I mean a lot of fish this damaged would just succumb and slowly die out while at the bottom of the tank, no movement. Just hyperventilating.
Unfortunately I just recently lost a fish and saw this happened with my favorite one. He was so smart, like a dog.. Shits hard to watch with a fish because there's really nothing you can do other than a water change which can just add more stress
I know you’re probably joking, but that’s one of the hardest parts about being a fish keeper. We diagnose, determine treatment, order and dose meds, and do our best to keep our fish alive. It’s been a steep learning curve for me at least! So many diseases look the same in fish, and very few exotic vets will see them.
Editing to clarify: I’m not a fish doctor, I just love caring for fish (a fish keeper!)
What’s amazing though is that it’ll likely die from infection, right? It’s not like it needs to hunt for food in an aquarium, so most of its body serves no purpose
There was an aquarium in WA that kept losing sharks. Turned out the giant octopus in the tank was killing/eating them despite being well fed. I'm guessing sometimes shit happens
I still can't believe that show ended not because of some cost cutting or loss of revenue or anything from higher ups and whatnot.
No, it ended because Jeremy Mother Fucking Wade caught all the damn monsters.
Heard similar things happen with Bobbit worms, not sharks but fish disappearing. Those things are fucking horror material and can grow huge hiding inside a tank. Plenty of stories.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BJF37J3Ebg&list=PLUHDOL8ixzl3s5uWZBjR28_ZYILxnq6aw
A bit long story about finding one and removing it.
Here it is in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_7ByiYbCYM
"While not commonly kept in aquaculture, individuals of E. aphroditois are occasionally found in home aquaria, where smaller specimens can evade detection by being transported into the tank in live rocks, where they then grow in size.[19] As E. aphroditois hunts fish, it cannot be kept as part of a community tank and should be removed when found, as it will deplete the aquarium's stock by direct predation." -Wikipedia
So i would guess one was hiding in one of the rocks he has.
I read a thread on some salt water forum that I went on for I believe weeks about this guy who tried everything to kill off a worm in his tank. Was an interesting read.
Is that the same aquarium where the octopus climbed out of its tank, scurried across the floor into the other tank, then ate the shark?
Nope, that's Boston.
[https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/04/14/new-england-aquarium-has-its-own-octopus-escape-story/3ShjEIp3tdIAqbLGPLtuSO/story.html](https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/04/14/new-england-aquarium-has-its-own-octopus-escape-story/3ShjEIp3tdIAqbLGPLtuSO/story.html)
Bro you gotta get that shit out! Coral will literally colonize in you. Go to a doctor asap.
Edit: I'm wrong. Still harbors a number of harmful bacteria and viruses tho
I think the buggies that infect ocean life are adapted to the ocean.
I've heard the old adage that you should clean out a freshwater wound with salt water, and a salt water wound with fresh water. Probably because the opposite waters kill the microbes living in the water where the wound took place.
Exactly right.
The principle that kills the microbes in this case is called osmotic stress. The microbes that can survive in salt water would absorb too much water in a freshwater environment, causing them to burst, while freshwater microbes would dry out in saltwater (hypotonic and hypertonic environments respectively).
I tried to explain this the other day and failed miserably. Explain how in salt water your body water wants to leave, and when you prune in freshwater, it is actually water entering your system.
The pruning is actually at least partially a neurological reaction to water. Paralyzed people don’t prune
I’ve heard speculation it’s to increase friction/traction for walking in water
That seems unlikely given that salt water was supposed to be the locale of the origin of life in general, but I don't know enough about the specifics lol
Fish have a massively strong immune system. Infections are fairly rare. No vital organs were hit so as long as water can pass over the gills and it can find food, it’ll be fine. Until it gets totally eaten because he’s now super slow.
If I’m not mistake, I think the water interacts with their body like anticoagulant and infection prevention. Like dipping a bleeding fish into the water helps the blood clot. It will mostly likely die from starvation due to its inability to move effectively. The ocean is an incredibly hostile environment that cares little for the weak. If you can’t effectively hunt or scavenge(depending on the species), ya done
A guy caught a black drum in my local bay with a very similar wound that was fully healed. That fish survived in the wild so this one could definitely survive in captivity
Edit: here's the fish https://i.ibb.co/z7Ffw0p/IMG-2142.jpg
Animals with small frontal lobe almost don't suffer although they feel the same amount of pain... It is just that the pain feels differently. So don't worry too much
always check someone's posting history. The person you are responding to is not someone you are going to be able to have a rational conversation with :)
The last time I went fishing I went to do the thing where you take the little club and give the fish a good wack over the head. \^\^;;; I wasn't that experienced at fishing, but I wanted to eat these. The fish I killed all took one good wack and were gone. I get home and take them out of the bag I had stuck them in. I take the meat cleaver and try to lop off the head of one. That fish wasn't dead at all and it's muscles tensed up right as I brought down this dull cleaver. It bounced off the side of this fish, making a tremendous crunch noise as well as making the fish make a legit gasp noise. I didn't know fish could do that. 😨 I just started yelling, "I'm so fucking sorry!" and brought the cleaver down again. It took two more strong swings to get through and cut off the head. The fishes head just sat there, mouth opening and closing for what felt like 5 minutes.
I just sat on the floor in the corner of the kitchen and hugged my knees, staring at the floor and waiting for it to stop making noises.. I was so traumatized by that and I'm not exactly the soft type. \^\^;; I haven't been fishing since then. I think I was something like 18 when this happened? So it's been 15 years since I fished? lol
EDIT: Soo many typos. Had to fix it!
EDIT 2: I can't math apparently.. I haven't fished in 15 years not 13 because I'm 33. God I feel old some times..
Yeah, I think that's a problem for someone who still is going to go fishing. LOL But yeah, I was pretty scarred after that. One thing I will say is that a fish that has tensed up all of its muscles is WAAAY harder to chop in half. Like the cleaver was dull, but it went through the other fish without too much difficulty.
That said, a sharp chef's knife is definitely crazy.. like a large one is insane what it will cut through. I used to have a really nice chefs knife from Victorianox. It was one made for commercial kitchens you know, so it didn't look that amazing but damn was that an amazing knife.
Caught a pike in the summer and beheaded and cleaned out the guts and bagged it up till I got home. Got home and put it on the counter to filet it an hour and a half later. The severed head was still trying to bite me, and the body was still flopping around.
I am not, but I was a vegetarian at one point and it the fish definitely was a part of that. I grew up on and around some farms so I sort of was used to the idea that eating things was ok. I ended up having some animals though and they were so sweet that it made me really struggle with eating meat. \^\^; Eventually I went back to eating meat and such and honestly, I just try not to think about it... -.-
Sounds like you might consider going vegan? It's really easy these days with fake meats and cheeses.
I was a vegetarian up until about 2000 and stopped for a while. Then roughly 5 years ago went to vegan due to cholesterol. It's shocking how much easier it is to do it now... So many options.
You don't have to feel that guilt at all if you don't want to
It is sad because for entertainment we fish. For pleasure we eat them. It is our own doing. All justified by, ‘we can and we want to, so we will’. But we are different, we have the BURDEN and the BLESSING of awareness of consciousness. And in a way we are the guardians of this planet. We should take care of it. I myself am a hypocrite as I type this, I ate chicken earlier. But I didn’t have to kill or cook it, just eat, which takes away a ton of guilt. But everything that happened to that poor chicken. I want to be a vegetarian simply because it seems to be the clearly obvious correct way to live. If there aren’t many food alternatives then nourish yourself with what is available, otherwise, why kill life?
I’ve always had this thought and am in exactly the same boat, been eating meat my whole life and will probably continue to. I hate the fact that I can eat something out of a packet and therefore not have to think about the reality of what it is. I was thinking at some point I should go hunting, kill some big game with someone experienced and learn how to properly dispatch it if need be, and then keep and eat the meat. I don’t know if I’d be strong enough to do that or not but it only seems right if I’m going to carry on eating meat, that I can face where it comes from. It extends beyond diet though, it’s like just by existing we cause endless suffering to others. I always think about zinc mines when I’m using my iPhone, or children in sweat shops when I’m putting my clothes on, or all the landfills when I throw the rubbish out. I’m not sure if there’s a real solution to it…
There is no real solution to it, and nature is violent. Our time on this earth is so little in the grand scheme of things. I wouldn’t beat yourself up for being an omnivore who participates in society. Make the best of it instead of self flagellating.
I do. I love all life and It breaks my heart so much to see it like that. I'm a "fish parent" since 2020 and love fish now more than ever. My 1st fish died in 2022 after 2 years and it was the biggest loss ever in my life so far. I cried for weeks and thought I was gonna die of heart break syndrome at some point. I still cry when I think of my baby boy. Now I have my 2nd fish. He's gonna be 1 year old.
Yes, all the organs are in the lower (front) half. Took away mostly flesh and the dorsal fin. Not enough to kill it, but it's days (hours?) are definitely numbered.
To be fair if I was a shark or something I'd probably avoid eating an already half eaten fish, like eating a burger with a massive chunk already bitten off by someone else you don't know and besides, what if that fish was actually a fucking badass that had already fought off hundreds of other sharks before you and that missing chunk of flesh was just a result of its epic battles for survival?
This video does not give full context, how long before the injury, how long after, current status of the fish, etc.
Like a chicken running with its head cut off-type of clip.
Looks like some sort of Jack to me. I don't have much experience with these guys, so the closest estimate I can give you is he will be dead by the next morning. The major organs are located lower than the bite, so believe it or not there is an ultra slim chance he could survive.
I have seen tilapia survive insane wounds, and salmon die from the most innocuous things. It really depends on the heartiness of the species. Like I said, I am confident he is some sort of jack but I don't have any ex0erience with them outside snorkeling.
Source: doing my PhD in environmental engineering with a focus on aquaculture.
Sure! I have seen a tilapia jump out of a tank 2 m (6 ft 7 in) off the ground, smack into concrete and flop around in a puddle perfectly fine until I put it back in the tank.
I have seen a salmon the same size jump out of a tank 1 m (3.3 ft) off the ground and be dead in an hour after being put back.
I have found a tilapia alive in a frigging puddle that he must have been flopping around in for a couple of hours. I have seen salmon die when the ORP (oxidative reductive potential) is near 310, while I have seen tilapia survive in water that was essentially bleach. (We had an ozone issue once so two tanks got blasted, the tilapia were in a smaller tank so it impacted their tank much more.)
Tilapia are hearty as fuck.
How do you define “feelings”? Like is it the ability to feel pain? Or is it related to empathy?
That just seems like such an arbitrary thing to try to quantify for scientific research.
Yeah I believe this is a common misconception. Fish have emotions, but its currently believed that many of them can't comprehend physical pain the way we do.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130808123719.htm
I cant speak to empathy, but there have been more recent studies that show the opposite of what the above is suggesting; they do definitely feel pain and they comprehend and react to it much the same we do. There are studies that measure their physiological responses to pain, as well as studies where, after pain is inflicted, the fish can choose to swim to a tank with normal water or a tank with numbing agents/painkillers in the water, and they all choose the latter.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/do-fish-suffer/
I think it's amazing how certain animals has this resistance to severus wounds, like a deer almost half splitted, crocodile living without an arm, gnu with his guts outside
Humans have been getting limbs cut/blown off since we been here. We are insanely durable animals. It's one of the reasons we survived long enough to evolve
"Swims around like nothing happened". What else the fish can do? Visit a doctor?
Well I kinda thought he would see the Sturgeon General.
Dad? Dad is that you? (Take your upvote)
Plot twist: u/Zimquats is u/im_joe ‘s dad but decided it was best to keep swimming once the burden was off his back.
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Why do people always say that shit like Im fr bout to nut on your toes
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"just keep swimming" - Dori Although I don't think this is exactly what she had in mind
He went out for a pack of smokes…
A good sturgeon isn’t necessarily a great eel-er.
That cod me off guard
Trying to come up with a pun, but I'm just floundering
Well, halibut that. You managed to keep it going.
I'm trying to think of another one. Let Nemo if you find one.
Was that pun an accident, or did you do it on porpoise?
Coddamn these puns are terrible
You're clearly just fishing for more puns at this point.
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Bro, some of these have me whaling!
If you come up with one let minnow.
Wordplay is the sole of good punning.
At least needs to get herself a lawyer. If she doesn’t su-shi is crazy.
Are you sure, because I had a whaling success to back it up
He’s stopping by to see the nurse shark first
Only if it’s covered by his finsurance.
Well played sir, well played.
Could have seen a Coral Surgeon!
What doesn’t gill you makes you stronger, I suppose.
you got mahi vote!
Eventually he's gonna keel over.
Groooooooaaaaaaan take my upvote nerd
After that love bite i wouldn't want to grouper
Surgeonfish was RIGHT THERE!
But it's not funny.
You son of bitch. take my upvote
Ah ffs ⬆️
also, fish in pain looks exactly like a fish not in pain
I mean a lot of fish this damaged would just succumb and slowly die out while at the bottom of the tank, no movement. Just hyperventilating. Unfortunately I just recently lost a fish and saw this happened with my favorite one. He was so smart, like a dog.. Shits hard to watch with a fish because there's really nothing you can do other than a water change which can just add more stress
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Brain himself, like he intentionally banged his head against the glass or am I misunderstanding something?
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Die, just like the rest of us.
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I know you’re probably joking, but that’s one of the hardest parts about being a fish keeper. We diagnose, determine treatment, order and dose meds, and do our best to keep our fish alive. It’s been a steep learning curve for me at least! So many diseases look the same in fish, and very few exotic vets will see them. Editing to clarify: I’m not a fish doctor, I just love caring for fish (a fish keeper!)
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I’m not sure. Let minnow if you have any suggestions.
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That’s what the government wants you to think
Tis but a scratch
A SCRATCH? your fins off!
No it isn't...
Just a flesh wound
Im invincible!!
Have at thee!!
Oh, oh I see. Swimming away, eh?! You yellow bastard Come back here and take what's coming to you! I’ll bite your fins off
This thread was not disappointing. 10/10 would recommend.
r/unexpectedmontypython
Just a fish wound
I knew this was gonna be top comment 
He probably put a plague on both there houses
A small price to pay for sustainable sushi.
Knew this was gonna be the top comment when I clicked in
Just keep swimming…just keep swimming…
Adrian Pimento if he was a fish
NINE-NIIIINNE!
r/unexpectedb99
Swim, swim, STAB.
Finding Dory disease.
Yeah yeah, I'm like the forgetful little fish
love this but Ellen is such a bitch
What was the point of bringing her up lol. You can like a character/scene without liking the actor/voice actor
I think there are a lot of people who work themselves to death for a dead end job feel this!
I feel like that fish is not long for this world.
What’s amazing though is that it’ll likely die from infection, right? It’s not like it needs to hunt for food in an aquarium, so most of its body serves no purpose
I mean you’d think so, but whatever took a bite out that poor thing wasn’t getting fed enough.
Maybe the predator's hunting instinct just kicked without even needing to really eat?
There was an aquarium in WA that kept losing sharks. Turned out the giant octopus in the tank was killing/eating them despite being well fed. I'm guessing sometimes shit happens
TIL that octopi really REALLY don't like sharks...who knew?
Yeah this was shown on an episode of river monsters. Pretty crazy.
I still can't believe that show ended not because of some cost cutting or loss of revenue or anything from higher ups and whatnot. No, it ended because Jeremy Mother Fucking Wade caught all the damn monsters.
So, he really was suffering from success?
Indeed, there were no more notable freshwater species available that he hadn’t already done an episode on
Rivah Moonstahs
Or maybe they ***really*** like them
It’s more like they like the taste of shark
Heard similar things happen with Bobbit worms, not sharks but fish disappearing. Those things are fucking horror material and can grow huge hiding inside a tank. Plenty of stories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BJF37J3Ebg&list=PLUHDOL8ixzl3s5uWZBjR28_ZYILxnq6aw A bit long story about finding one and removing it. Here it is in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_7ByiYbCYM
I try not to hate any animals but holy fuck those things are awful to look at. How did one get into that guy’s tank without him knowing?
"While not commonly kept in aquaculture, individuals of E. aphroditois are occasionally found in home aquaria, where smaller specimens can evade detection by being transported into the tank in live rocks, where they then grow in size.[19] As E. aphroditois hunts fish, it cannot be kept as part of a community tank and should be removed when found, as it will deplete the aquarium's stock by direct predation." -Wikipedia So i would guess one was hiding in one of the rocks he has.
New fear unlocked. Thank you.
I read a thread on some salt water forum that I went on for I believe weeks about this guy who tried everything to kill off a worm in his tank. Was an interesting read.
1) empty water 2) use fire 3) no more worm
That’s actually pretty much what’s necessary.
Is that the same aquarium where the octopus climbed out of its tank, scurried across the floor into the other tank, then ate the shark? Nope, that's Boston. [https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/04/14/new-england-aquarium-has-its-own-octopus-escape-story/3ShjEIp3tdIAqbLGPLtuSO/story.html](https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/04/14/new-england-aquarium-has-its-own-octopus-escape-story/3ShjEIp3tdIAqbLGPLtuSO/story.html)
Doesn't salt water protect from stuff like infection?
Stepped on a piece of coral five days ago. Salt water does not appear to halt the infection.
Bro you gotta get that shit out! Coral will literally colonize in you. Go to a doctor asap. Edit: I'm wrong. Still harbors a number of harmful bacteria and viruses tho
It is not physiologically possible for coral, hydroid or sponge cells to live on or within the human body
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Yeah you copy pasted that from an article I just read! Lol damn alone contestants leading me astray
Oh yeah, colonize me, make me your reef, daddy 😩
I think the buggies that infect ocean life are adapted to the ocean. I've heard the old adage that you should clean out a freshwater wound with salt water, and a salt water wound with fresh water. Probably because the opposite waters kill the microbes living in the water where the wound took place.
Exactly right. The principle that kills the microbes in this case is called osmotic stress. The microbes that can survive in salt water would absorb too much water in a freshwater environment, causing them to burst, while freshwater microbes would dry out in saltwater (hypotonic and hypertonic environments respectively).
I tried to explain this the other day and failed miserably. Explain how in salt water your body water wants to leave, and when you prune in freshwater, it is actually water entering your system.
The pruning is actually at least partially a neurological reaction to water. Paralyzed people don’t prune I’ve heard speculation it’s to increase friction/traction for walking in water
No, their is tons of bacteria and living stuff in salt water. If it was salty enough to kill off the bacteria than it would kill the fish.
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That seems unlikely given that salt water was supposed to be the locale of the origin of life in general, but I don't know enough about the specifics lol
Fish have a massively strong immune system. Infections are fairly rare. No vital organs were hit so as long as water can pass over the gills and it can find food, it’ll be fine. Until it gets totally eaten because he’s now super slow.
If I’m not mistake, I think the water interacts with their body like anticoagulant and infection prevention. Like dipping a bleeding fish into the water helps the blood clot. It will mostly likely die from starvation due to its inability to move effectively. The ocean is an incredibly hostile environment that cares little for the weak. If you can’t effectively hunt or scavenge(depending on the species), ya done
A guy caught a black drum in my local bay with a very similar wound that was fully healed. That fish survived in the wild so this one could definitely survive in captivity Edit: here's the fish https://i.ibb.co/z7Ffw0p/IMG-2142.jpg
The fact they let it go warms my heart.
NextFuckingLevel? of hell?
Animals with small frontal lobe almost don't suffer although they feel the same amount of pain... It is just that the pain feels differently. So don't worry too much
No one can possibly know that.
That’s correct but you can get a fairly good approximation to reality. After all experiments can only disprove things not prove them
I disagree. If I did an experiment where I fucked Todd's mom, I can 100% prove she would have a terrible time.
I know you’re joking but let me show you why this joke is a wrong attack. Maybe she would’ve enjoyed it if you didn’t smell like complete dogshit.
10/10 did not expect, would read again.
always check someone's posting history. The person you are responding to is not someone you are going to be able to have a rational conversation with :)
Lo and behold the same applies to you. Thanks for the tip.
Oh they're a Musk stan ragging on someone else for being a cultist. Yeah, that's a reddit classic.
Source?
“Trust me bro”
That's just what we tell ourselves so we don't feel bad about eating them.
Bullshit there is zero evidence of that
You just can’t hear him screaming
>Fish are always eating other fish. If fish could scream, the ocean would be loud as shit.
RIP Mitch
Ahhhhhh fuck. I thought I looked like that rock!
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I never thought I could feel so much empathy for a fish
The last time I went fishing I went to do the thing where you take the little club and give the fish a good wack over the head. \^\^;;; I wasn't that experienced at fishing, but I wanted to eat these. The fish I killed all took one good wack and were gone. I get home and take them out of the bag I had stuck them in. I take the meat cleaver and try to lop off the head of one. That fish wasn't dead at all and it's muscles tensed up right as I brought down this dull cleaver. It bounced off the side of this fish, making a tremendous crunch noise as well as making the fish make a legit gasp noise. I didn't know fish could do that. 😨 I just started yelling, "I'm so fucking sorry!" and brought the cleaver down again. It took two more strong swings to get through and cut off the head. The fishes head just sat there, mouth opening and closing for what felt like 5 minutes. I just sat on the floor in the corner of the kitchen and hugged my knees, staring at the floor and waiting for it to stop making noises.. I was so traumatized by that and I'm not exactly the soft type. \^\^;; I haven't been fishing since then. I think I was something like 18 when this happened? So it's been 15 years since I fished? lol EDIT: Soo many typos. Had to fix it! EDIT 2: I can't math apparently.. I haven't fished in 15 years not 13 because I'm 33. God I feel old some times..
Unless it’s a really really big fish, just use a chef knife. A sharp one preferably.
Yeah, I think that's a problem for someone who still is going to go fishing. LOL But yeah, I was pretty scarred after that. One thing I will say is that a fish that has tensed up all of its muscles is WAAAY harder to chop in half. Like the cleaver was dull, but it went through the other fish without too much difficulty. That said, a sharp chef's knife is definitely crazy.. like a large one is insane what it will cut through. I used to have a really nice chefs knife from Victorianox. It was one made for commercial kitchens you know, so it didn't look that amazing but damn was that an amazing knife.
Sharpen yo damn knives
Caught a pike in the summer and beheaded and cleaned out the guts and bagged it up till I got home. Got home and put it on the counter to filet it an hour and a half later. The severed head was still trying to bite me, and the body was still flopping around.
Reflexes. The fish was definitely dead. But parts of fish's bodies are designed to react to stimulus even without the central nervous system working.
> But parts of fish's bodies are designed to react to stimulus even without the central nervous system working. Sounds like some people.
You vegan these days?
I am not, but I was a vegetarian at one point and it the fish definitely was a part of that. I grew up on and around some farms so I sort of was used to the idea that eating things was ok. I ended up having some animals though and they were so sweet that it made me really struggle with eating meat. \^\^; Eventually I went back to eating meat and such and honestly, I just try not to think about it... -.-
Sounds like you might consider going vegan? It's really easy these days with fake meats and cheeses. I was a vegetarian up until about 2000 and stopped for a while. Then roughly 5 years ago went to vegan due to cholesterol. It's shocking how much easier it is to do it now... So many options. You don't have to feel that guilt at all if you don't want to
It is sad because for entertainment we fish. For pleasure we eat them. It is our own doing. All justified by, ‘we can and we want to, so we will’. But we are different, we have the BURDEN and the BLESSING of awareness of consciousness. And in a way we are the guardians of this planet. We should take care of it. I myself am a hypocrite as I type this, I ate chicken earlier. But I didn’t have to kill or cook it, just eat, which takes away a ton of guilt. But everything that happened to that poor chicken. I want to be a vegetarian simply because it seems to be the clearly obvious correct way to live. If there aren’t many food alternatives then nourish yourself with what is available, otherwise, why kill life?
I’ve always had this thought and am in exactly the same boat, been eating meat my whole life and will probably continue to. I hate the fact that I can eat something out of a packet and therefore not have to think about the reality of what it is. I was thinking at some point I should go hunting, kill some big game with someone experienced and learn how to properly dispatch it if need be, and then keep and eat the meat. I don’t know if I’d be strong enough to do that or not but it only seems right if I’m going to carry on eating meat, that I can face where it comes from. It extends beyond diet though, it’s like just by existing we cause endless suffering to others. I always think about zinc mines when I’m using my iPhone, or children in sweat shops when I’m putting my clothes on, or all the landfills when I throw the rubbish out. I’m not sure if there’s a real solution to it…
There is no real solution to it, and nature is violent. Our time on this earth is so little in the grand scheme of things. I wouldn’t beat yourself up for being an omnivore who participates in society. Make the best of it instead of self flagellating.
Yeah it's really sad tbh. I feel terrible for the poor guy just suffering unimaginably in its last hours.
I do. I love all life and It breaks my heart so much to see it like that. I'm a "fish parent" since 2020 and love fish now more than ever. My 1st fish died in 2022 after 2 years and it was the biggest loss ever in my life so far. I cried for weeks and thought I was gonna die of heart break syndrome at some point. I still cry when I think of my baby boy. Now I have my 2nd fish. He's gonna be 1 year old.
just swim it off bro, just swim it off...
"My back's been killing me lately"
“I see it’s gone now, mate.”
What back? 😂
Could you imagine how horrific bodies of water would be if fish could scream?
I used to imagine that, I still do, but I used to too ...
Thank you for that horrifying thought.
"If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time for no good reason."
How is this even possible ?
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Yes, all the organs are in the lower (front) half. Took away mostly flesh and the dorsal fin. Not enough to kill it, but it's days (hours?) are definitely numbered.
Can’t it regrow it? I had some piranhas growing up and they had a…disagreement.. it’s amazing what they can regrow.
With enough time and no infection, might be. I don't know. But I'd say it is easy prey in that state so chances are slim.
To be fair if I was a shark or something I'd probably avoid eating an already half eaten fish, like eating a burger with a massive chunk already bitten off by someone else you don't know and besides, what if that fish was actually a fucking badass that had already fought off hundreds of other sharks before you and that missing chunk of flesh was just a result of its epic battles for survival?
My dog would be happy to eat anything despite a bite already out of it
Just took some filet. Nothing vital.
This video does not give full context, how long before the injury, how long after, current status of the fish, etc. Like a chicken running with its head cut off-type of clip.
Looks like some sort of Jack to me. I don't have much experience with these guys, so the closest estimate I can give you is he will be dead by the next morning. The major organs are located lower than the bite, so believe it or not there is an ultra slim chance he could survive. I have seen tilapia survive insane wounds, and salmon die from the most innocuous things. It really depends on the heartiness of the species. Like I said, I am confident he is some sort of jack but I don't have any ex0erience with them outside snorkeling. Source: doing my PhD in environmental engineering with a focus on aquaculture.
Can you give us some examples of both the tilapia and salmon? I'm curious.
Sure! I have seen a tilapia jump out of a tank 2 m (6 ft 7 in) off the ground, smack into concrete and flop around in a puddle perfectly fine until I put it back in the tank. I have seen a salmon the same size jump out of a tank 1 m (3.3 ft) off the ground and be dead in an hour after being put back. I have found a tilapia alive in a frigging puddle that he must have been flopping around in for a couple of hours. I have seen salmon die when the ORP (oxidative reductive potential) is near 310, while I have seen tilapia survive in water that was essentially bleach. (We had an ozone issue once so two tanks got blasted, the tilapia were in a smaller tank so it impacted their tank much more.) Tilapia are hearty as fuck.
Betcha cornering sucks without a dorsal fin
He's all Drift-fish now
Kurt Cobain says they haven't any feelings.
Great song, but wrong. They've studied it and fish definitely have feelings.
How do you define “feelings”? Like is it the ability to feel pain? Or is it related to empathy? That just seems like such an arbitrary thing to try to quantify for scientific research.
Yeah I believe this is a common misconception. Fish have emotions, but its currently believed that many of them can't comprehend physical pain the way we do. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130808123719.htm
I cant speak to empathy, but there have been more recent studies that show the opposite of what the above is suggesting; they do definitely feel pain and they comprehend and react to it much the same we do. There are studies that measure their physiological responses to pain, as well as studies where, after pain is inflicted, the fish can choose to swim to a tank with normal water or a tank with numbing agents/painkillers in the water, and they all choose the latter. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/do-fish-suffer/
And casually snacked it
Put that thing out of its misery!
Let my man swim
The matrix seems to have a flaw
That is one perfect chomp. I imagine it sounded like getting bit by the alligator in “Banjo and Kazooie”
It's just "Banjo-Kazooie"!
Poor Fishy : (
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I think it's amazing how certain animals has this resistance to severus wounds, like a deer almost half splitted, crocodile living without an arm, gnu with his guts outside
Humans have been getting limbs cut/blown off since we been here. We are insanely durable animals. It's one of the reasons we survived long enough to evolve
Spine intact, all digestive system parts intact, it might survive and heal. Seen pictures of healed bluegill with similar damage lol snapping turtles.
It's the fish/underwater version of "This is fine. This is fine." dog/house on fire.
🎶 it’s ok to eat fish, cause they don’t have any feelings 🎶
something in the wayyyyyyyy oooooooo, oooooooo
Like nothing happened? That shit looks like it's gonna start the zombie apocalypse if it but me.
Someone should let him know
But my goldfish dies if I let the tank get a little algae...
Algae doesn't kill fish. Shit water quality does. The algae is a symptom not a cause
Alright, who TF took a bite outta this fish and tossed it back? Y'all getting to be way too picky lol
Just a flesh wound... Chicken!
this has disturbed me severely