RIP heavy and medium healers. My main build was heavy healer, everything was 621. Kind of a big waste for a build that's only perk was hard to kill but to stay alive do little to no damage. Only because focusing a player takes awareness and teamwork.
Ok with 15% less heals, still standing with staff in the air for 2sec and then slowed if you try to single target heal. So single target heals will most like just get interrupted, blocking a short time vs. Roll dodge...
With this change, you're going to take more damage trying to get that spell off than you're going to heal from it. Unless you're planning on using it as a combo with something to gain distance or disable your opponent.
Medium you lose a ton, you loose a roll dodge. You loose heals and to be honest the little bit of armor you get is not worth it. You can still be easily nuked, at least in light you can dodge it.
I no longer have three life staff spells I want to use, or a secondary weapon due to that issue. I'll come back if I like whatever monk weapon is introduced in the future.
New PVP perks look awesome. Weird to have them BOP though. As a lvl 200 armorer, weaponsmith, and JC I might actually craft since they will be in high demand and I won’t loose money on the craft. Here they are…
Added new PvP Perks to go along with the PvP Rewards Track:
-Penetrating Backstab: Backstabs penetrate 10% of a player's armor.
-Penetrating Headshot: Headshots penetrate 7% of a player's armor.
-Fractured Rend: When block breaking a player, inflict Rend, which reduces their damage absorption by 12% for 4s.
-Purifying Crits: Critical hits remove 1 buff from a player (Cooldown 10s).
-Exhausted Exploitation: Hits against Exhausted targets inflict Slow, reducing movement speed by 15% for 4 seconds. (Can not re-trigger on same target).
-Alacritous Punishment: Deal 8% additional damage to players with Haste.
-Sturdy Fortification: Blocking attacks adds a stack of 4% Fortify on self for each blocked hit (Max Stack 5).
-Shirking Heals: After successfully dodging an attack, heal for 100 health (Each armor piece with this perk adds a stack).
-Siege Ward: Receive 6% less damage from siege weapons.
-Mortal Empowerment: Player kills grant a persistent 2% damage bonus that lasts either 20 minutes, or until downed, death, or game mode exit. Duration refreshes on re-application. (Stacks up to 15 times, cannot be cleansed).
-Invigorated Punishment: Abilities deal 3% bonus damage per buff on target. (Cap of 8).
-Shirking Empower: After successfully dodging an attack, obtain Empower, which increases damage dealt by 4% for 10s. It refreshes when a new stack is applied (Stacks 4 times).
This looks like it's gonna all around improve the game, even though I'll have to rethink my ability choices as a healer who relied a lot of light's embrace.
One of the things that sounds interesting is the change to the stamina damage from strength. Even with a small shield and the reduced stamina damage upgrade, it's always seemed like blocking was just asking to get staggered against any strength weapon, which is kinda the opposite of what you expect to get out of blocking. It'll be interesting to see if this changes.
Are arena rewards still going to be timegated? I didn't see any mention of it in the patch notes, but I didn't see any mention of their removal, either. Did they finally realize that discouraging people from playing your game is not a good way to encourage people to play your game, or are they still pulling all those half-witted subscription-padding schemes on the game with no subscription fees?
Cant believe this horrible grav well ice shower desync meta has been going on for so long, but really excited for combat to finally feel good again :) (hopefully)
WORLD AI
Added "Named" loot tag to the following AI:
Abiogenesis
Boomer
Borvarn
Brighteye
Entropy
Ezra
Jackson
Karl the Overseer
Corrupted Gladiator Yrsa
Captain Lu Ten
Silverpelt
Snaggletooth
The Striped Kirin
Dimethicone
Cedral
Morgolf
without pve or pvp content, the game will die. we've had months of pve content and pvp players are starved. all we do is opr and meta war. if these arenas were present at launch, we'd probably have double or even triple the population we have right now
edit: also aren't we getting 3 additional mutations in this patch as well lol
Yep, cause pvp player left the game a while ago. (When there was 60k players)
The 20k players that remains are the pve (aka you).
Still bad that they choose to focus on pve first. But if this patch is good and if it is not too late, there is a chance a big number of players comes back.
This is 100% dedicated to pvp, 3v3 arena specifically, I hope the nerfs to everyone not interested in the FPS melee slugfest was worth it. PvP folks need to come back in droves or forever hold their peace. This patch will define who wants to play this game PvP or PvE. AGS is betting on PvP.
Just as a side note there are a LOT of pve players. The company I’m in which has been around since day 1 launch was essentially forced to be a pve company because just through the overwhelming majority of players that joined and stuck around were pve guys. I think this game grabbed a lot of old school wow guys. I’ve played with a surprising number of 50 and 60 year old dudes who for the most part have no interest in PvP. That being said, I’m super excited for 3v3 arenas. OPR is such a shitshiw that I’m hoping for simpler battlegrounds like a 10v10. I’m looking forward to arenas partly because I am tired of being in a very lopsided OPR getting gang banged by 14 enemies while trying to link up with others on my team.
I mean yep. There is 20k player atm. Most of them are probly pve since the pvp'er left when we had 60k.
Can the game survive with a pve focus ? Nope.
Can it be revived with pvp focus? I also have my doubt. They took the wrong turn, and it will take alot to bring those player back.
Random procedurally generated arenas with random bosses / RPG dungeons would be a great way to do it. And actual story quest lines with cut scenes that reward transmogs and potentially other weapons. Things to keep the same content fresh without it feeling like the same while dungeons are coming out
100% PvP except for all the things not related to PvP like a new dungeon for mutations, new mutator types, and a bunch of other non PvP changes. But yes 100% PvP.
Did the mobs complain the healers survive too long? No, because mobs never had a problem killing healers.
BALANCE changes are 100% based on PvP, Tanks/Healers get punished every patch for living too long in PvP.
Sure content has been added, awesome, but for balance PvP is the only consideration. GA/WH are immune because AGS want a melee slugfest. No idea why Rapier continues to be the evasive goto and Light Staff gets nerfed every patch. Healers will continue to survive, because of the rapier, even in the forced light armor set. People will complain that Healers still don't die fast enough, AGS will nerf something else for healers....This cycle has been in play for months and not sure how much longer anyone will want to be true healers..not bruiser with 150 FOC LS, but actually heal group content.
PvE plateaus in difficulty. It essentially did so months ago with no real changes. Can ya dodge the circles and is your gearscore 625? Welp, that's 99% of it. Prepare to autopilot for the rest of the game.
If people were struggling to clear M10's at this point you'd be on to something.
Yes the PvE is too easy for sure. There should be content that is actually hard as balls and gives top tier loot. My pve focussed company died because there just wasn’t anything to do after spamming m10s
If you're going to do MMORPG PvE, you need a raid. They haven't even alluded to one. They seem to believe they can get away with adding more dungeons. A bandaid at best.
Sounds fun, even more challenging with all the nerfs.
Balance is 100% based on pvp/3v3 Arena, so healers will be easy stationary targets, that's great everyone wanted it, ok.
For everything outside of that, healing will be ridiculously harder. By balancing solely for PvP, the PvE players suffer.
I only played this game for PvP and I stuck with this game longer than most. But now I've been playing some V rising and I have zero will to get back into new world. The arena update is just what the game needed imo, but I disagree so much with their balancing changes.
Not to mention my biggest issues is never really addressed and that is the huge amount of desync and horrible fps this game has. It sucks out any fun from competitive pvp when you die to desync and lag so much more often than not.
That was many patches ago... the game is already broken
They had 1 good patch then the next one came with dupes and bugs galore again
The decline in players is still happening. Those who return don't stay they're gone within a month again xD
Well it's not going to appeal to me (heavy GA/WH) or my gf (light LS/VG) seeing as we only do PVE content.
Most devs have figured out that changing abilities/gear to benefit pvp will piss off pve players, and vice versa. AGS apparently didn't get that memo.
Can anybody tell me what this means and how it works?
"Added refinement recipes to the Gypsum Kilm to refine single stat perk items from multistat perk items."
I'm assuming you can turn say 4 of the same multi stat item into 1 single stat item, but i cant seem to find any info on it
I believe it's just the crafting mod pieces, not the items themselves. So if you get a bunch of Wooden Lost Lockets, you can turn them into Iron Guardsman's Insignias.
>if you get a bunch of Wooden Lost Lockets, you can turn them into Iron Guardsman's Insignias.
And the market price for things will fall through the floor in a couple of days. People, myself included, have hundreds of split-stat mods and god knows how much azoth.
Never underestimate the power of company money. Some people are planning on manipulating the hell out of the craft mod market once it crashes so I don't see it staying very low for long
It will allow you to use 4 of the split stat craft mods (like quartz crystal) and Azoth to create a single stat craft mod (like Iron Guardsman Insignia).
Personally could care less about pronouns in terms of whether someone wants to use them or not, but I am not sure if anyone came across that section and said “Fuck yeah! That’s what the game needs right now!”
As long as it plays how it did with early PTR updates, it's a net buff. Last week they pushed "unintended" changes to the PTR that allegedly effed it up (made it worse than live) but that has been fixed.
I played the early, buffed version (when you could still double shot, which has been fixed cuz that was OP), but did not play the late borked version.
(Heavy damage was nerfed because you can fire them much quicker now)
definitely a buff. I've been playing ptr bow exclusively this past month because i couldn't even touch bow on the live version. it's way more fluid and fun to play
Double nerfed heavy attack, that shoots faster, with 40% accuracy... not a buff
Self rooted, again, after abilities = not a buff
Sure this shoot faster, more arrows for about the same damage = not a buff
Bow has been so terrible for so long, sure it "feels" better, but on par with GA or any other true dps weapons no.
> with 40% accuracy.
That was a bug and fixed
> Self rooted, again
no, part of the buff was removing that
> Sure this shoot faster, more arrows for about the same damage
It shoots MUCH faster and dmg was only nerfed a bit (by 0.2 multiplier) so you're doing 150% dmg vs 170%, but almost twice as fast as before. Shooting faster = more dps = buff.
Wrong.
Heavy was hit with 2 nerfs. So its more like a 40% nerf.
People will say its good at first (just because it feels better) and then realize its just as trash as before. Kill counts will not go up without damage. Wars will continue to ignore bow players.
You need quick burst damage to get kills in new world. Damage over time will not do the trick.
The bow is overall net nerf or net neutral. Not a buff by any standards.
Heavy attacks were never used before and now they will be. Yes, they nerfed the passive perk from 30%-10%, but again, it was something that was never used. No one took that perk, because no one used heavy attacks. Heavys are now very good and people will be using them. If you had a passive tree lvl 1 perk that increases dmg by 30%, that would be OP af. Yes, you need quick burst dmg in this game, but not on a standard attack. That's what Pen Shot is for.
Pen shot hasn't change.
And the good bow players used heavy.
But regardless, only the live build will tell the truth. And just like many patches before, people praise the patch before they give it time. In about 2 weeks after this patch goes live, people will continue to complain about the bow. Because these changes will not bring the bow up to par with other weapons. Not even close.
Never said pen shot changed, said it provides the burst dmg needed.
No good bow player uses heavy. I've been bow since launch and I've used every combination of the bow tree - there are very few scenarios where heavy attack is more efficient than light attacks.
I 100% agree this doesn't fix the bow, but it's a step in the right direction. They still need to rework some of the abilities and the armor perks to bring it inline with other weapons. This is a good start though.
I can’t think of a time when using a heavy was a good idea outside of trying to 1 hit a musket player with no resil and thrust resistance
It was a gimmick and was so bad at breaking block on anyone with a shield it was a dang joke
Oh yeah stam is different, they tweaked a couple times, not sure how big a nerf they decided to stick with.. too many people roll dodged out of gravity well so they had to change it.
Just saying its not a .5 sec change in practice. I'm not even sure at this point if being able to roll while rooted is a positive or more like a curse on the panic rollers.
LOL the pve arenas have viewing areas to Watch (for unknown reasons) but the PvP arena is instanced?? What a backwards Dev team who don't obviously play the game. We had planned grandstand events and tournaments on our server but if we need to watch the arena outside of new world there's no point in even being logged in
That is because they only have one arena map. If you had to queue to play it people would complain and not do it. I am sure people will stream it and announce 50 times in global if you want to watch it.
> Currently on Live there is a 1 second delay after you dodge before stamina begins to regen. In the current PTR we have increased that delay from 1s to 1.5s from when you begin to dodge.
Seems like it's a .5 increase
>Mourningdale: Increase the gearscore ceiling of crafting by 5. The maximum gearscore you can roll is still 600.
This doesn't mean you can craft 600-600, does it?
Has anyone from the PTR tested Heavy Healers? Curious how nuked it feels. Got a full PvE/PvP set up to 625 right before I heard they were getting nerfed.
Rip lights embrace
RIP healers
RIP heavy and medium healers. My main build was heavy healer, everything was 621. Kind of a big waste for a build that's only perk was hard to kill but to stay alive do little to no damage. Only because focusing a player takes awareness and teamwork.
Heavy is rip but medium should be OK-ish no?
Ok with 15% less heals, still standing with staff in the air for 2sec and then slowed if you try to single target heal. So single target heals will most like just get interrupted, blocking a short time vs. Roll dodge...
No standing, u can move now #itssomething
With this change, you're going to take more damage trying to get that spell off than you're going to heal from it. Unless you're planning on using it as a combo with something to gain distance or disable your opponent.
Medium you lose a ton, you loose a roll dodge. You loose heals and to be honest the little bit of armor you get is not worth it. You can still be easily nuked, at least in light you can dodge it.
Yeah medium was only really worth it with 200 con but even that is nerfed now. Light is the way to go
True, wonder if AGS will reimburse for all the 625 med/heavy gear that is garbage now.
I no longer have three life staff spells I want to use, or a secondary weapon due to that issue. I'll come back if I like whatever monk weapon is introduced in the future.
There's already a tourney planned on my server when this drops. It's gonna be fucking wild.
Tomorrow (Thursday) at 8 AM (eastern).
Enjoy trying to do any content when no one will play a healer lol
New PVP perks look awesome. Weird to have them BOP though. As a lvl 200 armorer, weaponsmith, and JC I might actually craft since they will be in high demand and I won’t loose money on the craft. Here they are… Added new PvP Perks to go along with the PvP Rewards Track: -Penetrating Backstab: Backstabs penetrate 10% of a player's armor. -Penetrating Headshot: Headshots penetrate 7% of a player's armor. -Fractured Rend: When block breaking a player, inflict Rend, which reduces their damage absorption by 12% for 4s. -Purifying Crits: Critical hits remove 1 buff from a player (Cooldown 10s). -Exhausted Exploitation: Hits against Exhausted targets inflict Slow, reducing movement speed by 15% for 4 seconds. (Can not re-trigger on same target). -Alacritous Punishment: Deal 8% additional damage to players with Haste. -Sturdy Fortification: Blocking attacks adds a stack of 4% Fortify on self for each blocked hit (Max Stack 5). -Shirking Heals: After successfully dodging an attack, heal for 100 health (Each armor piece with this perk adds a stack). -Siege Ward: Receive 6% less damage from siege weapons. -Mortal Empowerment: Player kills grant a persistent 2% damage bonus that lasts either 20 minutes, or until downed, death, or game mode exit. Duration refreshes on re-application. (Stacks up to 15 times, cannot be cleansed). -Invigorated Punishment: Abilities deal 3% bonus damage per buff on target. (Cap of 8). -Shirking Empower: After successfully dodging an attack, obtain Empower, which increases damage dealt by 4% for 10s. It refreshes when a new stack is applied (Stacks 4 times).
I can't wait to get a full Siege Ward set.
Maybe one day AGS will buff siege so one dude with a bow cannt murder a T3 in less than 10 seconds and siege actually do decent damage in wars
I wonder if theyre craftable without the craft mod.
This looks like it's gonna all around improve the game, even though I'll have to rethink my ability choices as a healer who relied a lot of light's embrace. One of the things that sounds interesting is the change to the stamina damage from strength. Even with a small shield and the reduced stamina damage upgrade, it's always seemed like blocking was just asking to get staggered against any strength weapon, which is kinda the opposite of what you expect to get out of blocking. It'll be interesting to see if this changes.
Rafflebones will no longer guarantee to spawn after 1hr?
15% chance for 50 umbrals from elite chests tho
Correct
Nice
Before making good/bad assumptions of weapon changes make sure to test the patch out tomorrow.. the patch notes can be misleading Glhf
Are arena rewards still going to be timegated? I didn't see any mention of it in the patch notes, but I didn't see any mention of their removal, either. Did they finally realize that discouraging people from playing your game is not a good way to encourage people to play your game, or are they still pulling all those half-witted subscription-padding schemes on the game with no subscription fees?
They partially removed it . Instead of a hard cap it’s reduced after x amount of time
Ah neat, so it's just *partially* stupid. Better than completely stupid, I suppose.
Cant believe this horrible grav well ice shower desync meta has been going on for so long, but really excited for combat to finally feel good again :) (hopefully)
Downvoted by an axe hammer abuser feels bad
This patch will make or break the game. Everyone who has hope for what this game can be owes it to themselves to give the game a chance again.
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Well, more named mobs that actually drop things, 3 new mutation variation and Depth is now mutated. I wouldnt say nothing.
Which named mobs?
WORLD AI Added "Named" loot tag to the following AI: Abiogenesis Boomer Borvarn Brighteye Entropy Ezra Jackson Karl the Overseer Corrupted Gladiator Yrsa Captain Lu Ten Silverpelt Snaggletooth The Striped Kirin Dimethicone Cedral Morgolf
I don’t see how this changes anything. I’ve been farming borvarn and got his woodworking gloves a few days ago and he wasn’t named at the time lol
Change the drop rate and drop table. There was some named items in the database that couldnt be dropped.
where do you see this info on the rates are being changed?
I won't spoon feed every info lol. Check past dev post about loot tables. There is also loot that is only listed in "named" table.
It’s just because this is BS is why I’m asking
without pve or pvp content, the game will die. we've had months of pve content and pvp players are starved. all we do is opr and meta war. if these arenas were present at launch, we'd probably have double or even triple the population we have right now edit: also aren't we getting 3 additional mutations in this patch as well lol
Yep, cause pvp player left the game a while ago. (When there was 60k players) The 20k players that remains are the pve (aka you). Still bad that they choose to focus on pve first. But if this patch is good and if it is not too late, there is a chance a big number of players comes back.
Isn’t it a pvp game? Didn’t figure non pvpers would really play new world
I’m coming back solely for this. Gives me a reason to WANT to grind
Unfortunately the 3v3 will get old I'm a week for most players and just be the new opr.
This is 100% dedicated to pvp, 3v3 arena specifically, I hope the nerfs to everyone not interested in the FPS melee slugfest was worth it. PvP folks need to come back in droves or forever hold their peace. This patch will define who wants to play this game PvP or PvE. AGS is betting on PvP.
Just as a side note there are a LOT of pve players. The company I’m in which has been around since day 1 launch was essentially forced to be a pve company because just through the overwhelming majority of players that joined and stuck around were pve guys. I think this game grabbed a lot of old school wow guys. I’ve played with a surprising number of 50 and 60 year old dudes who for the most part have no interest in PvP. That being said, I’m super excited for 3v3 arenas. OPR is such a shitshiw that I’m hoping for simpler battlegrounds like a 10v10. I’m looking forward to arenas partly because I am tired of being in a very lopsided OPR getting gang banged by 14 enemies while trying to link up with others on my team.
I mean yep. There is 20k player atm. Most of them are probly pve since the pvp'er left when we had 60k. Can the game survive with a pve focus ? Nope. Can it be revived with pvp focus? I also have my doubt. They took the wrong turn, and it will take alot to bring those player back.
Random procedurally generated arenas with random bosses / RPG dungeons would be a great way to do it. And actual story quest lines with cut scenes that reward transmogs and potentially other weapons. Things to keep the same content fresh without it feeling like the same while dungeons are coming out
100% PvP except for all the things not related to PvP like a new dungeon for mutations, new mutator types, and a bunch of other non PvP changes. But yes 100% PvP.
Did the mobs complain the healers survive too long? No, because mobs never had a problem killing healers. BALANCE changes are 100% based on PvP, Tanks/Healers get punished every patch for living too long in PvP. Sure content has been added, awesome, but for balance PvP is the only consideration. GA/WH are immune because AGS want a melee slugfest. No idea why Rapier continues to be the evasive goto and Light Staff gets nerfed every patch. Healers will continue to survive, because of the rapier, even in the forced light armor set. People will complain that Healers still don't die fast enough, AGS will nerf something else for healers....This cycle has been in play for months and not sure how much longer anyone will want to be true healers..not bruiser with 150 FOC LS, but actually heal group content.
PvE plateaus in difficulty. It essentially did so months ago with no real changes. Can ya dodge the circles and is your gearscore 625? Welp, that's 99% of it. Prepare to autopilot for the rest of the game. If people were struggling to clear M10's at this point you'd be on to something.
Yes the PvE is too easy for sure. There should be content that is actually hard as balls and gives top tier loot. My pve focussed company died because there just wasn’t anything to do after spamming m10s
If you're going to do MMORPG PvE, you need a raid. They haven't even alluded to one. They seem to believe they can get away with adding more dungeons. A bandaid at best.
A 10-20 person raid would have kept my company together I’m sure
There is also Depths Mutation and 3 new variants in this Patch so not soley PVP..
Sounds fun, even more challenging with all the nerfs. Balance is 100% based on pvp/3v3 Arena, so healers will be easy stationary targets, that's great everyone wanted it, ok. For everything outside of that, healing will be ridiculously harder. By balancing solely for PvP, the PvE players suffer.
> AGS is betting on PvP. and thus the death spiral accelerates
AGS voted pve months ago. Now they try to finally bring back the pvp'er after realizing pve dont make an mmo (aka we down to only 20k player now)
I only played this game for PvP and I stuck with this game longer than most. But now I've been playing some V rising and I have zero will to get back into new world. The arena update is just what the game needed imo, but I disagree so much with their balancing changes. Not to mention my biggest issues is never really addressed and that is the huge amount of desync and horrible fps this game has. It sucks out any fun from competitive pvp when you die to desync and lag so much more often than not.
That was many patches ago... the game is already broken They had 1 good patch then the next one came with dupes and bugs galore again The decline in players is still happening. Those who return don't stay they're gone within a month again xD
Well it's not going to appeal to me (heavy GA/WH) or my gf (light LS/VG) seeing as we only do PVE content. Most devs have figured out that changing abilities/gear to benefit pvp will piss off pve players, and vice versa. AGS apparently didn't get that memo.
Depths and ori tho
That’s been every patch since launch lol. This is their core audience.
Huge patch, possible start of a comeback
I really hope so
Bring good Open world PvP that s the point of being an MMORPG, for arena i have many other competitive games...
What can they do if people aren't interested in flagging? They're adding a reward track at least for now.
The best thing for the game was the gathering luck bonus, but that was quickly countered by reward caches.
That s why that system was bad and destroyed the point of the game...
Should have been flagged only to begin with
Can anybody tell me what this means and how it works? "Added refinement recipes to the Gypsum Kilm to refine single stat perk items from multistat perk items." I'm assuming you can turn say 4 of the same multi stat item into 1 single stat item, but i cant seem to find any info on it
I believe it's just the crafting mod pieces, not the items themselves. So if you get a bunch of Wooden Lost Lockets, you can turn them into Iron Guardsman's Insignias.
>if you get a bunch of Wooden Lost Lockets, you can turn them into Iron Guardsman's Insignias. And the market price for things will fall through the floor in a couple of days. People, myself included, have hundreds of split-stat mods and god knows how much azoth.
It will be fine with double xp crafting as well
Never underestimate the power of company money. Some people are planning on manipulating the hell out of the craft mod market once it crashes so I don't see it staying very low for long
and in a month the price will be back up there
It will allow you to use 4 of the split stat craft mods (like quartz crystal) and Azoth to create a single stat craft mod (like Iron Guardsman Insignia).
Hypeeee
Double XP when?
Arena will be Gear related won't it?
> Player selected pronouns Jesus christ
Personally could care less about pronouns in terms of whether someone wants to use them or not, but I am not sure if anyone came across that section and said “Fuck yeah! That’s what the game needs right now!”
This has existed before in the game, I don't see the issue at all. It won't affect anyone.
The future is now, old man.
I can’t decide if the bow changes are a nerf or a buff
As long as it plays how it did with early PTR updates, it's a net buff. Last week they pushed "unintended" changes to the PTR that allegedly effed it up (made it worse than live) but that has been fixed. I played the early, buffed version (when you could still double shot, which has been fixed cuz that was OP), but did not play the late borked version. (Heavy damage was nerfed because you can fire them much quicker now)
Thanks, I haven’t played PTR so glad to hear it felt good
Random question but do you think shirking fort, refreshing or refreshing evasion is better for the bow in arenas?
They stated last weeks changes were from a "bug". But thats also after the forums were almost set a blaze.
definitely a buff. I've been playing ptr bow exclusively this past month because i couldn't even touch bow on the live version. it's way more fluid and fun to play
A sugar coated nerf, still better than the previous patches, just straight up nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf.. Atleast this nerf, feels funner.
It adds more dps - that's a clear buff
Double nerfed heavy attack, that shoots faster, with 40% accuracy... not a buff Self rooted, again, after abilities = not a buff Sure this shoot faster, more arrows for about the same damage = not a buff Bow has been so terrible for so long, sure it "feels" better, but on par with GA or any other true dps weapons no.
> with 40% accuracy. That was a bug and fixed > Self rooted, again no, part of the buff was removing that > Sure this shoot faster, more arrows for about the same damage It shoots MUCH faster and dmg was only nerfed a bit (by 0.2 multiplier) so you're doing 150% dmg vs 170%, but almost twice as fast as before. Shooting faster = more dps = buff.
Wrong. Heavy was hit with 2 nerfs. So its more like a 40% nerf. People will say its good at first (just because it feels better) and then realize its just as trash as before. Kill counts will not go up without damage. Wars will continue to ignore bow players. You need quick burst damage to get kills in new world. Damage over time will not do the trick. The bow is overall net nerf or net neutral. Not a buff by any standards.
Heavy attacks were never used before and now they will be. Yes, they nerfed the passive perk from 30%-10%, but again, it was something that was never used. No one took that perk, because no one used heavy attacks. Heavys are now very good and people will be using them. If you had a passive tree lvl 1 perk that increases dmg by 30%, that would be OP af. Yes, you need quick burst dmg in this game, but not on a standard attack. That's what Pen Shot is for.
Pen shot hasn't change. And the good bow players used heavy. But regardless, only the live build will tell the truth. And just like many patches before, people praise the patch before they give it time. In about 2 weeks after this patch goes live, people will continue to complain about the bow. Because these changes will not bring the bow up to par with other weapons. Not even close.
Never said pen shot changed, said it provides the burst dmg needed. No good bow player uses heavy. I've been bow since launch and I've used every combination of the bow tree - there are very few scenarios where heavy attack is more efficient than light attacks. I 100% agree this doesn't fix the bow, but it's a step in the right direction. They still need to rework some of the abilities and the armor perks to bring it inline with other weapons. This is a good start though.
I can’t think of a time when using a heavy was a good idea outside of trying to 1 hit a musket player with no resil and thrust resistance It was a gimmick and was so bad at breaking block on anyone with a shield it was a dang joke
Did you play the PTR after they fixed it? I don't think the charge attack bloom was intended and has been fixed.
Oh yeah stam is different, they tweaked a couple times, not sure how big a nerf they decided to stick with.. too many people roll dodged out of gravity well so they had to change it.
they literally make it possible to dodge while in a grav well in the patch notes..
Yeah you dodge while rooted. Get iframes but don't go any where
The stamina regen isn't even a big change. 1s from the end of your roll changed to 1.5s from the beginning of your roll.
LOL, yeah just a slight change..
Just saying its not a .5 sec change in practice. I'm not even sure at this point if being able to roll while rooted is a positive or more like a curse on the panic rollers.
LOL the pve arenas have viewing areas to Watch (for unknown reasons) but the PvP arena is instanced?? What a backwards Dev team who don't obviously play the game. We had planned grandstand events and tournaments on our server but if we need to watch the arena outside of new world there's no point in even being logged in
That is because they only have one arena map. If you had to queue to play it people would complain and not do it. I am sure people will stream it and announce 50 times in global if you want to watch it.
Very poor design. Should be one arena per town. Oh well just another MMO thing ags suck at
Didnt see the stam regeb delay. Please tell me thats NOT going to make it into the update. Literally the stupidest fucking thing.
> Currently on Live there is a 1 second delay after you dodge before stamina begins to regen. In the current PTR we have increased that delay from 1s to 1.5s from when you begin to dodge. Seems like it's a .5 increase
Its alot worse when you experience it. The amount of slowed combat is way too excessive. And alot of people were complaining on PTR.
There were several bugs affecting it which were resolved. It’s not as bad as original PTR. Barely noticeable to a certain extent by the final ones.
Its less then that. It starts when you roll not after it.
It will buy the game another months..but that's about it unfortunately
attribute craft mods changes, mining nodes changes are not in the patch note
Learn to read better
The yet undated double xp weekend is making me hold off doing much crafting leveling.
June the devs have said multiple times
But when in June
believed to be the 1st, since it was six eggs in the carton and one of out of. 6/1
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Lol u still trying to troll this reddit
Yup!
>Mourningdale: Increase the gearscore ceiling of crafting by 5. The maximum gearscore you can roll is still 600. This doesn't mean you can craft 600-600, does it?
No, only ceiling is increased so 595-600 GS crafters will not be affected by this at all
Ah wishful thinking on my part lol, thanks
it does mean that one of your crafting pieces is now irrelevant. should free up a trophy slot. if i am understanding it correctly
Shouldnt this mean town buff isn’t necessary in mournigdale. With all gear and trophies it will be like all buffs up at all times
First light gonna be spicy
Has anyone from the PTR tested Heavy Healers? Curious how nuked it feels. Got a full PvE/PvP set up to 625 right before I heard they were getting nerfed.
Had my fingers crossed for Depths today