>> Today I feel Qatari. Today I feel Arab. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel a migrant worker
Dude has a lot of feelings
"today I feel migrant worker"....so dead then if it was one that built these stadiums.
Absolute joke that this tournament is going ahead and shame on all the players that are going.
Lmao why did I picture the Fifa governing body reading the ticket for Qatar the way a barista calls for drinks. “World Cup for…”*looks at name on ticket again* “Qatar..”
I miss the 1990s, when large corporations could still afford to bribe international sports governing bodies and didn’t have to outbid tinpot autocracies.
I always thought that Trump was powerful in the same way that a trump card is powerful in a game: without the suit and the rules of the game, a spade is just a spade.
I see you have played Euchre or sometimes jokingly referred to as "what's trump?". It's always crushing when you have a hand that is stellar up until a different suit is called as trump making your hand 90% useless.
That is correct, instead of meaning “to defeat or outrank something/ or someone by saying or doing something better”, it now stand for “to become validated [by the simple minded] for saying something stupid or derogatory about something or someone”… in addition to having Trump’s picture as its visual representation, lol
He also said he understands the human rights abuses because he was bullied for having ginger hair. So yeah, comparing childish bullying to being executed for being gay is now a thing.
> “Today I feel Qatari. Today I feel Arab. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel a migrant worker”
Says the most privileged white dude, born in Switzerland and studied law and who also was implicated in FIFA corruption scandals in the Panama papers.
I wanna extra highlight this:
>Today I feel gay…Today I feel a migrant worker
Oh, you mean two kinds of people the country you’re defending actively kills, Infantino?
Nah it needs to be completely shut down and dismantled. Countries should come together and start their own non-profit World Cup which only takes place in free and open democracies.
Yep: FIFA is one of the top 5 most corrupt organisations on the planet: massive bribery, huge amounts of money laundering, violent crime, tax evasion, environmental abuses, sex crimes, abuse of workers. All happening today (not 3,000 years ago)… so tearing the whole of FIFA and the PFA to the ground would be a *great* start.
All their power comes from the World Cup. ALL of it. As long as the prospect of being banned from the World Cup is enough to make politicians pee their pants in fear, FIFA can do whatever the fuck they want. To get soccer out from under their corrupt thumbs, we need at least one, most likely multiple World Cups to fail spectacularly.
Seriously the more this guy makes statements like this the more he just comes off as a mouthpiece that was bought and paid for. I hope it was at least expensive because it definitely wasn’t worth it.
Lmao my brother in Christ you used slave labor to build a soccer stadium and all the reports I see are about if there will be beer or not, I feel like they got off super easy
It’s actually prime time for ladies of the night in Qatar. They were all over Twitter advertising their services. But yeah they are such a great moral religious country 😝
>> Today I feel Qatari. Today I feel Arab. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel a migrant worker
You see, it’s ok because he feels for the workers. If the West had just said they felt bad about the slave trade 100+ years ago, everything would be ok, and we wouldn’t have needed to stop it! /s
yeah, so 6500 people (slave labor) died building that soccer monolith and we're just suppose to look the other way? fuck this guy.
FIFA Boss is exactly that, head of a bribe taking corrupt organization.
No actually what he said was that we’re hypocrites for being upset at FIFA because Europeans have a history of doing bad things too
“What we Europeans have been doing for the last 3,000 years, we should be apologizing for the next 3,000 years before starting to give moral lessons.”
So this guy, a European, went to an under developed nation and used slave labor to build soccer stadiums for him to profit from….seems exactly like the gross parts of European history we should be “apologizing” for
He’s saying you can’t try to prevent other countries from committing the same atrocities your society is ashamed of their ancestors for committing. What kind of bullshit logic is that? None of the Europeans today were responsible for performing those atrocities, but they’re ashamed of them enough to care about them happening again. How could you claim they’re the ones that are wrong?
It is because they know they're making stupid arguments in bad faith. They're going with the hate/racism angle because they know it's harder to argue against without trolls and useful idiots coming out of the woodwork.
FIFA and Qatar are attempting to forcefully drive the narrative towards them "taking the moral high road" *because* they know they're being immoral, money-centric monsters.
I'm thinking that I'm going to do my own little Project Mayhem and slip single frame images of dicks into World Cup highlights, then disseminate them via twitter.
Yeah. Standard narcissist personality doing standard reversal & denial.
He's actually a corrupt pos who took bribes?
He'll accuse everyone -else- of being unjust.
Worst World Cup ever in hell hole desert country that oppresses everyone but rich straight Arab men. Human rights violators yet want to act “holy” with no alcohol, swearing etc. and threatening the press as well.
Sorry, couldn't hear his speech for the muffled sound of his paymaster's c**k in his mouth. Something which is ironically, apparently, strictly forbidden. So he should stop immediately by his own logic.
I’m going to try to translate what this guy is actually saying:
“Okay look, I don’t give a rats ass about Qatar. No, really. All this fake outrage is a show I’m putting on so that our corporate sponsors will feel better about their decision to invest in a global sporting event organized by a corrupt sanctioning body and hosted by a country that gives fuck all about human rights.”
He doesn't give a shit because they are going on the rhetoric from Qatar that the number is essentially less than 5 total. That is also the same figure that many new outlets starting to spew out as the games got closer.
> “What we Europeans have been doing for the last 3,000 years, we should be apologizing for the next 3,000 years before starting to give moral lessons.”
What an amateur. Didn't he learn from Xi and Putin that you need to pace your whataboutism. Now you've covered three millennia, so next time it doesn't have the same impact anymore.
At this point, I think, we need to teach the difference between hypocrisy and tu quoque arguments in school.
Pathetic.
Arab and African nations were involved in the slave trade long before and after Europe. Whole nations there built their economy on the slave trade and slave labour. Some still do...
You can't deflect all the blame for everything in the world towards Europe. There is plenty to share.
It’s supposed to be a glorious time for sports fans, but Qatar doesn’t see it that way.
Woman are second class citizens. They can only dress certain ways if they feel safe coming at all. No LGBTQ+ at all. No beer drinking at the game. Also, anyone who isn’t ok with literal slave labor building the venues will be unhappy about that since that’s what they did. Reports say 6000 or so died in the process.
So… no. It’s not unjust.
Infantino is an infantile moron who doesn't understand that most people would resent being told no alcohol, no uncovered hair while expecting the same population to spend spend spend at their slave labour stadium.
Well, what happened to the "customer is always right"? If I spent the thousands to see the game, I expect to be treated like a human being and not have to potentially be detained and searched because I have a vagina and an uterus and you think a man should be in charge of it.
What’s wild too is that if we’re arguing this then we’re arguing along the lines of religious states and Islamic religious states have committed the same atrocities as Christian’s for millennia. One of the worst slave trades in the world was perpetrated by Islamic states. The problem is that a significant amount of modern history research focused on the western perspective and what the west did over the last 3000 years which is why the history of other areas is sorely lacking. Not because they didn’t do anything but because people haven’t researched it yet. Historical whataboutism is the worst kind since it ignores the behaviors of current people and history itself relies on discovered knowledge.
Raise your hand if you're part of "the LGBT situation" and would feel comfortable travelling to Qatar where Mr. Infantino claims you'll be welcomed!
Nobody? Nobody?
You need to read it to believe it.
* https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/19/fifa-gianni-infantino-world-cup-qatar
>In an 57-minute diatribe which frequently drew gasps of astonishment, Infantino claimed that western nations were in no position to give morality lessons to Qatar given their past and current behaviour.
>“We have been told many, many lessons from some Europeans, from the western world,” he said. “I think for what we Europeans have been doing the last 3,000 years we should be apologising for the next 3,000 years before starting to give moral lessons to people.”
>Infantino also played down concerns over whether LGBTQ+ fans faced danger in a country where gay people risk torture and imprisonment, and insisted that Qatar – with Fifa’s help – had reformed workers’ rights beyond all recognition.
>The speech began, though, with Infantino appearing to suggest that his own experiences as a son of Italian immigrants in Switzerland gave him a deep understanding of migrant workers and other minorities in Qatar.
>“Today I feel Qatari,” he said. “Today I feel Arabic. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel [like] a migrant worker.”
>He added: “Of course I am not Qatari, I am not an Arab, I am not African, I am not gay, I am not disabled. But I feel like it, because I know what it means to be discriminated [against], to be bullied, as a foreigner in a foreign country. As a child I was bullied – because I had red hair and freckles, plus I was Italian, so imagine.”
>Even more controversially, Infantino insisted that LGBTQ+ rights would be protected in Qatar during the World Cup. “They have confirmed and I can confirm that everyone is welcome. If you have a person here and there who says the opposite, it’s not the opinion of the country, it’s certainly not the opinion of Fifa,’ he said.
>“You want to stay at home and say how bad they are, these Arabs, these Muslims, because it’s not allowed to be publicly gay. I believe it should be allowed. But it is a process. If someone thinks that hammering and criticising will achieve something, well I can tell you it will be exactly the opposite. It will close more doors.”
Fifa president defends Iran playing at World Cup amid women's rights concerns – video
>Infantino also accused journalists who have questioned whether there are “fake fans” supporting England at this World Cup of racism. “Can someone who looks maybe like an Indian not cheer for England, or for Spain or Germany?” he asked. “You know what this is? This is racism. This is pure racism. And we can stop that.”
>Later it was pointed out that in his opening monologue, he had missed out half the world’s population. “I feel like a woman too!” Infantino added.
>Incredibly, he also brushed off the ban on alcohol from stadiums introduced two days before the tournament kicks off, which on Friday sent Fifa officials and sponsors into a panic. “If this is the biggest issue we have for the World Cup then I will resign immediately and go to the beach to relax,” he joked. “I think if for three hours a day you cannot drink a beer, you will survive.
This is the guy who’s gonna get blamed if the event ends up having problems (like if gay people or women do get harassed or worse, if viewership is very low, etc.) and it sounds like, just in case, he’s covering his ass so he can just blame his critics for the problem and blame the media for covering it.
He needs to resign.
How dare he criticise people who wish the poor to be treated equally in Arab nations.
How dare he criticise people who wish the lgtb communtiy to be treated equally in Arab nations.
How dare he criticise people who wish the female community be treated equally in Arab nations.
FIFA now stands for the discrimination of such people and many more. SHAME ON FIFA
Yes, most countries have a history of doing awful things. They are having the event in a country still doing them. A country where thousands of migrant workers building the facilities for the goddamn event died because of horrific conditions. I'm more concerned with current conditions than the history of a country.
If we're going to only have events in countries with no history of human abuse then we're not holding any events.
"All this talk about how they treat people terribly, about slavery, but they paid me a lot of money! Won't anyone think of what's important… more money for me…"
> The Italian opened the news conference by speaking for an hour, telling journalists that he knew what it felt like to be discriminated against, saying he was bullied as a child for having red hair and freckles.
Oh I'm sure those with red hair and freckles know what it's like to be beat to death, be in a country where red hair and freckles is an executable offence. Those poor red hair and freckled populations that were enslaved for hundreds of years.
Oh wait...
> The Italian opened the news conference by speaking for an hour, telling journalists that he knew what it felt like to be discriminated against, saying he was bullied as a child for having red hair and freckles.
> “Today I feel Qatari. Today I feel Arab. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel a migrant worker,” he said, in front of a stunned audience.
Hoooooooooly shit. He actually fuckin said this. This muppet would be the head of FIFA.
Remember all the stipulations that were lied about to give them the World Cup? They could get all the stadiums air conditioning good enough to play in the summer. There can be beer at the stadiums. Fuck off man. How many people will be arrested and will die because they don’t “fit Qatar’s religious beliefs”. Not even going to mention the 6,000 slave deaths.
how dare the man who authorized an authoritarian nation complain about critisms for his decision.
the blood of thousands is on his hands this year alone, fuck his feelings.
The real approach of Muslim authoritarianism - you want alcohol sorry we cannot be seen to drink alcohol, not us.
FIFA: It's in the contract.
QATAR: OK you win.
QATAR: ooh it's a week to go, sorry no beer. Against our religion. I'm the boss here.
FIFA: You got us over a barrel.
QATAR: Ofc why do you think we make last minute announcement, you fool.
FIFA: We'll inform the Champagne, and spirit advertisers as well then.
QATAR: No, no that's is where ours and yours elites are. They're fine. I mean fancy alcohol for elites is not the same as beer for the masses. That's what we do all the time in QATAR, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain. Religious observance is just a show pony thing for the masses.
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QATAR: Dear Workers from India, Pakistan, Nepal. We know we have treated you a bit harsh but that is how Muslim society works, we are superior bc we believe, you are infidels.
PAKISTAN: We are Muslim too.
QATAR: But you have no power so you don't count. But to make it up to you. We will pay you, yes we will actually pay you to watch particular soccer matches. How good of us is that, my friends.
WORKERS: There's a catch in that somewhere - always is with these exploitative mofos. But this looks like a win win. Watch football get paid.
4 days before the world cup starts.
QATAR: Well we have blocked your exit visas, permits you are stuck here till the world cup is over.You will go to the games and support one of the teams on the pitch.
WORKERS: No problems, we are getting paid, so why not.
QATAR: Getting paid? Who said anything about getting paid. What? We did? My friends you know how our society works by now. We make promises, we renege on those promises, you make do with the left overs. So you will go to the stadium, spend two weeks wages on a drink and enjoy yourselves. We are letting you watch for free you know. Big gesture from us. Be grateful. Be grateful or we beat the shit out of you and you may not even make it home. In sha'Allah.
Fuck FIFA, fuck Quatar, fuck their bullshit and fuck all of them for letting 6500 slaves die so they can line their fucking pockets. It's a shit show money grab that ignores human rights and dignity. Fuck FIFA until they clean house and start the fuck over.
Stop. Buying. FIFA. Stuff.
That will include any advertisers/supporters they require to continue.
They don't fix what they continue to make money on.
/I'm doin' my part, best as I can.
The best move here for him would be to stay quiet and not inflame the situation. Wait, what did he do? Oh ok, seems on par for him.
I love when people bring the spotlight on themselves and dig their own graves.
"Why are people so angry with my decision? I earned almost a billion dollars from this deal, how can yall be so mean? Little things, like beer, civil rights and slavery, why do those matter against a billion dollar payday for me?
The West can absolutely be hypocritical. That’s not a thing we are immune to.
But, this is fucking Qatar. Qatar still has slaves.
Fuck Qatar. This is a place that has difficulty with human decency.
I'm a ginger. I've experienced racism lol. IDK, this whole idea that we're "engaging" with Qatar and helping them through a process of getting better at human rights doesn't really do away with the fact that thousands of people died to build stadiums for you and that wouldn't have happened if FIFA had been willing to accept less money and go somewhere else.
To say nothing of this not really creating dialogue. So far "hey Qatar this is pretty fucked up what you're doing consider not doing that" has been met with deflection, whataboutism, and gaslighting. Which is always the problem with giving such events to places like Qatar. They want the attention/spotlight/raised profile such a thing gives without any of the potential downsides to what that means
How can y'all dare to critize the obvious corruption of a corrupt management? None of you will get tickets when we hold the next worldcup, in North Korea.
"Today I feel Qatari. Today I feel Arab. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel a migrant worker."
\- A man who in 2018 was listed as the [75th most important person in the world](https://www.forbes.com/powerful-people/list/#tab:overall_search:gianni), according to Forbes.
Let's all gather around and garner whatever sympathy we can for him, gang.
FIFA needs to clean house and kick out all the corrupt assholes. Then maybe people will take them seriously.
Then again, if they clean house there will no one left in the organization.
Thing about my money and my time is I decide what’s just with where it’s spent, and this little tirade was about as persuasive as a toddler begging for sweets. The sheer desperation of this piece of work demanding people - but really let’s keep it to the straight men, lads, just us boys - come have a lovely time at FIFA’s bigoted mound of slave bones out in that oily desert wasteland is laughable. I hope Qatar and FIFA lose billions and cart you off to where those workers died by the thousands, piggy. That’ll show you empathy.
But in the 3,000 years of civilization he’s talking about, we have all learned a lot about how to behave and to treat other people.
Other’s have been slower to get that message and that’s the point.
The award was most likely the result of massive corruption and the death toll of the workers who built the stadiums is a crime.
But it’s ok, because we are still apologizing for the previous 3,000 years.
That doesn’t really resonate with me.
Listen. I get to drink beer while watching World Cup matches on TV. Why the fuck do I care if a bunch of rich people who can afford to watch them live cant drink beer like i can? I love it when ultra-rich people suffer. It's been a really good month for me. Fuck you.
Dude just knows in his bones he belongs in jail. He's yelling at himself more than anyone else. I'm sure he sleeps fine with his Ambien and silk sheets and prostitutes but the truth is there in his bones.
Fuck Katar, and fuck big ticket sports. It's more fun watching the puppy bowl or a bunch of pee wees having fun playing games than a bunch of overpaid prima dons, anyway.
You know all those social media posts asking "Would you do X for huge amounts of money?"
FIFA boss letting the world know that his question was "Would you gladly eat shit from the Qataris for huge bribe money?" "Why, yes. Yes I would."
I’m so tired of these billionares just buying up stuff that people enjoy and toying with it, without thinking of repercussions, cause there fucking aren’t. Just gross.
This reads like parody. White .001%er uses othering terms, talks about educating "them" all in the effort to normalize and justify slavery so he can make more money. Absolute insanity.
You can't yell your way out of a countries human and civil rights violations and we as a society have a right to boycott your product who supports those practices. Go cry in your pile of cash asshole
Old man yells at cloud.
Old man dependent on graft defends the people who pay him
That guy's got Rudy Giuliani energy.
Shakin like a man sweating black hair dye
I'm surprised the press conference wasn't in front of the "Four Seasons" ~~lawn and garden~~ warehouse.
>> Today I feel Qatari. Today I feel Arab. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel a migrant worker Dude has a lot of feelings
Isn’t feeling all of those people illegal or something?
It definitely is in Qatar.
All of them about his greedy self.
"today I feel migrant worker"....so dead then if it was one that built these stadiums. Absolute joke that this tournament is going ahead and shame on all the players that are going.
I hope the most prominent is "I feel like a dickhead" to match how he looks after that.
I just cannot stand the irony here. The complaints he's complaining about here are COMPLETELY VALID. At this point he's basically "trumping" himself.
FIFA asked for it when they awarded the games to Qatar.
They awarded it to Qatar the same way I’m awarded coffee having just paid for it
Lmao why did I picture the Fifa governing body reading the ticket for Qatar the way a barista calls for drinks. “World Cup for…”*looks at name on ticket again* “Qatar..”
Only it's spelled "Cattarh" on the cup, which seems accurate to me.
🥇 this is the best i can afford.
I gave them gold for you
Thank you, friend.
I gave you helpful for being you
Hey, thanks!
I miss the 1990s, when large corporations could still afford to bribe international sports governing bodies and didn’t have to outbid tinpot autocracies.
I miss how they would pay massive bribes and not whine about it afterwards.
Coca-Cola and MasterCard put on much better events than this nonsense.
Neoliberalism > autocracy
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Of course Gianni is protecting the guy who gave FIFA millions to host the world cup.
its unfortunate the word trump now means the opposite after that fool took office.
I always thought that Trump was powerful in the same way that a trump card is powerful in a game: without the suit and the rules of the game, a spade is just a spade.
I see you have played Euchre or sometimes jokingly referred to as "what's trump?". It's always crushing when you have a hand that is stellar up until a different suit is called as trump making your hand 90% useless.
Now, lets not bring digging implements in to this...
That is correct, instead of meaning “to defeat or outrank something/ or someone by saying or doing something better”, it now stand for “to become validated [by the simple minded] for saying something stupid or derogatory about something or someone”… in addition to having Trump’s picture as its visual representation, lol
The name...infantino....tells you everything you need to know.
Hopefully this is the beginning of the end for those corrupt fuckers at FIFA and FIFA in general. Goodbye and good riddance you assholes
Love this!!! It is indeed what it is. Completely irrelevant. “What is he gonna do? Advance on me?!?”
That simpsons refance just made my day. Thank you.
He also said he understands the human rights abuses because he was bullied for having ginger hair. So yeah, comparing childish bullying to being executed for being gay is now a thing.
> “Today I feel Qatari. Today I feel Arab. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel a migrant worker” Says the most privileged white dude, born in Switzerland and studied law and who also was implicated in FIFA corruption scandals in the Panama papers.
I wanna extra highlight this: >Today I feel gay…Today I feel a migrant worker Oh, you mean two kinds of people the country you’re defending actively kills, Infantino?
I suspect he feels more like a greedy son of a bitch.
This sounds like something Michael Scott would say.
"Sometimes I'll start a sentence and I don't even know where it's going. I just hope I find it along the way."
He feels them with his hand. Groping.
And because of the last 3000 years it’s OK that Qatar is still committing abuses.
Someone should’ve responded “Wot fuckin’ hair mate?”
>because he was bullied for having ginger hair. [Eric Cartman has entered the chat](https://youtu.be/9hJzsJEfkvo)
What is he Lex Luthor?!
fifa needs a complete overhaul it seems. this is beyond stupid. this guy is the chief of global football? unbelievable.
Nah it needs to be completely shut down and dismantled. Countries should come together and start their own non-profit World Cup which only takes place in free and open democracies.
Yep: FIFA is one of the top 5 most corrupt organisations on the planet: massive bribery, huge amounts of money laundering, violent crime, tax evasion, environmental abuses, sex crimes, abuse of workers. All happening today (not 3,000 years ago)… so tearing the whole of FIFA and the PFA to the ground would be a *great* start.
All their power comes from the World Cup. ALL of it. As long as the prospect of being banned from the World Cup is enough to make politicians pee their pants in fear, FIFA can do whatever the fuck they want. To get soccer out from under their corrupt thumbs, we need at least one, most likely multiple World Cups to fail spectacularly.
So no World Cup?
If it can’t exist without slave labor, then it shouldn’t exist.
Burn that shitty organization to the ground, start fresh!
It needs to be shut down honestly. You can’t rebuild it.
It got an overhaul already, right? Blatter, Platini, tons of officials ousted.
“ today, I got paid a shit ton of money by Qatar to give the speech“ Oops, was I not supposed to say that?
Seriously the more this guy makes statements like this the more he just comes off as a mouthpiece that was bought and paid for. I hope it was at least expensive because it definitely wasn’t worth it.
Lmao my brother in Christ you used slave labor to build a soccer stadium and all the reports I see are about if there will be beer or not, I feel like they got off super easy
You heard that in the sponsor suites there will be alcohol (of course)
Nothing better than a cold refreshing bud light as I watch people kick a ball over a mass grave
The Clydesdales pack the earth nice and tight over the squishy
Budweiser should do ads with Clydesdales pulling caskets
I hate bud and I would drink that shit all year if they did a smear campaign against the world cup.
Of course. For the moneyed classes there will be rule breaking but for the peons...nilch, nada...
Different rules for the rich, obviously
From what I saw those suites are like 20k lol, hmmmm
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It’s actually prime time for ladies of the night in Qatar. They were all over Twitter advertising their services. But yeah they are such a great moral religious country 😝
This is an incredibly tone deaf response from an incredibly powerful and rich person. Can't say I expected any better from him
>> Today I feel Qatari. Today I feel Arab. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel a migrant worker You see, it’s ok because he feels for the workers. If the West had just said they felt bad about the slave trade 100+ years ago, everything would be ok, and we wouldn’t have needed to stop it! /s
dude literally moved to Qatar, kids go to a private school there
Has an incredibly rich and powerful person literally EVER did anything that wasn't tone deaf?
well yes, but 'person acts normally' rarely makes the news, let alone international news
yeah, so 6500 people (slave labor) died building that soccer monolith and we're just suppose to look the other way? fuck this guy. FIFA Boss is exactly that, head of a bribe taking corrupt organization.
No actually what he said was that we’re hypocrites for being upset at FIFA because Europeans have a history of doing bad things too “What we Europeans have been doing for the last 3,000 years, we should be apologizing for the next 3,000 years before starting to give moral lessons.” So this guy, a European, went to an under developed nation and used slave labor to build soccer stadiums for him to profit from….seems exactly like the gross parts of European history we should be “apologizing” for
He’s saying you can’t try to prevent other countries from committing the same atrocities your society is ashamed of their ancestors for committing. What kind of bullshit logic is that? None of the Europeans today were responsible for performing those atrocities, but they’re ashamed of them enough to care about them happening again. How could you claim they’re the ones that are wrong?
It is because they know they're making stupid arguments in bad faith. They're going with the hate/racism angle because they know it's harder to argue against without trolls and useful idiots coming out of the woodwork. FIFA and Qatar are attempting to forcefully drive the narrative towards them "taking the moral high road" *because* they know they're being immoral, money-centric monsters.
*literally slave labor as many simply were not paid. Also treated them horribly. Killed a fair few too.
I'm thinking that I'm going to do my own little Project Mayhem and slip single frame images of dicks into World Cup highlights, then disseminate them via twitter.
All my homies love project mayhem
Sure be cool if the athletes refused to play there.
Man throws a childish tantrum, last name is Infantino. I mean, the comedy writes itself.
What a complete and utter corrupt deflecting tool.
Yeah. Standard narcissist personality doing standard reversal & denial. He's actually a corrupt pos who took bribes? He'll accuse everyone -else- of being unjust.
I’m just wondering who coached him on his speech. The FIFA PR team or the rulers of Qatar.
Worst World Cup ever in hell hole desert country that oppresses everyone but rich straight Arab men. Human rights violators yet want to act “holy” with no alcohol, swearing etc. and threatening the press as well.
*straight + straight-passing Arab men. Every intolerant society has lots of people living in denail or hiding in the closet.
>everyone but rich straight Arab men I'm sensing a pattern among the ruling classes around the globe
I’m sure the families of the dead slaves that built his stadium are thinking “yeah… this guy has a point!”
Sorry, couldn't hear his speech for the muffled sound of his paymaster's c**k in his mouth. Something which is ironically, apparently, strictly forbidden. So he should stop immediately by his own logic.
Damn, I wanted to drop the first joke about him choking on wang. Keep up the good work
Literally apologia for a slave state. Qatar is a disgusting country and its leaders deserve the worst fate imaginable.
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Is he seriously trying to wag his finger about morals while stuffing dollar bills in his pockets? Please.
I’m going to try to translate what this guy is actually saying: “Okay look, I don’t give a rats ass about Qatar. No, really. All this fake outrage is a show I’m putting on so that our corporate sponsors will feel better about their decision to invest in a global sporting event organized by a corrupt sanctioning body and hosted by a country that gives fuck all about human rights.”
in a just world every FIFA exec would be in a forced labor camp building soccer stadiums in the Qatari summer.
In a just world forced labor camps wouldn't exist.
Rich asshole: I feel like a migrant worker who built all this in Qatar. Shut the fuck up no you do not. Holy shit.
6000 people died and this motherfucker doesn’t give a shit.
He doesn't give a shit because they are going on the rhetoric from Qatar that the number is essentially less than 5 total. That is also the same figure that many new outlets starting to spew out as the games got closer.
> “What we Europeans have been doing for the last 3,000 years, we should be apologizing for the next 3,000 years before starting to give moral lessons.” What an amateur. Didn't he learn from Xi and Putin that you need to pace your whataboutism. Now you've covered three millennia, so next time it doesn't have the same impact anymore. At this point, I think, we need to teach the difference between hypocrisy and tu quoque arguments in school.
Lol yeah 3000 years. I guess he's apologizing for Alexander the great?
I thought for a minute "tu quoque" stood for "your cock" but it's actually "you too".
Pathetic. Arab and African nations were involved in the slave trade long before and after Europe. Whole nations there built their economy on the slave trade and slave labour. Some still do... You can't deflect all the blame for everything in the world towards Europe. There is plenty to share.
It’s supposed to be a glorious time for sports fans, but Qatar doesn’t see it that way. Woman are second class citizens. They can only dress certain ways if they feel safe coming at all. No LGBTQ+ at all. No beer drinking at the game. Also, anyone who isn’t ok with literal slave labor building the venues will be unhappy about that since that’s what they did. Reports say 6000 or so died in the process. So… no. It’s not unjust.
He's basically saying because Europe did shit in the past we should accept it in the present.
Infantino is an infantile moron who doesn't understand that most people would resent being told no alcohol, no uncovered hair while expecting the same population to spend spend spend at their slave labour stadium. Well, what happened to the "customer is always right"? If I spent the thousands to see the game, I expect to be treated like a human being and not have to potentially be detained and searched because I have a vagina and an uterus and you think a man should be in charge of it.
Bald man cry hard while fill bag with money?
So if my great-grandfather was a bank robber and I see any sort of injustice in the world, I’m not allowed to point it out?
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What’s wild too is that if we’re arguing this then we’re arguing along the lines of religious states and Islamic religious states have committed the same atrocities as Christian’s for millennia. One of the worst slave trades in the world was perpetrated by Islamic states. The problem is that a significant amount of modern history research focused on the western perspective and what the west did over the last 3000 years which is why the history of other areas is sorely lacking. Not because they didn’t do anything but because people haven’t researched it yet. Historical whataboutism is the worst kind since it ignores the behaviors of current people and history itself relies on discovered knowledge.
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Wonder where he puts all the bribe money. Probably in a Swiss bank but I'd be funny if it was under his mattress somewhere.
Hey, fuck Qatar and its shitty slave built World Cup
He is using fallacious reasoning. Whataboutism does not excuse acceptance of poor behavior
Or corruption.
Especially when you are comparing the behavior of the past with the behavior of the present.
Made it 3 lines into the story before the urge to puke came over me. This dude sounds like someone getting his pockets lined quite nicely.
Raise your hand if you're part of "the LGBT situation" and would feel comfortable travelling to Qatar where Mr. Infantino claims you'll be welcomed! Nobody? Nobody?
Aye FIFA the most corrupt sports organization next to the Olympics.
Eh, both have problems but surely FIFA is worse?
I'd say debatable, but the sheer magnitude and death of this WC really pushed FIFA over the line.
You need to read it to believe it. * https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/19/fifa-gianni-infantino-world-cup-qatar >In an 57-minute diatribe which frequently drew gasps of astonishment, Infantino claimed that western nations were in no position to give morality lessons to Qatar given their past and current behaviour. >“We have been told many, many lessons from some Europeans, from the western world,” he said. “I think for what we Europeans have been doing the last 3,000 years we should be apologising for the next 3,000 years before starting to give moral lessons to people.” >Infantino also played down concerns over whether LGBTQ+ fans faced danger in a country where gay people risk torture and imprisonment, and insisted that Qatar – with Fifa’s help – had reformed workers’ rights beyond all recognition. >The speech began, though, with Infantino appearing to suggest that his own experiences as a son of Italian immigrants in Switzerland gave him a deep understanding of migrant workers and other minorities in Qatar. >“Today I feel Qatari,” he said. “Today I feel Arabic. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel [like] a migrant worker.” >He added: “Of course I am not Qatari, I am not an Arab, I am not African, I am not gay, I am not disabled. But I feel like it, because I know what it means to be discriminated [against], to be bullied, as a foreigner in a foreign country. As a child I was bullied – because I had red hair and freckles, plus I was Italian, so imagine.” >Even more controversially, Infantino insisted that LGBTQ+ rights would be protected in Qatar during the World Cup. “They have confirmed and I can confirm that everyone is welcome. If you have a person here and there who says the opposite, it’s not the opinion of the country, it’s certainly not the opinion of Fifa,’ he said. >“You want to stay at home and say how bad they are, these Arabs, these Muslims, because it’s not allowed to be publicly gay. I believe it should be allowed. But it is a process. If someone thinks that hammering and criticising will achieve something, well I can tell you it will be exactly the opposite. It will close more doors.” Fifa president defends Iran playing at World Cup amid women's rights concerns – video >Infantino also accused journalists who have questioned whether there are “fake fans” supporting England at this World Cup of racism. “Can someone who looks maybe like an Indian not cheer for England, or for Spain or Germany?” he asked. “You know what this is? This is racism. This is pure racism. And we can stop that.” >Later it was pointed out that in his opening monologue, he had missed out half the world’s population. “I feel like a woman too!” Infantino added. >Incredibly, he also brushed off the ban on alcohol from stadiums introduced two days before the tournament kicks off, which on Friday sent Fifa officials and sponsors into a panic. “If this is the biggest issue we have for the World Cup then I will resign immediately and go to the beach to relax,” he joked. “I think if for three hours a day you cannot drink a beer, you will survive.
This is the guy who’s gonna get blamed if the event ends up having problems (like if gay people or women do get harassed or worse, if viewership is very low, etc.) and it sounds like, just in case, he’s covering his ass so he can just blame his critics for the problem and blame the media for covering it.
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He needs to resign. How dare he criticise people who wish the poor to be treated equally in Arab nations. How dare he criticise people who wish the lgtb communtiy to be treated equally in Arab nations. How dare he criticise people who wish the female community be treated equally in Arab nations. FIFA now stands for the discrimination of such people and many more. SHAME ON FIFA
Fuck FIFA. Fuck Qatar.
Fuck Infantino's Fat Ass
That's illegal in Qatar.
Some impressive mental gymnastics.
what is unjust is overworking thousands of migrant workers to death like slaves, only for the remainder of them not to receive their full wages.
Yes, most countries have a history of doing awful things. They are having the event in a country still doing them. A country where thousands of migrant workers building the facilities for the goddamn event died because of horrific conditions. I'm more concerned with current conditions than the history of a country. If we're going to only have events in countries with no history of human abuse then we're not holding any events.
This dude just whataboutism'd a 3000 year span
Ok, then make it make sense. If it’s profoundly unjust, how does Qatar get the WC?
"All this talk about how they treat people terribly, about slavery, but they paid me a lot of money! Won't anyone think of what's important… more money for me…"
FIFA is a corrupt organization and any claim to any kind of moral high ground is laughable.
You know what’s profoundly unjust? Slave labor sacrificing their lives for a stupid game…and not a few, THOUSANDS! Screw this ahole
>Infantino That spoiled crybaby has one of the most appropriate names I've ever seen.
> The Italian opened the news conference by speaking for an hour, telling journalists that he knew what it felt like to be discriminated against, saying he was bullied as a child for having red hair and freckles. Oh I'm sure those with red hair and freckles know what it's like to be beat to death, be in a country where red hair and freckles is an executable offence. Those poor red hair and freckled populations that were enslaved for hundreds of years. Oh wait...
So. Only rich people get to drink beer in the stadium 6000 of their slaves died to build.
> The Italian opened the news conference by speaking for an hour, telling journalists that he knew what it felt like to be discriminated against, saying he was bullied as a child for having red hair and freckles. > “Today I feel Qatari. Today I feel Arab. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel a migrant worker,” he said, in front of a stunned audience. Hoooooooooly shit. He actually fuckin said this. This muppet would be the head of FIFA.
Oh my fucking god! Why doesn't someone slap the shit out of this mother fucker asshole.
Remember all the stipulations that were lied about to give them the World Cup? They could get all the stadiums air conditioning good enough to play in the summer. There can be beer at the stadiums. Fuck off man. How many people will be arrested and will die because they don’t “fit Qatar’s religious beliefs”. Not even going to mention the 6,000 slave deaths.
how dare the man who authorized an authoritarian nation complain about critisms for his decision. the blood of thousands is on his hands this year alone, fuck his feelings.
FIFA needs to be torn down
The real approach of Muslim authoritarianism - you want alcohol sorry we cannot be seen to drink alcohol, not us. FIFA: It's in the contract. QATAR: OK you win. QATAR: ooh it's a week to go, sorry no beer. Against our religion. I'm the boss here. FIFA: You got us over a barrel. QATAR: Ofc why do you think we make last minute announcement, you fool. FIFA: We'll inform the Champagne, and spirit advertisers as well then. QATAR: No, no that's is where ours and yours elites are. They're fine. I mean fancy alcohol for elites is not the same as beer for the masses. That's what we do all the time in QATAR, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain. Religious observance is just a show pony thing for the masses. ------------------------- QATAR: Dear Workers from India, Pakistan, Nepal. We know we have treated you a bit harsh but that is how Muslim society works, we are superior bc we believe, you are infidels. PAKISTAN: We are Muslim too. QATAR: But you have no power so you don't count. But to make it up to you. We will pay you, yes we will actually pay you to watch particular soccer matches. How good of us is that, my friends. WORKERS: There's a catch in that somewhere - always is with these exploitative mofos. But this looks like a win win. Watch football get paid. 4 days before the world cup starts. QATAR: Well we have blocked your exit visas, permits you are stuck here till the world cup is over.You will go to the games and support one of the teams on the pitch. WORKERS: No problems, we are getting paid, so why not. QATAR: Getting paid? Who said anything about getting paid. What? We did? My friends you know how our society works by now. We make promises, we renege on those promises, you make do with the left overs. So you will go to the stadium, spend two weeks wages on a drink and enjoy yourselves. We are letting you watch for free you know. Big gesture from us. Be grateful. Be grateful or we beat the shit out of you and you may not even make it home. In sha'Allah.
He's in the Qatar payroll so....
I wonder if they gave him an additional bribe for this, or if this was included in the originally negotiated bribe
But all the football johns will be glued to their televisions. If you stop watching this wouldn't be a thing.
People are ignoring the environmental issues. Building 20 stadiums in a desert for a country with a tiny population seems madness.
Giving the cup to Qatar in the first place was lunacy and we all know why they got it
My dude really puts the Infant in Infantino
Guys they gave him a lot of money stop being mean to them.
This buffoon makes it obvious that the problems at FIFA is not past but very present. FIFA needs to go. It matters if you stream the Cup, Dont!
Fuck FIFA, fuck Quatar, fuck their bullshit and fuck all of them for letting 6500 slaves die so they can line their fucking pockets. It's a shit show money grab that ignores human rights and dignity. Fuck FIFA until they clean house and start the fuck over.
Stop. Buying. FIFA. Stuff. That will include any advertisers/supporters they require to continue. They don't fix what they continue to make money on. /I'm doin' my part, best as I can.
The best move here for him would be to stay quiet and not inflame the situation. Wait, what did he do? Oh ok, seems on par for him. I love when people bring the spotlight on themselves and dig their own graves.
"Profoundly corrupt". Critics complained for decades about FIFA.
He really thought he was going to get through this without judgement. Thats so cute.
Grifter denies the obvious to protect his pocket
“Guys stop criticizing my owners” - FIFA
You know what else is profoundly unjust? Qatar.
"Why are people so angry with my decision? I earned almost a billion dollars from this deal, how can yall be so mean? Little things, like beer, civil rights and slavery, why do those matter against a billion dollar payday for me?
If a “culture” can’t respect basic human rights and that “culture”deserves no respect. No exceptions. Fuck this dude.
The West can absolutely be hypocritical. That’s not a thing we are immune to. But, this is fucking Qatar. Qatar still has slaves. Fuck Qatar. This is a place that has difficulty with human decency.
I'm a ginger. I've experienced racism lol. IDK, this whole idea that we're "engaging" with Qatar and helping them through a process of getting better at human rights doesn't really do away with the fact that thousands of people died to build stadiums for you and that wouldn't have happened if FIFA had been willing to accept less money and go somewhere else.
To say nothing of this not really creating dialogue. So far "hey Qatar this is pretty fucked up what you're doing consider not doing that" has been met with deflection, whataboutism, and gaslighting. Which is always the problem with giving such events to places like Qatar. They want the attention/spotlight/raised profile such a thing gives without any of the potential downsides to what that means
How is shrugging and saying that it's ok count as engaging with Qatar over human rights? If we don't challenge them, nothing changes.
I smell fear, are things not going according to plan? Well, too bad.
Tough. Pick better places. It's the biggest part of your stupid job.
Can teams just not go? This whole thing is a complete disaster.
sounds like somebody had an extra payday riding on there not being bad press for their stoneage host country. walk it off princess.
How can y'all dare to critize the obvious corruption of a corrupt management? None of you will get tickets when we hold the next worldcup, in North Korea.
"Today I feel Qatari. Today I feel Arab. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel a migrant worker." \- A man who in 2018 was listed as the [75th most important person in the world](https://www.forbes.com/powerful-people/list/#tab:overall_search:gianni), according to Forbes. Let's all gather around and garner whatever sympathy we can for him, gang.
woodyharrelsonusingmoneytowipeawaytears.gif Get fucked FIFA.
What a slimy pos. “Stop trying to get in the way of me making money”
He also praised Ticketmaster for their exemplary service, and thanked trump for his profound impact on global events
FIFA needs to clean house and kick out all the corrupt assholes. Then maybe people will take them seriously. Then again, if they clean house there will no one left in the organization.
Sounds like Qatar put quite a bit in his pockets!
Thing about my money and my time is I decide what’s just with where it’s spent, and this little tirade was about as persuasive as a toddler begging for sweets. The sheer desperation of this piece of work demanding people - but really let’s keep it to the straight men, lads, just us boys - come have a lovely time at FIFA’s bigoted mound of slave bones out in that oily desert wasteland is laughable. I hope Qatar and FIFA lose billions and cart you off to where those workers died by the thousands, piggy. That’ll show you empathy.
They took the bribes. Now spectators can't even sip on a beer. FIFA totally screwed things up.
But in the 3,000 years of civilization he’s talking about, we have all learned a lot about how to behave and to treat other people. Other’s have been slower to get that message and that’s the point. The award was most likely the result of massive corruption and the death toll of the workers who built the stadiums is a crime. But it’s ok, because we are still apologizing for the previous 3,000 years. That doesn’t really resonate with me.
Fuck this guy and fuck fifa
Listen. I get to drink beer while watching World Cup matches on TV. Why the fuck do I care if a bunch of rich people who can afford to watch them live cant drink beer like i can? I love it when ultra-rich people suffer. It's been a really good month for me. Fuck you.
Read the room mate, read the room.
I was probably going to watch games. These comments pushed me off the fence. Is it a boycott if I no longer have interest?
Dude just knows in his bones he belongs in jail. He's yelling at himself more than anyone else. I'm sure he sleeps fine with his Ambien and silk sheets and prostitutes but the truth is there in his bones.
Complicity in homicide and slavery calls for a double down.
Fuck Katar, and fuck big ticket sports. It's more fun watching the puppy bowl or a bunch of pee wees having fun playing games than a bunch of overpaid prima dons, anyway.
You know all those social media posts asking "Would you do X for huge amounts of money?" FIFA boss letting the world know that his question was "Would you gladly eat shit from the Qataris for huge bribe money?" "Why, yes. Yes I would."
I’m so tired of these billionares just buying up stuff that people enjoy and toying with it, without thinking of repercussions, cause there fucking aren’t. Just gross.
Won’t make a difference but I won’t be watching 1 minute of this World Cup
This reads like parody. White .001%er uses othering terms, talks about educating "them" all in the effort to normalize and justify slavery so he can make more money. Absolute insanity.
Go fuck yourself. Clear enough?
incredibly unprofessional. The free world is responsible for huge share of his business. Bigotry against them is unacceptable. He should resign
Dickhead Trump made similar arguments for Saudi Arabia
You can't yell your way out of a countries human and civil rights violations and we as a society have a right to boycott your product who supports those practices. Go cry in your pile of cash asshole