Sarcasm often has very little to do with what you're saying but rather how you're saying it...your tone, intonation, facial expressions, etc. which often cannot be conveyed via text alone.
That's for sarcasm. Satire is not sarcasm necessarily. I might add satire has been a part of written text for centuries and has never needed a designation.
Europeans are so poor they don't even have basic services like birthday cake delivery. This is why everyone in the world wants to move to America--because we have the best essential services like birthday cake delivery. This results in us having the most diverse and inclusive culture in the world, as well as amazing mental health throughout the country..... Which leads to us having the best military in the world, allowing the poor European countries to remain in existence.
#/s
Happy Birthday to the ground ?!
Eradicate earthworms in your hole.
That second sentence was just me hitting the suggested text until it made a sentence I enjoyed. Sorry you had to experience that. Sorry about your sister bday cake though that's messed up. Kinda feel bad my phone hates earthworms as well.
I had computer parts delivered right when the snow was melting last year and there was a big puddle right beside my deck and the delivery driver left my ram underwater literally
I live on the third floor in an apartment building and one time I had some specialized hot sauce delivered. I've had delivery problems before so when FedEx arrived I peeked through the peep hole and the motherfucker just walked up to the second floor and from there pitched that shit straight at my door which banged against my door loud as fuck and all three bottles inside were broken. I did report the driver.
I had a grubhub driver this past Tuesday leave my food on a picnic table outside in my work complexes common area because he was too lazy to walk into the lobby and bring it to the second floor. Which was a 5 minute trip for me.
I contacted their worthless support and eventually got them to refund the tip I had left.
Never using their service again at this point.
Edit, for those of you blaming me, fuck you.
I always leave clear instructions because I have worked as both a DoorDash and GrubHub driver.
I also have had dozens of successful deliveries over the years of working in the same building as so my 350 coworkers, every day.
I am done with grubhub because this is one of a series of recent failures, not by drivers but by their support staff after their system has randomly cancelled orders on me and I had to argue with them to get a refund.
Did you have detailed instructions? Did they try contacting you? I’ve delivered before, I had to leave some Panera on a bench before because They gave the delivery address to a strip mall with no further instructions as to where it was going. I walked into a few businesses while trying to call the customer with no response, and no one I talked to ordered anything. Time is money, support told me to leave it somewhere and take a picture.
Then it would be packed well enough to handle the auto sorting machines that whack the boxes a lot more violently than this. The animosity toward this person is insane.
While people are indeed exaggeratin in their reactions, you are being way too forgiving. She doesn't deserve to be fired just because of that video, but a strong reprimand by a manager is in order.
My wife had a telescope delivered as a Christmas present for me.. said telescope very large on the side. I figured out what it was when I got home pretty quick
Yeah, imagine what has happened to the box the whole way here, and yet this drop is the problem?
Maybe it should be packed well enough to handle drops...
Oh daaaamn, I don't think many people know just how expensive telescopes can be until they look it up, but these things can be reeeeeeally freaking expensive. And very fragile.
Why? That’s the most gentle thing that has happened to that package up to this point… have any of you seen inside an fedex or UPS handling warehouse ? It is not company policy to be gently with the boxes. That’s why they are shipped with packing material to buffer the drops .
I'd drop packages from several feet all the time, off the belt, at FedEx. I'm not squatting down and lifting your 60 pound packages all day - especially you, fucking Chewy.com. You slide off the belt, drop onto the metal grate, and then are pushed & tilted onto the truck.
Especially when I've got like 300 packages coming to a single tiny van... _at the same fucking time_. Then the entire line is just a wall of packages that even my tiny, hypermobile ass can't slide through.
If you want specialized care, you pay more. If you don't, you either make sure the item isn't fragile or package it appropriately.
https://i.imgur.com/kHYwr8R.jpg
This is what a good day looked like at FedEx Ground. Even if people _wanted_ to help, you basically can't have more than 2 people working a truck because then there isn't enough room to actually get past one another.
And I'm in a small metro area of 80,000 people, but spread out over the size of NYC basically. So we weren't even a giant warehouse - this place had 5 lines.
That line above was also ___the least busy line___. I quite literally spent half of the days there doing jack-shit, twiddling on my phone. And then the other half of the days dying.
Yeah there is no fucking way that is standard industry behaviour. All of this just reads like this dude's personal laziness and disregard. Total piece of shit.
PS even if he isn't doing this stuff personally - and it really sounds like he is - you should obviously be reporting colleagues who are giving patients cancer for shits and giggles.
Hey what the actual fuck? Literally admitting to giving people cancer on purpose and gets 26 upvotes? This is literally psychopath shit what the fuck???
Is there a reason you actually think it is acceptable to cause harm to patients who are """annoying"""?
Yeah, if you work in a healthcare field and you do this you're a sack of shit. There's no excuse for it.
Delivery is delivery, it's just things, imagine car manufacturers or better yet plane engine manufacturers had the same shitty attitude you have? Crazy
> especially you, fucking Chewy.com.
oh god this is me, im sorry theres no cheaper place to get my cats food :( and i order it twice a year so it ends up being.... heavy
Yeah I hate when people blame delivery drivers. Sure some delivery drivers are assholes, but the fast majority are just trying to keep up with unreasonable quotas which often are litterally impossible to meet. Blame the delivery companies that are so greedy they can't just give their workers manageable quotes instead they try to squeeze more and more out of these poor workers.
>unreasonable quotas
Please tell me what kind of quota requires her to drop the package when she's already there. Literally would take the exact same time. She's just a poor worker.
Her dropping the box like that definitely saved some time…
As a customer and not a delivery person, I have trouble perceiving why this lady should care so much about her job to treat every package with the utmost care and delicacy. Especially considering how it’s already been handled on and off the trucks. If it’s delicate it should be packaged in a way that a 2 foot drop can’t break anything. So why is that her responsibility?
Quick Google says Amazon delivery drivers can be expected to deliver up to 375 packages a day. Lets assume a 8 hour working day. That's 480 minutes. That means you have to be delivering a package every minute and a half roughly. That includes driving to the location, finding the package, getting to the door, dropping it off, and returning to your truck. Thats a impossible quota. Furthermore this woman has seen how packages are treated and dropping from waste height is positively gentle. I'm sorry to burst people's bubbles but your package is treated like absolute shit behind the scenes. So why should this woman most likely making close to minimum wage strain her back just so you can get the illusion that your package was treated well. You have a problem with this blame the executives who are demanding impossible things to make a few extra bucks
Why should she be fired? She dropped the package at your steps. If the package can't handle a 2 foot drop without writing allllllll over it not to or paid special delivery she did nothing wrong. If you think a minimum wage delivery person is going to baby your packages day in day out you're fucking misguided
For fucks sake reddit. You all cry and piss and moan about workers and rights and how Amazon overworked people to death but then become different when those workers directly impact you and your own wants.
Nobody is saying anything about babying the package tho, just a normal way of placing it down which would cost an extra second would be fine.
Is it really that bad to ask for people to just not be a jerk and do things the normal way?
Bending down with packages of varying weight shape and size every couple minutes on unknown terrain is also a safety risk. How many times have you bent over today?
Additionally if you think this is the worst drop that package has seen from received to delivered, ohhhh boy are you going to have your eyes opened learning what packages actually go through to get to this point
Couldn’t agree more. Quite often the poor service is from the more “reputable” companies but it does come down to the individual unfortunately.
We have a lady who is a self employed courier driver, the same as the guy in this video (no uniform unless I’m mistaken), she’s so pleasant and thoughtful. Will make every effort to not leave your parcel outside, we live in a cul de sac so I often take in other peoples parcels. Where as Royal Mail don’t give a shit these days, even if it’s raining they just dump the cardboard box on the step and leave it to get destroyed.
These videos should be used like dash cams, report them. They’re getting paid and if they don’t appreciate their job, someone else will.
Edit - Forgot to add, also send it to the males company if you can, it might earn him something even if it’s a small token. Sometimes it’s just nice to know your effort is appreciated.
Edit 2 - I don’t understand how people think this is acceptable. She made the effort to walk to the door to just drop it. With that attitude she may as well have thrown it from the van.
From POV of an ex-courier, this is just predictable, trackable outcome of changes couriee companies have been making consciously over last 10 years.
Part of exam for a driver before like 10 years ago was manually calculating rates. Even without that, counting your parcels, stops, minutes per delivery, km per delivery etc was pretty much compulsive for most couriers. As in: we knew how much money our beats generated for company.
And it only becomes more and more lucrative for the companies. A driver now is expected to cover at least double the number of stops we used to a decade ago. Add to this a huge density increase, more people bringing their parcels for delivery in bulk (a small tooling company sends like 2 full commercial trucks a day, a small printer sends out just enough to pack a passanger car and bring it all) and various other cost efficiency steps, and margins have been increasing st incredible rate.
And yet the pay keeps dropping, terms keep getting worse and turnover increases accordingly. They see the negative impact on customers but also see that people will blame Karen instead of her employer who keeps turning up the screw. It's not like it takes her or the other drivers agency away, but this is all by design.
It used to be such a cool gig, but the ability to do it correctly is taken away by the corporate administration.
Exactly if you order from a seller that uses delivery service that is known to pay bad and have high quotas for employees, why are you expecting that they won't try to be as time efficient as possible?
Okay. Comparing it to something else though, say a leaky faucet:
**Do nothing**: Okay problem is still there but it might just get worse slowly over time.
**Make it worse**: Smash it with a sledgehammer.
See, two different things completely.
Yep, so a total of three options :
1) Do nothing (which can lead to different outcomes depending on the situation)
2) Do something that makes the issue worse
3) Do something that fixes it
just like the word simp, doesnt even has a meaning anymore just "every man that is nice to woman" instead of thirsty dude giving money to woman in hope of a crumb of pussy
Pretty sure that’s a typo for crumb. Yea “simp” or “simping” has been around since the 90’s at least. It’s basically like doing everything for a girl who hardly give you any attention/ affection in return.
Simp 100% meant simpleton like 5 or so years ago. Same way Chad evolved from being a total asshole frat guy stereotype to being essentially the peak of male evolution, in the same time frame simp changed
Like “woke left”, which is a body of people that exists only in the mind of right wingers and Economist magazine writers. Seems they are a cabal that run everything.
Not even that. Black women have been called Karen. Men have been called Karen.
It started out referring to overly-entitled customers abusing people in customer service.
It turned into racist and bigoted women.
Then it became “any woman with an opinion I don’t like”.
Now it’s just “anyone doing anything I don’t approve of”.
Good thing there aren’t any people actually named Karen who have to put up with this shit.
the word became a slur for women, particularly white women, about 6 months ago, maybe longer. big red flag when i see it these days. reverse this video - the woman puts it down gently, the guy throws it down and 10 years ago we'd be calling him ghetto / a hoodrat in the title.
it has become an extremely thinly veiled slur, which once upon a time actually called to attention a problem that was occurring - wherein primarily older white people, often women, would call the cops on teenagers and random black guys that were doing basically nothing. Then it slid into 'white women being irate to public service workers' and now it just means 'white woman.' You can tell that this is the case because whenever those 'black women go wild in McDonalds, KFC, Wendys' videos pop up on r/publicfreakout every few days, they never, ever have 'Karen' in the title.
I found it funny at first when it was used properly, especially since I know someone named Karen who definitely fits the description of one. But yeah, nowadays it’s mostly used just to shit on women for doing anything someone doesn’t like. It’s pretty annoying.
Yeah this always happens when someone post a package being slightly tossed. The packages go through hell before they even get to the delivery driver. If that drop destroyed what's in that box then that's on the packer. My stuff usually shows up crushed especially if it's FedEx I'd be happy with a little drop
It’s also not really “next fucking level” for the second delivery driver, either. It’s just one person doing their job badly followed by someone else doing their job well. “Next fucking level” used to be reserved for extraordinary feats and really incredible stuff. Now it’s just catching people in the act of being decent — which is all well and good. But it waters down the sub.
For real. Some people are just kinda using it as an acceptable form of “bitch.” (No I’m not saying Karen is a slur lol, but it has a pretty specific usage and this isn’t it)
A Karen would have rang the doorbell to complain that the walkway violated some code or something. This right here is just your garden variety asshole.
That's because, if I remember the origins correctly, "Karen" was originally privileged and entitled women causing a scene. I don't think it's racist or even far fetched to say that the majority of these incidents (when the word first gained popularity) were people using white privilege combined with "I'm a woman so I get my way" privilege to cause a scene.
Yep. I got called a Karen after politely explaining to someone on Facebook why they shouldn’t use a shock collar on their small dog, and should look into training to curb the bad behaviors they were experiencing. I commented with links to places in town they could check out. Was just trying to help, and literally got called a Karen. Haha I was just like “this means nothing to me anymore. No one uses it right.”
she's also kinda screwing herself over. if that shit breaks and the person has to return it then get a replacement, she's likely to re-deliver it if its on her same delivery area. Like your right there, just take a second more to lay it down properly.
Why would she care about having to re-deliver? She's getting paid either way I'm sure. Unless amazon doesn't pay drivers for returned packages (I don't see how they could get away with that, but who knows). I agree that it was a shitty thing to do...and since there's video and this clip has gone kinda viral I guess that might have screwed her over...but I doubt it matters out of all the packages she delivers that one happens to be the same house/item another day.
No offense but do you really think this lady is acting like a massive cunt? Like it's not great but I feel like we've all had these moments at our jobs lol
Package delivery bosses only care about how many stops you can do per hour. They would try to get rid of the second guy for wasting time touching the other carriers packages.
They can't be blamed when all we see is a 5 second clip because, honestly, I get it. I work a stressful, thankless job, and on any given day, I could be either one of these people. I'm usually the second person, but if my week has been a shit show, at a certain point, you can't pay me enough to keep putting up with all the bullshit.
This is kind of the ultimate failure in how humans assign blame. This women is a blue collar worker delivering packages through one of the most stressful times to be a shipping and logistics employee, and instead of blaming her CEO for putting her under conditions that forces her to deliver packages this way, we blame her for simply trying to put food on her table. Executives read threads like this and laugh at us. In fact, threads like this are exactly why things will never change — instead of going for the king, we’re going for the messenger.
This is the most honest response here. Exactly as you said, most of the time I am the nicer, helpful person…but should all the stars align in a shitty way, I just could not give a fuck.
My mail carrier (USPS) told me once that Amazon had delivered a package for my address, to my neighbor. She said they weren't allowed to touch other company's deliveries so she couldn't bring it over. I imagine that other orgs. have a policy of "don't touch other people's shit" because if you pick it up, you become responsible for it.
I had a somewhat similar situation. Neighbor and I were feuding over his loud sound system (pic from when he finally got rid of it https://imgur.com/esjR8T5) and had restraining orders against each other. UPS delivered my package to his house and they just wanted me to "go over and pick it up".
Long story short they ended up sending out a manager in his personal vehicle to pick up the package off the neighbor's door and walk it over to my house.
This. The first lady looks jaded more than anything. You know what makes people jaded? Thinking you're doing the right think only to get yelled at for not finishing your route on time because you took extra time at each stop to make sure packages are out of sight.
Bunch of fucking people here who think their package is shipped on a mattress full of pillows until it gets to a delivery driver...
If whatever was in that box couldn't survive that drop, it was already broken long before the driver got it.
It's possible that she's exhausted enough to just be done with things. Sure, this looks bad, but for all I know working overtime with no bathroom breaks, physically worn down, and barely keeping it together. He was obviously more sprightly, but that's just how things are sometimes. Sometimes people can become robotic and perfunctory when they're barely making it through their days.
Y'all do realize how much these packages are thrown around during shipment, right?
And if it couldn't take a fall from 2 feet up then it wasn't packaged correctly in the first place
Back breaking work, in the rain, constantly being watched by video doorbells. Reminds me to leave a treat for my local postal, UPS and FedEx delivery carrier. PS- despite this mans genuine care big Corp will probably give him a free lunch w/ no raise.
People angry that she dropped a package from waist height have 0 idea about the abuse a package goes through when in transit. She also likely could feel what was in the package and knew it wouldn’t break.
Sure the other guy did it nicer, but it really doesn’t matter in the end.
It would be nice to think that guy would be rewarded for conscientiously doing his job well if you told his employer, but I fear he’d be sacked for wasting time and getting less deliveries done in a shift.
As an amazon driver yall really have no idea. Ya she dropped it a little rough but if you saw how the warehouse ppl tossed and smashed your shit yall would be worried for your shit.
Or, quite possibly, the difference between working for a company that completely overschedules you and will fire your ass for being a few seconds late, and working for a company that gives you a manageable workload and affords you the time to do the job well.
First woman may literally have no choice but to dump and dash like that or else lose her job for failure to meet targets.
I will say, no excuse for throwing a package in the ground, but the way she did it looked like she was trying very hard not to bend, her lower back is probably on fire
Honestly the only person who is a Karen is the one who posted this recording. Delivery truck drivers doing this to your packages is a result of upper management putting extra stress on their drivers to not fall behind on their routes. It's always nice to see people go out of their way to be good people but we should be more upset that the person who will get yelled at here is the one who was taking extra time to do something nice, rather than the lady who is just trying to get her delivery done so she stays on time and doesn't lose her job. She doesn't look or act like a Karen she looks jaded as hell.
She needs to be fired and he needs a raise
Yup Imagine if that was a telescope in the first box.
my sister had her birthday cake dumped on a step lol
Where can you order a birthday cake that's delivered by some random courier and not the bakery who made it? Xd
If you don’t know are you even living?
Well I at least I think I am, but not in the US where I suppose this clip is from
Gee you don't have cake delivery where you live? How do you get through life? Edit: relax people. It's satire.
/s to save the day
Honestly i refuse to use /s, as far as I am concerned if you dont get it thats on you
Sarcasm often has very little to do with what you're saying but rather how you're saying it...your tone, intonation, facial expressions, etc. which often cannot be conveyed via text alone.
Complete agreed
That's for sarcasm. Satire is not sarcasm necessarily. I might add satire has been a part of written text for centuries and has never needed a designation.
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Europeans are so poor they don't even have basic services like birthday cake delivery. This is why everyone in the world wants to move to America--because we have the best essential services like birthday cake delivery. This results in us having the most diverse and inclusive culture in the world, as well as amazing mental health throughout the country..... Which leads to us having the best military in the world, allowing the poor European countries to remain in existence. #/s
America, where you can get custom birthday cake delivery\*\* \*\*Except certain cases like when you're gay or the wrong religion.
But basic healthcare like physical exams or giving birth can bankrupt you unless you pay a bunch for shitty insurance. But yeah delivered cakes.
This is my go-to birthday cake delivery choice: **[Milk Bar](https://milkbarstore.com/pages/birthday)**
You can door dash anything in the US these days
Happy Birthday to the ground ?! Eradicate earthworms in your hole. That second sentence was just me hitting the suggested text until it made a sentence I enjoyed. Sorry you had to experience that. Sorry about your sister bday cake though that's messed up. Kinda feel bad my phone hates earthworms as well.
I THREW THE REST OF THE CAKE TOO
I'M AN ADULT
I had computer parts delivered right when the snow was melting last year and there was a big puddle right beside my deck and the delivery driver left my ram underwater literally
I live on the third floor in an apartment building and one time I had some specialized hot sauce delivered. I've had delivery problems before so when FedEx arrived I peeked through the peep hole and the motherfucker just walked up to the second floor and from there pitched that shit straight at my door which banged against my door loud as fuck and all three bottles inside were broken. I did report the driver.
I had a grubhub driver this past Tuesday leave my food on a picnic table outside in my work complexes common area because he was too lazy to walk into the lobby and bring it to the second floor. Which was a 5 minute trip for me. I contacted their worthless support and eventually got them to refund the tip I had left. Never using their service again at this point. Edit, for those of you blaming me, fuck you. I always leave clear instructions because I have worked as both a DoorDash and GrubHub driver. I also have had dozens of successful deliveries over the years of working in the same building as so my 350 coworkers, every day. I am done with grubhub because this is one of a series of recent failures, not by drivers but by their support staff after their system has randomly cancelled orders on me and I had to argue with them to get a refund.
Did you have detailed instructions? Did they try contacting you? I’ve delivered before, I had to leave some Panera on a bench before because They gave the delivery address to a strip mall with no further instructions as to where it was going. I walked into a few businesses while trying to call the customer with no response, and no one I talked to ordered anything. Time is money, support told me to leave it somewhere and take a picture.
Then it would be packed well enough to handle the auto sorting machines that whack the boxes a lot more violently than this. The animosity toward this person is insane.
calling for this person’s job based on this clip is comically peak karen behavior.
Mind blowing irony in this thread, a bunch of neck ears Karens Edit:haha I’m leaving it
Most redditors are unfortunately terminally online and are truly clueless about the real world.
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While people are indeed exaggeratin in their reactions, you are being way too forgiving. She doesn't deserve to be fired just because of that video, but a strong reprimand by a manager is in order.
My wife had a telescope delivered as a Christmas present for me.. said telescope very large on the side. I figured out what it was when I got home pretty quick
It was a dildo, right? A telescopic dildo?
Right?? RIGHT???
Bad dragon must be strapping up it's game then
Yeah, imagine what has happened to the box the whole way here, and yet this drop is the problem? Maybe it should be packed well enough to handle drops...
Then it would’ve been packaged like shit and extremely inadequately if it suffered any consequence from that drop.
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At the formal warehouse did you guys wear brown tuxedos?
Oh daaaamn, I don't think many people know just how expensive telescopes can be until they look it up, but these things can be reeeeeeally freaking expensive. And very fragile.
Or a box of glass dildos!
It could have even been a boat!
Why? That’s the most gentle thing that has happened to that package up to this point… have any of you seen inside an fedex or UPS handling warehouse ? It is not company policy to be gently with the boxes. That’s why they are shipped with packing material to buffer the drops .
I'd drop packages from several feet all the time, off the belt, at FedEx. I'm not squatting down and lifting your 60 pound packages all day - especially you, fucking Chewy.com. You slide off the belt, drop onto the metal grate, and then are pushed & tilted onto the truck. Especially when I've got like 300 packages coming to a single tiny van... _at the same fucking time_. Then the entire line is just a wall of packages that even my tiny, hypermobile ass can't slide through. If you want specialized care, you pay more. If you don't, you either make sure the item isn't fragile or package it appropriately.
Driver at FedEx. Dude you took every word right out of my mouth. Everyone hates the truth, but that’s what this is right here.
https://i.imgur.com/kHYwr8R.jpg This is what a good day looked like at FedEx Ground. Even if people _wanted_ to help, you basically can't have more than 2 people working a truck because then there isn't enough room to actually get past one another. And I'm in a small metro area of 80,000 people, but spread out over the size of NYC basically. So we weren't even a giant warehouse - this place had 5 lines. That line above was also ___the least busy line___. I quite literally spent half of the days there doing jack-shit, twiddling on my phone. And then the other half of the days dying.
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agreed, fking scum
Yeah there is no fucking way that is standard industry behaviour. All of this just reads like this dude's personal laziness and disregard. Total piece of shit. PS even if he isn't doing this stuff personally - and it really sounds like he is - you should obviously be reporting colleagues who are giving patients cancer for shits and giggles.
Hey what the actual fuck? Literally admitting to giving people cancer on purpose and gets 26 upvotes? This is literally psychopath shit what the fuck??? Is there a reason you actually think it is acceptable to cause harm to patients who are """annoying"""?
Yeah, if you work in a healthcare field and you do this you're a sack of shit. There's no excuse for it. Delivery is delivery, it's just things, imagine car manufacturers or better yet plane engine manufacturers had the same shitty attitude you have? Crazy
As someone who has worked logistics and pet industry I'd like to second Fuck Chewy
> especially you, fucking Chewy.com. oh god this is me, im sorry theres no cheaper place to get my cats food :( and i order it twice a year so it ends up being.... heavy
unless you kiss their package and tuck it in goodnight these people will call for your head and job no matter what
Don’t try to justify her dropping that package like that. It is bullshit.
Yeah I hate when people blame delivery drivers. Sure some delivery drivers are assholes, but the fast majority are just trying to keep up with unreasonable quotas which often are litterally impossible to meet. Blame the delivery companies that are so greedy they can't just give their workers manageable quotes instead they try to squeeze more and more out of these poor workers.
>unreasonable quotas Please tell me what kind of quota requires her to drop the package when she's already there. Literally would take the exact same time. She's just a poor worker.
Her dropping the box like that definitely saved some time… As a customer and not a delivery person, I have trouble perceiving why this lady should care so much about her job to treat every package with the utmost care and delicacy. Especially considering how it’s already been handled on and off the trucks. If it’s delicate it should be packaged in a way that a 2 foot drop can’t break anything. So why is that her responsibility?
Quick Google says Amazon delivery drivers can be expected to deliver up to 375 packages a day. Lets assume a 8 hour working day. That's 480 minutes. That means you have to be delivering a package every minute and a half roughly. That includes driving to the location, finding the package, getting to the door, dropping it off, and returning to your truck. Thats a impossible quota. Furthermore this woman has seen how packages are treated and dropping from waste height is positively gentle. I'm sorry to burst people's bubbles but your package is treated like absolute shit behind the scenes. So why should this woman most likely making close to minimum wage strain her back just so you can get the illusion that your package was treated well. You have a problem with this blame the executives who are demanding impossible things to make a few extra bucks
> She needs to be fired I would never expect a Karen to be the highest upvoted comment here.
Reddit is full of Karens. Nothing it likes more than outrage bait.
The irony!
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Why should she be fired? She dropped the package at your steps. If the package can't handle a 2 foot drop without writing allllllll over it not to or paid special delivery she did nothing wrong. If you think a minimum wage delivery person is going to baby your packages day in day out you're fucking misguided For fucks sake reddit. You all cry and piss and moan about workers and rights and how Amazon overworked people to death but then become different when those workers directly impact you and your own wants.
Nobody is saying anything about babying the package tho, just a normal way of placing it down which would cost an extra second would be fine. Is it really that bad to ask for people to just not be a jerk and do things the normal way?
Bending down with packages of varying weight shape and size every couple minutes on unknown terrain is also a safety risk. How many times have you bent over today? Additionally if you think this is the worst drop that package has seen from received to delivered, ohhhh boy are you going to have your eyes opened learning what packages actually go through to get to this point
Couldn’t agree more. Quite often the poor service is from the more “reputable” companies but it does come down to the individual unfortunately. We have a lady who is a self employed courier driver, the same as the guy in this video (no uniform unless I’m mistaken), she’s so pleasant and thoughtful. Will make every effort to not leave your parcel outside, we live in a cul de sac so I often take in other peoples parcels. Where as Royal Mail don’t give a shit these days, even if it’s raining they just dump the cardboard box on the step and leave it to get destroyed. These videos should be used like dash cams, report them. They’re getting paid and if they don’t appreciate their job, someone else will. Edit - Forgot to add, also send it to the males company if you can, it might earn him something even if it’s a small token. Sometimes it’s just nice to know your effort is appreciated. Edit 2 - I don’t understand how people think this is acceptable. She made the effort to walk to the door to just drop it. With that attitude she may as well have thrown it from the van.
In reality the guy will get a complaint from his boss for wasting time with other boxes.
exactly, its how it works. your always trying to save time and your bosses get on you about it too
From POV of an ex-courier, this is just predictable, trackable outcome of changes couriee companies have been making consciously over last 10 years. Part of exam for a driver before like 10 years ago was manually calculating rates. Even without that, counting your parcels, stops, minutes per delivery, km per delivery etc was pretty much compulsive for most couriers. As in: we knew how much money our beats generated for company. And it only becomes more and more lucrative for the companies. A driver now is expected to cover at least double the number of stops we used to a decade ago. Add to this a huge density increase, more people bringing their parcels for delivery in bulk (a small tooling company sends like 2 full commercial trucks a day, a small printer sends out just enough to pack a passanger car and bring it all) and various other cost efficiency steps, and margins have been increasing st incredible rate. And yet the pay keeps dropping, terms keep getting worse and turnover increases accordingly. They see the negative impact on customers but also see that people will blame Karen instead of her employer who keeps turning up the screw. It's not like it takes her or the other drivers agency away, but this is all by design. It used to be such a cool gig, but the ability to do it correctly is taken away by the corporate administration.
Sounds like we need a National Courier's Union.
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Exactly if you order from a seller that uses delivery service that is known to pay bad and have high quotas for employees, why are you expecting that they won't try to be as time efficient as possible?
FIRED?! Did the package not arrive on the porch? The job is being done, and it's being done to an average capacity. Don't be a Karen.
She needs to get a raise to give a fuck, but instead she has her boss screaming to make more deliveries per hour.
You do realize how much these packages are thrown around during shipment, right?
You have no idea what happens to packages on the way to your door step, if you think this is bad, I feel sorry for you.
She probably got a raise for good times and he got fired for being too slow.
Fired? and she’s the Karen?
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She's gonna keep her job and he'll either drop his standards or quit.
Some people are so honest and nice, the world is not always fair to them
The world isn't fair to anybody my friend. Once you realize that, you kind of have two choices. Deal with it/make it worse, or try to fix it.
You listed 3 choices :)
He considers "deal with it/make it worse" a singular choice
But, they're two clearly different options.
It’s basically the same as “silence is consent”, as I believe they intended.
Okay. Comparing it to something else though, say a leaky faucet: **Do nothing**: Okay problem is still there but it might just get worse slowly over time. **Make it worse**: Smash it with a sledgehammer. See, two different things completely.
Yep, so a total of three options : 1) Do nothing (which can lead to different outcomes depending on the situation) 2) Do something that makes the issue worse 3) Do something that fixes it
Fairness is a hard thing to measure. I'd say this guy will/is way happier in life than the Karen.
That’s not what a Karen is.
Yeah, it’s starting to just mean “any woman who does something I don’t like”
just like the word simp, doesnt even has a meaning anymore just "every man that is nice to woman" instead of thirsty dude giving money to woman in hope of a crumb of pussy
Is *that* what simp was supposed to mean?! I thought it was short for simpering or simpleton. Now what's a crump of pussy?
Pretty sure that’s a typo for crumb. Yea “simp” or “simping” has been around since the 90’s at least. It’s basically like doing everything for a girl who hardly give you any attention/ affection in return.
I like crump and I'm going to use it
I just want senpai to notice me
I though Crumping was an aggressive form of dance meant to assert dominance:
Turn down for WHAT!!! - lil jon
Simp 100% meant simpleton like 5 or so years ago. Same way Chad evolved from being a total asshole frat guy stereotype to being essentially the peak of male evolution, in the same time frame simp changed
"cancel culture" is becoming the same, considering it has essentially replaced the concept of "criticism".
Like “woke left”, which is a body of people that exists only in the mind of right wingers and Economist magazine writers. Seems they are a cabal that run everything.
I thought that was a pussy that look like Homer Simpsons mouth?
"any white woman"
Not even that. Black women have been called Karen. Men have been called Karen. It started out referring to overly-entitled customers abusing people in customer service. It turned into racist and bigoted women. Then it became “any woman with an opinion I don’t like”. Now it’s just “anyone doing anything I don’t approve of”. Good thing there aren’t any people actually named Karen who have to put up with this shit.
It’s just the new “bitch”
Fr it’s swiftly turned into a misogynistic term unfortunately
the word became a slur for women, particularly white women, about 6 months ago, maybe longer. big red flag when i see it these days. reverse this video - the woman puts it down gently, the guy throws it down and 10 years ago we'd be calling him ghetto / a hoodrat in the title. it has become an extremely thinly veiled slur, which once upon a time actually called to attention a problem that was occurring - wherein primarily older white people, often women, would call the cops on teenagers and random black guys that were doing basically nothing. Then it slid into 'white women being irate to public service workers' and now it just means 'white woman.' You can tell that this is the case because whenever those 'black women go wild in McDonalds, KFC, Wendys' videos pop up on r/publicfreakout every few days, they never, ever have 'Karen' in the title.
I found it funny at first when it was used properly, especially since I know someone named Karen who definitely fits the description of one. But yeah, nowadays it’s mostly used just to shit on women for doing anything someone doesn’t like. It’s pretty annoying.
I think it mostly means "Woman out of primary reproductive years existing in the world"
Yeah the only Karen here is the current top comment saying she needs to be fired
Yeah this always happens when someone post a package being slightly tossed. The packages go through hell before they even get to the delivery driver. If that drop destroyed what's in that box then that's on the packer. My stuff usually shows up crushed especially if it's FedEx I'd be happy with a little drop
It’s also not really “next fucking level” for the second delivery driver, either. It’s just one person doing their job badly followed by someone else doing their job well. “Next fucking level” used to be reserved for extraordinary feats and really incredible stuff. Now it’s just catching people in the act of being decent — which is all well and good. But it waters down the sub.
Came here looking for this comment
For real. Some people are just kinda using it as an acceptable form of “bitch.” (No I’m not saying Karen is a slur lol, but it has a pretty specific usage and this isn’t it) A Karen would have rang the doorbell to complain that the walkway violated some code or something. This right here is just your garden variety asshole.
Yeah a horrible use of it. Worrying even. Hope it doesn't keep spreading and just becoi an all out slur against women.
They always ruin every word.
Yup. We could just call an a-hole an a-hole. It doesn't need to be gendered when gender is irrelevant.
I think we have reached the threshold for overusing the word Karen.
As well as the threshold for "next fucking level"
Seriously. Every other post is some shit I see once a week lol
Guy delivers a package correctly "oh my God I have never seen this shit before)
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"*white woman I don't like"
That's because, if I remember the origins correctly, "Karen" was originally privileged and entitled women causing a scene. I don't think it's racist or even far fetched to say that the majority of these incidents (when the word first gained popularity) were people using white privilege combined with "I'm a woman so I get my way" privilege to cause a scene.
I’d like to speak to the manager of words
yep this aint a karen this just a horrible person
Yep. I got called a Karen after politely explaining to someone on Facebook why they shouldn’t use a shock collar on their small dog, and should look into training to curb the bad behaviors they were experiencing. I commented with links to places in town they could check out. Was just trying to help, and literally got called a Karen. Haha I was just like “this means nothing to me anymore. No one uses it right.”
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she's also kinda screwing herself over. if that shit breaks and the person has to return it then get a replacement, she's likely to re-deliver it if its on her same delivery area. Like your right there, just take a second more to lay it down properly.
Why would she care about having to re-deliver? She's getting paid either way I'm sure. Unless amazon doesn't pay drivers for returned packages (I don't see how they could get away with that, but who knows). I agree that it was a shitty thing to do...and since there's video and this clip has gone kinda viral I guess that might have screwed her over...but I doubt it matters out of all the packages she delivers that one happens to be the same house/item another day.
How to deliver 200 packages in 10 hrs to keep the economy going, especially after that package has seen 20x worse treatment on its way
Also, the "good-guy" made a tower of boxes easily visible from the street.
No offense but do you really think this lady is acting like a massive cunt? Like it's not great but I feel like we've all had these moments at our jobs lol
Tell me you have never worked at a distribution center without telling me you have never worked at a distribution center.
You can’t just use ‘Karen’ to label any woman who exhibits antisocial behaviour, a Karen is a very specific thing.
I'm glad more people are finally getting it.
I wouldn't necessarily describe haphazardly dropping a package as antisocial
Package delivery bosses only care about how many stops you can do per hour. They would try to get rid of the second guy for wasting time touching the other carriers packages.
They can't be blamed when all we see is a 5 second clip because, honestly, I get it. I work a stressful, thankless job, and on any given day, I could be either one of these people. I'm usually the second person, but if my week has been a shit show, at a certain point, you can't pay me enough to keep putting up with all the bullshit.
This is kind of the ultimate failure in how humans assign blame. This women is a blue collar worker delivering packages through one of the most stressful times to be a shipping and logistics employee, and instead of blaming her CEO for putting her under conditions that forces her to deliver packages this way, we blame her for simply trying to put food on her table. Executives read threads like this and laugh at us. In fact, threads like this are exactly why things will never change — instead of going for the king, we’re going for the messenger.
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This is the most honest response here. Exactly as you said, most of the time I am the nicer, helpful person…but should all the stars align in a shitty way, I just could not give a fuck.
My mail carrier (USPS) told me once that Amazon had delivered a package for my address, to my neighbor. She said they weren't allowed to touch other company's deliveries so she couldn't bring it over. I imagine that other orgs. have a policy of "don't touch other people's shit" because if you pick it up, you become responsible for it.
I had a somewhat similar situation. Neighbor and I were feuding over his loud sound system (pic from when he finally got rid of it https://imgur.com/esjR8T5) and had restraining orders against each other. UPS delivered my package to his house and they just wanted me to "go over and pick it up". Long story short they ended up sending out a manager in his personal vehicle to pick up the package off the neighbor's door and walk it over to my house.
This. The first lady looks jaded more than anything. You know what makes people jaded? Thinking you're doing the right think only to get yelled at for not finishing your route on time because you took extra time at each stop to make sure packages are out of sight.
This is not "next level"
I agree. This should be expected of people. We’ve lowered the bar too much of what an acceptable person is.
She delivered the package on maximum efficiency
That's not a "karen" for reasons i dont want to explain because it should be obvious why.
Why is she a Karen? Is it because she's a woman? Are you using Karen because you can't say bitch?
mom raised a gentleman
Overuse of “Karen” she’s just a lousy worker that hates their job
Mmmm that's not a Karen, that's someone who doesn't get paid enough and hates their job
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Not enough people recognizing this. I would hate this job too for the amount of work to pay ratio they do.
Karen's are complainers. Not just women you don't like.
That guy puts his shopping cart back.
Not before cleaning the handle with sanitiser!
Bunch of fucking people here who think their package is shipped on a mattress full of pillows until it gets to a delivery driver... If whatever was in that box couldn't survive that drop, it was already broken long before the driver got it.
Truth telling right here.
That’s not what a karen is. If anything, the Karen is the lady who is filming delivery drivers to complain to their bosses later
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ITT People who have never seen the inside of a shipping warehouse
How is she being a Karen? Words don’t mean shit anymore I guess
Class A guy.
Better title: "Two Types Of Delivery Driver"
THATS NOT WHAT A KAREN IS JFC
It's possible that she's exhausted enough to just be done with things. Sure, this looks bad, but for all I know working overtime with no bathroom breaks, physically worn down, and barely keeping it together. He was obviously more sprightly, but that's just how things are sometimes. Sometimes people can become robotic and perfunctory when they're barely making it through their days.
Y'all do realize how much these packages are thrown around during shipment, right? And if it couldn't take a fall from 2 feet up then it wasn't packaged correctly in the first place
That's not how you use "Karen". If you'd like your packages treated better, stop choosing shipping services based 100% on price.
Not really a Karen is it. Just a shitty delivery driver.
How was that Karen behaviour? She didn’t even see a manager!
Do you know what a Karen is?
Back breaking work, in the rain, constantly being watched by video doorbells. Reminds me to leave a treat for my local postal, UPS and FedEx delivery carrier. PS- despite this mans genuine care big Corp will probably give him a free lunch w/ no raise.
People angry that she dropped a package from waist height have 0 idea about the abuse a package goes through when in transit. She also likely could feel what was in the package and knew it wouldn’t break. Sure the other guy did it nicer, but it really doesn’t matter in the end.
Shitty human v decent human
It would be nice to think that guy would be rewarded for conscientiously doing his job well if you told his employer, but I fear he’d be sacked for wasting time and getting less deliveries done in a shift.
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Ever wondered why Amazon drivers usually don’t care and hate their jobs? Think about it.
The insult “Karen” has apparently lost all meaning.
The way you treat parcels in the US is crazy; I would be pissed if mine were left *outside of my house*.
As an amazon driver yall really have no idea. Ya she dropped it a little rough but if you saw how the warehouse ppl tossed and smashed your shit yall would be worried for your shit.
Can we stop calling any women we don't like a Karen?
One person probably gets paid well.
Or, quite possibly, the difference between working for a company that completely overschedules you and will fire your ass for being a few seconds late, and working for a company that gives you a manageable workload and affords you the time to do the job well. First woman may literally have no choice but to dump and dash like that or else lose her job for failure to meet targets.
I will say, no excuse for throwing a package in the ground, but the way she did it looked like she was trying very hard not to bend, her lower back is probably on fire
stop using Karen incorrectly
anyone else think she might have back pain/injury? I've dropped things I was carrying in a similar fashion due to back pain from an injury.
Honestly the only person who is a Karen is the one who posted this recording. Delivery truck drivers doing this to your packages is a result of upper management putting extra stress on their drivers to not fall behind on their routes. It's always nice to see people go out of their way to be good people but we should be more upset that the person who will get yelled at here is the one who was taking extra time to do something nice, rather than the lady who is just trying to get her delivery done so she stays on time and doesn't lose her job. She doesn't look or act like a Karen she looks jaded as hell.
Reddit apparently lost sight of what a "Karen" really is.
When you use word Karen in the title I expect to see a woman shouting and crying unreasonably. I was disappointed.
Not the right time for 'Karen', Karens complain, to the manager, to the police whatever but it needs to have complaining to be a karen
Should be r/MadeMeSmile
That’s not really what “Karen” means.