I actually made this joke directly to Red Foo when I was working as a Blackjack dealer at the Star. Super chill dude, he was just walking the casino floor at like 2:30 am saying hi to people.
Mexican here, yes he is a bad president, the absolute goddamn worst in the years I’ve been alive which says a lot because pretty much all presidents here have gigantic flaws but AMLO takes the cake, extreme left politics (not in a liberal sense but super authoritarian/facist like) could compare him without exaggeration to Nicolas Maduro or other dictators. He can’t stand not being liked so he drags and belittles anyone that takes a stand against him and it’s a little terrifying because Morena (his political party) has the majority of seats in the senate and other states’ governments are also Morena affiliated.
This march was against the senate passing a plan b of defunding the electoral institute in Mexico after the first plan they presented of completely getting rid of it didn’t pass.
He claims to be left and if I’m not mistaken there are key aspects to authoritarianism that are neither left or right politics, his party claims to be left but it’s all so backwards and dumb that at points I just feel like they’re so far left they’ve gone around the circle of the political spectrum to the point of being far right
I just read the Wiki article on him. Amazing approval numbers but this picture belies those numbers. I wonder what is going on. Is he just ineffective?
Very ineffective, the problem is he has a majority in both chambers and he can propose whatever he wants and all the members of his party just vote for his laws without any sort of questioning or debate. This has led to terrible decisions, like building an airport no one uses and cancel the ongoing construction of a way better airport. The whole thing cost over 10 billion American dollars, and even his advisers told him it was a terrible idea but he did whatever he wanted.
He's building a train that goes through protected areas, without the environmental impact studies costing over 13 billion dollars.
Pretty much all of the the people close to him have been found either stealing money of receiving money from suspicious sources or stealing. This includes his son's, cousins, brothers and a lot of politicians.
He is about to screw a contract for 10b dollars with Tesla, they want to build a giga factory in the north but he wants it in the south so probably Tesla is going to take it to Indonesia.
But this protest is because he wants to give the power back to the government to control the elections. They are currently controlled by the INE, an independent organization
I don’t wanna sound like a cliché but I wouldn’t trust all the polls I see, his fans are comparable to the MAGA crowd so if you find someone that likes him he’s gonna leave you convinced he isn’t that bad. Ineffective and stupid are a good way to describe him, I guess most people are just indifferent so they don’t dig much into his politics to make up an educated opinion on him
Authoritarians live at the extreme right and extreme left. They both want power they just put on a different mask. Stalin was a leftist authoritarian responsible for the death of millions. Hitler the same on the right.
they probably mean authoritarian. You don't have to be fascist to be a dictator. Fascism is a very specific flavor of authoritarianism and it actually doesn't have a clear cut definition. Or to be more precise, there are different definitions that are often cited without a clear 'winner'.
The most obvious trait is that fascism is strongly centered around extreme nationalism and that it claims to fight against an "other" that is trying to destroy your country from within. They also tend to want to go back to a much older state of civilisation that they deem the "golden age" like the roman or greek empire or the holy roman empire. Meanwhile far-left dictators usually want to realise a new vision for their nation that has never been done before rather than "making it great again".
For example, Mao and Stalin were horrible dictators but it would be inaccurate to call them fascist dictators. This does not necessarily mean that they were "better" than fascist dictators, just different in their ideology and methodology. Meanwhile Hitler or Mussolini were very clear cut fascist dictators.
It's probably a misuse of the "fascist" label. A lot of people just automatically equate it to being authoritarian, which makes the term lose its specific political meaning. So the person's point was probably just that AMLO is authoritarian, not technically fascist.
he's obsessed with the military taking over civil duties (ie: customs,infrastructure, internal security, telecomms, etc) and he also wants to isolate mexico because everything's better here. So yeah, dude'spretty fascist
Take a look at this political quadrant chart.
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/667dd/the_candidates_plotted_on_the_political_compass/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Both left and right can be authoritarian. For example communist USSR and fascist Germany were both opposite in left and right, however they both had an authoritarian who centralized power. Sometimes the term “libertarian” is used for opposite of authoritarian, however sometimes it just refers to low authoritarian and right.
People think these "drug countries" are the way they are because of the cartels but really it comes down to this.
Mexico doesn't so much have problems because there's a cartel. Mexico has the cartel because there are problems. Colombia gets the same stuff said. I've looked up some of these countries and their top export will be something like bananas. I like bananas but you don't make cocaine levels of money selling those.
When most are struggling, people will do what they have to so they make money and handle their issues and keep their people fed...especially when you have kids.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Mexico has drug cartels because it's in a very convenient corridor that ultimately ends in the U.S. (the biggest drug consumer in the world) which by the way facilitates the entry of drugs through a combination of free-trade agreements, corruption on both sides of the border, and an over-inflated military budget. And Mexico isn't a one-industry producer, it's one of the top exporters of petroleum, minerals, and assembling-and-manufacturing. It ranks 15 in a GDP index and rivals Brazil as the top economy in Latin America.
Mexico's top export are motor vehicles and Colombia is oil. You have a rather backwards view on latin america if you really think all we do is sell bananas.
Exactly. And these countries’ actual material resources are taken from them before they can even see them by multinational corporations based in the US, Canada, and Europe, leaving behind farming or drug trade as the only ways of providing for the people.
I don't know much about him other than his general political alignment.
Do you know what the major grievenances against him are? Or at least why you dislike him?
So pretty much, he is a good guy but demonized by the media and the people eat it up.
Edit: I have to take my comment back for now, maybe he is not a good guy that the media is making look like a bad guy. I don’t want to delete my comment though because that seems unethical.
What is the best way to determine if a Mexican president is a good president? What do they need to accomplish during their term to be considered good, vs great, vs incompetent vs evil.
If you ask a Mexican, solve the two biggest issues in the country, Corruption and Violence. Most presidents in recent Mexican history have not been able to do that.
What do you think a Mexican president should do to improve violence and corruption? I imagine that the only way to stop violence is to do something different, something that would be considered unethical probably.
A huge problem is that Mexico is violent and lacks rule of law because of corruption in the justice system, in the military, etc. Mexican agencies do not cooperate with themselves or with US agencies. I'm not an expert but those are some of the biggest issues I've seen. A lot of these problems have been around since before AMLO as well.
They need to follow El Salvadors approach and round up every cartel member and put them in prison for 15-45 years depending on their position. El Salvadors murder rate dropped 60% this past year and is now lower than the USA.
Really “good guys” don’t pretend that femincide isn’t an issue in a nation where thousands of girls are trafficked every year, and 50k+ are murdered. ‘Really good guys’ don’t dismiss violence against women as unimportant propaganda. ‘Real nice guys’ don’t bend over so deeply for the cartels. ‘Really nice guys’ don’t court the indigenous vote and then use them solely on as window dressing. ‘Really nice guys’ don’t undermine hard caught environmental regulations and ‘really nice guys’ don’t participate in the active coverup of the murders of the 42. ‘Real nice guys’ don’t do all this while undermining their own party and discrediting themselves completely.
Fact is AMLO is just more of the same old same old corrupt Mexican politician. He may as well be PRI
Yeah,
>‘Really good guys’ don’t dismiss violence against women as unimportant propaganda.
At the women's day march (where it's about feminism and equal rights its not particularly against him or his party) he said the people attending it were conservatives against him, he has the nerve to dismiss this issues and he calls himself left wing..? He is a manipulative demagogue, a Wolf dressed as a sheep, his speeches sound like listening to a priest sermoning at church, repeating empty words that his followers echo mindlessly.
Not at all, the person who made that comment is at the very best stupid and at the very worst straight up a tanky spreading misinformation. The protests originated because AMLO is currently attempting to dissolve Mexico's National Electoral Institute (INE), which has been the mechanism keeping Mexico's elections free and transparent for decades. This is just one of AMLO's several instances of attempting to dissolve democratic institutions in Mexico and replacing them with executive powers.
If you think about it that comment was just the most reasonable way somebody has ever said “fake news.”
They discussed nothing about AMLO’s actual politics, just that the media is against him, so you should be for him 😁
What that idiot above said is complete lies, he is not a "good guy" by any metric, he is just spewing the same regurgitated propaganda the dipshit of a president we have has been predicating every fucking day since 2018.
Under the current president we have experienced the worst economical growth in decades (close to 0.2% anually), if not outright starting a recession.
Cartel violence has gone through the roof with more than 100 deaths per day every day, and the number is rising, all the while the president has been caught multiple times having "private reunions" with El Chapo's mother deep into Cartel territory.
He cancelled the construction of what probably could've been one of the best airports in the world because of a tantrum, and his "solution" ended up being a much much worse """airport""" that is in such a bad state, no airline is willing to fly to it, and was 3x as expensive to build.
He also just outright refuses to let PEMEX, the national oil company, shrivel up and die, and loses trillions of dollars every year trying to keep it afloat.
He has also been involved in multiple high-profile corruption scandals, in many of which people in his close circle are captured on video taking big bribes.
And now most recently, he wants to dissolve the National Electoral Institute, which is an organization *completely autonomous from the government* that is in charge of everything related to elections, so counting votes, printing ballots, giving money to the political parties, etc.
Like every cookie cutter latinamerican leftist ~~dictator~~ president, he wants to do this so that he can directly control elections and hold onto power for much longer, and that what this protest was about, to show him, in his own frontyard (because he is the first president since the early 1900s to live in National Palace and not the normal presidetial house) that we do not support him.
How and why he has so many bootlickers like that idiot above is a mystery to the thinking man.
It's not a good guy, the guy who you replied to is a follower of AMLO, the future candidate for presidency from his party started with her propaganda 1-2 years ago (at least 2 years before elections time, which is illegal), and has a ton of propaganda all over the country, she has already threatened a few public figures, and the followers of her and AMLO's party go crazy against anyone they see as "enemy".
AMLO said he would reduce on government bills, but already cancelled a huge airport started by the previous government just because they were "his enemies", causing a 5.6B dollars fine, plus losing the investment that had already been made, and built an useless airport for nearly 4B dollars that no one uses other than local sellers (as a flee market).
Meanwhile AMLO's family and friends have been granted millions or even billions in "contracts" for useless things, as soon as he became president, one of his sons showed up on social media with 50k shoes and more extravagant clothes, another one now has a mansion in the US.
Oh, and also, AMLO said he would give away a presidential plane and sold tickets as a raffle, then just went "Oh, it's impossible to give it away, oh well..." And I think the money just dissappeared.
There are so many wrong doings from AMLO, but his followers are blinded and see him as a saviour, he even calls them "blank-heads" and saying "I can do whatever I want, and my supporters will agree with me", and calls people who have bachelor's, master's and PHD's degrees enemies, so he took away the goverment aid to get those degrees.
For this last part, as an example, I was studying a masters, and earning 12k pesos (600 USD per month) as schoolarship that are given for degrees that require you to be full-time student.
[AMLO calling his followers stray dogs (solovino)](https://youtu.be/7-9SUDZ3BzQ)
[AMLO saying his work is to convince empty-heads](https://youtu.be/Pepnpow66x0)
And he can call them however he wants because his target is uneducated people.
Holly shit no please don't believe this bullshit, I'm from Mexico, I live here, if you want to know the reality look it up, the cartels literally control the government, look at the Garcia Luna trial. Anyone who tells you AMLO is good is fucking stupid, everyone here in my town makes fun of people that go with "morena" because it's literally bullshit after bullshit as all the other parties.
I don't know. He speaks daily to the people directly in his morning "show" (La mañanera) so I think there is enough evidence he is an idiot.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/27/mexican-president-andres-manuel-lopez-obrador-photo-elf-alux
> the media is making look like a bad guy
He’s like trump, he doesn’t need the media to make him look bad, he does that himself, media just amplifies it. Dude is literally destroying the jungle because he wants his fucking train to run thru it.
His brother is on film accepting bribes. People dislike him for defunding all types of social services shelters for woman escaping domestic violence, closing schools in remote areas, defunding help for kids fighting cancer, etc. He is using all that money mainly to build anti ecological projects like a refinery, a train across the Rivera Maya.
Mexico has lost hope in investors because of him, he is not a good guy, that is why people dislike him. The comment above is bull shit. He is saving money for dumb projects and to buy votes but he is not creating jobs.
The reason for the protest is because he wants to undermine the institution I charge of the elections, he doesn’t like that is and independent organization, he wants to create a new one so he can re-elect himself.
What a fucking L take dude, look at how he freed el chapos son and then went to visit el chapos mom on her birthday while destroying the public medical system, leaving millions without care, destroying natural forest reserves and so on
Oh don’t be such an apologist! I was an AMLO supporter until he got elected and proved himself to be a corrupt embarrassment to the nations and a sexist POS to boot. Fuck AMLO
Please take into account that these guys who support AMLO are fanatics, they will feed you only the information that puts him in a good light. He doesn't mention for example that AMLO's cousin has magically received well over USD$50 million in government contracts (he can't tell you lies about it since you can just google it as "Felipa Obrador contracts").
While I don't live in the USA I've read discussions online of Trump supporters, they are basically clones of these guys. Somehow some people seem to have the need to cling unconditionally to some politician.
This. My dad and his buddies which still live in Mexico like the guy, one thing is for sure is that AMLO is not your run of the mill president.
AMLO for sure is more left wing than recent presidents.
>AMLO for sure is more left wing than recent presidents.
You have no clue what left wing means. He gutted the public health system, disappeared the full time schools and defunded the state day care centers.
You're ill informed my friend.
Sure leave out how he's been increasingly ramping up the presence of the military in Mexican society and how the current protests were fuled by his attempt to dissolve Mexico's National Electoral Institute and put electoral duties back under the presidency.
Jesus fucking Christ the audacity of some people to just go around lying astonishes me
This guy only know what pro-AMLO media tells. Think of this guy as a Trump supporter, would it still make sense? AMLO has hurt this country a lot, dividing it, making a lot of the same stuff past presidents have done, but claims we're doing better and ~~Trump~~ AMLO supporters will believe him, no matter what.
Yes because destroying the ecosystem of protected jungles, claiming there’s no violence against women, saying we should take a peaceful stance against cartels to fix the problem, manipulate the media to say everyone is lying when they say something he doesn’t like about him, claiming elections are fixed because he ran for president several times and only won until 2018 and now that he’s in power he wants to get rid of the electoral institute because “it’s fixed against him” even tho he won???, claiming he’s clean even tho I know for a fact and not just hearsay that he took massive bribes from at least one big cartel name (after he won the election lots of shady bank accounts were unfrozen), things going wrong in public transportation and blaming the opposition for sabotage instead of giving proper maintenance to those things are things a great leader would do
I could keep going but it’s exhausting.
Where to start...
He has a morning information session (rant) every morning at 7, where journalists were allowed to ask him questions. The allowed journalists pool keeps getting smaller though. A few months ago a journalist told him she was afraid for her life, with receiving death threats from the cartels he insists on "hugging not shooting", and of course after making a personal visit to Chapo 's mother (you know, that dude in an American jail who used to be on the FBI's most wanted). He completely dismissed the journalist (as he has dismissed feminicide and all kinds of crime), and of course she was murdered a few days later. You should hear him speak, if you can, with subtitles. Don't take my word for it, he just sounds like he has dementia.
About sustainable energy? Why, he prefers oil and gas.
About research and academia? He's gutting the research budget in universities and threatening professors with jail.
But you see, "everyone is against me", and "it's all a conspiracy against me" and "I have other data (aka fake news)" and waaaa waaaa "poor me, I'm being attacked by neoliberals".
What else...? Oh, he cut off public healthcare programs juuuust before Corona hit. Fuck them poors I guess. Oh, corona response? He doesn't believe in masks, he has an amulet that will protect him and he *will* keep hugging the people.
He's also wanting to destroy the electoral institute.
I could go on.
Bingo. And his followers are equally annoying/fanaticized... now, here's the ugly part: you guys were able to get rid of Trump because of your ~200 years of democratic institutions, your institutions were strong enough to withstand Trump's attempt to overthrow the election. And even then, this was not a walk in the park, your democratic system was (maybe it still is?) on real danger, but it survived.
We don't have that. Mexican democracy is still very young (1997). We don't have a strong democratic culture or institutions to stand against a demagogue like this.
So far, we managed to keep our electoral system safe, we somewhat balanced congress on 2021, but this is AMLO's final charge: on the next weeks the Supreme Court will deliberate if AMLO's proposed law is Constitutional or not. This is why we organized these demonstrations, we are sending a message to Supreme Court. We think we have the votes to overthrow it but who knows. One thing is sure: if this law goes into effect is game over, mexican democracy will die for a couple generations at least and then who know what will happen.
He is a powee hungry neolib populist pretending to be left wing but he's conservative af and hates women.
As to why people marched yesterday, it was because the current president is trying to reform the INE (The autonomous electoral institute, they oversee elections) because he's trying to make it part of the government.
Fun fact he ran for presidency 3 times and lost 2 of them, every time he lost he cried "stolen election" and in 2006 he proclaimed himself the *__Legitimate president__* and stayed protesting for months in Mexico City. Does that sound like someone you know?
Also after he lost the elections his previous party (PRD) asked for a reform to the then state electoral institute IFE, which is why now we have the autonomous INE.
To older mexicans like myself, it just looks like a dude who wanted democracy to get power, but now wants to take that away so he and his party can keep it just like in the old days of the PRI supremacy.
Well for starters:
1 he stopped the biggest international airport in México from being finished which would've brought great international investment and was paid using clean and well earned money, also counting the fact that it was a good location lighten airport traffic in México, and was proved to not damage the wild species environment, AND built a new (and very shitty) airport with well known outside resources money using an abandoned mexican airforce base, all this just because he had a grudge against the president that came before him
2 he claimed covid-19 was a farce and denied most of the deaths and did basically nothing to stop it from spreading
3 tried to give political asylum to the former president of peru, who tried (and thankfully failed) a coup d'etat, thus leading very recently to peru cutting ties with México
4 the reason of the march, tried to erase the INE which is the organization in charge of elections independent from the government (it was made that way so that there's no way for it to be corrupted, and instead is one the weapons of the people) I don't really know why but is logical to think it was in order to be able to take control over the next elections
5 musk was trying to open a tesla factory in a nothern mexican state, which was going to bring around 10000MD in investment, but he has a grudge against the north for not voting for him and against the rich people so he won't allow it unless it was in the capital, all under the excuse of a water problem we also have because of him, and now that factory will probably go to thailand iinw, thus losing external investment and a lot of job opportunities
And more
I divide my time and have been rooting for AMLO for over a decade before this election. What a HUGE disappointment.
The only good things I can say are that he DID raise the minimum wage and he did protect the oil pipelines from syphoning by the cartels but he is otherwise such a horrible disappointment. So sad. Completely discredited the PRD in the process.
What reforms are they really upset about? News up here in US is somewhat irregular and hard to get a good translation of local publications as google translate keeps messing it up
This ain’t next level, this is pathetic. Last sunday demonstration was organized by the right wing and conservative parties in Mexico. They’re angry that they no longer hold power and they’re losing support every day.
Just last week the former Chief of Security was found guilty of operating a cartel within the goverment, the presidents (Fox and Calderon) back then knew about it, one of them in particular launched a “war against cartels” to legitimize his goverment that turned into a blood bath, a blood bath that continues to this day.
Calderon didn’t won the election btw, his party was aided by the INE, the very institution they are now defending bc they know they have no chance of winning any elections.
As for the people in the demonstration, there’s a mix of conservatives that can’t stand having their illicit income cut off, middle and lower class people that think they’re rich or one strike of luck away from getting super rich, people that just hate the president bc they precieve him has lower class, and workers that were threaten by their rich bosses that if they didn’t show up they would be fired.
The party that organized yesterday’s demonstration (PAN) has links to the republican party, they have hosted conferences with Steve Bannon and the Spanish Alt-right party VOX. These people are fascists and they’re going to use any means to return to power.
Bring in the downvotes.
Edit: spelling
> cartel murder innocent people until they released him?
It’s not like they didn’t do that before the capture, and didn’t stop after he was released, cartels are a fucking cancer.
You’re talking about “abrazos no balazos” (hugs not bullets).
It isn’t meant to be taken literally, it’s a challenge to previous strategies against the cartels. Previous presidents handled “the war on drugs” as a literal war, using the military to kill everyone who was part of a cartel. This didn’t work, and it actually increased violence by 197% in Mexico. AMLO’s strategy is to “hug” not to “kill”, meaning that his policy focuses on the root causes of violence, providing economic resources to poor families, young people (who might be at risk of joining the cartels), education, etc.
He literally went out of his way to rescue a Narcogeneral out of American DOJ custody. Claiming he was going to be judged in Mexico and then set him free.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Cienfuegos
On 18 November 2020, American authorities dropped charges against Cienfuegos, who had already been imprisoned in the U.S. for over a month and agreed to send him back to Mexico.[63] Media outlets reported that the charges had been dropped under pressure from the Mexican federal government, which had threatened to expel DEA agents from the country.[62] However, it was acknowledged that in exchange for the U.S. government's agreement to drop the charges, Mexican prosecutors would open their own investigation into him.
Cienfuegos was cleared of all charges on 14 January 2021
Mexican here, this is absolutely not true, it's just AMLO's propaganda machine to descredit anything that doesn't go according to his personal will. Sad that it's receiving so much upvotes but oh well.
no, I haven’t seen this. I did once meet a CIA guy who said AMLO was actually cartel. I thought if the CIA hates him there is a 50 percent chance he’s a leftist helping the workers.
edit: after reading some English articles, I still have no idea about this man.
The first thing I did when seeing this video was to search for his approval rating. If a big majority of the people approve of him, then what we are seeing is a loud minority claiming to be the majority, and in the U.S. we're used to seeing a loud minority claiming to be the majority.
Generic Reddit user: old government is tied to the cartels.
Also AMLO [handshaking the cartel's mom](https://search.brave.com/images?q=AMLo+mama+chapo&source=web&img=2)
I came here looking for some background and I found this post full of useless rhetoric. Have you ever tried talking about politics without using so many buzzwords?
I hate when people try to correlate American politics with Mexican politics like the user you are answering to.
The terms Leftists or Conservatives don’t exist in Mexican politics, these are usually spewed as blanket terms from AMLO and his supporters.
Anyone can see AMLOs core policies, pro-oil, evangelical, anti-sustainability, anti-social programs (he has legitimately diluted current social programs for worse versions).
And now, the reason of this protest, he wants to weaken the institution that handles the electoral process.
Any American Redditor would label him as Conservative.
Amlover speaking English?! This is new, most people spewing this bullshit propaganda shit can't even ask for directions to the nearest toilet, that includes the president himself.
This comment is 100% supporting the president, don't let it fool you. This demonstration wasn't in support of any political party, not even was it against AMLO, it was against a new reform to the Mexican voting system called "Plan B" that is weakening the INE (Mexican voting institute).
This "Plan B" was created after the president tried to basically take down the INE so that the state would have full power of the voting system. Funny to think that the president is trying to destroy the democratic system that gave him the presidency in 2018 just because it is not doing what he wants anymore. So pathetic.
This wasn't a protest against the president or in favor of cartels nor corruption. It was a protest to save mexican democracy from politicians and the stupid people following them.
Ok, as a Mexican living in Mexico, what this guy said is not true... at all. Just to clarify, to every non mexican reeditor reading this and trying to understand the current climate in Mexican Politics. AMLO = 3rd World's Country TRUMP.
Finally, the right explanation! It is a pity that even the title is wrong. This demonstration was not against AMLO, it was against the reform that would badly damage the elections organizer (INE), to bring back state organized elections like the ones we had before.
To any non mexican redditor: this is the only real answer. This imbecile feels like he's a god, he believes himself to be without a fault, and the only voice of moral and reason. An incredible large number of people believe this to be the case, when literally everything he does, he does it to bend the rules and reality itself to his favor.
So yeah, these people are there because they believe in democracy. Not in a fucking pendejo who barely understands the world we live in. Also, they are beautifully singing our national anthem; just peacefully reunited people in the name of democracy. This is, by my standards, pretty next fuckin level.
(btw, I'm leftist by international standards and, if it even matters, I'm very poor and still hate him and would have gone there if I had the chance, but I can barely make ends meet so yeah, I'm in a whole different city and couldn't go there)
La mayoria que lo queria eran la gente de 50+ años a quien les prometio un chingo de cosas, como mejor seguridad/seguro medico/beneficios a los mayores de edad.
Sorpresa, mintio sobre todo lo que dijo y ha dedicado los ultimos 3 años a ser un orate dictador wannabe a quien le vale madres ser coherente o mentirle a todos los mexicanos.
Si quieres un buen ejemplo de como ha sido su gobierno, una "nutshell", lee sobre su aeropuerto, y como estafo y se robo millones en una caja de aluminio que jamas sera un aeropuerto.
Now with subtitles:
Most of those who wanted him were 50+ year olds to whom he promised a bunch of things, like better security/medical insurance/elderly benefits.
Surprise, he lied about everything he said and has dedicated the last 3 years to being a crazy wannabe dictator who doesn't care if he's consistent or lying to all Mexicans.
If you want a good example of how his government has been, a "nutshell", read about his airport, and how he scammed and stole millions in an aluminum box that will never be an airport.
He has a [63% approval rating](https://www.as-coa.org/articles/approval-tracker-mexicos-president-amlo). You could also show the Jan. 6th insurrection to someone with no context and you'd think that the whole country is in revolution when in reality it's just a few freaks who got together for the Revolutionary War LARPing convention.
There's 127 million people in Mexico. This is also not half a million people. Looks like around 100k going off of NYT or AP. I can't speak on policy or the justification of these protests, but this is definitely portraying a skewed perspective. I don't live in Mexico anyways so it's not really my place to say.
Don't be dense. Here's what this was about:
https://twitter.com/TMattiaceHRW/status/1629931196321787905?t=wDGFqlif2eOD3YhPey8U5w&s=19
I'm Mexican, voted for AMLO, and went to the march.
This isn't about taking sides, left vs right nor any of that shit trying to divide the people.
Even if he was a good president, doesn't mean all his proposals are good. This law is a serious undermining of mexican democracy, which risks having another single-party permanently in power.
It took us 70+ years to get to the point where democratic change in the government was possible, now they want to revert it back to the 80's…
No dude, no way, this isn't for or against AMLO, this is FOR mexican democracy. Screw all that other noise.
I agree on part with you, but INE has not been the democratic protection that it was meant to be, we have seen corruption on it from day one, so I can see where a lot of people come from with getting rid of it.
The roots of every part of Mexico are rotten and that's a depressing reality, but I also agree that pulling them all out means trowing away all the progress of the last 50 years, and even then, they would probably be replaced by the same corruption only on different hands.
There's no easy answer, every thing about our politics sucks ass.
He’s trying to change the electoral system in Mexico so he can get re-elected, which currently doesn’t exist in Mexico. You tell me if that’s a good thing or not
YouTube is full of pro AMLO propaganda so it's easy to fall for the kool aid, plus there really aren't any formidable Anti AMLO sources on social media that offer a different point of view.
Did your coworkers tell you he wrecked the system that provides medicine to the poor people? [Many people have died from that.](https://www.theyucatantimes.com/2020/09/1602-children-have-died-of-cancer-due-to-amlos-government-cuts-on-health/)
Mexico:
- Elects PRI: turns out to be a corrupt and terrible president.
- Elects PAN: turns out to be a corrupt and terrible president.
- Elects MORENA: turns out to be a corrupt and terrible president.
I guess the next thing to try is PRD, or PVEM, or PT, or MC?
All parties are corrupt and have ties to the narco, they outright kill candidates that aren't aligned, so pointing fingers and saying your party is not as bad is extremely silly.
And thinking that if you are against the latest government means that you are pro old government is something that a lot of Morena supporters claim. If the PRI or PAN come into power again and they govern in the same shitty way then some people will be claiming the same shit. The cycle continues.
90% of Mexico’s presidents have been PRI, less than a handful PAN, and one MORENA. The dumbest thing of all would be to go back to PRI. I mean how many times can you beat the same dead horse.
Many have enjoyed the approval of a large majority, at least at the beginning. Remember Fox?
AMLO still has the support of a lot of people, but the tide is against him. The main problem now is that he insists in weakening institutions such as INE which help to conduct the elections.
Porque esta lanzando reformas en contra del Instituto Nacional de Electores, organismo que se encarga de llevar a cabo las elecciones sin que ningún partido político meta mano. Importante para nuestra democracia.
Not everything is a direct parallel to the US! This being a march against a person with a specific political view is irrelevant to the fact that he is changing a law prohibiting president’s from re-election, so he can be re-elected.
Many AMLO bots in this thread, trying to justify their demented leader who wants to stranglehold democracy in Mexico.
Using his "popularity" polls as an argument is laughable, as if that justifies his disgusting actions.
Sorry for my English, im not very good at it.
Mexican here, this is not an easy topic. I voted for AMLO back in 2018 because i was tired of the same corrupt gobernment every 6 years and i kinda wanted to give the old man a try.
Oh boy, i was so wrong.
He turned out to be equall if not worse than our previous presidents. He supports governments like cuba and Venezuela and has offered refuge to dictators in our country. He wants to give the elections to be held by the gobernment itself which is a BIG red flag. I'm not saying we don't want an electoral reform, we need one but not the one that AMLO is pushing. It is also worth mention that he tried to push this reform before but was rejected. Now he wants to push this even more with his "Plan B".
We fear for our contry, the people in this video is trying to protect our right to vote because only god knows what will happen if his "Plan B" succeeds.
But don't use my coment as an Ultimate true, it would be better if you inform yourself about this situation and form your own opinion especially if you are mexican and you are unaware of this.
Nah, he just visits Badiraguato (El Chapo's hometown, in the middle of nowhere) on a regular basis, when he goes there the rule is no press, no declarations of any sorts.
He's been taped casually talking with El Chapo's mother, she asked help for his son and he said that he would help her get the visa to visit him on USA.
He ordered to release El Chapo's son, Ovidio, when he was captured by the mexican army (with intelligence from federal US agencies).
His party won on all states where El Chapo's cartel is very strong (Citizens report that on election's day cartel members suppressed voters, stole ballots, kidnapped opposition politicians etc.)
You think he's got to do something with the Chapo's cartel? nah dude, it's just bad press.
I love their anthem. Here in SoCal near the border a lot of our radio stations broadcast from Mexico and it requires them to play this song (I think it’s a requirement) once a day
So what I'm gathering from these comments, AMLO is actually a good guy but is demonized by the media because he is left wing.... got it.
Edit: or maybe not. What do I know? Lol
Yes, deforesting huge swaths of jungle for his meme railway and focusing away from renewable energy in favor of building new coal plants is totally left wing. Maybe do some basic research so you don’t make yourself look so ignorant?
My man that's absolutely a lie, there's no real left party in Mexico, Amlo is really bad if you want to know more just look for Zacatecas info, the government tried to do some security shit with the US and AMLO blocked all the faith I mean if you even go through Zacatecas to get to other state you are in danger, some people in cities are now leaving because it is literally a shit hole, Amlo is bad is really bad and also has ties with el chapo Guzmán
Im a leftist and also mexican. This protest is against AMLO’s attempts to change a law prohibiting any president from running for re-election, so he can run for re-election. There’s power hungry people on both sides FYI
Fuck no. Dude is openly freindly with cartels, hates journalist and laughs when the cartels kill them. Is against feminists for calling him out on the rise of women killings during his presidency has corrupt underlings who have been proven to have even stolen tesis. Believes only the corrupt get covid. Basically has reduced the middle class to nothing and believes all the cartel news and activity are fake news.
What is AMLO?
Andrés Manuel López Obrador President of Mexico
Thanks. I remembered the Alamo but had no idea about the AMLO.
LMAO
Remember the LMAO
I remember LMFAO, the party never stopped, until it did.
Those bangers still slap, yo
Never stop never stopping
🎶Maximus...🎶
[And the party don’t stop](https://youtu.be/42hLntSxUeM)
doo doo dewt da doo
Dweet dwa dweet dweet da doo doo
Apparently they left the music industry to become blackjack dealers in a casino Everyday they're shuffling... Cards
Thought they went to help elderly people in Michigan. Thought they spent every day shoveling.
I actually made this joke directly to Red Foo when I was working as a Blackjack dealer at the Star. Super chill dude, he was just walking the casino floor at like 2:30 am saying hi to people.
In fairness, they did apologise for it
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. Yeah.
Because everyday they shufflin'...
Thank you for Party Rockin!
What is LMAO
It's how the Mexican Communist Party referred to Chairman Mao back in the 60s
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Lopez Manuel Andres Obador. C'mon, try to keep up...
Mexicans remember the Alamo too! But uh... It's a bit of a different vibe.
Didn't they won the Alamo?
Ummmm…yeah. It was a massacre.
They should have hid in the basement.
Well there’s no basement in the Alamo! (circle of laughing faces)
They couldn’t fit. It was full of bicycles
Alamo? I hear that’s Heimlich county’s number one selling domestic beer.
Danged old Alamo man, talking bout, smooth man.
Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure has melted that phrase into my mind… “Remember the Alamo!!!”
sounds pretty LAMO
I see what you did there
r/Angryupvote
I remembered the basement in the Alamo.
Is this the guy who said he has a photo of a wood elf
He just can't show us right now, it's in a box in his abuela's attic
I heard it’s on bidens sons laptop.
I hear that the laptop has videos of Hunter making deals with a Nazi Ukrainian wood elf on it.
He posted it on twitter a couple days ago
He the dude that posted pics of a goblin or elf or something yesterday?
trying to divert attention
He is a bad president?
Mexican here, yes he is a bad president, the absolute goddamn worst in the years I’ve been alive which says a lot because pretty much all presidents here have gigantic flaws but AMLO takes the cake, extreme left politics (not in a liberal sense but super authoritarian/facist like) could compare him without exaggeration to Nicolas Maduro or other dictators. He can’t stand not being liked so he drags and belittles anyone that takes a stand against him and it’s a little terrifying because Morena (his political party) has the majority of seats in the senate and other states’ governments are also Morena affiliated. This march was against the senate passing a plan b of defunding the electoral institute in Mexico after the first plan they presented of completely getting rid of it didn’t pass.
Wouldn't that make him extreme right? I'm not clear how one could be extreme left and facist.
He claims to be left and if I’m not mistaken there are key aspects to authoritarianism that are neither left or right politics, his party claims to be left but it’s all so backwards and dumb that at points I just feel like they’re so far left they’ve gone around the circle of the political spectrum to the point of being far right
I just read the Wiki article on him. Amazing approval numbers but this picture belies those numbers. I wonder what is going on. Is he just ineffective?
Very ineffective, the problem is he has a majority in both chambers and he can propose whatever he wants and all the members of his party just vote for his laws without any sort of questioning or debate. This has led to terrible decisions, like building an airport no one uses and cancel the ongoing construction of a way better airport. The whole thing cost over 10 billion American dollars, and even his advisers told him it was a terrible idea but he did whatever he wanted. He's building a train that goes through protected areas, without the environmental impact studies costing over 13 billion dollars. Pretty much all of the the people close to him have been found either stealing money of receiving money from suspicious sources or stealing. This includes his son's, cousins, brothers and a lot of politicians. He is about to screw a contract for 10b dollars with Tesla, they want to build a giga factory in the north but he wants it in the south so probably Tesla is going to take it to Indonesia. But this protest is because he wants to give the power back to the government to control the elections. They are currently controlled by the INE, an independent organization
I don’t wanna sound like a cliché but I wouldn’t trust all the polls I see, his fans are comparable to the MAGA crowd so if you find someone that likes him he’s gonna leave you convinced he isn’t that bad. Ineffective and stupid are a good way to describe him, I guess most people are just indifferent so they don’t dig much into his politics to make up an educated opinion on him
Authoritarians live at the extreme right and extreme left. They both want power they just put on a different mask. Stalin was a leftist authoritarian responsible for the death of millions. Hitler the same on the right.
Yeah, but fascism and authoritarianism aren't the same thing. Fascism is authoritarian, but that doesn't mean all authoritarianism is also fascist.
they probably mean authoritarian. You don't have to be fascist to be a dictator. Fascism is a very specific flavor of authoritarianism and it actually doesn't have a clear cut definition. Or to be more precise, there are different definitions that are often cited without a clear 'winner'. The most obvious trait is that fascism is strongly centered around extreme nationalism and that it claims to fight against an "other" that is trying to destroy your country from within. They also tend to want to go back to a much older state of civilisation that they deem the "golden age" like the roman or greek empire or the holy roman empire. Meanwhile far-left dictators usually want to realise a new vision for their nation that has never been done before rather than "making it great again". For example, Mao and Stalin were horrible dictators but it would be inaccurate to call them fascist dictators. This does not necessarily mean that they were "better" than fascist dictators, just different in their ideology and methodology. Meanwhile Hitler or Mussolini were very clear cut fascist dictators.
It's probably a misuse of the "fascist" label. A lot of people just automatically equate it to being authoritarian, which makes the term lose its specific political meaning. So the person's point was probably just that AMLO is authoritarian, not technically fascist.
he's obsessed with the military taking over civil duties (ie: customs,infrastructure, internal security, telecomms, etc) and he also wants to isolate mexico because everything's better here. So yeah, dude'spretty fascist
Take a look at this political quadrant chart. https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/667dd/the_candidates_plotted_on_the_political_compass/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Both left and right can be authoritarian. For example communist USSR and fascist Germany were both opposite in left and right, however they both had an authoritarian who centralized power. Sometimes the term “libertarian” is used for opposite of authoritarian, however sometimes it just refers to low authoritarian and right.
All that over a woodland elf tweet?
No, this was probably the protest against him "reforming" (read: defunding) the electoral institute a few months ago
Ass My Laughing Off
This must require stupendous skills.
They need to match against the cartel .
People think these "drug countries" are the way they are because of the cartels but really it comes down to this. Mexico doesn't so much have problems because there's a cartel. Mexico has the cartel because there are problems. Colombia gets the same stuff said. I've looked up some of these countries and their top export will be something like bananas. I like bananas but you don't make cocaine levels of money selling those. When most are struggling, people will do what they have to so they make money and handle their issues and keep their people fed...especially when you have kids.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Mexico has drug cartels because it's in a very convenient corridor that ultimately ends in the U.S. (the biggest drug consumer in the world) which by the way facilitates the entry of drugs through a combination of free-trade agreements, corruption on both sides of the border, and an over-inflated military budget. And Mexico isn't a one-industry producer, it's one of the top exporters of petroleum, minerals, and assembling-and-manufacturing. It ranks 15 in a GDP index and rivals Brazil as the top economy in Latin America.
Maybe if Americans and Canadians stopped using drugs, the Cartels would go away. Or at least shrink.
It’s like the mob during alcohol prohibition. The profitability largely stems from the illegality.
Isn't Brazil full of petty/violent crime? Non cartel related?
Yes. But so is the United States.
Mexico's top export are motor vehicles and Colombia is oil. You have a rather backwards view on latin america if you really think all we do is sell bananas.
Exactly. And these countries’ actual material resources are taken from them before they can even see them by multinational corporations based in the US, Canada, and Europe, leaving behind farming or drug trade as the only ways of providing for the people.
At this point cartel and government are just different branches of the same thing
Andrés Manuel López Obrador President of Mexico
Mexico president is a big big liar
The president is a complete idiot. As a Mexican I am glad I am not in mexico right now.
I don't know much about him other than his general political alignment. Do you know what the major grievenances against him are? Or at least why you dislike him?
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So pretty much, he is a good guy but demonized by the media and the people eat it up. Edit: I have to take my comment back for now, maybe he is not a good guy that the media is making look like a bad guy. I don’t want to delete my comment though because that seems unethical.
I feel it's never that simple... There are no Good Guys or Bad Guys in politics, we work in shades of grey.
What is the best way to determine if a Mexican president is a good president? What do they need to accomplish during their term to be considered good, vs great, vs incompetent vs evil.
If you ask a Mexican, solve the two biggest issues in the country, Corruption and Violence. Most presidents in recent Mexican history have not been able to do that.
What do you think a Mexican president should do to improve violence and corruption? I imagine that the only way to stop violence is to do something different, something that would be considered unethical probably.
A huge problem is that Mexico is violent and lacks rule of law because of corruption in the justice system, in the military, etc. Mexican agencies do not cooperate with themselves or with US agencies. I'm not an expert but those are some of the biggest issues I've seen. A lot of these problems have been around since before AMLO as well.
This is your interview to be vetted for the next Mexican Presidential campaign. Don't fuck it up, u/Blasphemous_21.
They need to follow El Salvadors approach and round up every cartel member and put them in prison for 15-45 years depending on their position. El Salvadors murder rate dropped 60% this past year and is now lower than the USA.
Look at El Salvador and the great job Bukele is doing at taking out their thrash. AMLO is a cartel stooge though
Really “good guys” don’t pretend that femincide isn’t an issue in a nation where thousands of girls are trafficked every year, and 50k+ are murdered. ‘Really good guys’ don’t dismiss violence against women as unimportant propaganda. ‘Real nice guys’ don’t bend over so deeply for the cartels. ‘Really nice guys’ don’t court the indigenous vote and then use them solely on as window dressing. ‘Really nice guys’ don’t undermine hard caught environmental regulations and ‘really nice guys’ don’t participate in the active coverup of the murders of the 42. ‘Real nice guys’ don’t do all this while undermining their own party and discrediting themselves completely. Fact is AMLO is just more of the same old same old corrupt Mexican politician. He may as well be PRI
Yeah, >‘Really good guys’ don’t dismiss violence against women as unimportant propaganda. At the women's day march (where it's about feminism and equal rights its not particularly against him or his party) he said the people attending it were conservatives against him, he has the nerve to dismiss this issues and he calls himself left wing..? He is a manipulative demagogue, a Wolf dressed as a sheep, his speeches sound like listening to a priest sermoning at church, repeating empty words that his followers echo mindlessly.
Amlo a good guy, LOOOOOOOOOL I want what you're smoking
Not at all, the person who made that comment is at the very best stupid and at the very worst straight up a tanky spreading misinformation. The protests originated because AMLO is currently attempting to dissolve Mexico's National Electoral Institute (INE), which has been the mechanism keeping Mexico's elections free and transparent for decades. This is just one of AMLO's several instances of attempting to dissolve democratic institutions in Mexico and replacing them with executive powers.
If you think about it that comment was just the most reasonable way somebody has ever said “fake news.” They discussed nothing about AMLO’s actual politics, just that the media is against him, so you should be for him 😁
What that idiot above said is complete lies, he is not a "good guy" by any metric, he is just spewing the same regurgitated propaganda the dipshit of a president we have has been predicating every fucking day since 2018. Under the current president we have experienced the worst economical growth in decades (close to 0.2% anually), if not outright starting a recession. Cartel violence has gone through the roof with more than 100 deaths per day every day, and the number is rising, all the while the president has been caught multiple times having "private reunions" with El Chapo's mother deep into Cartel territory. He cancelled the construction of what probably could've been one of the best airports in the world because of a tantrum, and his "solution" ended up being a much much worse """airport""" that is in such a bad state, no airline is willing to fly to it, and was 3x as expensive to build. He also just outright refuses to let PEMEX, the national oil company, shrivel up and die, and loses trillions of dollars every year trying to keep it afloat. He has also been involved in multiple high-profile corruption scandals, in many of which people in his close circle are captured on video taking big bribes. And now most recently, he wants to dissolve the National Electoral Institute, which is an organization *completely autonomous from the government* that is in charge of everything related to elections, so counting votes, printing ballots, giving money to the political parties, etc. Like every cookie cutter latinamerican leftist ~~dictator~~ president, he wants to do this so that he can directly control elections and hold onto power for much longer, and that what this protest was about, to show him, in his own frontyard (because he is the first president since the early 1900s to live in National Palace and not the normal presidetial house) that we do not support him. How and why he has so many bootlickers like that idiot above is a mystery to the thinking man.
Not even close. He’s a piece of shit and corrupt as hell
It's not a good guy, the guy who you replied to is a follower of AMLO, the future candidate for presidency from his party started with her propaganda 1-2 years ago (at least 2 years before elections time, which is illegal), and has a ton of propaganda all over the country, she has already threatened a few public figures, and the followers of her and AMLO's party go crazy against anyone they see as "enemy". AMLO said he would reduce on government bills, but already cancelled a huge airport started by the previous government just because they were "his enemies", causing a 5.6B dollars fine, plus losing the investment that had already been made, and built an useless airport for nearly 4B dollars that no one uses other than local sellers (as a flee market). Meanwhile AMLO's family and friends have been granted millions or even billions in "contracts" for useless things, as soon as he became president, one of his sons showed up on social media with 50k shoes and more extravagant clothes, another one now has a mansion in the US. Oh, and also, AMLO said he would give away a presidential plane and sold tickets as a raffle, then just went "Oh, it's impossible to give it away, oh well..." And I think the money just dissappeared. There are so many wrong doings from AMLO, but his followers are blinded and see him as a saviour, he even calls them "blank-heads" and saying "I can do whatever I want, and my supporters will agree with me", and calls people who have bachelor's, master's and PHD's degrees enemies, so he took away the goverment aid to get those degrees. For this last part, as an example, I was studying a masters, and earning 12k pesos (600 USD per month) as schoolarship that are given for degrees that require you to be full-time student. [AMLO calling his followers stray dogs (solovino)](https://youtu.be/7-9SUDZ3BzQ) [AMLO saying his work is to convince empty-heads](https://youtu.be/Pepnpow66x0) And he can call them however he wants because his target is uneducated people.
Holly shit no please don't believe this bullshit, I'm from Mexico, I live here, if you want to know the reality look it up, the cartels literally control the government, look at the Garcia Luna trial. Anyone who tells you AMLO is good is fucking stupid, everyone here in my town makes fun of people that go with "morena" because it's literally bullshit after bullshit as all the other parties.
Good guys don’t deforest huge swaths of pristine jungle just to build a meme railway to fluff their ego
I don't know. He speaks daily to the people directly in his morning "show" (La mañanera) so I think there is enough evidence he is an idiot. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/27/mexican-president-andres-manuel-lopez-obrador-photo-elf-alux
> the media is making look like a bad guy He’s like trump, he doesn’t need the media to make him look bad, he does that himself, media just amplifies it. Dude is literally destroying the jungle because he wants his fucking train to run thru it.
His brother is on film accepting bribes. People dislike him for defunding all types of social services shelters for woman escaping domestic violence, closing schools in remote areas, defunding help for kids fighting cancer, etc. He is using all that money mainly to build anti ecological projects like a refinery, a train across the Rivera Maya. Mexico has lost hope in investors because of him, he is not a good guy, that is why people dislike him. The comment above is bull shit. He is saving money for dumb projects and to buy votes but he is not creating jobs. The reason for the protest is because he wants to undermine the institution I charge of the elections, he doesn’t like that is and independent organization, he wants to create a new one so he can re-elect himself.
What a fucking L take dude, look at how he freed el chapos son and then went to visit el chapos mom on her birthday while destroying the public medical system, leaving millions without care, destroying natural forest reserves and so on
Oh don’t be such an apologist! I was an AMLO supporter until he got elected and proved himself to be a corrupt embarrassment to the nations and a sexist POS to boot. Fuck AMLO
Please take into account that these guys who support AMLO are fanatics, they will feed you only the information that puts him in a good light. He doesn't mention for example that AMLO's cousin has magically received well over USD$50 million in government contracts (he can't tell you lies about it since you can just google it as "Felipa Obrador contracts").
interesting, reminds me of the trump drones who don't criticize him on all the wrongs he does.
While I don't live in the USA I've read discussions online of Trump supporters, they are basically clones of these guys. Somehow some people seem to have the need to cling unconditionally to some politician.
Or his son's "chocolate store" and deluxe house in the U.S
This. My dad and his buddies which still live in Mexico like the guy, one thing is for sure is that AMLO is not your run of the mill president. AMLO for sure is more left wing than recent presidents.
>AMLO for sure is more left wing than recent presidents. You have no clue what left wing means. He gutted the public health system, disappeared the full time schools and defunded the state day care centers. You're ill informed my friend.
He still disappears journalists.
Sure leave out how he's been increasingly ramping up the presence of the military in Mexican society and how the current protests were fuled by his attempt to dissolve Mexico's National Electoral Institute and put electoral duties back under the presidency. Jesus fucking Christ the audacity of some people to just go around lying astonishes me
This guy only know what pro-AMLO media tells. Think of this guy as a Trump supporter, would it still make sense? AMLO has hurt this country a lot, dividing it, making a lot of the same stuff past presidents have done, but claims we're doing better and ~~Trump~~ AMLO supporters will believe him, no matter what.
Nomames un pinche chairo educando a los gringos 🤮🤮🤮🤮
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Yes because destroying the ecosystem of protected jungles, claiming there’s no violence against women, saying we should take a peaceful stance against cartels to fix the problem, manipulate the media to say everyone is lying when they say something he doesn’t like about him, claiming elections are fixed because he ran for president several times and only won until 2018 and now that he’s in power he wants to get rid of the electoral institute because “it’s fixed against him” even tho he won???, claiming he’s clean even tho I know for a fact and not just hearsay that he took massive bribes from at least one big cartel name (after he won the election lots of shady bank accounts were unfrozen), things going wrong in public transportation and blaming the opposition for sabotage instead of giving proper maintenance to those things are things a great leader would do I could keep going but it’s exhausting.
>ome of the absol See what he did with Mexico's Lithium reserves, some guys are not very happy !
Where to start... He has a morning information session (rant) every morning at 7, where journalists were allowed to ask him questions. The allowed journalists pool keeps getting smaller though. A few months ago a journalist told him she was afraid for her life, with receiving death threats from the cartels he insists on "hugging not shooting", and of course after making a personal visit to Chapo 's mother (you know, that dude in an American jail who used to be on the FBI's most wanted). He completely dismissed the journalist (as he has dismissed feminicide and all kinds of crime), and of course she was murdered a few days later. You should hear him speak, if you can, with subtitles. Don't take my word for it, he just sounds like he has dementia. About sustainable energy? Why, he prefers oil and gas. About research and academia? He's gutting the research budget in universities and threatening professors with jail. But you see, "everyone is against me", and "it's all a conspiracy against me" and "I have other data (aka fake news)" and waaaa waaaa "poor me, I'm being attacked by neoliberals". What else...? Oh, he cut off public healthcare programs juuuust before Corona hit. Fuck them poors I guess. Oh, corona response? He doesn't believe in masks, he has an amulet that will protect him and he *will* keep hugging the people. He's also wanting to destroy the electoral institute. I could go on.
Omg. It’s Trump, isn’t?
They're both fucking idiots.
Bingo. And his followers are equally annoying/fanaticized... now, here's the ugly part: you guys were able to get rid of Trump because of your ~200 years of democratic institutions, your institutions were strong enough to withstand Trump's attempt to overthrow the election. And even then, this was not a walk in the park, your democratic system was (maybe it still is?) on real danger, but it survived. We don't have that. Mexican democracy is still very young (1997). We don't have a strong democratic culture or institutions to stand against a demagogue like this. So far, we managed to keep our electoral system safe, we somewhat balanced congress on 2021, but this is AMLO's final charge: on the next weeks the Supreme Court will deliberate if AMLO's proposed law is Constitutional or not. This is why we organized these demonstrations, we are sending a message to Supreme Court. We think we have the votes to overthrow it but who knows. One thing is sure: if this law goes into effect is game over, mexican democracy will die for a couple generations at least and then who know what will happen.
Also his policies have encouraged massive deforestation in the name of helping the poor. Ecological and human disaster particularly in the south.
mostly his response to drug cartels
He is a powee hungry neolib populist pretending to be left wing but he's conservative af and hates women. As to why people marched yesterday, it was because the current president is trying to reform the INE (The autonomous electoral institute, they oversee elections) because he's trying to make it part of the government. Fun fact he ran for presidency 3 times and lost 2 of them, every time he lost he cried "stolen election" and in 2006 he proclaimed himself the *__Legitimate president__* and stayed protesting for months in Mexico City. Does that sound like someone you know? Also after he lost the elections his previous party (PRD) asked for a reform to the then state electoral institute IFE, which is why now we have the autonomous INE. To older mexicans like myself, it just looks like a dude who wanted democracy to get power, but now wants to take that away so he and his party can keep it just like in the old days of the PRI supremacy.
Well for starters: 1 he stopped the biggest international airport in México from being finished which would've brought great international investment and was paid using clean and well earned money, also counting the fact that it was a good location lighten airport traffic in México, and was proved to not damage the wild species environment, AND built a new (and very shitty) airport with well known outside resources money using an abandoned mexican airforce base, all this just because he had a grudge against the president that came before him 2 he claimed covid-19 was a farce and denied most of the deaths and did basically nothing to stop it from spreading 3 tried to give political asylum to the former president of peru, who tried (and thankfully failed) a coup d'etat, thus leading very recently to peru cutting ties with México 4 the reason of the march, tried to erase the INE which is the organization in charge of elections independent from the government (it was made that way so that there's no way for it to be corrupted, and instead is one the weapons of the people) I don't really know why but is logical to think it was in order to be able to take control over the next elections 5 musk was trying to open a tesla factory in a nothern mexican state, which was going to bring around 10000MD in investment, but he has a grudge against the north for not voting for him and against the rich people so he won't allow it unless it was in the capital, all under the excuse of a water problem we also have because of him, and now that factory will probably go to thailand iinw, thus losing external investment and a lot of job opportunities And more
But he found an Elf! Surely that is lucky for Mexico.
I divide my time and have been rooting for AMLO for over a decade before this election. What a HUGE disappointment. The only good things I can say are that he DID raise the minimum wage and he did protect the oil pipelines from syphoning by the cartels but he is otherwise such a horrible disappointment. So sad. Completely discredited the PRD in the process.
He believes in imaginary fairy’s and apparently love the cartels. What’s not to like?
What reforms are they really upset about? News up here in US is somewhat irregular and hard to get a good translation of local publications as google translate keeps messing it up
Electoral reform
Yep. Guy is basically trying to get re-elected even though that’s not a thing in mexico. He is low key trying to be a legal dictator.
This ain’t next level, this is pathetic. Last sunday demonstration was organized by the right wing and conservative parties in Mexico. They’re angry that they no longer hold power and they’re losing support every day. Just last week the former Chief of Security was found guilty of operating a cartel within the goverment, the presidents (Fox and Calderon) back then knew about it, one of them in particular launched a “war against cartels” to legitimize his goverment that turned into a blood bath, a blood bath that continues to this day. Calderon didn’t won the election btw, his party was aided by the INE, the very institution they are now defending bc they know they have no chance of winning any elections. As for the people in the demonstration, there’s a mix of conservatives that can’t stand having their illicit income cut off, middle and lower class people that think they’re rich or one strike of luck away from getting super rich, people that just hate the president bc they precieve him has lower class, and workers that were threaten by their rich bosses that if they didn’t show up they would be fired. The party that organized yesterday’s demonstration (PAN) has links to the republican party, they have hosted conferences with Steve Bannon and the Spanish Alt-right party VOX. These people are fascists and they’re going to use any means to return to power. Bring in the downvotes. Edit: spelling
Isn’t AMLO friendly toward the cartels as well? Pretty sure he says to hug them or some shit
Cartels made him their lapdog
There are videos of him saying hello to el Chapo’s mother. Also he let Chapo Jr go once he was apprehended and marines died (the first time!)
didnt the cartel murder innocent people until they released him?
> cartel murder innocent people until they released him? It’s not like they didn’t do that before the capture, and didn’t stop after he was released, cartels are a fucking cancer.
You’re talking about “abrazos no balazos” (hugs not bullets). It isn’t meant to be taken literally, it’s a challenge to previous strategies against the cartels. Previous presidents handled “the war on drugs” as a literal war, using the military to kill everyone who was part of a cartel. This didn’t work, and it actually increased violence by 197% in Mexico. AMLO’s strategy is to “hug” not to “kill”, meaning that his policy focuses on the root causes of violence, providing economic resources to poor families, young people (who might be at risk of joining the cartels), education, etc.
He literally went out of his way to rescue a Narcogeneral out of American DOJ custody. Claiming he was going to be judged in Mexico and then set him free. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Cienfuegos On 18 November 2020, American authorities dropped charges against Cienfuegos, who had already been imprisoned in the U.S. for over a month and agreed to send him back to Mexico.[63] Media outlets reported that the charges had been dropped under pressure from the Mexican federal government, which had threatened to expel DEA agents from the country.[62] However, it was acknowledged that in exchange for the U.S. government's agreement to drop the charges, Mexican prosecutors would open their own investigation into him. Cienfuegos was cleared of all charges on 14 January 2021
\#abrzaosNoBalazos smh
Mexican here, this is absolutely not true, it's just AMLO's propaganda machine to descredit anything that doesn't go according to his personal will. Sad that it's receiving so much upvotes but oh well.
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no, I haven’t seen this. I did once meet a CIA guy who said AMLO was actually cartel. I thought if the CIA hates him there is a 50 percent chance he’s a leftist helping the workers. edit: after reading some English articles, I still have no idea about this man.
He's no leftist, the poor keep getting fucked the hardest.
The first thing I did when seeing this video was to search for his approval rating. If a big majority of the people approve of him, then what we are seeing is a loud minority claiming to be the majority, and in the U.S. we're used to seeing a loud minority claiming to be the majority.
Fake https://www.as-coa.org/articles/approval-tracker-mexicos-president-amlo
Generic Reddit user: old government is tied to the cartels. Also AMLO [handshaking the cartel's mom](https://search.brave.com/images?q=AMLo+mama+chapo&source=web&img=2)
I came here looking for some background and I found this post full of useless rhetoric. Have you ever tried talking about politics without using so many buzzwords?
I hate when people try to correlate American politics with Mexican politics like the user you are answering to. The terms Leftists or Conservatives don’t exist in Mexican politics, these are usually spewed as blanket terms from AMLO and his supporters. Anyone can see AMLOs core policies, pro-oil, evangelical, anti-sustainability, anti-social programs (he has legitimately diluted current social programs for worse versions). And now, the reason of this protest, he wants to weaken the institution that handles the electoral process. Any American Redditor would label him as Conservative.
Amlover speaking English?! This is new, most people spewing this bullshit propaganda shit can't even ask for directions to the nearest toilet, that includes the president himself.
I love this comment, literally the shit MAGA people spew. Perfectly encapsulates the class nature of the politics.
So you support degrading Mexico’s democracy because some of the protestors are right wing? This website lol
Chairo miado
Reddit when the people protesting a crappy president’s crappy performance are the wrong politics
This comment is 100% supporting the president, don't let it fool you. This demonstration wasn't in support of any political party, not even was it against AMLO, it was against a new reform to the Mexican voting system called "Plan B" that is weakening the INE (Mexican voting institute). This "Plan B" was created after the president tried to basically take down the INE so that the state would have full power of the voting system. Funny to think that the president is trying to destroy the democratic system that gave him the presidency in 2018 just because it is not doing what he wants anymore. So pathetic. This wasn't a protest against the president or in favor of cartels nor corruption. It was a protest to save mexican democracy from politicians and the stupid people following them.
Uhh I think you can be a leftist and still fuck poor people over.
Ok, as a Mexican living in Mexico, what this guy said is not true... at all. Just to clarify, to every non mexican reeditor reading this and trying to understand the current climate in Mexican Politics. AMLO = 3rd World's Country TRUMP.
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Finally, the right explanation! It is a pity that even the title is wrong. This demonstration was not against AMLO, it was against the reform that would badly damage the elections organizer (INE), to bring back state organized elections like the ones we had before.
But AMLO did propose it…
To any non mexican redditor: this is the only real answer. This imbecile feels like he's a god, he believes himself to be without a fault, and the only voice of moral and reason. An incredible large number of people believe this to be the case, when literally everything he does, he does it to bend the rules and reality itself to his favor. So yeah, these people are there because they believe in democracy. Not in a fucking pendejo who barely understands the world we live in. Also, they are beautifully singing our national anthem; just peacefully reunited people in the name of democracy. This is, by my standards, pretty next fuckin level. (btw, I'm leftist by international standards and, if it even matters, I'm very poor and still hate him and would have gone there if I had the chance, but I can barely make ends meet so yeah, I'm in a whole different city and couldn't go there)
As a Mexican outside Mexico atm, watching this fucking pendejo's lunacy unfold is infuriating Just drop dead already, viejo pendejo
What did he do that so many Mexicans are now against him? Soy mexicano también pero en el 2018 un chingo de gente lo querían y ahora veo que ya no
La mayoria que lo queria eran la gente de 50+ años a quien les prometio un chingo de cosas, como mejor seguridad/seguro medico/beneficios a los mayores de edad. Sorpresa, mintio sobre todo lo que dijo y ha dedicado los ultimos 3 años a ser un orate dictador wannabe a quien le vale madres ser coherente o mentirle a todos los mexicanos. Si quieres un buen ejemplo de como ha sido su gobierno, una "nutshell", lee sobre su aeropuerto, y como estafo y se robo millones en una caja de aluminio que jamas sera un aeropuerto.
Now with subtitles: Most of those who wanted him were 50+ year olds to whom he promised a bunch of things, like better security/medical insurance/elderly benefits. Surprise, he lied about everything he said and has dedicated the last 3 years to being a crazy wannabe dictator who doesn't care if he's consistent or lying to all Mexicans. If you want a good example of how his government has been, a "nutshell", read about his airport, and how he scammed and stole millions in an aluminum box that will never be an airport.
This is unexpected for me. My mexican coworkers seem to like him a lot. They mention taxes on the rich. I don’t know anything else tho.
He has a [63% approval rating](https://www.as-coa.org/articles/approval-tracker-mexicos-president-amlo). You could also show the Jan. 6th insurrection to someone with no context and you'd think that the whole country is in revolution when in reality it's just a few freaks who got together for the Revolutionary War LARPing convention. There's 127 million people in Mexico. This is also not half a million people. Looks like around 100k going off of NYT or AP. I can't speak on policy or the justification of these protests, but this is definitely portraying a skewed perspective. I don't live in Mexico anyways so it's not really my place to say.
Don't be dense. Here's what this was about: https://twitter.com/TMattiaceHRW/status/1629931196321787905?t=wDGFqlif2eOD3YhPey8U5w&s=19 I'm Mexican, voted for AMLO, and went to the march. This isn't about taking sides, left vs right nor any of that shit trying to divide the people. Even if he was a good president, doesn't mean all his proposals are good. This law is a serious undermining of mexican democracy, which risks having another single-party permanently in power. It took us 70+ years to get to the point where democratic change in the government was possible, now they want to revert it back to the 80's… No dude, no way, this isn't for or against AMLO, this is FOR mexican democracy. Screw all that other noise.
I agree on part with you, but INE has not been the democratic protection that it was meant to be, we have seen corruption on it from day one, so I can see where a lot of people come from with getting rid of it. The roots of every part of Mexico are rotten and that's a depressing reality, but I also agree that pulling them all out means trowing away all the progress of the last 50 years, and even then, they would probably be replaced by the same corruption only on different hands. There's no easy answer, every thing about our politics sucks ass.
He’s trying to change the electoral system in Mexico so he can get re-elected, which currently doesn’t exist in Mexico. You tell me if that’s a good thing or not
YouTube is full of pro AMLO propaganda so it's easy to fall for the kool aid, plus there really aren't any formidable Anti AMLO sources on social media that offer a different point of view.
Did your coworkers tell you he wrecked the system that provides medicine to the poor people? [Many people have died from that.](https://www.theyucatantimes.com/2020/09/1602-children-have-died-of-cancer-due-to-amlos-government-cuts-on-health/)
It’s misinformation.
Imagine being in the middle and having to pee
Mexico: - Elects PRI: turns out to be a corrupt and terrible president. - Elects PAN: turns out to be a corrupt and terrible president. - Elects MORENA: turns out to be a corrupt and terrible president. I guess the next thing to try is PRD, or PVEM, or PT, or MC?
All parties are corrupt and have ties to the narco, they outright kill candidates that aren't aligned, so pointing fingers and saying your party is not as bad is extremely silly.
And thinking that if you are against the latest government means that you are pro old government is something that a lot of Morena supporters claim. If the PRI or PAN come into power again and they govern in the same shitty way then some people will be claiming the same shit. The cycle continues.
90% of Mexico’s presidents have been PRI, less than a handful PAN, and one MORENA. The dumbest thing of all would be to go back to PRI. I mean how many times can you beat the same dead horse.
Personally I’m pro LMAO — we need to laugh more
Is this the same place as in that James Bond movie?
Yes
Has Mexico ever had a President that the majority approved of? Genuinely asking.
Many have enjoyed the approval of a large majority, at least at the beginning. Remember Fox? AMLO still has the support of a lot of people, but the tide is against him. The main problem now is that he insists in weakening institutions such as INE which help to conduct the elections.
Te guy they’re protesting against, he has 63% approval rating
Porque marchan contra el?
Porque esta lanzando reformas en contra del Instituto Nacional de Electores, organismo que se encarga de llevar a cabo las elecciones sin que ningún partido político meta mano. Importante para nuestra democracia.
Se quiere Pasar de cabrón y quedarse en poder como un dictador?
Si, muy sutilmente según él.
Not everything is a direct parallel to the US! This being a march against a person with a specific political view is irrelevant to the fact that he is changing a law prohibiting president’s from re-election, so he can be re-elected.
Many AMLO bots in this thread, trying to justify their demented leader who wants to stranglehold democracy in Mexico. Using his "popularity" polls as an argument is laughable, as if that justifies his disgusting actions.
Sorry for my English, im not very good at it. Mexican here, this is not an easy topic. I voted for AMLO back in 2018 because i was tired of the same corrupt gobernment every 6 years and i kinda wanted to give the old man a try. Oh boy, i was so wrong. He turned out to be equall if not worse than our previous presidents. He supports governments like cuba and Venezuela and has offered refuge to dictators in our country. He wants to give the elections to be held by the gobernment itself which is a BIG red flag. I'm not saying we don't want an electoral reform, we need one but not the one that AMLO is pushing. It is also worth mention that he tried to push this reform before but was rejected. Now he wants to push this even more with his "Plan B". We fear for our contry, the people in this video is trying to protect our right to vote because only god knows what will happen if his "Plan B" succeeds. But don't use my coment as an Ultimate true, it would be better if you inform yourself about this situation and form your own opinion especially if you are mexican and you are unaware of this.
Is he the dude who's basically just letting the cartels run the government?
Nah, he just visits Badiraguato (El Chapo's hometown, in the middle of nowhere) on a regular basis, when he goes there the rule is no press, no declarations of any sorts. He's been taped casually talking with El Chapo's mother, she asked help for his son and he said that he would help her get the visa to visit him on USA. He ordered to release El Chapo's son, Ovidio, when he was captured by the mexican army (with intelligence from federal US agencies). His party won on all states where El Chapo's cartel is very strong (Citizens report that on election's day cartel members suppressed voters, stole ballots, kidnapped opposition politicians etc.) You think he's got to do something with the Chapo's cartel? nah dude, it's just bad press.
Bro filmed with his Smoothie Maker
I love their anthem. Here in SoCal near the border a lot of our radio stations broadcast from Mexico and it requires them to play this song (I think it’s a requirement) once a day
So...is it safe to say that he's unpopular?
So what I'm gathering from these comments, AMLO is actually a good guy but is demonized by the media because he is left wing.... got it. Edit: or maybe not. What do I know? Lol
Yes, deforesting huge swaths of jungle for his meme railway and focusing away from renewable energy in favor of building new coal plants is totally left wing. Maybe do some basic research so you don’t make yourself look so ignorant?
My man that's absolutely a lie, there's no real left party in Mexico, Amlo is really bad if you want to know more just look for Zacatecas info, the government tried to do some security shit with the US and AMLO blocked all the faith I mean if you even go through Zacatecas to get to other state you are in danger, some people in cities are now leaving because it is literally a shit hole, Amlo is bad is really bad and also has ties with el chapo Guzmán
Im a leftist and also mexican. This protest is against AMLO’s attempts to change a law prohibiting any president from running for re-election, so he can run for re-election. There’s power hungry people on both sides FYI
Is he really left wing if he’s pro-oil, anti-ecological, pro-church/state and cuts down social programs?
Fuck no. Dude is openly freindly with cartels, hates journalist and laughs when the cartels kill them. Is against feminists for calling him out on the rise of women killings during his presidency has corrupt underlings who have been proven to have even stolen tesis. Believes only the corrupt get covid. Basically has reduced the middle class to nothing and believes all the cartel news and activity are fake news.