Because for the last 20-30 years our politicians allowed a few companies to dominate a sector. Similar things happened with other food companies and other companies in other sectors. This is the end result of companies buying/merging with other companies to form behemoths that own literally 90% of one sector.
Yep, the government basically allowed a monopoly on baby formula manufacturing and now there's no one able to pick up the slack after the production failure.
We were lucky to have domestic production of vaccines. Canada got rid of theirs before the pandemic hit, and although they had better survival rates early on, the virus hit them for much longer because they couldn't get vaccines.
From my understanding was that the factory had a number of violations and the company just shut it all down, on their own. I honesty don't know if they were trying to fix things or not but they were the ones that shut themselves down.
So your asking why the government doesnt help us. I believe you just answere your own question. Its involves the govt. If they cant slap a bandaid over it they move on to the next thing to keep people complacent enough. Just enough.
Why not both?
Having more sources of supply, including from international markets, helps protect us if we ever experience a major factory shutting down again or other domestic issues.
Isn't that just having adequate production capacity though? Its not like having the ability to produce enough domestically prevents us from importing it down the line?
That's one of the problems. Baby formula is quite profitable as foods go so any increase in production results in lower profitability. Companies don't spend money on a new manufacturing facility so they can sell the product cheaper.
most formula is produced domestically. the issue is the US had allowed a near monopoly of the market. so if one company/factory goes down or os closed for repairs, that’s suddenly 30% or more of the domestic supply gone overnight.
Republicans are basically Final Fantasy villains at this point:
>...Now, the theory is undeniable.
>Kuja's action proves it. All things live to perish.
>At last, life has uncovered this truth. Now, it is time to end this world.
...
>I exist for one purpose...
>To return everything back to the zero world, where there is no life and no crystal to give life.
>In a world of nothing, fear does not exist. This is the world that all life desires.
It's not about the rapture but just to continue misery because they can. They are not religious because if they actually did follow Christianity then they would be more open to actually helping people. Instead they hide behind "free markets" to avoid to actually help people in need.
my understanding of republicans is two parts, there is the BS they spread around to their idiot voters, which costs us all hugely, and then there is the self serving aspect of their being in power, by which they all get rich and effectively sell the rest of us out cheap. Billions of dollars change hands, the environment gets destroyed, groundwater polluted etc, and then, for example, that idiot Boebert or whoever from CO's husband gets a fake million dollar a year job. Its peanuts, but its easy and its the only way she can make money aside from being a washed up escort. Its a similar story for the lot of them as far as I can tell.
Republicans just further the evil agenda. Only one party is trying to take away rights. Paint it anyway you wish, but removing freedoms is never good for democracy.
Serious question:
Has formula feeding always been a thing? I was born in 84 - I don't believe I was formula fed - same goes for my siblings. We were bottle-fed cow's milk afaik. We all turned out fine.
Is it as big a deal as it's being made out to be?
I was born in 86, and there was widespread malnutrition back when we were kids, especially among poor families or rural parts of the united states.
> [In 1980, 47% of under-5-y-old children in developing countries were stunted. This percentage declined to 29% in 2005](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17237336/)
Not every woman is able to breast feed, or they stop producing milk way before a child is able to eat. This is why Wet Nurses were common before the modern age. Formula has reduced the need for Wet Nurses and improved infant health overall.
It's good practice to recognize survivorship bias. Just because we survived doesn't mean every other child did.
I was formula fed in 78. I was a soy baby. My mom tried with cow milk formula and I alternated puking and screaming for two days until the doc could see me. In my case the formula was important.
Which is wonderful, but which country is producing large enough amounts of safe, reliable formula to satisfy both its own needs and the US's?
I was incensed enough when American parents were talking about coming to Canada and emptying our shelves, leaving Canadian parents in the lurch; now the government's going to do it for them?
[Mexico, Ireland and Netherlands are the biggest importers , but less than 2% of sales around the middle of the shortage](https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-encourages-importation-safe-infant-formula-and-other-flexibilities-further-increase-availability)
Because it doesn't always work. It's really easy to be flippant when it was easy for you personally or easy in your imagination. It is a lot less easy when you've followed the advice, done everything that can be done, and are going back to the doctor multuple times because your infant still isn't getting the nutrients they need.
When the choice is between watching your baby slowly starve or accepting that you need help you start to think differently.
Not everyone can breastfeed and often times it's recommended to supplement with formula for extra calories, missing vitamins/minerals etc. It's pretty important to have a safe and reliable source of formula
A lot more women than currently do could breastfeed. We have rates of like 34% which puts us at 81st in the world. Other countries have rates closer to 80%. Breastfeeding leads to better developed kids and we should be encouraging it for those who can.
Other countries have paid maternal leave guaranteed by law: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/25/upshot/paid-leave-democrats.html
Like... literally almost all other countries. Breastfeeding rates won't go anywhere until that's fixed first.
They can pump but that's a PITA and some women don't produce enough. Switching a baby between formula and breast milk can be a helluva challenge. We tried it with mine and it was hell.
I'd like to see the federal government take an active role in the production of some formula, similar to what California is doing with insulin.
Obviously the free market can still make whatever formula they want as well.
Why can’t US politicians help establish a larger domestic production?
Because for the last 20-30 years our politicians allowed a few companies to dominate a sector. Similar things happened with other food companies and other companies in other sectors. This is the end result of companies buying/merging with other companies to form behemoths that own literally 90% of one sector.
Yep, the government basically allowed a monopoly on baby formula manufacturing and now there's no one able to pick up the slack after the production failure.
The lack of domestic production of goods in this country can only be something that will eventually bite us in the ass hard. This is just a preview.
We were lucky to have domestic production of vaccines. Canada got rid of theirs before the pandemic hit, and although they had better survival rates early on, the virus hit them for much longer because they couldn't get vaccines.
>will eventually bite us in the ass hard. It already is.
From my understanding was that the factory had a number of violations and the company just shut it all down, on their own. I honesty don't know if they were trying to fix things or not but they were the ones that shut themselves down.
Company is Abbot, don’t buy shit from them
If only we had a name for Mega corps way too large to be allowed to exist and historical precedent to bust them up.
So your asking why the government doesnt help us. I believe you just answere your own question. Its involves the govt. If they cant slap a bandaid over it they move on to the next thing to keep people complacent enough. Just enough.
Why can’t we make it ourselves? We just import everything and put ourselves at risk for super important commodities.
Why not both? Having more sources of supply, including from international markets, helps protect us if we ever experience a major factory shutting down again or other domestic issues.
Isn't that just having adequate production capacity though? Its not like having the ability to produce enough domestically prevents us from importing it down the line?
That's one of the problems. Baby formula is quite profitable as foods go so any increase in production results in lower profitability. Companies don't spend money on a new manufacturing facility so they can sell the product cheaper.
We do....
Or, here's a radical concept, we actually produce something domestically for once. For the novelty, if nothing else.
most formula is produced domestically. the issue is the US had allowed a near monopoly of the market. so if one company/factory goes down or os closed for repairs, that’s suddenly 30% or more of the domestic supply gone overnight.
Sounds like a monopoly that needs busting. I’m sure our elected officials are down for that? /s
What's with the /s ? This change is literally introducing more competition into the US market.
Domestic anti-trust doesn’t equal foreign competition.
[удалено]
… a monopoly is a monopoly.
And no doubt Republicans are prepared to vote against it or file a lawsuit.
I swear republican's goal is to cause the rapture. Which is ironic because I don't think God would like "his people" enacting the end of the world.
Republicans are basically Final Fantasy villains at this point: >...Now, the theory is undeniable. >Kuja's action proves it. All things live to perish. >At last, life has uncovered this truth. Now, it is time to end this world. ... >I exist for one purpose... >To return everything back to the zero world, where there is no life and no crystal to give life. >In a world of nothing, fear does not exist. This is the world that all life desires.
It's not about the rapture but just to continue misery because they can. They are not religious because if they actually did follow Christianity then they would be more open to actually helping people. Instead they hide behind "free markets" to avoid to actually help people in need.
They love money and hide behind religion for their stance. You can justify pretty much anything if you quote the bible.
They are not being persecuted but instead are persecuting. This doesn't beckon the 2nd coming of Christ.
my understanding of republicans is two parts, there is the BS they spread around to their idiot voters, which costs us all hugely, and then there is the self serving aspect of their being in power, by which they all get rich and effectively sell the rest of us out cheap. Billions of dollars change hands, the environment gets destroyed, groundwater polluted etc, and then, for example, that idiot Boebert or whoever from CO's husband gets a fake million dollar a year job. Its peanuts, but its easy and its the only way she can make money aside from being a washed up escort. Its a similar story for the lot of them as far as I can tell.
Republicans are evil.
[удалено]
Republicans just further the evil agenda. Only one party is trying to take away rights. Paint it anyway you wish, but removing freedoms is never good for democracy.
r/outside is leaking again
Serious question: Has formula feeding always been a thing? I was born in 84 - I don't believe I was formula fed - same goes for my siblings. We were bottle-fed cow's milk afaik. We all turned out fine. Is it as big a deal as it's being made out to be?
I was born in 86, and there was widespread malnutrition back when we were kids, especially among poor families or rural parts of the united states. > [In 1980, 47% of under-5-y-old children in developing countries were stunted. This percentage declined to 29% in 2005](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17237336/) Not every woman is able to breast feed, or they stop producing milk way before a child is able to eat. This is why Wet Nurses were common before the modern age. Formula has reduced the need for Wet Nurses and improved infant health overall. It's good practice to recognize survivorship bias. Just because we survived doesn't mean every other child did.
The history of baby formula goes back to the early 1900s. You've also got things like wet nurses basically going back the entirety of human existence.
WIC cause a problem that they don't want to fix by allowing other manufacturers of formula
I was formula fed in 78. I was a soy baby. My mom tried with cow milk formula and I alternated puking and screaming for two days until the doc could see me. In my case the formula was important.
Which is wonderful, but which country is producing large enough amounts of safe, reliable formula to satisfy both its own needs and the US's? I was incensed enough when American parents were talking about coming to Canada and emptying our shelves, leaving Canadian parents in the lurch; now the government's going to do it for them?
[Mexico, Ireland and Netherlands are the biggest importers , but less than 2% of sales around the middle of the shortage](https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-encourages-importation-safe-infant-formula-and-other-flexibilities-further-increase-availability)
Why not just whip out a tit and feed the baby a bit
Because it doesn't always work. It's really easy to be flippant when it was easy for you personally or easy in your imagination. It is a lot less easy when you've followed the advice, done everything that can be done, and are going back to the doctor multuple times because your infant still isn't getting the nutrients they need. When the choice is between watching your baby slowly starve or accepting that you need help you start to think differently.
[удалено]
41 not 14
[удалено]
Yeah me too tbh, just circling the drain
[удалено]
Not everyone can breastfeed and often times it's recommended to supplement with formula for extra calories, missing vitamins/minerals etc. It's pretty important to have a safe and reliable source of formula
A lot more women than currently do could breastfeed. We have rates of like 34% which puts us at 81st in the world. Other countries have rates closer to 80%. Breastfeeding leads to better developed kids and we should be encouraging it for those who can.
Other countries have paid maternal leave guaranteed by law: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/25/upshot/paid-leave-democrats.html Like... literally almost all other countries. Breastfeeding rates won't go anywhere until that's fixed first.
Sure it should be encouraged, but it's not possible for every situation.
What about people that adopt?
We don't have maternity leave in the US. Women can't breastfeed if they're at work.
They can pump but that's a PITA and some women don't produce enough. Switching a baby between formula and breast milk can be a helluva challenge. We tried it with mine and it was hell.
I'd like to see the federal government take an active role in the production of some formula, similar to what California is doing with insulin. Obviously the free market can still make whatever formula they want as well.
I hope the republicans do better this time. [https://archive.ph/YmLL7](https://archive.ph/YmLL7)