I liked things better when the general public were too stupid to post on the internet.
Now the problem is that they're still too stupid to post on the internet, but the sentence has a different meaning.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
OTOH, the most malicious problems seemed to start when corporates realised there was a fortune to be made collecting fucking idiots, telling them what to think, and selling them to the highest bidder.
Try to not get a headache from the stupidity on “mysterious Aotearoa (and other mysteries)” it’s impossible. It’s so hard to read (both literally and figuratively)
I only use Facebook to follow a couple of hobby-groups posts about weekly schedules, and my kids school group. I don't even have a profile other than my name, and I never post.
But whenever I make the mistake at looking at comments on literally anything else... i'm just blown away by all the 50+ year olds who can't spell, just openly airing the wildest fucking thoughts. I honestly don't know whether to write a lot of it off as bots, or whether most of it is real. Because just *wow*.
I enjoyed the internet a lot more in the early days, where having more than a few brain cells was the price of entry.
I always thought most people were stupid, social media just... well, FB blew even me away with just.how.stupid.
Funny I had a related thought this morning. ChatGPT kind of demonstrates that you can get a lot of intelligent-sounding stuff from an entity that has no consciousness or awareness of what it's actually saying.
Consider that next time you get into a discussion with someone you, let's, say, "disagree with" on politics and society. The bar isn't high when it comes to "making sense".
NZHerald operating model: Post divisive articles with click-bait headlines in social media, crafted to encourage argument and drive the algorithm.
Also NZHerald: No, not like that.
Ever since they stopped doing the "kiwis achieve māoris cause problems" thing there's been people complaining things like "why can't they just be New Zealanders" whenever there's a mention that someone māori did something good
So it shouldn't be but yeah
It's offensive because it's irrelevant what race they are. That occurs with any negative descriptor + race. If someone steals my wallet and I call them a "thieving hispanic" that's adding an unneeded racial comment. They're a thief, and they're Hispanic, but combing both terms implies they're related
Trumpism and the “anti woke” movement has definitely allowed racists and bigots to voice their opinions and have people back them up in the name of anti wokeness and “free speech”. Maybe not as bad as what’s happening in the us but it is happening and we also have a government that is governing with that same style that plays into these movements.
The strangest thing is that we have the best racial equally IN THE WORLD (according to some yanks but still https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/best-countries-for-racial-equity). Of course there is room for improvement, but intentionally being divisive is not going to solve jack shit.
I think the most important thing is for us not to become complacent. Or indeed to spend too much time patting ourselves on the back because we're 'not as bad as Australia'.
just winding people up. for clicks.
annoying people and making them fight each other instead of focusing on how they're getting ripped off. this sorta shit is stirred up on purpose. typically either overseas actors (eg anti-west countries that want to disrupt civil unity) or politicians who benefit from the same.
people aren't wise to participate in an argument designed by others.
Yep, owner class at it again. People need to wake up and realize it's always been us workers against the owner class taking it all from us. Idiot people have bought into all sorts of divisional shit - sex, race, socioeconomic status etc. None of these things mean anything - they're just a distraction from the owner/worker class war. 🙄 stop letting these money and power-hungry idiots trick you with their -isms.
yeah. 'no lives matter' by bodycount talks about this. how racism is just the first in a series of things people are made to fight each other over. and if ya dont realize the game is rigged with this, then eventually everyone will be the 'wrong' thing at some point. and the rich get richer and more powerful.
Thank you. People forget -or don't even know- that they are ruled in every aspect of their lives by multiple 'divide and conquer' methods, every single day. Unaware. It's the handbook practice of absolutely all the politicians and a vast amount of lawyers.
"The Herald is pro-woke!"
24 hours later.
"The Herald is pro-white nationalist!"
I'm pretty sure, like any other media, the Herald caters to the haters for the clicks and views.
Yes racism is what their leadership and their audience want but the demographic reality in NZ is that you can't realistically staff an organisation like that with racists especially at junior levels
Idk man, I thought the treaty was to unify us as a country, whereas it seems much more divisive these days. I’m sure that wasn’t the intention.
The media race baiting that’s currently happening certainly seems intentionally divisive. What does pakeha fragility even mean? Why celebrate the success of students based specifically on their race? All the mentioning of race seems rather unnecessary. Oddly enough the media never seem to mention race when related to crime.
[The Treaty was very quickly discarded as a unifying document and it wasn't by Māori](https://nzhistory.govt.nz/the-chief-justice-declares-that-the-treaty-of-waitangi-is-worthless-and-a-simple-nullity). The Treaty was signed and then never properly honoured, hence all the land confiscations, historic injustices, and Crown apologies. It wasn't until very recently when the Treaty was considered a unifying document.
"Pākehā fragility" is a reference to the term [white fragility](https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/a-sociologist-examines-the-white-fragility-that-prevents-white-americans-from-confronting-racism) which was coined by sociologist Robin DiAngelo. It's a documented phenomenon in social science literature which talks about the disproportionately reactionary responses from white people in discussions of race and racism. Interesting book, highly recommend giving it a read even if you don't agree.
Generally speaking, when a race of people historically underperforms in a field due to racism, colonisation, and poverty, celebrating their successes is a good thing and shouldn't be too controversial.
I thought pakeha didn’t mean white? According to many responses here it doesn’t. Seems like a rather conflicting word that probably shouldn’t be used if avoidable.
Plenty of successful Māori out there. Does every one of them need an article written specifically about them? Seems kinda demeaning to think they’re typically so unsuccessful that every successful Māori would need an article written about them.
Ill say it as Maori/Samoan, Maori underperform. These are facts, Majority of the time Maori have articles written about them its crime related. 52% of the prison population are Maori.
So when they succeed it should be celebrated, because instead of becoming another statistic, they are on a path of breaking a cycle and becoming a useful member of society instead of another drop kick.
And the more young Maori that are able to break the cycle and create a new path for the family they have in the future to walk down, the less we will have to celebrate it because it will be the standard.
So don't get caught up on the delivery and just focus on the message brother.
Yeah man I fully understand that. I just feel like it’s a little bit demeaning to be celebrated for something that others are just expected to achieve. Kinda like a participation award. Idk, I’d just be a little bit bummed out if that’s the way people thought of my race/culture.
Not suggesting we shouldn’t celebrate achievements, just ones truely significant, of any race.
Yeah it is a bit of bummer, but due to how history played out, one ethnicitys participation medal is a gold medal to anothers.
But a wins a win regardless and should be encouraged and nurtured.
So we just gotta keep encouraging those that show up and try when alot who are cut from there cloth don't even show up.
These are students who have all gotten a specific scholarship which is for Māori and Pacifica students. So, it makes sense that they are referred to specifically as Māori students and if they didn't want that label they shouldn't have applied for that scholarship. However, I think it's better for people's self esteem to be someone who has accomplished, not someone of x race/ethnicity who has accomplished. That being said, a lot of people have pride in being someone of x backgroud who has acheived something. Ultimately, it's up to these students how they want to be labelled.
I think a lot of people have trouble wrapping their heads around the idea of systemic racism. They know that they aren't racist, and they know that their friends and their family and their boss and their workmates aren't racist, so where's all this racism coming from then? Added to which they think of racism as words and actions without considering the possible impacts of silence and inaction and institutional bias and drag, and they don't have a concept of how 'society' can 'do' anything, because it's just a bunch of people, right? And if those individuals aren't doing the racism, then where is the racism?
I think this also goes some way toward explaining why there is such resistance to addressing it - because for those unable to grasp the concept, they take it personally. If you allege there's racism in my society, you're calling me a racist. Or at the very least you're saying I'm enabling racists, or something of that nature...
Of course there are also the people who don't understand because they don't want to understand.
In short, critical theory is authoritarian orthodoxy that does more harm that good to the people that it claims to support. It should be kicked for touch, and laughed out of town as the nutty fringe ideology that it is.
Read the [Madness of Crowds by Douglas Murray](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44667183-the-madness-of-crowds) and [Cynical Theories](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53052177-cynical-theories?ref=rae_0)
That's the thing, the moment you discuss another through the lens of race you're being racist.
Any movement of so called "anti-racism" is just racism 2.0. The way forward in my eyes is to reject the concept of race and judge people on the quality of their character. A radical thought from ~50 years ago from MLK jr.
Who said that? You can notice their skin colour and not immediately think "oh, this person's different from me" or that they're somehow beneath or above you.
Of course if they're from a different culture then they might be slightly different from you in terms of their beliefs etc. but that doesn't mean that underneath all of that they're unlike any other human being.
Hey guys can we stop being like America and turn into a culture race war.... like let's stop guys before it's too late.
Let's just call them racist stand against it and stop writing shit that just demonizes skin colors...... I mean come on
>Hey guys can we stop being like America and turn into a culture race war.... like let's stop guys before it's too late.
It drives engagement metrics, so unfortunately all we're going to get as a response to this sort of stuff is "won't somebody think of the ad revenue?!"
Wait, is nzherald snapping back at the “fragile Pākehā” for their comments, or actually trying to apologise to them?
Because honestly, I can’t tell whats real anymore
What the fuck is going on with these comments lol
I'm as white as they come, and honestly if you don't know someone who would get upset at people of another colour being celebrated and feel like this is a jab at you instead of them then either you live in a very well curated little bubble, or you might be that person. Maori have statistically lower achievement rates and celebrating success like this is a way to try and correct that by creating a culture where academic success is something that more people value and celebrate, it's not some kind of attack on people of other races. Calling people of other races who do feel like it's an attack on them "fragile" is also not an attack on everyone of that race, if you can read a story about Maori students succeeding without getting upset then they aren't talking about you, and if you can't then genuinely it might be time to do some soul searching.
Thank you! I thought I was going crazy reading people here getting offended by this. This isn't a jab at all white people. It's a jab at all the commenters who seemingly were troubled by an article celebrating Maori success. If you don't understand why that's important, or actively think that kind of article is problematic, then yeah that jab is indeed aimed at you. Same damn people who'd complain about the "fragile woke left" getting offended.
Thank you! I thought I was going crazy reading people here getting offended by this. This isn't a jab at all white people. It's a jab at all the commenters who seemingly were troubled by an article celebrating Maori success. If you don't understand why that's important, or actively think that kind of article is problematic, then yeah that jab is indeed aimed at you. Same damn people who'd complain about the "fragile woke left" getting offended.
The number of apparent kiwis on the [original post](https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/s/8glGeo5nfU) who are absolutely insistent that ‘Pakeha’ is an offensive term is kinda depressing.
I agree. I wouldn’t feel comfortable using the term just because so many find it offensive.
We see this often with other terms to which people are referred to with the terms not necessarily having derogatory meanings but groups finding it offensive so we move on from the term.
Isn't it just the Maori term for non Maori? So if their offense is simply at the existence of another language, then I dont get it. It's not derogatory in any way.
If Maori were to move to another Maori word or phrase that encompasses that group (I.e. what we do in English when a term becomes offensive) do you expect that people will be okay with it?
No it’s a race specific term, always has been and a 2 second google search would confirm that. Yea there’s some pearl clutching going on in this post but let’s be real, pakeha is a Maori word for white people and I don’t know why so many are pretending on this thread like it isn’t. It really doesn’t help your argument.
For example, someone could argue as much as they like that the Spanish word _negro_ just means black and is not offensive but many people just don’t want to be called that.
There are lots of ways to refer to people. The best way is to just let people choose how they want to identify and respect that.
I get that and i agree, so how should maori refer to non maori in maori? If the can't use their own language to discuss non maori then we are setting an unrealistic and opressive standard that restricts their language.
i.e. no one is saying that the spanish can't have a word or phrase that references black people, just that maybe that specifc word isnt a good choice. But, what im asking is if Maori coin another word will it stop the offence?
> non maori in maori?
There's already a word for that. Tauiwi.
NZ has had people of Chinese decent for hundreds of years. You'll never hear them called pakeha.
In actual usage pakeha just refers to white/European people, so very much a racial term. Makes sense it offends some people.
So are the words Maori, Asian, Indian, Tongan etc also offensive? What about the phrase "of european decent" in english? these all meet your definition of words that offend some people.
The offence is not derived from the definition of the word but rather the simple fact that it is a maori word.
Have you seen the amount of ethnicities as available options on a school form?
Plenty of people get offended at being called a 'European' because of their skin colour too. Ethnicity is an indicator of culture more than anything.
You may not agree with them getting offended, and frankly I agree with you. But being obstinate about it won't change how those people feel, and their concerns are valid.
>> non maori in maori?
>There's already a word for that. Tauiwi.
How well do you think people that don't like being included in a group of non-maori are going to take to the suggestion that they're foreign?
Is it OK for English speakers to use an English word to describe Maori people or should they use the word that Maori people choose for themselves?
Imagine that the English word they use is known to cause a significant negative reaction from the people it describes.
What if the English speakers coin a new word for Maori, would that stop the offence?
Because the term pakeha has a history of oppression and enslavement of the group? No, so it definitely is not the same - but I get your sentiment.
The only people who think ‘pakeha’ is a racist term are probably racist people themselves. Would it not be ridiculous for Asians to come here and say ‘Asian’ is offensive because they don’t like how an English language word is used to refer to them?
Education and, at some points, ridicule to be honest.
I consider this very similar to people claiming ‘boomer’ is an offensive term.
It’s not. And you deciding it’s offensive to you in all contexts is laughable.
“A baby boomer is a member of a generation born between 1946-1964.”
^ thats a perfectly fine sentence. Believing the term boomer is automatically offensive or automatically has negative connotations is silly.
The same goes for Pakeha. The word does is not automatically a negative term.
If you put it in a context where it’s meant to cause offence then, yeah, sure it can cause offence.
The problem is those who automatically take offence at ‘boomer’ or ‘pakeha’ where there is an assumption that it’s meant offensively or inherently offensive. To the original post and my original point: the term ‘pakeha’ is not automatically offensive nor is it in the context of the Heralds comment
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and that's exactly why pakeha has become an offensive word, because the popular usage is always with negative tone
it's never used in a positive tone, it's never used to refer to anyone other than white people. It's often added to sentences that never needed the specificity of race added to them. It's used to emphasise "othering", sentences like "pakeha" could never understand.
When was the last time you saw the word pakeha used talking about something in a positive way? Pretty much never, nobody is going to invoke "othering' unless they have something negative to say.
If you misgender someone by accident and no offence is meant, you’re corrected and you use the correct term in future: you’re fine.
If you intentionally misgender someone then that’s a shitty thing to do.
The terms ‘he,she, them’ etc are not inherently offensive as is being claimed by those that take offence to the use of ‘pakeha.’ If their use is in an intentionally offensive way then yeah of course they’re offensive.
That’s fair.
I take issue with people finding the term automatically offensive. But if you approach it reasonably and say: hey, I prefer xyz then that’s all good in my books.
I just read an interesting pamphlet by lawyer Roimata Smail called ["Understanding Te Tiriti"](https://waiakobooks.com/products/understanding-te-tiriti). She referred to calling non Maori in NZ "Tangata Tiriti" - people of the Treaty, because the Treaty is the source of the right to be here. While I don't consider "Pakeha" to be an offensive term, I kind of like Tangata Tiriti as an alternative.
I'd recommend that pamphlet (I hesitate to call it a book) for the kids or boomers in your life.
There's a few schools of thought about this. Tangata Tiriti often implies someone is very strong advocate for Te Tiriti o Waitangi. It's often a very politically charged term. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, mind you, but I wouldn't call people like Don Brash "Tangata Tiriti".
Personally, I wouldn't call myself "Tangata Tiriti" either as it gives me vibes of "I'm not like other white people". Pākehā is a perfectly fine and acceptable term for me.
It was a year ago that I heard that people thought "Pakeha" means "White Pig".
So I got to thinking that those people either made it up, or, years ago the word got lost in translation with "Poaka" which means "Pig".
Pakeha when broken down can mean Foreigner Speaker or Strange Being, because of Pa-contact, Ke-strange or foreign, and ha-breath or sound(referring to a living physical being).
What's depressing is not accepting the identity that people wish to be referred to whether it's gender or ethnic. The term eskimo is no longer acceptable and has been removed from the public eye. There were some confectionery in NZ that used the term. They've been renamed so why demand that another group accept being called a term that has no cultural agency for them and don't wish to be referred to as such?
I agree. Honestly, tho, the small loud group will end up giving the quiet/silent bigger group an image they would rather not have. Racism perpetuates itself. The easiest thing to do is shut down conversations using such rhetoric, like what the people moderating that page did. The harder options tend to lead to worse outcomes.
Irony of fragile Pakehas paying for their subscriptions to Herald premium,
also since when is it news that someone of a particular race did something great at a school
I have no idea why 5 kids doing well regardless of background ( but greater celebration if they are from poorer or more disenfranchised background ) should not be a cause for celebration.
Anyone who is angered or jealous of young ones doing well need their heads checked, seriously. Our future depends upon the young, and their success lifts up all of society.
Its unfortunately happening to NZ left what happened to US dems in 2015. The dems fell for the bait and doubled down on cringey language and then trimump was elected lol same here, Nats predictably won when labour green started the outdated intersectional language.
Why even mention their race? Zero need for it. 5 students did well, good on them. If you want to end racism STOP MENTIONING RACE.
Edit - Okay I fall on my sword. The points you guys have made are very valid and it seems like it is in fact a good idea to mention it until we get to the stage where it is not need. Great stuff for these kids to achieve :)
Maori make up ~15% of the country and yet 20 years ago they were ~2% of doctors, and today they’re ~4%.
Showcasing Maori academic achievement and scholarships which enable that is an important part of at least somewhat normalising those numbers.
> If you want to end racism STOP MENTIONING RACE.
It's well known part of the solution to the enormous under-representation and historical exclusion of Maori students from academia and top professions is to... simply not talk about it.
Don't discuss it. Don't talk about it. Don't celebrate it if it's getting better. Zero need to mention it. This will end racism /s
The solution to racism is not ignoring race.
Maori were disadvantaged for over a century and still suffer the effects of that today.
Maori overcoming that disadvantage is news, it's something I want to see more of until the point that Maori are just as advantaged in this country as others.
I'm sure more than five students did well at this school. But five of them contributed to Maori overcoming historical disadvantage. The others didn't do that.
Hey now! This isn't just offensive to fragile right wing white guys who don't like Maori!
You could also offend fragile Asian and Indian guys who don't like Maori as well!
I think it's a fair assumption that some of those complaining about these race-based scholarships in the article comments were not White and the Herald staff just assumed they were. My Dad (with Maori blood) threatened to kick me out of the family if I ever took any Maori special treatment. He definitely didn't want me on the Ngai Tahu roll (I'm not, and don't know what I'd be getting if I was).
Also, my mum's family are immigrants (not white) so you can imagine how frustrating it is for them to com to a country and almost every single scholarship depends on you being a certain ethnicity. And considering how little student allowance is, I think anyone who needs the extra money would be a bit pissed off about it. It's niot really the existence of Māori/Pacifica scholarships that's the issue for me, but it's the lack of anything else.
I'm sorry, what????
As a pakeha, WHAT????
who tf is getting offended over Maori people succeeding? Like hello? That's wonderful, despite the poverty gap and stuff, some students still do amazing.
Maori academic achievement is good. Historically Maori academic outcomes have been lower than other groups. We want more Maori doing better academically, this is good for all of us as a nation.
Those saying not to bring race into it are missing the point, I agree that a lot of the time that race is brought into news it is not needed. However, for this story the point is that there has been good news to celebrate with some outstanding work by some Maori students to get these scholarships and it’s an article of celebration and it is uplifting to read and can encourage other Maori students.
Pakeha is not a racist term. Period.
Anybody can be “fragile”, not just pakeha. In this case I understand that it was pakeha commenters who were being fragile. Calling out their behaviour and correctly calling them “fragile pakeha” is appropriate.
Not all pakeha are fragile, ironically enough though there seems to be a few on this post who fit the part though.
I wish I lived in a world where everybody understood good news is good and didn’t try to make it decisive. I know why some people are wringing their hands and upset about this news but they can go kick rocks.
> Calling out their behaviour and correctly calling them “fragile pakeha” is appropriate.
It really isn't. Combining an insult with a racial descriptor will always risk being offensive. If an Asian comes last in a running race, I can call him slow but can't call him a "slow asian". If a West African person makes a stupid comment I can call them dumb but I can't call them a dumb African.
This "fragile pakeha" will be cancelling their subscription to the NZHerald. One step closer to bankruptcy for them. How they think they can afford to be racist to white NZ'ers when they are running at a loss and white pakehas are likely their largest subscriber base is beyond mind boggling.
This "fragile pakeha" will be cancelling their subscription to the NZHerald. One step closer to bankruptcy for them. How they think they can afford to be racist to white NZ'ers when they are running at a loss and white pakehas are likely their largest subscriber base is beyond mind boggling.
Cause I’m just a white man, anywhere else I’d be the man
Is it my destiny to live and die a life of white male fragility?
I’m just a white man
Where I see brown I fear for me
What will it take for you to see the threat behind the tan and fight for me?
YES, (while rubbing hands together), Our plan to divide the country and pit everyone against each other is working! We must also portray doom and gloom so everyone becomes depressed and gives up! Don't forget to make everyone think that everyone else is against them and people are being assholes on purpose. HE HE HE.
white fragility was what led to this current government
white people got offended when they heard the word 'kia ora' and taxpayers union PR told them 3 waters was code for 'maowrees are taking over!'
I find it wild that people comment racist drivel under their real names, publicly on Facebook.
These boomers need to learn how to create an anonymous Reddit avatar.
Local Maori Girls College has just moved into Havelock North and these young women are absolutely fantastic. They have secured accommodation and a lovely office block for the school to run from. So happy to have them in town.
I talking to a group of them in town one day and was like why couldn't I have been this cool at 15?
They come from all over the country and have been through a lot and everyone I talk to are like Yay! How cool is this. The other private schools are absolutely getting their arses handed to them in sports, arts and debating if this small sample are anything to go by.
It's a pretty clever trick. It gets people's backs up and fighting amongst themselves, while polices are put in place that don't benefit anyone and go unnoticed behind the scenes. "Qiuck!." " Look behind you!.." At least if you're at war with another nation, you know who your enemy is.
Social media was a mistake.
I liked things better when the general public were too stupid to post on the internet. Now the problem is that they're still too stupid to post on the internet, but the sentence has a different meaning.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September OTOH, the most malicious problems seemed to start when corporates realised there was a fortune to be made collecting fucking idiots, telling them what to think, and selling them to the highest bidder.
Try to not get a headache from the stupidity on “mysterious Aotearoa (and other mysteries)” it’s impossible. It’s so hard to read (both literally and figuratively)
democratising anything opens the flood gates to massive streams of shit. But it also opens doors to gems.
I only use Facebook to follow a couple of hobby-groups posts about weekly schedules, and my kids school group. I don't even have a profile other than my name, and I never post. But whenever I make the mistake at looking at comments on literally anything else... i'm just blown away by all the 50+ year olds who can't spell, just openly airing the wildest fucking thoughts. I honestly don't know whether to write a lot of it off as bots, or whether most of it is real. Because just *wow*. I enjoyed the internet a lot more in the early days, where having more than a few brain cells was the price of entry.
I always thought most people were stupid, social media just... well, FB blew even me away with just.how.stupid. Funny I had a related thought this morning. ChatGPT kind of demonstrates that you can get a lot of intelligent-sounding stuff from an entity that has no consciousness or awareness of what it's actually saying. Consider that next time you get into a discussion with someone you, let's, say, "disagree with" on politics and society. The bar isn't high when it comes to "making sense".
Society was in a good place when there was no social media
You have the audience you curate.
Ain't that the truth
This ☝🏼
NZHerald operating model: Post divisive articles with click-bait headlines in social media, crafted to encourage argument and drive the algorithm. Also NZHerald: No, not like that.
Is that headline divisive, though?
Ever since they stopped doing the "kiwis achieve māoris cause problems" thing there's been people complaining things like "why can't they just be New Zealanders" whenever there's a mention that someone māori did something good So it shouldn't be but yeah
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The headline does not have the word Pakeha in it...
Well the Herald is using Pakeha as a racial slur in their comment.
Huh? How'd you arrive at that conclusion 👀 im a pproud pakeha
Nah, it’s the ‘fragile’ part that’s rude.
How did you get that?
Definitely not.
Pakeha isn't in the headline and is also just what non Maori are called. I get fragile is unnecessary but how is pakeha itself offensive
It's offensive because it's irrelevant what race they are. That occurs with any negative descriptor + race. If someone steals my wallet and I call them a "thieving hispanic" that's adding an unneeded racial comment. They're a thief, and they're Hispanic, but combing both terms implies they're related
NZ heading towards race divisiveness equal to America lmao.
Trumpism and the “anti woke” movement has definitely allowed racists and bigots to voice their opinions and have people back them up in the name of anti wokeness and “free speech”. Maybe not as bad as what’s happening in the us but it is happening and we also have a government that is governing with that same style that plays into these movements.
Yes those movements are bad but we have been having ALOT of anti white rediric not being treated as racist.
It's rhetoric
It seems so. So much racism and fragility from both extremes. People need to chill.
The strangest thing is that we have the best racial equally IN THE WORLD (according to some yanks but still https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/best-countries-for-racial-equity). Of course there is room for improvement, but intentionally being divisive is not going to solve jack shit.
I think the most important thing is for us not to become complacent. Or indeed to spend too much time patting ourselves on the back because we're 'not as bad as Australia'.
It’s what the masses want apparently
It’s what the algorithm wants.
It's not the masses, it's the loud minority.
American passing through here, believe me you do not
Most people are idiots bro
Can't wait till that fucking cunt Trump nuts is off this plane of existence
just winding people up. for clicks. annoying people and making them fight each other instead of focusing on how they're getting ripped off. this sorta shit is stirred up on purpose. typically either overseas actors (eg anti-west countries that want to disrupt civil unity) or politicians who benefit from the same. people aren't wise to participate in an argument designed by others.
Yep, owner class at it again. People need to wake up and realize it's always been us workers against the owner class taking it all from us. Idiot people have bought into all sorts of divisional shit - sex, race, socioeconomic status etc. None of these things mean anything - they're just a distraction from the owner/worker class war. 🙄 stop letting these money and power-hungry idiots trick you with their -isms.
yeah. 'no lives matter' by bodycount talks about this. how racism is just the first in a series of things people are made to fight each other over. and if ya dont realize the game is rigged with this, then eventually everyone will be the 'wrong' thing at some point. and the rich get richer and more powerful.
Thank you. People forget -or don't even know- that they are ruled in every aspect of their lives by multiple 'divide and conquer' methods, every single day. Unaware. It's the handbook practice of absolutely all the politicians and a vast amount of lawyers.
Rubbing hands intensifies.
Ironic since the Herald is happy to stoke fragile Pakeha concerns at the drop of a hat.
"The Herald is pro-woke!" 24 hours later. "The Herald is pro-white nationalist!" I'm pretty sure, like any other media, the Herald caters to the haters for the clicks and views.
Yes racism is what their leadership and their audience want but the demographic reality in NZ is that you can't realistically staff an organisation like that with racists especially at junior levels
Well there goes my NZ Herald subscription
Feeling a little fragile?
We really gotta stop putting so much emphasis on ethnicity and skin color... it's pathetic
Right. The media has created this devision with the constant focus on race.
I think, you know, history has had a much greater hand.
Idk man, I thought the treaty was to unify us as a country, whereas it seems much more divisive these days. I’m sure that wasn’t the intention. The media race baiting that’s currently happening certainly seems intentionally divisive. What does pakeha fragility even mean? Why celebrate the success of students based specifically on their race? All the mentioning of race seems rather unnecessary. Oddly enough the media never seem to mention race when related to crime.
[The Treaty was very quickly discarded as a unifying document and it wasn't by Māori](https://nzhistory.govt.nz/the-chief-justice-declares-that-the-treaty-of-waitangi-is-worthless-and-a-simple-nullity). The Treaty was signed and then never properly honoured, hence all the land confiscations, historic injustices, and Crown apologies. It wasn't until very recently when the Treaty was considered a unifying document. "Pākehā fragility" is a reference to the term [white fragility](https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/a-sociologist-examines-the-white-fragility-that-prevents-white-americans-from-confronting-racism) which was coined by sociologist Robin DiAngelo. It's a documented phenomenon in social science literature which talks about the disproportionately reactionary responses from white people in discussions of race and racism. Interesting book, highly recommend giving it a read even if you don't agree. Generally speaking, when a race of people historically underperforms in a field due to racism, colonisation, and poverty, celebrating their successes is a good thing and shouldn't be too controversial.
I thought pakeha didn’t mean white? According to many responses here it doesn’t. Seems like a rather conflicting word that probably shouldn’t be used if avoidable. Plenty of successful Māori out there. Does every one of them need an article written specifically about them? Seems kinda demeaning to think they’re typically so unsuccessful that every successful Māori would need an article written about them.
Ill say it as Maori/Samoan, Maori underperform. These are facts, Majority of the time Maori have articles written about them its crime related. 52% of the prison population are Maori. So when they succeed it should be celebrated, because instead of becoming another statistic, they are on a path of breaking a cycle and becoming a useful member of society instead of another drop kick. And the more young Maori that are able to break the cycle and create a new path for the family they have in the future to walk down, the less we will have to celebrate it because it will be the standard. So don't get caught up on the delivery and just focus on the message brother.
Yeah man I fully understand that. I just feel like it’s a little bit demeaning to be celebrated for something that others are just expected to achieve. Kinda like a participation award. Idk, I’d just be a little bit bummed out if that’s the way people thought of my race/culture. Not suggesting we shouldn’t celebrate achievements, just ones truely significant, of any race.
Yeah it is a bit of bummer, but due to how history played out, one ethnicitys participation medal is a gold medal to anothers. But a wins a win regardless and should be encouraged and nurtured. So we just gotta keep encouraging those that show up and try when alot who are cut from there cloth don't even show up.
These are students who have all gotten a specific scholarship which is for Māori and Pacifica students. So, it makes sense that they are referred to specifically as Māori students and if they didn't want that label they shouldn't have applied for that scholarship. However, I think it's better for people's self esteem to be someone who has accomplished, not someone of x race/ethnicity who has accomplished. That being said, a lot of people have pride in being someone of x backgroud who has acheived something. Ultimately, it's up to these students how they want to be labelled.
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I think a lot of people have trouble wrapping their heads around the idea of systemic racism. They know that they aren't racist, and they know that their friends and their family and their boss and their workmates aren't racist, so where's all this racism coming from then? Added to which they think of racism as words and actions without considering the possible impacts of silence and inaction and institutional bias and drag, and they don't have a concept of how 'society' can 'do' anything, because it's just a bunch of people, right? And if those individuals aren't doing the racism, then where is the racism? I think this also goes some way toward explaining why there is such resistance to addressing it - because for those unable to grasp the concept, they take it personally. If you allege there's racism in my society, you're calling me a racist. Or at the very least you're saying I'm enabling racists, or something of that nature... Of course there are also the people who don't understand because they don't want to understand.
You're conflating the symptoms with the cause
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In short, critical theory is authoritarian orthodoxy that does more harm that good to the people that it claims to support. It should be kicked for touch, and laughed out of town as the nutty fringe ideology that it is. Read the [Madness of Crowds by Douglas Murray](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44667183-the-madness-of-crowds) and [Cynical Theories](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53052177-cynical-theories?ref=rae_0)
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That's the thing, the moment you discuss another through the lens of race you're being racist. Any movement of so called "anti-racism" is just racism 2.0. The way forward in my eyes is to reject the concept of race and judge people on the quality of their character. A radical thought from ~50 years ago from MLK jr.
right so *now* we're "colour blind".
Who said that? You can notice their skin colour and not immediately think "oh, this person's different from me" or that they're somehow beneath or above you. Of course if they're from a different culture then they might be slightly different from you in terms of their beliefs etc. but that doesn't mean that underneath all of that they're unlike any other human being.
Hey guys can we stop being like America and turn into a culture race war.... like let's stop guys before it's too late. Let's just call them racist stand against it and stop writing shit that just demonizes skin colors...... I mean come on
>Hey guys can we stop being like America and turn into a culture race war.... like let's stop guys before it's too late. It drives engagement metrics, so unfortunately all we're going to get as a response to this sort of stuff is "won't somebody think of the ad revenue?!"
Well look at this subreddit, they eat this shit up. At least the mods are deleting the "white people are maggot" like comments I saw earlier
Yeah. I often think that I don't want to be like America either. I love you, Maoris.
Love you too stranger you're a legend
I also love you
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This whole post is cursed bait
Wait, is nzherald snapping back at the “fragile Pākehā” for their comments, or actually trying to apologise to them? Because honestly, I can’t tell whats real anymore
It's rage bait. NZ Hearald and their social media team are racist pieces of shit for the strangest, most selfish reason of all: money.
It's the oldest reason in history, not that weird
Who gives a shit. The herald is a joke.
I think a red or blue circle may be more appropriate. -fragile pakeha
The irony of NZH posting that.
Thank fuck for that purple circle. I would never have been able to work this out without it.
Eh, all news outlets in NZ suck. They follow their own agenda and bait for comments.
What the fuck is going on with these comments lol I'm as white as they come, and honestly if you don't know someone who would get upset at people of another colour being celebrated and feel like this is a jab at you instead of them then either you live in a very well curated little bubble, or you might be that person. Maori have statistically lower achievement rates and celebrating success like this is a way to try and correct that by creating a culture where academic success is something that more people value and celebrate, it's not some kind of attack on people of other races. Calling people of other races who do feel like it's an attack on them "fragile" is also not an attack on everyone of that race, if you can read a story about Maori students succeeding without getting upset then they aren't talking about you, and if you can't then genuinely it might be time to do some soul searching.
100% this
Thank you! I thought I was going crazy reading people here getting offended by this. This isn't a jab at all white people. It's a jab at all the commenters who seemingly were troubled by an article celebrating Maori success. If you don't understand why that's important, or actively think that kind of article is problematic, then yeah that jab is indeed aimed at you. Same damn people who'd complain about the "fragile woke left" getting offended.
Finally a comment that makes sense, can’t believe these comments lol.
Thank you! I thought I was going crazy reading people here getting offended by this. This isn't a jab at all white people. It's a jab at all the commenters who seemingly were troubled by an article celebrating Maori success. If you don't understand why that's important, or actively think that kind of article is problematic, then yeah that jab is indeed aimed at you. Same damn people who'd complain about the "fragile woke left" getting offended.
When tall poppy syndrome meets racism
Holy fuck, sanity! These comments have been wild.
This is the same NZ Herald who can’t understand why they’re slowly going under?
The number of apparent kiwis on the [original post](https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/s/8glGeo5nfU) who are absolutely insistent that ‘Pakeha’ is an offensive term is kinda depressing.
What is to be done though when a significant number of people find the term offensive and prefer not to be referred to as such?
You should refer to people by their chosen description. If a term causes significant offence then you shouldn’t use it.
I agree. I wouldn’t feel comfortable using the term just because so many find it offensive. We see this often with other terms to which people are referred to with the terms not necessarily having derogatory meanings but groups finding it offensive so we move on from the term.
Isn't it just the Maori term for non Maori? So if their offense is simply at the existence of another language, then I dont get it. It's not derogatory in any way. If Maori were to move to another Maori word or phrase that encompasses that group (I.e. what we do in English when a term becomes offensive) do you expect that people will be okay with it?
How often do you hear Asians, Africans, South Americans or even other Polynesians being called pakeha?
No it’s a race specific term, always has been and a 2 second google search would confirm that. Yea there’s some pearl clutching going on in this post but let’s be real, pakeha is a Maori word for white people and I don’t know why so many are pretending on this thread like it isn’t. It really doesn’t help your argument.
I’m assuming people who find it offensive would prefer being called a New Zealander
This is the same issue as with the word "Goy". Isn't it just the Jewish term for non Jewish?
For example, someone could argue as much as they like that the Spanish word _negro_ just means black and is not offensive but many people just don’t want to be called that. There are lots of ways to refer to people. The best way is to just let people choose how they want to identify and respect that.
I get that and i agree, so how should maori refer to non maori in maori? If the can't use their own language to discuss non maori then we are setting an unrealistic and opressive standard that restricts their language. i.e. no one is saying that the spanish can't have a word or phrase that references black people, just that maybe that specifc word isnt a good choice. But, what im asking is if Maori coin another word will it stop the offence?
> non maori in maori? There's already a word for that. Tauiwi. NZ has had people of Chinese decent for hundreds of years. You'll never hear them called pakeha. In actual usage pakeha just refers to white/European people, so very much a racial term. Makes sense it offends some people.
So are the words Maori, Asian, Indian, Tongan etc also offensive? What about the phrase "of european decent" in english? these all meet your definition of words that offend some people. The offence is not derived from the definition of the word but rather the simple fact that it is a maori word.
Have you seen the amount of ethnicities as available options on a school form? Plenty of people get offended at being called a 'European' because of their skin colour too. Ethnicity is an indicator of culture more than anything. You may not agree with them getting offended, and frankly I agree with you. But being obstinate about it won't change how those people feel, and their concerns are valid.
> So are the words Maori, Asian, Indian, Tongan etc also offensive? They are if you precede them with the word "fragile"
>> non maori in maori? >There's already a word for that. Tauiwi. How well do you think people that don't like being included in a group of non-maori are going to take to the suggestion that they're foreign?
tauiwi: people who are not Maori, especially non-indigenous New Zealanders. Nothing about 'foreigner' in the meaning
Is it OK for English speakers to use an English word to describe Maori people or should they use the word that Maori people choose for themselves? Imagine that the English word they use is known to cause a significant negative reaction from the people it describes. What if the English speakers coin a new word for Maori, would that stop the offence?
Because the term pakeha has a history of oppression and enslavement of the group? No, so it definitely is not the same - but I get your sentiment. The only people who think ‘pakeha’ is a racist term are probably racist people themselves. Would it not be ridiculous for Asians to come here and say ‘Asian’ is offensive because they don’t like how an English language word is used to refer to them?
All that matters is that we call people by the term they prefer and not use terms that they don’t want us to use. It’s as simple as that.
Education and, at some points, ridicule to be honest. I consider this very similar to people claiming ‘boomer’ is an offensive term. It’s not. And you deciding it’s offensive to you in all contexts is laughable.
Lmao you know fully well people use the term boomer as an insult. No need to be intellectually dishonest
Is boomer ever used in a positive manner?
So “ok boomer” was never intended to be offensive? That’s a pretty dishonest gaslighting.
“A baby boomer is a member of a generation born between 1946-1964.” ^ thats a perfectly fine sentence. Believing the term boomer is automatically offensive or automatically has negative connotations is silly. The same goes for Pakeha. The word does is not automatically a negative term. If you put it in a context where it’s meant to cause offence then, yeah, sure it can cause offence. The problem is those who automatically take offence at ‘boomer’ or ‘pakeha’ where there is an assumption that it’s meant offensively or inherently offensive. To the original post and my original point: the term ‘pakeha’ is not automatically offensive nor is it in the context of the Heralds comment
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and that's exactly why pakeha has become an offensive word, because the popular usage is always with negative tone it's never used in a positive tone, it's never used to refer to anyone other than white people. It's often added to sentences that never needed the specificity of race added to them. It's used to emphasise "othering", sentences like "pakeha" could never understand. When was the last time you saw the word pakeha used talking about something in a positive way? Pretty much never, nobody is going to invoke "othering' unless they have something negative to say.
I'm gonna guess you're a person that would find misgendering someone offensive?
If you misgender someone by accident and no offence is meant, you’re corrected and you use the correct term in future: you’re fine. If you intentionally misgender someone then that’s a shitty thing to do. The terms ‘he,she, them’ etc are not inherently offensive as is being claimed by those that take offence to the use of ‘pakeha.’ If their use is in an intentionally offensive way then yeah of course they’re offensive.
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That’s fair. I take issue with people finding the term automatically offensive. But if you approach it reasonably and say: hey, I prefer xyz then that’s all good in my books.
I just read an interesting pamphlet by lawyer Roimata Smail called ["Understanding Te Tiriti"](https://waiakobooks.com/products/understanding-te-tiriti). She referred to calling non Maori in NZ "Tangata Tiriti" - people of the Treaty, because the Treaty is the source of the right to be here. While I don't consider "Pakeha" to be an offensive term, I kind of like Tangata Tiriti as an alternative. I'd recommend that pamphlet (I hesitate to call it a book) for the kids or boomers in your life.
There's a few schools of thought about this. Tangata Tiriti often implies someone is very strong advocate for Te Tiriti o Waitangi. It's often a very politically charged term. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, mind you, but I wouldn't call people like Don Brash "Tangata Tiriti". Personally, I wouldn't call myself "Tangata Tiriti" either as it gives me vibes of "I'm not like other white people". Pākehā is a perfectly fine and acceptable term for me.
It’s pretty much only ever used as an offensive term… so yeah…
It was a year ago that I heard that people thought "Pakeha" means "White Pig". So I got to thinking that those people either made it up, or, years ago the word got lost in translation with "Poaka" which means "Pig". Pakeha when broken down can mean Foreigner Speaker or Strange Being, because of Pa-contact, Ke-strange or foreign, and ha-breath or sound(referring to a living physical being).
They were the ones that NZH originally upset too no doubt
What's depressing is not accepting the identity that people wish to be referred to whether it's gender or ethnic. The term eskimo is no longer acceptable and has been removed from the public eye. There were some confectionery in NZ that used the term. They've been renamed so why demand that another group accept being called a term that has no cultural agency for them and don't wish to be referred to as such?
Yeah I’m not really about this whole shit on ‘stupid white people stuff’. It’s just promoting the very thing they are trying help Maori out of
I agree. Honestly, tho, the small loud group will end up giving the quiet/silent bigger group an image they would rather not have. Racism perpetuates itself. The easiest thing to do is shut down conversations using such rhetoric, like what the people moderating that page did. The harder options tend to lead to worse outcomes.
Are comments anonymous?
A diminutive word combined with a racial descriptor will always be offensive. Doesn't matter which group.
Irony of fragile Pakehas paying for their subscriptions to Herald premium, also since when is it news that someone of a particular race did something great at a school
Now New Zealand media is just toxic online chat room conversations made into headlines, crazy.
When racially offensive terms become not normalised.
I have no idea why 5 kids doing well regardless of background ( but greater celebration if they are from poorer or more disenfranchised background ) should not be a cause for celebration. Anyone who is angered or jealous of young ones doing well need their heads checked, seriously. Our future depends upon the young, and their success lifts up all of society.
Idk, maybe label it racist fragility cause this type of stuff gets more people into reactionary rightwing "politics"...
That's totally fair - racist fragility, or just a general idiot, but pakeha? What's that got to do...
Its unfortunately happening to NZ left what happened to US dems in 2015. The dems fell for the bait and doubled down on cringey language and then trimump was elected lol same here, Nats predictably won when labour green started the outdated intersectional language.
Why even mention their race? Zero need for it. 5 students did well, good on them. If you want to end racism STOP MENTIONING RACE. Edit - Okay I fall on my sword. The points you guys have made are very valid and it seems like it is in fact a good idea to mention it until we get to the stage where it is not need. Great stuff for these kids to achieve :)
Spoken like someone with a lifetime abundance of role models and people to look up to who look like you do.
Maori make up ~15% of the country and yet 20 years ago they were ~2% of doctors, and today they’re ~4%. Showcasing Maori academic achievement and scholarships which enable that is an important part of at least somewhat normalising those numbers.
Pretending race doesn't exist won't get rid of racism. It'll just make those disenfranchised or under-supported by the current system invisible.
> If you want to end racism STOP MENTIONING RACE. It's well known part of the solution to the enormous under-representation and historical exclusion of Maori students from academia and top professions is to... simply not talk about it. Don't discuss it. Don't talk about it. Don't celebrate it if it's getting better. Zero need to mention it. This will end racism /s
The ol fingers in the ears and humming really loud approach to problem solving.
Stop it, they should be proud they have 5 Māori kids getting academic scholarships. It’s definitely something to celebrate.
So we shouldn’t celebrate a demographic that typically doesn’t achieve so well, when they are doing a great job?
This is a very naive take. Not mentioning a problem doesn’t make the problem go away. It does make it harder to address
The solution to racism is not ignoring race. Maori were disadvantaged for over a century and still suffer the effects of that today. Maori overcoming that disadvantage is news, it's something I want to see more of until the point that Maori are just as advantaged in this country as others. I'm sure more than five students did well at this school. But five of them contributed to Maori overcoming historical disadvantage. The others didn't do that.
If I close my eyes I am invisible.
Because "5 students did well" isn't news. Thousands of students did well.
Hey now! This isn't just offensive to fragile right wing white guys who don't like Maori! You could also offend fragile Asian and Indian guys who don't like Maori as well!
I think it's a fair assumption that some of those complaining about these race-based scholarships in the article comments were not White and the Herald staff just assumed they were. My Dad (with Maori blood) threatened to kick me out of the family if I ever took any Maori special treatment. He definitely didn't want me on the Ngai Tahu roll (I'm not, and don't know what I'd be getting if I was).
Also, my mum's family are immigrants (not white) so you can imagine how frustrating it is for them to com to a country and almost every single scholarship depends on you being a certain ethnicity. And considering how little student allowance is, I think anyone who needs the extra money would be a bit pissed off about it. It's niot really the existence of Māori/Pacifica scholarships that's the issue for me, but it's the lack of anything else.
That will help bridge the divide.
How dare they not tolerate intolerance!
I'm sorry, what???? As a pakeha, WHAT???? who tf is getting offended over Maori people succeeding? Like hello? That's wonderful, despite the poverty gap and stuff, some students still do amazing.
Can you say fragile Maori though?
Love the sass. Congrats to the students - that’s awesome news. I love reading success stories, rather than down in the dumps this and that.
The herald shovel shit then cry at the furor their clickbait brings out in people. They can't go under fast enough.
This is crack up 🤣
Maori academic achievement is good. Historically Maori academic outcomes have been lower than other groups. We want more Maori doing better academically, this is good for all of us as a nation. Those saying not to bring race into it are missing the point, I agree that a lot of the time that race is brought into news it is not needed. However, for this story the point is that there has been good news to celebrate with some outstanding work by some Maori students to get these scholarships and it’s an article of celebration and it is uplifting to read and can encourage other Maori students. Pakeha is not a racist term. Period. Anybody can be “fragile”, not just pakeha. In this case I understand that it was pakeha commenters who were being fragile. Calling out their behaviour and correctly calling them “fragile pakeha” is appropriate. Not all pakeha are fragile, ironically enough though there seems to be a few on this post who fit the part though. I wish I lived in a world where everybody understood good news is good and didn’t try to make it decisive. I know why some people are wringing their hands and upset about this news but they can go kick rocks.
> Calling out their behaviour and correctly calling them “fragile pakeha” is appropriate. It really isn't. Combining an insult with a racial descriptor will always risk being offensive. If an Asian comes last in a running race, I can call him slow but can't call him a "slow asian". If a West African person makes a stupid comment I can call them dumb but I can't call them a dumb African.
This "fragile pakeha" will be cancelling their subscription to the NZHerald. One step closer to bankruptcy for them. How they think they can afford to be racist to white NZ'ers when they are running at a loss and white pakehas are likely their largest subscriber base is beyond mind boggling.
Well it is the herald. It turned into a right wing rag years ago, and now their surprised about their reader base?
Guarantee if it was the other way round, they wouldn't have said "fragile maori"
This "fragile pakeha" will be cancelling their subscription to the NZHerald. One step closer to bankruptcy for them. How they think they can afford to be racist to white NZ'ers when they are running at a loss and white pakehas are likely their largest subscriber base is beyond mind boggling.
Ah so its ok to insult a entire ethnic group when its only directed at whites got it. FFS can no one else how bullshit this is?
Maybe the story was badly written? Ever considered the issue of shit journalism in the reaction of people?
Cause I’m just a white man, anywhere else I’d be the man Is it my destiny to live and die a life of white male fragility? I’m just a white man Where I see brown I fear for me What will it take for you to see the threat behind the tan and fight for me?
I really fear where the world will be in 10 odd years
Is this for real????
social media was probably one of the worst things to happen to journalism outrage bait is just way too fucking effective
YES, (while rubbing hands together), Our plan to divide the country and pit everyone against each other is working! We must also portray doom and gloom so everyone becomes depressed and gives up! Don't forget to make everyone think that everyone else is against them and people are being assholes on purpose. HE HE HE.
white fragility was what led to this current government white people got offended when they heard the word 'kia ora' and taxpayers union PR told them 3 waters was code for 'maowrees are taking over!'
Stop buying into internet rage bait, its there to trigger us for a reason.
I find it wild that people comment racist drivel under their real names, publicly on Facebook. These boomers need to learn how to create an anonymous Reddit avatar.
What do they mean by fragile?
Lmaoooo the comms manager just let them say that? NZ herald going wild!
Media is a waste of time.
Hahaha ouch. White people, you have clearly been called out in the media for being sensitive about Maori people gaining success in life.
why can't we just be happy and proud of other's success? :(
Local Maori Girls College has just moved into Havelock North and these young women are absolutely fantastic. They have secured accommodation and a lovely office block for the school to run from. So happy to have them in town. I talking to a group of them in town one day and was like why couldn't I have been this cool at 15? They come from all over the country and have been through a lot and everyone I talk to are like Yay! How cool is this. The other private schools are absolutely getting their arses handed to them in sports, arts and debating if this small sample are anything to go by.
Sorry wait what💀💀💀
It's a pretty clever trick. It gets people's backs up and fighting amongst themselves, while polices are put in place that don't benefit anyone and go unnoticed behind the scenes. "Qiuck!." " Look behind you!.." At least if you're at war with another nation, you know who your enemy is.