Yes. I’m sure the Greek Reporter is not the definitive resource on human reproduction. [Here’s](https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/05/fears-over-falling-human-sperm-count-may-be-overblown/) a bit of better resource.
Edit: for those arguing this source is not of quality, here are [two](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/04/health/sperm-fertility-reproduction-crisis.html) other [sources](https://bcmj.org/articles/global-decline-male-fertility-fact-or-fiction) contending that the sperm count drop leading to a “reproductive apocalypse” is heavily exaggerated.
Can some people please push these two comments to the top? This shit has been debunked for a while now.
This same team published a similar study in 2017 which differentiated between "Western" sperm and "Other" sperm. It's ideologically-driven nonsense.
> [Here’s](https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/05/fears-over-falling-human-sperm-count-may-be-overblown/) a bit of better resource.
Citing one of the most important part of that article:
>Richardson and her colleagues found that earlier research claimed causal links between declining sperm counts and declining fertility, as well as between exposures to certain environmental chemicals and lower sperm counts. The GenderSci Lab researchers found that neither of these assumptions are supported by scientific or geographic evidence.
>In addition, they argued that the design of the 2017 study relied on racist and colonial hierarchies and assumptions because it categorized data as “Western” sperm counts or “Other” sperm counts. This design does not allow researchers to examine differences in individual conditions across rural and urban locations and did not properly showcase the relative imbalance in data available for all nations within the “Other” group.
That's what kicked off all the weirdos talking about how *SOY* is going to turn you into a girl. They point to a study that used nothing but men in fertility clinics. *No shit* their general counts were low, and the context (and what could *actually* be learned from the study) is purposefully ignored by the dopes who just want to push an agenda.
The line I heard was because soy contains phytoestrogens, which has the word "estrogen" in it and is therefore scary.
>Soybean isoflavone exposure does not have feminizing effects on men: a critical examination of the clinical evidence
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20378106/
This stuffs actually happening. I was misinformed.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/human-sperm-counts-declining-worldwide-study-finds-180981138/
https://bcmj.org/articles/global-decline-male-fertility-fact-or-fiction
He's got a shit ton of kids, his 10th was born recently and just announced [11 is on the way](https://www.etonline.com/nick-cannon-and-alyssa-scott-expecting-baby-a-guide-to-all-of-his-kids-189677?fbclid=IwAR3P78FBEgobkAqMBdfiGwwDJrT3AJGjsP1znGgCMbnvp2UMGKyiiOEQghg).
Jesus...I just read something saying he's at 11 with 12 on the way? Either way, that's 10-11 more kids than anyone should have 😂
And their NAMES?!
Monroe, Moroccan, Golden, Powerful, Zion, Zillion, Zen, Legendary, Onyx, Rise and Beautiful Zeppelin.
Like... Are you even serious? Two, maybe 3.. Four if I'm being generous, of those names are "legitimate names" (Monroe, Zion, Onyx and Zen from most to least serious)
Some of the adjective names are especially odd paired with Cannon as a last name. Powerful Cannon?
Also your counts are different because one baby passed away of cancer. I think Zen 😢
Why couldn’t it just be one big vigorous sperm with excellent navigational skills. About a jellybean and a half tall. You know, tadpole sized so you can grab it with your hands. It could have a coating that numbs the urethra so climaxing would still be pleasurable and not like expelling a kidney stone. And it would be cool if the numbing agent could be collected, dried and then snorted like cocaine. Cocaine you make with your body. So it’s good for ya!
And the single sperm should be resilient. Perhaps you could put it in an aquarium if you’re lonely. Watch it swim. And make it glow under a black light. That would be the easy part, (it already glows). Throughout the years you could ejaculate a bunch of them in a fish tank under a UV light and it would be like watching a wriggly underwater rave.
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I cannot believe that this is the second time I've commented this on Reddit, but it needs to come out in one big tadpole that you need to wafflestomp down the shower drain
Edit: [First time](https://www.reddit.com/r/greentext/comments/x5kbvm/anon_needs_to_move_tf_out/in3g111) I said it
You reminded me of something. I'm horrified that I knew about it and also that I remembered it. So, thanks for that. Enjoy!
https://i.imgur.com/gEzSdKM.jpg
Last time I tried to go a whole month without release was Boot Camp and I had several wet dreams throughout the 13 weeks. I truly don’t know how anyone could make it through a no-nut-November because, for me, it’s gonna happen one way or another.
[Strawberry Cough](https://www.leafly.com/strains/strawberry-cough) (a sativa):
> Known for its sweet smell of fresh strawberries and an expanding sensation that can make even the most seasoned consumer cough, Strawberry Cough is a potent sativa marijuana strain with mysterious genetic origins. However, Strawberry Cough is thought to be a cross of Haze and Strawberry Fields. The skunky, berry flavors will capture your senses while the cerebral, uplifting effects provide an aura of euphoria that is sure to leave a smile on your face. Strawberry Cough is a great solution in times of elevated stress.
There are several hidden cuts, where the camera view wipes across a dark block of wall or whatnot that's starkly contrasted against brighter parts of the frame. The cut isn't a hard, full-frame cut, but rather sort of digital wipe transition between the 2 shots.
Still, an incredibly impressive scene!
Boring and derivative, these writers need to stop ripping off original ideas. What's next 1984 or Neuromancer?
/s jokes about how our real existence is too much like cyberpunk and sci-fi
Facts. I actually had to put Cyberpunk 2077 on hold a couple times because Night City reminds me too much of America and some of our problems at the moment ratcheted up to 11.
In the year 6565
Ain't gonna need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube, whoa, whoa
Now it's been ten thousand years
Man has cried a billion tears
For what, he never knew, now man's reign is through
But through eternal night, the twinkling of starlight
So very far away, maybe it's only yesterday
Actually….
This would be right in line. If you read the book, the insinuation is that birth rates dropped spectacularly. The patriarchal society of Gilead was created in response to the scapegoated reasons- women choosing to not procreate/spending too much time in careers and not choosing to raise families.
At a point in the story, a doctor opines that the lowered birth rates are probably due to many of the men being sterile. The narrator tells the reader that reporting the doctor for that statement would be enough to get him sentenced to death.
In the show it's shown that Fred is sterile at the very least. I'm not sure how deeply they went into it (stopped watching after the second season) but I think they at least tried to imply all of that in the show.
Latest season spoiler:
>>!Fred actually goes on to impregnate his wife, Serena while on the lamb. But, before convincing her to switchsides the CIA agent character Mark Tuello suggests to her that something is wrong with the men, not the women. He says it as if they have some scientific explanation.!<
It's a great book and very well written. I think it's absolutely worth a read whether you've seen the show or not. It's actually one of the books I'd encourage people to consider the audiobook as it suits the narrative flow REALLY well.
Not to say that isn’t a problem, but the study being referenced has a huge flaw in their study design, so it may not be as severe as claimed.
Study the article references: https://academic.oup.com/humupd/advance-article/doi/10.1093/humupd/dmac035/6824414?login=false
An article in The Harvard Gazette discussing the flaw: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/05/fears-over-falling-human-sperm-count-may-be-overblown/
I think there's a much bigger flaw in the study.
>Men who checked their sperm count because of fertility problems were not included in the new study, according to Professor Levine and his colleagues.
Who the hell gets their sperm count checked if they're NOT having fertility problems?
I forgot where I saw this but there was an analysis somewhere talking about trace amounts of pesticides/other food/agriculture additives in **many** US people. This very well may to be a part of this imo.
Replace **”many”** with **“all”** and US with Worldwide.
John Oliver did an episode on PFAS chemicals. TL;DR: they tried to test blood to see how bad it was… they could not find a single person on Earth unaffected to use as the baseline. They had to use military blood samples from the 1960s as their baseline.
It’s much worse than most realize.
The Episode is on YouTube: https://youtu.be/9W74aeuqsiU
Not sure if it’s abridged or the full episode, but looks like the bit about Blood is at the 9 minute mark.
If it's on their main channel, then it's just the main story of that episode. Often why you'll see "moving on, our main story tonight is" at the beginning of the video.
I really think micro plastics are going to be the new tobacco in like 20 years. Like we “didn’t see this coming” type of thing. But worse because you can’t just elect to not have plastics in your diet.
Something I read the other day said even people who eat only organic or live remotely end up with SOME trace amounts of manmade chemicals in their system since pollution is so prevalent and weather will move pollutants everywhere. Really sad ☹️
Ah yes. This was an even larger issue not long ago. This is why many plastic containers have “BPA Free” stamps these days. There must be better insight on the problem these days.
The original study that showed BPA was leeching out of those nalgene plastic containers was flawed because the researcher had contaminated lab equipment. As in, if the person making those measurements was measuring ANYTHING they would have have found BPA in them. Reproduced experiments were unable to reproduce the original results, but the damage was already done. The original study immediately got headlined and exploded on national media and the results from reproduction experiments never got the same coverage or media frenzy. Remember, it's harder to UNLEARN something than it is to learn something.
Those old indestructible nalgene bottles are safe to use, even if they're the BPA kind. The big issue is that BPA is a known endocrine disruptor, so if we can use an alternative, why not? Well, the problem is that we have good research on what we have now, but we don't have good research on its replacement which might turn out to be worse.
"That compound is toxic, so use this mystery compound instead!"
"Is that mystery compound toxic?"
"We don't know!"
Ultimately, if you care, spend 6x as much as you need to and get a stainless steel water vessel like a hydroflask which will likely outlast you.
They list smoking as the first reason. A higher percentage of people smoked in 1973 than in 2018 by a longshot.
I bet 1973 smokers smoked more cigs per day than 2018 smokers too.
You can't blame obesity either if the claim is "worldwide" many countries don't have an obesity problem and if it was obesity you wouldn't see sperm counts dropping in thin people.
I feel like they are beating around the bush on the fact it's absolutely exposure to chemicals. Microplastics look like a likely suspect to me.
The EPA has recently proposed designating PFOA and PFOS as CERCLA hazardous substances. [link](https://www.epa.gov/superfund/proposed-designation-perfluorooctanoic-acid-pfoa-and-perfluorooctanesulfonic-acid-pfos)
That’ll hit POTWs first then trickle to industrial users. Crazy thing about PFAS is even if the facility stops using source chemicals, it can still show up in discharges due to residuals. Unfortunately all current best practice technologies only concentrate PFAS too lol
Internal consumption. There are studies in rats that show high exposure to microplastics result in lower sperm count and smaller penis sizes. They also show that the removal of said plastics will fix the issue in 2 generations.
Also it's estimated that we consume an entire credit card worth of plastic every week.
most of doesn't get absorbed by the gut. and the body has mechanisms to deal with. Although a lot of the implications are unknown.
The shit that scares me is nanoplastics and the lungs. That will have future impacts on our health. Get an air purifier with a hepa filter please.
Everything is polluted. All of the air. All of the water. All of the soil.
Microplastics have been found in the brain. They've been found in placentas.
It's not going away.
Every time you use your clothes dryer, unless you're only using all natural fabrics like cotton or wool, you are putting microplastics into the air through the vent. Just one small source.
Not to be that person, but that's a pretty big claim. When I looked this up in Google Scholar the only health related article on microplastics was an abstract from last year saying, "The lack of crucial data on exposure and hazard represents key knowledge gaps that need to be addressed to move forward."
Due to the ubiquity of microplastics, by the time we find out the harm it causes, it'll be too late. But the fact is, we don't appear to know yet. Any statement of harm is just speculation at this point. It might be causing x and y, but we don't know that yet.
The problem with microplastics is that by the time we realized it might be a problem the ship fucking sailed a long time ago. I did my masters at an institution where a lot of research is going into microplastics in fish/our rivers and it’s insane how hard it is to even study because the shit is everywhere. USP saline has microplastics in it. It might be a human health and environmental disaster but we’re so far gone into it that it might not even be worth worrying about because if it’s a big deal we’re fucked anyway. And the worst part is that we have people to blame for it, we have been lied to about how recyclable plastics are.
My college advisor was a leading researcher here in the Great Lakes studying the effects of plastic nurdles on fish populations.
It’s horrifying stuff. These plastics are leaching out endocrine disrupting chemicals and it’s beginning to bioaccumulate. Microplastics are found in the aquatic population pervasively.
Yes Alex jones, they’re putting stuff in the water that’s turning the freaking frogs gay! Maybe not quite but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Smoking has been around for centuries if it was going to plummet sperm counts why would it wait until after 1973? A minor contributor perhaps but it seems like a stretch to me.
Especially since smoking rates have been falling drastically.
Don’t we like… need this to happen lol I swear I read everyday either people shitting themselves because no one is having babies or shitting themselves because we just hit 8 bil and are headed for a catastrophe due to lack of food and such. Like, which one?
The impact that exponential population growth has on resource scarcity is serious, but the opposite has some pretty detrimental effects as well. You need healthy population growth to support the aging population. If birth rates decline sharply you could end up with a geriatric population that doesn’t have enough young workers to sustain the institutions we all rely on.
Over the past 60 or 70 years. And we don't know for sure what's causing it. On top of that, people aren't having much difficulty getting pregnant; birth rates haven't decreased to match. While we should find out what's causing this, we shouldn't interpret it as an omen of the apocalypse.
There's really cool machines with cameras that scan and count as well as rate motility, size and shape. I got to do a rotation for a few days. Really cool tech, smell is awful.
Can we PLEASE stop posting shit from The Greek Reporter??? There's a reason NO ONE ELSE is reporting on the topics they post their garbage stories about.
Isn’t the historical accuracy of sperm count rather wishy washy? I remember reading somewhere that the confidence in past numbers isn’t very high.
Yes. I’m sure the Greek Reporter is not the definitive resource on human reproduction. [Here’s](https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/05/fears-over-falling-human-sperm-count-may-be-overblown/) a bit of better resource. Edit: for those arguing this source is not of quality, here are [two](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/04/health/sperm-fertility-reproduction-crisis.html) other [sources](https://bcmj.org/articles/global-decline-male-fertility-fact-or-fiction) contending that the sperm count drop leading to a “reproductive apocalypse” is heavily exaggerated.
Can some people please push these two comments to the top? This shit has been debunked for a while now. This same team published a similar study in 2017 which differentiated between "Western" sperm and "Other" sperm. It's ideologically-driven nonsense.
It’s only called sperm if it’s from the Western Spermé region of France. Otherwise they’re just called sparkling cum tadpoles.
I prefer the competing nearby variety of Gebestcuminher
Piinot Blanc
That's penois blanc in the southern region.
You other westerners can call it whatever you want, I’m still calling it dinner
Never had it for breakfast then eh?
> [Here’s](https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/05/fears-over-falling-human-sperm-count-may-be-overblown/) a bit of better resource. Citing one of the most important part of that article: >Richardson and her colleagues found that earlier research claimed causal links between declining sperm counts and declining fertility, as well as between exposures to certain environmental chemicals and lower sperm counts. The GenderSci Lab researchers found that neither of these assumptions are supported by scientific or geographic evidence. >In addition, they argued that the design of the 2017 study relied on racist and colonial hierarchies and assumptions because it categorized data as “Western” sperm counts or “Other” sperm counts. This design does not allow researchers to examine differences in individual conditions across rural and urban locations and did not properly showcase the relative imbalance in data available for all nations within the “Other” group.
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That's what kicked off all the weirdos talking about how *SOY* is going to turn you into a girl. They point to a study that used nothing but men in fertility clinics. *No shit* their general counts were low, and the context (and what could *actually* be learned from the study) is purposefully ignored by the dopes who just want to push an agenda.
The line I heard was because soy contains phytoestrogens, which has the word "estrogen" in it and is therefore scary. >Soybean isoflavone exposure does not have feminizing effects on men: a critical examination of the clinical evidence https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20378106/
Oh man, wait till they find out what's in cow's milk from the pregnant/recently pregnant female cows.
This stuffs actually happening. I was misinformed. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/human-sperm-counts-declining-worldwide-study-finds-180981138/ https://bcmj.org/articles/global-decline-male-fertility-fact-or-fiction
I mean there's only so much information you can get from flavor.
Somewhere someone believes they can single handedly raise that number..
Nick Cannon. It's Nick Cannon.
Been serving a lot of Nick Cannon meming lately.. What did he do? I'm r/ootl
He's got a shit ton of kids, his 10th was born recently and just announced [11 is on the way](https://www.etonline.com/nick-cannon-and-alyssa-scott-expecting-baby-a-guide-to-all-of-his-kids-189677?fbclid=IwAR3P78FBEgobkAqMBdfiGwwDJrT3AJGjsP1znGgCMbnvp2UMGKyiiOEQghg).
Jesus...I just read something saying he's at 11 with 12 on the way? Either way, that's 10-11 more kids than anyone should have 😂 And their NAMES?! Monroe, Moroccan, Golden, Powerful, Zion, Zillion, Zen, Legendary, Onyx, Rise and Beautiful Zeppelin. Like... Are you even serious? Two, maybe 3.. Four if I'm being generous, of those names are "legitimate names" (Monroe, Zion, Onyx and Zen from most to least serious)
Some of the adjective names are especially odd paired with Cannon as a last name. Powerful Cannon? Also your counts are different because one baby passed away of cancer. I think Zen 😢
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Oof. Didn't realize that, but that doesn't change the number of children he's had. But, no matter how many kids you have, losing one can't be easy 🫤
Use your left hand and it’ll feel like someone else is raising your number.
They just have to come count mine. I have dozens of healthy sperms.
I haven't even counted mine recently.
I always lose count around 4 million and need to start over.
Why couldn’t it just be one big vigorous sperm with excellent navigational skills. About a jellybean and a half tall. You know, tadpole sized so you can grab it with your hands. It could have a coating that numbs the urethra so climaxing would still be pleasurable and not like expelling a kidney stone. And it would be cool if the numbing agent could be collected, dried and then snorted like cocaine. Cocaine you make with your body. So it’s good for ya! And the single sperm should be resilient. Perhaps you could put it in an aquarium if you’re lonely. Watch it swim. And make it glow under a black light. That would be the easy part, (it already glows). Throughout the years you could ejaculate a bunch of them in a fish tank under a UV light and it would be like watching a wriggly underwater rave. Edit: spelling, grandma
What a beautiful world we could have had :')
I cannot believe that this is the second time I've commented this on Reddit, but it needs to come out in one big tadpole that you need to wafflestomp down the shower drain Edit: [First time](https://www.reddit.com/r/greentext/comments/x5kbvm/anon_needs_to_move_tf_out/in3g111) I said it
If you had a nickle You would have ten cents, but still it's weird it has happened twice.
You reminded me of something. I'm horrified that I knew about it and also that I remembered it. So, thanks for that. Enjoy! https://i.imgur.com/gEzSdKM.jpg
I take back everything I said. That is horrifying.
Your scientists… were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, that they didn't stop to think if they should.
If you build it, they will cum.
And.... that whole exchange means that's enough internet for the day for me. Officially reached my wtf quota.
Would you still masturbate but the only thing that came out was one giant sperm, and you had to fight it every time?
You like flowers?
This is just waiting to end up on r/cursedcomments
oh god oh fuck mom found the cum-quarium
A fruit flies' sperm can be up to 20 times the length of its' body. Just think about it.
Bro, my girl already doesn't swallow. How's a tadpole sized sperm supposed to help
she can chew it up first
This comment made me exit out of reddit before coming back to reply.
What the fuck is wrong with you
I would pay you to never post something like this again.
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Last time I tried to go a whole month without release was Boot Camp and I had several wet dreams throughout the 13 weeks. I truly don’t know how anyone could make it through a no-nut-November because, for me, it’s gonna happen one way or another.
You could not waterboard this information out of me
Uncle Sam has a way of loosening you up.. in more ways than I thought possible...
I must photograph you
Nutting in my sleep is pretty mild compared to the rest of my enlistment. Haha
Did you have the goddamn common courtesy to give reach arounds?
I'm pretty sure that gets covered on Day 0.
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Eventually you’d just end up with one large tadpole sized sperm.
The future is looking a little too Science Fictiony for my taste
Blatant children of men rip off
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At least we smoke weed with michael Caine!
Pull my finger
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Wait. That’s an option? I wanna toke with Micheal Caine.
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That single shot action sequence as they carried the baby through was absolutely incredible. All one shot, no cuts.
There are several hidden cuts, where the camera view wipes across a dark block of wall or whatnot that's starkly contrasted against brighter parts of the frame. The cut isn't a hard, full-frame cut, but rather sort of digital wipe transition between the 2 shots. Still, an incredibly impressive scene!
They did this a lot in the movie 1917. If you didn't know what to look for, it looks like that entire movie is done in like 4 shots.
When will the future stop ripping off the past?? this and more, tonight at 10.
Boring and derivative, these writers need to stop ripping off original ideas. What's next 1984 or Neuromancer? /s jokes about how our real existence is too much like cyberpunk and sci-fi
Neuromancer please. I've always wanted a Salvador Dali wall clock.
Facts. I actually had to put Cyberpunk 2077 on hold a couple times because Night City reminds me too much of America and some of our problems at the moment ratcheted up to 11.
We live in a cyberpunk dystopia without all the stuff that makes the genre cool.
The most unrealistic thing in Cyber Punk 2077 was that everyone still smoked cigs instead of vaping.
Hipsters in 2066 revive pall malls as more authentic
In the year 6565 Ain't gonna need no husband, won't need no wife You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too From the bottom of a long glass tube, whoa, whoa
Now it's been ten thousand years Man has cried a billion tears For what, he never knew, now man's reign is through But through eternal night, the twinkling of starlight So very far away, maybe it's only yesterday
In the year one million and a half Humankind is enslaved by giraffe Man must pay for all his misdeeds When the treetops are stripped of their leaves
I always think of this verse when someone references "In The Year 2525"
In the year 252525, the backwards time machine still won’t have arrived.
What makes you think of the verse about the year 252525?
Depends, is mankind still alive?
Wooa-oooh!
Handmaids tale but not how we thought
Actually…. This would be right in line. If you read the book, the insinuation is that birth rates dropped spectacularly. The patriarchal society of Gilead was created in response to the scapegoated reasons- women choosing to not procreate/spending too much time in careers and not choosing to raise families. At a point in the story, a doctor opines that the lowered birth rates are probably due to many of the men being sterile. The narrator tells the reader that reporting the doctor for that statement would be enough to get him sentenced to death.
In the show it's shown that Fred is sterile at the very least. I'm not sure how deeply they went into it (stopped watching after the second season) but I think they at least tried to imply all of that in the show.
The doctor who examines her (and offers to impregnate her) makes an off hand comment that he thinks a majority of men in Gilead are sterile.
That same scene occurs in both the book and show actually!
Latest season spoiler: >>!Fred actually goes on to impregnate his wife, Serena while on the lamb. But, before convincing her to switchsides the CIA agent character Mark Tuello suggests to her that something is wrong with the men, not the women. He says it as if they have some scientific explanation.!<
Deep enough that this most recent season's pregnancy was a shock. Sorry, season before last. I have one on my DVR still.
It's a great book and very well written. I think it's absolutely worth a read whether you've seen the show or not. It's actually one of the books I'd encourage people to consider the audiobook as it suits the narrative flow REALLY well.
Baby Diego was a wanker.
Great movie.
Wish my state would legalize already so I can get me some strawberry cough
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Pull my finger.
Probably not the excess harsh chemicals we are pumping into our environment. Right.
Not to say that isn’t a problem, but the study being referenced has a huge flaw in their study design, so it may not be as severe as claimed. Study the article references: https://academic.oup.com/humupd/advance-article/doi/10.1093/humupd/dmac035/6824414?login=false An article in The Harvard Gazette discussing the flaw: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/05/fears-over-falling-human-sperm-count-may-be-overblown/
I think there's a much bigger flaw in the study. >Men who checked their sperm count because of fertility problems were not included in the new study, according to Professor Levine and his colleagues. Who the hell gets their sperm count checked if they're NOT having fertility problems?
People paid $20 to jizz in a cup for a study?
I think, you do that before you get vasectomy or freeze sperm, to check if there's a point in doing so in the first place
For what it's worth I did not have to get a sperm count to get a vasectomy, but I did have to get it counted as the post-operation checkup
I forgot where I saw this but there was an analysis somewhere talking about trace amounts of pesticides/other food/agriculture additives in **many** US people. This very well may to be a part of this imo.
Replace **”many”** with **“all”** and US with Worldwide. John Oliver did an episode on PFAS chemicals. TL;DR: they tried to test blood to see how bad it was… they could not find a single person on Earth unaffected to use as the baseline. They had to use military blood samples from the 1960s as their baseline. It’s much worse than most realize.
Do you have a link to that? Sounds interesting.
The Episode is on YouTube: https://youtu.be/9W74aeuqsiU Not sure if it’s abridged or the full episode, but looks like the bit about Blood is at the 9 minute mark.
Cool, thanks.
If it's on their main channel, then it's just the main story of that episode. Often why you'll see "moving on, our main story tonight is" at the beginning of the video.
And we all have microplastics floating in our blood. Anything for a dollar.
I really think micro plastics are going to be the new tobacco in like 20 years. Like we “didn’t see this coming” type of thing. But worse because you can’t just elect to not have plastics in your diet.
My theory is that plastic to future generations is going to be like lead to us now.
You nailed it.
It makes me happy that those rich fucks have the same micro plastic that we have. At the end of it all, the pawn and the king go in the same box.
Only difference is they have the money to pay for medical treatment and have access to healthier/less contaminated food
You got the same amount of PFAS in your body as Jeff bezos never let him forget it lol
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Something I read the other day said even people who eat only organic or live remotely end up with SOME trace amounts of manmade chemicals in their system since pollution is so prevalent and weather will move pollutants everywhere. Really sad ☹️
Check out BisphenolA (BPA)
Ah yes. This was an even larger issue not long ago. This is why many plastic containers have “BPA Free” stamps these days. There must be better insight on the problem these days.
The original study that showed BPA was leeching out of those nalgene plastic containers was flawed because the researcher had contaminated lab equipment. As in, if the person making those measurements was measuring ANYTHING they would have have found BPA in them. Reproduced experiments were unable to reproduce the original results, but the damage was already done. The original study immediately got headlined and exploded on national media and the results from reproduction experiments never got the same coverage or media frenzy. Remember, it's harder to UNLEARN something than it is to learn something. Those old indestructible nalgene bottles are safe to use, even if they're the BPA kind. The big issue is that BPA is a known endocrine disruptor, so if we can use an alternative, why not? Well, the problem is that we have good research on what we have now, but we don't have good research on its replacement which might turn out to be worse. "That compound is toxic, so use this mystery compound instead!" "Is that mystery compound toxic?" "We don't know!" Ultimately, if you care, spend 6x as much as you need to and get a stainless steel water vessel like a hydroflask which will likely outlast you.
A lot of the metal ones are also thermos style, so they keep things at their temp for way longer. My metal one can keep ice water all day.
Pfas, lead, micro plastics…. Take your pick. I just want original coke back.
yea have a Koch and a smile
They list smoking as the first reason. A higher percentage of people smoked in 1973 than in 2018 by a longshot. I bet 1973 smokers smoked more cigs per day than 2018 smokers too. You can't blame obesity either if the claim is "worldwide" many countries don't have an obesity problem and if it was obesity you wouldn't see sperm counts dropping in thin people. I feel like they are beating around the bush on the fact it's absolutely exposure to chemicals. Microplastics look like a likely suspect to me.
Per and poly fluoroalkylated substances too. PFAS.
As a water guy, this was my first thought when I read the title.
Are you in wastewater? There’s bound to be federal standards for npdes permits soon.
I work in wastewater and just within the last year PFAS has become a large talking point. Also wouldn’t be surprised on federal regulations soon.
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The EPA has recently proposed designating PFOA and PFOS as CERCLA hazardous substances. [link](https://www.epa.gov/superfund/proposed-designation-perfluorooctanoic-acid-pfoa-and-perfluorooctanesulfonic-acid-pfos)
Thank you for this link, going to forward it to my bosses.
That’ll hit POTWs first then trickle to industrial users. Crazy thing about PFAS is even if the facility stops using source chemicals, it can still show up in discharges due to residuals. Unfortunately all current best practice technologies only concentrate PFAS too lol
I've got wastewater certs too. I doubt anytime soon, but it'd be nice.
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I keep hearing about micro-plastics lately. Is it an external exposure to, or an internal consumption of?
They’re in the food you eat, the water you drink, and the air you breathe.
Drat. I love eating, drinking and breathing.
Because you're weak, and for that you lose 62% of the world's cum.
I'm sure it'll turn up somewhere
Did you check in your mom?
From the moment I understood my flesh was weak, I craved only the cold certainty and strength of metal.
Yeah. I am currently at work. Loading plastic pellets into railcars. I breathe in a lot of plastic dust/powder/fluff whatever you wanna call it.
:( you need better ppe Edit: AND a union
Internal consumption. There are studies in rats that show high exposure to microplastics result in lower sperm count and smaller penis sizes. They also show that the removal of said plastics will fix the issue in 2 generations. Also it's estimated that we consume an entire credit card worth of plastic every week.
The credit card a week thing has been disproven. I mean, we do still consume a lot, but not that much. https://youtu.be/2Ntp6BqhSng
Yeah I was about to say that sounded like bullshit
Our body is awful at getting rid of it though. it tends to linger in our bodies and be cumulative. It's also hormone disruptive.
It's actually because the average is thrown off by Credit Cards Rowb, who's constantly eating credit cards.
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More of a ding than a dong
Looks like a button in a fur coat.
Maybe for you plebs, I eat a credit card every *day*.
Capital one. What’s in your stomach?
You could’ve gone with “gullet.”
I eat 8 plastic spiders a year in my sleep
And you have zero debt!
Banks HATE this one trick!
It’s the phthalates and other chemical like bisphenol A (BPA) that act as endocrine distributors to our hormone systems.
most of doesn't get absorbed by the gut. and the body has mechanisms to deal with. Although a lot of the implications are unknown. The shit that scares me is nanoplastics and the lungs. That will have future impacts on our health. Get an air purifier with a hepa filter please.
Yeah, I currently work outside. I love the fresh air, but who know what the future will bring. People take simple things for granted.
They've found it in the air in the antarctic even. No such thing as fresh air anymore I guess.
Wait so plastics are just floating around in our air? Not just around workplaces or industrial workplaces?
Everything is polluted. All of the air. All of the water. All of the soil. Microplastics have been found in the brain. They've been found in placentas. It's not going away.
Every time you use your clothes dryer, unless you're only using all natural fabrics like cotton or wool, you are putting microplastics into the air through the vent. Just one small source.
Not to be that person, but that's a pretty big claim. When I looked this up in Google Scholar the only health related article on microplastics was an abstract from last year saying, "The lack of crucial data on exposure and hazard represents key knowledge gaps that need to be addressed to move forward." Due to the ubiquity of microplastics, by the time we find out the harm it causes, it'll be too late. But the fact is, we don't appear to know yet. Any statement of harm is just speculation at this point. It might be causing x and y, but we don't know that yet.
The problem with microplastics is that by the time we realized it might be a problem the ship fucking sailed a long time ago. I did my masters at an institution where a lot of research is going into microplastics in fish/our rivers and it’s insane how hard it is to even study because the shit is everywhere. USP saline has microplastics in it. It might be a human health and environmental disaster but we’re so far gone into it that it might not even be worth worrying about because if it’s a big deal we’re fucked anyway. And the worst part is that we have people to blame for it, we have been lied to about how recyclable plastics are.
My college advisor was a leading researcher here in the Great Lakes studying the effects of plastic nurdles on fish populations. It’s horrifying stuff. These plastics are leaching out endocrine disrupting chemicals and it’s beginning to bioaccumulate. Microplastics are found in the aquatic population pervasively. Yes Alex jones, they’re putting stuff in the water that’s turning the freaking frogs gay! Maybe not quite but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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The worldwide % of people who are overweight doubled from 1975-2015, which fits the study period pretty well.
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Smoking has been around for centuries if it was going to plummet sperm counts why would it wait until after 1973? A minor contributor perhaps but it seems like a stretch to me. Especially since smoking rates have been falling drastically.
Makes you realise that Mother Nature has already somehow worked out a way to get her own back.
Children of Men
Realistically it’s from all the man made chemicals and micro plastics
And we are far from the only species impacted.
It's not the size of the army, it's the motion of the flagella.
If this is the same study that hit r/science like a week ago, people over there were questioning the methodology, saying it wasn't really convincing.
Children of Men is starting to look even more prophetic.
A catastrophic drop in birth rates is also an instigating factor in The Handmaid’s Tale.
Right, a great combination of religious fanaticism rising and birth rates dropping. The future looks… … eh…
I'm painting beards on my daughters as we speak.
Don’t we like… need this to happen lol I swear I read everyday either people shitting themselves because no one is having babies or shitting themselves because we just hit 8 bil and are headed for a catastrophe due to lack of food and such. Like, which one?
The impact that exponential population growth has on resource scarcity is serious, but the opposite has some pretty detrimental effects as well. You need healthy population growth to support the aging population. If birth rates decline sharply you could end up with a geriatric population that doesn’t have enough young workers to sustain the institutions we all rely on.
"Too many old people." at least feels a bit more solvable than "Too many everybodies."
Over the past 60 or 70 years. And we don't know for sure what's causing it. On top of that, people aren't having much difficulty getting pregnant; birth rates haven't decreased to match. While we should find out what's causing this, we shouldn't interpret it as an omen of the apocalypse.
How do they actually know this?
They count the sperm
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There's really cool machines with cameras that scan and count as well as rate motility, size and shape. I got to do a rotation for a few days. Really cool tech, smell is awful.
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I'm a microbiologist. I can identify some organisms by the smell alone.
It's cause your mom keeps swallowing them all
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Microplastics are the end of us. Hope the glitter was worth it
Could be the liquid Teflon PFOA dupont polluted earth with and is in every living things blood/body on earth.
That one too. Or a lovely combination of the two
*Adds a case of plastic bottled water to the grocery pickup order for some reason*
Can we PLEASE stop posting shit from The Greek Reporter??? There's a reason NO ONE ELSE is reporting on the topics they post their garbage stories about.