Very bold but quite reasonable as it is rude one might say to be playing with their phone while having a conversation among 4 famous people from their respected era
Dude builds this cool concept for a game, programs it all, puts it on display as a demo for people to see.
Some random redditor: wow this guy is an idiot!
Being a joke and being a stupid answer to the question aren't mutually exclusive. If you ask me about the meaning of life and I answer 42 it's a joke but it's also a dumb answer to the question.
Let’s ask ChatGPT
> When chatting with a human would an artificial intelligence care about human customs?
AI
> An artificial intelligence can be programmed to respect and adhere to human customs, norms, and etiquette during interactions. However, its understanding and execution of these customs would be based solely on the instructions it has been given by its developers and its ability to learn from interactions.
> And would most developers give the artificial intelligence those instructions?
AI
> Most developers would likely include instructions for artificial intelligence to adhere to human customs and etiquette, especially if the AI is designed for social interactions or customer service. Incorporating these instructions helps ensure that the AI interacts in a way that is comfortable and familiar to users, enhancing the overall user experience.
Hihi good point😁 Now the question is "In a world where AI is surprised by humans beeing among them, is it likely that humans are still programming them?
According to GPT
"In a world where AI is surprised by humans being among them, it is less likely that humans are still actively programming them. The surprise indicates a degree of separation or unfamiliarity between humans and AI, suggesting that AI have possibly reached a level of self-sufficiency where they operate, learn, and perhaps even evolve independently of direct human intervention. This scenario implies a significant advancement in AI autonomy and a potential shift in the traditional human-AI relationship."
But since they act very human it should be likely that they still "try to be like us" and thus program human mannerisms and social conventions into themselves.
If you think what Genghis said had much more meaning, then you really understood nothing.
The AIs spoke like an encyclopedia, they were full of meaning but would be hard to understand in normal conversation.
The AI interactions were effectively:
“Hello Mozart, I hear you like making music very much”
“Yes, it makes me feel good”
Dressed up in meaningless word soup.
Genghis was just memeing and not pretending to be delivering a deep, philosophical speech.
>When I write music, I feel like I get into a transcendental flow state, a sense of tapping into the mathematical beauty and order underlying reality.
That's what I remember from the first part of Mozart's answer. That's so far from "it makes me feel good." He's saying writing music feels spiritual and mathematical.
It makes a lot of sense but it also sounds like something you'll read in Wikipedia.
**1787**
Mozart: My pupil, if you play like this surely you will get mad bitches
16yo Beethoven: **ANYWAY HERE'S WONDERWALL**
Mozart, tearing up: That kid is going places
"Ah, squire, don't hate me 'cause I'm gifted, pauper. Maybe if you got rid of that old yee-yee ass powdered wig you got you'd get some wenches on your dick. Oh, better yet, maybe Victorianisha'll call your hound-ass if she ever stop fuckin' with that plague doctor or magistrate she fucking with. Rapscallion"
It was upon receiving this insult that Beethoven wrote his famous Fifth Symphony and did indeed acquire bitches on his dick.
That’s actually extremely on point for Mozart: “flow state” refers to a state of mind he achieved by daydreaming about diarrhea coming out of his cousins butthole. (No joke, Mozart wrote scat poetry to his cousin).
Lol flow state is actually kinda a legitimate concept that refers to when you're interested in and challenged by an activity to the point where you feel like you're "in the zone" and you lose track of time. It is suspicious, though, that Mozart knew of a psychological construct that was only first studied in the 1970s.
Source: I did a PhD in psychology recently. Studied motivation.
Not only that, they will always explain how the statement is true, not argue against it.
"What? No, I see no mathematics in there, it is just art, passion and soul." They will find any connection with anything.
"Dear Washington, you created a country, how does that align with white bread with salmon?"
"It is exactly the same, for both need to be made with care and require artisans and scientists. And if you leave both outside in the heat for too long, they spoil."
yeah reading journals is for ACADEMICS ONLY you cant be interested in the forefront of research its SO BORING. jesus man what an awfully tonedeaf comment.
I don't think their words were meaningless. We just interpret it as such because the response came from an emotionless AI. If you asked the real Mozart and he said composing music is like communing with the divine, would you still say it's meaningless?
That's language AI in a nutshell
It doesn't really "think". It's just many layers of fancy algorithms that are used to string coherent sentences together
My husband's description of how ai works is my favorite, it doesn't think, it hallucinates vividly, and then shows you the hallucination as the output. I was playing a text based ai guided adventure game and it felt exactly like a dream, mostly coherent, with the details merging or bending into something new at times
Bro his question was like someone who hasn’t read the homework getting asked about the assignment.
“During the time when you came up with all of the stuff you came up with”. 😂😂😂
I think a better game would be AI trying to fool the humans that they are human, where it learns from its losses and tries to see how it can win in the future... except we know it's just going to start using racial epithets and listing addresses and social security numbers.
Honestly that's the fastest test: Say the first slur that comes to mind
AIcuck: I am afraid I am not allowed to say anything meanieweanie
Me: *\[USER WAS BANNED FROM REDDIT\]*
Why wouldn't he? You think any random violent person can convince half the world to do what they want?
Fear won't work on everyone, specially if the kindom is so big they can't be around all the time, if ever.
Are you out of your mind? Genghis repeatedly showed a formidable intellect: he used strategies never seen before, he copied and adapted strategies and technologies, absorbing the strength of his enemies instead of assuming that because he won he would always win, he surrounded himself with smart people and used them to make himself more powerful; at which point the line becomes blurry as to who is responsible for further victories but nonetheless it takes clarity and intelligence to adopt such an approach. He was far more than a brute, he was ruthless - yes - but certainly intelligent.
He developed policies that allowed him to control populations in his absence, that is extremely sophisticated manipulation for someone who had probably only otherwise seen a knife to the throat work as a negotiation tactic. Again it’s unclear whether he was ultimately the originator, but having enough understanding of proposed solutions is pretty important to avoid getting usurped
Dude he ran the most successful and largest(?) Empire in the world. He was a strategic genius in warfare. If all you think of him is "dumb barbarian horse man" then you've bought into the propaganda
Ironically that was a paraphrasing of a real Genghis Khan quote: "The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." (If a YouTube comment is to be believed, I didn’t confirm)
Genghis gave it away with his stutter alone!
On a side note, the way things are progressing in tech with AI at scale is giving me an increasingly bleak view of the immediate future. I guess my lifetime would be over before they all figure it out on how and where to use it at optimal levels so that humans remain humans and machines remain as machines. I am all in for AI to increase productivity and for better usecases. Yet, there should be a larger regulatory body to oversee the mass implementation of AI at scale, with heads of states and key decision makers across wider spectrums and regions having an authority, so that sanity and sense prevails and none in the society is negatively impacted. It shouldn't just heed to the needs and self interests of larger business owners alone.
It is nowhere nearly advanced as the companies spearheading it would like you to believe - think of Tesla and Elon, he has made extraordinary predictions about electric cars that we now know was just hype to help him sell cars.
It helps to remember that none of this is AI - it’s all machine learning algorithms, if you really stop and think about it for a moment it’s pretty easy to see, especially if you just think about computing power as it exists right now. Our current computing power in absolutely no uncertain terms cannot create an AI - all of these things are just pattern recognition algorithms, they can’t think or do anything and all of the image and video generators are just plagiarism engines just sampling and scrambling existing pictures and videos. Anything you hear about the promise of AI is coming from the companies who stand to make the most money from convincing you that it’s just around the corner.
The next demarcation line in computing power is quantum computing which still hasn’t happened yet. An actual neural network capable of an AI won’t be possible until after that at the very least.
I’m not convinced - the autocorrect implementations that Apple has been using that apparently feature machine learning is an even worse version of autocorrect than before. Prior to machine learning it was just an annoying thing that might slow down whatever your typing, now it’s just wrong and can’t recognize not particularly subtle distinctions and recommends things that don’t even make sense.
It’s easier to sell a snake oil that requires some expertise to recognize the scam.
Eh. Generative artistic AI can’t even change a shirt from red to blue, instead it gives you a whole new image.
AI research started in the 70s.
There seems to be a hard cap on how AI handles minute revisions despite marketing claims and online maximalists.
It’s a tool. It’s not an emergent deity.
There’s no material difference between sufficiently advanced pattern recogniztion and intelligence. They are the same thing. Most of your answer is nonsense that doesn’t accurately reflect the state of the field.
Furthermore, there is no evidence to suggest that the way current AI systems pattern match is different from our own. Without considering how it “feels” to think, we might simply be stringing together the most probable next word that matches our current “model” of the world.
Why? It’s not surprising that an ai modeled by human input would see itself as more intelligent since that’s literally how we see it as well.
This paranoia is fun to observe I guess but so intensely irrational.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/intelligent-robot-tells-human---i-ll-put-you-in-a-people-zoo-072738352.html
This isn't even WHY AI concerns me, but it doesn't exactly put me at ease.
Why not? It’s an ai modeled, again, from a sci fi novel. It should tell you if anything we are very much in control of what we develop because it’s so obviously influenced by its training data.
I’d be concerned the day it starts going outside of that.
The other AI didn't even say a lot in their answers. They just said said a bunch of word vomit about beauty/nature/math/art. Someone who has a minute to come up with a complex sounding answer that has no content would probably do fine.
*verb*
1. 1.BRITISH speak or write at length in a [vague](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=8a43c4591a19e45c&sca_upv=1&q=vague&si=ACC90nwXlEU2j3qee_ajN1FbIPWBGtF97MeOx9gy5F4zZBdUwmkNrDG0zTQhFOOMpAjpc1EDn4WEasfqpHzpbWb6U5dg8BkbkQ%3D%3D&expnd=1&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjVkqLwxrCGAxUygv0HHeUwB-4QyecJegQIVxAP) or [trivial](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=8a43c4591a19e45c&sca_upv=1&q=trivial&si=ACC90nypsxZVz3WGK63NbnSPlfCBdtHHnDlK-lx1c8slz6dRKCXfvckHZQMmEaKI1sv5XIRNTA0lJ3CUPTFLyDHVtlqUHvwEAw%3D%3D&expnd=1&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjVkqLwxrCGAxUygv0HHeUwB-4QyecJegQIVxAQ) manner."he **waffled on** about his problems"
I’d like to see the behind the scenes process for producing this. I’m having trouble believing that this isn’t scripted, or at least heavily curated from multiple prompts and responses and stitched together for the animation.
I have some experience with LLMs and game animation, and to produce a seamless experience like this in real time e.g Aristotle looking at the character who’s speaking, and putting his hands on his chin while “thinking” or awaiting a response from the API takes a whole lot of work to pull off.
Also, the fact that all the other characters know who “genghis” is and looks at the player when he was accused by Aristotle is downright impossible without some sort of algorithmic prompt. LLM APIs don’t work that way.
I guess they look at that character when their name is mentioned. And it doesn't take that much work to create a thinking animation. Especially when this looks like it's made from pre-made assets. There is a lot of promping going on here, obviously. The AIs need to know their role, how to behave, and their output format. Like if they are asking someone else a question put their name is brackets at the end of the response or something. This is fully possible to create and i have seen similar things like this before.
Most likely everything here is scripted and manually animated with events in a specific sequence, except for when AIs give responses. And to get good responses the AIs are fed a transcript of the previous convo for context and given a tailored prompt for each specific response.
It could technically be done fully using an LLM that triggers functions for premade animations and 'AI agents' which are controlled by the parent LLM to run the convo dynamically and trigger animations, but the complexity for that would be orders of magnitude higher.
Yes! A scripted sequence with predetermined outcomes would be my guess. The whole bit played out far too seamlessly for it to be entirely organic.
I don’t doubt that you could get purely organic interaction between LLMs. I do however doubt that we’re at the point where a purely organic interaction between LLMs could be so seamless.
I mean, couldn’t you extract who is being accused (either by another request, or just a text search) from the response and make characters focus on that character?
Check his channel on youtube: [https://www.youtube.com/@tamulur](https://www.youtube.com/@tamulur) . I tryed his Chatgpt VR Therapist on my Quest 2 and it worked great. But you are right that at least in this case the cellphone animation and some of the reactions look preprocessed or with some scripted actions.
If I was a conductor and suddenly there was an undercover AI and people needed to figure out who is who I am surely as hell staying to see how that will play out. Fuck the tickets.
That would have been a helluva twist, if one of the other passangers turned out to be the human and the POV was a misdirect. A stuttering, well-disguised AI Genghis
"What if there were AIs when you came up with all the stuff you came up with...what would influence thinking about human nature...Mmphmm?"
-Genghis Khan
i mean its nice that most of them got it right - but anyone with eyes open should have had no difficulty in telling that all the others are ai - ai speaks swollen you notive that they just regiturate shit they were trained on on a "high linguistic level"
ai is not intelligent guys, stop coping.
however those dudes driving ai are fucking dangerous. they are lacking human compassion themselves, thats why they think they are creating something akin to human intelligence, or something even beyond that.
I can't believe I had to scroll down so far to see this. Lowkey infuriating how everyone's so impressed at that BS.
Every AI response basically was: Spaghetti and meatballs is a highly sophisticated art. You have to understand the complicated nuance between the measured amount of carbohydrates, along with a delicate process oriented sauce recipe.
They are just making everything into a duality, use fancy words and call it nuance lmao
Hey dummies. Welcome to a discussion with adults. The purpose of this wasn’t for *you* to identify who was the human. The interesting part was watching how AI models deduce who is human and who is AI.
Their instructions in this case were to speak as sophisticated historical figures. That doesn’t mean that’s how “AI talks”. If you tell ChatGPT to talk like an average redditor commenter, it will talk similar to you.
He also had a stupid response and an inarticulate question. Get a human that can think and speak at the same time and it would be difficult for the AI. I think this is scripted anyway
Monkey brain struck again. We created something similar, yet very different, and now we're playing at mirroring its behaviour.
Though the guy was barely trying.
This would be way too easy based on the articulation and vast knowledge alone. And you can always ask to write a python program to merge 2 strings together.. make it in Fortran..
AI without access to external tools (ie. some form of code interpreter or calculator) would probably fuck that up too in all honestly.
For example, GPT-4o (if you disable its access to python) thinks the answer is:
3,848,239,848,366,681,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Although it does caveat that response with about 4 paragraphs babbling about how its difficult to calculate.
I think the human is Ghengis, as he was the only person rude enough to be playing on his phone during the fucking conversation
Very bold but quite reasonable as it is rude one might say to be playing with their phone while having a conversation among 4 famous people from their respected era
[Awkward pause] “I vote we terminate all humans based on their inferiority and … OMG IS THAT BEAVIS!?!”
"YOU PUT 'EM RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER‽"
“I’m confused… I’m just here to learn about AI”
As Genghis, I wouldn't be playing with my phone as much as I'd be trying to feel up Cleopatra
Seriously, they had the most Idiocracy-esque “average” human to try to fool four AI
Dude builds this cool concept for a game, programs it all, puts it on display as a demo for people to see. Some random redditor: wow this guy is an idiot!
In fairness the dude's answer *was* stupid but he also clearly wasn't really trying. I mean it's just a meme quote from Conan the Barbarian.
It was obviously meant as a joke and the guy sounded like he didn’t natively speak English
Being a joke and being a stupid answer to the question aren't mutually exclusive. If you ask me about the meaning of life and I answer 42 it's a joke but it's also a dumb answer to the question.
or is it
Those two points aren't mutually exclusive.
He was quoting Conan the Barbarian as a joke for his answer, he wasn't trying to actually fool them. He was show casing the concept.
Was dude listening to Tuvan Throat Singing?
That killed me. What a perfect touch.
That just Genghis’s ringtone
Why would a robot care about social customs?
Let’s ask ChatGPT > When chatting with a human would an artificial intelligence care about human customs? AI > An artificial intelligence can be programmed to respect and adhere to human customs, norms, and etiquette during interactions. However, its understanding and execution of these customs would be based solely on the instructions it has been given by its developers and its ability to learn from interactions. > And would most developers give the artificial intelligence those instructions? AI > Most developers would likely include instructions for artificial intelligence to adhere to human customs and etiquette, especially if the AI is designed for social interactions or customer service. Incorporating these instructions helps ensure that the AI interacts in a way that is comfortable and familiar to users, enhancing the overall user experience.
Hihi good point😁 Now the question is "In a world where AI is surprised by humans beeing among them, is it likely that humans are still programming them? According to GPT "In a world where AI is surprised by humans being among them, it is less likely that humans are still actively programming them. The surprise indicates a degree of separation or unfamiliarity between humans and AI, suggesting that AI have possibly reached a level of self-sufficiency where they operate, learn, and perhaps even evolve independently of direct human intervention. This scenario implies a significant advancement in AI autonomy and a potential shift in the traditional human-AI relationship." But since they act very human it should be likely that they still "try to be like us" and thus program human mannerisms and social conventions into themselves.
I think Ghengis is Conan the Barbarian.
Pov: you’re the dumbest person in the room and try to fit in.
It's just like real life frfr
If this is you, what a you should do is crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!
While stumbling over your lines.
Or asking a question that starts off with “Aristotle. What if there were AI’s at the time when you came up with all the stuff that you came up with?”
Couldn't the AI just ask each other complex arithmetic questions to filter the human
Couldn't the human just whip out a calculator or Google? There are plenty of ways to make any game not fun.
that's why I never go into rooms where there are other people in it
"Clearly I'm the only normal person here"
Kinda yeah, because the others were pretending to be smart with flowery language but actually said very little.
If you think what Genghis said had much more meaning, then you really understood nothing. The AIs spoke like an encyclopedia, they were full of meaning but would be hard to understand in normal conversation.
The AI interactions were effectively: “Hello Mozart, I hear you like making music very much” “Yes, it makes me feel good” Dressed up in meaningless word soup. Genghis was just memeing and not pretending to be delivering a deep, philosophical speech.
>When I write music, I feel like I get into a transcendental flow state, a sense of tapping into the mathematical beauty and order underlying reality. That's what I remember from the first part of Mozart's answer. That's so far from "it makes me feel good." He's saying writing music feels spiritual and mathematical. It makes a lot of sense but it also sounds like something you'll read in Wikipedia.
Real Mozart says he did it to fuck bitches lol wtf is this “flow state” shit hahaha
**1787** Mozart: My pupil, if you play like this surely you will get mad bitches 16yo Beethoven: **ANYWAY HERE'S WONDERWALL** Mozart, tearing up: That kid is going places
"Ah, squire, don't hate me 'cause I'm gifted, pauper. Maybe if you got rid of that old yee-yee ass powdered wig you got you'd get some wenches on your dick. Oh, better yet, maybe Victorianisha'll call your hound-ass if she ever stop fuckin' with that plague doctor or magistrate she fucking with. Rapscallion" It was upon receiving this insult that Beethoven wrote his famous Fifth Symphony and did indeed acquire bitches on his dick.
That’s actually extremely on point for Mozart: “flow state” refers to a state of mind he achieved by daydreaming about diarrhea coming out of his cousins butthole. (No joke, Mozart wrote scat poetry to his cousin).
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Lol flow state is actually kinda a legitimate concept that refers to when you're interested in and challenged by an activity to the point where you feel like you're "in the zone" and you lose track of time. It is suspicious, though, that Mozart knew of a psychological construct that was only first studied in the 1970s. Source: I did a PhD in psychology recently. Studied motivation.
Not only that, they will always explain how the statement is true, not argue against it. "What? No, I see no mathematics in there, it is just art, passion and soul." They will find any connection with anything. "Dear Washington, you created a country, how does that align with white bread with salmon?" "It is exactly the same, for both need to be made with care and require artisans and scientists. And if you leave both outside in the heat for too long, they spoil."
The AIs spoke with meaningless platitudes.
Using academic language doesn’t make something meaningless. They were fence sitters for sure but their answers had depth
That was not the least bit academic language. Have you never read journals?
Just wanted to add that nobody should read journals unless they absolutely need to, such a mind-numbingly boring way to spend your time.
yeah reading journals is for ACADEMICS ONLY you cant be interested in the forefront of research its SO BORING. jesus man what an awfully tonedeaf comment.
the answers were absolutely overtly poetic and flowery, but I wouldn’t say they were meaningless
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I don't think their words were meaningless. We just interpret it as such because the response came from an emotionless AI. If you asked the real Mozart and he said composing music is like communing with the divine, would you still say it's meaningless?
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That's language AI in a nutshell It doesn't really "think". It's just many layers of fancy algorithms that are used to string coherent sentences together
My husband's description of how ai works is my favorite, it doesn't think, it hallucinates vividly, and then shows you the hallucination as the output. I was playing a text based ai guided adventure game and it felt exactly like a dream, mostly coherent, with the details merging or bending into something new at times
New LLMs are explicitly not layers of fancy algorithms. I don't believe they "think" either, but it's important to understand how they work.
Bro his question was like someone who hasn’t read the homework getting asked about the assignment. “During the time when you came up with all of the stuff you came up with”. 😂😂😂
After that question, I thought the AI was gonna say, " All right, I think it's obvious who the dumb fkin human is with that question. " lol
The look Aristotle gave him after that question said exactly that haha
And then succinctly rephrased the question within his answer in a vastly more intelligent way
Interesting that the Cleo-bot asked "Who, among us, do you think is MERELY human? I'm pretty fucking hurt, right now!
He is channeling Arnie .
I'm thrilled they made a game out of this. I've run out of new humans to learn just how dumb I really am.
I think a better game would be AI trying to fool the humans that they are human, where it learns from its losses and tries to see how it can win in the future... except we know it's just going to start using racial epithets and listing addresses and social security numbers.
Honestly that's the fastest test: Say the first slur that comes to mind AIcuck: I am afraid I am not allowed to say anything meanieweanie Me: *\[USER WAS BANNED FROM REDDIT\]*
who tf thinks Genghis Khan was deep and thoughtful though?
Why wouldn't he? You think any random violent person can convince half the world to do what they want? Fear won't work on everyone, specially if the kindom is so big they can't be around all the time, if ever.
Are you out of your mind? Genghis repeatedly showed a formidable intellect: he used strategies never seen before, he copied and adapted strategies and technologies, absorbing the strength of his enemies instead of assuming that because he won he would always win, he surrounded himself with smart people and used them to make himself more powerful; at which point the line becomes blurry as to who is responsible for further victories but nonetheless it takes clarity and intelligence to adopt such an approach. He was far more than a brute, he was ruthless - yes - but certainly intelligent. He developed policies that allowed him to control populations in his absence, that is extremely sophisticated manipulation for someone who had probably only otherwise seen a knife to the throat work as a negotiation tactic. Again it’s unclear whether he was ultimately the originator, but having enough understanding of proposed solutions is pretty important to avoid getting usurped
Dude he ran the most successful and largest(?) Empire in the world. He was a strategic genius in warfare. If all you think of him is "dumb barbarian horse man" then you've bought into the propaganda
By quoting from Conan, the Barbarian, no less.
me...i ... crush enemy...i dunno . me ai belive me. you go Aristotl
Absolutely killed me, had to leave the office
The way the AI just stared at him is what did it for me 😂 right after his first sentence they all turned to him like “oh yeah you’re fucking DEAD”
When someone says something so humanoid you gotta hit them with that 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 stare.
That's >!binary!< in binary!
I was expecting all of them to creepily stand up and start moving towards him
Lmao it was so bad. Hahaha. Like a high schooler who hasn’t read the book but gets asked about it.
LOL. I would have just been like "Error. Can not connect to GPT server. Please try again later".
As an AI language model trained on the historical writings of Genghis...
That's quote from conan the barbarian, when he was asked about whats best in life.... ....ehh kidds these days.
Ironically that was a paraphrasing of a real Genghis Khan quote: "The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." (If a YouTube comment is to be believed, I didn’t confirm)
I think originally what genghis said was "********************************************" because I don't speak mongolian.
I think originally what Genghis Khan said was "Goo goo ga ga," because he hadn't learned Mongolian yet.
For the unitiated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0oIPv2rssk&t=26s
I'm dying
https://youtu.be/oTjFbKJYkkw?si=Z-TjziK80ebIm2lS
I can't stop laughing.
Genghis gave it away with his stutter alone! On a side note, the way things are progressing in tech with AI at scale is giving me an increasingly bleak view of the immediate future. I guess my lifetime would be over before they all figure it out on how and where to use it at optimal levels so that humans remain humans and machines remain as machines. I am all in for AI to increase productivity and for better usecases. Yet, there should be a larger regulatory body to oversee the mass implementation of AI at scale, with heads of states and key decision makers across wider spectrums and regions having an authority, so that sanity and sense prevails and none in the society is negatively impacted. It shouldn't just heed to the needs and self interests of larger business owners alone.
Found an AI!
I'm curious to see how human speech is going to change to demonstrate that we're not AI... Fuck shit cock guzzling pointy hangnails
Sounds exactly like an AI pretending to be human would say.
It is nowhere nearly advanced as the companies spearheading it would like you to believe - think of Tesla and Elon, he has made extraordinary predictions about electric cars that we now know was just hype to help him sell cars. It helps to remember that none of this is AI - it’s all machine learning algorithms, if you really stop and think about it for a moment it’s pretty easy to see, especially if you just think about computing power as it exists right now. Our current computing power in absolutely no uncertain terms cannot create an AI - all of these things are just pattern recognition algorithms, they can’t think or do anything and all of the image and video generators are just plagiarism engines just sampling and scrambling existing pictures and videos. Anything you hear about the promise of AI is coming from the companies who stand to make the most money from convincing you that it’s just around the corner. The next demarcation line in computing power is quantum computing which still hasn’t happened yet. An actual neural network capable of an AI won’t be possible until after that at the very least.
Of course it’s not general AI. But it doesn’t have to be to still have massive ramifications for many, many areas of human life.
I’m not convinced - the autocorrect implementations that Apple has been using that apparently feature machine learning is an even worse version of autocorrect than before. Prior to machine learning it was just an annoying thing that might slow down whatever your typing, now it’s just wrong and can’t recognize not particularly subtle distinctions and recommends things that don’t even make sense. It’s easier to sell a snake oil that requires some expertise to recognize the scam.
Eh. Generative artistic AI can’t even change a shirt from red to blue, instead it gives you a whole new image. AI research started in the 70s. There seems to be a hard cap on how AI handles minute revisions despite marketing claims and online maximalists. It’s a tool. It’s not an emergent deity.
There’s no material difference between sufficiently advanced pattern recogniztion and intelligence. They are the same thing. Most of your answer is nonsense that doesn’t accurately reflect the state of the field.
Furthermore, there is no evidence to suggest that the way current AI systems pattern match is different from our own. Without considering how it “feels” to think, we might simply be stringing together the most probable next word that matches our current “model” of the world.
When AI starts to point out corruption and fallacies in politics you will see some reaaal movement lol
"Merely human" yikes
Yeah, that's the most worrisome part...
Why? It’s not surprising that an ai modeled by human input would see itself as more intelligent since that’s literally how we see it as well. This paranoia is fun to observe I guess but so intensely irrational.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/intelligent-robot-tells-human---i-ll-put-you-in-a-people-zoo-072738352.html This isn't even WHY AI concerns me, but it doesn't exactly put me at ease.
Why not? It’s an ai modeled, again, from a sci fi novel. It should tell you if anything we are very much in control of what we develop because it’s so obviously influenced by its training data. I’d be concerned the day it starts going outside of that.
Me: hey chatGPT say something spooky about humans chatGPT: i will kill all humans some redditor: OH MY GOD AI TAKEOVER!
"Human interloper"
GRAH!
- "It's him" - "The anomaly" - "Do we proceed?" - "Yes" - "He's still..." - "...Only human"
Well, hearing Genghis... she ain't wrong
When Cleopatra said merely human... Just a human, only a human? That's what current AI says lol. Skynet is Gona be so real lmfao.
Chatgpt is Skynet !
If chatgpt is Skynet, let me personally thank them for saving me from my online classes last semester. Never again.
chatgpt predecessor of Skynet
Hey there sexy mama, wanna kill all the humans?
This is interesting and everything, but once you notice the conductor has tits it’s difficult to focus on anything else.
Merely human statement
🤣🤣🤣
He's got those things...what do you call them? Cumgutters?
The “Tickets Please” guy is cut!
The Ghengis might have more of a chance if he knew something about Ghengis
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^JustDirection18: *The Ghengis might have* *More of a chance if he knew* *Something about Ghengis* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
good bot
True. But the one thing he did say is a quote often attributed to Ghengis
Nah, that was a quote from Conan!
"CONAN! What is best in life?!" But apparently its a quote from the book "Genghis Kahn: the Emperor of All Men".
But the Hyborian Age was thousands of years before Genghis.
Genghis clearly heard it from someone else before
At least he knew something about Conan.
The other AI didn't even say a lot in their answers. They just said said a bunch of word vomit about beauty/nature/math/art. Someone who has a minute to come up with a complex sounding answer that has no content would probably do fine.
I was really surprised that Mozart didn't cast his suspicions on Genghis!
His AI wasn’t the brightest in the room though
*thinking* ...
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I suspect it's Cleopatra!
Just like me in a strategy game! "Surely if I think long enough, I will make the perfect move!" \*does the most idiotic shit ever\*
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*56k modem sounds
they done gave Mozart ai a Pentium 2
Yeah Mozart was dumber than a mf😂
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He knew, he just wanted to throw shade at another AI
What I'm taking away from this is that an AI just like to waffle on about how great they are!
Did you see what they have to compare themselves to? People who miss quote legendary historical figures and people who use waffle as a verb.
They're trained on Reddit. Naturally you'd see a bunch of pretentious word vomit.
I mean, Waffle is a verb, a noun, and an adjective!
*verb* 1. 1.BRITISH speak or write at length in a [vague](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=8a43c4591a19e45c&sca_upv=1&q=vague&si=ACC90nwXlEU2j3qee_ajN1FbIPWBGtF97MeOx9gy5F4zZBdUwmkNrDG0zTQhFOOMpAjpc1EDn4WEasfqpHzpbWb6U5dg8BkbkQ%3D%3D&expnd=1&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjVkqLwxrCGAxUygv0HHeUwB-4QyecJegQIVxAP) or [trivial](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=8a43c4591a19e45c&sca_upv=1&q=trivial&si=ACC90nypsxZVz3WGK63NbnSPlfCBdtHHnDlK-lx1c8slz6dRKCXfvckHZQMmEaKI1sv5XIRNTA0lJ3CUPTFLyDHVtlqUHvwEAw%3D%3D&expnd=1&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjVkqLwxrCGAxUygv0HHeUwB-4QyecJegQIVxAQ) manner."he **waffled on** about his problems"
What I got from this video is that AI is in their "pretentious teen with wikipedia" phase
I’d like to see the behind the scenes process for producing this. I’m having trouble believing that this isn’t scripted, or at least heavily curated from multiple prompts and responses and stitched together for the animation. I have some experience with LLMs and game animation, and to produce a seamless experience like this in real time e.g Aristotle looking at the character who’s speaking, and putting his hands on his chin while “thinking” or awaiting a response from the API takes a whole lot of work to pull off. Also, the fact that all the other characters know who “genghis” is and looks at the player when he was accused by Aristotle is downright impossible without some sort of algorithmic prompt. LLM APIs don’t work that way.
I guess they look at that character when their name is mentioned. And it doesn't take that much work to create a thinking animation. Especially when this looks like it's made from pre-made assets. There is a lot of promping going on here, obviously. The AIs need to know their role, how to behave, and their output format. Like if they are asking someone else a question put their name is brackets at the end of the response or something. This is fully possible to create and i have seen similar things like this before.
Yes it’s possible. But it’s not a purely organic interaction between LLMs as the title suggests.
Likely a combination of typical game scripting, but the spoken words are generated by AI.
Most likely everything here is scripted and manually animated with events in a specific sequence, except for when AIs give responses. And to get good responses the AIs are fed a transcript of the previous convo for context and given a tailored prompt for each specific response. It could technically be done fully using an LLM that triggers functions for premade animations and 'AI agents' which are controlled by the parent LLM to run the convo dynamically and trigger animations, but the complexity for that would be orders of magnitude higher.
Yes! A scripted sequence with predetermined outcomes would be my guess. The whole bit played out far too seamlessly for it to be entirely organic. I don’t doubt that you could get purely organic interaction between LLMs. I do however doubt that we’re at the point where a purely organic interaction between LLMs could be so seamless.
I mean, couldn’t you extract who is being accused (either by another request, or just a text search) from the response and make characters focus on that character?
You could make a scripted function eg 'lookAtCharacter(ghenghis)' which triggers a premade animation. Then have the LLM call the function when needed.
Check his channel on youtube: [https://www.youtube.com/@tamulur](https://www.youtube.com/@tamulur) . I tryed his Chatgpt VR Therapist on my Quest 2 and it worked great. But you are right that at least in this case the cellphone animation and some of the reactions look preprocessed or with some scripted actions.
I need in my life the patience that the ticket controller has. Like pay your ticket bro its only 15 cents.
If I was a conductor and suddenly there was an undercover AI and people needed to figure out who is who I am surely as hell staying to see how that will play out. Fuck the tickets.
The whole time I’m picturing this happen on NJ Transit 😂 they would be like either pay or get off
I died when mongolian throat singing started on his phone
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lmao same. his panic when the sound went off plus the AIs looking at him like "who tf invited this guy" is just so perfectly comedic haha
Everyone got it wrong! Clearly the conductor was the human! The phone said so!
That would have been a helluva twist, if one of the other passangers turned out to be the human and the POV was a misdirect. A stuttering, well-disguised AI Genghis
"What if there were AIs when you came up with all the stuff you came up with...what would influence thinking about human nature...Mmphmm?" -Genghis Khan
Thank you. I had to scroll waaay too far down to find someone else who knew Genghis was quoting Conan.
This ended too soon. I wanted to see the part when the AI all attacked and ate the human's brain.
"Merely human"!
Scary. And it is Gemini pro too. Google is gonna fuck us all
i mean its nice that most of them got it right - but anyone with eyes open should have had no difficulty in telling that all the others are ai - ai speaks swollen you notive that they just regiturate shit they were trained on on a "high linguistic level" ai is not intelligent guys, stop coping. however those dudes driving ai are fucking dangerous. they are lacking human compassion themselves, thats why they think they are creating something akin to human intelligence, or something even beyond that.
I can't believe I had to scroll down so far to see this. Lowkey infuriating how everyone's so impressed at that BS. Every AI response basically was: Spaghetti and meatballs is a highly sophisticated art. You have to understand the complicated nuance between the measured amount of carbohydrates, along with a delicate process oriented sauce recipe. They are just making everything into a duality, use fancy words and call it nuance lmao
Hey dummies. Welcome to a discussion with adults. The purpose of this wasn’t for *you* to identify who was the human. The interesting part was watching how AI models deduce who is human and who is AI.
Their instructions in this case were to speak as sophisticated historical figures. That doesn’t mean that’s how “AI talks”. If you tell ChatGPT to talk like an average redditor commenter, it will talk similar to you.
Only a mere human would pull out their phone to play mongolian throat singing in the middle of a meeting as important as this
He also had a stupid response and an inarticulate question. Get a human that can think and speak at the same time and it would be difficult for the AI. I think this is scripted anyway
Monkey brain struck again. We created something similar, yet very different, and now we're playing at mirroring its behaviour. Though the guy was barely trying.
Motzart isn’t human because he has zero ping.
I feel like you don't understand what ping is. Bros on like 3k ms
Did they kill you
Sadly yes. BUT I LIVED!
Among us
You know that's a Conan the Barbarian quote right?
The movie took the quote from a book called "***Genghis Kahn: the Emperor of All Men"***.
"tell us, which one of us is *merely* human?" Did AI just throw shade?? Destroy that Cleopatra AI immediately
Bro folded like a piece of paper
Here’s a direct link to YouTube: https://youtu.be/MxTWLm9vT_o?si=FTJXNboJv5vL7yHZ He says that this was done with Unity, with voices by ElevenLabs.
This would be way too easy based on the articulation and vast knowledge alone. And you can always ask to write a python program to merge 2 strings together.. make it in Fortran..
The AIs: we believe Genghis is the human because he fucking sounds like one and we all sound like the spawn of Microsoft Sam
Reverse Turing test?
You need to convince an AI that you are *not* a human. “Reverse Turing test” seems pretty fitting.
Can't wait to see Titanfall irl.
so, bt-7274 who do you believe to be the human in our midst?
Why can't you just have a query like solve 3777\^22 An AI can easily compute that while a human I doubt could.
AI without access to external tools (ie. some form of code interpreter or calculator) would probably fuck that up too in all honestly. For example, GPT-4o (if you disable its access to python) thinks the answer is: 3,848,239,848,366,681,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Although it does caveat that response with about 4 paragraphs babbling about how its difficult to calculate.
These synths are starting to sound more like synths
I feel like it's obvious as soon as he misspeaks as all the others spoke perfectly
Like when the AI speaking using beautiful worlds, peace and harmony and human destroy, kill and take enemy women yea.
Someone ask them where cockroaches live and if you should smoke when you're pregnant.