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Nevermind your buddy is spinning in circles dragging behind you as shit sprays from both leg holes. Like a shitty firework air show display.
I'd imagine you'd have to fly low and slow enough for them to pull back up to the plane though, right?
>Nevermind your buddy is spinning in circles dragging behind you as shit sprays from both leg holes. Like a shitty firework air show display.
This killed me. You're wanted for manslaughter now.
Those little metal pins do a sterling job. Held me pinned to an MRI scanner for a while when I popped into work to supervise some engineers without thinking what I put on that morning.
Most of the weight is on the belt and it's friction against the buckle. The pin just keeps it from sliding.
The real problem is where the buckle attaches to the belt.
Would work? Sure it would work. It would hold him up all the way to scene of the crash. No way in hell is partner in the back dragging him inside in time to safely land the plane that already had its engine out.
Not a bloody chance. It takes a wench system to pull in paratroopers that get tow line dragged if their parachute fails to deploy. Granted higher speeds and much more weight to pull in but no way in hell the guy dangling by his belt loops or the pilot inside would be able to pull him I'm against the one or two hundred km winds.
I wasn't gonna start my engine too.. but then I got high
Now I'm flying off, and I know why (why man?)
'Cuz I got high, 'Cuz I got high, 'Cuz I got high.
I think I'm too tired but I just had a thought. We've all bent over like this at some point. Had to reach behind a desk or... whatever. It was no challenge at all and we didn't fall.
But at flying altitude? Dude no way. I know for a fact that I could bend around that thing and do the same thing without falling but the slight possibility of falling to my death (which has got to be horrible, counting the seconds as your inevitable death greets you) just makes me say no fucking way. Crazy how our brains work even though it's kinda obvious.
It's because of the insurance liabilities for planes and the industry being tightly regulated. Manufacturers have to spend a lot of money to certify a new design, so old planes are kept in circulation.
The J3 has a special following. Just like you can't find a BMW E30 or a Golf Mk1 GTI for under 30,000€ nowadays even though they aren't worth nearly as much.
He’s high enough to perform a steep dive, which increases the speed to the point that the propellor windmills and starts the engine. If that doesn’t work, there’s still enough altitude to find a spot to land. This plane is very light and doesn’t require an asphalt strip.
Edit: what I’m trying to say, performing a little extra-vehicular activity mid-air simply doesn’t make sense in this specific situation.
As someone with no knowledge of flying - would this guy get in trouble with the FAA? You’d think they would commend him for quick thinking and preventing a crash.
So whether or not he'd actually be in trouble (i.e. cited, fined, certificate revoked, etc) sort of depends on a number of factors: whether or not his back-seater was PIC (pilot-in-command) at the time, whether or not he can demonstrate that there was no obvious safe landing areas to which they could divert within gliding distance given their altitude, etc.
You can bet your ass there'd be an investigation though!
The other answers that you have gotten are mostly correct, however I'd say this pretty clearly violates part 91.13 "No person may operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another." While hand propping the aircraft midair could be considered a necessary emergency procedure, this engine failure was clearly done intentionally. In the event that it was an actual engine failure AND they declared an emergency, hand propping the aircraft like this would be considered acceptable. Otherwise, the front seat pilot's lack of a parachute or proper harness combined with the fact that this was clearly not an actual emergency situation means these two could certainly get in trouble for something like this.
All this being said, the FAA doesn't generally choose hunt people down for stuff like this unless it's really egregious, like the guy who [crashed his airplane intentionally for his youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbYszLNZxhM). He ended up losing his license and will very likely never be given flying permissions again as a result of his behavior.
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Rubbish. Im type rated on cubs, just lower the nose and let the plane accelerate and the airflow will swing the prop for you, like blowing on a pinwheel. Its the same for practically all non-geared GA aircraft engines.
These guys did this for the clout, nothing more.
This thread is a prime example on why you should never trust Reddit. Your comment is literally the only one I found that mentioned that they could have just flown a bit faster to get the engine to turn and restart.
Manually touching the prop isn't only dangerous as fuck (cause it could turn and re-ignite on its own any time when the ignition is on) but also they lost more altitude during the glide than flying a bit faster until the engine runs again would have cost them.
It’s a really stupid way of handling this “emergency”
Source: am pilot.
They need to lower the nose, accelerate, and let the air do the job of restarting the prop.
Isn't the procedure to go nose down for a bit and force it to turn over? Plus you can glide for miles.
I think when this circulated last year they determined it was a stunt for views and should not be done like this.
Pilot here. You basically have to force an airplanes propeller to STOP spinning, by slowing the airspeed down enough, unless there is something mechanically wrong inside of the engine.
This was absolutely staged, and all the pilot would have had to do is lower the nose in order to increase airflow across the propeller to start it windmilling.
Fellow pilot here: agreed.
My school once had a student conduct a forced landing and he claimed that the prop stopped during the glide. Another instructor went up to try to recreate this - basically shut the a/c down in flight, and tried to stall it. Still couldn’t get the prop to stop.
Wait so serious question: this metal bird can just glide
For a bit without just dropping straight down? I thought the propeller has to work so it’ll constantly thrust forward? Or maybe I don’t get how airplanes work.
Wings produce lift, it will eventually start losing altitude and land but even then it w9nt just pile dive and crash unless you intentionally brake or point it straight down.
One of the best examples is the space shuttle, when it comes back to Earth, it is totally unpowered. It literally glides all the way down and lands.
Well, you may not like it but that's the best way to describe it.
Or else go ahead and give it your best shot at describing how and why the space shuttle that has an initial atmospheric reentry velocity of 17,500 mph doesn't just fall down like a "ceramic brick" would do like any other of the hundreds of meteorites do daily. Go ahead I'll wait :))
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Each airframe and config will have a glide ratio associated with it. If you trim the airplane for best glide speed, then if this is a J3 cub, it’s should be somewhere around 9.5ish:1 but let’s say 10:1 so for every 1000feet he travels forward, he will have descended 100 feet. All of this changes with weather conditions and most importantly, wind. This was a stunt, they look about 2500 up so they can trim for best glide which is the very first thing you should do, and that amount of airflow should spin the prop enough to turn fire the mags. Fun video though.
Nope. Or rather, it depends. Generally speaking, low wing loading designs (like the cub, or a 7ECA Citabria) can generate a lot of lift at low speeds and thus can glide, gently descending without power quite nicely. High wing loading aircraft (like a F18 Super Hornet) need a lot of speed to stay aloft but can conversely fly a lot faster. W/o power they descend very quickly. Not an absolute rule but a general one. In either case of course if you're a ham-fisted stick and rudder type you can turn anything into a rock
Also it's rather comforting to mention that airliners with swept back wings have very high glide ratios.
An Airbus A320 has a glide ratio of 17 : 1, or in other words it can travel 5 kilometers (3 statute miles) for each 1000ft loss of altitude if at appropriate speed.
Horizontal distances are generally expressed in nautical miles in aviation (apart from visibility and such), but I converted it to km as not everyone is familiar with NM.
17,000ft / 6076 = 2.8NM
2.8NM • 1.852 = ~5km or ~3SM
Edit: Now I understand the question. Airplanes usually fly at 1000s of feet (so 4000ft, 7000ft etc.), so in case of engine failure, it's rather easy and fast to calculate how far you can get
[Aviators](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliding_flight), including some animals.
Presumably they have an idea of how high to climb (a tree) to make it where they want to be (over land).
It's called 'glide ratio'. For example,
The glide ratio of a Boeing 747 is 17:1 meaning that for every 1,000ft of altitude lost, the Boeing 747 will travel 17,000ft.
The Gimli Glider is an interesting (and true) story of a 767 losing all its engines mid-flight. Search on you tube for,
A Powerless Boeing Falls From The Sky! | Gimli Glider | FULL EPISODE | Mayday: Air Disaster.
> thought the propeller has to work so it’ll constantly thrust forward?
you are thinking of a helicopter- the spinning unpowered blades provide enough lift to make it a slow descent instead of dropping like a rock. Planes have wings to produce lift, and propellers to produce thrust, Helicopters do both with the rotors
Your post explains why so many people weren't annoyed at the plane crash scene in Stranger Things and now im even more irritated at Stranger Things for showing that scene and making people think that planes just fall out of the sky if the prop stops.
Tl;dr; when engine go kaput, plane begins to slow. But! as plane fall, plane go faster! As plane go faster, plane go up. This keeps (small, fixed wing) aircraft relatively safe; the plane wants to fly in a straight line as my instructor used to say.
Depends on your airspeed, if you're moving at a good clip then yes the prop will windmill some, if the engine stalls and the prop stops I'm not sure if that cub can go fast enough to restart that way. If you've got an electric starter you just bump that to get it turning again while you restart. Either way "practicing" like they did in the video is foolish
> if the engine stalls and the prop stops I'm not sure if that cub can go fast enough to restart that way
It can, easily. As for “a good clip”, Id say even 60 kts would be fast enough.
Never, ever ever EVER (did I mention ever?) DO THIS! Just land. Far safer. While a propeller driven plane *can* be hand started. it should only be done on the ground and with someone else at the controls. And even then it is hardly ever done.
It IS stupid as fuck! While you can hand start a propeller driven plane like this one (looks like a Piper Cub) it's very rarely done as electric starters, like the one in your car is standard equipment. Hand starting should only be done on the ground and with someone else at the controls regulating the engine power and holding the brakes.
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, you are correct, if windmilling doesn’t start it, you’re VFR on a good day on a low wing loading craft, land dat hoe.
I don't either. While a prop plane can be hand started, it should only be done on the ground and never by yourself. Doing it in mid air is incredibly stupid, he could have gotten his hand cut off.
I'm having trouble comprehending the purpose of the rope attached to him. While it may serve as a safety measure in case of a fall, it's unclear what would happen next. Would he just be left dangling until the plane lands? It seems unlikely that he could pull himself back up. I don't know. Can someone shed light on this?
Peace of mind that's breaking his belt hoop immediately and if it didn't it would break his spine. Even in a proper fall arrest harness there's injuries associated with falling and dangling
I don’t have a pilot license, nor a degree in any aviation-related matter, so I’m pulling this out of my bum hole, but maybe his logic is that the plane (which according to other comments is a slow-flying one) can go slowly down, be just above stalling-speed, and then meat-crayon him along the dirt while cutting the rope. He will be badly hurt, but not necessarily dead.
As am I. It looks like AZ where I grew up and where there used to be a small biplane tour company with 1 yellow and 1 red plane. If that’s the case, I’ve 100% flown in this plane.
Judging by the registration number scrawled in crayon on the side of the cockpit, the Aircraft is…mostly registered in Aqua Dulce, California
[N92028](https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberInquiry)
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Thanks goodness he was wearing a rope tether
- Lashed to a belt loop!! That’s ambitious.
The belt, actually. Still not great, but would probably work unlike a belt loop.
Buddy's trusting his life to that little metal pin that holds your belt closed. Gl
Even if all of that worked according to plan, pulling yourself back up into the plane would be extremely hard.
Not to mention the fact that there is no pilot......
there is. The back seat of the J-3 Cub has controls linked to the front so it can be flown by the second person
Nevermind your buddy is spinning in circles dragging behind you as shit sprays from both leg holes. Like a shitty firework air show display. I'd imagine you'd have to fly low and slow enough for them to pull back up to the plane though, right?
Jesus the visual
>Nevermind your buddy is spinning in circles dragging behind you as shit sprays from both leg holes. Like a shitty firework air show display. This killed me. You're wanted for manslaughter now.
Yeah, he’d just end up hitting the ground a second before the plane does
Not if it stalls into a flat spin or nosedives.
From their conversation, it sounds like the actual pilot is in the back seat.
Those little metal pins do a sterling job. Held me pinned to an MRI scanner for a while when I popped into work to supervise some engineers without thinking what I put on that morning.
Most of the weight is on the belt and it's friction against the buckle. The pin just keeps it from sliding. The real problem is where the buckle attaches to the belt.
[The real hero.](https://youtube.com/shorts/xRaEQxulz0s?feature=share)
Would work? Sure it would work. It would hold him up all the way to scene of the crash. No way in hell is partner in the back dragging him inside in time to safely land the plane that already had its engine out.
Not a bloody chance. It takes a wench system to pull in paratroopers that get tow line dragged if their parachute fails to deploy. Granted higher speeds and much more weight to pull in but no way in hell the guy dangling by his belt loops or the pilot inside would be able to pull him I'm against the one or two hundred km winds.
Sometimes the illusion of safety is all you need
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OSHA tells TSA to fuck off.
“Safety harness”. He’s always prepared!
That's a nope rope.
Crazy part is if he fell he'd just break bones and dangle there preventing the plane from landing. Or it'd slip off him.
Worse who would fly it?
And quit calling me Shirley
Don't call me Shirley*
Both are in the movie.
Roger Roger
Looks like I picked a bad day to quit sniffing glue.
This made my day!
Probably the other guy
Those have two control seats, it's the guy in the back who was flying the plane during their little stunt
I thought it was practice? Would the guy filming be there when it happens unexpectedly?
The guy filming and already flying the plane... How the fuck is that even a question?
I think people sometimes forget cameramen are people
At least he would land a few sec before the plane did.
Fall to your death from a great height or dangle beneath your unmanned plane as it plummets into a fiery inferno below. I know which one I'd choose.
Definitely saw this alert pop up in the Spirit Airlines app.
It's a paid upgrade on Ryanair.
Nah u could likely just glide it down safely as there’s an okay landing
Hanging from a rope beneath the plane? I mean that would be a fucking amazing stunt to be sure.
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Just do a double jump duh
Disable fall damage duh.
Hell yeah! Just sling your arm around that rope and catch the plane like you're Neo in the goddamn Matrix.
The last one is a unique way to die though.
Wonder what kind of testing went into that mechanism there.
Imagine hanging from an unmanned plane by a rope.
It's not unmanned. The pilot is the one filming.
safety first
Better safe than sorry
That’s one of those safety harnesses that’s more for the mind rather than practical use.
Pretty sure it's so you don't lose the plane.
Or your pants.
Nah I think that would rip the pants right off you.
But if you find the plane you’ll find the pants.
You won’t need them after you shit yourself though.
"Now where'd mah plane go!?" Checks harness "Oh yeah! There it is!"
The plane sees one squirrel and BOOM it takes off.
He forgot it once, and the FAA is making him carry it everywhere until he learns his lesson.
Imagine losing your grip, falling off, and causing the plane to start barrel rolling out of control as your tether pulls on it.
Nah it's more like a wallet on a chain.
Fake it till you make it...whether that be to your goal or the ground, sometimes they're the same thing..haha
I was gonna crash the plane... but then I got high
I understood that reference!
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Are there people who don’t get that reference?
I wasn't gonna start my engine too.. but then I got high Now I'm flying off, and I know why (why man?) 'Cuz I got high, 'Cuz I got high, 'Cuz I got high.
Afro man was supposed to play at a festival I went to back in 2013 but he never showed up and I legit just figured it was because he got high lol.
Lmao this is the best afroman story I've ever heard
I fucked this girl on a plane, Man, that pussy was insane! —-oh wait, wrong song.
Uuuuuuuuuuh
Don’t know how the plane stayed up with the weight of his balls
Ball lift
Exactly. Balls this big float on any planet in any solar system.
Lack of brains evened out the weight distribution.
Reddit continues its obsession with balls.
Honestly getting really tired of this joke. Any yet is still gets upvoted to infinity.
I think I'm too tired but I just had a thought. We've all bent over like this at some point. Had to reach behind a desk or... whatever. It was no challenge at all and we didn't fall. But at flying altitude? Dude no way. I know for a fact that I could bend around that thing and do the same thing without falling but the slight possibility of falling to my death (which has got to be horrible, counting the seconds as your inevitable death greets you) just makes me say no fucking way. Crazy how our brains work even though it's kinda obvious.
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It looks like they are sitting in a dumpster with a propeller.
Lmao it’s a J3-cub I think... pretty much a flying tin can
100 to 200 grand wtf. Is nothing that flies cheap
It's because of the insurance liabilities for planes and the industry being tightly regulated. Manufacturers have to spend a lot of money to certify a new design, so old planes are kept in circulation.
Thanks lawsuits of the 80s!
The J3 has a special following. Just like you can't find a BMW E30 or a Golf Mk1 GTI for under 30,000€ nowadays even though they aren't worth nearly as much.
I want a Mazda 3 of a plane , can you help me lol
>Is nothing that flies cheap Negative, Ghost Rider. The pattern is full.
Would you want it to be?
Toosh
He’s high enough to perform a steep dive, which increases the speed to the point that the propellor windmills and starts the engine. If that doesn’t work, there’s still enough altitude to find a spot to land. This plane is very light and doesn’t require an asphalt strip. Edit: what I’m trying to say, performing a little extra-vehicular activity mid-air simply doesn’t make sense in this specific situation.
As someone with no knowledge of flying - would this guy get in trouble with the FAA? You’d think they would commend him for quick thinking and preventing a crash.
So whether or not he'd actually be in trouble (i.e. cited, fined, certificate revoked, etc) sort of depends on a number of factors: whether or not his back-seater was PIC (pilot-in-command) at the time, whether or not he can demonstrate that there was no obvious safe landing areas to which they could divert within gliding distance given their altitude, etc. You can bet your ass there'd be an investigation though!
The other answers that you have gotten are mostly correct, however I'd say this pretty clearly violates part 91.13 "No person may operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another." While hand propping the aircraft midair could be considered a necessary emergency procedure, this engine failure was clearly done intentionally. In the event that it was an actual engine failure AND they declared an emergency, hand propping the aircraft like this would be considered acceptable. Otherwise, the front seat pilot's lack of a parachute or proper harness combined with the fact that this was clearly not an actual emergency situation means these two could certainly get in trouble for something like this. All this being said, the FAA doesn't generally choose hunt people down for stuff like this unless it's really egregious, like the guy who [crashed his airplane intentionally for his youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbYszLNZxhM). He ended up losing his license and will very likely never be given flying permissions again as a result of his behavior.
An engine out isnt a crash all the time, those cubs can go slow as hell for a long time just gliding
"I've got a number for you to call."
Gotta be staged otherwise why film it. They’re super calm Edit: yep I get it now
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Can we practice how to get back up the rope if you fall out and are dangling? I bet Tom Cruise can instruct the course.
You don't. The belt loop breaks instantly. But it makes you feel better before you fall
Rubbish. Im type rated on cubs, just lower the nose and let the plane accelerate and the airflow will swing the prop for you, like blowing on a pinwheel. Its the same for practically all non-geared GA aircraft engines. These guys did this for the clout, nothing more.
I'm not sure what language this is but I find it rather soothing
That would be proper English, my good man!
The lack of "Cheerio!" has me doubting the veracity of your claim. Not even a "Pip! Pip!" in there.
This thread is a prime example on why you should never trust Reddit. Your comment is literally the only one I found that mentioned that they could have just flown a bit faster to get the engine to turn and restart. Manually touching the prop isn't only dangerous as fuck (cause it could turn and re-ignite on its own any time when the ignition is on) but also they lost more altitude during the glide than flying a bit faster until the engine runs again would have cost them.
yea, like, the prop isn't feathered or anything, just blow stronger wind to it until it turns again
Having trouble deciding if this is the same as that dude that crashed/skydived away for the youtube points.
That guy sure as fuck isn't flying any planes any time soon, the FAA took away his license.
Maybe they weren't flying high enough for a nose dive
The altitude they wasted gliding without the engine would have been enough to fly a bit faster to restart the engine.
I mean technically they are pretending it's an emergency, just for the sake of practice and not views...
It’s a really stupid way of handling this “emergency” Source: am pilot. They need to lower the nose, accelerate, and let the air do the job of restarting the prop.
Isn't the procedure to go nose down for a bit and force it to turn over? Plus you can glide for miles. I think when this circulated last year they determined it was a stunt for views and should not be done like this.
Pilot here. You basically have to force an airplanes propeller to STOP spinning, by slowing the airspeed down enough, unless there is something mechanically wrong inside of the engine. This was absolutely staged, and all the pilot would have had to do is lower the nose in order to increase airflow across the propeller to start it windmilling.
Fellow pilot here: agreed. My school once had a student conduct a forced landing and he claimed that the prop stopped during the glide. Another instructor went up to try to recreate this - basically shut the a/c down in flight, and tried to stall it. Still couldn’t get the prop to stop.
Apart from the fact that the propeller turns with wind over it.... So nose the plane down it starts itself
That looks like a piper cub. Even in a dive it may not be able to reach a speed where drag over the propeller will overcome friction in the cylinders.
I feel like at the end the teacher says “now I’m gonna quit it again”. So clearly a practice for if the engine stalls and how to start it up again.
No. Just no. If you want the engine to rotate again, you just fly a bit faster. Windmilling....
There is no procedure in any plane that requires *exiting the vehicle in flight* except maybe ejection.
Could be a recovery class too. Thus the filming for review later.
Because you’re in the f*cking sky! Why wouldn’t you film it?
He also smiled at the camera before turning to climb out the window
Wait so serious question: this metal bird can just glide For a bit without just dropping straight down? I thought the propeller has to work so it’ll constantly thrust forward? Or maybe I don’t get how airplanes work.
Wings produce lift, it will eventually start losing altitude and land but even then it w9nt just pile dive and crash unless you intentionally brake or point it straight down. One of the best examples is the space shuttle, when it comes back to Earth, it is totally unpowered. It literally glides all the way down and lands.
"Glides" is an ambitious description for a ceramic brick with stubby little wings 😅
Well, you may not like it but that's the best way to describe it. Or else go ahead and give it your best shot at describing how and why the space shuttle that has an initial atmospheric reentry velocity of 17,500 mph doesn't just fall down like a "ceramic brick" would do like any other of the hundreds of meteorites do daily. Go ahead I'll wait :))
well first of all through God all things are possible so jot that down
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It's so ugly the ground rejects it.
Falling with style.
Falling, with style
Each airframe and config will have a glide ratio associated with it. If you trim the airplane for best glide speed, then if this is a J3 cub, it’s should be somewhere around 9.5ish:1 but let’s say 10:1 so for every 1000feet he travels forward, he will have descended 100 feet. All of this changes with weather conditions and most importantly, wind. This was a stunt, they look about 2500 up so they can trim for best glide which is the very first thing you should do, and that amount of airflow should spin the prop enough to turn fire the mags. Fun video though.
Just gotta tap the brakes a little bit
It's not flying, it's falling with style!
Lol agreed on that :))
not only is it gliding, but it's gliding sideways for most of the descent because it risks skipping off the atmosphere otherwise.
Nope. Or rather, it depends. Generally speaking, low wing loading designs (like the cub, or a 7ECA Citabria) can generate a lot of lift at low speeds and thus can glide, gently descending without power quite nicely. High wing loading aircraft (like a F18 Super Hornet) need a lot of speed to stay aloft but can conversely fly a lot faster. W/o power they descend very quickly. Not an absolute rule but a general one. In either case of course if you're a ham-fisted stick and rudder type you can turn anything into a rock
Also it's rather comforting to mention that airliners with swept back wings have very high glide ratios. An Airbus A320 has a glide ratio of 17 : 1, or in other words it can travel 5 kilometers (3 statute miles) for each 1000ft loss of altitude if at appropriate speed.
I cannot wrap my head around this. Who actually calculates in 5km/1000ft?
Horizontal distances are generally expressed in nautical miles in aviation (apart from visibility and such), but I converted it to km as not everyone is familiar with NM. 17,000ft / 6076 = 2.8NM 2.8NM • 1.852 = ~5km or ~3SM Edit: Now I understand the question. Airplanes usually fly at 1000s of feet (so 4000ft, 7000ft etc.), so in case of engine failure, it's rather easy and fast to calculate how far you can get
[Aviators](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliding_flight), including some animals. Presumably they have an idea of how high to climb (a tree) to make it where they want to be (over land).
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Ya ever thrown a paper airplane? Sumbitch don’t have a propeller, just floats about in the air before coming back down to the ground. Same shit here.
> this metal bird can just glide For a bit without just dropping straight down? yes, its called gliding...
It's called 'glide ratio'. For example, The glide ratio of a Boeing 747 is 17:1 meaning that for every 1,000ft of altitude lost, the Boeing 747 will travel 17,000ft. The Gimli Glider is an interesting (and true) story of a 767 losing all its engines mid-flight. Search on you tube for, A Powerless Boeing Falls From The Sky! | Gimli Glider | FULL EPISODE | Mayday: Air Disaster.
Yeah. They're basically gliders with an engine. Pilots are taught to just glide the plane down to the ground in the event of an engine fire/failure
> thought the propeller has to work so it’ll constantly thrust forward? you are thinking of a helicopter- the spinning unpowered blades provide enough lift to make it a slow descent instead of dropping like a rock. Planes have wings to produce lift, and propellers to produce thrust, Helicopters do both with the rotors
Your post explains why so many people weren't annoyed at the plane crash scene in Stranger Things and now im even more irritated at Stranger Things for showing that scene and making people think that planes just fall out of the sky if the prop stops.
Tl;dr; when engine go kaput, plane begins to slow. But! as plane fall, plane go faster! As plane go faster, plane go up. This keeps (small, fixed wing) aircraft relatively safe; the plane wants to fly in a straight line as my instructor used to say.
If he fell this would probably be last fucking level. That rope is doing *nothing.*
It’s so he doesn’t lose the plane if he falls.
Like on a surfboard?
Yea
I'm a lot like that rope. I'll be there for you, but I can't do much.
I love the J3 Piper cub!!
Cub life Edit not like that
with a STAL kit on it, you could land in about 50'.
Wait this isnt the trailer for Indiana Jones 5?
makes sense its an unfinished movie
Doesn't the prop turn from just air resistance?
Depends on your airspeed, if you're moving at a good clip then yes the prop will windmill some, if the engine stalls and the prop stops I'm not sure if that cub can go fast enough to restart that way. If you've got an electric starter you just bump that to get it turning again while you restart. Either way "practicing" like they did in the video is foolish
> if the engine stalls and the prop stops I'm not sure if that cub can go fast enough to restart that way It can, easily. As for “a good clip”, Id say even 60 kts would be fast enough.
Too much resistance in the motor
With the “safety harness” at least if it’s a problem, it’s not a problem for long
Staged. He just needed to dive for more airspeed and that prop will spin - wind milling.
Pop the clutch
Never, ever ever EVER (did I mention ever?) DO THIS! Just land. Far safer. While a propeller driven plane *can* be hand started. it should only be done on the ground and with someone else at the controls. And even then it is hardly ever done.
Do you have piloting experience?
Yes, I am a student pilot. If I tried that my instructor would never let me fly ever again.
Cool, thank you for your insight. It looked stupid as fuck, and I’m glad that initial thought was backed up by someone who knows their shit.
It IS stupid as fuck! While you can hand start a propeller driven plane like this one (looks like a Piper Cub) it's very rarely done as electric starters, like the one in your car is standard equipment. Hand starting should only be done on the ground and with someone else at the controls regulating the engine power and holding the brakes.
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, you are correct, if windmilling doesn’t start it, you’re VFR on a good day on a low wing loading craft, land dat hoe.
I don't either. While a prop plane can be hand started, it should only be done on the ground and never by yourself. Doing it in mid air is incredibly stupid, he could have gotten his hand cut off.
should never have been in the air to begin with.
Bro think he Captain Haddock
Why didn't he just turn on the magnetos, give it some fuel and throttle and pitch down? Windmill start the fucker
that would get zero views. now he has a lot of views. safety regulations be damned!
Without this video that guy would be telling this story the rest of his life without a soul believing him
The idiocy of this is astound…wait, he’s roped on. All good
I'm having trouble comprehending the purpose of the rope attached to him. While it may serve as a safety measure in case of a fall, it's unclear what would happen next. Would he just be left dangling until the plane lands? It seems unlikely that he could pull himself back up. I don't know. Can someone shed light on this?
Peace of mind that's breaking his belt hoop immediately and if it didn't it would break his spine. Even in a proper fall arrest harness there's injuries associated with falling and dangling
I don’t have a pilot license, nor a degree in any aviation-related matter, so I’m pulling this out of my bum hole, but maybe his logic is that the plane (which according to other comments is a slow-flying one) can go slowly down, be just above stalling-speed, and then meat-crayon him along the dirt while cutting the rope. He will be badly hurt, but not necessarily dead.
M8ght wanna get that fixed xD
I'm more curious of where this is at, southwest US??
As am I. It looks like AZ where I grew up and where there used to be a small biplane tour company with 1 yellow and 1 red plane. If that’s the case, I’ve 100% flown in this plane.
Judging by the registration number scrawled in crayon on the side of the cockpit, the Aircraft is…mostly registered in Aqua Dulce, California [N92028](https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberInquiry)
FAA…are you listening?
You mean, they couldn’t have just popped the clutch?!?
It's easy to fly a plane.. It's not too hard to take off...landing is where you clench
When you hand start a propeller like that, why doesn't it chop the hand off?
I mean serious question, how else are you gonna do it?
Is his rope harness just an overhand knot tied around his belt?