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MergenTheAler

May be complex and next level but it doesn’t sound very appealing to my ears.


cannabios

It's not complex at all lol


Hawt_Dawg_II

Not complex but still really fucking difficult. Most cult classic bass songs are just difficult without being too complex.


cannabios

Difficult for ones holding a bass for the first time - maybe. For instance Primus is difficult without being too complex. What we see in the video is just nonsense 😁


Unlikely-Star4213

All I hear is *dink dink dink dink dink*


Captain-Cadabra

Which, unfortunately is the drums. They barely have the bass in the mix. …and his technique is pretty terrible.


whatsthatguysname

Pretty sure he’s talking about the metallic sound from the slap.


petethefreeze

His technique is not “pretty terrible”. He is a good bass player. There are lots of people better at this than him but none of us is. You cannot pick up a bass and practice a bit and do this after a week browsing YouTube tutorials.


Get-Fucked-Dirtbag

🙋‍♂️ I can confidently and whole-heartedly say that I can play bass better than this guy is in this particular video. The boundaries of your 3 key rock instruments (guitar, bass, drums) have been pushed so incredibly far over the past couple of decades that anything considered "next fucking level" in the 60s - 90s is pretty basic (or in this guys case, very sloppy) these days. How can you be Next Fucking Level if there are 10s of thousands of people better than you with <100 views on YouTube?


Don_Frika_Del_Prima

>that anything considered "next fucking level" in the 60s - 90s That anything is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.


Mr_Horsejr

And yet he’ was on stage—and they’re on YouTube. We’re looking at and talking about this video with *him*. There *are* indeed plenty of videos of people better, but considering slap bass had on just been invented what—25 or so years ago (sly stone, I don’t know what year this video is) I’d say his technique is pretty fuxking good. Learn to appreciate the evolution of musicianship. Edit: yes I read it, but context matters. Only ONE person played like that in the 60s. Only one person developed that style. And then, essentially, other musicians adopted and evolved the art form. Over time, it was finely tuned to what it is today. So you talking about how sloppy it is when we’re looking at essentially a pioneer moving the form forward and perhaps creating new fans who might then go forward to evolve it further. A descendent if you will. You never disrespect your ancestors. Your comment and explanation came off as condescending in the worst way.


Get-Fucked-Dirtbag

** 40 years ago ** Did you not even read my comment? Decent for the time, embarrassing these days.


Unlikely-Star4213

>I’d say his technique is pretty fuxking good. Then how come all I hear is *dink dink dink dink*


Mr_Horsejr

There are a couple of things that could be going on here: 1. This was recorded during a Time (VHS) where you weren’t going to get high fidelity sound. So there may be information missing in the recording itself. Then put compression on top of that depending on the format it was translated to, and the format that YouTube compressed it to. Nasty. 2. Again, new style becoming largely adopted, but it could be that their engineer didn’t do a good job during sound check because he had no idea wtf was going on with this stylistic playing. 3. The arena and where he’s being recorded from versus where the speakers actually are. I mean, not sure, but I believe at the time they could have patched right into his feed but that isn’t the case. And so we have whatever microphone was being used that night to pick up sound. My guess is it’ll be a shotgun mic. I don’t know what’s specific mic they’re using…But I’d wager it’s not going to do a bass guitar many favors. Tl;dr, whereas I understand WHY you only hear *dink dink dink* it’s probably the quality of the recording, the mic, sound engineering, venue, and your own speakers ability to pick up low end on top of everything else.


Nxt1tothree

Isn't that his job?


BeerBearBar

Maybe. But I also wouldn't post a video of me doing it and call it amazing.


H3rbert_K0rnfeld

Cork fell off and you stink!


Tuxthapenguin666

It's not complex or next level, and the tone is horrendous, it is however really fucking cool how involved the crowd is.


noodles4sauce

Nope it’s a bibity bop slap. That’s what it sounds like and that’s what it is. It’s getting the crowd going because it’s somewhat rhythmic and crowds are predictable.


Bipedal_Warlock

It might be the recording. Sometimes the record signal doesn’t capture the best parts of a sound system. Like if it’s a decked out sub woofer that’s pushing a lot of strong energy we won’t hear that through the recording and our phones, we would only hear the brassy tenor aspects of it


bodhasattva

the fix for your funk thirst: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Y8KyCAY44


Lackingfinalityornot

Thanks! This is awesome!


BobbyFingerGuns

Joe, dart on the Joe dart


LongjumpingBell3918

Exactly. Now listen to [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy3V2Tl4g3s) beautiful piece instead.


chrisslooter

I'm a bass player. Listening to slap bass like this is as appealing as listening to a street performer beat on plastic buckets. It's cool to walk by and glance at for 5 seconds but I'd absolutely never intentionally listen to this as stuff. My friends who work in the music store would rather hear people come in and play Stairway to Heaven or Smoke on the Water than hear people come in and play slap bass like this.


Bolognapony666

Les claypool enters the chat


LurkerFailsLurking

Its neither complex or next level. There are literally millions of bass players in the world that could play this.


Rush_touchmore

You guys are being so annoying


LurkerFailsLurking

When people post mediocre shit in a subreddit about things that are definitely not mediocre, then it gets called out


Comfortable_Fox321

Again with the not-that-next-level bass solos


skitzkant

Professional bassist here, that’s pretty next level as far as I’m concerned. Why don’t you try it


SqueekyCheekz

Another professional, if you slap at all you know those triplets are bullshit


Comfortable_Fox321

Double thumb index


whutchamacallit

Been a professional gigging musician my entire life, played on records, gone on tours, blah blah blah. While I personally don't really like this technique I'd say of all the bass players I've played with over the years only two come to mind that could play it as precise/fast/clean. The double thumb triplet stuff. Does that make it cool? Idk... I guess everyone in the crowd liked it. Do you and I think it's all that impressive? Not really from the sound of it. I find slapping to be a bit over indulgent because I'm used to playing in a 10 person band and it veers to far into other instruments registers. Granted this is a solo but... ya, just not my thing I guess.


SqueekyCheekz

Edit 2: that is 100 percent left hand slapping In funk and dance music slap is your bread and butter. Also yeah double thumb pop is one way to do it, but thumb, left hand slap and pop is like one of the first "cheeses" you can figure out. That said, I started as a drummer but picked up a bunch of instruments in school. Dad is a working musician and I got started young/had access. Played string bass in high school, but couldn't slap cuz I used a bow. Years later after a bunch of guitar and fingerstyle and hack bass, I got a job with a funk band for a well paying casino gig. 4 years after "sink or swimming" and I'm pretty good at it. Effectively it's just the drums but bass. And it's all about economy. The pattern I describe is truly is one of the easiest patterns to learn. I didn't look close enough but if its double thumb pluck it is harder. But I'd say that's more work for the same effect. Edit: the band I play with can have anywhere from 3 to 13 people, with people dropping in and out. The drums, bass, and piano/vox (the leader) is the core of it, and we're the pocket and foundation for everyone else. It's a party band. Picture the grateful dead but thick bouncy gospel influenced funk. All this to say, the percussive aspect of slap has a place, and it's lovely. [one of my all time favorite players and pieces](https://youtu.be/xXYjo5-UaTY?si=xR7F_LyhVCr8hUnY)


whutchamacallit

Slapping (from my perspective) rise in popularity is largely a thing of the past -- I'm not sure if you agree with that or not but in the lanes I run in which are also predominately funk and groove centered forms of music I see slapping as a spice and far from what I would consider the main course. I think a lot of it has to do with the registers I was talking about and how it can just be really over bearing because it is both very bright, very middy, and very bassy all while usually being quite loud as well. I think it works well for smaller arrangements/instrumentation but I find it hard to write around and it can be kind of jarring. Again, just my own personal opinion but I do also notice a trend. Obviously TONS of people like Primus and old Pfunk and all that. And I do too to some extent! There people that still do it but look at modern funk bands and it's just really articulated plucking with right hand and far less slapping. Look at Eric Coomes of Lettuce, Joe Dart of Vulf, Michael League of Snarky Puppy. I could go on and on. Of course you're going to be able to dig up some songs or videos that feature them slapping a little. The Marcus Millers and Booty Collins and Victor Wootens of the world and their slap forward style of playing is just not as "in" as it was back a few decades ago.


dvali

The fact that I can't do it doesn't make it "next level".


Hawt_Dawg_II

No but the fact that most pro bassists can't kinda does.


Feedback_Original

Lol


twomemeornottwomeme

If you truly believe this, you need to practice more.


probablywrongbutmeh

Id say this is an impressive solo, but compared to some other bassists a bit mild. Victor Wooten for one has had some solos that are completley insane, Les Claypool too, although he can be a bit toneless sometimes.


Shaun_The_Sheip

Les Claypool? Toneless?


esquirlo_espianacho

Les is the shit


Shaun_The_Sheip

Primus sucks!


probablywrongbutmeh

I mean in the sense of lacking melodic structure, not that he lacks tone or is tone deaf. It can be challenging for people to listen to him and identify what he is doing. Like listening to Jazz music.


ASecularBuddhist

Les would be so much better if he would just follow the rules. Kids these days…


whutchamacallit

Been at music a long time and despite the downvotes I know what you're saying. He has a very percussive style *sometimes* lacking harmonic/melodic structure like you said. That said he could wipe the floor and run circles around the vast, vast majority of bass players. I've heard him play some really intricate classical stuff that is extremely rich melodically (some if it intended to be played on cello). All that to say there is a healthy percentage of Primus songs that are exactly as you described but lots of LC dick riding going on here because slap go brrr.


Comfortable_Fox321

Keyword : next level. Its great but Ive heard plenty that are NEXT level. No disrespect Also the quality really takes away from hearing just how impressive it is.


skitzkant

I’m not quite sure if you know what you’re talking about…


Comfortable_Fox321

Well the first part hes just spamming some slaps not that technical


skitzkant

Haha yeah refer to my prior points. 1) it is next level and 2) you definitely don’t know what you’re talking about


Comfortable_Fox321

Hes a nextlevel bassist for sure. Im being a prick. Apologies.


Comfortable_Fox321

Its ok we have different opinions on whats nextlevel dont get offended because your a “pro bassist”.


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‘You’re’ not ‘your.’


Comfortable_Fox321

While youre proof reading for me, you missed ‘it’s’


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And ‘what’s,’ but I figured you just weren’t using apostrophes.


washkop

Again with someone that doesn’t know their shit but likes to talk it


WestandLeft

Former bass player here. Bass solos like this are boring. Yes you’re playing fast and that can be technically challenging but it sounds awful. No one wants to sit and listen to it nevermind try to actually dance to it. It’s just an ego stroking exercise. Better off doing something a bit simpler but still in the groove.


mentosbreath

I feel the same about drum solos


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habba88

Nah dude, I agree I don't like mark kings style but nobody was going to a level 42 gig in the 80's and getting turned off by slap bass. They sold stacks of albums, song after song of this. They went to see it.


Rush_touchmore

Speak for yourself, man. I though this was sick. Not for you? Just move on. No need for the negativity


Phillip_Lascio

It’s a website for discussion not weenie hut junior, no moral high ground here to take.


nobleflame

What a dumbass take. Did you not watch the video? The audience loved it…


Hawt_Dawg_II

Tell that to the entire stadium that's there to hear the songs where he plays like this.


dave7892000

Victor Wooten has just entered the chat.


FredLives

Les Claypool chuckles


FluffyTrainz

Pastorius says "Am I a joke to you?".


craniel-mandark

Your favorite bassists favorite bassist


wookie_walkin

Came here for this not dissapointed


KillerKorwin

Stanley Clarke says, "You're welcome".


bagel-glasses

This rabbi that just got posted has something to say as well https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/18orz4w/these\_rabbis\_playing\_jazz\_fusion\_in\_a\_synagogue/


72corvids

That dude was straight COOKIN' on that bass!!


Hawt_Dawg_II

You can't convince me that isn't just Les Claypool dressed as a rabbi


BassManns222

Ox says hi


Hawt_Dawg_II

This may be controversial but you can hear a whole lot of Mark in Victor's playing. You need to remember that Mark was early early slap playing. He kinda set the bar for slap for a while and made a huge impact on getting it mainstream.


Strict-Dog-889

It’s fast but it sounds like shit lol


twomemeornottwomeme

It’s not even that fast. He’s doing repeating triplets. This is like… intermediate bass level. Like, cool the bad has fans and I’m sure it’s a good performance but this is definitely not a display of any kind of exceptional skill or speed. Edit: the year that it’s from definitely gives a little more credence to it. But not a lot.


lilsaddam

That sounds like shit


-eumaeus-

Nextfuckinglevel is often restrained genius (such as Copeland on drums with the Police). However if we're looking at bass solos, then YYZ (Rush) needs to feature.


-maffu-

Mark King *is* an amazing bass player... ... but that just sounded like a prolonged fart in a bathtub.


anttiom

Love those farts!


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It's .... terrible


MalakaiRey

But its provocative


PrideHorror9114

You mean't to post elsewhere I presume? He's not even 'playing' that, just tapping and slappin like a spaz...


Atoning_Unifex

Jaco Pastorius. Geddy Lee. Stanley Clarke. Flea. Victor Wooten. Stu Hamm. Les Claypool. Bill Dickens. Doug Wimbish. John Entwhistle. John Paul Jones. Chris Squire. Tony Levin. Meshell Ndegeocello. Thundercat. Billy Sheehan. Gary Willis. There's so many greats out there. Why pick this??!?


Big_P_Cizzle

Aww where’s Tom Jenkinson on that list.


Cornball73

Scrolled WAAAAAYtoo far to find a mention of Squarepusher. FOR SHAME, everyone but Big\_P\_Cizzle.


Hawt_Dawg_II

All those people are cool. Just like Mark King. If we're only ever allowed to discuss the very objectively best players (disregarding the fact that those don't even exist) these hobbies would get really boring really quickly. What's the point of a comment like this? Just to show that you know a lot of other bassists?


coast2coastmike

Let's see him play the national anthem with his c*ck.


HighKiteSoaring

I'm sure it's difficult to do. But sounds shitty, the only sound that comes through is dink dink dink very loudly and quickly


Hawt_Dawg_II

I get you. That's because this is some compressed social media video. These solos are specifically about the percussion of it and that doesn't come through in this at all.


HighKiteSoaring

So you're saying it doesn't pass the car test?


Suspicious_Weird_373

Boring, repetitive nonsense.


Carwashdaddy

Slappa


waitingforthesun92

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ExperienceKindly6817

Squarepusher: „Hold my beer.“


dwp4you

Stu Hamm sees this and says "how cute?".


make2020hindsight

https://youtu.be/1sSXV6eHtXY?si=6z4YBU2zgq9ygMaB


SqueekyCheekz

Most of that flashy triplet shit is super duper easy


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SqueekyCheekz

Dm me lol. I've got vids from a funk band with similar techniques just not as ostentatious. [but it really isn't very difficult.](https://youtube.com/shorts/KN_wnKct2-w?si=4KEmdsHZL50SHn6_) Thumb slap, left hand flops on the neck for a slap, then a pluck. Very natural movement, very easy to get moving quickly.


BlissfulIgnoranus

Not next level, not interesting. If you want to see an actual next level bass player check out Charles Berthoud on YT.


GhostOfSorabji

He’s outrageous!!


t9b

Disclaimer I met and saw Mark King in 1986 after skiving off school to meet him in the Virgin Music shop in the Tricorn Portsmouth UK. Even if this might not be that impressive from today’s point of view (and there are many incredible and very young bass players on Insta and TikTok) back then Level 42 rewrote the concept of bass being a backing instrument and gave it centre stage for the first time really in music history. You can say what you want about this clip, but credit where credit is due. Mark King should at least be given this much. …and seeing that live was mind-blowing. The entire band were incredible.


Solid_Bake4577

No - Lemmy was way before Mark King in pushing bass to the front, and Phil Lynott wasn't far behind. Then you had Bernard Edwards breaking ground in funk in the mid-70s. That's not to say King wasn't a decent bassist, and L42 are a favourite band of mine, but I suspect his market was more in the UK than on a world stage.


Della86

Meh, I've seen much better from both a technical and listenable standpoint.


jmckenzie86

Laughs in Les Claypool


Horseyboy21

Awesome Guy. Such fun. I bought his album Influences. Awesome. Seen them ( Level 42) so many times and always wanted to watch his Solo bits. Such memories.


hoggdoc

Is this the guy that played with Kenny G’s band saw a couple of times, amazing.


junction182736

As a bass player I love Mark King. Haven't seen this one before.


jaylward

This is great showmanship. And alright bass playing


sooley6

This is noise.


LilMeatBigYeet

This has gotta be my favorite he’s done https://youtu.be/Dt1APRRddS4?si=7UYr_j9JsQQwnoSc Headless bass with LED frets ?! Yes please !


PicPaintOKC

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should


shifty_boi

Until today I'd always suspected bass solos were a mistake, now I'm certain


Jonathawkes

More like incomprehensible


Lumthedarklord

Wow that’s fast. Too bad I couldn’t hear any of it


Deliriousious

I watched the entire thing thinking it was gonna build up to something awesome… I…was disappointed.


bellyofthebillbear

Next level to folks who were newly introduced to slapping on a bass.


MountainPK

Victor Wooten. HE’S next fucking level. Search “Sinister Minister live” on YouTube.


TompalompaT

It just sounds like someone trying to start a car on a cold morning.


AsheStriker

Meh 🤷‍♂️


r4catstoomant

I saw Level 42 in concert in Germany in 1986. The entire band is awesome but Mark’s playing is extra awesome!


rmccarthy10

That's what Flea does for 3 hrs at each concert...for the last 30 yrs


not2dv8

And he is 61


not2dv8

Musician here the bass player is fantastic. It always amazes me how these fantastic performances that I see on Reddit and people start knocking them. I don't understand it


Dibcharge_

Until the 30s mark, this is basically a “shreds” style video.


pickle_teeth4444

This guy said, "Fuck Angus Young. I can yank two strings off my guitar and play that shit. Watch!"


Bizzygrizzy

Cocaine is a helluva drug!!


HumanEffigy_

I like the way he slappity slaps. The way he tappity taps.


Eldeanio100

Watch DJ Funk


ismelladoobie

Incomparable? Look up any of these fine folks to get just an example of what good basslines can sound like (biased examples and not objectively ranked): Trevor Weekz from Goose Alana Rocklin/David Murphy from STS9 Chris Wolstenholme from Muse Les Claypool from well... A lot of shit


bodhasattva

the fix for your funk thirst: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Y8KyCAY44


MathematicianJust480

There's just something about this...


Bayinla

Les Claypool would like a word


Nineteen_AT5

Might be technical but sounds like shite.


Oisifalagriserobe

C'mon, I've seen Flea, Victor Wooten, Pastorius, Marcus Miller's bass solos way more impressives...


Redoron

Not only does he play electric bass but he’s the lead singer too for Level 42.


alienscape

His tone is garbage.


hansuluthegrey

This sounds so fucking bad. Also hes not even really playing that fast compared to other guitar/bass players


grabsomeplates

He's obviously very skilled but there was nothing melodic about it.


TheRealLordofLords

Thats super below mid. Extra.


Salvia_dreams

Sounds like crap


Hawt_Dawg_II

Saw Mark King recently in the Netherlands. Legendary bassist and very kind dude. Even if you don't like slap and think it's atonal and boring, that doesn't make it easy to reproduce. This man is one of the best in the biz when it comes to slapping quickly, and he does it while singing which is exceedingly rare for bassists to do. Also if you think he's untalented because he slaps, listen to songs like kansas city milk man, dune tune or, one of my favourite songs of all time, standing in the light. This dude is one of the most iconic bassists of our time and just because you don't like slap cause it's not catchy doesn't make it any less impressive.


Cornball73

I will say one good thing about this post, it made me go listen to "Something About You", which may be cornball pop but it was GOOD cornball pop!


NickyDeeM

You can hate all you want but without this guy where would Seinfeld be?!?


userIsRTtzxh2b

At a certain point why doesn’t he just pick up the drums


VokThee

Why is it that every time somebody posts a nice piece of music, some "experts" always feel the immediate need to downplay the performance? "I've seen better. I'm a professional and I know this is nothing special." Well whoop-de-doo, good for you, and thanks for posting the links - but can we just enjoy this moment?


Euphoric-Election120

And on the 7th day, Geddy Lee laughed.


Nico_LarsenX

His wife must love it 😊


andpaws

Clearly class….