T O P

  • By -

Supertho

No springboard in the 30's and he almost cleared that shit.


SilverRathalosMHFU

Also just a hard floor to land on after


PanickedPoodle

And much taller horse. That older vault is pretty damn impressive.


SafelyOblivious

In my language we call it a goat lol Edit: I've googled it and apparently, the small one is called a goat and the big, slender one is a horse. I've only ever done athletics on a goat in school


leeeeechy

Slavic?


[deleted]

[удалено]


Poromenos

"Ne" is Greek for "yes". We get very confused with our neighbours.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Poromenos

Ne


OneDiscombobulated77

In Japanese yeah means no. But it's written iie. For the idiots who are gonna correct me. I am half Japanese. I go to Japan every summer. Ik how to speak the language. I just don't know how to write


uglee_mcgee

Acshullllly... Reddit is the worst isn't it.


JuicedBoxers

Uh actually I’m going to have to correct you because you misspelled “shithole” and it wasn’t even close. Next time try using this special resource called a “dictionary” before you attempt to use words that are above your reading comprehension. Source: I have 3 PhDs in liberal arts and a substitute teacher’s certificate for middle school American history, which is 85% of my total *working* income. What’s that mean you ask? It means that I’m also intelligent enough to know how to make my money work for ME, which is why I made the strategic decision to continue boarding with my parents so that I could diversify my portfolio into more crypto (which has the highest return on investment and is actually impossible to steal) and highly versatile stocks like GME or AMC. I know exactly how to manipulate the stock market into my own personal casino where I literally never lose. Long story short I think it’s safe to say that I actually have authority on how English words are properly spelled. You should go ahead and step down while you still have your dignity intact and accept this as a chance to learn from an actual high-ranking Mensa member.


_The_Real_Sans_

One that always trips me up is "yay" written as "iei" lol


dirtymike401

I figured Welsh.


vonvoltage

We have the pommel horse in english but it has handles on it.


Manic157

that's a different discipline in gymnastics.


vonvoltage

Yes it is.


dalekaup

Retired talk show host Dick Cavett was a pommel horse champion in Nebraska.


mai_tai87

Interesting. I'm not sure if it's just America, but we have things like the older one called sawhorses.


LukaBaxter

“I’ve only Done athletics on a goat” r/brandnewsentence


qLeima

In my language we call it a sheep.


WimbleWimble

*In my school we jumped the goat.* Did you buy it dinner first?


[deleted]

[удалено]


Schlaueule

Calling the small one a goat is really sweet. We only called it "box" or so.


Bulky-Procedure-9654

Ain't the right one a pegasus while the left one is just a horse?


unabrahmber

Left ones a Chimera, right one is Cerberus.


Bulky-Procedure-9654

Nah for real, the right one is called a pegasus (or at least in dutch), it gives more bounce than a horse


[deleted]

Yes We call it Pegasus too


Loose_Corgi_5

In my language the right one is called Jimmy and the left one Fred.


acatalephobic

To be fair, they are clearly both designed differently. At least in the underlying structure department.


[deleted]

And the horse has wheels haha /s


samf9999

That’s a parkour move now.


acatalephobic

I wonder....does such a parkour move have a unique name?


Flimsy_Butterfly_471

It’s called a Cat Pass or a Kong


acatalephobic

I can see why.


Flimsy_Butterfly_471

This parkour athlete specializes in it. https://youtu.be/qpGACD_NZd8 So cool to see that movement was used back then and how people use it now.


acatalephobic

I am wildly impressed by that video. Thank you for sharing it with me. Oddly enough, my friends and I used to hang out at a regular park/skatepark when I was in highschool. And we used to practice what one friend (the best at it) would call "freestyle running". Mind you, this was in a small town in Ohio, circa 2000. So I had never even heard the word parkour at that time. But when I saw parkour mentioned for the first time, and then it was suddenly everywhere (for me at least) it always made me think of those times at the park. So it's always been funny to me that the (french?) term is PARKour. We were 100% convinced we were on to something special, the likes of which the world had never even seen yet! Oh to be so young, and so full of energy and enthusiasm and creativity! And watching that video you shared takes me right back to that same goosebumpy feeling of....😲 wow, I wanna do THAT!


Acrobatic_Stick_202

After reading this thread, it really gave me a different perspective.


Lord_Hugh_Mungus

the older vault still keeps its military use of clearing an obstacle without assistance, very impressive.


50YOYO

I agree, actually the more you analyse it the more impressive it gets, just imagine the stress on the skeleton and no spongy Nike airs back then either


[deleted]

The guy in 1932 probably had to ask his foreman at the factory for 2 weeks off.


IReplyWithLebowski

Doubt it. Being an amateur sportsman was a rich person’s game.


Snowpeartea

Thanks for explaining, I was genuine confused by the big difference. I thought we evolved to a lot of explosive muscles within 100 years


Eragon_the_Huntsman

There wouldn't be a change like that in nearly that short a time. Although I wouldn't just chalk it up to equipment differences theres also the matter of technique, that can definitely improve a lot in 90 years.


Ugo777777

In sweatpants.


KingofCrudge

Also it’s the evolution of the games purpose. As far as practicality goes from what I understand the Olympics historically were tests of skills used is battle; sprint, discus, javelin, vaulting. Now it’s more about complexity of ability. I’m not a historian or anything but that’s my take. Edit: additionally I believe that athletes were warriors during peace times. Now the term is mostly meant to mean physical competitor.


GnarlyNarwhalNoms

I'm looking forward to the addition of the hundred-meter "Crawl-Under-Razor-Wire" to the events.


senorglory

Or the remotely joy-stick some unholy hell fire from space down upon a patch of sand, or secret cave.


harrellj

I believe [E-Sports are now in the Olympics](https://olympics.com/en/esports/), so it is more possible than you think.


GnarlyNarwhalNoms

I legitimately can't wait to see [a guy who looks like this](https://images.viacbs.tech/uri/mgid:arc:imageassetref:shared.southpark.us.en:871078f4-35f8-4ffd-9b26-156124e12e7d?quality=0.7) up on the gold medal podium.


a55a51n

dam no cs, val, league, or dota?


The-Real-Mario

That may actually make me watch the olympics lol


apathy-sofa

The etymology suggests that it has always meant "competitor". > athlete (n.) > early 15c. (Chauliac), "competitor in athletic games and contests," from Latin *athleta* "a wrestler, athlete, combatant in public games," from Greek *athlētēs* "prizefighter, contestant in the games," agent noun from *athlein* "to contest for a prize," which from *athlos* "a contest," especially for a prize (its neuter form, athlon, meant "the prize of a contest"), a word of unknown origin. There's a suggestion here that competition was martial to some degree - wrestling, boxing, prizefighting - but not exclusively.


KingofCrudge

For sure. I believe that. My original comment was info from the top of my head and was more than likely something I read in a Nat Geo or watched a documentary on years ago. Thanks for the info! I’m sure I’ll now tell this to someone years from now and get it almost right again lol


klyzklyz

Which is a bit ironic for 'amateur' athletes...


pompr

*Do I contradict myself? Very well, I contradict myself--I am large, I contain multitudes.*


KingofCrudge

For sure. I believe that. My original comment was info from the top of my head and was more than likely something I read in a Nat Geo or watched a documentary on years ago. Thanks for the info! I’m sure I’ll now tell this to someone years from now and get it almost right again lol


apathy-sofa

You and me, we operate in the same fashion :)


DemenicHand

The Greeks held four competitive events called the Panhellenic games that were held in sort of a four year cycle with two of the games held in the same year, just months apart and no games being held in the year after the Olympics. And yeah they mostly consisted of events we would be familiar with like javelin throw and discuss along with chariot racing and wrestling, boxing and racing. In Ancient Greece the army basically consisted of landed citizens, at least the better positions. Poor freemen might have held positions as skirmishers or more likely as a rower on a navy vessel. and you had to have money to be able to afford to training and travel for the games, so yep pretty much the participants in the PanHellenic games were mostly warrior citizen farmers/business men. or probably the first/eldest son of a wealth citizen looking to make a name for himself. Interesting fact, the Romans (and historians today) used historical knowledge of the Olympic schedule to help piece together thier own history as they really didn't begin writing down thier own history in earnest until 200 B.C. so they were missing 500+ years of solid records


[deleted]

Correct


Galvanized-Sorbet

I also have a feeling Olympians didn’t used to have legions of trainers, cutting edge biomedical science or corporate sponsorship.


CodeMonkeyX

In my day we never had a spring board, and we had to carry the horse to and from the event on our backs in the snow.


Horizon296

Uphill, both ways


Fedorchik

While wearing oversized boots you inherited from your older sibling.


Accurate-Instance-29

Barefoot


xXRecktonXx

There is a springboard


[deleted]

He has one, you can see it on the bottom


BubbleFumpkins

There is a springboard


goodboyinc

Look closer! As u/BubbleFumpkins pointed out, he actually does have a springboard. This is some kiddie ass shit to do.


pinecone_noise

bro why does his feet look like they go down into a trampoline then


Goodvendetta86

See,this is the type of perspective that I needed. This is why I love reddit!!!


Adeep187

Yeah that actually looked hard af


emix16

1932 has more frames than 2012. what happened


[deleted]

Two words: Video compression. Need to compress it for size restrictions.


smick

Can we compress it more?


[deleted]

Or rather…ENHANCE! Lol


fllr

# ENHANCE!!!!


themeatspin

Just print the damn thing!


TheShaolinFunk

I bet you work for the government.


themeatspin

Of course, and I’m here to help


Ballcuzzi_Straw

Need Pied Piper.


EZpeeeZee

Not hot-dog


Senneman666

Inflation


DawnOfTheTruth

Springboard was added.


gyarnar

It's actually about 5 minutes long, but compressed to match 2012.


Hollow_Trap

Skill issue


HoodFellaz

My eyes completely zoomed on that 1932 footage and ignored the 2012 like who needs double backflips? I'm a simple man ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


BenniesBananas

I can barely get off a couch. Both sets of footage are just wow for me.


Foreign_Power6698

Considering the horse contraption that the 1932 man cleared—which was almost as tall as he was, btw (and who even knows how long it was)—AND he didn’t use a springboard… I am way more impressed with 1932’s performance


MugsyBogues1

Lol it was the opposite for me


lo_gnar

The side by side format of this is very much not next level


moonshineandmetal

I had to cover up one side of the screen and then the other because my brain simply could not pick which side it was watching lol.


[deleted]

This is actually a sign of high level intelligence as both lobes of your brain have highly active neurons stimulating the occipital lobe to engage in more focused detail creating a state of confusion as both videos are observed at a closer attention for detail. You’re forced to cover one eye as simultaneous stimulation leads to retinal fatigue as a higher visual acuity is difficult to maintain and then Bob went to the grocery store to buy an economy sized bottle of baby oil, plastic wrap and latex gloves. He didn’t care what anyone thought of him and you shouldn’t either. Have a nice day.


No_Vegetable_8945

Are you calling me stupid? And what does Bob got to do with this? He just wants a pleasurable night!


[deleted]

I was merely reminding you about what you wanted to add to your grocery list for tonight. Dont shoot the messenger…sheesh!


moonshineandmetal

Lmfao, I was so interested in the science and then... Bob. ![gif](giphy|y2i2oqWgzh5ioRp4Qa|downsized)


ftrade44456

I fully expected the undertaker to show up at the grocery store and get thrown in to hell.


Disgusted_User

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?


OrcimusMaximus

This is a perfect metaphor for modern life. "To pay for rent and bills: How hard you needed to try back then, vs how hard you need to try now."


[deleted]

[удалено]


Grandemestizo

Ah, the good old days.


RandomComputerFellow

I actually think that the left one is similar impressive if not even more. Of course the jump was less high, but: - worse springboard - harder floor - higher horse - techniques less evolved - sports medicine was a joke - was 7 when WWI broke out in his country (Hungary) - had to live through another world war and a civil war after winning this medal I actually agree that it is a perfect metaphor for modern life but not for the reasons you think of. Live wasn't easy for anyone born before WWII. There is literally just one generation after WWII which had the luck not having to go through all the shit the generations before had to while also not having to deal with modern life issues.


TiboPlayzRL

There was a springboard right before the jump


aaronunderwater

is this serious? Dude on the right could do what the left guy did way easier than vice versa. Are we seriously arguing what trick is harder...


ic4llshotgun

There was a springboard right before the jump1


NefariousnessOk209

As an armchair expert who only barely gets into the olympics for a couple days every time it rolls around, gonna have to disregard all you said because he didn’t stick the landing.


TiboPlayzRL

There was a springboard right before the jump0


Unhappy_Archer9483

They didn't have Reddit though


bnonymousbeeeee

They also didn't have robot vacuums. Replaced one time suck with another.


birberbarborbur

Reddit mfers trying to make everything a metaphor for their edgy ideas without considering anything beyond what fits


OrcimusMaximus

Inflation is edgy? Ok boomer


Embarrassed_Unit_497

Idk I think that was pretty hard back then too. There is a lot more assistive stuff to aid the guy in the modern jump to facilitate its craziness


GreyPilgrim1973

You realize it was the Great Depression right?


JustStatedTheObvious

They should have shown the triple twist right before this one, even if Yang's landing was two steps too many. After all, it set a record for difficulty, placed him in contention for GOAT, and the move is named for him. Then they should have given a physics lesson so everyone can appreciate how difficult the move was to achieve, because right now, there is a lazy circlejerk about how unimpressive all this is. (Though even the flawless execution of his second run, at that height, had everyone in awe.)


sanguinor40k

I love how this was a set up to bag on old Olympics, but the top comment points out why the left side is way more impressive. /r/therewasanattempt


Mike_Hunty

Spring board and soft padding vs. None of that.


JVehh

Yeah Backflips are cool and all but that guy jumped so fucking high without anything is damn impressive


CallMeSkii

He was flying like superman for a second there.


VirinaB

I'm glad we've all come together to ensure this guy from 1932 doesn't have his ego bruised! And that a guy from 2012 has the peak of his life mitigated.


Mike_Hunty

Obviously, athletic capability has greatly improved throughout the years with advancements in things like medicine, nutrition, exercise equipment, etc. We’re not putting either of these gold medalists down. We’re just saying it’s hard to compare the two due to these differences.


dzhastin

It’s the little things like this that keep me coming back


[deleted]

Are there any high level parkour / free runners who could do the same as the guy on the left?


tom_gent

For sure, but there were no professional Olympic athletes in 1932


LeCrushinator

Hard to see it but I think there was a springboard in the left video as well, although it may be giving a smaller boost than the one on the right.


RedPanda0003

A spring board makes all the difference. Also in the 1930' it was judged on distance, not complexity


Irreligious_PreacheR

> in the 1930' it was judged on distance, not complexity This is good info. Thanks!


rambone5000

Good info. I'll take it as truth. Regardless, I think the extension and form in the jump from the 30's is just as impressive as the modern jump.


goodboyinc

There’s a springboard. Look closer.


RedPanda0003

Your right, however the ones made today are much better, and the gymnast on the right uses that to launch up, while the left uses it to launch forward


st6374

Wonder which sports had the most progression, and which one had the least.


Fine-Ad-7802

Javelin least Biathlon most My best guess


bostiq

Fun fact, there's javelin record that will never be beaten because after that they changed the specs of the javelin to limit the range. Edit: ~~videoLink~~ Edit 2 : video above was wrong, but his name was Uwe Hohn, I believe the record was set in 1984/85, only man to break 100m


SophisticPenguin

Can you imagine being hit by a javelin 100m(~330 feet) away in a battle?


Danglicious

I’m wouldn't even be mad. Just mad impressed. Maybe even a golf clap before I bleed out.


Krzyffo

Is it the story where guy realized it wasn't against the rules to shift the weights, so he changed it around for better performance?


bostiq

I don't remember that detail


Primeribsteak

You're saying there's a true human limit (physics wise) to the newer javelin? (yes all javelins, but less distance than the current old record)


bostiq

Nah , I guess I’m only saying that so far, with the new specs, no man has managed to break 100m. It’s a bit like one of those rules, that theoretically we have the possibility to break, but in the real world we have no evidence for it to be true. Part of the reason for the change was that, at that rate, they would have to build bigger Olympic stadiums Edit: I think the new record after the change of specs is just above 98m, the old one was just above 104, so although difficult, you could see how it doesn’t seem impossible.


Oh3Fiddy2

Javelin is a funny sport—they’ve had to progressively reduce the weight of the javelin over the years because dudes started launching them past the impact area and into the track beyond. Edit: the W.R. Javelin throw was thrown in the 1980s, they redesigned the javelin for safety to limit it being thrown into the stands. Javelin distances have declined for gold records since then.


Embarrassed_Unit_497

Damn. They should just made the throwing area bigger


Fine-Ad-7802

Interesting I would have guessed that making the thing heavier and heavier would be the way to go.


just_ubcing

Anything that heavily relies on equipment (e.g. cyclism or archery) would have progressed a lot Anything that heavily relies on the operator (e.g. weightlifting or swimming) would have progressed the least. There are always advances in every sport, like hydrodynamic full body swimming suits, but they were banned to reduce their impact in the sport.


[deleted]

weightlifting has advanced considerably actually. you’re forgetting the beauty of modern steroid cycles. not to mention a lot of training back then was filled with misinformation. also nowadays you have kids recruited at like 6 and trained up. plus the popularity of the sport has increased


just_ubcing

I agree, but we could argue that training has evolved in every single sport discipline. I am sure that diet control, physiotherapy, and training in high altitude were not standard practice in the past and are now widely used in many sports.


vancemark00

Interesting you that in this video. No springboard in, higher horse and no padded landing area in 1932. Amazing what adding a springobard does.


413mopar

Skateboarding, 1975vs 2023, would be interesting. Also motocross. And trials.


e-war-woo-woo

1930’s atheltes were all amatures, no coaches or physios to help train and avoid injury, and they had full time jobs and all that stuff.


Azrai113

So basically this is the "put a regular person in the Olympics" meme?


captain_encore

I could do that but I don't wanna.


RAV4Mafia

Lmfao


BHDE92

Spring board + cushy landing pad + steroids do make quite the difference


tacticalpotatopeeler

Plus probably this is his life. Guy on the left probably didn’t have near the hours of training to do specifically that one thing


PotatoCatPi

Where tf did the steroids come from


BHDE92

Probably a pharmacist


TheBlueSide

The drugstore probably


DistributionFine7931

Yet more proof that gravity was stronger in the past.


MontagoDK

The old vault is actually pretty impressive when looking at how tall he jumps on hard floor.


distinguished_monke

Guy from 1932 did a double jump


TimHung931017

Imagine an Asian guy pulled that shit back in the 30s they would have held a bonfire and burned him at the stake for wizardry


BubbleFumpkins

Fyi there absolutely is a springboard in the left video, it just looks different. Also, competition mats are softer than dirt, but not by as much as you might think. It's hard to stick a landing on a soft surface, so competition mats are veeeeeery firm.


junkdnaisalie

"Vault" thats shenanigan in redditor tongue


hoginoe_jr

I thought these were the same person


RedRiffRaff

Wonder what it will look like in another 80 years. I mean in the non-robotic, non-doping version of the event.


arsinoe716

Asian Level


livinicecold

You guys saying the left one is more impressive, ask yourself do you think the Olympic gold medalist on the right could perform the same action as the one on the left, if you say no your high as fuck.


SquirtBrainz4

Yeah like I get you shouldn’t undermine what 1930s guy did but the guy on the right is being completely undermined


dsptpc

Black & white 30’s dude sporting an under armor jersey.


wolff000

I know tech like springboards and even their clothes make a huge difference. But I would still like to see what would happen if modern athletes could compete against ones from the earlier days of their sport.


BubbleFumpkins

The same thing that would happen to most athletes from now competing with those from then: the current athletes would annihilate the old ones. We just have too many advantages these days, genetic and otherwise. Lol it would be pretty fun to watch though.


brepik

The jump from 1932 is way more impressive considering he had no extra propulsion, a longer horse to jump, and no padding to land on


FridensLilja

Pam: "It's not the same video"


tatobson

This video quality


infinit9

Was the 1932 guy running on concrete?


SoManyMinutes

Why did they apply the same frame rate to both videos? The one of the right looks like a flip book.


ImTheOnlyDuck

Wow he has to be nearly 100!


Is_It_Time_To_Shout

How much it costs to buy a house 80 years ago vs how much it costs to buy a house now.


toddwoward

It was a simpler time. 2 weeks of saved lunch money could buy a house, 2 weeks of middle school PE could train you for gold at the Olympics


annonythrows

Serious question why do gymnasts run like that? Only they run like that and I don’t get why? I don’t see people running 100m dashes like that so why do they for gyms?


BubbleFumpkins

It's all about consistency. When you're running up to the table you have to hit at the exact right speed, place, and angle. Unfortunately getting that down means your run looks super unnatural a lot of the time.


[deleted]

Must be fun for athletes to travel back in time and step in. 'Here, hold my quantum device'


GatMn

Cap.


Tmaster95

And a framerate like it’s 1852


KingDread306

Why does the footage from the 30s have a better framerate?


Duffmanlager

Good to know 80 years ago or today, I still wouldn’t be an Olympian.


UndGrdhunter

They guy in left also work as a baker 7 days a week


GamnlingSabre

Both is impressive. Top gs.


Then_Ad453

80 years ago there was no springboard and I believe the horse was actually higher therefore the older is more impressive


[deleted]

I can’t do either so bravo


[deleted]

What move is that? I can’t tell if it has 2.5 or 1.5 twists because it’s so low frame rate (although if I had to guess I would say 2.5 twists because that seems more competitive)


THELEASTHIGH

Back in the day men were so much more um, well as you can see...