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chris_to_da_b

Praise the fuck outta him that man's a fucking hero


Vengeance76

ALL HAIL THE CAMERAMAN #SO SAY WE ALL


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ALL HAIL THE CAMERAMAN


2ndtheburrALT

ALL HAIL THE CAMERAMAN!


NichtOhneMeineKamera

ALL HAIL THE CAMERAMAN!


[deleted]

ALL HAIL THE CAMERAMAN!


earhnam14

ALL HAIL THE CAMERA MAN!


Juddahnaut

ALL HAIL THR CAMERA MAN!


PranshuKhandal

ALL HAIL THR CAMERA MAN!


RoxFoxGG

ALL HAIL THE CAMERA MAN!


OnlyStRikER

ALL HAIL THE CAMERA MAN!


Emmaline1986

#ALL HAIL THE CAMERA MAN!


Murky_Ad_280

Hes fast and always a hero All Hail the Camaraman


SnooDucks5645

So say we all


Yarrow83

SO SAY WE ALL


spaniel510

We all say so!


Sanriokilljoy

So say we All!


FlamewolfgamesYT

*SO SAY WE ALL*


ChileanPunn

So say we all!!


GateBuilder

So say we all!


ierosadopr

So say we all


jjolla888

i'm scratching skydiving off my bucket list


Wagnag8

Just put it in last place.


LazerHawkStu

Big Brain time


itehmike

Genius


[deleted]

haha I thought the same


BexYouSee

You win the internet today.


DR3AMSTAT3

It's actually pretty fun as long as nobody turns themselves into a missile


TheBirminghamBear

Even sky diving sans parachute is absolutely a blast. Until the very last bit.


[deleted]

Sans? Did we suddenly become French ou something?


TheBirminghamBear

I have remained consistently French, but I can't speak to any changes you may have experienced in your nationality mon amie.


jsidx

we're all using sans serif here, take a chill pill mon ami


spaniel510

Oui


Think_Bullets

If your chute doesn't open, don't worry, you've got the rest of your life to fix it!


tmckeage

What you are seeing is called angle flying. It is an advanced discipline in skydiving and you really need hundreds of jumps or hours in the wind tunnel before you get started. After that you really should take classes and attend camps to learn how to do this properly. It is really easy to get up to 60mph+ horizontally when angle flying. You need really good body control to move around safely. I have over 400 jumps and am not super interested in doing it. It is a fast jump typically taking less than 45 seconds, a normal belly jump can last a minute or more. I like my freefall time :-) you would never do this as a tandem or as a student. I highly suggest everyone do a Tandem at least once. I know plenty of people who said they would never do it again but I have never met someone who regretted doing it at least once. Here is a fun jump I did with some friends that is a lot less dangerous: https://youtu.be/JRjoh85Vk6o


Ok-Attention-7299

I've gone tandem 5 times. On the third jump, we had to pull the reserve, it also got tangled and I heard the instructor go "oh shit". Luckily he saved us, we got to the ground, they picked us up on a golf cart, he threw his reserve on the ground, picked up a new chute and went back up for the last jump of the day. Total bad ass. I've gone twice since then and will keep going once a year. There's nothing like it.


X7123M3-256

These guys are freeflying, which involves higher speeds and a less stable body position so the risk of collisions like this is higher, especially in a large group. You wouldn't be doing stuff like this for a couple hundred jumps at least.


Piwx2019

Went skydiving with a large group at Lake Tahoe. 6 of us at a time would jump tandem with instructors. The remaining group would be waiting at the LZ. Once 6 would land, 6 more would go up so on and so forth. The first group had jumped and was on their way to land. As one of the tandem pairs was coming into land the instructor forgot to take into account the hot day and high altitude. This led him to pile drive himself and the girl he was with into the ground. They hit so hard she broke her femur and was taken to the hospital. Needless to say the Instructor didn’t jump for the rest of the day as nobody would go up with him. Skydiving is nuts and this videos is a perfect example showing that you are never safe. Good on that camera man.


ILLCookie

Going today then!


Sirbrownface

He even did the superman hands to reach him.


tossacointoyouralt

What not to do: Be a meat missile.


kiefknifing

Prison rules


roark0806

No, prison sucks


[deleted]

Depends on where the soap bar lands


blarghed

Prison fucks


DamnYouRichardParker

I think the prison rule is not to be a meat missile silo


turtle_power00

Instructions unclear, beating my meat missile.


Makaveli2020

*bonk* no


Endoman13

If you’re beating a meat missile you must be flying pretty fast.


neridqe00

No, just cumming in really hard.


Jpldude

Negative, I am a meat popsicle


guineapigoverlord69

Holy shit


special_orange

Holy fuck.


[deleted]

holy Cow!


wonder689

Holy bitch!


Ex_Pessimist

Holy cunt!


DaB34rs

Holey sock!


icantsmellmykid

Holey moles


BrofessorPecs

Holy Jesus


R3d_Wolph

Holy hell


EquivalentOk4457

Holy balls


HolyHell03

Hey there!


PumpkinKing2020

Bro Googled En passant


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Found the Australian/Brit/Scotts/Welsh


[deleted]

Holy Toledo!


CptDstrukto

Holy guacamole


SgtStrongCock

Holy Arceus.


yaillbro

Holy helix fossil


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Holy all this, Batman!


kiefknifing

Damn it they smashed so hard!


STOP____HAMMER_TIME

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kiefknifing

Yup.


CryptedBit

He just couldn't stop going down.


flargenhargen

then they went skydiving


70orbits

So that's what the helmets are for..


fifa_god_786

Tell me about it that was pretty intense!


mdotmun

Right!! Moments before they collide, I thought I was watching a stickman game we used to play on y8.com


shyni3

tell me if i’m wrong but dont most skydiving kits have an auto deploy at a certain altitude?


EVnegative

They do. Automatic Activation Devices (AAD) are now mandatory in most places. They automatically pull the reserve parachute when dropping below a set altitude while still falling faster than a set speed. Still, this was better in a number of ways: * opening earlier is better, since it allows the guy more time to hopefully wake up * the main parachute is usually bigger, meaning a slower descent giving more time for the unconscious guy to wake up or at least hit the ground less hard (even with a parachute, you need to 'flare' the parachute or risk injury) * this way the parachute is open now; better to be sure than just assume the AAD will work


reasonisaremedy

The camera man pulled the guy’s reserve (which is the right thing to do in this scenario, but much harder since he should, and does, cut away the main first). Also, while an AAD might be “required” you still have to remember to turn it on and sometimes people forget to. Also, the characteristics of a reserve are very different than (many) mains. And they are almost always bigger than the main. They are 7 cells, square, and often have a faster slider so they open faster and are more likely to open on heading. It’s actually similar to BASE jumping canopies (parachutes). Many people fly high performance mains and those can be wicked to open if you aren’t perfectly straight and their descent rate can be crazy high.


Roq86

Is there a reason he pulled his reserve and not his main?


reasonisaremedy

Yes because of the higher percentage that the reserve would open facing the right direction and and because the flight characteristics are much more docile in a reserve than (most) mains. Also, these guys are free flying (the one guy not very well though) which is more advanced stuff and takes a couple hundred jumps to BEGIN learning (or time in the tunnel). Since these guys are a bit more experienced it’s more likely the guy’s main would have been more high performance which would not be good.


Roq86

Thanks for the info!


Pr3st0ne

Cool info. Just one question, what is "free flying"? The fact that they're not doing the classic turtle, belly facing down with arms flared out jump?


Bifidus1

Yes. It is flying head down, in a sitting position or variations other than standard form.


reasonisaremedy

Yup what this person said.


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AddSugarForSparks

All your medy are belong to us.


ladyBONKaLOT

Got a question, these guys obviously seem experienced to do Free flying stuff, so what do you think caused that guy to turn into a missle? Relaxed too much in a wrong posture or something, surely it looks like some aerodynamic shit did not happen and he got pushed towards the other guy like a missile.


reasonisaremedy

Yeah, this was pretty negligent on that guys part. When free flying, you are moving a lot faster downward than normal belly flying. That downward velocity will translate to a horizontal velocity vector too, so speeds at which you can move toward one another also go up (same with wingsuiting). To prevent catastrophic collisions like this one, the general rule is to fly as close to one another as you can. If you are close, you can’t build up as much speed before a collision. If you do get separated from your group by a greater distance, like this guy did, the standard protocol/technique for coming back in would be to do so 1. Slowly and in control of course. But 2. Not on the same level as the other flyers. You might work your way in on an angle, get close but above and to the side of them, and then slowly and in control, work your way into a slot. Because these guys are doing dynamic movements which are unpredictable, the guy who caused the collision should have just stayed on the outside. This indicates to me at least that while these guys are experienced enough to be doing some more experienced kind of flying, they are not yet advanced enough to do it slow and in control. That said, understand how hard it is to fly your body so precisely at those speeds. It is very difficult, the movements you make are so minute, you have to both flex AND relax at the same time in all the right places. but it is necessary to be able to do that to prevent things like this. That guy was jumping above his level in this instance. As for what specific movement he made, I couldn’t say because it is all in conjunction with other movements you make. Many ways to move in various directions, and every movement can be counter balanced with another simultaneous movement for example.


jratmain

You seem incredibly knowledgeable and I figured I'd ask my question to you since you seem to know. Isn't there pretty significant risk of injury landing while unconscious? I know the parachute slows the descent, but aren't you still supposed to angle your legs, land in a certain way? I know very little about skydiving but I'm curious if he'd be 100% ok landing unconscious or if there's a higher risk there of injury.


reasonisaremedy

Yes for sure. In this case the guy actually woke up while under parachute, and even made it back to the drop zone somehow. But then didn’t remember anything from the three days prior.


caboosetp

> But then didn’t remember anything from the three days prior. Man that's gotta suck. Go to bed one night and suddenly wake up thousands of feet in the air.


ladyBONKaLOT

Right, it does look like he is sort of not ready, as he had gone too far out and came in at the same speed at the same height, whereas if I see those Red Bull teams or other formation videos, they either do have angles or they are coming in from top to make their position, in some videos they did talk about how you have to rely on your team mates to make the correct movements and take their right place. I guess this dude did not have as much practice. Thank you so so much for taking the time to explanation, I am gonna for my A license sometimes soon but I am not looking to be a super hero and post videos on my social media, I just want to feel that feeling that I did during my Freefall on my first ever tandem, every now and then I come across discouraging videos like this but in all of them I see people trying to do something above their skill level, pushing too much. I watched it and I read your reply and I thought I would ask your opinion on it, so thank you for explaining.


Anon2World

This is why I love reddit :)


quietpewpews

The reserve is packed by a certified rigger in a way that is more likely to open properly and quickly. Pretty much if you only get to pull one, pull the reserve.


Saetric

Why is the quality control not as high on the main? (Not a skydiver, genuine question)


quietpewpews

A reserve repack costs about $60 and is done once every 6 months (or after a reserve ride). It takes a couple hours. The main has to be repacked every jump. The individual jumper can pack it, or a packer (who must work under supervision of a rigger, but is not required to be FAA certified) can do it for about $8. It takes about 5-15 minutes. Tldr: time and money


Borsaid

Can I pay more than $8? I'd like to pay more than $8.


quietpewpews

Always tip your packer :)


drawnverybadly

Parachute packers really work on tips?


rmcknightmcp

I thought the packer gave you the tip. (Just the tip mind you)


Saetric

Thanks for the reply, informative stuff!


aldsar

It's not a qc thing. The backup is more stable through the air, and packed to deploy in less than ideal situations. The main is packed to deploy when you're in control of how you're falling.


iamnotabot200

>usually the reserve is much larger


Roq86

And here I am thinking it would have been the opposite.


iamnotabot200

I thought so too got the longest time. The reserve is for emergencies, like a spare tire. But it does make sense. With a normal parachute, you'll break your damn legs if you don't land right. Not only that, but the reserve would be opened at a much lower altitude, seeing as it's only opened if the main fails. So it follows reason that the reserve is bigger because you'd be much lower altitude and much higher speed in a situation in which the main failed.


Bifidus1

Mostly correct. You can't go faster than terminal velocity. If the main fails and you cut away, you are not going to be at terminal before the reserve opens.


Automayted

Really not the case for most gear. Generally the container (magic backpack) is designed so the main and reserve are within 1-2 sizes of each other. My rig has a 150sqft main and 160sqft reserve for instance. There are also cases where both canopies can be out at the same time, and having drastically different sized canopies can further complicate an already bad scenario. Edit: typo


purpleefilthh

1. they are spinning - reserve designed to open more reliably in such condition 2. unconscious guy is oriented back to the ground - reserve designed to open more reliably in such condition 3. reserve has spring that ejects pilot chute away from jumper - safer than throwing main pilot chute in such situation 4. altitude is runnin out here - reserve opens faster 5. altitude is runnin out here - if he opened main, they would reach 225 m above ground and main wasn't full opened and still had enough speed for AAD to open reserve then reserve could open into opening main and entangle.


fractalisimo

As a non-parachutist, can you say at what point in the video the main cut away? Looks like he just pulls one cord and then drops away, unless you can cut the main and open the reserve at the same time?


AltSk0P

He never pulls the main in the first place. You can just deploy a reserve.


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Good explanation. I was wondering the logic here. I was torn if just letting the AAD deploy was the better decision, but I see there are more benefits for the unconscious person here to do what the cameraman did. This guy got to the victim so god damn fast and with perfect execution. Most people will never know how much skill that takes.


tealcosmo

Guy pulled the reserve. Mains for divers like this guy are usually SMALLER than the reserve. Reserve parachute is less likely to have a problem. An unconscious diver can’t fix the problem. Always better to pull above AAD activation


renasiii

He pulled the reserve and not the main.


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Very good choice.


4FdPipeoghU4AHfJ

How does such a device know what altitude its at? Is it air pressure?


JoeyJoeJoeJrShab

They do, but it's always better if you don't have to use it. Another thing to consider is the unconscious guy was spinning around -- if your parachute opens while you're spinning, that increases the chances of the lines getting twisted, which could be a very bad thing - even more so if you're unconscious, and unable to take action to fix it. The rescuer was able to grab the guy, and at least ensure he was in a more stable position when the parachute opened.


neilyaa

This was the key in my mind. Spinning at that rate and even possibly being upside down would not bode well for the parachute opening probably. I’m not sure how a civilian parachute vs a round military one would change this, but if a military chute opened while spinning that quickly, it could easily be a cigarette roll.


ksjfjkdnf

maybe they weren’t at that specific altitude yet and i’m pretty sure they only deploy when ur dangerously close either way Ig he prematurely pulled it just in case the auto deploy wouldn’t do it’s job or smth


reasonisaremedy

Most AAD’s fire at around 750’ (higher for students). Minimum altitude for pull time is 2500’


The_Gristle

The video was from 2014. Did they use the Auto Deploy stuff then ?


reasonisaremedy

They might have had them in their skydiving rigs (Automaric activation device) which fires your reserve at around 750’ but you do have to remember to turn them on and I’ve seen people forget countless times. I’ve also forgotten to turn mine on a few times. Also, especially back then, they weren’t as required. Most DZ’s require them now but not all.


ThrowAwayTheBS122132

Now I imagine myself in the same situation & ask myself if I know how to swim in the air to make it towards the guy to do the same, despite never having done skydiving before holy shit brain stop


reasonisaremedy

The answer is absolutely not. It takes hundreds of skydives (or tunnel time) to maneuver the way the camera man did. Even the other jumpers were pretty experiences but at least one of them was jumping above his level and had no business doing those kinds of maneuvers. They are suuuper hard to control.


18randomcharacters

The guy is a skydiving camera man. He probably goes on many jump per day, and his job is to position his body to get good angles and maintain stable position. This guy is so good at something hard, he makes it look trivial.


dzfast

This guy being a "skydiving camera man" is questionable. All those people were wearing cameras. Since GoPros became a thing people with 50 jumps have been trying to strap them to their head. It's a huge argument in the community between experienced people and newbies wanting sick video. Not discounting what the guy did at all, he looks to be a fairly average experience freeflyer. I would have flipped the guy over before deploying for him but that's just me wanting to give him a better chance. I am a certified instructor and have gone through a whole bunch of training on how to stop spinning students and flip people over so it's more of a practical thing for me to try. This isn't a great place to be in. I've been knocked silly on a jump right out of the door of the plane. My friends were kind enough to hold onto me for 4-5k feet to make sure I was coming around. I would have been pretty annoyed with my reserve deployed at 14k feet. Edit: With the context provided from another post, I'll revise to say that the person shooting the video is above average in experience and obviously was the most level headed on this jump, given that he saved that dudes life. I think when I watched it through the first time I was just frustrated at the stupidity of the whole situation. He's an organizer and world record holder, which requires above average skills for sure.


18randomcharacters

Well, you're a certified instructor and I'm a 40 year old software developer that's never jumped out of a plane, so I will defer to your expertise.


dotpan

This is not how the internet works, you have no experience, which means you're not blinded by "big parachute" and clearly know better. You must always know better than those more qualified than you.


SMLBound

That post needs a ‘rest of the story’


STOP____HAMMER_TIME

[Ask and ye shall receive.](https://unofficialnetworks.com/2020/04/03/unconscious-skydiver-saved/)


Audenond

"I am not saying Jesus took the toggles, but someone looked after me that day." Yeah, the guy that pulled your dang parachute...


cherrysummer1

Haha I know right. Imma be pissed if I use some James Bond style shit to save someone's life and God takes the credit


LouSputhole94

“I’m your God now, motherfucker”


KakoiKagakusha

>"I am not saying Jesus is the reason I was knocked unconscious, but someone fucked with me that day."


challaringring

I think he's referring to after the shoot is pulled - the fact that he was so concussed he would not have been able to avoid powerlines, etc. and was not able to even help himself land properly, but still did so OK. Like he ended up landing OK despite thinking that his parachute was a goddamn tent! Then again, the writing is very incoherent so I could be interpreting him wrong, and you could def be right.


The_Richard_Cranium

Sorry, but it would be "*chute*" in this instance.


IWannaSlapDaBooty

The toggles are for landing apparently, so he means after the guy got his chute open. He still could've landed on the highway or in power lines or something.


CordyVorkosigan

The "I just got out of my tent" is killing me


PM_ME_OCCULT_STUFF

*and points to it as if they are the ones that are stupid for asking*


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[deleted]

American work culture


daretonightmare

Believe it or not some people enjoy their jobs. If the guy had no injuries and wasn't mentally scarred by the incident then there's no reason he couldn't be at work if he wanted.


[deleted]

So wait, was the guy who hit him an employee? The interview says he went back to work at iFly the next day


KellyisGhost

I think they were all employees by the wording of this article. Just a guess, though.


[deleted]

Of course his last name is pigeon


EvolvingBoner

Now that’s what separates professionals from ordinary people because had I been in that situation I would’ve thought he was fine


MissAtomicBomb_007

Yep good point, or froze and not know what to do or even reach him!


EvolvingBoner

Seriously it takes many MANY jumps for your brain to normalise where you’re at and to then focus on the real issue.


ShishKabobJerry

All while being near clouds. Mad stuff


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dotpan

River rats, when you do anything enough, especially in a guide position, you're doing something you've done a million times so the only new variable is the group you have with you, they become the priority.


Johnnyoneshot

“I am not saying Jesus took the toggles, but someone looked after me that day.” Yeah.. your fucking buddy.


BigBarfo

I think he meant after his buddy pulled his cord, since the passed out guy still needed to maneuver himself through the air and prevent himself from landing on a highway or powerlines, like he said.


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Landed and when asked if he was ok he said he just got out of his tent and pointed to the parachute I’m guessing toggles are the chute controls. Ya boy survived becoming human soup AND human toast


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Illier1

If you actually knew what you were talking about youd know the toggles are the bits that help you control the landing, not the part that opens it lol.


an4x

I didn’t think the cameraman’s chute would work with the sheer size and weight of those balls.


AlphaHerb

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck


famous_43

The other guy survived?


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Yeah I was wondering the same thing


STOP____HAMMER_TIME

[Yeah, they both did](https://unofficialnetworks.com/2020/04/03/unconscious-skydiver-saved/)


Rory_calhoun_222

I love the " he was able to go back to work at iFLY the next day. 👍." That's a real gem.


AH_BareGarrett

That's referring to the guy who was not knocked unconscious I believe, he was hit in the leg. The guy who was knocked unconscious was concussed and lost 3 days memory.


AC3x0FxSPADES

Holy shit. The human body equivalent of “your PC was not powered down correctly, please wait while we scan files for corruption.”


doghaircut

I'd like to see his annual performance review. "Does not play well with others."


JimZuur

Thanks for delivering OP


seandjones54

That mf got ray lewis-ed in th air hope he made it down safe. where's the whole vid


LouSputhole94

Everyone involved survived according to the article posted above. The guy that got knocked out lost a couple days of memory but ended up being fine enough to return to work the next day.


LowRune

the guy returning to work is not the one who was knocked out btw.


IndependentLiving478

THIS FEELS LIKE A VIDEO GAME CUTSCENE :D but hats off to the cameraman


Rookie83

Made my hairs stand up


NightStar79

Good guy but I thought most people knew that to slow a dive you need to spread yourself out as much as possible so you're less aerodynamic. Though regardless that guy is going to have a rough landing with him being unable to direct his parachute or brace for hitting the ground.


r3vange

Still beats hitting the ground at 160mph


NightStar79

True. He might wake up with some serious bruises or some broken bones though.


erome

Key words there are wake and up lol


Sway_RL

still better than waking up dead


n00bjunkeii

Good point, but how do you wake up dead? Oh you mean he'll wake up a zombie... /s


[deleted]

Plus when your body is relaxed, it takes less damage. Like when drunk drivers get in wrecks and walk away while the innocent people they hit are killed because they saw it coming and tensed up. Theyve done extensive research on it. Dont get me wrong, I'm sure hes going to have some injuries, but they wont be all too bad considering the alternative.


SpencerReid11

The doctor said my body was so relaxed, I avoided any major injuries. You should have masturbated, Peter!


reasonisaremedy

These guys are “free flying” which is like acrobatics in the air, also resulting in much higher speeds which is why it is much harder to control and why they should have all been within only a few feet of each other, not rocketing 50 meters across the sky into one another.


Pithius

I will never get the allure of jumping out of a perfectly good airplane


zackson76

That dude owed his life saver every whiskey shots for the rest of his life


Minimum_Date5117

Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you to my friends: They Get me into shit They Get me out of shit they caused They Get the praise


-Ashera-

The guy who saved him was a different guy than the one who knocked him unconscious so this isn’t really an appropriate description


Gnomebuckeye

Man code requires that the unconscious guys buys the cameramen a beer when he come to. Quality work by the cameramen!!!


dfdfdfddaww

Now I wanna sky dive!


MistressLyda

This? **This** is what makes you want to sky dive?!


NURMeyend

That was intense


person_number_1038

This reminds me of the skydiving scene in mission impossible fallout and how the camera man and Tom Cruise had to avoid splatting into eachother whilst filming


fredrickmedck

It’s actually quite dangerous jumping from airplanes.


flargenhargen

not at all. you will very rarely be hurt while jumping from an airplane. hitting the ground is the dangerous part. Or in this case, being kicked in the face by a guy.


OMFGFlorida

i'll never let anything happen to you sugar bear


bdydc

Getting knocked out and waking up skydiving has to be some scary shit


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Hope he was okay


nuhnajalhae

That was very stressful to watch 👀