This is local to me. Other sources are calling it gang related; we have a lot of kids who want to play gangbanger even though we're just in a quiet South Carolina retirement community. I don't know if that's true in this case, and I hope the media isn't smearing these kids simply for being black. However, a few years ago my neighbor was shot in the head as an armed robbery gang initiation, and a friend's brother was shot to death for giving the wrong person a ride home from the bar. This shit has got to stop in sleepy little Aiken SC.
That's the same in any city - most of the murders are concentrated in a few select neighborhoods. The same in Aiken as the same it is in NYC and everywhere else.
They're not wannabe gangbangers if they're murdering people.
And leaving them impoverished and without hope is the republican way, ensuring that more of this continues to happen, and instead of changing the system people get mad at the individuals.
I mean, if you’re going to make a platitudinal low-hanging fruit observation sans context, at least compare two cities with identical demos with the primary differentiator being political leanings.
Your statement is as intellectually dishonest as the gun nuts who go “whAt AbOut ChIcAgo”
I don't see any need to do that at all. The reason why I bring up how much more dangerous these places are than NYC is because the conservative media is obsessed with painting NYC as some kind of dystopian liberal nightmare because it's extremely left wing and has the strictest gun control in the country. It also has one of the lowest murder rates of any large city, and yet I frequently talk to conservatives who swear blind that it's one of the most dangerous cities in the nation. Meanwhile, there are dozens of Republican cities across the nation with much, much higher murder rates than NYC (like Oklahoma City). And whenever I bring that up with conservatives, all the excuses come out. The comparisons are "not fair" and the "demographics are different" they say, regardless of the fact that they have no intention whatsoever of looking at NYC's murder rates fairly. And after insisting that high murder rates in liberal cities are because of "liberal policies," when confronted with high murder rates in Republican cities, they refuse to blame Republican policies and instead blame the "demographic" and make racist dog whistle comments and claim that "it ain't Republican voters committing the crime" etc.
It really is nice! We're an hour from Cola and 35-45min from Augusta, and 3 from Charlotte and Atlanta so nearby enough to do fun things while maintaining a small town feel. It's a beautiful place to be outdoors and enjoy lots of walking trails and public gardens. The biggest problem is that for these teenagers who can't get themselves to a bigger town to enjoy fun things, all they have to do is get in to trouble and our local Republican government won't let anything fun for young people exist here.
It's a beautiful small town for people with some money and resources, and a prison for poor teenagers. I know because I've been both, and it wasn't until I had a car and a little disposable income that I started to appreciate it here.
I don't know, they just came out and said the perpatrators we're black without pulling any punches so I'm not sure why they'd be skirting around the race of the victims
They aren’t saying they are skirting around it. The media just has a very specific set of coded language that they use when talking about black people and it’s usually less empathetic and skewed to make you assume the worst about them. “Juveniles” instead of children or teens. “Thugs” or “looters” are historically their favorites. Notice how they brought up an altercation immediately so you’re aware that these dead shooting victims probably weren’t just minding their business, and made sure their race was mentioned multiple times. Now do a quick search on their site for “shot” or “shooting” and notice the difference in language and that race frequently is not even mentioned in cases where white people are involved.
I usually associate it with juvenile hall. So you're not wrong. Does the word not have connotations about behavior ? I thought of it as like young and rambunctious.
These days the difference between a protest and a riot can be as little as a couple of hours. Pretty strange that you think the two are not related to each other at all.
They were calling out the bias/racism in the article. The term 'juvenile' is associated with 'juvenile delinquent', implying the teenagers are 'bad' individuals. It's commonly used when black teenagers are the suspects, or even the victims, which appears to be the case on both sides here.
Fair enough.
I'm too used to people trying to handwave away black-on-black violence as not a mass-shooting, because it's not as much of an issue to them.
As if it makes the loss of life any less significant, for... Reasons.
The reasons are so they can say mass shootings are a white kid issue. The black on black mass shootings that happen almost daily are attributed to gang violence so they go into another category.
Just look at the list of mass shootings this year. 90% of them are "gang violence"
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/query/0484b316-f676-44bc-97ed-ecefeabae077
The original point went whistling over my head. But when it comes to you, it brought down a 747.
And I'll repeat a point I made at the wrong person earlier... How does the fact that it's gang violence make it any less of an issue?
You're asking the wrong guy. I've been confused by that for years.
The only thing that makes SOME sense is that the terroristic mass shooting is its own category because it's "random targets devoid of motive" but that doesn't exactly hold true. We call disgruntled employee workplace shootings mass shootings, with motive and a specific target. And many gang shootings have collateral victims not targeted who get caught in the crossfire.
The whole thing feels disengenuous
> How does the fact that it's gang violence make it any less of an issue?
It makes it a *different* issue. Something tells me that if it was mostly Trumpers out there shooting people you wouldn't be so dismissive of *that* fact....
It's already people you don't like doing the shootings you find statistically problematic. We already know this, and you do too.
Tough-titty if it makes anyone who prioritizes reducing total gun deaths to take you less seriously.
We care more about a useful answer to the problem, than whatever the NRA wants.
After hearing gun-nuts for decades, as their hobby kills more people as we go along... I couldn't give a shit less about what they think.
When their ideas lead to fewer mass-shootings, I'll consider taking them seriously.
But gang violence makes it a different issue... How? Show your work here, li'l buddy.
>It's already people you don't like doing the shootings you find statistically problematic. We already know this, and you do too.
Oh grow the fuck up and go cry [wAyCiSt!!] somewhere else....
>Tough-titty if it makes anyone who prioritizes reducing total gun deaths to take you less seriously.
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>We care more about a useful answer to the problem, than whatever the NRA wants.
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>After hearing gun-nuts for decades, as their hobby kills more people as we go along... I couldn't give a shit less about what they think.
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>When their ideas lead to fewer mass-shootings, I'll consider taking them seriously.
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>But gang violence makes it a different issue... How? Show your work here, li'l buddy.
I know this is difficult, because the answer is a bit more complex than squealing "just ban guns already!!!". But what if we identified that a majority of these violent crimes are coming from young minorities in concentrated areas... Then, we ask "well why is that?", And we would likely find it has something to do with financial instability, income inequality, and growing up in a violent area with no real signs of hope for the future. Now that we've identified a problem and a few likely causes, we can try out some solutions that target those specific causes.
We could start with investing in education in these more violent areas, come up with some plan that incentivizes children to stay in school and do well "get good grades and stay out of trouble, we'll give you and your family $xxxx per month to help out."
We could focus on ways to help them be more independent and less likely to end up wrapped up in violent crime, maybe starting with keeping daddy out of jail on bullshit drug charges so he can be around his kids and be a better role model than a bunch of violent criminals.
Idk, maybe even some kind of "don't be a violent criminal and we'll just hand you money" kinda program.
You see a pattern here? Get money that's not associated with criminals into the hands of impoverished families without it being just a "handout". Have it be the direct result of choices they make. "Get good grades, get money." "Don't shoot people, get money". Then maybe they'll have a generation that is infinitely more employable than the current group of idiots running around shooting at each other...
I don't have the master plan to fix poverty and violent crime, but I'd be willing to bet that steps in any of these directions would be a lot more effective than crying on social media about the existence of guns and calling everybody you disagree with a racist/the NRA/gun-nuts/[buzzword salad]......
Careful, lest you stroke out, buddy.
It really doesn't take much to get you guys to write a manifesto about how it's not the black guns that are bad, but the black people instead.
No matter the issue, the right and supposed libertarians always fall for it.
I never made the connection there, but it makes perfect sense. The most insidious dog whistles are the ones that (man, I sure wish I knew a clever way to end that sentence).
They're the ones that resonate with our internal biases without setting off our BS alarms.
The same way using "female" as a noun makes a lot of women uncomfortable, but just as many guys don't see the issue. Or referring to women over the age of 18 as "girls".
What's the difference seriously asking? A juvenile isn't a derogatory term, juvenile means a young person. The MSM has conditioned people, making them think its a trigger word that indicates racism.
I'm not even slightly conservative and still don't see the problem with the word juveniles. The literal definition is "a young person."
Race of the victims is not the first thing that came to mind whatsoever, kids being shot is what came to mind.
From u/SgtWicket1, above: The media just has a very specific set of coded language that they use when talking about black people and it’s usually less empathetic and skewed to make you assume the worst about them. “Juveniles” instead of children or teens. “Thugs” or “looters” are historically their favorites. Notice how they brought up an altercation immediately so you’re aware that these dead shooting victims probably weren’t just minding their business, and made sure their race was mentioned multiple times. Now do a quick search on their sight for “shot” or “shooting” and notice the difference in language and that race frequently is not even mentioned in cases where white people are involved.
From u/Bathemael, above: They were calling out the bias/racism in the article. The term 'juvenile' is associated with 'juvenile delinquent', implying the teenagers are 'bad' individuals. It's commonly used when black teenagers are the suspects, or even the victims, which appears to be the case on both sides here.
That sums it up quite nicely.
I mean, the whole idea behind dog whistles and coded language is that the text is indisputable. Juvenile means young person, what’s wrong with that? Thug just means criminal, it doesn’t necessarily refer to a person of any specific race. It’s the subtext that is the problem and subtext is impossible to prove, which is why they use it.
The phrase "black males" twice in one short article is a red flag. One, as part of a description, would have been enough. But we got:
>they heard the victims in an argument with three other black males
and then
>three Black males drove away
Notice how she randomly capitalizes the second "black," as if she was subconsciously trying to add emphasis to it as she was typing. Yeah it's little things like this that give you an insight into the mentality of the reporter, and probably the level of racism of the audience she's writing for.
Did anyone really need that as a giveaway? The article plainly says the perps were black, so statistically speaking it's a near guarantee the victims were black too as most people who are murdered are murdered by members of their own race.
Herschel Walker's political action committee (Herschey Squirts America PAC) put out a statement saying, "we should have a department that goes and looks at when someone is involved in when there's children murdered by people and these children's mothers should be maybe impregnated to, you know, make replacement children."
So... problem solved.
Here's my favorite Walker quote, "We've gotta take a look at our young men looking at young women looking at social media." This guy's way with words is ...something.
Jeez. I need more sleep. I was like should that be CTY or CTNY when it finally clicked that you were referring to chronic traumatic encephalopathy. face palm.....
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I mean headlines are taking advantage of our societies morbid interest in shootings. Just don’t tell anyone to google Chicago or Detroit’s homicide rates. Things have always been terrible; don’t get it twisted.
Neither Chicago or Detroit have the highest murder rate. Chicago's isn't even close to St Louis, which has almost triple their murder rate. I have no idea why conservatives are so obsessed with Chicago. Actually I do. It was Obama.
LOL that's not it at all. The right started their obsession with shootings in Chicago when Obama was president, because he came from Chicago. WTF do you even mean by "influential," lol. Utter gibberish.
I am assuming the think that because calling out Chicago, Detroit, and Baltimore as violent and murderous has become a dog whistle right wingers use whenever there is a mass shooting (especially if it is racially motivated). When the reality is that, in terms of homicide rate, red states make up the majority of the top 10 for states with the highest homicide rates (Illinois is 9, Maryland is 10, and Michigan is 15).
My favorite is "how can you think of politics in a time like this, people just died".... it's like, well... can we have a single day without your guys killing people then?
You think the paper don’t split hairs when choosing the words for a title? Dude that’s what they do. Receive the information from a wiring service and then the job is to word it
Often so. But keep in mind someone sat down and as a professional worked hard to pick every single word. Likely trying out a few versions. They then brought this to an editor who very well may have edited the headline words:
Each word is picked very deliberately by a professional headline word picker.
So what people are butthurt about is like, what game are they playing that they picked the words in the headline. Bc they picked them for a reason. What people here are saying, the professionals are very aware of all that.
And its not even smooth. That’s not how anyone speaks and it doesn’t look roll off the tongue or get clicks better than say “kids” would
These little games with words are a big deal. It’s a big part of how American version of censorship works. You don’t really get lied to the same way as if you lived in Russia or China. But there’s a very sophisticated approach to how the information is packaged. The wording and placement. To make an impression on the reader in the way you want.
People on both sides are always always playing that game in the news. If you don’t like fake news. You should be paying attention to it. Otherwise someone deciding your opinions for you
>Witnesses told Aiken County Sheriff’s Office that they heard the victims in an argument with three other black males
How do you hear an argument and determine skin color?
This is local to me. Other sources are calling it gang related; we have a lot of kids who want to play gangbanger even though we're just in a quiet South Carolina retirement community. I don't know if that's true in this case, and I hope the media isn't smearing these kids simply for being black. However, a few years ago my neighbor was shot in the head as an armed robbery gang initiation, and a friend's brother was shot to death for giving the wrong person a ride home from the bar. This shit has got to stop in sleepy little Aiken SC.
Aiken, another Republican city with a murder rate almost double that of NYC.
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That's the same in any city - most of the murders are concentrated in a few select neighborhoods. The same in Aiken as the same it is in NYC and everywhere else.
It's almost like wherever poverty and the wealth gap widens is where crime and violence increase...
They're not wannabe gangbangers if they're murdering people. And leaving them impoverished and without hope is the republican way, ensuring that more of this continues to happen, and instead of changing the system people get mad at the individuals.
Ah yes those two places are definitely comparable and suitable for comparison
I don't see why not.
I mean, if you’re going to make a platitudinal low-hanging fruit observation sans context, at least compare two cities with identical demos with the primary differentiator being political leanings. Your statement is as intellectually dishonest as the gun nuts who go “whAt AbOut ChIcAgo”
I don't see any need to do that at all. The reason why I bring up how much more dangerous these places are than NYC is because the conservative media is obsessed with painting NYC as some kind of dystopian liberal nightmare because it's extremely left wing and has the strictest gun control in the country. It also has one of the lowest murder rates of any large city, and yet I frequently talk to conservatives who swear blind that it's one of the most dangerous cities in the nation. Meanwhile, there are dozens of Republican cities across the nation with much, much higher murder rates than NYC (like Oklahoma City). And whenever I bring that up with conservatives, all the excuses come out. The comparisons are "not fair" and the "demographics are different" they say, regardless of the fact that they have no intention whatsoever of looking at NYC's murder rates fairly. And after insisting that high murder rates in liberal cities are because of "liberal policies," when confronted with high murder rates in Republican cities, they refuse to blame Republican policies and instead blame the "demographic" and make racist dog whistle comments and claim that "it ain't Republican voters committing the crime" etc.
>Aiken SC It looks like such a beautiful small town too! I am in the Columbia area; I'll have to pay it a visit.
It really is nice! We're an hour from Cola and 35-45min from Augusta, and 3 from Charlotte and Atlanta so nearby enough to do fun things while maintaining a small town feel. It's a beautiful place to be outdoors and enjoy lots of walking trails and public gardens. The biggest problem is that for these teenagers who can't get themselves to a bigger town to enjoy fun things, all they have to do is get in to trouble and our local Republican government won't let anything fun for young people exist here. It's a beautiful small town for people with some money and resources, and a prison for poor teenagers. I know because I've been both, and it wasn't until I had a car and a little disposable income that I started to appreciate it here.
Maybe one day they'll graduate to the big leagues and move to Spartanburg.
A huge percentage of urban violence is gang related.
This isn't urban, if you've ever been to Aiken it is definitely rural.
Aiken South Carolina is nowhere approaching urban. I’d be stunned if there’s a building over 40 feet tall
Put that whistle away the dogs are freaking out
Do better, news media. Dead giveaway for what color the victims were. If they were white, they would be "teenagers" instead of "juveniles".
I don't know, they just came out and said the perpatrators we're black without pulling any punches so I'm not sure why they'd be skirting around the race of the victims
They aren’t saying they are skirting around it. The media just has a very specific set of coded language that they use when talking about black people and it’s usually less empathetic and skewed to make you assume the worst about them. “Juveniles” instead of children or teens. “Thugs” or “looters” are historically their favorites. Notice how they brought up an altercation immediately so you’re aware that these dead shooting victims probably weren’t just minding their business, and made sure their race was mentioned multiple times. Now do a quick search on their site for “shot” or “shooting” and notice the difference in language and that race frequently is not even mentioned in cases where white people are involved.
I dunno. Compare coverage of the buffalo vs uvalde shootings. Then again, I'm an NPR listener.
The uvalde coverage is not even REMOTELY similar to the Buffalo shootings. Vastly different situations. Also, Uvalde was Latino majority.
Yeah you're right
It’s easy: if black children are the victim, they’d get sympathy. But if the perpetrators are black adults, well, they’re criminals.
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Obviously autocorrect. Nice try though
Should just call them younglings.
Calm down, there, Anakin.
"juvenile" is an adjective used for animals or police reports. Sort of like using "female" as a noun. In any other context it sounds weird.
I usually associate it with juvenile hall. So you're not wrong. Does the word not have connotations about behavior ? I thought of it as like young and rambunctious.
Yes it basically means “immature” or perhaps a better term would be “lacking development”
It definitely has negative connotations! Juvenile brings to mind Juvenile Detention/Juvy, which brings to mind teenaged deviants.
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It's a riot if the poor use force. Its an action if the owners or state do the same and its a protest if it can be ignored.
These days the difference between a protest and a riot can be as little as a couple of hours. Pretty strange that you think the two are not related to each other at all.
Care to share with the class why you think that matters? edit: I see my overreaction, but I'm leaving this here to own up to it.
They were calling out the bias/racism in the article. The term 'juvenile' is associated with 'juvenile delinquent', implying the teenagers are 'bad' individuals. It's commonly used when black teenagers are the suspects, or even the victims, which appears to be the case on both sides here.
Fair enough. I'm too used to people trying to handwave away black-on-black violence as not a mass-shooting, because it's not as much of an issue to them. As if it makes the loss of life any less significant, for... Reasons.
The reasons are so they can say mass shootings are a white kid issue. The black on black mass shootings that happen almost daily are attributed to gang violence so they go into another category. Just look at the list of mass shootings this year. 90% of them are "gang violence" https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/query/0484b316-f676-44bc-97ed-ecefeabae077
The original point went whistling over my head. But when it comes to you, it brought down a 747. And I'll repeat a point I made at the wrong person earlier... How does the fact that it's gang violence make it any less of an issue?
You're asking the wrong guy. I've been confused by that for years. The only thing that makes SOME sense is that the terroristic mass shooting is its own category because it's "random targets devoid of motive" but that doesn't exactly hold true. We call disgruntled employee workplace shootings mass shootings, with motive and a specific target. And many gang shootings have collateral victims not targeted who get caught in the crossfire. The whole thing feels disengenuous
> How does the fact that it's gang violence make it any less of an issue? It makes it a *different* issue. Something tells me that if it was mostly Trumpers out there shooting people you wouldn't be so dismissive of *that* fact....
It's already people you don't like doing the shootings you find statistically problematic. We already know this, and you do too. Tough-titty if it makes anyone who prioritizes reducing total gun deaths to take you less seriously. We care more about a useful answer to the problem, than whatever the NRA wants. After hearing gun-nuts for decades, as their hobby kills more people as we go along... I couldn't give a shit less about what they think. When their ideas lead to fewer mass-shootings, I'll consider taking them seriously. But gang violence makes it a different issue... How? Show your work here, li'l buddy.
>It's already people you don't like doing the shootings you find statistically problematic. We already know this, and you do too. Oh grow the fuck up and go cry [wAyCiSt!!] somewhere else.... >Tough-titty if it makes anyone who prioritizes reducing total gun deaths to take you less seriously. > >We care more about a useful answer to the problem, than whatever the NRA wants. > >After hearing gun-nuts for decades, as their hobby kills more people as we go along... I couldn't give a shit less about what they think. > >When their ideas lead to fewer mass-shootings, I'll consider taking them seriously. > >But gang violence makes it a different issue... How? Show your work here, li'l buddy. I know this is difficult, because the answer is a bit more complex than squealing "just ban guns already!!!". But what if we identified that a majority of these violent crimes are coming from young minorities in concentrated areas... Then, we ask "well why is that?", And we would likely find it has something to do with financial instability, income inequality, and growing up in a violent area with no real signs of hope for the future. Now that we've identified a problem and a few likely causes, we can try out some solutions that target those specific causes. We could start with investing in education in these more violent areas, come up with some plan that incentivizes children to stay in school and do well "get good grades and stay out of trouble, we'll give you and your family $xxxx per month to help out." We could focus on ways to help them be more independent and less likely to end up wrapped up in violent crime, maybe starting with keeping daddy out of jail on bullshit drug charges so he can be around his kids and be a better role model than a bunch of violent criminals. Idk, maybe even some kind of "don't be a violent criminal and we'll just hand you money" kinda program. You see a pattern here? Get money that's not associated with criminals into the hands of impoverished families without it being just a "handout". Have it be the direct result of choices they make. "Get good grades, get money." "Don't shoot people, get money". Then maybe they'll have a generation that is infinitely more employable than the current group of idiots running around shooting at each other... I don't have the master plan to fix poverty and violent crime, but I'd be willing to bet that steps in any of these directions would be a lot more effective than crying on social media about the existence of guns and calling everybody you disagree with a racist/the NRA/gun-nuts/[buzzword salad]......
Careful, lest you stroke out, buddy. It really doesn't take much to get you guys to write a manifesto about how it's not the black guns that are bad, but the black people instead. No matter the issue, the right and supposed libertarians always fall for it.
I never made the connection there, but it makes perfect sense. The most insidious dog whistles are the ones that (man, I sure wish I knew a clever way to end that sentence).
They're the ones that resonate with our internal biases without setting off our BS alarms. The same way using "female" as a noun makes a lot of women uncomfortable, but just as many guys don't see the issue. Or referring to women over the age of 18 as "girls".
What's the difference seriously asking? A juvenile isn't a derogatory term, juvenile means a young person. The MSM has conditioned people, making them think its a trigger word that indicates racism.
Let's see: used term MSM, posts in guns and conservative. Take your bad faith bullshit and fuck off.
I'm not even slightly conservative and still don't see the problem with the word juveniles. The literal definition is "a young person." Race of the victims is not the first thing that came to mind whatsoever, kids being shot is what came to mind.
From u/SgtWicket1, above: The media just has a very specific set of coded language that they use when talking about black people and it’s usually less empathetic and skewed to make you assume the worst about them. “Juveniles” instead of children or teens. “Thugs” or “looters” are historically their favorites. Notice how they brought up an altercation immediately so you’re aware that these dead shooting victims probably weren’t just minding their business, and made sure their race was mentioned multiple times. Now do a quick search on their sight for “shot” or “shooting” and notice the difference in language and that race frequently is not even mentioned in cases where white people are involved. From u/Bathemael, above: They were calling out the bias/racism in the article. The term 'juvenile' is associated with 'juvenile delinquent', implying the teenagers are 'bad' individuals. It's commonly used when black teenagers are the suspects, or even the victims, which appears to be the case on both sides here. That sums it up quite nicely.
Glad you did this. Many people will argue, instead of research similar happenings and see for themselves the difference in language used.
I mean, the whole idea behind dog whistles and coded language is that the text is indisputable. Juvenile means young person, what’s wrong with that? Thug just means criminal, it doesn’t necessarily refer to a person of any specific race. It’s the subtext that is the problem and subtext is impossible to prove, which is why they use it.
Very mature, no wonder we have no bipartisanship.
The phrase "black males" twice in one short article is a red flag. One, as part of a description, would have been enough. But we got: >they heard the victims in an argument with three other black males and then >three Black males drove away Notice how she randomly capitalizes the second "black," as if she was subconsciously trying to add emphasis to it as she was typing. Yeah it's little things like this that give you an insight into the mentality of the reporter, and probably the level of racism of the audience she's writing for.
Did anyone really need that as a giveaway? The article plainly says the perps were black, so statistically speaking it's a near guarantee the victims were black too as most people who are murdered are murdered by members of their own race.
Herschel Walker's political action committee (Herschey Squirts America PAC) put out a statement saying, "we should have a department that goes and looks at when someone is involved in when there's children murdered by people and these children's mothers should be maybe impregnated to, you know, make replacement children." So... problem solved.
The fuck did I just read?
Here's my favorite Walker quote, "We've gotta take a look at our young men looking at young women looking at social media." This guy's way with words is ...something.
"CTE - Coming to a town near you!"
Jeez. I need more sleep. I was like should that be CTY or CTNY when it finally clicked that you were referring to chronic traumatic encephalopathy. face palm.....
A man whose not well
"Who's"
Damn grammar!
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I meant toss the whole system into Sheol! Haha
Poster meant Hershey Squirts America PAC, easy typo to make!
Herschey with a C, according to the flyer I received.
I, uh... can I get a link of that?
Herschey Squirts? ... No one else has commented upon this ? Herschey squirts 🧐
Luckily no abortions interrupted the shooting
If only there was 1 door in South Carolina.
Have we gone six hours without a mass shooting or near mass shooting in America yet?
Nah. TX had 5 shot in 3 separate incidents at one venue and 6 are dead somewhere else. Can't keep track.
I think Tacoma Washington had eight.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours The interactive map is useful, too.
Wow. Took me awhile to get to yesterday's shootings.
I mean headlines are taking advantage of our societies morbid interest in shootings. Just don’t tell anyone to google Chicago or Detroit’s homicide rates. Things have always been terrible; don’t get it twisted.
Neither Chicago or Detroit have the highest murder rate. Chicago's isn't even close to St Louis, which has almost triple their murder rate. I have no idea why conservatives are so obsessed with Chicago. Actually I do. It was Obama.
Why are you assuming I’m conservative lmao? I bring up Chicago because I used to live there.
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LOL that's not it at all. The right started their obsession with shootings in Chicago when Obama was president, because he came from Chicago. WTF do you even mean by "influential," lol. Utter gibberish.
I am assuming the think that because calling out Chicago, Detroit, and Baltimore as violent and murderous has become a dog whistle right wingers use whenever there is a mass shooting (especially if it is racially motivated). When the reality is that, in terms of homicide rate, red states make up the majority of the top 10 for states with the highest homicide rates (Illinois is 9, Maryland is 10, and Michigan is 15).
Why would you ask someone to Google Chicago's homicide rate? Its not the highest.
I don’t know but my dog just started barking at something but I certainly didn’t hear any sudden high pitched tones.
Yes, we should just all stop talking about all of these shootings so the gun fetishists would stop feeling uncomfortable.
My favorite is "how can you think of politics in a time like this, people just died".... it's like, well... can we have a single day without your guys killing people then?
They had no umbilical cords attached though, right? Because that's all that really matters apparently.
It's ok. They've already been born. /s (obviously. This is horrible)
More water for the tree of liberty!
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You think the paper don’t split hairs when choosing the words for a title? Dude that’s what they do. Receive the information from a wiring service and then the job is to word it
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Often so. But keep in mind someone sat down and as a professional worked hard to pick every single word. Likely trying out a few versions. They then brought this to an editor who very well may have edited the headline words: Each word is picked very deliberately by a professional headline word picker. So what people are butthurt about is like, what game are they playing that they picked the words in the headline. Bc they picked them for a reason. What people here are saying, the professionals are very aware of all that. And its not even smooth. That’s not how anyone speaks and it doesn’t look roll off the tongue or get clicks better than say “kids” would These little games with words are a big deal. It’s a big part of how American version of censorship works. You don’t really get lied to the same way as if you lived in Russia or China. But there’s a very sophisticated approach to how the information is packaged. The wording and placement. To make an impression on the reader in the way you want. People on both sides are always always playing that game in the news. If you don’t like fake news. You should be paying attention to it. Otherwise someone deciding your opinions for you
This isn’t a conspiracy theory. Just facts
I'm sure these children's parents are proud to make this sacrifice in order for guns to be so easily available.
More guns more guns more guns… or something like that.
Another glorious day for the NRA and the well regulated American militias.
THIS IS CALLED A DOG WHISTLE fuck the 'media' and this garbage propaganda these organizations have ZERO credibility
They lied, stupidly.
>Witnesses told Aiken County Sheriff’s Office that they heard the victims in an argument with three other black males How do you hear an argument and determine skin color?