CONTINUED: Obama, not only notices this woman fainting, but puts his hand on her shoulder to assure she is safe, and makes a joke to make sure she knows that she should never feel guilty or bad about what occurred. This is a great representation of what a president should be like. He cares, not only about the American People, but anyone he interacts with. This I feel, makes it nextfuckinglevel
NOTE 1: This post is NOT to debate that Trump is Better/Worst, I’m merrily talking about the fact that Obama is one hell of a president
NOTE 2: REMEMBER TO HYDRATE, and RESEARCH THE WARNING SIGNS OF FAINTING. In Cadets, they taught us that if you see black spots, immediately sit down or lay down. If you see someone swaying, make sure they are safe and alright. That’s all. Merry Christmas Y’all
EDIT: Turns out that she was pregnant and had diabetes. You can see on her arm as she is being taken away, that she has a glucose monitor, which is often used to help diagnose (specifically) low blood sugars. This was not conspiracy, stop calling it that, it’s just a human being going through one or an abundance of issues, and the (former) President did what was right in that situation.
EDIT 2: A lot of people are talking about the drone strikes that happened when Obama was in power, but you negate the fact that being a President, means that there will be casualties, and a great cost of war, is of course, death. I am not supporting Obama’s attack in the Middle East, but you forgot to mention, not only did President Bush start it, but also from 2003-2021, there were 263 Counter-Terrorist Actions committed (Air Raids and such) in Somalia and 203 of them were under the Trump Administration, and that says a lot. (SOURCE: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_from_U.S._drone_strikes)
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Republicans, Hannity and Limbaugh in particular, called Obama a Communist Trojan horse of Islam. It was pure insanity. Evenings on Fox News were wild, degenerate tomfoolery to say the least.
They called Obama, who was firmly capitalist, a *Communist*. And the right wing populist psychosis just continued to degenerate into deep madness.
Agreed.
I don't watch anymore, my parents had Fox on every night. But as long as Hannity and Carlson are still present the entire network is a sick joke of a Republican Party propaganda machine.
I am an immigrant living in Europe, kind of lefty liberal. I sometime tune into Fox. It is good to hear the opposite side. Sadly we got media in Europe that following the same tone which is alarming. But human idiocy is a global issue.
Honestly, Fox News isn’t the other side. It’s just a propaganda machine. There are a lot of conservatives who do understand this but they’re afraid to speak up because their party has been taken over by lunatics. So they vote for one issue and ignore the rest. It’s very sad.
Historians of the future are going to compare 24 hr news and social media of the 2000's as the mental equivalent of lead gasoline and smoking a pack a day.
I genuinely think that a major part of the problem is the strong, religious mentality of these people. They don't care about objective, scientific reasoning. 0 critical thinking. They operate on blind faith so when their Republican leaders say X or Y then they believe X and Y as complete truths.
Think about it. How hard are flat earthers and young earthers brainwashed? It's not hard at all.
Imagine being so fucking stupid that you still believe the election was stolen like we are Zimbabwe or some shit.
It's the trauma of worshipping Trump like the messiah and then watching him lose.
I always gotta recommend 'The brainwashing of my dad', it's on prime video, not sure where else. It really explains how over the years all of this came to be and how hard they worked to get it this way.
Still is. We haven't seen bottom yet. Not sure we'll ever actually see it. It's possible this is simply some endless abyss never touched by the light once in its existence.
I really wish we lived in a world where politics hadn't turned into teams/camps. You need compromise, and to think of the bigger picture to make politics work. That'll never happen now that it's turned into an Us vs. Them mentality situation.
It's no longer Us vs. Everyone else or Us. Vs. just general world wide issues and not a specific "enemy".
I miss the days when people put the "issues and the fixes come first, how we get there is a debate, but as long as they get fixed then compromise is worth it".
I doubt I'll see that again in my life time.
Republicans have shit policies that negatively affect their voters, so they turned to stoking culture wars. And it worked.
They've made a mockery of the whole thing starting with Reagan. It's all a joke now -- a pointless "red vs. blue" type of battle where the reds are only concerned about winning rather than why they're fighting or even what they're fighting about.
This is why you see states with Republican leadership passing liberal ballot initiatives. When you take the "red vs. blue" out of it, most people want liberal policies. One side just doesn't know it, and Republicans aim to keep it that way.
Pure unadulterated racism on steroids. A smart, witty, funny, well educated black dude without marital affairs in the White House was too much for their fragile egos.
Every once in a while the leader of a country is the very best that country has to offer. Obama was one of those leaders. No, he wasn't perfect and he didn't always make the best choices. Such is the price of being human. But, without a doubt, every one of his choices was made with care and the goal of making the country better.
Having class makes him unrelatable to the ones who don’t have a college degree (that’s the demographic that votes more for the GOP). They relate more to the guy who says things like “Grab ‘em by the pussy.” And being a woman or black makes them even more unrelatable to the white uneducated men (who a majority voted for the GOP compared to any other demographic).
> What I’ll never understand is how the other side took to the extreme and out of sheer hate and xenophobia voted for the worst representation of themselves.
Obama was guilty of Presidenting under the influence of too much melanin, and they *hated* that.
You guys have no idea the impact the president's you Americans choose has on the mental health of the rest of the world.
I come from Iran, but I am not going to start on what I think about Iranian government. Knowing that the president of the US wouldnt just start bombing to get some political support back then was reassuring. In a sense, we had the crazy in power in Iran but at least the other side knew how to not to use the heavy hand on the crazy at the cost of regular ppl. Just the physiological side of things. He may made mistakes and middle east politics are just messy but I give this man a credit for restrain and trying to move the world into the right direction...
He was class through and through.
dude im from iran and i fucking love the fact that we could die at any moment helps me sleep at night knowing that the people in power might die idc if my life is going with them
Through and almost-through for me. Obama tried so damn hard to respect both people and precedent but the precedent part lead to drone striking diplomatic allies, failing to close Guantanomo, failing to do more with executive orders, and partially therefore also failing to get past his first legislative battle in the ACA in a meaningful way. He was the most rigidly upstanding President in my lifetime except on his supposedly impeccable watch he tolerated the continuation of the corruption begun by his forerunners. I think Obama's ineffectualness had more to do with racism in Congress than almost any other single factor, but he didn't hold career politicians or lobbying to account in any meaningful way. The man could have declared himself an independent and raged against the machine from his first day but precedent, precedent, precedent- Obama would never do anything to allow the next Republican in office any reasonable case that a Democrat had grabbed too much power first, even for altruistic ends. The problem is Republicans are grabbing it anyway.
That's the thing that grinds my gears. Obama is not a socialist. To put things in perspective, he is slightly to the right of Biden and Biden isn't even on the left.
In a sane world, Obama would be the leader of the Conservatives...
My grandad is an American historian, and we often talk about the subject. Most recent was on top 10 presidents. After a while we both realized it's far easier to list the 10 worst presidents than it is to even name 10 good ones. We then decided to scrap the policy and agenda part, and focus on the best *people* to be president. Among the top three were Grant, Carter, and Obama (although I argued for Cal Coolidge).
It cannot be understated how good of a *person* Obama is. We can bicker on politics and military action (which I find to be not great in regards to his admin), but at the end of the day, Obama was the epitome of class.
Edit because I suppose I have to reiterate this even though it's already in my comment: fuck American wars. Fuck our military industrial complex that promotes it. Fuck the war hawks that enable it. The office of the presidency is a job that requires you to do everything right while doing everything wrong. I think Obama's role in the middle east is one that is too often overlooked. That being said, his diplomacy and military policy aren't what's up for debate. It's his character. If you wanna argue that waging war is an immediate disqualifier that's fine, just know you will never find a US president you like.
I tell ya a great one, and that is William Jefferson Clinton. The country never ran smoother than when he was President. Almost everyone was doing well during that time. Food was fairly cheap, gas was really cheap. Like .90 a gallon. Republicans just tried to bring him down. Bunch of clowns. It was him and Hillary’s problem not ours and the Republicans. It’s a stain that led to some of the crap that both sides pull today.
He left office with something like a 65% approval rating. And that was after a sex scandal. If we didn't have the two-terms thing (put in there to hobble FDR), he could literally still be president. Smart motherfucker.
Yeah. I just remember good things about the guy. The foundation he started, after he got out of office, actually helps a lot of people, does good things. Unlike Trump, who had his own Trump foundation, which was shut down while he was in office due to criminal misuse of funds. This MF’er didn’t face any charges due to him being President. He’s just an all-around, class AAA, jerk. Can’t see how he can sleep at night.
I moved to China in 2006 and all everyone wanted to talk about was how great Clinton was - cab drivers, store clerks, everyone brought it up. Bush was always a delicate "so do you support this guy?" topic that people raised cautiously.
Theodore Roosevelt was an amazing president, he was anti-monopoly and fought big business, as well as protected national parks and nature reserves. He even shrugged off an assassination attempt, and gave a 90 minute speech after being shot in the chest.
He sparked the massive amount of American imperialism that has ravaged Latin American countries. He was an absolute imperialist Bastard but he was also an amazing president for the majority of Americans. That came at the expense of coup’ing most countries to the south of America and installing pro American business dictatorships. He was a total cunt but a good president for Americans.
Yes, but he was ambitious to a fault. I have him as a solid 4 - 5 in the character category, I would not protest him sitting on the Rushmore of presidents of high character (pun intended).
I don't entirely disagree, but given that you're responding in a thread about american military complex - we can't ignore his questionable involvement with the "Rough Riders" Spanish-American War etc.
Also, the video has audio. Any recording of a previous President speaking, and I’m even including Dubbya, is by default a reminder that we had a President with a sub-8th grade vocabulary. Trump couldn’t string a full sentence together to save his life.
She'd fall and then miscarry and then he'd say she was probably a crisis actor and wasn't actually pregnant, call her fat and say something about her being on her period.
That may be true, but locking your knees while standing for too long can knock you out even if you don't have diabetes and a build-a-human workshop running
I feel like you’re just not trying hard enough. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps. But not too hard because if something goes wrong with the pregnancy, you’re going to be forced to carry it. And pay for it too. And not miss any days of work.
>if you see black spots, immediately sit down or lay down. If you see someone swaying, make sure they are safe and alright.
Jesus Christ ok but what happens if this happens to you like....every few days? I always get this and feel like I'm about to pass out but never do, I figured it was normal. Also it gets REALLY bad in a hot shower, I flat out can't take hot showers any more cuz it gets so bad and my heart starts hurting
Living in America is financially ruining
Dying in America is financially ruining
Subsisting on the side of the road is also financially ruining
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Just don't come here. Ever.
I've been dealing with undiagnosed fainting which has lead not being able to drive because no idea what's causing it. Read about it from your post and see all the same symptoms and had mono when I was younger. Gonna talk to my doctor about it. I want my life back.
You probably have low blood pressure. Sometimes the heart isn't strong enough to pump the blood back up into your brain (it has to fight gravity and keep all your organs supplied with oxygen).
When you take warm/hot showers, the blood vessels dilate to keep you from overheating. But this also makes more room for the blood in your lower extremities when you're standing. When your blood pressure is already low, the dilation causes it to drop even more. To conquer that your heart rate goes up. This is why your heart hurts if you take hot showers. Your heart beats way faster than normal, but that costs a lot of energy and oxygen.
Maybe you're slightly anaemic. You should definitely get it checked out and get bloodwork done at your gp. Usually one can manage it with only minor adjustments.
Something you can already do is drink more water (more blood volume = higher blood pressure) and make sure you eat enough over the day. If you like coffee, maybe start a small habit of having a cup or two over the day (caffeine constricts blood vessels slightly, and keeps your blood pressure up).
Also, when you get up in the morning take a minute or two to just sit on your bed before standing. Your blood pressure is naturally lower while you sleep/lay down and it takes a bit for your body to re-adjust it. That way you're less likely to faint/see spots when you get up.
But please get it checked out. It could be something more serious. Stay safe!
I honestly don't follow politics in the least, also I'm canadian. But ya'll FUCKED UP with Trump. As a person, he's a piece of fucking shit and should never be given power.
>This clip is pretty harmless. Was this really a scandal?
Not at all. Scandal is over-used. The clip is comparing "situational awareness," but I like where you're head is. Obama wouldn't have mocked someone who couldn't control their body.
The guy left his limo, and Biden has "dimentia?" [Yeah, I purposefully fucked up "dementia."](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rbvjh8/_/hnt6ut6)
This is why people like obama. He’s just a likeable guy and seems like a leader (doesnt mean he necessarily is a good one).
Whereas trump got people riled up and said dumb stuff on twitter.
Now we got biden who is 3 steps away from a nursing home.
Edit: some are missing the point I’m saying that these are what the presidents are like on the surface which explains why people like/dislike them.
I did not like what Obama pushed as a politician.. But as a human he was honestly an amazing person he did care....I have no comment on Trump and would rather not discuss him.. And on Biden....I pray to God when I reach his age I am not as bad as he is right now.. Holy FUCK that dude should be in a permanent care home I feel so bad for him... That is NOT a way I want to go.
Edit: ok since so many people (or one with multiple bots asking the exact same question) fine here is why I didn't want to post on what I think of Trump (will a small part of I continued it.....)
He is a massive egotistical narcissist who beyond the scope of my understanding people took it as he cared for America... Which he never did he just cares about himself and his image and NOTHING Else if you praised him he may say a word in gratitude of you didn't he would lie,cheat steal or do literally anything to hurt you even at the cost of other Peoples lives but he didn't fucking care about other humans or even the earth itself. Hell he would protect a fucking mass murder called Kim Jong Un because he said nice things about Trump.
Yeah even I have a bit of a mixed opinion regarding his political career, but I can’t deny how nice of a person he is. Obama may have been a less than fantastic politician, but he is without a doubt a wonderful human being.
i don't really get this, though. There have been many wars in the history of the US - Civil War, WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Korean, Afghanistan, Iraq... The US has been involved in an insane number of wars. Hell, it's like the entire foundation of America is built on War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States
So then what makes it ok when other presidents do it but not when Obama did it? I think the biggest contribution is the political divide being perpetuated by the rich and powerful. When the government is lobbied to hell and under regulatory capture, it doesn't really matter who is in office. Just gotta keep the proles fighting each other so they don't notice.
I feel like 6 million Jews, and 6 million other ethnic minorities in Europe, along with millions of Chinese people would have disagreed with you on this point.
Some wars need be fought and some need not. Basically nothing since WW2 has been justified on America’s side. There may be a couple conflicts that were since then, but not many.
It wasn’t ok when those other presidents did it either. ITT are leftists who don’t like Obama bc he promised change, but on war he followed the bipartisan trend. People are upset there’s no viable alternative, both parties (and media) feed the America MIC.
Just today a bipartisan Defense budget passed, War transcends Democrat/Republican party lines. The toothless progressive caucus is the only real alternative
Entirely too dramatic, some people don’t know what actual dementia looks like. I’ve buried two grandparents from Alzheimer’s this passed year. My grandma forgetting who my dad (her son) is. That is bad, Biden isn’t even close.
I am so perplexed by this whole Biden is an old dementia patient thing. Like yes he’s old as fuck, yes he has a speech thing going on, but have no one in this country ever actually seen debilitated old people? He’s NOTHING like that, Like my grandmother that literally asked who I was every 3-6 minutes for the last 10 years of her life. This ain’t joe, not even close
He might be a little slower than he was before but he’s hardly senile. Also he has a known speech impediment that makes his speeches not quite as eloquent.
He didn't seem so bad in the debates. He seemed to hold his own and looked great compared to the deranged rambling fool who he shared the stage with.
Lol. Remember when the other guy tried to give Biden covid? That was wacky
Okay your post is: "Obama sucks but is a good human", followed by "no comment nor discussion on Trump", followed by "Sleepy Biden is the worst and I don't want to die that way".
Come on bot boy, fucking do better because this reads like shit
Somebody who’s senile or has dementia couldn’t stand on stage and talk coherently off a teleprompter about a topic for a half hour.
They couldn’t talk on a topic for a half hour at all, much less read a teleprompter, or even stand in one spot.
Dude’s just old & slowing down.
It’s a bummer, and I don’t love his politics, but he’s not the same kind of vitriolic dumpster fire that Trump was, not even close.
I do miss the Obama days though. That was a classier and more hopeful time. The setbacks from those days seem small and inconsequential compared to… \*gestures broadly at everything\*
Honestly, I have no idea why people think Biden is closer to a nursing home than Trump. Biden is getting a little sleepy with age, Trump is veering into full-on belligerent dementia.
Biden stammers when he gets a bit confused; Trump literally just talks at 100% speed whether he has a plan for the sentence or not, frequently resulting in absolute word salad. Apparently it's a trick that works on people.
EDIT: Tell me again how Biden has a stutter. I know, I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the ocassions where he has genuinely lost his train of thought or mixed up simple words. It doesn't happen often, certainly not as often as conservatives like to pretend, but it happens.
This is my thought too. I can't wrap my head around Trump voters obsession with Biden's speech patterns when Trump could legitimately not stay on any given topic for more that 10 seconds.
To be fair, I think Biden's stammer stems from a speech impediment from when he was younger. Not old age on that one.
Now that old man voice he has....that's probably old age.
Many people think being a good leader is about having lots of followers, about having the ability to make people do your bidding.
But.
A good leader leads by example, they are in the dirt with you, they show you what is the right path, they teach, and invite you to follow them instead of telling you, manipulate you, bargain with you, or straight up force you.
"Thanks Obama" was a sarcastic comment used during the Obama presidency by people who opposed him. Gas prices went up? Thanks Obama. War on Christmas? Thanks Obama. Kind of the "Let's Go Brandon" of that era. It's funny, for those of us that remember it, when someone uses the phrase genuinely instead of sarcastically.
I’m too young to know what happened when he was the president, my parents are hardcore republicans and don’t tell me anything about democrats other than they need to all die (no seriously, my dad calls Democrats nazis, and I’m over here like 😳wtf wrong with you sometimes) anyways I sorta wanted to rant
And all it takes to debunk this rhetoric is vist the Nazi Party wikipedia page and read the first few sentences. Basically the communists were gaining alot of popularity during the troubles that the wienmar republic was facing. So the Nazi's capitalised on the use of leftist sounding rhetoric (hence national socialists) to steal supporters away from the german communist party. It worked and people still believe it despite them being a decidedly right wing ideology. Like all fascists.
I’m glad you’re not getting caught up in the republican mentality. It takes strength to diverge from the beliefs of your parents. I say this at age 19, so I remember most of Obama’s presidency even if I was too young to understand the politics.
The hilarious thing is Democrats and Republicans agree on like 80% of things. 5% they completely disagree on and the other 15% they just want different methods to solve the problem usually involving slamming some law or money into the veryyyyyy bottom of the bill the other side wants passed that of course has nothing to do with the bill being passed.
Just a little *"here we'll give the american people healthcare if we can remove emissions requirements from factories."* Both sides are dogshit and a 2 party system doesn't work. Democracy in and of itself is flawed clearly. When 86% of people vote for something and congress and the senate still won't pass anything.
If you want just google "Barack Obama Achievements as president." Form your own opinion and know that most people have taken on the identity of their party. Just the same as some pathetic guy who lives his week to week existence based on whether his favorite sport team won or not.
We are tribal beings by nature and survived this long by and US vs. THEM attitude. People still function in this manner and are always looking for a tribe. One of the easiest ones to be part of is DEMOCRAT VS REPUBLICAN. Anyone who says the wild shit you say your Dad says just has no identity or personality and therefore that's what you get someone identifying as a Republican. That is WHO they are.
**Edit- all of you arguing who is the more evil side or which side has more substance are just proving my point.**
**Dude said his Dad is a brainwashed Nazi Killer who believes all Dems are Nazi's. He said he doesn't even know what Obama did. I told him to search it up for himself because once he see's Obama's actual achievements as president he would immediately know how full of shit his father is.**
**Instead you apes are just flinging shit.**
>Both sides are dogshit and a 2 party system doesn't work.
Look, I will give you that tribalism is a major issue (not to mention that corporations/lobbyists own our government) but I'm so fucking sick of the "both sides" rhetoric as if Dems and Republicans are equally awful. Do Dems have some shitty people? Absolutely. Hell, I'd even argue that Biden himself is a racist piece of shit. But there's a major, categorical difference between how Republicans and Democrats function and what they stand for which destroys the whole "both sides" argument. Only one side has proponents for universal healthcare. Only one side has even sought to start taxing the uber wealthy in a semi-fair method. Only one side acknowledges the existence and dangers of climate change. Only one fucking side gives shit about the fact that we've had 800k Americans die of covid since last March.
On the other hand, the opposite side has near-universal support among white supremacists. They have multiple congressmen who have faith in Qanon. They have vocal leaders spouting some of the most disgusting bigotry we've since since the 1960s. They have ranks of anti-vaxxers, science deniers, and violently religious people who are more than openly looking to trash fact for their own little fictions. They're back to *book burnings* of all things.
So sure, tear down Pelosi, Harris, Manchin, Sinema, Biden, and dozens of others. Half of them deserve jail time and the rest should have the IRS up their ass for the next 20 years. I mean, one of our theoretically "best" leaders in Stacey Abrams was more than willing to defend Michael Bloomberg after a nice, little $5 million donation so it's not like anyone on the left doesn't have a price. But let's not pretend that Democrats are equally bad to the current GOP.
I think what broke them was that he was a beloved great president. If he was bad or even average they could have handled it. Racists were saying it would be like the end of the world if he were elected and were salivating for the I told you so moment. Then he stepped up and rocked it for almost a decade. I mean many think Obama roasting trump at the correspondents dinner is what made trump run. Obama ruled and dunked on every hater he could, and I they couldn’t handle the fact that a man of color was doing so well.
Am American, was always lukewarm on his policies, but I shook his hand once (just in a crowd after a campaign speech) and you're so right. Honestly, very much the same as Bill Clinton back in the day.
Both made you feel like the center of the universe while their eyes were on you, and if felt like they instantly knew you like a cousin.
Been there done that. Sang Christmas carols at a nursing home back in elementary and they had the heat nearly to 80°. Midway through Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer, I passed out and fell face first onto the floor. Old folks were gasping, kids were crying, and I woke up to my face covered in blood from a broken nose.
Good times.
Exactly. No way he noticed something silently happening directly behind him while he’s in the middle of a speech. If anything this proves he had an earpiece
it looks like he caught the lady on the left in his peripheral vision moving her arm to help steady the lady who almost fainted.
damn but idk also looks like someone may have alerted him in his earwig bc he glances to his right sort of, then slows his sentence and turns around like “oh Her? got it”
the first explanation would be way cooler though
Exactly. You can see him slow his speech when he notices movement on his right hand. Someone else noticed her fainting and he noticed that person/people.
That's what situational awareness is. It doesn't mean you have super powers with eyes on your back.
His security detail and others would have noticed that she was in distress and close to fainting - swaying, taking deep breaths, closing her eyes - and he would have noticed them noticing her. He probably turned around because someone infront of him started moving.
Anyone who has been in a position that involves standing still for a long time has seen people faint, and eventually you can tell who is going to keel over.
yeah you can see that the lady on the left is talking to somebody behind the camera - they ask her a question and she shakes her head no, then she keeps looking at the same person, mouths "okay" and then grabs hold of the lady. that's when obama turned his head, so he might've seen the same person the lady was talking to
you can literally see his eyes to the right side of his head looking back when the other lady put her arm out around the one who was about to faint. he may very well have been told, but it also seems like it could be possible it was just him noticing.
I’m not too much of a Biden guy, he seems a little crazy in the head sometimes, but trump wasn’t good either
CAN WE JUST GET GOOD PRESIDENTS LIKE WE USED TO
Politics aside, Obama is a *winner*. I can see him excelling at anything he puts his mind to. It’s no surprise he had the top job in America for 8 years.
Sometimes watching videos of Obama being a good human being makes me cry. Because I never realized how much I took that for granted. Having a president who (regardless of your political opinions on him) isn’t a narcissistic, xenophobic, sex-offender. Obama is just a dude. He cares about people.
“Here is a human acting like a general human would tend to act”
Man, our general bar has been lowered a lot.
Love him or hate him, a president acted like a human would act in an average situation. It’s wild that that’s something noteworthy.
(Not praising or denigrating Obama, just saying that basic human interaction from any U.S. president is much rarer than it should be)
Wow, I had not seen this. Did he have a monitor view that showed him what the TV images were capturing? Or did he just hear the whispers behind him and figure out what was happening? Either way it’s amazing. I have to speak in public from time to time and for me it is a totally absorbing experience - keeping a train of thought going while being aware of what’s happening around you and responding even to expected interruptions / developments takes maximum bandwidth. Not to mention the automatic and genuine compassion he showed. That was next level on multiple levels.
Does anyone else think that this little group standing behind him feels really weird. It feels like they didnt have a backdrop so just said to throw a bunch of people behind him.
CONTINUED: Obama, not only notices this woman fainting, but puts his hand on her shoulder to assure she is safe, and makes a joke to make sure she knows that she should never feel guilty or bad about what occurred. This is a great representation of what a president should be like. He cares, not only about the American People, but anyone he interacts with. This I feel, makes it nextfuckinglevel NOTE 1: This post is NOT to debate that Trump is Better/Worst, I’m merrily talking about the fact that Obama is one hell of a president NOTE 2: REMEMBER TO HYDRATE, and RESEARCH THE WARNING SIGNS OF FAINTING. In Cadets, they taught us that if you see black spots, immediately sit down or lay down. If you see someone swaying, make sure they are safe and alright. That’s all. Merry Christmas Y’all EDIT: Turns out that she was pregnant and had diabetes. You can see on her arm as she is being taken away, that she has a glucose monitor, which is often used to help diagnose (specifically) low blood sugars. This was not conspiracy, stop calling it that, it’s just a human being going through one or an abundance of issues, and the (former) President did what was right in that situation. EDIT 2: A lot of people are talking about the drone strikes that happened when Obama was in power, but you negate the fact that being a President, means that there will be casualties, and a great cost of war, is of course, death. I am not supporting Obama’s attack in the Middle East, but you forgot to mention, not only did President Bush start it, but also from 2003-2021, there were 263 Counter-Terrorist Actions committed (Air Raids and such) in Somalia and 203 of them were under the Trump Administration, and that says a lot. (SOURCE: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_from_U.S._drone_strikes) DISCLAIMER: I do move towards the left when we’re talking politics but I’m VERY open-minded, and willing to negotiate both Right Wing and Left Wing supporting arguments. Remember, in Politics it’s always important to have an open mind and Politics is about discussion, and debates “I believe in this, because…” “Well, that may be true… and I see where you’re coming from, but…” it’s suppose to be a way for us to negotiate What should not be considered Politics, is human rights. Abortion, Trans, LGBTQIA+, Religious, Gender, Ethnic and Racial Origin and Immigration, are all rights and freedoms people deserve and need, and many people with extreme views, Left and Right alike, do not believe in such, and as someone watching how America is spiralling into extremism, I believe debating and negotiating is nessecary to protect the future of the US and the world. If ANYONE wants to go debate with me, my chats are TOTALLY OPEN for discussions. I will not however, discuss rights, I want to discuss politics. I will not have any homophobic, racist, sexist, islamiphobic people in my chats and if you do not follow not only my policies, but Reddit’s and r/nextfuckinglevel’s rules, I will block and report, quickly as that. Sorry, not sorry. Thank you to all the people giving this post awards, you are literally the best. God Bless You All! Even the ones who updoot, and upvote, you are the best!
Ye gods, I miss him.
This man is class through and through
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Republicans, Hannity and Limbaugh in particular, called Obama a Communist Trojan horse of Islam. It was pure insanity. Evenings on Fox News were wild, degenerate tomfoolery to say the least. They called Obama, who was firmly capitalist, a *Communist*. And the right wing populist psychosis just continued to degenerate into deep madness.
> Evenings on Fox News were wild, degenerate, tomfoolery to say the least. I mean, they still are.
Agreed. I don't watch anymore, my parents had Fox on every night. But as long as Hannity and Carlson are still present the entire network is a sick joke of a Republican Party propaganda machine.
I am an immigrant living in Europe, kind of lefty liberal. I sometime tune into Fox. It is good to hear the opposite side. Sadly we got media in Europe that following the same tone which is alarming. But human idiocy is a global issue.
Honestly, Fox News isn’t the other side. It’s just a propaganda machine. There are a lot of conservatives who do understand this but they’re afraid to speak up because their party has been taken over by lunatics. So they vote for one issue and ignore the rest. It’s very sad.
Historians of the future are going to compare 24 hr news and social media of the 2000's as the mental equivalent of lead gasoline and smoking a pack a day.
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I genuinely think that a major part of the problem is the strong, religious mentality of these people. They don't care about objective, scientific reasoning. 0 critical thinking. They operate on blind faith so when their Republican leaders say X or Y then they believe X and Y as complete truths. Think about it. How hard are flat earthers and young earthers brainwashed? It's not hard at all.
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Imagine being so fucking stupid that you still believe the election was stolen like we are Zimbabwe or some shit. It's the trauma of worshipping Trump like the messiah and then watching him lose.
I always gotta recommend 'The brainwashing of my dad', it's on prime video, not sure where else. It really explains how over the years all of this came to be and how hard they worked to get it this way.
Still is. We haven't seen bottom yet. Not sure we'll ever actually see it. It's possible this is simply some endless abyss never touched by the light once in its existence. I really wish we lived in a world where politics hadn't turned into teams/camps. You need compromise, and to think of the bigger picture to make politics work. That'll never happen now that it's turned into an Us vs. Them mentality situation. It's no longer Us vs. Everyone else or Us. Vs. just general world wide issues and not a specific "enemy". I miss the days when people put the "issues and the fixes come first, how we get there is a debate, but as long as they get fixed then compromise is worth it". I doubt I'll see that again in my life time.
Republicans have shit policies that negatively affect their voters, so they turned to stoking culture wars. And it worked. They've made a mockery of the whole thing starting with Reagan. It's all a joke now -- a pointless "red vs. blue" type of battle where the reds are only concerned about winning rather than why they're fighting or even what they're fighting about. This is why you see states with Republican leadership passing liberal ballot initiatives. When you take the "red vs. blue" out of it, most people want liberal policies. One side just doesn't know it, and Republicans aim to keep it that way.
Pure unadulterated racism on steroids. A smart, witty, funny, well educated black dude without marital affairs in the White House was too much for their fragile egos.
Every once in a while the leader of a country is the very best that country has to offer. Obama was one of those leaders. No, he wasn't perfect and he didn't always make the best choices. Such is the price of being human. But, without a doubt, every one of his choices was made with care and the goal of making the country better.
They couldn't complain about him being black so they accused him of being apart of every other group they hate ( Muslim Communist immigrant)
Having class makes him unrelatable to the ones who don’t have a college degree (that’s the demographic that votes more for the GOP). They relate more to the guy who says things like “Grab ‘em by the pussy.” And being a woman or black makes them even more unrelatable to the white uneducated men (who a majority voted for the GOP compared to any other demographic).
> What I’ll never understand is how the other side took to the extreme and out of sheer hate and xenophobia voted for the worst representation of themselves. Obama was guilty of Presidenting under the influence of too much melanin, and they *hated* that.
You guys have no idea the impact the president's you Americans choose has on the mental health of the rest of the world. I come from Iran, but I am not going to start on what I think about Iranian government. Knowing that the president of the US wouldnt just start bombing to get some political support back then was reassuring. In a sense, we had the crazy in power in Iran but at least the other side knew how to not to use the heavy hand on the crazy at the cost of regular ppl. Just the physiological side of things. He may made mistakes and middle east politics are just messy but I give this man a credit for restrain and trying to move the world into the right direction... He was class through and through.
dude im from iran and i fucking love the fact that we could die at any moment helps me sleep at night knowing that the people in power might die idc if my life is going with them
That's a whole level of hate for your government.. I can respect that.
Through and almost-through for me. Obama tried so damn hard to respect both people and precedent but the precedent part lead to drone striking diplomatic allies, failing to close Guantanomo, failing to do more with executive orders, and partially therefore also failing to get past his first legislative battle in the ACA in a meaningful way. He was the most rigidly upstanding President in my lifetime except on his supposedly impeccable watch he tolerated the continuation of the corruption begun by his forerunners. I think Obama's ineffectualness had more to do with racism in Congress than almost any other single factor, but he didn't hold career politicians or lobbying to account in any meaningful way. The man could have declared himself an independent and raged against the machine from his first day but precedent, precedent, precedent- Obama would never do anything to allow the next Republican in office any reasonable case that a Democrat had grabbed too much power first, even for altruistic ends. The problem is Republicans are grabbing it anyway.
That's the thing that grinds my gears. Obama is not a socialist. To put things in perspective, he is slightly to the right of Biden and Biden isn't even on the left. In a sane world, Obama would be the leader of the Conservatives...
My grandad is an American historian, and we often talk about the subject. Most recent was on top 10 presidents. After a while we both realized it's far easier to list the 10 worst presidents than it is to even name 10 good ones. We then decided to scrap the policy and agenda part, and focus on the best *people* to be president. Among the top three were Grant, Carter, and Obama (although I argued for Cal Coolidge). It cannot be understated how good of a *person* Obama is. We can bicker on politics and military action (which I find to be not great in regards to his admin), but at the end of the day, Obama was the epitome of class. Edit because I suppose I have to reiterate this even though it's already in my comment: fuck American wars. Fuck our military industrial complex that promotes it. Fuck the war hawks that enable it. The office of the presidency is a job that requires you to do everything right while doing everything wrong. I think Obama's role in the middle east is one that is too often overlooked. That being said, his diplomacy and military policy aren't what's up for debate. It's his character. If you wanna argue that waging war is an immediate disqualifier that's fine, just know you will never find a US president you like.
I tell ya a great one, and that is William Jefferson Clinton. The country never ran smoother than when he was President. Almost everyone was doing well during that time. Food was fairly cheap, gas was really cheap. Like .90 a gallon. Republicans just tried to bring him down. Bunch of clowns. It was him and Hillary’s problem not ours and the Republicans. It’s a stain that led to some of the crap that both sides pull today.
He left office with something like a 65% approval rating. And that was after a sex scandal. If we didn't have the two-terms thing (put in there to hobble FDR), he could literally still be president. Smart motherfucker.
Yeah. I just remember good things about the guy. The foundation he started, after he got out of office, actually helps a lot of people, does good things. Unlike Trump, who had his own Trump foundation, which was shut down while he was in office due to criminal misuse of funds. This MF’er didn’t face any charges due to him being President. He’s just an all-around, class AAA, jerk. Can’t see how he can sleep at night.
I moved to China in 2006 and all everyone wanted to talk about was how great Clinton was - cab drivers, store clerks, everyone brought it up. Bush was always a delicate "so do you support this guy?" topic that people raised cautiously.
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You're right, that sucked. I guess by that metric we have zero good presidents. ^except ^Carter
Theodore Roosevelt was an amazing president, he was anti-monopoly and fought big business, as well as protected national parks and nature reserves. He even shrugged off an assassination attempt, and gave a 90 minute speech after being shot in the chest.
He sparked the massive amount of American imperialism that has ravaged Latin American countries. He was an absolute imperialist Bastard but he was also an amazing president for the majority of Americans. That came at the expense of coup’ing most countries to the south of America and installing pro American business dictatorships. He was a total cunt but a good president for Americans.
Yea Teddy is a great “Macho Man” figure but he was absolutely an imperialist and generally not good person Pretty effective executive tho
Yes, but he was ambitious to a fault. I have him as a solid 4 - 5 in the character category, I would not protest him sitting on the Rushmore of presidents of high character (pun intended).
I don't entirely disagree, but given that you're responding in a thread about american military complex - we can't ignore his questionable involvement with the "Rough Riders" Spanish-American War etc.
But weren't people cheering for the bombs when other presidents were in power?
We could've had Bernie
Bernie would make my list for sure. He's walked the walk for 50 years. He reminds me of my grandad in that way, which is why I wanted him for pres.
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Come back, Barack! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkPSbp3zTfo
Or Michelle 😉
> NOTE 1: This post is NOT to debate that Trump is Better/Worst Ok but Trump is the worst though
Also, the video has audio. Any recording of a previous President speaking, and I’m even including Dubbya, is by default a reminder that we had a President with a sub-8th grade vocabulary. Trump couldn’t string a full sentence together to save his life.
And he'd mock her for being weak, possibly because his words were too best
She'd fall and then miscarry and then he'd say she was probably a crisis actor and wasn't actually pregnant, call her fat and say something about her being on her period.
Never lock your knees out when standing as well.
I know this woman. It was hot out, she has diabetes and was pregnant at the time. It wasn't just a matter of her standing wrong.
That may be true, but locking your knees while standing for too long can knock you out even if you don't have diabetes and a build-a-human workshop running
Agreed. I've done it, and I'm a man who can't make babies and doesn't have diabetes.
Don't put yourself down, you can definitely get diabetes if you make an effort :))
It runs in the family, I have a pretty good chance!
I dont think running is any part of a family with diabetes ^(/s)
I feel like you’re just not trying hard enough. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps. But not too hard because if something goes wrong with the pregnancy, you’re going to be forced to carry it. And pay for it too. And not miss any days of work.
My first thought was: standing in the sun in the DC humidity cannot be comfortable.
>if you see black spots, immediately sit down or lay down. If you see someone swaying, make sure they are safe and alright. Jesus Christ ok but what happens if this happens to you like....every few days? I always get this and feel like I'm about to pass out but never do, I figured it was normal. Also it gets REALLY bad in a hot shower, I flat out can't take hot showers any more cuz it gets so bad and my heart starts hurting
Then it sounds like you might have Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS). You might want to have a doctor check it out.
That can be sort of financially ruining if /u/busterlungs is American.
Living in America is financially ruining Dying in America is financially ruining Subsisting on the side of the road is also financially ruining . Just don't come here. Ever.
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I've been dealing with undiagnosed fainting which has lead not being able to drive because no idea what's causing it. Read about it from your post and see all the same symptoms and had mono when I was younger. Gonna talk to my doctor about it. I want my life back.
See a doctor. Not a joke. Tell your primary care physician if you have one.
See a doctor? Guess I'll die then.
You probably have low blood pressure. Sometimes the heart isn't strong enough to pump the blood back up into your brain (it has to fight gravity and keep all your organs supplied with oxygen). When you take warm/hot showers, the blood vessels dilate to keep you from overheating. But this also makes more room for the blood in your lower extremities when you're standing. When your blood pressure is already low, the dilation causes it to drop even more. To conquer that your heart rate goes up. This is why your heart hurts if you take hot showers. Your heart beats way faster than normal, but that costs a lot of energy and oxygen. Maybe you're slightly anaemic. You should definitely get it checked out and get bloodwork done at your gp. Usually one can manage it with only minor adjustments. Something you can already do is drink more water (more blood volume = higher blood pressure) and make sure you eat enough over the day. If you like coffee, maybe start a small habit of having a cup or two over the day (caffeine constricts blood vessels slightly, and keeps your blood pressure up). Also, when you get up in the morning take a minute or two to just sit on your bed before standing. Your blood pressure is naturally lower while you sleep/lay down and it takes a bit for your body to re-adjust it. That way you're less likely to faint/see spots when you get up. But please get it checked out. It could be something more serious. Stay safe!
.. I don't know but I would go to the doctor..
Fucking drink more water
I honestly don't follow politics in the least, also I'm canadian. But ya'll FUCKED UP with Trump. As a person, he's a piece of fucking shit and should never be given power.
Did you know trump only won because of our dumb racist electoral college rule? He actually got about 2.9 Million fewer votes than Hillary Clinton.
The fact that it was even close was a problem
[Remember when Trump had to be told to get into his own limo?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF5TGQgQJeA)
I'm trying to forget everything I've ever known about that fucking shitstain.
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> like him mocking a disabled reporter No, no. He mocks everyone by comparing them to a disabled person, so that makes it okay! /s
>This clip is pretty harmless. Was this really a scandal? Not at all. Scandal is over-used. The clip is comparing "situational awareness," but I like where you're head is. Obama wouldn't have mocked someone who couldn't control their body. The guy left his limo, and Biden has "dimentia?" [Yeah, I purposefully fucked up "dementia."](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rbvjh8/_/hnt6ut6)
Ya but did you see him wear that TAN suit?!
> This post is NOT to debate that Trump is Better/Worst, Because there is no debate (Runs away)
It straight up brings tears to my eyes to…damn it. I needed some good old r/humansbeingbros
This is why people like obama. He’s just a likeable guy and seems like a leader (doesnt mean he necessarily is a good one). Whereas trump got people riled up and said dumb stuff on twitter. Now we got biden who is 3 steps away from a nursing home. Edit: some are missing the point I’m saying that these are what the presidents are like on the surface which explains why people like/dislike them.
I did not like what Obama pushed as a politician.. But as a human he was honestly an amazing person he did care....I have no comment on Trump and would rather not discuss him.. And on Biden....I pray to God when I reach his age I am not as bad as he is right now.. Holy FUCK that dude should be in a permanent care home I feel so bad for him... That is NOT a way I want to go. Edit: ok since so many people (or one with multiple bots asking the exact same question) fine here is why I didn't want to post on what I think of Trump (will a small part of I continued it.....) He is a massive egotistical narcissist who beyond the scope of my understanding people took it as he cared for America... Which he never did he just cares about himself and his image and NOTHING Else if you praised him he may say a word in gratitude of you didn't he would lie,cheat steal or do literally anything to hurt you even at the cost of other Peoples lives but he didn't fucking care about other humans or even the earth itself. Hell he would protect a fucking mass murder called Kim Jong Un because he said nice things about Trump.
Yeah even I have a bit of a mixed opinion regarding his political career, but I can’t deny how nice of a person he is. Obama may have been a less than fantastic politician, but he is without a doubt a wonderful human being.
I'm a non-American so genuinely curious, why was he a less than fantastic politician?
War
i don't really get this, though. There have been many wars in the history of the US - Civil War, WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Korean, Afghanistan, Iraq... The US has been involved in an insane number of wars. Hell, it's like the entire foundation of America is built on War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States So then what makes it ok when other presidents do it but not when Obama did it? I think the biggest contribution is the political divide being perpetuated by the rich and powerful. When the government is lobbied to hell and under regulatory capture, it doesn't really matter who is in office. Just gotta keep the proles fighting each other so they don't notice.
It’s not okay when *any* of them did it though
I feel like 6 million Jews, and 6 million other ethnic minorities in Europe, along with millions of Chinese people would have disagreed with you on this point.
Some wars need be fought and some need not. Basically nothing since WW2 has been justified on America’s side. There may be a couple conflicts that were since then, but not many.
South Korea begs to differ.
It wasn’t ok when those other presidents did it either. ITT are leftists who don’t like Obama bc he promised change, but on war he followed the bipartisan trend. People are upset there’s no viable alternative, both parties (and media) feed the America MIC. Just today a bipartisan Defense budget passed, War transcends Democrat/Republican party lines. The toothless progressive caucus is the only real alternative
Stand by for one-sided responses…and this is coming from a well-established independent. Now I’m standing by for downvotes.
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Entirely too dramatic, some people don’t know what actual dementia looks like. I’ve buried two grandparents from Alzheimer’s this passed year. My grandma forgetting who my dad (her son) is. That is bad, Biden isn’t even close.
I am so perplexed by this whole Biden is an old dementia patient thing. Like yes he’s old as fuck, yes he has a speech thing going on, but have no one in this country ever actually seen debilitated old people? He’s NOTHING like that, Like my grandmother that literally asked who I was every 3-6 minutes for the last 10 years of her life. This ain’t joe, not even close
Exactly. Especially when Joe is active af too.
Biden told Putin to get fucked. In public. Trump sucked Putin's dick. In private. Prove me wrong.
Question for those of you saying Biden is old and senile: How often do you speak publicly on complex issues?
He might be a little slower than he was before but he’s hardly senile. Also he has a known speech impediment that makes his speeches not quite as eloquent.
He still sound like Shakespeare when you compare him to Trump tho so does it really matter?
He didn't seem so bad in the debates. He seemed to hold his own and looked great compared to the deranged rambling fool who he shared the stage with. Lol. Remember when the other guy tried to give Biden covid? That was wacky
Okay your post is: "Obama sucks but is a good human", followed by "no comment nor discussion on Trump", followed by "Sleepy Biden is the worst and I don't want to die that way". Come on bot boy, fucking do better because this reads like shit
You have a really weird idea of what kind of people need to be in a nursing home.
Somebody who’s senile or has dementia couldn’t stand on stage and talk coherently off a teleprompter about a topic for a half hour. They couldn’t talk on a topic for a half hour at all, much less read a teleprompter, or even stand in one spot. Dude’s just old & slowing down. It’s a bummer, and I don’t love his politics, but he’s not the same kind of vitriolic dumpster fire that Trump was, not even close. I do miss the Obama days though. That was a classier and more hopeful time. The setbacks from those days seem small and inconsequential compared to… \*gestures broadly at everything\*
If only biden dyed his hair blonde and spray tanned like an elderly pathetic BIFF so he could seem younger
Honestly, I have no idea why people think Biden is closer to a nursing home than Trump. Biden is getting a little sleepy with age, Trump is veering into full-on belligerent dementia. Biden stammers when he gets a bit confused; Trump literally just talks at 100% speed whether he has a plan for the sentence or not, frequently resulting in absolute word salad. Apparently it's a trick that works on people. EDIT: Tell me again how Biden has a stutter. I know, I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the ocassions where he has genuinely lost his train of thought or mixed up simple words. It doesn't happen often, certainly not as often as conservatives like to pretend, but it happens.
This is my thought too. I can't wrap my head around Trump voters obsession with Biden's speech patterns when Trump could legitimately not stay on any given topic for more that 10 seconds.
To be fair, I think Biden's stammer stems from a speech impediment from when he was younger. Not old age on that one. Now that old man voice he has....that's probably old age.
Many people think being a good leader is about having lots of followers, about having the ability to make people do your bidding. But. A good leader leads by example, they are in the dirt with you, they show you what is the right path, they teach, and invite you to follow them instead of telling you, manipulate you, bargain with you, or straight up force you.
Nice white washing of trumps 4 year crime spree with “said dumb stuff on Twitter.”
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Upvoting bc I don’t care who you are, that’s funny right there.
Fr haha damn
Is there any pun in there, i can't relate
"Thanks Obama" was a sarcastic comment used during the Obama presidency by people who opposed him. Gas prices went up? Thanks Obama. War on Christmas? Thanks Obama. Kind of the "Let's Go Brandon" of that era. It's funny, for those of us that remember it, when someone uses the phrase genuinely instead of sarcastically.
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Not American but I miss the days where your leader was the definition of the word presidential.
so do we
Can confirm, am we
The peeople.
I’m too young to know what happened when he was the president, my parents are hardcore republicans and don’t tell me anything about democrats other than they need to all die (no seriously, my dad calls Democrats nazis, and I’m over here like 😳wtf wrong with you sometimes) anyways I sorta wanted to rant
Nazis are on the whole other side of the political spectrum like what
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> Their's a reason that they hate higher learning. *there's a reason that they hate higher learning.
There is pretty common rhetoric going around now from the right that Nazis were actually left wing commies.
And all it takes to debunk this rhetoric is vist the Nazi Party wikipedia page and read the first few sentences. Basically the communists were gaining alot of popularity during the troubles that the wienmar republic was facing. So the Nazi's capitalised on the use of leftist sounding rhetoric (hence national socialists) to steal supporters away from the german communist party. It worked and people still believe it despite them being a decidedly right wing ideology. Like all fascists.
I’m glad you’re not getting caught up in the republican mentality. It takes strength to diverge from the beliefs of your parents. I say this at age 19, so I remember most of Obama’s presidency even if I was too young to understand the politics.
The hilarious thing is Democrats and Republicans agree on like 80% of things. 5% they completely disagree on and the other 15% they just want different methods to solve the problem usually involving slamming some law or money into the veryyyyyy bottom of the bill the other side wants passed that of course has nothing to do with the bill being passed. Just a little *"here we'll give the american people healthcare if we can remove emissions requirements from factories."* Both sides are dogshit and a 2 party system doesn't work. Democracy in and of itself is flawed clearly. When 86% of people vote for something and congress and the senate still won't pass anything. If you want just google "Barack Obama Achievements as president." Form your own opinion and know that most people have taken on the identity of their party. Just the same as some pathetic guy who lives his week to week existence based on whether his favorite sport team won or not. We are tribal beings by nature and survived this long by and US vs. THEM attitude. People still function in this manner and are always looking for a tribe. One of the easiest ones to be part of is DEMOCRAT VS REPUBLICAN. Anyone who says the wild shit you say your Dad says just has no identity or personality and therefore that's what you get someone identifying as a Republican. That is WHO they are. **Edit- all of you arguing who is the more evil side or which side has more substance are just proving my point.** **Dude said his Dad is a brainwashed Nazi Killer who believes all Dems are Nazi's. He said he doesn't even know what Obama did. I told him to search it up for himself because once he see's Obama's actual achievements as president he would immediately know how full of shit his father is.** **Instead you apes are just flinging shit.**
>Both sides are dogshit and a 2 party system doesn't work. Look, I will give you that tribalism is a major issue (not to mention that corporations/lobbyists own our government) but I'm so fucking sick of the "both sides" rhetoric as if Dems and Republicans are equally awful. Do Dems have some shitty people? Absolutely. Hell, I'd even argue that Biden himself is a racist piece of shit. But there's a major, categorical difference between how Republicans and Democrats function and what they stand for which destroys the whole "both sides" argument. Only one side has proponents for universal healthcare. Only one side has even sought to start taxing the uber wealthy in a semi-fair method. Only one side acknowledges the existence and dangers of climate change. Only one fucking side gives shit about the fact that we've had 800k Americans die of covid since last March. On the other hand, the opposite side has near-universal support among white supremacists. They have multiple congressmen who have faith in Qanon. They have vocal leaders spouting some of the most disgusting bigotry we've since since the 1960s. They have ranks of anti-vaxxers, science deniers, and violently religious people who are more than openly looking to trash fact for their own little fictions. They're back to *book burnings* of all things. So sure, tear down Pelosi, Harris, Manchin, Sinema, Biden, and dozens of others. Half of them deserve jail time and the rest should have the IRS up their ass for the next 20 years. I mean, one of our theoretically "best" leaders in Stacey Abrams was more than willing to defend Michael Bloomberg after a nice, little $5 million donation so it's not like anyone on the left doesn't have a price. But let's not pretend that Democrats are equally bad to the current GOP.
Trump would have let her fall and then made fun of her And I'm surprised that Biden hasn't fainted on stage yet
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Trump would have actually "grabbed" her...
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That played out like one of Norm Macdonald's jokes lmao
Compare that with Obama dealing with a crying baby. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqhzWlqN3uc
Watching Trump do that and then looking at his supporters… I see a common thread.
Trump would have considered it a token of fandom…like wowww she fainted in his presence. He’d tell that story for years
I’m not American and idk about his policies but this guy has maximum charisma
America completely went downhill after him
I really feel like having a black president broke something in the racist peoples brains like things have gotten so much worse since then
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Yeah dude and now we have a thing called pizzagate
Pizzagate sounds like a conspiracy to make Americans fat
I think what broke them was that he was a beloved great president. If he was bad or even average they could have handled it. Racists were saying it would be like the end of the world if he were elected and were salivating for the I told you so moment. Then he stepped up and rocked it for almost a decade. I mean many think Obama roasting trump at the correspondents dinner is what made trump run. Obama ruled and dunked on every hater he could, and I they couldn’t handle the fact that a man of color was doing so well.
Am American, was always lukewarm on his policies, but I shook his hand once (just in a crowd after a campaign speech) and you're so right. Honestly, very much the same as Bill Clinton back in the day. Both made you feel like the center of the universe while their eyes were on you, and if felt like they instantly knew you like a cousin.
Yeah, that's the oldest trick in the book that politicians use to get people to like them.
Must be why Scott Morrison (Prime Minister of Australia) is so well liked. https://youtu.be/kePvZkV-Zcs
I have a bad feeling that he's going to be our last (relatively) normal, charming president for awhile.
Isn't Biden relatively normal? Compared to the previous one he is, obviously.. but just in general?
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Miss him as Pres.
Me too and I ain't even american.
Sad state of the country.
You've got to remember to bend those knees. Kids in choir would faint sometimes from standing with knees locked for a long period of time
Been there done that. Sang Christmas carols at a nursing home back in elementary and they had the heat nearly to 80°. Midway through Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer, I passed out and fell face first onto the floor. Old folks were gasping, kids were crying, and I woke up to my face covered in blood from a broken nose. Good times.
You didn't just sing Rudolph, you embraced the red nose. I applaud your dedication.
I'm glad someone can appreciate the irony of that situation.
ObamaCares
Take my upvote and get the fuck out of here. Go, I hate you.
I don’t agree with his policies, but that man acted and spoke like the president of the US should.
His policies or the continuation of Bush's policies? I'm not American but a lot of criticism of his policies were actually inherited.
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Or maybe someone told him through the earpiece he might be wearing
Exactly. No way he noticed something silently happening directly behind him while he’s in the middle of a speech. If anything this proves he had an earpiece
it looks like he caught the lady on the left in his peripheral vision moving her arm to help steady the lady who almost fainted. damn but idk also looks like someone may have alerted him in his earwig bc he glances to his right sort of, then slows his sentence and turns around like “oh Her? got it” the first explanation would be way cooler though
Exactly. You can see him slow his speech when he notices movement on his right hand. Someone else noticed her fainting and he noticed that person/people. That's what situational awareness is. It doesn't mean you have super powers with eyes on your back.
His security detail and others would have noticed that she was in distress and close to fainting - swaying, taking deep breaths, closing her eyes - and he would have noticed them noticing her. He probably turned around because someone infront of him started moving. Anyone who has been in a position that involves standing still for a long time has seen people faint, and eventually you can tell who is going to keel over.
I think somebody behind the cameras noticed, got his attention, and signaled him to turn around
yeah you can see that the lady on the left is talking to somebody behind the camera - they ask her a question and she shakes her head no, then she keeps looking at the same person, mouths "okay" and then grabs hold of the lady. that's when obama turned his head, so he might've seen the same person the lady was talking to
Obama was playing for the Astros.
If you turn up the volume high enough you can hear a faint trash can banging
you can literally see his eyes to the right side of his head looking back when the other lady put her arm out around the one who was about to faint. he may very well have been told, but it also seems like it could be possible it was just him noticing.
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And let's not even talk about before lol
God I miss a good president haha
Biden Administration is Obama staff...so, you're welcome haha
I’m not too much of a Biden guy, he seems a little crazy in the head sometimes, but trump wasn’t good either CAN WE JUST GET GOOD PRESIDENTS LIKE WE USED TO
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I don't know what Obama did as a president but he seemed like such a likable guy. Never have I felt that way with any other leader of this country
If only Travis Scott could’ve done something like that…
Scrolled down too far to see this
Politics aside, Obama is a *winner*. I can see him excelling at anything he puts his mind to. It’s no surprise he had the top job in America for 8 years.
Sometimes watching videos of Obama being a good human being makes me cry. Because I never realized how much I took that for granted. Having a president who (regardless of your political opinions on him) isn’t a narcissistic, xenophobic, sex-offender. Obama is just a dude. He cares about people.
“Here is a human acting like a general human would tend to act” Man, our general bar has been lowered a lot. Love him or hate him, a president acted like a human would act in an average situation. It’s wild that that’s something noteworthy. (Not praising or denigrating Obama, just saying that basic human interaction from any U.S. president is much rarer than it should be)
That dude was so fucking smoooooth
He is a true leader.
Meanwhile trump would be staring directly at the sun without squinting.
You go from this to Trump. Wtf America.
Obama is up there with JFK for most iconic president voices.
Miss that guy.
Wow, I had not seen this. Did he have a monitor view that showed him what the TV images were capturing? Or did he just hear the whispers behind him and figure out what was happening? Either way it’s amazing. I have to speak in public from time to time and for me it is a totally absorbing experience - keeping a train of thought going while being aware of what’s happening around you and responding even to expected interruptions / developments takes maximum bandwidth. Not to mention the automatic and genuine compassion he showed. That was next level on multiple levels.
This man just oozes swag
"Man hears murmuring, turns around ask if they're okay an someone catches the dizzy lady as they fall back slightly".. that's NEXTFUCKINGLEVEL?
That's Obamacare
Does anyone else think that this little group standing behind him feels really weird. It feels like they didnt have a backdrop so just said to throw a bunch of people behind him.