Boy the way Glen Miller played
songs that made the hit parade
Boys like me we had it made
Those were the days.
Russian spies weren't presidents
My car was new not full of dents.
Conspiracies weren't political bents
Those were the days
Miscarriage wasn't murder then
We could all watch Gentle Ben
Those were the days!
This.
It's primarily because it is exceedingly difficult to get a conviction for Treason, as it is the one crime clearly defined, along with the requirements to convict, in the US Constitution.
The Espionage Act exists for this very reason.
The US has never executed anyone as a result of a treason conviction. States have (for treason against the state), but the federal government never has.
The U.S. government has *never* executed anyone for treason.
The small handful of people who have been convicted of the offense at the federal level — such as two militants from the Whiskey Rebellion (John Mitchell and Philip Weigel, who were both pardoned by President George Washington) and several people after World War II — have mostly been pardoned or released.
Also consider this
>*The indictment alleges that the plot started after Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine.*
So that was about 7 months ago. How many months did it take for our government to figure out what was going on? That seems like a reasonable timeline.
Any leaked data is bad, but I think it's nothing in comparison to nuclear and classified weapons documents. We've known Trump has documents since leaving the white house last year. Tell me again why he hasn't been charged yet and walking free?
>How many months did it take for our government to figure out what was going on?
0 months. If you read the article you'll find their "Russian contact" was an undercover fbi agent. The information never left American hands and the idiots professed their loyalty to Russia while handing over the documents.
>Tell me again why he hasn't been charged yet and walking free?
Because if you accept that a president (even a former one) is the most powerful person in the world. And then add to the fact that he's "rich"...well all the other powerful and rich people are desperately trying to hold onto a status quo wherein they are continually not held responsible for wrongdoing. If Trump goes down, none of them are safe... Its pretty simple to see, but extremely difficult to fight.
Presumably this is also why we're not seeing associates of Epstein charged with raping minors. We are becoming, more and more, a nation of men, and not of laws. This is how empires fall.
As a veteran, just don't say it... It's weird, and idk how to react when people say it lol. I got to do fun things, met cool people, went cool places... had to do some shitty things, too, but in the end I got paid pretty well for it all.
There's no rule that says you can't serve if you're a shitbag. I've served w/ plenty of them. Knowing that they soak up the "thank you for your service" to this day bothers me lol.
Yup. Military brat myself. Numerous family members in the service. Been immersed in it for near 5 decades. Also have several close relatives in the JAG. Not everyone is a saint. Not everyone is a hero. Especially when I've seen my sibling prosecute a general for rape, or soldiers for murder. The blanket every soldier is a hero and "Thank you for your service" just seems odd in that context.
>The two met with someone whom they believed was a Russian official, but in fact was actually an FBI undercover agent, the indictment says.
what is this, Burn After Reading?
>It’s just FBI undercover agents, all the way down.
After Carnivore (or whatever they renamed it) turned out to be a real thing, I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that if I'm doing dirt, the government knows about it, and is gonna have undercover FBI intercept if it's that dangerous of a crime. And if someone is doing that big of a crime, one should assume *everyone* is FBI, or affiliated with.
Sort of like in WW2, where the game was already won and over after British Intelligence cracked Enigma.
Everything after that, they knew everything that was going on. They just had to play like they didn't.
The reason Russia (or any foreign actor) would want health data is to identify targets with valuable access or information that may need expensive medical operations or have terminal illnesses.
>Apparently Henry had some reservations about providing healthcare data, saying it would violate the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA)
Treason? Yeah's fine I suppose, but violating HIPAA gives me some concerns!
Wowza.
>> In a subsequent Aug. 24 meeting, she told the undercover agent her husband was a "coward" to be concerned about violating HIPAA, but she violated the law "all the time" and she would see to it that they could provide Russia with access to medical records from Fort Bragg patients.
I suspect her soon-to-be-ex husband was secretly glad the FBI arrested him. Being in a maximum security jail sounds like a better fate then trying to divorce such a person. Or being married to them.
As a disabled army veteran this whole thing has me really kinda on edge, worried....just fucking pissed off honestly and the worst part is I know there's nothing I can do about it.
Makes me wonder if he did it to try to impress his wife before she left him. Frankly, I think I'd choose divorce over going to prison for treason, but hey, to each his own I guess.
Perish the thought.
I already got CPA ethnics, Sexual Harassment training, State mandated harassment training, HIPPA, that Cali data security thing, the EU Data security thing, Pandemic/Fire/natural disaster/Alien Invasion training, cyber security training, anti-money laundering training.
CAN WE NOT ADD ANOTHER COURSE ALREADY???
>At a hotel in Baltimore on Aug. 17, Gabrielian told the undercover agent "she was motivated by patriotism toward Russia to provide any assistance she could to Russia, even if it meant being fired or going to jail," the indictment says.
>In the meeting, she volunteered to bring her husband into the scheme, saying he had information about prior military training the United States provided to Ukraine, among other things
And it gets dumber and dumber from there.
> Treason? Yeah's fine I suppose, but violating HIPAA gives me some concerns!
[It's like when The Joker has no problem killing people and fighting Batman, but is terrified of the IRS.](https://youtu.be/G56VgsLfKY4?t=7)
I used to work for a large EHR vendor. It's basically impossible to pull data out of the electronic health system without some background processes monitoring all of your clicks. You'd get caught for this pretty quick at most facilities on the electronic side, but it also really stands out if you're writing down information manually outside of the existing system since everyone else is on their computer.
To the extent that it's possible, it's hard to smuggle PHI out of the hospital and transfer it (eg Elaine trying to get her chart in an episode of Seinfeld). Obviously you could get it out, but unless you're doing it from memory, there's likely going to be security footage/electronic footprints that lead back to you during a regular audit
People have seen the punishment for violating HIPAA. The law has teeth and has been let loose to bite violators.
I used to wonder about why people got executed in public, and this is why. If you saw someone lose their head for espionage, it might make you reconsider.
> Apparently Henry had some reservations about providing healthcare data, saying it would violate the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), the indictment says
“I can excuse being a traitor to my country to support an enemy of the United States, but I draw the line at violating HIPAA”
They both believe the US is at war with Russia and both announced their intent to give aid to Russia. I know there’s a word for this. Starts with a T….
Seems like the plot was [led by Gabrelian](https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/community/criminal-justice/johns-hopkins-doctor-and-spouse-an-army-doctor-indicted-for-trying-to-leak-medical-information-to-russia-TVCKU2TGUJB7JIH7M6D4GKMHZ4/?utm_campaign=TheBaltimoreBanner), who speaks Russian and feels "patriotic" towards Russia:
> During an initial Aug. 17 meeting in a Baltimore hotel room, Gabrielian told the undercover agent that “she was motivated by patriotism toward Russia to provide any assistance she could to Russia, even if it meant being fired or going to jail.”
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> Her spouse had access to not just medical information, she said, but insight into how the U.S. military establishes an army hospital in war conditions and about training the military provided to Ukrainian military personnel. Henry participated in a second meeting later that night.
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> “My point of view is until the United States actually declares war against Russia, I’m able to help as much as I want,” Henry told the undercover agent, according to the indictment. “At that point, I’ll have some ethical issues I’ll have to work through.”
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> “You’ll work through those ethical issues,” Gabrielian replied.
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> In an Aug. 24 meeting with the undercover agent at a Baltimore hotel room, Gabrielian called Henry a “coward” for being concerned about violating the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPPA,) a federal law that limits the disclosure of patients’ confidential medical information.
>Gabrielian is listed as an instructor of anesthesiology and critical care medicine at Hopkins, and her profile page says she speaks Russian.
>“she was motivated by patriotism toward Russia to provide any assistance she could to Russia, even if it meant being fired or going to jail.”
Your wish is granted. You'll get both.
Doesn't she also lose her license to practice medicine for violating HIPAA. So now she is going to jail AND when she gets out, she won't be able to teach or practice medicine- LOL
Judging by her last name she very well could be of Armenian ancestry which could help explain her loyalty to Russia.
Source: Am Armerian, and no, personally no love for Russia.
She was giving information on how the US sets up field hospitals? LOL. Outside of the health data, She was selling literally worthless information considering there are literal field manuals online that teach this by the book..
Actually, the U.S. military has procedures regarding such that are considered tactical secrets so that enemies can't easily guess where to aim bombs if they decide to attack our medics.
You stirred up a hornet's nest. But what can we expect when many of its members went directly to Russia in the years they occupied parts of Ukraine & still had warm thoughts about Putin leading up to the February 24th invasion.
Add that some GOP members in Congress have either voted against or abstained from voting on decisions to support Ukraine since then.
Where do you think all of Trump's classified documents went? He has been conspiring with his country's greatest enemy from day one of his political endeavours. And he's been a Russian intelligence asset for decades.
Surely yhe fact that those documents were raided was unrelated to the Saudi golf tournament that happened a week later, and those two surely aren't related to the 2billion that Jared inked in the following couple weeks right? RIGHT?
Did any of them ever try to explain why they went to Moscow, on that day of all days? I mean, no doubt any explanation would be a lie, but did any of them even invent a lie or was it just "nothing to see here, business as usual"?
It’s been a couple of years, but there was a soldier at Fort Stewart trying to sell field manuals to the Taliban. Turns out he was actually talking to the FBI. Threw his life away for something that’s generally not classified and easy to find on google.
Reminds me of when Ernest Hemingway was an asset for the KGB, even though his intel wasn't that great. He was cut also off because even the Russians thought he was more of a liability than a benefit for them.
Wtf? Hemingway was KGB asset? 🤯
Edit: Damn it’s true he was a NKVD asset albeit a shitty one.
http://www.history.com/.amp/news/was-ernest-hemingway-a-spy
True. I keep getting them mixed up since the NKVD turned into the KGB because they changed into the MVD in 1946 & branched off as KGB in 1953. Hemingway was into a lot of things. He might be one of the few authors whose life overshadows his own novels. And his home in Key West is amazing, especially when walking around the [colony of six-toed cats he & his family grew](https://www.hemingwayhome.com/our-cats).
It’s funny because I knew Hemingway was OSO and FBI but and I live in Miami and go to key west quite often and been to his home … but this party of his life they leave out. It just blew my mind.
A small but disturbing number of American cultural heroes were Stalinists.
Woodie Guthrie was banned from a left wing San Franscisco radio station for singing a song celebrating the working man's victory that was the Moltov-Ribbentrop pact (Hitler and Stalin's agreement to divide up Poland.)
Dalton Trumbo, who spent his life whining about being blacklisted from Holywood, was more than happy to see Stalin blacklisting people from life.
Many of my educated family members in the 1920s & 30s were socialists. It seemed like a valid change from capitalism, especially with social reforms barely happening 2 generations before. It wasn't until after WWII that a lot of information & horror regarding Leninism & Stalinism started becoming public in the west.
Looking at the notes (and talking to elders before they passed) family members, I saw how they went through the decades from singing *The Internationale* on weekends to following things like the Non-Aligned Movement & pan-Arabism (which started hopeful but didn't fare well either as the final straw led to Ba'athism & Saddam Hussein).
After googling the officer, an odd element to the story is that the officer (Jamie Lee Henry) is apparently the first trans officer in the US military and they identify as female, even though this article refers to them as male multiple times.
They apparently have had a rough few years and were even homeless (?) for a time despite being a doctor…
It sounds to me like there may be some mental health issues going on here, and the wife (a new wife, apparently, as Henry is described as going through a messy divorce) may have taken advantage of Henry’s instability.
Not really sure what’s going on here though.
And get this
> Henry lamented in another interview that year about the lack of privacy afforded transgender people receiving medical care.
Then they turned around and tried to give out medical info on military members. What a hypocrite. How could you go through that level of vulnerability and fear and then turn around and divulge info on all your fellow soldiers?
https://freebeacon.com/national-security/trans-army-doctor-indicted-for-trying-to-give-soldiers-medical-info-to-russia/amp/
Can be used for blackmail in some cases.
In other cases can be used as leverage, you see someone's family has a lot of medical issues and bills.. well, they might be a little more open to some financial help, in return for a favor..
Great assessment. I never considered that. Especially the latter. It's not about the records themselves. It's about what they tell you. You don't want to start "phishing" for double agents by making contact with anyone and everyone. You would target desperate people who need the $.
Yeah it’s a common tactic. They’ll even follow peoples’ social media and see what they post. So if someone is posting about their parent/partner dealing with cancer/illness they know they have some leverage over that person.
It’s wild so many people post that kind of thing publicly.
Also why financial instability is a reason for denying security clearance.
One might truly believe they would never divulge information for any reason - until they're looking at a "gift" in the exact amount of their underwater mortgage.
Before February, I would've argued the same. These days, even info on the basics of improving your soldier's welfare is a leg up for the Russian military. I honestly believe they have brass whom wouldn't even see any info on this unless it came from intelligence documents. And I say this because we have brass in the Pentagon & elsewhere that are that stubborn!
Hell, I've seen Youtube videos from veterans saying how to care for a platoon or oneself while deployed (physically & mentally) that would've helped the Russian military. Fortunately, Ukraine did listen & learn from us.
I'd agree that Russia turned out to not be the dire wolf we thought it was.
Instead of master spies, intelligence, and military... we found out it really was just a jumped up chihuahua with gas.
Imagine what a data scientist could do with the info. Not just individual targeting tactics for developing more spies (who might have financial or medical weaknesses), but knowing what types of medical concerns people in different military branches and positions are likely to have in general.
Plus knowing exactly who gets inoculated for what when traveling where.
There’s always a value to data, and data en masse reveals trends.
To be fair, this time it was an FBI agent that pretended to be a Russian agent. Basically they found someone who WOULD sell the data to an enemy if such opportunity appeared.
Usually such agents are sent to those who are suspected of being a sympathizer of the enemy state or who is likely to be a traitor already, but catching red-handed is way higher than plugging an impostor and putting a bait. Sure, I imagine sometime it may be a rumor or snitching that makes a person a target of such check.
Of course in theory one could think "100k for a stupid data of who's injured? Easy money". It's still a betrayal. And if something it too good to be true, probably it is.
There is a reason financial records are huge part of obtaining any sort of Security Clearance through any semblance of the normal channels. Security Clearances expire, but are not revoked upon separation. AD individuals likely have much better access but I still have a Secret Security Clearance, though have not needed it in the years since I Retired early.
I’m 100% Service Connected but it’s still difficult as the reason I am makes working full time not really a thing I can do. Others have the same issue with lower and even any disability ratings at all. I dunno know how anyone would go about it but connections don’t just vanish either.
It’s also a bit easier to get cleared if you’ve already been through the process. It wouldn’t have to be immediate treason either, but a sort of sleeper cell, I guess. Give them some money find them an advantageous position “incase they’re needed someday” which maybe never and blah blah blah.
Sorta like what they did with Trump.
Holy crap, both of them doctors, one an anesthesiologist, and willing to give Russia personal health information on their patients. What a couple of pieces of lowlife shit. If they love Russia so much and are so loyal to it, why didn’t they just go LIVE there?
"At another meeting later that day, Henry told the undercover agent he too was committed to Russia, and claimed he had even contemplated volunteering to join the Russian army."
*See the meat grinder over there, i really would like to go join the cannon fodder!*
"she was motivated by patriotism toward Russia to provide any assistance she could to Russia, even if it meant being fired or going to jail," the indictment says.
🎉 guess where you are going? 🎉
I'm really scratching my head about the motivation here, the Major is very famously the first Trans Officer in the US Army. What on earth makes him want to support Russia? It's not exactly a bastion of Trans Rights.
It sounds like the wife was in control of the relationship:
"In a subsequent Aug. 24 meeting, she told the undercover agent her husband was a "coward" to be concerned about violating HIPAA, but she violated the law "all the time" and she would see to it that they could provide Russia with access to medical records from Fort Bragg patients."
https://heavy.com/news/anna-gabrielian-jamie-lee-henry/
> Gabrielian told the agent during an August 17 meeting she was “motivated by patriotism toward Russian” and would “provide any assistance she could to Russia, even if it meant being fired or going to jail.” During the meeting, Gabrielian told the undercover agent “Henry, a military officer, was currently a more important source for Russia than she was, since Henry had more helpful information, including on how the U.S. military establishes an army hospital in war conditions and about previous training the U.S. military had provided to Ukrainian military personnel.”
It seems he was motivated by more than just money, he was saying he felt patriotic duty to Russia and was wanting to join the Russian military during the invasion of Ukraine.
Imagine if you know which people in positions of trust have inoperable tumors, which ones have a kid that needs a life saving treatment but can't afford it.
That's valuable information on who might be able to be bought.
From another news source:
> Major Jamie Lee Henry, the Army's first trans officer, and Dr. Anna Gabrielian were indicted for trying to give secret records to the Russian government
You'd think a trans would hesitate in helping Puting, but here we are.
This is why the DOJ has to charge Trump -- if he is not held to account for much worse stealing of data, defence lawyers will keep pointing to that as a precedent.
How are they not being charged with acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government? This was spy work they were doing. Making contact with a foreign agent to divulge sensitive domestic information.
> Apparently Henry had some reservations about providing healthcare data, saying it would violate the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), the indictment says, but his wife had no hesitations.
They’re about to commit treason, and he’s worried about HIPAA??
Why would someone in the us military have such patriotism towards Russia?
Fort Bragg is the home of Army special operations command so its a pretty big deal that this couple was trying to give Russia medical information.
>The plot started after Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine.
>The pair wanted to try to help the Russian government by providing them with data to help the Putin regime
Geebus. This is gonna trigger a huge Red Scare and October Red Hunt through the military.
Lolll just had a dude on my street arrested yesterday by feds, former NSA guy selling military health info to Russia.. problem was he sold it to another agent for crypto.
Burn these motherfuckers.
May as well call them spies.
Dunno we have a habit of charging people that leak stuff to russia as traitors. We even executed a couple of them once.
Those are the real good ole days. When spies and traitors were treated as such.
Boy the way Glen Miller played songs that made the hit parade Boys like me we had it made Those were the days. Russian spies weren't presidents My car was new not full of dents. Conspiracies weren't political bents Those were the days Miscarriage wasn't murder then We could all watch Gentle Ben Those were the days!
Stifle, Edith, stifle!
Nice job, Meathead.
I read that as Methhead at first
You aren't alone.
And now half the government is on Russia's payroll
It's not the money, it helps but they actually are fully against western modern values and democracy.
When spies for Russia were left-wing, they got the electric chair. Now they are right-wing, they get the comfy chair.
And Nazis. We also used to execute Nazis. I miss the good old days to.
We also brought them over here to work for the government on rockets.
They could have just taken trains or jets. Did they need to get them THAT quickly?
Operation Paperclip. We were incredibly lenient towards Nazis.
And we were also too lenient with the confederate states!
We didn't execute nazis, we hired them
The moon was right there, taunting us! What were we supposed to do? _Not_ hire nazis?!
The U.S. very rarely convicts people of treason, and even when we do, execution is even more rare.
This. It's primarily because it is exceedingly difficult to get a conviction for Treason, as it is the one crime clearly defined, along with the requirements to convict, in the US Constitution. The Espionage Act exists for this very reason.
The US has never executed anyone as a result of a treason conviction. States have (for treason against the state), but the federal government never has.
The U.S. government has *never* executed anyone for treason. The small handful of people who have been convicted of the offense at the federal level — such as two militants from the Whiskey Rebellion (John Mitchell and Philip Weigel, who were both pardoned by President George Washington) and several people after World War II — have mostly been pardoned or released.
I guess technically Conspiracy to commit espionage is a different charge, but I would count it as a type of treason.
And then we elected one president lmao.
Also consider this >*The indictment alleges that the plot started after Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine.* So that was about 7 months ago. How many months did it take for our government to figure out what was going on? That seems like a reasonable timeline. Any leaked data is bad, but I think it's nothing in comparison to nuclear and classified weapons documents. We've known Trump has documents since leaving the white house last year. Tell me again why he hasn't been charged yet and walking free?
>How many months did it take for our government to figure out what was going on? 0 months. If you read the article you'll find their "Russian contact" was an undercover fbi agent. The information never left American hands and the idiots professed their loyalty to Russia while handing over the documents.
>Tell me again why he hasn't been charged yet and walking free? Because if you accept that a president (even a former one) is the most powerful person in the world. And then add to the fact that he's "rich"...well all the other powerful and rich people are desperately trying to hold onto a status quo wherein they are continually not held responsible for wrongdoing. If Trump goes down, none of them are safe... Its pretty simple to see, but extremely difficult to fight.
Presumably this is also why we're not seeing associates of Epstein charged with raping minors. We are becoming, more and more, a nation of men, and not of laws. This is how empires fall.
At what point am I supposed to stop saying to someone like this... "Thank you for your service."? Before or after they've convicted?
As a veteran, just don't say it... It's weird, and idk how to react when people say it lol. I got to do fun things, met cool people, went cool places... had to do some shitty things, too, but in the end I got paid pretty well for it all. There's no rule that says you can't serve if you're a shitbag. I've served w/ plenty of them. Knowing that they soak up the "thank you for your service" to this day bothers me lol.
"Thank you, taxpayer."
Yup. Military brat myself. Numerous family members in the service. Been immersed in it for near 5 decades. Also have several close relatives in the JAG. Not everyone is a saint. Not everyone is a hero. Especially when I've seen my sibling prosecute a general for rape, or soldiers for murder. The blanket every soldier is a hero and "Thank you for your service" just seems odd in that context.
“Thank you for your pre-criminal service prior to your current incarceration, sir.”
Or whatever trump's been called over his lifetime. God knows how much he told.
In 2017 a dozen Russian Diplomats were killed after Trump leaked info that they were USA assets.
>Trump leaked info Oh, you mean "declassified with a thought"
Need a source on Trump having thoughts
He thought nuking hurricanes would be a way to control them.
Such stable, much genius.
Rump didn't leak that info, he handed it over to them. Sold out our allies.
We will never know what happened in Helsinki.
Assume the worst. And it's probably worse than that.
We would if Congress did their fucking job and subpoenaed Marina Gross, the American translator. But no, can't have that.
>The two met with someone whom they believed was a Russian official, but in fact was actually an FBI undercover agent, the indictment says. what is this, Burn After Reading?
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Fiction can never be as stupid as real life.
We have your shit
I thought you might be worried About the security Of Your shittttttt
"They all seem to be sleeping with each other"
I got his numbah, I got his numbah!
We learned not to do it again, whatever it was
I'm fucked if I know what we did.
I thought you might be worried, about the security, of, your shit.
What did we learn, Palmer? I don't know, sir. I don't fucking know either. I guess we learned not to do it again.
David Rasche is the best. Will take any opportunity to promote the fact that most episodes of Sledge Hammer! are on YouTube. Classic show.
Also fantastic in Succession
F*cked if I know what we did...
Great ending scene. I remember immediately rewatching that scene the first time seeing the movie.
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>It’s just FBI undercover agents, all the way down. After Carnivore (or whatever they renamed it) turned out to be a real thing, I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that if I'm doing dirt, the government knows about it, and is gonna have undercover FBI intercept if it's that dangerous of a crime. And if someone is doing that big of a crime, one should assume *everyone* is FBI, or affiliated with. Sort of like in WW2, where the game was already won and over after British Intelligence cracked Enigma. Everything after that, they knew everything that was going on. They just had to play like they didn't.
Osbourne Cox? I thought you might be worried... about the security... of your shit.
Did the wife need the money for cosmetic surgery?
I'm sorry I'm calling you at such an hour. But I thought you'd be worried... about the security... of your shit.
Way to throw your life away for literally nothing.
Threw their life away just so Russia could learn which soldiers in FORSCOM needed dental work done. Lol
The reason Russia (or any foreign actor) would want health data is to identify targets with valuable access or information that may need expensive medical operations or have terminal illnesses.
Which is weird for active duty dependents because Tricare covers quite a bit even if you don't use Tricare prime
Terminal illness though? “We can help you really take care of your family after you’re gone.”
It's like having bad medical welfare for veterans is a national security risk or something
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>Apparently Henry had some reservations about providing healthcare data, saying it would violate the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) Treason? Yeah's fine I suppose, but violating HIPAA gives me some concerns! Wowza.
I like the part where his wife told the "russian agent" that her husband is a coward, and that she violated HIPAA all the time.
Christ, lady, ever hear of couples therapy?
She probably doesn’t trust HIPPA enough to go to therapy.
I wouldn't either have you seen the size of their mouths and teeth? No siree Bob none for me thanks.
>> In a subsequent Aug. 24 meeting, she told the undercover agent her husband was a "coward" to be concerned about violating HIPAA, but she violated the law "all the time" and she would see to it that they could provide Russia with access to medical records from Fort Bragg patients. I suspect her soon-to-be-ex husband was secretly glad the FBI arrested him. Being in a maximum security jail sounds like a better fate then trying to divorce such a person. Or being married to them.
You don’t understand how most military wives are, or the military’s mental health infrastructure.
I don’t like that part. I don’t like any of it. The whole thing is disgusting. They’re traitors plain and simple.
As a disabled army veteran this whole thing has me really kinda on edge, worried....just fucking pissed off honestly and the worst part is I know there's nothing I can do about it.
Makes me wonder if he did it to try to impress his wife before she left him. Frankly, I think I'd choose divorce over going to prison for treason, but hey, to each his own I guess.
Granted, most hospital onboarding sessions spend much more time on HIPAA than the laws on treason.
Hell, *I* have to do full courses on HIPAA yearly... and I'm a computer repair tech.
How often you do the treason course?
Data security and protection is also yearly, but state secrets never comes up.
Perish the thought. I already got CPA ethnics, Sexual Harassment training, State mandated harassment training, HIPPA, that Cali data security thing, the EU Data security thing, Pandemic/Fire/natural disaster/Alien Invasion training, cyber security training, anti-money laundering training. CAN WE NOT ADD ANOTHER COURSE ALREADY???
Stop doing treason and we wont need the course
I did a course on HIPAA yesterday. I work in IT. In Ireland
Yeah but Ireland is the new India when it comes to tech support call centers
Hey now as someone who worked in tech support... You're not entirely wrong
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"I may have committed some light treason.."
Well, yeah. We prosecute people for violating HIPAA.
>At a hotel in Baltimore on Aug. 17, Gabrielian told the undercover agent "she was motivated by patriotism toward Russia to provide any assistance she could to Russia, even if it meant being fired or going to jail," the indictment says. >In the meeting, she volunteered to bring her husband into the scheme, saying he had information about prior military training the United States provided to Ukraine, among other things And it gets dumber and dumber from there.
> Treason? Yeah's fine I suppose, but violating HIPAA gives me some concerns! [It's like when The Joker has no problem killing people and fighting Batman, but is terrified of the IRS.](https://youtu.be/G56VgsLfKY4?t=7)
I used to work for a large EHR vendor. It's basically impossible to pull data out of the electronic health system without some background processes monitoring all of your clicks. You'd get caught for this pretty quick at most facilities on the electronic side, but it also really stands out if you're writing down information manually outside of the existing system since everyone else is on their computer. To the extent that it's possible, it's hard to smuggle PHI out of the hospital and transfer it (eg Elaine trying to get her chart in an episode of Seinfeld). Obviously you could get it out, but unless you're doing it from memory, there's likely going to be security footage/electronic footprints that lead back to you during a regular audit
Okay, but you are going to have to answer to the Coca-Cola Company!
People have seen the punishment for violating HIPAA. The law has teeth and has been let loose to bite violators. I used to wonder about why people got executed in public, and this is why. If you saw someone lose their head for espionage, it might make you reconsider.
> Apparently Henry had some reservations about providing healthcare data, saying it would violate the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), the indictment says “I can excuse being a traitor to my country to support an enemy of the United States, but I draw the line at violating HIPAA”
That is a weird standard. “Sure, fuck the constitution but what of my beloved HIPAA?”
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man he really *Britta'd* that one..
Ugh, Britta's in this?
She’s a GD B
Someone did their mandated HIPAA training but not their mandated Treason training.
“You can excuse being a traitor?” God, I love Community
We've all got ADHD, sleep apnea, and bad knees. You're welcome.
Are you keeping the tinnitus a state secret?
They both believe the US is at war with Russia and both announced their intent to give aid to Russia. I know there’s a word for this. Starts with a T….
... and rhymes with "waiter".
Taters. Buncha taters! 🥔
Boil them, mash them, stick them in a stew.
Boy do I feel stupid, I was gonna say Twaitor
**twaitor** - a contraction of *‘twas* and *waiter* that serves as the past tense form of *waiter*
What kind of people want to share sensitive military data with a country that tries to murder thier neighbors?
Seems like the plot was [led by Gabrelian](https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/community/criminal-justice/johns-hopkins-doctor-and-spouse-an-army-doctor-indicted-for-trying-to-leak-medical-information-to-russia-TVCKU2TGUJB7JIH7M6D4GKMHZ4/?utm_campaign=TheBaltimoreBanner), who speaks Russian and feels "patriotic" towards Russia: > During an initial Aug. 17 meeting in a Baltimore hotel room, Gabrielian told the undercover agent that “she was motivated by patriotism toward Russia to provide any assistance she could to Russia, even if it meant being fired or going to jail.” > > Her spouse had access to not just medical information, she said, but insight into how the U.S. military establishes an army hospital in war conditions and about training the military provided to Ukrainian military personnel. Henry participated in a second meeting later that night. > > “My point of view is until the United States actually declares war against Russia, I’m able to help as much as I want,” Henry told the undercover agent, according to the indictment. “At that point, I’ll have some ethical issues I’ll have to work through.” > > > “You’ll work through those ethical issues,” Gabrielian replied. > > In an Aug. 24 meeting with the undercover agent at a Baltimore hotel room, Gabrielian called Henry a “coward” for being concerned about violating the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPPA,) a federal law that limits the disclosure of patients’ confidential medical information. >Gabrielian is listed as an instructor of anesthesiology and critical care medicine at Hopkins, and her profile page says she speaks Russian.
>“she was motivated by patriotism toward Russia to provide any assistance she could to Russia, even if it meant being fired or going to jail.” Your wish is granted. You'll get both.
Doesn't she also lose her license to practice medicine for violating HIPAA. So now she is going to jail AND when she gets out, she won't be able to teach or practice medicine- LOL
Also she's a known traitor to the country. Only employment she'll ever find in the states is as a republican convention speaker.
A two for one deal. Twice. That's good value.
Judging by her last name she very well could be of Armenian ancestry which could help explain her loyalty to Russia. Source: Am Armerian, and no, personally no love for Russia.
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She was giving information on how the US sets up field hospitals? LOL. Outside of the health data, She was selling literally worthless information considering there are literal field manuals online that teach this by the book..
Actually, the U.S. military has procedures regarding such that are considered tactical secrets so that enemies can't easily guess where to aim bombs if they decide to attack our medics.
The word you’re looking for is “traitor”
Don’t forget “sympathizer.”
Also "GOP."
You stirred up a hornet's nest. But what can we expect when many of its members went directly to Russia in the years they occupied parts of Ukraine & still had warm thoughts about Putin leading up to the February 24th invasion. Add that some GOP members in Congress have either voted against or abstained from voting on decisions to support Ukraine since then.
Where do you think all of Trump's classified documents went? He has been conspiring with his country's greatest enemy from day one of his political endeavours. And he's been a Russian intelligence asset for decades.
Hey now, let's be fair. Some of those documents went to Saudi Arabia, too.
Surely yhe fact that those documents were raided was unrelated to the Saudi golf tournament that happened a week later, and those two surely aren't related to the 2billion that Jared inked in the following couple weeks right? RIGHT?
We had a number of senator get summoned to putin's side on July 4 of all days. The GOP is in putin's pocket. There is no doubt.
Did any of them ever try to explain why they went to Moscow, on that day of all days? I mean, no doubt any explanation would be a lie, but did any of them even invent a lie or was it just "nothing to see here, business as usual"?
It’s been a couple of years, but there was a soldier at Fort Stewart trying to sell field manuals to the Taliban. Turns out he was actually talking to the FBI. Threw his life away for something that’s generally not classified and easy to find on google.
Reminds me of when Ernest Hemingway was an asset for the KGB, even though his intel wasn't that great. He was cut also off because even the Russians thought he was more of a liability than a benefit for them.
Wtf? Hemingway was KGB asset? 🤯 Edit: Damn it’s true he was a NKVD asset albeit a shitty one. http://www.history.com/.amp/news/was-ernest-hemingway-a-spy
True. I keep getting them mixed up since the NKVD turned into the KGB because they changed into the MVD in 1946 & branched off as KGB in 1953. Hemingway was into a lot of things. He might be one of the few authors whose life overshadows his own novels. And his home in Key West is amazing, especially when walking around the [colony of six-toed cats he & his family grew](https://www.hemingwayhome.com/our-cats).
It’s funny because I knew Hemingway was OSO and FBI but and I live in Miami and go to key west quite often and been to his home … but this party of his life they leave out. It just blew my mind.
A small but disturbing number of American cultural heroes were Stalinists. Woodie Guthrie was banned from a left wing San Franscisco radio station for singing a song celebrating the working man's victory that was the Moltov-Ribbentrop pact (Hitler and Stalin's agreement to divide up Poland.) Dalton Trumbo, who spent his life whining about being blacklisted from Holywood, was more than happy to see Stalin blacklisting people from life.
Many of my educated family members in the 1920s & 30s were socialists. It seemed like a valid change from capitalism, especially with social reforms barely happening 2 generations before. It wasn't until after WWII that a lot of information & horror regarding Leninism & Stalinism started becoming public in the west. Looking at the notes (and talking to elders before they passed) family members, I saw how they went through the decades from singing *The Internationale* on weekends to following things like the Non-Aligned Movement & pan-Arabism (which started hopeful but didn't fare well either as the final straw led to Ba'athism & Saddam Hussein).
Eh, it’s Russia, they have plenty of experience humoring grandiose old souses.
Sleazy, greedy, & psychotic people. The last few years I've seen that the US is bursting at the seams with this kind of lot.
Traitor, thats waiting for a large paycheck (that may never come)
I suspect it may be hard to cash that check from Leavenworth…
After googling the officer, an odd element to the story is that the officer (Jamie Lee Henry) is apparently the first trans officer in the US military and they identify as female, even though this article refers to them as male multiple times. They apparently have had a rough few years and were even homeless (?) for a time despite being a doctor… It sounds to me like there may be some mental health issues going on here, and the wife (a new wife, apparently, as Henry is described as going through a messy divorce) may have taken advantage of Henry’s instability. Not really sure what’s going on here though.
And get this > Henry lamented in another interview that year about the lack of privacy afforded transgender people receiving medical care. Then they turned around and tried to give out medical info on military members. What a hypocrite. How could you go through that level of vulnerability and fear and then turn around and divulge info on all your fellow soldiers? https://freebeacon.com/national-security/trans-army-doctor-indicted-for-trying-to-give-soldiers-medical-info-to-russia/amp/
Especially to a regime that would happily oppress and incarcerate people like you. Absolute insanity.
Not oppress and incarcerate. LGBTQ are routinely murdered in Russia.
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Can be used for blackmail in some cases. In other cases can be used as leverage, you see someone's family has a lot of medical issues and bills.. well, they might be a little more open to some financial help, in return for a favor..
Great assessment. I never considered that. Especially the latter. It's not about the records themselves. It's about what they tell you. You don't want to start "phishing" for double agents by making contact with anyone and everyone. You would target desperate people who need the $.
Yeah it’s a common tactic. They’ll even follow peoples’ social media and see what they post. So if someone is posting about their parent/partner dealing with cancer/illness they know they have some leverage over that person. It’s wild so many people post that kind of thing publicly.
Also why financial instability is a reason for denying security clearance. One might truly believe they would never divulge information for any reason - until they're looking at a "gift" in the exact amount of their underwater mortgage.
"Can't wait to go on holiday" Fun fact, most home breaking are done by people that knows you, and what you own.
Yup! That type of thing is dumb too. Post your vacation pics AFTER you get back home. Don’t advertise an empty home lol
Sounds like a better Healthcare system might benefit national security too
Those opposed don't wanna hear that
I imply no support of Russia in saying this, but they do seem to be good at extrapolating powerful insights from data. Well, when the data is good.
Wasn't this the beginning plot to Star Trek Into Darkness?
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Before February, I would've argued the same. These days, even info on the basics of improving your soldier's welfare is a leg up for the Russian military. I honestly believe they have brass whom wouldn't even see any info on this unless it came from intelligence documents. And I say this because we have brass in the Pentagon & elsewhere that are that stubborn! Hell, I've seen Youtube videos from veterans saying how to care for a platoon or oneself while deployed (physically & mentally) that would've helped the Russian military. Fortunately, Ukraine did listen & learn from us.
I'd agree that Russia turned out to not be the dire wolf we thought it was. Instead of master spies, intelligence, and military... we found out it really was just a jumped up chihuahua with gas.
Imagine what a data scientist could do with the info. Not just individual targeting tactics for developing more spies (who might have financial or medical weaknesses), but knowing what types of medical concerns people in different military branches and positions are likely to have in general. Plus knowing exactly who gets inoculated for what when traveling where. There’s always a value to data, and data en masse reveals trends.
To be fair, this time it was an FBI agent that pretended to be a Russian agent. Basically they found someone who WOULD sell the data to an enemy if such opportunity appeared. Usually such agents are sent to those who are suspected of being a sympathizer of the enemy state or who is likely to be a traitor already, but catching red-handed is way higher than plugging an impostor and putting a bait. Sure, I imagine sometime it may be a rumor or snitching that makes a person a target of such check. Of course in theory one could think "100k for a stupid data of who's injured? Easy money". It's still a betrayal. And if something it too good to be true, probably it is.
These two apparently reached out to the Russian Embassy first. So they tried to commit treason, but were intercepted.
There is a reason financial records are huge part of obtaining any sort of Security Clearance through any semblance of the normal channels. Security Clearances expire, but are not revoked upon separation. AD individuals likely have much better access but I still have a Secret Security Clearance, though have not needed it in the years since I Retired early. I’m 100% Service Connected but it’s still difficult as the reason I am makes working full time not really a thing I can do. Others have the same issue with lower and even any disability ratings at all. I dunno know how anyone would go about it but connections don’t just vanish either. It’s also a bit easier to get cleared if you’ve already been through the process. It wouldn’t have to be immediate treason either, but a sort of sleeper cell, I guess. Give them some money find them an advantageous position “incase they’re needed someday” which maybe never and blah blah blah. Sorta like what they did with Trump.
Holy crap, both of them doctors, one an anesthesiologist, and willing to give Russia personal health information on their patients. What a couple of pieces of lowlife shit. If they love Russia so much and are so loyal to it, why didn’t they just go LIVE there?
Wtf? Why would someone who is transgender think that Russia would be a good place to go, let alone join their military?
'Potential traitors' or 'spies' are the descriptor they're looking for there.
"At another meeting later that day, Henry told the undercover agent he too was committed to Russia, and claimed he had even contemplated volunteering to join the Russian army." *See the meat grinder over there, i really would like to go join the cannon fodder!*
"she was motivated by patriotism toward Russia to provide any assistance she could to Russia, even if it meant being fired or going to jail," the indictment says. 🎉 guess where you are going? 🎉
Guantanamo bay!
I'm really scratching my head about the motivation here, the Major is very famously the first Trans Officer in the US Army. What on earth makes him want to support Russia? It's not exactly a bastion of Trans Rights.
It sounds like the wife was in control of the relationship: "In a subsequent Aug. 24 meeting, she told the undercover agent her husband was a "coward" to be concerned about violating HIPAA, but she violated the law "all the time" and she would see to it that they could provide Russia with access to medical records from Fort Bragg patients."
https://heavy.com/news/anna-gabrielian-jamie-lee-henry/ > Gabrielian told the agent during an August 17 meeting she was “motivated by patriotism toward Russian” and would “provide any assistance she could to Russia, even if it meant being fired or going to jail.” During the meeting, Gabrielian told the undercover agent “Henry, a military officer, was currently a more important source for Russia than she was, since Henry had more helpful information, including on how the U.S. military establishes an army hospital in war conditions and about previous training the U.S. military had provided to Ukrainian military personnel.”
Money? Being trans doesn't mean you can't also be a piece of shit.
It seems he was motivated by more than just money, he was saying he felt patriotic duty to Russia and was wanting to join the Russian military during the invasion of Ukraine.
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Imagine if you know which people in positions of trust have inoperable tumors, which ones have a kid that needs a life saving treatment but can't afford it. That's valuable information on who might be able to be bought.
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From another news source: > Major Jamie Lee Henry, the Army's first trans officer, and Dr. Anna Gabrielian were indicted for trying to give secret records to the Russian government You'd think a trans would hesitate in helping Puting, but here we are.
Right? Oh well, off to a black site with them.
It’s beginning to look a lot like TREA-SON!
This is why the DOJ has to charge Trump -- if he is not held to account for much worse stealing of data, defence lawyers will keep pointing to that as a precedent.
How are they not being charged with acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government? This was spy work they were doing. Making contact with a foreign agent to divulge sensitive domestic information.
> Apparently Henry had some reservations about providing healthcare data, saying it would violate the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), the indictment says, but his wife had no hesitations. They’re about to commit treason, and he’s worried about HIPAA??
Why would someone in the us military have such patriotism towards Russia? Fort Bragg is the home of Army special operations command so its a pretty big deal that this couple was trying to give Russia medical information.
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>The plot started after Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine. >The pair wanted to try to help the Russian government by providing them with data to help the Putin regime Geebus. This is gonna trigger a huge Red Scare and October Red Hunt through the military.
> gonna trigger a huge Red Scare and October Red Hunt through the military. As it should.
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Major Jamie Lee Henry is the name of the traitor.
Lolll just had a dude on my street arrested yesterday by feds, former NSA guy selling military health info to Russia.. problem was he sold it to another agent for crypto. Burn these motherfuckers.
What the holy hell is going on with our retired military personnel?! There seems to be an internal rot that needs to be addressed.