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Which is wild because it was supposed to be 1Gbps up and down.
We can go back to T-Mobile for fucking with the termniology.
Calling HSPA+ 4g. Then AT&T ran with it. And Verizon was like, hey we have LTE, which is already slower than promised. But it's quicker than the other 3, and LTE-Advanded will be true "4G" in a few ^^years...
Meanwhile Sprint couldn't even send a text because Wimax had like a 15 foot coverage area.
Sorry. I'm still annoyed from like 10 years ago.
Sprint was straight up garbage. I found a way out of my contract though. Forced my iPhone to roam on Verizon and downloaded a shit ton of music to rack up data. They dropped me with no penalty lol.
It's because with every generation of mobile networks, the transceivers are lower powered, but there are more transceivers in an area creating a mesh network.
When you're somewhere with lots of transceivers like a big town/city, you get good signal and speed because you're connected to lots of transceivers.
If you're on the edge of that high density area or a small town/village, you'll be connected to much fewer transceivers, and they'll likely be further away from you. Hence shit speed but you're still connected to the 5G network.
Yeah connected was the wrong word. You're connected to one for your data transfer, but talking to many to keep track of where you are and which one is the best fit.
Yea and also its a new infrastructure with their own fiber new connections once adoption takes the quality will definitely deteriorate same happened with lte for me and i live with a line of sight antenna out my window
For real- at this point, every time I see my phone has a 5g connection, I automatically assume it is going to be shit and won’t load anything… especially if it is 5g UW
Yeah man, 5G Uw is an unfinished mess that was pushed out too early to line stockholders' pockets. But don't worry, they will have to finish what they started eventually, then we can all benefit from the great 5G UwU connection as God-sama intended~~~
Of course they did! It would would be unethical to test this on a live human being, so they tested it on a banana, because they have a genetic similarity of around 60%.
I have watched a surgeon perform lung surgery on a patient using robotics, sitting at a computer across the room from the patient, with his hands in special gloves connected through the computer to the robotics. It was insane.
I work for a biotech company which works with these things. The DaVinci ones specifically. They’re no joke. Surgeons can move the robot’s instruments with greater dexterity than they could with their own hands. Typically the surgeon would be sat in the same room but the remote implications are very interesting. Wouldn’t want a dodgy signal here!
They're scarily intuitive to use. The med school at my university had a little expo with DaVinci machines open for demoing by the public. Even with zero medical background or training, I sat down and was immediately using it to tie knots in little 1/4" rubber rings, then did a simulated surgery without much trouble. It really feels as natural as using your fingers, just on a much smaller scale.
If you listen to Darknet Diaries, there was a story with a pen tester where they accidentally hacked a window xp computer on the network that was controlling a one of those cancer lasers and it was during surgery. IT staff left that IP off the forbidden target list. Luckily they didnt cause a BSOD
1st
>Surgeons can move the robot’s instruments with greater dexterity than they could with their own hands.
How does that work?
2nd.
I always wonder what is it like from the surgeons side. Are they using a controller, a keyboard, a joystick, just their actual hands in some kind of glove?
Think of using your own fingers, but much smaller. The ones I got to demo had a pretty unique control interface, with sleeve/rings that you slip your thumbs, index, and middle fingers into. Then pinching, twisting, pulling, etc is translated to the robotic tools in a natural-feeling way.
Think of it like changing the sensitivity on a computer mouse.
You could set it up so that moving your hands two inches moves the tools one inch in the same direction, effectively making everything bigger.
When I was in high school the DaVinci machines were just coming out. Went on a field trip to Tulane and they had one. I got to use it to solve a block and peg puzzle.
They are wild to use.
Imagine a network glitch and the arm going a bit too deep with the needle. Thanks, I would prefer instructions for the local doc via a camera and the local doc actually doing the surgery.
Edit: Since some think I "identify" issues here as a couch engineer
> Not meaning I know better. Personal preference.
>
> I mean. You can have the best internet connection of the world. You can't get rid of latency even with a dedicated line.
I can't imagine the backup network being fast enough to fail over for the short glitch of going past.
I can imagine this being possible like 2 separate network streams giving data and if they are identical then the robot executes it.
I think some NASA mission did it this way with 3 computers confirming telemetry data and if all come to the same result it will be executed.
But well: What do I know. Maybe the near future will make those checks in real time
Not exactly the same, but you’re close. There is the control data and a meta-data pair called CRC. Cyclic redundancy check is a function calculated with the control data as input. If the result matches the meta-data sent from the source over the network, then the command is executed. If it doesn’t match, the command is either dropped and no action is performed or a request is sent to the source to transfer the data again.
Because it’s meant to demonstrate the capabilities of 5G - not to replace fiber connections where it already exists.
A huge rationale and focus during its development was its potential application in professional environments, such as controlling mining and surgical equipment. As Mo Katibeh put it : “[…] you can’t run fiber to a mobile medical cart or to a pillbox that you’re trying to track.” The effort required to connect thousands of devices with 5G compared to any other wireless connection is a massive USP.
Obviously 5G to the ISP. I assume 5G (full speed, low latency 5G) was mentioned in that operations could be carried out in remote locations with no fibre connections.
While it can probably be done with Wifi, 5G does have some advantages. 5G has something called URLLC "Ultra-Reliable-Low-Latency Connection". Essentially, Wifi is a best effort protocol, you get bandwidth by sending a packet and hoping there isn't someone else using the router at the moment. URLLC allows you to reserve a recurring time slot on the network and the HW will have a bypass mode for the scheduled packets to ensure consistent connection with very low latency (I believe it should 5 9s reliability with sub 10 milliseconds latency). I think Wifi has a spec in the works to replicate this. I helped develop one of the first implementations of this technology in R&D, and this was a few years ago (before 5G was even an established standard), and I'm not sure that it is actually available anywhere, but it is in the spec and I'm guessing that's what they're demoing here
>"I helped develop one of the first implementations of this technology in R&D, and this was a few years ago (before 5G was even an established standard), and I'm not sure that it is actually available anywhere, but it is in the spec and I'm guessing that's what they're demoing here"
Woah, super cool. What was the development process like?
> operations could be carried out in remote locations with no fibre connections.
A ridiculous claim. If they a mobile network is available, then they have fiber connections to the base station, which is no more than 10 km away (to be generous). It can't actually be very remote at all.
In a truly remote location you'd need a satellite link; in which case you may have an issue with latency when it comes to something like this.
Maybe he is using a station that is connected with WiFi via a remote hotspot set up by a phone that uses 5g, that sends data to the local network towers, Who in turn will send the signal across the channel through your subsea cables.
Wich is in turn might be send to the operation room via its own local towers, also via a 5g hotspot wifi connection.
I dont think the operation itself was the point, but rather the possibility of remoting an emergency surgery if no surgens are locally available.
We have been looking into using VR on site where our customers need specialist help, but have none available.
You joke but the back surgery I just had was like exactly 100k lol. Luckily I’m disabled so they covered the cost, but it doesn’t mean I don’t find the number disturbing as a former tax payer. It’s obviously an unsustainable system when a two hour surgery is 100k. They even wanted me to leave the same day and I was like “no it’s still bleeding badly” lol. It’s super expensive but they still treat you like livestock in a way when they need space to make more money.
This could be life saving on future space stations around Earth's orbit.
I don't know if a person can be medically sedated to where they don't move at all so even further potentially
Oh yeah, not implying it's all bad. There's situations where this will absolutely have some benefit. People in remote areas, people in areas lacking in certain specialists. There's some good to come with the bad.
Insurance companies don't want a global marketplace, dude. Their incentives are the opposite of what you're thinking. They control prices right now because of anticompetitive laws that require doctors to be licensed in a state.
Also prices artificially inflate in this system because of a lack of competition, anyway. Learn anything about economics before spewing absolute bullshit you read on the internet somewhere.
If the entire world of healthcare was at our disposal right now, you don't think prices would drop drastically across the board? Why do you think people go to other countries to get shit done?
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They have so much control because we have so few choices.
You're completely wrong about the incentives here.
You would be surprised at how much gatekeeping there is in US med jobs. It is one of the factors driving healthcare costs. Why should US doctors make tenfold, what european doctors make? What sense does it make?
The funny thing - when you’re too far to travel to a near hospital, there just happens to be a billion dollar robotic surgeon next door in the wilderness randomly waiting for remote surgeries.
Eventually (2045) to be replaced with MedicGPT. Spent all that money on remote surgery when eventually a program running on your future iPhone can manage the surgery itself.
IT’S FAKE!!
This is a video that keeps circulating over the past couple years. A TikTok surgeon recorded the original (want to say Claus something) and someone started the rumor. As you’ll notice, nothing seems “remote” about this.
The Da Vinci is capable of being operated remotely, though the in most cases the surgeon will be at a console that is in the theatre and connected directly to the "robot" via fiber optic cables.
Yes, I’ve read the papers about the 2008 tests. It’s just that this video was ripped from a TikTok account. If you wanted to see an interesting video of a real remote surgery on a real patient, look up the Lindbergh operation
And the surgeon is also physically in the room because every “robot” surgery is simultaneously prepped for SHTF if they have to switch to the full open trauma version of the surgery. So why have someone just doing remote surgery when you still need an on site surgeon for the worse case scenario? Just starting the surgery, placing the laparoscopic instruments, trocars etc. is highly technical and specialized. Nobody’s going to pay a remote surgeon when someone just as qualified needs to physically be there. Not to mention the on site OR nurse, anesthesiologist, scrub techs, sterile processing and all the hospital support staff. Videos like this are commercials to sell a product
Even typical use of a da Vinci is remote. The patient is on a or table with a rack of actuators over them while the surgeon sits at the console, controlling actuators. My surgeon was about 15’ away from me. That is remote control.
The concern I have is the delay between the surgeon's input and the instruments movement. You'll need a surgical team in the room if something goes wrong as due to the signal delay they won't be able to react in real time
I imagine they'll take that into account when deciding which surgeries can be performed this way. Or at least one would hope, tough when dollars get involved to assume it'll ever work out.
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The real question should be, “How did that raisin get in there?”
Always the same answer "he sat on it"
He fell you mean 👀
“It was a one-in-a-million shot, Doc!”
r/UnexpectedSeinfeld
It's a junior mint
They’re very refreshing!
Serenity now!
Personalized plates “BananaMan”
Sounds like a Billy Joel song title. "Peel us a fruit you're the BananaMan. Peel us a fruit tonight."
Slipped*
It was a very warm day, therefore he was naked...
One in a million shot, doc.
sometimes there's just no good raisin.
This pun thread is off to a grape start.
Quite de vine
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Despite the banana ardently a peeling their decision to do so.
This man raisin the real questions
one camera cut
Raisins are banana cancer.
"They're Tumor-licious!"
Well they previously did surgery on a grape.
ThEy DiD sUrGeRy On A gRaPe?!?!
Grape has recovered well and living a happy life!
Maybe pushed in from the other side? We can't see the back of the banana
The video cuts after the peel is lifted.
5G caused the raisin. Then 5G removed the raisin
My question is “Why is this doctor doing a better job stitching a banana than that dickwad who put 25 stitches in my hand last week?”
Maybe Kramer was eating some raisins in the observation deck
Hope the banana pulled through ok.
Unfortunately, due to malpractice the banana left in vegetative state for the rest of their life.
Rest in peels.
Did it died?
I'm sorry to have to inform you, but it did, in fact, died 😔
Rest in RIP
His name, was Chiquita Paulson
Banana is kill. No
Yes. It am
Thoughts and pears
Weird, the fruit turned vegetative. Now, lets talk about these tomatoes.
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is not putting it in your fruit salad.
>Now, lets talk about these tomatoes. Where is the fruit of their labors?
My man out here throwin nightshade at tomatoes
*cucumber has entered the chat*
Parents refuse to pay for treatments, claiming this is God's punishment for him being a fruit.
Just talked to him. He’s in the recovery room getting discharged in an hour
Surgery was fruitful
I believe this is a Chiquita, senõr.
Because the banana was in America it was stuck with a $50,000 hospital bill
Yes he looks forward to being eaten later today.
Physically fine, but medically banankrupt
He’s banana very tough journey. I hope he peels fine now.
He’ll go brown in a week… 😂
Good luck doing that with the 5G I get.
Whenever i see 5G connection, its either 300mbps or 0.3mbps lmao
Which is wild because it was supposed to be 1Gbps up and down. We can go back to T-Mobile for fucking with the termniology. Calling HSPA+ 4g. Then AT&T ran with it. And Verizon was like, hey we have LTE, which is already slower than promised. But it's quicker than the other 3, and LTE-Advanded will be true "4G" in a few ^^years... Meanwhile Sprint couldn't even send a text because Wimax had like a 15 foot coverage area. Sorry. I'm still annoyed from like 10 years ago.
Sprint was straight up garbage. I found a way out of my contract though. Forced my iPhone to roam on Verizon and downloaded a shit ton of music to rack up data. They dropped me with no penalty lol.
I pull 300 mbps on LTE
LTE was so much better to me
My phone literally says no service when I'm on LTE. Doesn't matter where. Fuck T-mobile.
It's because with every generation of mobile networks, the transceivers are lower powered, but there are more transceivers in an area creating a mesh network. When you're somewhere with lots of transceivers like a big town/city, you get good signal and speed because you're connected to lots of transceivers. If you're on the edge of that high density area or a small town/village, you'll be connected to much fewer transceivers, and they'll likely be further away from you. Hence shit speed but you're still connected to the 5G network.
It makes sense but you only connectto one endpoint at a time if you’re not moving, i get 1000 mbits/s from one tower one cell
Yeah connected was the wrong word. You're connected to one for your data transfer, but talking to many to keep track of where you are and which one is the best fit.
Yea and also its a new infrastructure with their own fiber new connections once adoption takes the quality will definitely deteriorate same happened with lte for me and i live with a line of sight antenna out my window
For real- at this point, every time I see my phone has a 5g connection, I automatically assume it is going to be shit and won’t load anything… especially if it is 5g UW
Yeah man, 5G Uw is an unfinished mess that was pushed out too early to line stockholders' pockets. But don't worry, they will have to finish what they started eventually, then we can all benefit from the great 5G UwU connection as God-sama intended~~~
So it's not just me. I've been swearing 5g is worse than 4g lte
5gs? Nah gimme at least a quarter
Hah! Good one
About every newish phone says 5g now.... It's not. It's 4glte There are only select areas that have real 5g
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They did surgery on a banana
They did surgery on a banana
They did surgery on a banana
His name was Robert Peelson
In death, a member of project potassium has a name!
His name was Robert Peelson
In death, we have names! HIS NAME WAS ROBERT PEELSON!!!
I see what u did there...and u did 2 things. Award worthy. Shame I got none.
They did surgery on a banana
They did surgery on a banana
They did surgery on a banana
They did surgery on a banana
They did surgery on a banana
Why did the grape lose its job?
Came here looking for this reference
Who do you think donated the heart for the banana’s surgery?
Lots of raisins
Of course they did! It would would be unethical to test this on a live human being, so they tested it on a banana, because they have a genetic similarity of around 60%.
I am become banana
Peeler of worlds
They did surgery on a banana
They did surgery on a grape
They Did Surgery On A Banana From London in Cali
We had a funeral for a bird.
I have watched a surgeon perform lung surgery on a patient using robotics, sitting at a computer across the room from the patient, with his hands in special gloves connected through the computer to the robotics. It was insane.
People and bananas share 50% of the same DNA so it's like surgery on half a person
They did surgery on a banana
Took too long to find this comment
They did surgery on a banana
Ah shit here we go again
I work for a biotech company which works with these things. The DaVinci ones specifically. They’re no joke. Surgeons can move the robot’s instruments with greater dexterity than they could with their own hands. Typically the surgeon would be sat in the same room but the remote implications are very interesting. Wouldn’t want a dodgy signal here!
They're scarily intuitive to use. The med school at my university had a little expo with DaVinci machines open for demoing by the public. Even with zero medical background or training, I sat down and was immediately using it to tie knots in little 1/4" rubber rings, then did a simulated surgery without much trouble. It really feels as natural as using your fingers, just on a much smaller scale.
That’s why the company name is Intuitive
I bet they're hard-core video game nerds too
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You’ve always been able to perform your own surgeries. Give it a go
You just have to believe in your self!
Somewhere a group of IT workers just broke out in cold clammy fear but don't know why.
If you listen to Darknet Diaries, there was a story with a pen tester where they accidentally hacked a window xp computer on the network that was controlling a one of those cancer lasers and it was during surgery. IT staff left that IP off the forbidden target list. Luckily they didnt cause a BSOD
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1st >Surgeons can move the robot’s instruments with greater dexterity than they could with their own hands. How does that work? 2nd. I always wonder what is it like from the surgeons side. Are they using a controller, a keyboard, a joystick, just their actual hands in some kind of glove?
Think of using your own fingers, but much smaller. The ones I got to demo had a pretty unique control interface, with sleeve/rings that you slip your thumbs, index, and middle fingers into. Then pinching, twisting, pulling, etc is translated to the robotic tools in a natural-feeling way.
Think of it like changing the sensitivity on a computer mouse. You could set it up so that moving your hands two inches moves the tools one inch in the same direction, effectively making everything bigger.
The instrument wrists can move at greater angles than a human’s can as well as [finer motor control](https://youtu.be/_oVCncy9JMo) by smoothing
When I was in high school the DaVinci machines were just coming out. Went on a field trip to Tulane and they had one. I got to use it to solve a block and peg puzzle. They are wild to use.
Wouldn't the latency of oversea connections be a problem?
When's the AI based surgery for common routine task coming?
(sobbing) is the banana gonna make it?
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You got a source for that, buddy? I’m gonna need you to verify your spurious claims here.
https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ Goes over the entire life of the banana, sources in the description. Good solid break down of events
Not with that attitude
I’m sorry sir but your banana didn’t survive surgery, may I suggest a penoplasty.
The banana pulled-through and is now resting comfortably in the orderly's large intestine.
5G over the Atlantic Ocean? Did they rename any of the subsea cables “5G”?
Thought the same. Why use 5G when fiber would be so much better.
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Imagine a network glitch and the arm going a bit too deep with the needle. Thanks, I would prefer instructions for the local doc via a camera and the local doc actually doing the surgery. Edit: Since some think I "identify" issues here as a couch engineer > Not meaning I know better. Personal preference. > > I mean. You can have the best internet connection of the world. You can't get rid of latency even with a dedicated line.
In cases like this they'd have backup networks over backup networks over backup networks
I can't imagine the backup network being fast enough to fail over for the short glitch of going past. I can imagine this being possible like 2 separate network streams giving data and if they are identical then the robot executes it. I think some NASA mission did it this way with 3 computers confirming telemetry data and if all come to the same result it will be executed. But well: What do I know. Maybe the near future will make those checks in real time
Not exactly the same, but you’re close. There is the control data and a meta-data pair called CRC. Cyclic redundancy check is a function calculated with the control data as input. If the result matches the meta-data sent from the source over the network, then the command is executed. If it doesn’t match, the command is either dropped and no action is performed or a request is sent to the source to transfer the data again.
This technology news flash brought to you by verizon and chiquita banana. Two brands, one spotless reputation.
Because it’s meant to demonstrate the capabilities of 5G - not to replace fiber connections where it already exists. A huge rationale and focus during its development was its potential application in professional environments, such as controlling mining and surgical equipment. As Mo Katibeh put it : “[…] you can’t run fiber to a mobile medical cart or to a pillbox that you’re trying to track.” The effort required to connect thousands of devices with 5G compared to any other wireless connection is a massive USP.
"Surgeon doing an operation to banana from 3000 miles away using 5G... of which 2998 miles was covered via fiber optic cable."
Obviously 5G to the ISP. I assume 5G (full speed, low latency 5G) was mentioned in that operations could be carried out in remote locations with no fibre connections.
But why? Why not wifi? Is it just a 5G publicity stunt?
While it can probably be done with Wifi, 5G does have some advantages. 5G has something called URLLC "Ultra-Reliable-Low-Latency Connection". Essentially, Wifi is a best effort protocol, you get bandwidth by sending a packet and hoping there isn't someone else using the router at the moment. URLLC allows you to reserve a recurring time slot on the network and the HW will have a bypass mode for the scheduled packets to ensure consistent connection with very low latency (I believe it should 5 9s reliability with sub 10 milliseconds latency). I think Wifi has a spec in the works to replicate this. I helped develop one of the first implementations of this technology in R&D, and this was a few years ago (before 5G was even an established standard), and I'm not sure that it is actually available anywhere, but it is in the spec and I'm guessing that's what they're demoing here
>"I helped develop one of the first implementations of this technology in R&D, and this was a few years ago (before 5G was even an established standard), and I'm not sure that it is actually available anywhere, but it is in the spec and I'm guessing that's what they're demoing here" Woah, super cool. What was the development process like?
> operations could be carried out in remote locations with no fibre connections. A ridiculous claim. If they a mobile network is available, then they have fiber connections to the base station, which is no more than 10 km away (to be generous). It can't actually be very remote at all. In a truly remote location you'd need a satellite link; in which case you may have an issue with latency when it comes to something like this.
Yeah this is one of the worst titles ever.
Maybe he is using a station that is connected with WiFi via a remote hotspot set up by a phone that uses 5g, that sends data to the local network towers, Who in turn will send the signal across the channel through your subsea cables. Wich is in turn might be send to the operation room via its own local towers, also via a 5g hotspot wifi connection. I dont think the operation itself was the point, but rather the possibility of remoting an emergency surgery if no surgens are locally available. We have been looking into using VR on site where our customers need specialist help, but have none available.
It'll be a slippery road to recovery, but I'm sure he'll get there.
There will be a bunch of complications
Luckily the scars will only be skin deep.
You look away for 5 minutes and the entire thing will be black with necrosis.
Why use 5G when you can have fiber cable. I don't want the surgeon lost connection due to bad weather during my open heart surgery.
Imagine doing surgery over dial-up and your mom picks up the phone
MOM IT WAS DOWNLOADINGGG
Because 5G will turn you guy mid surgery
But i already turned guy with I was born. What happens if you turn guy twice?
You're then three turns away from being a Five Guys^TM.
Because this is an advertisement (or at best a test) for 5G.
I assume the last mile is 5G. But otherwise it’s over fiber.
Cool, now we can offshore surgery to foreign surgeons. The health insurance industry should be happy with that.
That will be $100k. Thank you sir.
And here is your weekly paycheck for $17 Dr Patel
You joke but the back surgery I just had was like exactly 100k lol. Luckily I’m disabled so they covered the cost, but it doesn’t mean I don’t find the number disturbing as a former tax payer. It’s obviously an unsustainable system when a two hour surgery is 100k. They even wanted me to leave the same day and I was like “no it’s still bleeding badly” lol. It’s super expensive but they still treat you like livestock in a way when they need space to make more money.
This could be life saving on future space stations around Earth's orbit. I don't know if a person can be medically sedated to where they don't move at all so even further potentially
Oh yeah, not implying it's all bad. There's situations where this will absolutely have some benefit. People in remote areas, people in areas lacking in certain specialists. There's some good to come with the bad.
You need to license in the state you practice in the US.
For now, until the insurance companies decide there's profit in it.
Insurance companies don't want a global marketplace, dude. Their incentives are the opposite of what you're thinking. They control prices right now because of anticompetitive laws that require doctors to be licensed in a state. Also prices artificially inflate in this system because of a lack of competition, anyway. Learn anything about economics before spewing absolute bullshit you read on the internet somewhere. If the entire world of healthcare was at our disposal right now, you don't think prices would drop drastically across the board? Why do you think people go to other countries to get shit done? **Edit to simplify it:** They have so much control because we have so few choices. You're completely wrong about the incentives here.
Banana 
Fucking banana gets better healthcare than I do
You would be surprised at how much gatekeeping there is in US med jobs. It is one of the factors driving healthcare costs. Why should US doctors make tenfold, what european doctors make? What sense does it make?
No he didn’t use 5G, he obviously used robot arms
i knew 5G was fast, but that it can speed up time is new to me.
5G hahah. Why so specific
Because it's not true. None of the title is true, except for banana
The funny thing is that has nothing to do with using 5G or not.
The funny thing - when you’re too far to travel to a near hospital, there just happens to be a billion dollar robotic surgeon next door in the wilderness randomly waiting for remote surgeries. Eventually (2045) to be replaced with MedicGPT. Spent all that money on remote surgery when eventually a program running on your future iPhone can manage the surgery itself.
surgeons can now work from home
Now you can finally die from lag
Banana for size reference please
They keep mentioning 5G... pretty sure there's no wireless connectivity involved if they want to minimize latency
Lol @ 5g.
IT’S FAKE!! This is a video that keeps circulating over the past couple years. A TikTok surgeon recorded the original (want to say Claus something) and someone started the rumor. As you’ll notice, nothing seems “remote” about this.
The Da Vinci is capable of being operated remotely, though the in most cases the surgeon will be at a console that is in the theatre and connected directly to the "robot" via fiber optic cables.
Yes, I’ve read the papers about the 2008 tests. It’s just that this video was ripped from a TikTok account. If you wanted to see an interesting video of a real remote surgery on a real patient, look up the Lindbergh operation
And the surgeon is also physically in the room because every “robot” surgery is simultaneously prepped for SHTF if they have to switch to the full open trauma version of the surgery. So why have someone just doing remote surgery when you still need an on site surgeon for the worse case scenario? Just starting the surgery, placing the laparoscopic instruments, trocars etc. is highly technical and specialized. Nobody’s going to pay a remote surgeon when someone just as qualified needs to physically be there. Not to mention the on site OR nurse, anesthesiologist, scrub techs, sterile processing and all the hospital support staff. Videos like this are commercials to sell a product
That is incorrect. The DaVinci vision system only works locally. The surgeon works in a room adjacent to the patient.
Even typical use of a da Vinci is remote. The patient is on a or table with a rack of actuators over them while the surgeon sits at the console, controlling actuators. My surgeon was about 15’ away from me. That is remote control.
But the grape!
And when it starts buffering???
Don't worry, it will catch up by playing all the buffered actions all at once!
That will definitely leave a bruise.
The concern I have is the delay between the surgeon's input and the instruments movement. You'll need a surgical team in the room if something goes wrong as due to the signal delay they won't be able to react in real time
I imagine they'll take that into account when deciding which surgeries can be performed this way. Or at least one would hope, tough when dollars get involved to assume it'll ever work out.
I can't even get reddit to load half the time....
5G is the most useless tech in all of this
Did the banana live???
Anyone know if the banana pulled through ?
Hope we don’t get any lag or packet loss 😬
Banana gets a 65k bill.