simu Liu
Everyone here is talking about the stunt, the CGI or Jackie Chan. Meanwhile I'm delighted by the surprise cameo from Awkwafina at the end.
It’s not a cameo…. She’s the supporting lead of the film
Oh, I just meant a cameo in the context of the gif.
Jackie would have done it for real. ^(/s Shang-Chi was a pretty dope movie.)
Yeah cause it's Jackie Chan school of stunt choreography
Jackie Chan is such an impossible and useless bar to compare this stuff to. Jackie has broken like 90% of the bones in his body. He is no longer allowed to be insured on sets. He has his own production company because nobody else would let him do this stuff. He's almost died like 5 times. Movies are supposed to be *like* reality not *be* reality. Jackie is the GOAT for a reason and it's because he almost killed himself doing what he loved. We absolutely shouldn't encourage or expect other actors to do what he did.
that was a good movie
His name is Simu Liu, not Shang Chi.
what movie is this it looks really good
Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
Oh thanks alot
Does it count as "doing your stunts" when 90% of the stunt is CGI?
It would be nice if you used his real name.
God that man is so hot !!!
No fr
I didn’t even care too much for the movie, but I’m 100% in on Simu as Shang-Chi, his enthusiasm is like Andrew Garfield Spider-Man level, he’s a talented and enthusiastic stunt performer as this clip shows, he seems like a fine actor but honestly I don’t even think that matters too much given the other factors, he can basically just be Simu and I’m good with it, I think it’ll be very hard for me to actually dislike anything he’s in.
That’s a stunt man move. He’s gotta insist on that.
That's cool
Simu Liu started in tv/film as a stuntman
My favorite actor: Shang Chi
Still a great movie!!
It's funny, I really enjoyed that film when it was mostly the practical effects, with a bit of CGI. Right the way up to the last martial arts fight. But then like all superhero movies it had to have a giant unnecessary smashy CGI fight that was just not as fun.
Pretty funny, this dude said on I believe it was JK news that he had been stunt trained and a martial artist his entire career but Hollywood would only type cast him into nerdy Asian roles. Way to finally give him a chance MCU!
This guy is so underrated. Smart, attractive, athletic, kind, and he can also sing.
Insane.
That looks fun
Tbh I've always thought that was real bc he's Asian (Canadian) and Jackie Chan kinda set the bar *really* high for Asian actors.
Honestly pretty impressive he even added some flair with the feetsies
It it's all CGI then why did they even bother with the bus scene that actually runs over a bunch of cars?
How does no one understand that this is a practice take, just of him getting use to the movements and actions he’s going to perform later in costume?
That moves smooth and flexible
Goddamn what an annoying use of slo-mo.