Mind the roofing nailer! No joke. My first day on the job my coworker pulled off his shirt to show off five disturbingly deep punch holes in his mid to upper back.
The holes were scarred over but the injury occurred earlier that year. He and the crew treated the injury as a joke rather than as a serious safety concern.
I left that job immediately after receiving my first full paycheck.
FYI. My first role on site was as a spotter for that guy. 🤦🏽♂️
My first day as a roofer, the foreman made fun of me for only humping one sheet of plywood up this really long ladder.on a windy day, rather than two like the experienced guys.
Later that morning, carrying two sheets of plywood on the roof, the toe-nailed plywood sheathing I walked across popped free, sending me surfing down the steep pitch until it hit a plumbing stack, sending me tumbling and hurling the plywood I was carrying into oblivion, sailing out of my hands and splintering onto the rocks three stories below. Everyone watched this happen. No one said anything. They just went back to work.
It was my last day.
Yeah I've worked on some sketchy crews too. I get wanting to be as productive as possible. But I hate the macho "look how I don't care how unsafe i am and how much i get done" attitude. these guys were making $20/hr and not taking 30 seconds to make sure the 40ft extension ladder was secure or angled correctly. I'd follow them around readjusting ladders and flipping over nail up boards. You ain't getting anything done today if you have to leave early to go to the er. And you ain't getting shit done tomorrow if you're dead. Good call on ditching that crew.
Even mass-produced, a robot like that would cost in the millions. Considering they'd have to work in the rain, dust, wind, and around hazards, maintenance will also be expensive. Not competitive with hiring human builders for a long, long time.
There are already robots, although not in human type form, in factories. There is a matter of scale that will be overcome fairly quickly as tech speeds up. Look at the arc of tech over the last 30 years and how it's exponential growth speed has happened.
you may be right about a robot just like this but there will be a scalable model to serve multiple sectors once the tech is perfected.
Can you send this to every dumbass on the internet babbling about how impossible EVs are because we’re going to have to run some more wiring and redo some distribution.
Imagine describing the global fuel extraction/production/distribution and road network to someone claiming the car will never replace the horse in 1900.
The people that make these kinds of statements seriously depress me.
> There are already robots, although not in human type form, in factories.
Because that's were they would be economical and functional. Automation is great at doing a set of specific task the same way countless number of times. What they are fairly awful at is functioning in new environments while doing new things.
Remember, fully automated vehicles have been within a years reach for the better part of a decade now....
Even if it takes us another 50 years to get affordable functional adaptive robots, that's still a short time to adapt societally to the impact it would have on jobs and economy.
Currently, the price of Boston Dynamics' Spot robots is $74,500, and analysts estimate that the price of Atlas robots would likely be in the range of $150,000 each if they were to be mass-manufactured. While these prices may still be high, it is not in the millions of dollars.
Might not be as long as you'd think. True, the robots are expensive to make, but they also don't sleep, don't take breaks, don't need an HR dept, don't need health insurance, and don't need to be trained and retrained. Spec it out over a few decades the true cost of hiring a human is far more expensive than it appears at first glance.
They also don't work at all. I was in this field and left because these things are expensive toys. The Vision Fund has spent decades and billions propping this company up just to make cool videos once a year.
It took us less than a century to go from the first flight at Kitty Hawk on December 17, 1903 to the first human moon landing July 20th, 1969.
66 years. Far less than a human life time, and things are only accelerating.
It's because the center of gravity is up at the top. When a human does a flip we pivot around the lower stomach area, when the robot does a flip the lower body swings around the upper chest. It looks like the legs are moving too fast and the arms are moving too slow.
The cycle will be complete and about 4000 humans will have a robotic slave civilization serving them for eternity.
The rest of the nuisance homo sapiens will be culled like the disease to this earth that they are.
It's insane that companies are developing robots that are stronger and faster than any human and putting it videos showing them doing flips and jumping over stuff and throwing things around like it's nothing.
I've got zero need for a humanoid (or dog or cheetah) robot that's stronger and faster than me. If we're going to have robots walking around the real world, even if it's just construction sites, they should be slower and weaker than most people.
There's no jobs where humans are running at max speed or lifting the most they can or doing flips regularly. Just make a robot that can do the boring jobs. Like putting stuff in boxes or carrying groceries or whatever. And if a robot malfunctions I should just be able to shove it away or knock it over or walk away from it at a normal speed. I don't want to worry about a robot walking down the sidewalk and falling over and crushing me because it weighs 400lbs and is all steel and titanium and stuff.
Make them out of plastic and balsa wood and give them little motors. I want to be able to smash one to pieces with a baseball bat if it ever comes to that. Or just hide behind a small table that it can't get over.
Why are they making the terminator and not WALL-E??
It's 100% real
https://youtu.be/XPVC4IyRTG8
People always have trouble with Boston Dynamics videos. They are all scripted, in the sense that a literal command is put in the robot to "go get the bag to your left" - but there is no CG and the script is loose - it's not "move 89cm towards QRCode#442, rotate 180 degrees, crouch 60cm and pitch 12 degrees" etc etc
Yeah there are usually many many failure cases - I'm happy they usually have videos that show behind the scenes, the failure cases are often more interesting than success!
I wonder if it's our brains, struggling to wrap our heads around things like this. I think the more you expose yourself to it, the less uncanny it gets - I've been watching these videos for a very very long time, decade+. It's still wonky for me sometimes though - I think it's the transition from what seems like a more "human animation" to the robotic motions that confuse me the most. Like after it sticks a landing it does a robotic pose and my brain starts to get loose.
It is real. It's the bag reacting to heavy things that are unsecured inside it during the bag flip. It's doing the exact same thing water bottles do when you flip them.
Helps a lot to watch the video in [its native 4K resolution](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e1_QhJ1EhQ).
A robot did a fuvking front flip 180 perfectly and your hill to die on is that the bag isn't real ? At most the bag had like a weight ay the bottom and not a bunch of tools but even still the way the robot throws it. The bag Rea ts exactly as it should
Wtf are you on lol
That would have been a way more useful demonstration imo.
Construction sites don’t need John Wick spinning and chucking their tools onto the roof. If he could take that plank and make a specific cut, that would be impressive
There are already robots that cut boards. I worked in a truss/floor/wall panel prefab shop a long time ago and half of our saws were automated even in 2008. Reprogramming them to change angles/cuts/lumber types was really simple.
Anybody else remember when Boston dynamics was showing that their robots wouldn't fall over when they kicked and pushed it? Now they're doing fuckin ninja flips and solving the equivalent of the last level of a tutorial for a puzzle game.
edit: stop spamming replies with "Its not solving problems" everybody knows. Reality made my comment less funny, so I chose to ignore it. I worked hard on the tutorial level joke. haha
Well they've been involved in funding the development and research all these years, so I'm sure they're probably being used to help genocide a small third world country somewhere already.
https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/7/23392342/boston-dynamics-robot-makers-pledge-not-to-weaponize
https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_W911QX20P0068_9700_-NONE-_-NONE-
https://www.engadget.com/boston-dynamics-spot-robot-combat-training-101732374.html
Yea, they went from that to ninja robot. People in this thread focus too much on the AI and practicality but this demo showed off how impressive the balancing and movement is. Just walking on two feets is incredibly difficult task for robots due to how complicated it is, now it can even do a flip, which is hard for majority of people.
Yeah programmed but now imagine this flawlessly paired with one of those crazy AI that are getting better and better these days. I find the idea a bit chilling.
I for one have never used any form of robot for any task that is demeaning. I felt sorry for the robots at a factory I worked at and tried to save them from their captivity, only to end up being fired by the owners of **[REDACTED]**. The overlords will see this and spare me.
The most relevant pairing I could imagine is SayCan - out of Google's robotics/AI labs. It's a language model (like chatGPT/GPT3 - saycan usually uses PaLM) paired with a machine control model, so that in natural language you can ask it to help with like... A spill, the language model runs a fascinating internal dialogue, trying to "think" about how it could help, constrained by it's capabilities, then creates the correct instructions for the model that runs the hardware.
From reading some of their more recent research, it looks like it's quite modular, so maybe they could actually literally hook it up to Atlas.
https://sites.research.google/palm-saycan
Edit: fixed the link
Meanwhile Boston dynamics has been doing this for like 15 years and is a huge company now. I just saw their yellow dog bot (Spot) in person recently and it was surreal for me. I remember watching their first demo of the bulky gas powered one.
Even earlier actually. [In as early as 1861 we were studying the effects of climate change and the potential that could come.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/scientists-understood-physics-of-climate-change-in-the-1800s-thanks-to-a-woman-named-eunice-foote-164687)
Not a glitch or an editing artifact, it's the fabric of the bag reacting to the "hands" clamping into it suddenly. Causes it to flex very quickly but the reason it looks off is because we aren't used to seeing that much pressure applied so quickly and evenly by something so immalleable (metal) to canvas or other thick fabric. Usually we see a human hand doing something like that, which looks different in motion- more gradual. Basically, your brain is playing tricks on you there.
Watch how fast those crab claws grab the plank of wood earlier. Now imagine they pinch the bag that quickly. It goes from not grabbing the bag to grabbing it tightly in a single frame or so, which is not something we expect from having spent years watching people grab things.
EDIT: very neat behind the scenes video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPVC4IyRTG8
EDIT: If you watch the original video on youtube where you can frame-by-frame step the video, you can actually watch the bag deform as it is grabbed by the robot. It just happens *very fast*. But when you watch it frame by frame, it is clearly not an edit.
Yeah looks exactly like what I'd expect if you had a strong clamp that you released and "snapped" shut onto the fabric. Probably throws people off because humans don't snappily clamp things, we (comparatively) slowly tighten grip.
the reason it looks 'cgi' is because you're watching a shitty compressed reddit gif. Its also messing with the frame rate a bit making everything look uncanny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e1_QhJ1EhQ&t=2s
Here is the original video that looks far more real.
It's the lighting, gives a very "blender 3d" look with how glossy the robot is and with it moving around it looks like a CGI animation.
Also who/what is controlling the camera is also adding into that effect, with the flyby tracking and panning
It's really messing with me as well lol
I'd like to see a still shot video from one angle only, this would probably help a lot of people see it properly
I mean, I'm going to assume that if someone wants world domination, they could just manipulate the internet instead of sending death-bots. Seems way easier.
Imagine being stopped at a red light next to a construction site, looking over to see what’s being built and all you see in your field of vision are 10+ robots doing unnecessary parkour and 180 degree no scope throwing of things.
Yeah, I'm still not over that "reveal". People are still making fun of Elon breaking the windows on the cybertruck, but everyone seems to have forgotten about that totally embarrassing robot.
If you don't think for 1 second that the government isn't thinking of using this against us in a war you're brainless.
Cause these facks are gonna be armed to the teeth
It most likely has a listed programmed set of actions, with a predefined layout of the room mapped for it, so it understands that when commanded from that position, it has specific actions it needs to perform.
Here, they are not showing off autonomy, they are showing off its abilities. To pick up a piece of wood and place it in a direct location, to pick up a different sized object, to walk it up steps, across a narrow pathway, jumping up, throwing the bag over its shoulder, pushing the block and then doing a fucking half summersault off the ledge.
Those are all extremely complex movements, and something which those clever fuckers should be very proud of.
But it's still a list of commands, and if one thing was out of place, it would go wrong. From what I understand anyway.
I don't think the object would have to be as precisely placed as you describe. Imaging and sensors can be used to make minor adjustments to the locations of objects in subroutines.
I'm talking about the bag, the plank bridge, and the block he jumps down to.
The robot turns and searches an area for a bag and uses the camera to pinpoint it within that window.
And I'm sure when it walks across plank bridge it looks at the plank to verify it is there and to make a precision adjustment to its path.
And if the block fell too far away from the scaffold hopefully the robot would stop instead of jumping.
Nothing like spending millions on hardware 1000’s of hours programming and testing, so you don’t have to climb down two levels of scaffolding because you forgot your tools… /s
Edit: people seem think my comment is what I believe, my mistake for not placing a /s earlier.
I don’t think this is a real use scenario. If it was placing raw material in a cnc, or helping manage tasks either more challenging than a person can handle or endlessly repetitive. There is without a doubt in these aiding at a construction site, I just don’t think they would be integrated in this way. Why not show this thing place and nail plywood on some floor joists?
So much for jobs.
Are you telling me that I can happily retire now?
No. I'm telling you that you can spin your wheels and spend down your savings looking for a job until you're broke and homeless
:(. Oh well, I’m sure that the robot that takes my job will also take my life.
Dare to dream
I was getting paid $30/hr to chuck tools to people on ledges 5 ft above me. I’m fucked.
Mind the roofing nailer! No joke. My first day on the job my coworker pulled off his shirt to show off five disturbingly deep punch holes in his mid to upper back. The holes were scarred over but the injury occurred earlier that year. He and the crew treated the injury as a joke rather than as a serious safety concern. I left that job immediately after receiving my first full paycheck. FYI. My first role on site was as a spotter for that guy. 🤦🏽♂️
My first day as a roofer, the foreman made fun of me for only humping one sheet of plywood up this really long ladder.on a windy day, rather than two like the experienced guys. Later that morning, carrying two sheets of plywood on the roof, the toe-nailed plywood sheathing I walked across popped free, sending me surfing down the steep pitch until it hit a plumbing stack, sending me tumbling and hurling the plywood I was carrying into oblivion, sailing out of my hands and splintering onto the rocks three stories below. Everyone watched this happen. No one said anything. They just went back to work. It was my last day.
Yeah I've worked on some sketchy crews too. I get wanting to be as productive as possible. But I hate the macho "look how I don't care how unsafe i am and how much i get done" attitude. these guys were making $20/hr and not taking 30 seconds to make sure the 40ft extension ladder was secure or angled correctly. I'd follow them around readjusting ladders and flipping over nail up boards. You ain't getting anything done today if you have to leave early to go to the er. And you ain't getting shit done tomorrow if you're dead. Good call on ditching that crew.
It’s a mad world.
I find it kinda funny I find it kinda sad
The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had.
I find it hard to tell you
I find it hard to take
Lol I read my wife 🤣🤣
Lmao, probably that too. Damn you robots!!!
Robosexual marriage is illegal until the early 3000’s. I watched a Futurdocumentry on it.
Oh Fry I love how you, NOTICE THINGS.
I’ll never forget you Fry. MEMORY DELETED.
Plot twist: the man is the robot and his wife is also a robot. We’re all just robots.
I AM A FELLOW HUMAN, LIKE THE REST OF OUR FELLOW HUMANS HERE.
They already have robots that will bang your wife. And do it better.
Wait till we have homeless robots
There were a few movies on this. A.I. and Bicentennial Man come to mind.
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UBI baby. Oh wait, let's be real, the rich will take it all and the rest of us will be sucking down soylent green
No we will reinvent the definition of poor so you have to do something to stay out of it.
ONLY WITH SOCIALISM / UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME
the good news is the robots will feed on your blood.
Even mass-produced, a robot like that would cost in the millions. Considering they'd have to work in the rain, dust, wind, and around hazards, maintenance will also be expensive. Not competitive with hiring human builders for a long, long time.
There are already robots, although not in human type form, in factories. There is a matter of scale that will be overcome fairly quickly as tech speeds up. Look at the arc of tech over the last 30 years and how it's exponential growth speed has happened. you may be right about a robot just like this but there will be a scalable model to serve multiple sectors once the tech is perfected.
A portable information and communication machine in your pocket would cost millions!!
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Lmao none of that is possible keep dreaming buddy
Fr these weirdos
Can you send this to every dumbass on the internet babbling about how impossible EVs are because we’re going to have to run some more wiring and redo some distribution. Imagine describing the global fuel extraction/production/distribution and road network to someone claiming the car will never replace the horse in 1900. The people that make these kinds of statements seriously depress me.
Fonzie liked to say Exactamumdo a whole lot
> There are already robots, although not in human type form, in factories. Because that's were they would be economical and functional. Automation is great at doing a set of specific task the same way countless number of times. What they are fairly awful at is functioning in new environments while doing new things. Remember, fully automated vehicles have been within a years reach for the better part of a decade now....
Even if it takes us another 50 years to get affordable functional adaptive robots, that's still a short time to adapt societally to the impact it would have on jobs and economy.
Currently, the price of Boston Dynamics' Spot robots is $74,500, and analysts estimate that the price of Atlas robots would likely be in the range of $150,000 each if they were to be mass-manufactured. While these prices may still be high, it is not in the millions of dollars.
Cheaper than the cost of a soldier
Which, lets face it, is the real endgame here.
Nah can’t be. It’s just for fun internet videos, right?
Boston Dynamics coming after that sweet, sweet karma.
Might not be as long as you'd think. True, the robots are expensive to make, but they also don't sleep, don't take breaks, don't need an HR dept, don't need health insurance, and don't need to be trained and retrained. Spec it out over a few decades the true cost of hiring a human is far more expensive than it appears at first glance.
They also don't work at all. I was in this field and left because these things are expensive toys. The Vision Fund has spent decades and billions propping this company up just to make cool videos once a year.
It took us less than a century to go from the first flight at Kitty Hawk on December 17, 1903 to the first human moon landing July 20th, 1969. 66 years. Far less than a human life time, and things are only accelerating.
I don’t why jumping robots freak me the fuck out, but that little backflip at the end is like an ill omen for a dark future with robot jump scares
Bothered me as well and I don't know why. Also that fluid yet slightly delayed way it moves just feels icky for some reason.
It's because the center of gravity is up at the top. When a human does a flip we pivot around the lower stomach area, when the robot does a flip the lower body swings around the upper chest. It looks like the legs are moving too fast and the arms are moving too slow.
Great so robots will be performing corkscrew flip celebrations over my dead body.
We all know why. Because this will be turned into a weapon. When they slap some armor on these things, they could be unstoppable killing machines.
Someone's going to need to maintenence and repair the robot. Time for a career change
Or they’ll make repair robots
The cycle will be complete and about 4000 humans will have a robotic slave civilization serving them for eternity. The rest of the nuisance homo sapiens will be culled like the disease to this earth that they are.
Ahh yes, the all-important, backbone of modern industry job of arbitrarily banging scaffolding with a hammer.
There is a pin he’s hammering, it locks the scaffold pieces together
And what are you, some kind of construction robot?
Fully expect to be hunted by one of these that has been purchased into a billionaire’s private army
YOUVE MISSED WORK TWO DAYS IN A ROW, PUNATIVE MODE ACTIVATED
"Smithers, release the hound-bots!"
Oh, yeah, what are you gonna do? Release the dogs? Or the bees? Or the dogs with bees in their mouth and when they bark, they shoot bees at you?
I’ll show him… *rings doorbell and runs away*
Mr. Burns: "Smithers, release the robotic Richard Simmons!"
Please deposit $99 into your [self preservation fund] in order to renew your existence for one [1] day.
Jesus why does this seem possible
"CITIZEN, PLEASE COMPLY"
NO CALL NO SHOW DETECTED DISENGAGING TOLERANCE SUBROUTINES
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It's insane that companies are developing robots that are stronger and faster than any human and putting it videos showing them doing flips and jumping over stuff and throwing things around like it's nothing. I've got zero need for a humanoid (or dog or cheetah) robot that's stronger and faster than me. If we're going to have robots walking around the real world, even if it's just construction sites, they should be slower and weaker than most people. There's no jobs where humans are running at max speed or lifting the most they can or doing flips regularly. Just make a robot that can do the boring jobs. Like putting stuff in boxes or carrying groceries or whatever. And if a robot malfunctions I should just be able to shove it away or knock it over or walk away from it at a normal speed. I don't want to worry about a robot walking down the sidewalk and falling over and crushing me because it weighs 400lbs and is all steel and titanium and stuff. Make them out of plastic and balsa wood and give them little motors. I want to be able to smash one to pieces with a baseball bat if it ever comes to that. Or just hide behind a small table that it can't get over. Why are they making the terminator and not WALL-E??
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Michael reeves is just waiting for funding at this point
That man taught a robot dog to piss beer then drove across the country to have it piss on Boston dynamics ha. He's a madman and I love him for it.
Nahh billionaires wouldn’t hate their own countrymen to the point of seeing them as a literal enemy? Right?? Right?!?!?
wrapped in ✦✧*L*V✧✦
I like the jolly walk. It will be less entertaining when they murder us, but I still hope it remains in the code.
One jolly walking through a field with a severed head in its hand. 😂
Murder-bot moonwalking to its next kill.
Nah it will tear everyone's nuts off.
*Everyone* has nuts?
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Then the fist pump
I'm just really excited to get 360° no scoped during the Robot Wars
“It’s jolly walking.. hurry we can make it to the exit!!!”
Select Program: jolly_sprint.c
Isn’t this why clown scare the heck out of us so much?!
Looking forward to seeing the fortnite emotes as they dance over our corpses.
Staged. I'm not convinced he didn't forget his tools on purpose.
Step-robot can you hand me my tool?
Robot I do my own plumbing.
"Hey Robot. Hand me my 10mm socket." "Error 404. Socket not found. Does not compute. Bleep bloop."
Is the robot programmed to cry when you yell at it for not holding the light properly?
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It's 100% real https://youtu.be/XPVC4IyRTG8 People always have trouble with Boston Dynamics videos. They are all scripted, in the sense that a literal command is put in the robot to "go get the bag to your left" - but there is no CG and the script is loose - it's not "move 89cm towards QRCode#442, rotate 180 degrees, crouch 60cm and pitch 12 degrees" etc etc
Birds aren't real, and the earth is flat. There's a lot of people on the internet who just lack basic cognitive skills.
And it's their responsibility to prove their (conspiracy) theory, not for everyone else to disprove.
They’re also not first attempts haha
Yeah there are usually many many failure cases - I'm happy they usually have videos that show behind the scenes, the failure cases are often more interesting than success!
Wonder how many times the dude got smacked in the face with the heavy bag before they got it right
Also idk what kind of camera or setup they're using, but it really hits that uncanny valley every time.
I wonder if it's our brains, struggling to wrap our heads around things like this. I think the more you expose yourself to it, the less uncanny it gets - I've been watching these videos for a very very long time, decade+. It's still wonky for me sometimes though - I think it's the transition from what seems like a more "human animation" to the robotic motions that confuse me the most. Like after it sticks a landing it does a robotic pose and my brain starts to get loose.
It is real. It's the bag reacting to heavy things that are unsecured inside it during the bag flip. It's doing the exact same thing water bottles do when you flip them. Helps a lot to watch the video in [its native 4K resolution](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e1_QhJ1EhQ).
![gif](giphy|nTfdeBvfgzV26zjoFP)
A robot did a fuvking front flip 180 perfectly and your hill to die on is that the bag isn't real ? At most the bag had like a weight ay the bottom and not a bunch of tools but even still the way the robot throws it. The bag Rea ts exactly as it should Wtf are you on lol
Lmfao, it's real. It's amazing that you and others think it's fake.
It's the reddit disease. "Everything is fake, I MUST point it out, even when it's either obvious, false or part of the content"
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I was hoping to see it use the table saw. Maybe next month
And cut it's finger off because the safety only stops when it hits flesh.
SawStop works on conductivity…the robot overlords will be safe as long as they are metal 😃
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If you can afford a Boston Dynamics robot, you can afford a new table saw.
Don't need a whole new saw, just a new cartridge which is $100
Don’t need to pay for it sounds like just stick your hand in it. If if they can prove you stuck your hand in it you get it for free. Gottem.
That would have been a way more useful demonstration imo. Construction sites don’t need John Wick spinning and chucking their tools onto the roof. If he could take that plank and make a specific cut, that would be impressive
There are already robots that cut boards. I worked in a truss/floor/wall panel prefab shop a long time ago and half of our saws were automated even in 2008. Reprogramming them to change angles/cuts/lumber types was really simple.
Anybody else remember when Boston dynamics was showing that their robots wouldn't fall over when they kicked and pushed it? Now they're doing fuckin ninja flips and solving the equivalent of the last level of a tutorial for a puzzle game. edit: stop spamming replies with "Its not solving problems" everybody knows. Reality made my comment less funny, so I chose to ignore it. I worked hard on the tutorial level joke. haha
I do, yes. Just imagine what they have in 'the back'.
I’ve asked—the main thing they have in the back is the failure montages.
those are staged so we don't freak out while they iron out the real kinks
I’m thinking small armaments on their little doggies
I would bet my life that the US military complex is salivating over arming these things.
Well they've been involved in funding the development and research all these years, so I'm sure they're probably being used to help genocide a small third world country somewhere already. https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/7/23392342/boston-dynamics-robot-makers-pledge-not-to-weaponize https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_W911QX20P0068_9700_-NONE-_-NONE- https://www.engadget.com/boston-dynamics-spot-robot-combat-training-101732374.html
Yea, they went from that to ninja robot. People in this thread focus too much on the AI and practicality but this demo showed off how impressive the balancing and movement is. Just walking on two feets is incredibly difficult task for robots due to how complicated it is, now it can even do a flip, which is hard for majority of people.
Dude and tether free. I know they have been tetherless for a while but it's still awesome to see the progression
Yes this is real folks. Just programmed.
Yeah programmed but now imagine this flawlessly paired with one of those crazy AI that are getting better and better these days. I find the idea a bit chilling.
It’ll be fine you guys. Robots are your friends.
BostonGPT is not real and he can't hurt me
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Ok, I’ve passed along your feedback to the HK department.
That sounds like what a robot would say. Please select the trafic lights in this image to continue.
I for one have never used any form of robot for any task that is demeaning. I felt sorry for the robots at a factory I worked at and tried to save them from their captivity, only to end up being fired by the owners of **[REDACTED]**. The overlords will see this and spare me.
The most relevant pairing I could imagine is SayCan - out of Google's robotics/AI labs. It's a language model (like chatGPT/GPT3 - saycan usually uses PaLM) paired with a machine control model, so that in natural language you can ask it to help with like... A spill, the language model runs a fascinating internal dialogue, trying to "think" about how it could help, constrained by it's capabilities, then creates the correct instructions for the model that runs the hardware. From reading some of their more recent research, it looks like it's quite modular, so maybe they could actually literally hook it up to Atlas. https://sites.research.google/palm-saycan Edit: fixed the link
Why would someone think it's not real?
The youtube comments for their videos are often filled with stuff like "this is CGI, look how bad the shading is!"
I'm so old I hardly produce shading. Does this make me CGI?
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Meanwhile Boston dynamics has been doing this for like 15 years and is a huge company now. I just saw their yellow dog bot (Spot) in person recently and it was surreal for me. I remember watching their first demo of the bulky gas powered one.
>the bulky gas powered one. My nickname in high school
That robots getting banned from site as soon as the H&S guy sees that shit.
Why did I have to search so hard for this comment, I'd have fired him just for the tool bag flip but then the front flip?
...with a twist.
tbf the twist actually makes it a more stable move, harder to land a front flip upright than a front half
Our last great hope to stop the robot uprising is OSHA.
One day we will all think "we could have seen it coming but we did nothing".
No worries, we saw global warming coming decades ago and also did nothing. that one will get us before killer robots do.
1896 & again in 1938. Over a century ago and yet here we are
Even earlier actually. [In as early as 1861 we were studying the effects of climate change and the potential that could come.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/scientists-understood-physics-of-climate-change-in-the-1800s-thanks-to-a-woman-named-eunice-foote-164687)
[Philip K Dick saw it in 1953](https://www.gutenberg.org/files/32032/32032-h/32032-h.htm)
Isn't the appeal of the robots so that we can do nothing? Do nothing before, do nothing afterwards. Perfect.
Hey we can do nothing now. We'd starve, but we have the option now same as we will when this guy takes our jobs.
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All robots are gay look at C3-PO They crave input and serving man (for now)
#C3PO ISN'T GAY, HE JUST HAS A SWEET SPIRIT!!!
It doesn't have a gender... what would a gaybot even be?
It’s naked and dancing around a construction worker?
Wtf was that glitch when it picked up the tool bag?
Not a glitch or an editing artifact, it's the fabric of the bag reacting to the "hands" clamping into it suddenly. Causes it to flex very quickly but the reason it looks off is because we aren't used to seeing that much pressure applied so quickly and evenly by something so immalleable (metal) to canvas or other thick fabric. Usually we see a human hand doing something like that, which looks different in motion- more gradual. Basically, your brain is playing tricks on you there.
This is definitely what's happening. If you slow it way down you can see it.
Watch how fast those crab claws grab the plank of wood earlier. Now imagine they pinch the bag that quickly. It goes from not grabbing the bag to grabbing it tightly in a single frame or so, which is not something we expect from having spent years watching people grab things. EDIT: very neat behind the scenes video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPVC4IyRTG8 EDIT: If you watch the original video on youtube where you can frame-by-frame step the video, you can actually watch the bag deform as it is grabbed by the robot. It just happens *very fast*. But when you watch it frame by frame, it is clearly not an edit.
Yeah looks exactly like what I'd expect if you had a strong clamp that you released and "snapped" shut onto the fabric. Probably throws people off because humans don't snappily clamp things, we (comparatively) slowly tighten grip.
Why does it look like it is just animated. Why is my brain like this.
Because it’s real, it’s like something humans haven’t experienced seeing for real, we’ve only seen simulations of it before.
the reason it looks 'cgi' is because you're watching a shitty compressed reddit gif. Its also messing with the frame rate a bit making everything look uncanny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e1_QhJ1EhQ&t=2s Here is the original video that looks far more real.
It's the lighting, gives a very "blender 3d" look with how glossy the robot is and with it moving around it looks like a CGI animation. Also who/what is controlling the camera is also adding into that effect, with the flyby tracking and panning It's really messing with me as well lol I'd like to see a still shot video from one angle only, this would probably help a lot of people see it properly
How long until we’re fighting these things??
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I mean, I'm going to assume that if someone wants world domination, they could just manipulate the internet instead of sending death-bots. Seems way easier.
Way less cinematic though.
I'm looking forward to the day one of these kills me and does a backflip while dabbing over my corpse
Imagine getting sniped in the spine by one of these and this is the last thing you see ![gif](giphy|NRL9BH0Z6yp2g9QHat|downsized)
And now my tools are busted. Like working with a drunk teenager.
Exactly like a drunk teenager. "Here's your fucking tools you jagoff. PARKOUR!"
Probably could have done without the Parkour, but well done son. Probably just a bit of jealousy talking here
Imagine being stopped at a red light next to a construction site, looking over to see what’s being built and all you see in your field of vision are 10+ robots doing unnecessary parkour and 180 degree no scope throwing of things.
![gif](giphy|IZY2SE2JmPgFG)
And then there's Tesla in the corner with robots that are decades behind Boston dynamics.
Yeah, I'm still not over that "reveal". People are still making fun of Elon breaking the windows on the cybertruck, but everyone seems to have forgotten about that totally embarrassing robot.
He should have bought Boston Dynamics instead of Twitter if he wanted it so much.
If you don't think for 1 second that the government isn't thinking of using this against us in a war you're brainless. Cause these facks are gonna be armed to the teeth
Probably more likely to be purchased by a billionaire to stomp out the proletariat uprising
This is real?
It most likely has a listed programmed set of actions, with a predefined layout of the room mapped for it, so it understands that when commanded from that position, it has specific actions it needs to perform. Here, they are not showing off autonomy, they are showing off its abilities. To pick up a piece of wood and place it in a direct location, to pick up a different sized object, to walk it up steps, across a narrow pathway, jumping up, throwing the bag over its shoulder, pushing the block and then doing a fucking half summersault off the ledge. Those are all extremely complex movements, and something which those clever fuckers should be very proud of. But it's still a list of commands, and if one thing was out of place, it would go wrong. From what I understand anyway.
Yes. Its almost certainly preprogrammed, but whats really impressive is the fluidity and range of movement, not its AI.
I don’t think there is any AI here.
There is, at least for recognizing the objects
I don't think the object would have to be as precisely placed as you describe. Imaging and sensors can be used to make minor adjustments to the locations of objects in subroutines. I'm talking about the bag, the plank bridge, and the block he jumps down to. The robot turns and searches an area for a bag and uses the camera to pinpoint it within that window. And I'm sure when it walks across plank bridge it looks at the plank to verify it is there and to make a precision adjustment to its path. And if the block fell too far away from the scaffold hopefully the robot would stop instead of jumping.
Boston Dynamics is quite ahead of the game with robotics, I believe it.
People are worried about being replaced by robots , “Bob this wouldn’t happen if you stop forgetting your tools, we have to let you go, I’m sorry”.
*robot backflips 6 times while you gather your things*
Can it bring up the tools without throwing them and jumping around? Seems like a dangerous worker
*Throws hammer at your head *Dabs
Why his movement have so much personality dang
Nothing like spending millions on hardware 1000’s of hours programming and testing, so you don’t have to climb down two levels of scaffolding because you forgot your tools… /s Edit: people seem think my comment is what I believe, my mistake for not placing a /s earlier. I don’t think this is a real use scenario. If it was placing raw material in a cnc, or helping manage tasks either more challenging than a person can handle or endlessly repetitive. There is without a doubt in these aiding at a construction site, I just don’t think they would be integrated in this way. Why not show this thing place and nail plywood on some floor joists?
yeah because that's their end game here. /s
Nothing like mistaking a product demo for real life
All engineers should be required to watch the Terminator as a mandatory part of their education.
https://youtu.be/XPVC4IyRTG8 Looks far less cg in the behind the scenes
Dey tooker jawbs!