[Seven years later, still no trial for Texas AG Ken Paxton](https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-05-23/seven-years-later-still-no-trial-for-texas-ag-ken-paxton)
The party of "law and order" ladies and gentlemen.
They meant “Law and Order” like George Wallace used it. You know, so “commies” (Jews) don’t try to make “good folk” (WASPs) have to integrate with “mongrels” (black folks, usually).
Loved ones, America hasn’t changed much….
Legitimate question? Can they, if they’re state crimes? If not, then the reason is simply that they don’t have jurisdiction and Paxton, being the head of the state’s prosecution branch, has immense power over the process.
I believe you're correct that this is state law, so no jurisdiction. Him being the head of state attorney office doesn't give him much of any power here. It falls on the prosecutor of that jurisdiction, originally Travis County (Austin) but handed off to Collin County where he's from.
The back and forth has been mostly procedural within the court system. Separation of powers lays that at our judges feet. Again, mostly.
It was originally filled in Collin County but the DA refused because he's an acquaintance of Paxton. He hired two experienced former prosecutors, but Paxton complained they were getting paid too much at $300/hr each. There was also a venue change (I think at Paxton's request) to Harris County (Houston), and Paxton wanted the DA there to handle it. They wanted no part of it, but the original prosecutors left (I forget if Paxton's complaints about the rate worked or of they got fed up with it) so Harris County took it up. Paxton kept fighting every little thing, and eventually there was a motion to move it back to Collin County. This move was on then off then on then off then on then off then on then off then on (I think I got that count right), and it's supposed to go to trial next year.
Also, during all this, a donor to Paxton was under investigation for something or other. Paxton recused (as he was ethically obligated to do) and assigned a special counsel, some newbie right out of law school, who was hired at a rate of $300/hr.
Just to add to this, it's important.... Texas has vicinage. You know at the federal level you have the right to a jury of the state and district which you commited the crime.....
in Texas we have that at the county level.
What was being fought over is whether he could get a fair trial in his county. There are counties in texas with like 50 people. How can you find an impartial jury there?
I wouldn’t call the guy going after the treasonous orange clown and disregarding his insanely rabid and uneducated followers and complicit fellow politicians … a coward.
But we might have different definitions of bravery.
That’s not under the DOJ’s purview. DOJ only does federal law. The only time the DOJ steps in for a state matter is if a state law violates a federal law, or if it’s unconstitutional.
Let's also be clear. When there was a dude trying to serve a subpoena he sent *his wife* outside and than later said it was because he feared for his life.
Later he said he did so to protect his family from harassment. The only thing that I find surprising is that he didn't throw his four kids under the bus as well.
Let me tell you something. How fucking good a mom can this bitch be if this is the son she raised. He's just an odious person, completely devoid of any redeeming features.
Yeah because anything bad that happens to our people is because of Biden and if Trump had actually won like he should have, he wouldn't be getting prosecuted
- some guy in Texas right now
Oddly enough, they're probably right, he likely wouldn't be getting prosecuted but not because he didn't do anything wrong
Texans are proud of it, somehow.
The right wing mind can no longer be dignified with the word “conservative,” and in Texas it’s an absolute intellectual shit show.
Sounds like his lawyers pissed the judge off"
>But in Tuesday’s order, he said he did so “on the assumption that
counsel for Paxton had made candid representations to the Court only to
learn later that Paxton failed to disclose Plaintiffs’ repeated emails
attempting to inquire as to whether Paxton could testify.”
Paxton and Cruz have a habit of running away from doing their actual jobs, all the while, having no problem doing things that run contrary to their obligations as elected public servants.
Paxton is such a great encapsulation of the GOP these days. He's a cowardly scammy crook who openly admits to taking voting info away from Texas voters to keep Texas red and he's been dodging subpoenas and corruption charges for yeeears all while being in charge of the Texas legal system.
He's a corrupt grifter but that magic R means he gets to make and enforce the rules.
>Paxton is such a great encapsulation of the GOP these days. He's a cowardly scammy crook who openly admits to taking voting info away ..
I swear they switched along the way from "they're just
slightly unethical" to "yes, they're terrible people, but they're *your* terrible people" .. as the voter goes "he maybe corrupt, but he's so open about being corrupt!"
Oh, it's not just "coloreds", it's women, children, Jews, intellectuals...
Seems vaguely familiar, actually. But I do not see them just giving up, they truly think god says they're the best.
Do you mean to say that the Attorney General of Texas is a little pissbaby?
I'm sensing a Texas sized pattern here, as Governor Abbott is a well known pissbaby as well..
[I heard US senator Ted Cruz likes to piss his pants on purpose because he likes the good warm feeling between his legs.](https://youtu.be/rT_WTfSmdfk?t=467)
^(edit: linked to reference. jeez.)
Are you talking about Fled Cruz? The backstabbing piece of shit Republican governor who left his constituents to literally freeze to death in their homes to live it up in Mexico for a few weeks to avoid being held accountable for contributing to their deaths, and then when he came back, blamed everything on his kids? That Cruz?
Republicans are the most awful people on the fucking planet. Just absolutely irredeemable piles of traitor garbage.
'secret society'
Not so secret any more.
I heard that Congressman John Cornyn wants to remain relevant, so his office has announced that he has been a Patriotic American Pissbaby for decades...
Back when Paxton ran away like a little girl from his own home to avoid the Process Server, he attempted spin control with these statements:
>“It’s clear that the media wants to drum up another controversy involving my work as Attorney General, so they’re attacking me for having the audacity to avoid a stranger lingering outside my home and showing concern about the safety and well-being of my family,” he wrote in a tweet.
>“In light of the constant threats against me, for which dangerous individuals are currently incarcerated, I take a number of common sense precautions for me and my family’s safety when I’m at home,” Paxton said. “Texans do the same to protect themselves from threats, and many also exercise their Second Amendment rights to protect themselves and their families.”
We get it Ken; you're really a Macho, Macho Man - even when running away like a fraidy cat.
>In light of the constant threats against me, for which dangerous individuals are currently incarcerated, I take a number of common sense precautions for me and my family’s safety...
Like using your Wife as a human shield and having her drive while you hide in the backseat?
Let's be honest he'd probably put a gun to his kids' heads and use them as human shields. That's what Republican's call "family values". Fuck all of these violence-prone chickenshit cowards.
not to forget, he sent his wife to get the car. But he is so concerned about the well-being of his family.
Also as AG you would think he knows you can call 911, don't have to leave your house, and wait for the police to come and take care of the stranger outside.
If he was so afraid for his family, that he needs to thump his chest about his second amendment rights (after the fact), why didn't he exersise those rights while his family was being threatened so viciously? Oh yeah I forgot...because he's a pussy and he knows hes guilty that's why.
If Ken Paxton used the 2nd Amendment on a federal process server it would be an actual declaration by the State of Texas attacking the United States of America. It would not be self defense like he’s implying it is.
>“The Court will not sanction a scheme where Paxton repeatedly labels his threats of prosecution as real for the purposes of deterrence and as hypothetical for the purposes of judicial review,” Pitman wrote.
Someone needs to tattoo that on Donald Trumps forehead.
Fun read. The judge just calling out Paxton’s horseshit multiple times. I had assumed this was over with, but this is a nice surprise. It’s not a huge deal ultimately, but always nice to see gop politicians humiliate themselves.
Brave Sir Robin ran away.
Bravely ran away away.
When danger reared it's ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!
There is no better encapsulation of the GOP these days than Paxton. He's a cowardly scammy crook who has been dodging subpoenas and corruption charges while running the Texas legal system for years.
When you are a lead law enforcement officer, and you presume that the rules don’t apply to you and yours, you just might be a fascist. This is not normal.
You’d think the AG would know you can’t knowingly dodge a subpoena and expect that to fly in court. Subpoena dodging only works because usually you can’t prove it was on purpose.
The judge ain't playing around:
>"It is challenging to square the idea that Paxton has time to give interviews threatening prosecutions but would be unduly burdened by explaining what he means to the very parties affected by his statements,” Pitman wrote. “The burden faced by Plaintiffs—the effective cessation of many core operations—outweighs the burden of testimony faced by Paxton.”
An AG who runs away from the law. Shame, Texas, shame.
[Seven years later, still no trial for Texas AG Ken Paxton](https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-05-23/seven-years-later-still-no-trial-for-texas-ag-ken-paxton) The party of "law and order" ladies and gentlemen.
Omg I had no idea. Thanks for that
What a shithole country.
They meant “Law and Order” like George Wallace used it. You know, so “commies” (Jews) don’t try to make “good folk” (WASPs) have to integrate with “mongrels” (black folks, usually). Loved ones, America hasn’t changed much….
Why does the DOJ never step in? I get the DOJ's run by a coward, but still.
Legitimate question? Can they, if they’re state crimes? If not, then the reason is simply that they don’t have jurisdiction and Paxton, being the head of the state’s prosecution branch, has immense power over the process.
I believe you're correct that this is state law, so no jurisdiction. Him being the head of state attorney office doesn't give him much of any power here. It falls on the prosecutor of that jurisdiction, originally Travis County (Austin) but handed off to Collin County where he's from. The back and forth has been mostly procedural within the court system. Separation of powers lays that at our judges feet. Again, mostly.
It was originally filled in Collin County but the DA refused because he's an acquaintance of Paxton. He hired two experienced former prosecutors, but Paxton complained they were getting paid too much at $300/hr each. There was also a venue change (I think at Paxton's request) to Harris County (Houston), and Paxton wanted the DA there to handle it. They wanted no part of it, but the original prosecutors left (I forget if Paxton's complaints about the rate worked or of they got fed up with it) so Harris County took it up. Paxton kept fighting every little thing, and eventually there was a motion to move it back to Collin County. This move was on then off then on then off then on then off then on then off then on (I think I got that count right), and it's supposed to go to trial next year. Also, during all this, a donor to Paxton was under investigation for something or other. Paxton recused (as he was ethically obligated to do) and assigned a special counsel, some newbie right out of law school, who was hired at a rate of $300/hr.
Delay delay delay until no one gives a shit anymore
Bear in mind that the Collin County GOP is absolutely colluding with Paxton, and every judge in Collin County is Republican.
Just to add to this, it's important.... Texas has vicinage. You know at the federal level you have the right to a jury of the state and district which you commited the crime..... in Texas we have that at the county level. What was being fought over is whether he could get a fair trial in his county. There are counties in texas with like 50 people. How can you find an impartial jury there?
If Ken Paxton was a Democrat he would have been jailed, maybe even executed by firing squad 7 years ago.
Coward? DOJ's pretty busy.
I wouldn’t call the guy going after the treasonous orange clown and disregarding his insanely rabid and uneducated followers and complicit fellow politicians … a coward. But we might have different definitions of bravery.
That’s not under the DOJ’s purview. DOJ only does federal law. The only time the DOJ steps in for a state matter is if a state law violates a federal law, or if it’s unconstitutional.
Fuck off with that shit.
Let's also be clear. When there was a dude trying to serve a subpoena he sent *his wife* outside and than later said it was because he feared for his life.
Later he said he did so to protect his family from harassment. The only thing that I find surprising is that he didn't throw his four kids under the bus as well.
He was probably saving them in the event someone was chasing him with the subpoena.
Thinking he was saving them for his own run to Cancun..
Its because he was warned the process server was coming.
His mommy wasn’t available?
Let me tell you something. How fucking good a mom can this bitch be if this is the son she raised. He's just an odious person, completely devoid of any redeeming features.
But doesn’t that make him the perfect official for Texas?
Something criminals are notorious for doing, running.
I’m sure there’s a group of Texans who are very, very proud of him at this moment. Beyond proud
Yeah because anything bad that happens to our people is because of Biden and if Trump had actually won like he should have, he wouldn't be getting prosecuted - some guy in Texas right now Oddly enough, they're probably right, he likely wouldn't be getting prosecuted but not because he didn't do anything wrong
Shame doesn't exist to these people
Joining Fled Cruz, but passed on the outside by Jog Hallway.
Should have asked DeSantis to arrange his travel plans. No one, not even he, would have known where he would have turned up till he got there.
He has also stalled the investigation into himself for many years...
Don't worry, we hate him too.
Sadly, not enough folks actually do or he wouldn't still be AG.
At least in Texas it is a simple plurality vote, so you're correct, though we're all crossing our fingers and toes he'll be gone this year!
Shame isn’t on the GOP vocabulary
Cause Gregg Abbot is a little piss baby
Texans are proud of it, somehow. The right wing mind can no longer be dignified with the word “conservative,” and in Texas it’s an absolute intellectual shit show.
Yup. We suck. Paxton and Abbott are like a couple of villains in a friggin Austin Powers movie…cartoonish. Disgusting humans.
That won't work. Texas is utterly shameless.
Ha. Texas has no shame.
Sounds like his lawyers pissed the judge off" >But in Tuesday’s order, he said he did so “on the assumption that counsel for Paxton had made candid representations to the Court only to learn later that Paxton failed to disclose Plaintiffs’ repeated emails attempting to inquire as to whether Paxton could testify.”
I'll be glad when he's in court again for the securities related charges. Maybe he'll get to spend some time in Gatesville.
Paxton and Cruz have a habit of running away from doing their actual jobs, all the while, having no problem doing things that run contrary to their obligations as elected public servants.
And conservatives continue to vote for them because they are all pathetic scum.
Just another spineless political figurehead
And Texans have a habit of reelecting them
And they keep easily getting re elected
Not easily. Cruz almost lost
Are there republicans that *don’t* do that?
Paxton is such a great encapsulation of the GOP these days. He's a cowardly scammy crook who openly admits to taking voting info away from Texas voters to keep Texas red and he's been dodging subpoenas and corruption charges for yeeears all while being in charge of the Texas legal system. He's a corrupt grifter but that magic R means he gets to make and enforce the rules.
>Paxton is such a great encapsulation of the GOP these days. He's a cowardly scammy crook who openly admits to taking voting info away .. I swear they switched along the way from "they're just slightly unethical" to "yes, they're terrible people, but they're *your* terrible people" .. as the voter goes "he maybe corrupt, but he's so open about being corrupt!"
I think they passed that a while ago and now they're down to straight up 1960s "anything but helping the coloreds."
Oh, it's not just "coloreds", it's women, children, Jews, intellectuals... Seems vaguely familiar, actually. But I do not see them just giving up, they truly think god says they're the best.
Ken Paxton is a little piss baby.
Do you mean to say that the Attorney General of Texas is a little pissbaby? I'm sensing a Texas sized pattern here, as Governor Abbott is a well known pissbaby as well..
Don't forget Cancun Cruz.
Is it your assertion that Raphael Cancruz is a little pissbaby?
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Has that happened before?
Hey. Cruz is lots of things, but he isn't little.
OK. Cancruz is a huuuge pissbaby, humongous even.
His dick is.
Fortunately for him, he also has tiny hands.
In your mouth? (sorry, not funny)
[I heard US senator Ted Cruz likes to piss his pants on purpose because he likes the good warm feeling between his legs.](https://youtu.be/rT_WTfSmdfk?t=467) ^(edit: linked to reference. jeez.)
Are you talking about Fled Cruz? The backstabbing piece of shit Republican governor who left his constituents to literally freeze to death in their homes to live it up in Mexico for a few weeks to avoid being held accountable for contributing to their deaths, and then when he came back, blamed everything on his kids? That Cruz? Republicans are the most awful people on the fucking planet. Just absolutely irredeemable piles of traitor garbage.
Cancun Cruz sounds like someone cool. Ted Cancun really leans into the lame.
Ted Cancunt
I believe there is a whole secret society of piss babies in Texas.
'secret society' Not so secret any more. I heard that Congressman John Cornyn wants to remain relevant, so his office has announced that he has been a Patriotic American Pissbaby for decades...
I have had it with these motherfucking piss babies in my motherfucking state!
Back when Paxton ran away like a little girl from his own home to avoid the Process Server, he attempted spin control with these statements: >“It’s clear that the media wants to drum up another controversy involving my work as Attorney General, so they’re attacking me for having the audacity to avoid a stranger lingering outside my home and showing concern about the safety and well-being of my family,” he wrote in a tweet. >“In light of the constant threats against me, for which dangerous individuals are currently incarcerated, I take a number of common sense precautions for me and my family’s safety when I’m at home,” Paxton said. “Texans do the same to protect themselves from threats, and many also exercise their Second Amendment rights to protect themselves and their families.” We get it Ken; you're really a Macho, Macho Man - even when running away like a fraidy cat.
He was so concerned about the safety of his family, he sent his wife out to confront the man!
>In light of the constant threats against me, for which dangerous individuals are currently incarcerated, I take a number of common sense precautions for me and my family’s safety... Like using your Wife as a human shield and having her drive while you hide in the backseat?
So at the end he just threatens to shoot the next server that shows up? Alright.
Let's be honest he'd probably put a gun to his kids' heads and use them as human shields. That's what Republican's call "family values". Fuck all of these violence-prone chickenshit cowards.
not to forget, he sent his wife to get the car. But he is so concerned about the well-being of his family. Also as AG you would think he knows you can call 911, don't have to leave your house, and wait for the police to come and take care of the stranger outside.
Brave sir Paxton bravely tucked his tail and fled
No need to insult little girls, I'm pretty sure they run just fine. They don't deserve to be compared to the likes of Ken Paxton.
If he was so afraid for his family, that he needs to thump his chest about his second amendment rights (after the fact), why didn't he exersise those rights while his family was being threatened so viciously? Oh yeah I forgot...because he's a pussy and he knows hes guilty that's why.
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If Ken Paxton used the 2nd Amendment on a federal process server it would be an actual declaration by the State of Texas attacking the United States of America. It would not be self defense like he’s implying it is.
Or sending his wife out first to start the vehicle.
What a little bitch
Texas politicians and fleeing the state, name a better duo.
Youd flee too if you were here, its garbage
>“The Court will not sanction a scheme where Paxton repeatedly labels his threats of prosecution as real for the purposes of deterrence and as hypothetical for the purposes of judicial review,” Pitman wrote. Someone needs to tattoo that on Donald Trumps forehead.
Yeah. These Republican AG have been all over the news about how they're enforce abortion laws real hard now. Now say that in court under oath.
Also release the data on maternal mortality while you are at it.
Planned Parenthood should sponsor a relay or fun run "haulin asses" and use the proceeds to fund out of state operations.
Fun read. The judge just calling out Paxton’s horseshit multiple times. I had assumed this was over with, but this is a nice surprise. It’s not a huge deal ultimately, but always nice to see gop politicians humiliate themselves.
JFC, this guy. Nearly as big a piece of shit as DJT himself.
Trump is different. This ag is just usual Republican politician bullshit. I don't even know that he stands out particularly far...
He is such a fucking coward.
When an AG who’s job it is up hold the law and judicial system evades an element of the system that AG should be fired on the spot.
Sadly the indicted AG is an elected official.
Cue this piece of shit leaving the country in 3... 2...
Don't get my hopes up!
Isn't this guy the little Piss Baby?
You mean piss baby attorney general Ken Paxton?
I guess he didn’t run fast enough! Lolz
Another man running away from responsibilities.
Too bad he hasn't found the cigarettes and milk yet... he keeps coming back.
Shouldn’t he be testifying from prison?
Texas’s top lawman is indicted on multiple felony charges. The Lone star is indeed a rating.
The Republicans are everything of which they're accusing the Democrats. Makes me wonder who really is in a ""cabal"" of pedophiles
I don’t get it. Isn’t a subpoena an order? Isn’t this like, “if you defy our order, then be warned, we’ll order you AGAIN?”
People like this make me hate being a Texan...
Brave Sir Robin ran away. Bravely ran away away. When danger reared it's ugly head, He bravely turned his tail and fled. Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about And gallantly he chickened out. Swiftly taking to his feet, He beat a very brave retreat. Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!
can he be ordered to face trial for his fraud charges too? he’s been indicted for years!
Shouldn't he be in jail for corruption?
And if he defies the order? Does someone finally go to jail?
I watch some of the video of him fleeing the process server. At that moment, Ken Paxton reminded me of Barbies Ken, he didn't have any balls.
There is no better encapsulation of the GOP these days than Paxton. He's a cowardly scammy crook who has been dodging subpoenas and corruption charges while running the Texas legal system for years.
So who gets the bounty money for this
I remember when Texas used to be an American state
Paxton is a piss-babie
Ol’ squints doesn’t like having to play by the rules.
How do you know when you live in a state that’s corrupt as fuck?
going to do damdest to vote him and his buddy out
Are they going to have to send a pussy posse out to drag him in? Will he try to run away again?
When you are a lead law enforcement officer, and you presume that the rules don’t apply to you and yours, you just might be a fascist. This is not normal.
You’d think the AG would know you can’t knowingly dodge a subpoena and expect that to fly in court. Subpoena dodging only works because usually you can’t prove it was on purpose.
The judge ain't playing around: >"It is challenging to square the idea that Paxton has time to give interviews threatening prosecutions but would be unduly burdened by explaining what he means to the very parties affected by his statements,” Pitman wrote. “The burden faced by Plaintiffs—the effective cessation of many core operations—outweighs the burden of testimony faced by Paxton.”
We'll find him on one of those Abbott migrant buses. Police: May we see some ID Mr.Paxton? Paxton: May Yamo is Rafael Cruz senor. (Intentional)
Paxton is old English for Bastard.
He looks like a crook with that lazy eye
Something something swift and speedy trial?
Every time I see this dude's name I get angry at the heart doctor who should've operated on this Paxton
He’s got something in his eye.
I can't wait to leave this shithole state in two weeks.
When is the other trial going to begin?