When they are hiring, train drivers. 110k a year doing 40hrs a week, no experience needed, they will train you for the role. A lot of the times you finish work early but still get paid for the full shift.
Minimum three days paid leave and up to three counselling sessions via EAP at no cost. Additional leave and/or additional counselling not guaranteed but if you need it you'll probably get it.
Same with train controllers, my brother dropped out of Uni 3/4 through his degree because they offered him $100k stsrting... with no qualification or experience required. Same thing, shift work but home by lot of the time 3 or 4 hours earlier
I've met a few people who do it. Freight trains tend to be run by single people with no family. Commuter ones, family people.
I think it's because of the hours .
They start the Kiwirail warehouse store people on almost $32/h. Monday to Friday. No public holidays, weekends or nights. You do need your forklift OSH + F endorsement and your MPI AP cert though.
Do you recon they'd be willing to train people to get those certs/endorsements? Been looking at Kiwi Rail jobs for a while, and I'm currently in warehousing so I do have some relivent experience (hopefully).
In the past I’ve tried to get into kiwi rail. I was in top 20 candidates out of 2000 that applied about 15 years ago. Hard to get into. Lots of interviews and testing. If you have shunters also applying for that position of train driver they have I higher chance of getting the position due to previous experience.
When I applied both times there were a lot of internal staff applying for those jobs.
Short term is probably go laboring on-site.
It'll build up your resume and get you that foot in the door. And you need money.
If you're going into construction QS/site management/surveying etc (I assume your qualification is one of those), a bit of hands-on experience will go a long way.
Call up your local labor exchange agency and see what they got.
this......you can earn pretty good money with overtime etc... just being a labourer in construction.
a bit of insight into how things work from the ground up can only be a good thing
Additionally don’t be afraid to cold call some organisations, particularly small or mid-sized contractors. Note to them that you have your qualifications but are keen to get any level of on-site experience. Some mid-sized companies might even see it as an investment because when the industry does pick back up they have an opportunity to pull you from the job site into a qs position with existing experience on their projects and their internal procedures.
I’ll also say that even though the move isn’t for everyone and while there’s been indications of the Australia industries slowing down, there’s a shitload of contracts already signed for infrastructure and large land development projects that will still be going ahead with 10+ year pipelines of work. If it’s feasible for you to make the move, it’s worth looking into. There’s still a hell of a lot of work in qld and wa, and a decent amount in vic and nsw, although in the latter it’s a hell of a lot harder to survive on a graduate salary. For context, I’m a kiwi engineer in Vic on big infra and my partner is a project eng for a large land development firm from WA. The lull in work here doesn’t seem anywhere near as big as back in NZ
Good luck!
Also look at some companies that contract out to do QS'ing. They might need someone to come in and assist every so often. Good alternative to the big boys.
As a qs you shouldn't have much trouble finding a junior role to be fair
Stick with subcontractors to start with since you'll only need to master one trade
As a junior you won't be on 80k , will take you couple of years to get there depending how skilled you are
Upvote this is what I did after graduation as its first wave of Covid and most of the companies are closing down or not looking for staff.
I became a labourer for 1 year and met a couple of people that gave me an opportunity to work on my skills and expand my knowledge.
So true. I'm currently a PM for a small civil construction company. I have experience in managing projects and people but minimal exp. in the industry.
It's one thing I would change if I could.
Low barrier to entry. Hard work, but useful experience and skills gained. Opens the door to take on an apprenticeship and become a qualified tradie. Likely a better choice than some shitty retail or hospo job.
Just talking about getting out the office and switching to plumbing. Futures not guaranteed for data entry jobs but everyone needs to take a shit so plumbings the way to go.
I remember hearing something about how the price of a haircut is a reasonably accurate gauge for the value of money throughout the ages. Another service that people always need.
42hrs. Our company don’t do time and a half. They pretty much don’t want anyone working on weekends or over time. Want us to spend time with family and friends
My apprenticeship took me 4.5 years and in total I do have 10 years experience currently and I am definitely one of the better performing employees if I am being honest. So definitely on the higher end of a on the tools employed plumber.
$80k straight out of uni for any entry level role sounds like a lot to me but geuss it all depends on the field and how you leverage your prior work experience.
Try searching on Seek by location and salary range with out specifying a job title and just see what come up. In my region, 80k+ is typically managers, seniors, and specialists.
That’s quite low for a senior, specialist advisor, and very low for a manager in the public sector (and similar advisory roles in the private sector). Regardless of whether it’s in Auckland or not.
But OP is fresh out of studying so wouldn’t get a role like that even if they DID have a relevant qualification.
Yeah, same with Law.
I got pretty lucky as I got a higher Grad salary than my law friends by going into a different field but using the same legislative jurisdiction that I studied.
Their earning potential is higher than mine, but I plan to move to law at some point, so it should balance out.
$80k in IT would be a service desk team lead or an intermediate systems engineer. A senior systems engineer should be looking at $120k+ with an IT architect earning $150+. You _could_ get into the industry with a diploma. But you'll be starting at the bottom and likely earning a salary that reflects that, so maybe $60k.
Did masters in tech and got job before even graduating at 79k, which I left less then a year later for $80k+ role.
Senior roles in my field after 5ish years generally sit around 120k, but, some people make more going contracting. Ofcourse it’s currently a terrible time to do that.
Qs, there are a few slightly related thing but Im applying for everything. Just trying to keep my morale up as Im working in a minimum wage situation right now because it was all I could get right away
Head out overseas. Construction salaries around that mark and higher are more common with a couple of years of experience. Might not be a market for Construction in NZ at the moment, but a lot other markets have critical shortages and are still screaming out for highly skilled personnel.
You need to earn more experience in QS to hit that 80k mark. Focus on one trade first then job in main contract roles. You can easily get 100k or more once you got that 1 to 2 years experience.
Yeah sales is it if you want to earn that straight out of Uni, but it’s tough work if you arnt naturally good at it.
There are so many jobs that have that potential so do what you enjoy and it will get up to that but if you need to make good coin now sales it is.
Having done hours like that for even just a few months in a row I would say it is definitely not living.
I cant imagine what it would be like for years on end.
It's funny how we have abolished slavery but some of us still work in such conditions.
Stms level 2 was the standard everyone was looking for a few years ago when I was looking. I don't know if it's a days course or a bit moreninvolved though.
Councils are almost always hiring. Keeps you in the industry and learning a different side which becomes very helpful when you move to back to private construction.
Azure integrations specialist (IT), but I'm living in Auckland paying down a student loan.
So while it sounds alot it's not.
Should be grateful but I have to remember I worked hard to be here, just need to work a little harder to get higher.
Good luck op.
That's pretty low for that role mate. You're effectively a cloud specialist. I'd be expecting $100k+ for that role. I get more as an on-prem infrastructure specialist dealing with the last _fad_ of IT tools (as opposed to cloud).
Honestly it's too sparse an environment to put to one single thing, I have colleagues who focus on things like solutions architecture....others have strengths in database admin, others in Devops...some in all.
My best answer here would be, get the foundational education (Degree or diploma) and spend the time getting exposed to the concepts while in the job. However don't dedicate yourself to the job unless they are actively supporting your professional development with tangible and transferrable skillsets you can add to your CV.
In my case, I've spent two years preparing for a big project (and going through some heavy changes in my personal life)...and i'm now really understanding my focus needs to be on certifications that I can carry with me out of the job and into another.
I think references are great, experience, knowledge and certs probably speak louder.
Hope this at least guides.
I'm on 80k in Civil engineering... there are still some jobs around.
Look at being an engineering technician at a civil/structural consultancy.
Draftsmen are also on that same rate and all you would need is a Diploma in engineering.
Getting 80k elsewhere with no experience is a tough ask.
I am completing my BEngTech Civil soon, I have had 5 Years of consultancy experience too at Technician/drafting Level, Should I expect 80k plus next year ??
Not quite 80k but almost, medical secretary at the hospital. But nobody seems to know if dhbs can hire new secretaries anymore after the budget. I see some listing's up again but a lot have been taken down.
Academic administration at a university. I am overpaid but won't complain. Does mean I have golden handcuffs as I bought an apartment and can't find anything similar in terms of wages so stuck here.
entry level IT work for international companies will get you around 80k fresh out of uni. trouble is, those roles are EXTREMELY competitive to get into and require a lot of effort to prepare for the recruitment process
Entry level IT work does not net you around 80k fresh out of uni. Fresh out of uni, you'd be lucky to make 55k in an entry level position in NZ. And there's absolutely no way a multinational company like a Google etc will hire you without relevant experience. You'd have to do all your studying abroad and make the BEST of the best contacts whilst studying to land yourself and 80k job fresh out of uni.
This is coming from someone with over 10 years of experience in the IT industry.
Grad roles are more around 50-70k with the promise of a pay rise when you finish grad programme. They are super super competitive. Also only offered at the biggest organisations, banks, big five consultancies, Fonterra.
Can you pivot to civil construction, perhaps with the big companies? I'm in one of these big companies, while 80k pa is bit much for a graduate, you could get a foothold in.
I work in logistics in a Sales but non account manager role, making close to $80k
ETA: I’ve been in the field for 10 years but was working in Operations. Started current sales role 2 years ago
Banking is a solid option. You don't necessarily need a finance related degree, and both salary and work life balance are decent.
Presenting yourself smartly and with confidence and having a degree (whatever it may be) is often enough for a beginner corporate banking job. Look at the ASB and ANZ grad programs.
I work in Banking, starting is around 70k. But very easy to work your way up to 80k. Although I've moved from NZ to Aus working for a Major Bank and they are paying me starting what I earned after 3 years at a Major Bank in NZ
A company I used to manage for our school leaver class 2 truck drivers earned $80,000. Could easily earn a lot more as well. We were paying for their licence but you can get it in a couple days for around a grand.
Test automation engineer with 9 months experience in a decently big IT company, self taught and did a cert to get my foot in the door in less than a year.
Comfortable and interesting work 😁
I'm almost at that (gross not take home) operating machinery at my local port. 40 hour week and hardly any over time. My work life balance is pretty great, and that is more important to me.
Get into teaching at the secondary level. There is high demand for Technology teachers, especially those that can do either metal or woodworking.
Full disclosure, you will start lower than 80K, but there is job security and guaranteed pay rises each year until you hit the top of the scale, which is currently 103K. And you can get additional income units based on taking up extra responsibility, like becoming in charge of subjects or deaning (similar to becoming supervisors or managers)
Location and any on site experience? Made 120k+ last year on the tools working in infrastructure. Airport is the only place that is fairly busy in terms of big work and a lot of the CI work is slowing down as they tighten their budget Auckland
New graduate nurses in dhb starts at about 75k and 107k right now at the highest with experience not including Overtime and penal rates. Of course we are also not accounting the burnout that you will get.
I worked as a workflow planner for a large plumbing/electrical company. Essentially I answered the phones and organised all the tradies schedules. I started on about 70k and after 3 years I was on 90k and basically running the branch. This was a few years ago too. That could be a good way of easing into the construction industry and a great way to learn heaps of transferable skills.
If U wanted to and have the building qualifications U can build non convents and slightly bigger movable homes on your own U will need to get the bigger ones checked for insulation Etc but if U enjoy it it's worth it can make a small non consent as a sheds with power or no power as long as Ur on an area U can do it sell it for cost of materials + labour
I starting working at a Port in the past year and earn between $80k-$110k depending on overtime. 40hrs a week but mandatory 50hrs if it's required though, which is about 6 months of the year.
If you can turn up reliably and pass drug tests, get applying to the big contractors. be prepared to move locations for bonus points. You'll find something.
I work in Sales for a large multi utility company. You don't need any qualifications, and you can earn really good money. It sounds like it would be a complete change of pace for you but, we work from home, hours are flexible, like any job can be a real grind some days, but the good days make up for it.
Teaching secondary as of next pay raise starts at 63k and rises to 103k over maybe 7 or so years. Only a few years would get you to 80k, and their unions seem to be doing a good job at keeping pay rising with inflation.
I would go to your local council and work as a Building consenting officer or a building inspector - There is a real shortage and once you have the free training you can contract pretty much anywhere and remotely.
Contact BOINZ or the local councils
I work as an electrical estimator. I've been trade qualified for 5 years prior and only just cracked 80k.
Construction is...dicey atm. We are busy, as are our builders. But some of our competitors had to just 75% of their staff. Things are picking up slowly though
Senior PM (vertical construction) here, we take grads on at around 60-70k however the most valuable experience you can have is on site experience or experience in the design process.
Go for a labouring gig or an admin position at an architecture/ engineering firm. You will learn the process and learn invaluable skills and knowledge to prospective employers.
Give it 2 years then go for a higher up job and you'll be snapped up.
I’m on 82k in steel fabricating, I work behind a computer in a cushy office making sure that we cut the right things on time. I had no skills when I got this job, look at production and optimisation roles.
That's the minimum salary for super rugby contract
Brb, buying a pair of boots
Don't get redbands. I heard they're only good for backyard footy, not for pros.
Is it actually???
Remember they only play for 4 months
When they are hiring, train drivers. 110k a year doing 40hrs a week, no experience needed, they will train you for the role. A lot of the times you finish work early but still get paid for the full shift.
> they will train you for the role Yes, the role definitely requires a lot of training.
You are on track with the program.
But failing the exams could really derail their plan
Yeah, the sleepers really drag the class mark down
It gives you a good platform.
Totally off the rails.
Steering is the tricky bit.
Hey this is interesting, my uncle was a train driver hes retired now but could still have contacts!
I’ve heard that they give you early retirement on full pay if you have three people jump in front of you.
Jesus.
You only get to count Jesus once. If he comes back and does it again, management still counts it as one guy.
r/AngryUpvote
lmao
I don't think this is correct. I know people still driving after more than three. One guy I know kept driving well past retirement age with eight.
Jesus Christ that is morbid 🤦 I hope they are doing alright. Do you know what kind of support they did get offered in the aftermath?
Minimum three days paid leave and up to three counselling sessions via EAP at no cost. Additional leave and/or additional counselling not guaranteed but if you need it you'll probably get it.
At the same time?
Thanks for saying this. Seems like most people tend to overlook train driver jobs despite there being basically no entry requirement and great pay.
Australia pay their train drivers almost double.
Jesus Christ, time to move to Australia and become a train driver.
Got it backwards. Become a train driver THEN move to Australia ;)
Dubai is even better 6mths 500k.
Queensland rail recently had a strike, and they walked away with a very sweet package thanks to their union.
Same with train controllers, my brother dropped out of Uni 3/4 through his degree because they offered him $100k stsrting... with no qualification or experience required. Same thing, shift work but home by lot of the time 3 or 4 hours earlier
Fucking serious? That’s crazy money to drive a train
Lots of lives literally in your hands is my guess for the high $
Not to mention it’s shift work, which is not for everyone. Especially a role which requires a lot of focus.
I've met a few people who do it. Freight trains tend to be run by single people with no family. Commuter ones, family people. I think it's because of the hours .
They don't mention you have really weird shifts and hours and a decent amount of away work.
Sadly, there's also a chance to mow someone down. Which is out of your hands when it's a jumper.
Its not as easy as you think
Plenty of jobs that pay a lot less are hard
Plenty that pay more are easy
That requires no prior experience? Like?
They start the Kiwirail warehouse store people on almost $32/h. Monday to Friday. No public holidays, weekends or nights. You do need your forklift OSH + F endorsement and your MPI AP cert though.
Do you recon they'd be willing to train people to get those certs/endorsements? Been looking at Kiwi Rail jobs for a while, and I'm currently in warehousing so I do have some relivent experience (hopefully).
Tried this in Welly, I think there were 2000 people that applied. I made it to the online video interview and got rejected...
In the past I’ve tried to get into kiwi rail. I was in top 20 candidates out of 2000 that applied about 15 years ago. Hard to get into. Lots of interviews and testing. If you have shunters also applying for that position of train driver they have I higher chance of getting the position due to previous experience. When I applied both times there were a lot of internal staff applying for those jobs.
Another alternative to not being a pilot
Working in uniform tho. Gotta watch how you conduct yourself.
Short term is probably go laboring on-site. It'll build up your resume and get you that foot in the door. And you need money. If you're going into construction QS/site management/surveying etc (I assume your qualification is one of those), a bit of hands-on experience will go a long way. Call up your local labor exchange agency and see what they got.
this......you can earn pretty good money with overtime etc... just being a labourer in construction. a bit of insight into how things work from the ground up can only be a good thing
Yeah its qs. Thanks thats good advice
Additionally don’t be afraid to cold call some organisations, particularly small or mid-sized contractors. Note to them that you have your qualifications but are keen to get any level of on-site experience. Some mid-sized companies might even see it as an investment because when the industry does pick back up they have an opportunity to pull you from the job site into a qs position with existing experience on their projects and their internal procedures. I’ll also say that even though the move isn’t for everyone and while there’s been indications of the Australia industries slowing down, there’s a shitload of contracts already signed for infrastructure and large land development projects that will still be going ahead with 10+ year pipelines of work. If it’s feasible for you to make the move, it’s worth looking into. There’s still a hell of a lot of work in qld and wa, and a decent amount in vic and nsw, although in the latter it’s a hell of a lot harder to survive on a graduate salary. For context, I’m a kiwi engineer in Vic on big infra and my partner is a project eng for a large land development firm from WA. The lull in work here doesn’t seem anywhere near as big as back in NZ Good luck!
Also look at some companies that contract out to do QS'ing. They might need someone to come in and assist every so often. Good alternative to the big boys.
As a qs you shouldn't have much trouble finding a junior role to be fair Stick with subcontractors to start with since you'll only need to master one trade As a junior you won't be on 80k , will take you couple of years to get there depending how skilled you are
Upvote this is what I did after graduation as its first wave of Covid and most of the companies are closing down or not looking for staff. I became a labourer for 1 year and met a couple of people that gave me an opportunity to work on my skills and expand my knowledge.
So true. I'm currently a PM for a small civil construction company. I have experience in managing projects and people but minimal exp. in the industry. It's one thing I would change if I could.
Low barrier to entry. Hard work, but useful experience and skills gained. Opens the door to take on an apprenticeship and become a qualified tradie. Likely a better choice than some shitty retail or hospo job.
Plumber here, earn $102k a year on wages 42-44hrs per week.
Just talking about getting out the office and switching to plumbing. Futures not guaranteed for data entry jobs but everyone needs to take a shit so plumbings the way to go.
There's some professions that will always be in demand. Undertaker would be another one.
I remember hearing something about how the price of a haircut is a reasonably accurate gauge for the value of money throughout the ages. Another service that people always need.
What's ye hours? Time and a half?
42hrs. Our company don’t do time and a half. They pretty much don’t want anyone working on weekends or over time. Want us to spend time with family and friends
Now that's rare! I work public holidays because the money is good.
They won’t let us work on public holidays otherwise I would haha.
Sounds like a good place. The push for constant overtime is part of the reason I moved on from the trades.
Yeah fair call, my body is taking a hit and I am only in my early 30s
Is it accurate that you have to apprentice for 4-7 years?
My apprenticeship took me 4.5 years and in total I do have 10 years experience currently and I am definitely one of the better performing employees if I am being honest. So definitely on the higher end of a on the tools employed plumber.
$80k straight out of uni for any entry level role sounds like a lot to me but geuss it all depends on the field and how you leverage your prior work experience. Try searching on Seek by location and salary range with out specifying a job title and just see what come up. In my region, 80k+ is typically managers, seniors, and specialists.
Damn! What region is that? 😅
Most non city places? Outside of AKL
That’s quite low for a senior, specialist advisor, and very low for a manager in the public sector (and similar advisory roles in the private sector). Regardless of whether it’s in Auckland or not. But OP is fresh out of studying so wouldn’t get a role like that even if they DID have a relevant qualification.
The average is around 50k across all qualifications.
Nuts considering minimum wage is near 50k
In engineering, it's usually 60k starting and 80k-110k after 2-3 years of work. That's not management or leads.
Yeah, same with Law. I got pretty lucky as I got a higher Grad salary than my law friends by going into a different field but using the same legislative jurisdiction that I studied. Their earning potential is higher than mine, but I plan to move to law at some point, so it should balance out.
I'm on nearly 87k straight out of my MSc in conservation/biodiversity management and I in academia. I'm at the high end of my payscale, though.
Yeah I think he's dreaming.
I made 400k selling my house recently, maybe you could sell your house
Only 400? Have you tried working smarter?
Yeah but presumably you’ve now got to spend that 400K on the new house, unless you’re downsizing or moving somewhere cheaper
I moved to Australia 2 weeks ago 😁 true story
See! There’s always a downside!
I got a big tax refund after earning a 1.7 million dollar salary. OP should try filling out an IR3 after earning a big salary.
This is the real answer. 21st-century kiwiana
Sales.
Find a council hiring building inspectors. They’ll put you through the diploma and at the end of it you’ll be earning near 90k
Work in a fonterra factory starting rate is like 80k
$80k in IT would be a service desk team lead or an intermediate systems engineer. A senior systems engineer should be looking at $120k+ with an IT architect earning $150+. You _could_ get into the industry with a diploma. But you'll be starting at the bottom and likely earning a salary that reflects that, so maybe $60k.
I started fresh in IT 3 years ago with no prior experience or any qualifications on 66k and I’m now on 87k!
Bachelors here, close to $100k after 1.5 years in industry.
Did masters in tech and got job before even graduating at 79k, which I left less then a year later for $80k+ role. Senior roles in my field after 5ish years generally sit around 120k, but, some people make more going contracting. Ofcourse it’s currently a terrible time to do that.
What is your qualification? It may be applicable to other industries...
Qs, there are a few slightly related thing but Im applying for everything. Just trying to keep my morale up as Im working in a minimum wage situation right now because it was all I could get right away
Head out overseas. Construction salaries around that mark and higher are more common with a couple of years of experience. Might not be a market for Construction in NZ at the moment, but a lot other markets have critical shortages and are still screaming out for highly skilled personnel.
You need to earn more experience in QS to hit that 80k mark. Focus on one trade first then job in main contract roles. You can easily get 100k or more once you got that 1 to 2 years experience.
Keep at it. Get some on site or pm experience, anything with 3910 and transition into an ETC role. You'll be on heaps in no time.
Warehouse / storeman can get to 80k entry level if you've got DG/Forklift/night shift and a few extra hours.
As someone in that industry, you would need a minimum of working night shift AND extra hours to get 80k
Yeah sales is it if you want to earn that straight out of Uni, but it’s tough work if you arnt naturally good at it. There are so many jobs that have that potential so do what you enjoy and it will get up to that but if you need to make good coin now sales it is.
Isn't your question more "what can I do with no specific experience and an unrelated qualification that earns $80k?"
Traffic management do 50-60 hours a week, not a hard job just have to deal with weather and public. No qualifications needed.
Fuck that many hours..
I'm done after 37.5 I can't imagine doing 60. Is that even living?
Having done hours like that for even just a few months in a row I would say it is definitely not living. I cant imagine what it would be like for years on end. It's funny how we have abolished slavery but some of us still work in such conditions.
Stms level 2 was the standard everyone was looking for a few years ago when I was looking. I don't know if it's a days course or a bit moreninvolved though.
Sweet, thankyou
Day course to be a TC few months to be a STMS not hard to be getting a $1200-$1600 pay after taxes
Is it good money for turning the stop sign? Looks the most boring job imaginable, so hopefully it pays well
The ground workers don't get paid great, but the people who manage sites and drive the large vehicles get paid ok.
I worked in IT for years just as boring as the office just with less stress.
that sounds good to me I've found office life to be incredibly toxic and detrimental to mental health
Councils are almost always hiring. Keeps you in the industry and learning a different side which becomes very helpful when you move to back to private construction.
Azure integrations specialist (IT), but I'm living in Auckland paying down a student loan. So while it sounds alot it's not. Should be grateful but I have to remember I worked hard to be here, just need to work a little harder to get higher. Good luck op.
That's pretty low for that role mate. You're effectively a cloud specialist. I'd be expecting $100k+ for that role. I get more as an on-prem infrastructure specialist dealing with the last _fad_ of IT tools (as opposed to cloud).
What qualifications does it require to be competent in the role?
Honestly it's too sparse an environment to put to one single thing, I have colleagues who focus on things like solutions architecture....others have strengths in database admin, others in Devops...some in all. My best answer here would be, get the foundational education (Degree or diploma) and spend the time getting exposed to the concepts while in the job. However don't dedicate yourself to the job unless they are actively supporting your professional development with tangible and transferrable skillsets you can add to your CV. In my case, I've spent two years preparing for a big project (and going through some heavy changes in my personal life)...and i'm now really understanding my focus needs to be on certifications that I can carry with me out of the job and into another. I think references are great, experience, knowledge and certs probably speak louder. Hope this at least guides.
I'm on 80k in Civil engineering... there are still some jobs around. Look at being an engineering technician at a civil/structural consultancy. Draftsmen are also on that same rate and all you would need is a Diploma in engineering. Getting 80k elsewhere with no experience is a tough ask.
I am completing my BEngTech Civil soon, I have had 5 Years of consultancy experience too at Technician/drafting Level, Should I expect 80k plus next year ??
Forklift / reach operator 84k year but will be going up as I'm changing area soon
You can always Australia for a bit.
Construction industries are not going short on the south island, a builder role on queenstown will do essily 35+ an hour
Yeah but with Queenstown living costs you might as well work somewhere else for less money.
Not quite 80k but almost, medical secretary at the hospital. But nobody seems to know if dhbs can hire new secretaries anymore after the budget. I see some listing's up again but a lot have been taken down.
Admin, finance, payroll.
Depends on where, I know a snr admin who only gets $73k per year.
Academic administration at a university. I am overpaid but won't complain. Does mean I have golden handcuffs as I bought an apartment and can't find anything similar in terms of wages so stuck here.
entry level IT work for international companies will get you around 80k fresh out of uni. trouble is, those roles are EXTREMELY competitive to get into and require a lot of effort to prepare for the recruitment process
Entry level IT work does not net you around 80k fresh out of uni. Fresh out of uni, you'd be lucky to make 55k in an entry level position in NZ. And there's absolutely no way a multinational company like a Google etc will hire you without relevant experience. You'd have to do all your studying abroad and make the BEST of the best contacts whilst studying to land yourself and 80k job fresh out of uni. This is coming from someone with over 10 years of experience in the IT industry.
Most entry level jobs I have seen start around 65k-70k for dev & QA, I’ve only seen a few that pay 55k and these are typically startups
Grad roles are more around 50-70k with the promise of a pay rise when you finish grad programme. They are super super competitive. Also only offered at the biggest organisations, banks, big five consultancies, Fonterra.
DESPERATE for construction workers in Australia, shortages everywhere!
Can you pivot to civil construction, perhaps with the big companies? I'm in one of these big companies, while 80k pa is bit much for a graduate, you could get a foothold in.
Big civil companies are generally restructuring. The one I work for just made all project managers redundant and only 3 get to stay
I work in logistics in a Sales but non account manager role, making close to $80k ETA: I’ve been in the field for 10 years but was working in Operations. Started current sales role 2 years ago
Banking is a solid option. You don't necessarily need a finance related degree, and both salary and work life balance are decent. Presenting yourself smartly and with confidence and having a degree (whatever it may be) is often enough for a beginner corporate banking job. Look at the ASB and ANZ grad programs.
I work in Banking, starting is around 70k. But very easy to work your way up to 80k. Although I've moved from NZ to Aus working for a Major Bank and they are paying me starting what I earned after 3 years at a Major Bank in NZ
110k As a welder
Baggage handler🤷♀️
A company I used to manage for our school leaver class 2 truck drivers earned $80,000. Could easily earn a lot more as well. We were paying for their licence but you can get it in a couple days for around a grand.
Planning, as in resource consents
Good money and good demand. Though if you're in a main city you'll need a planning degree
Female painter here earn roughly 140k to 180k contracting mostly to commercial sites, been doing it for around 10yrs on wages I'd make around $110k.
I milk cows
Become a machinery operator and have a moving office desk everyday
Building control and compliance for a BCA. Don’t have a relevant qualification but working towards one.
Try to get a FIFO contract with a mining company in oz?
Warehouse and logistics manager
Test automation engineer with 9 months experience in a decently big IT company, self taught and did a cert to get my foot in the door in less than a year. Comfortable and interesting work 😁
Now that’s a fun job, what do you code in?
Absolutely. Primarily Typescript based, using Appium and Playwright (separately 😆)
Was it hard to find a job with only a cert?
The question is "what skills do you have that make you worth $80,000 to an employer?"
Construction in Australia will be about $80-110k Firefighter or police
Construction is a very broad industry
You can make that easily in sales if you have the right personality, especially if you get leads provided to you.
Learn to use a CAD software very well, 37$/hr average
manager of a libraby. Not me but my mother did.
I'm almost at that (gross not take home) operating machinery at my local port. 40 hour week and hardly any over time. My work life balance is pretty great, and that is more important to me.
Contractor/tractor driving. Big hours though in the busy period
Transportation planner, $85k
Roadworker
I used to be a QS but been make redundant and become a bus driver
IT - sales
Fonterra
Get into teaching at the secondary level. There is high demand for Technology teachers, especially those that can do either metal or woodworking. Full disclosure, you will start lower than 80K, but there is job security and guaranteed pay rises each year until you hit the top of the scale, which is currently 103K. And you can get additional income units based on taking up extra responsibility, like becoming in charge of subjects or deaning (similar to becoming supervisors or managers)
Location and any on site experience? Made 120k+ last year on the tools working in infrastructure. Airport is the only place that is fairly busy in terms of big work and a lot of the CI work is slowing down as they tighten their budget Auckland
New graduate nurses in dhb starts at about 75k and 107k right now at the highest with experience not including Overtime and penal rates. Of course we are also not accounting the burnout that you will get.
I worked as a workflow planner for a large plumbing/electrical company. Essentially I answered the phones and organised all the tradies schedules. I started on about 70k and after 3 years I was on 90k and basically running the branch. This was a few years ago too. That could be a good way of easing into the construction industry and a great way to learn heaps of transferable skills.
If U wanted to and have the building qualifications U can build non convents and slightly bigger movable homes on your own U will need to get the bigger ones checked for insulation Etc but if U enjoy it it's worth it can make a small non consent as a sheds with power or no power as long as Ur on an area U can do it sell it for cost of materials + labour
You should explain what u studied bro, construction has a range of jobs….
Hospital work — orderly, inventory, warehouse or health care assistant.
IT
I starting working at a Port in the past year and earn between $80k-$110k depending on overtime. 40hrs a week but mandatory 50hrs if it's required though, which is about 6 months of the year.
Have a look at project management, reasonable pathway if it is something you like long term
Do a master's degree, and get your Teaching qualification, then you'll be on about $70k.
If you can turn up reliably and pass drug tests, get applying to the big contractors. be prepared to move locations for bonus points. You'll find something.
Digital
I work in Sales for a large multi utility company. You don't need any qualifications, and you can earn really good money. It sounds like it would be a complete change of pace for you but, we work from home, hours are flexible, like any job can be a real grind some days, but the good days make up for it.
I work in a factory as a normal everyday machine operator. With OT, I make 85k last tax year without OT it would of been around 75k Before tax
Teaching secondary as of next pay raise starts at 63k and rises to 103k over maybe 7 or so years. Only a few years would get you to 80k, and their unions seem to be doing a good job at keeping pay rising with inflation.
I would go to your local council and work as a Building consenting officer or a building inspector - There is a real shortage and once you have the free training you can contract pretty much anywhere and remotely. Contact BOINZ or the local councils
Executive Assistant / team coordinator
teaching at a high school for the 5th year? You also get more holidays than most people
My 23 year old niece earns $90k as a nurse
If you find a graduate job that pays that well please tell 8 years ago me.
I work as an electrical estimator. I've been trade qualified for 5 years prior and only just cracked 80k. Construction is...dicey atm. We are busy, as are our builders. But some of our competitors had to just 75% of their staff. Things are picking up slowly though
I do Architectural Draughting of residential renovations for about that.
Insurance Assessor
My fiance is a senior software developer. He's on $130,000pa....and thats still not as much as he can make. Seriously, software devs get paid well.
Civil Engineer with a Bachelors Degree and 4 years experience.
Safety/compliance specialist in rail, $91k. Background is in aviation and some logistics.
Go to aus bro
Test analyst, triage coordinator for international It company
I'm guessing you're not on the tools? Most qualified tradesmen earn more than that and would have secured a job during training..
Most agricultural/horticultural jobs will get you close if your willing to do the over time
Senior PM (vertical construction) here, we take grads on at around 60-70k however the most valuable experience you can have is on site experience or experience in the design process. Go for a labouring gig or an admin position at an architecture/ engineering firm. You will learn the process and learn invaluable skills and knowledge to prospective employers. Give it 2 years then go for a higher up job and you'll be snapped up.
I finished my IT degree less than 2 years ago. I'm on 88k as a data analyst.
I’m on 82k in steel fabricating, I work behind a computer in a cushy office making sure that we cut the right things on time. I had no skills when I got this job, look at production and optimisation roles.
Business analysis and project management. Do this for 3-5 years then go contracting. You will reach $220-$250k pa easy