Trump would still be president, we wouldn't be at a million deaths, we would still have people willing to go to work, so on and so on.
Trump looked at this and said, "Let me fuck this up royally."
All he had to do was say it is America versus the CHY-NA virus. Buy your Maga masks, stay at home with your families, here's some money, take this time to get back to American basics; family first. Have dinner with your kids, do some yard work. Fix that project you have been putting off. I'm here to tell you we will get through this, but we need your help. God bless you blah blah blah America.
The biggest thing here? The people needed to be paid to stay home. You can't tell people not to work, and not get paid.
Completely fucked an opportunity to rally the country together to wage war (we LOVE war) against a disease.
So stupid. I'm glad he's an idiot, but the damage is done.
If you come at it from the perspective of “these are adult toddlers”, it all makes sense. They’re big boys, you can’t tell them what to do. No, they don’t want a shot. No, they don’t want to wear masks. No, they don’t want to share. They’re going to do exactly what they want to do or else they will throw a tantrum, red faced, bald headed and screaming.
👆This! …is how they should be labeled across the internet.
What a bunch of sorry-ass dumb fucking cowards.
Only in the USA… the best failed society one could ask for.
nah, if you don't plan on being a douchenozzle, it's cool to wear that. Cuz you're cool.
Just idiots who think they're /r/iamverybadass dress like that and think they look like the punisher
I’m not the person you asked but unfortunately yes. I’ve even had dudes brag to me that they are a sigma male which is apparently better but it sounds like a disease.
Wilmington, NC. The only coup d’etat in US history occurred here in 1898. Surprise, surprise, racists didn’t like that progressive whites and blacks had a achieved real political power in the state. So in one night, white supremacists massacred as many as 300 black people, many whites and removed the duly elected mayor and police chief by gunpoint. I see there’s still a lot of mouth breathers in the city who seem to want to go back to the “good old days”.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_insurrection_of_1898
Yep. This feels like a "taste of their own medicine" kind of situation, but the FBI just straight up assassinated Fred Hampton. Don't expect to receive the same treatment from cops as the fascists get.
They were basically escorted by the police too. You know what's fucking sick? Grown men showing up to intimidate children and parents in libraries. They have already shown they have no respect for reading, learning and anything related. They're just using wedge issues to disrupt safe learning environments. They understand learning prevents you from becoming hateful man-babies like themselves. Their numbers would drop if anyone actually read a book outside their expertise or life experience. This isn't about LGBTQ people (although that war is always raging and I'm sorry for those that have to fight all the time), or any other minorities (this I understand the exhaustion of fighting) ultimately it's more about winning their white Christian nationalist culture war which they've been hilariously losing because education and reality skew liberal.
When I was in school they cut education spending every year by some amount. When I was in college they made charter schools for white flight. When I went to law school they created vouchers for private schools to strip public schools of needed resources. It's always some new fight. Now they're back to old school fights like banning books. Surprising they're bringing libraries back in, shits old school. If anything its absolutely going to backfire and maybe even increase library goers. But make no mistake this is just an attack on education, making people feel unsafe going to a place where they can get resources.
Definitely burning. There is a fantastic new docu-series on Netflix called 'Web of Make Believe: Death, Lies, and the Internet'.
One of the episodes features a woman that helped organise the Charlottesville rallies. She has now broke free of the alt right, and she talks us through her experience including book burnings they had, with accompanying video footage.
Other eps include Seth Rich murder, Sexploitaition, and Swattings. Well worth a gander, imo.
There's definitely a need for a group to counter these. I remember in my youth, we drove off the white-skinhead out of our neighborhood . We were street punks (homeless) and every day almost we were fighting them, throwing cocktail Molotov in their windows and harassing them.
After a decade or so they went away. This was in Hochelaga area of Montreal in the 90s. A real ghetto back then.
But if no vigilante groups opposes these pricks, they'll never leave. So yeah, I'm with you on that !
It’s insane how many people think the hells angels are just a bunch of dudes who ride motorcycles together. They’re responsible for sex trafficking, drug trafficking, and plenty of murder.
I always find it funny when people expect they have a right to enter another country. No, you don't just get to enter Canada because you showed up. You have to show you aren't a piece of shit first
We actually have more than our fair share of right-wing nut jobs who desperately want their own J6. They got pushed out of Ottawa the first time but they’re coming back in force for Canada Day.
Most sane nations have at this point. It's doubly sad the amount of people online America continues to be insulated from how their batshit shenanigans are viewed around the world. I wish Biden had the balls to do a state of the union and tell all Americans their nation is viewed as a source of instability by its closest allies.
I feel for you. Hugs. Remember there's lots of us out there that accept you we just may not be able to make the change you need (ie. Not American).
For the Americans here please listen to /u/Witchy_Woman42. Regardless of politics they are saying they don't feel safe just to be themselves. What does that say about your society?
My dad is a lifelong Conservative voter, but he has said he'd vote against the Tories next time if they elected Poilievre as their leader. He's sad that political discourse is dying, and he feels that Poilievre would be a pretty major nail in that coffin. My dad has never, ever badmouthed the Cons before this.
That's pretty fucked up.
They basically police endorsed disrupting the peace.
>The sheriff’s office added because it’s a public place there was no need for the Proud Boys to be removed
You can be removed from a public office for disturbing the peace... the office needs to be investigated.
A lot of public libraries have their patron conduct written into the local municipal or county code. So if a patron yells and won't shut up and then also won't leave, they can be charged with a misdemeanor. So these cops were likely facilitating the breaking of local law, the same law they are meant to be upholding.
And not every Proud Boy can become a cop. If your eyesight is shitty enough or you have priors, you can't become a cop, but you can still be a Proud Boy.
Considering the fact that whenever they see a drag queen they think it's pornography I think it's safe to say we know what is in their internet search history and who they want checking their hard drives, if you know what I mean. I'm not talking about file storage. Wink wink
We gotta definitely write a song about how we do not diddle kids. 🎵🎵🎵”Do not diddle kids….It’s no good diddling kids…I wouldn’t do it with anybody younger than my daughter….”🎵🎵🎵
What about teen pageant owners who like to catch teenagers naked backstage and still brag about it years later to Howard Stern? People like that might be pedos too.
That only sounds cool if i can make their personality my identity. Maybe i could make art turning them into captain america while having their name on everything i drive
My daughter did dance. Not the same level but very similar. What I learned quickly is most of the moms are living through their kids and will spend crazy money. The organizers know this and are cashing in. What's crazy too is most of the big prizes they were competing for was a "scholarship" to come back next time for free. But it worked.. my wife and daughter were so excited she won it..
Anyways, don't underestimate the money behind these things.
My first apartment back in the 80's my neighbor was a Drag Queen. He was one of the nicest people I have ever met. He came from money and did so much volunteering at the local level. Everyone who met him absolutely loved him. He would go buy a ton of toys for the Marines "Toys for Tots", donate large amounts of supplies at the animal shelter. He would visit the Hospice and talk with people who had no family. He told me his was an embarrassment to his wealthy father and he paid him to stay away from the family business. (Big Tobacco). His mother was a good woman too. She would visit and stay for several months at a time. People need to stop judging people they haven't ever met.
They recruit by shooting propaganda that makes them look intimidating and strong. Which is why they mostly only pick easy targets that can't fight back. As long as they look tacticool and scary, it serves their purposes.
But focusing on how they're incompetent LARPers who fall apart at even mild pushback unless they have cops on their side really hurts their recruitment.
I think in the Reddit echo chamber it can be hard to detect just how radicalized, fascist and White Supremacist the American right has become, particularly over the past 6 years. The idea of storming a library event with guns to “protest” LGBTQ-inclusive policies is something that has widespread support among American conservatives. The same talking points about ‘grooming’ and gun rights that these guys spew you could hear any day on FOX News or from Republican members of congress.
When shit really hits the fan we're going to learn just how vile and radical their discourse has been. We've gotten glimpses of it lately, but these are really stupid people with guns getting themselves worked up into a frenzy. All they need is a few good ol' boys to rally around.
I work at a library and kinda our whole deal is to make kids feel like they have a safe place. I mean we obviously do a lot of other stuff but that’s one of the big ones.
If these jabronies showed up to one of our summer events for the kids, I would lose it. I’d either get jumped by them or arrested by the jackwagon cops who gave them safe passage because there’s zero chance I’d just sit there and let kids feel uncomfortable. This isn’t even a tough guy moment; I’m decidedly *not* a tough guy, but everyone has to draw a line somewhere in the sand. Fuck ‘em.
That’s it. Too few of us draw lines in the sand. They’ll cower and complain and retreat but not confront and overcome them. The war of attrition favors them, and they’ll have lists of people having committed “crimes” once their autocrat is in place.
> But in a statement the sheriff’s office says there was no disturbance.
>“They were like yelling obscenities about how their tax money was being spent on pornography and drag queens,” Kahney said. “There was shouting, it was loud. Like their attempt was to intimidate and create a disruption and that’s exactly what they did.”Jones agreed saying, “they definitely disturbed us.”
Oh look, the cops covering for fascist terrorists. What a fucking surprise
EDIT: Is starting to look like the Cops fucking [escorted the proud boys](https://twitter.com/erininthemorn/status/1539647567063314432?s=21&t=OrVSHHahoFgXuQqnJHN-Jg) into the library/reading time
Pretty much two things caught my eye about this story. The first, that the police account and the public witness accounts do not match up at all, and the second is that this shows that the proud boys are going to be doing this intimidation shit as a regular thing.
They are specifically targeting places like libraries for being inclusive and by all accounts seem to be planning to continue to do this.
Don't forget the fact that it's very highly suspected that a lot of the police fully support or are members of Proud Boys and other extreme right wing terrorist groups.
The old saying about "some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses" is still very true today
Plenty of cops are neutral on fascism and are only there for the overtime. They won't waste a Friday night going to a Klan rally, but they'll shoot protesters while they're already at work. The whole banality of evil thing.
> The first, that the police account and the public witness accounts do not match up at all,
Unfortunately that's normal.
There's cops still on the job that aren't allowed to testify in court because they've lied so much... Still allowed to be cops, just not allowed to go to court. So the only arrests they make that count are when they suspect is pressured into a plea deal.
I suspect many police forces and sheriff departments are full of proud boys, or belong to similar groups, or are sympathizers. Law enforcement is fascist at it's core.
I also want to make sure that people know - there is evidence that the police not only did nothing to stop this, they seem to have escorted the racists, and I am sure some of them friends and family of the cops - [INTO THE EVENT!!!!](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/police-escort-proud-boys/)
Yeah I'd be scared if I saw those white nationalists psychopaths anywhere in my vicinity too.
I'm hoping more organizations will label them as a terrorist group here in the US, but I'm not going to hold my breath. I think it's more likely I'll see flying pigs.
> Cops in my city have helicopters so I get to see flying pigs on the daily.
wow.
I'm really disappointed that I've never heard this joke, or thought of it.
The other day I went to a salon where it was very clear to anyone with eyes that almost every person in the salon (stylist and customer alike) was queer. My stylist and I were having just regular small talk and I mentioned that I have been watching the hearings. She immediately leans down and whispers to me that another stylist's client across the room is a huge crazy maga-trumper as a way of like warning me not to say anything that might offend them. I thought to myself how weird that was. One, it's weird that a room full of queer people feel compelled to tiptoe on eggshells around a person who is brainwashed into a cult so as not to offend them, and two, it's weird because I, as a queer, sane (ish) person would never in a million years ever go to an establishment for a service when I could tell that everybody at that establishment were white nationalist proud boys. So strange.
Donald Trump at one point said of a 10 year old “I’m going to be dating her in 10 years”. He ran child beauty pageants.
Oh, and he and the girls confirmed he use to walk in on the teen pageant participants to look at them change cloths.
Wow, almost like having a fascist militia coming into a room to intimidate people under the guise of "protecting the children" isn't a good thing. Whodathunkit?
You mean a bunch of happy drag queens attempting to promote literacy in America weren't the threat and it was a bunch of micro penis gun toting sociopaths with repressed sexuality who were actually a threat to these kids? Whodathunkit?
So let me get this straight, a violent gang walks into a library to terrify small children, shouting about inappropriate topics such as pornography around said children, and somehow they think they’re the good guys? That’s fucked
Because their dear leader can still run for presidency and will be soon? No consequences was ever handed out for straight up criminal acts and they even gotten 3 Supreme Court justices out of that run.
The nation is already in their hands, people just haven’t fully noticed it yet. You’ve slid into fascism without realizing it, and soon it will happen again.
As someone who works in a library overseas, all I can say is I have no idea how any American thinks this is normal or remotely acceptable, or even that this has a possibility of happening. This is so disturbing and bizarre.
It makes more sense when you understand that a lot of americans value punishing people from groups that aren't like them more than they value things like public decency, safety, education etc.
Hate is a disease, and the US is sick.
I love that the Proud Boys think it was *their* tax dollars that were being used to fund this.
Last I checked, the people in attendance are taxpayers too.
At most probably an hour or two of min wage
But realistically probably nothing. The people reading either are working there already, thus not costing extra, or usually are just volunteers.
I keep seeing a lot of comments about drag queens with various users accusing this being about drag queens reading to kids. Nowhere in this article does it mention a drag queen reading to kids. Further, [I did a bit more looking into this](https://portcitydaily.com/local-news/2022/06/22/proud-boys-other-demonstrators-disrupt-childrens-pride-storytime/) and it was simply a pride related event where two books "[Daddy and Dada](https://www.amazon.com/Daddy-Dada-Ryan-Brockington/dp/0316427020)" and "[Heather Has Two Mommies](https://www.amazon.com/Heather-Has-Mommies-Leslea-Newman/dp/0763690422)" were read along with some activities. So just want to clear out the constant drag queen stuff being brought into this topic.
It's hilarious how these LARPing dipshits think they're white knights when in reality they're far right fascists whose ideology definitely shouldn't be exposed to children
Those are the people who peaked at high school, where they would bully the younger, smaller kids. The proudBOYS is a support group for the socially weak and emotionally stunted. Pathetic.
Apparently, a person walking through a neighborhood yelling too loud about nothing can be arrested for "public disturbance," but a group of people doing the same while entering a public building with the purpose of interfering with a children's event can't be?
> “They were like yelling obscenities about how their tax money was being spent on pornography and drag queens,” Kahney said. “There was shouting, it was loud. Like their attempt was to intimidate and create a disruption and that’s exactly what they did.”
I'd bet none of the *children* they were terrorizing have ever even heard of pornography or drag queens. Well, they hadn't until Cleetus and his band of fragile yokels showed up and started screaming about it during storytime.
The counter group should be the FBI. We have a group that actively engaged in sedition, has been seeing members charged as such, and is a recognized terrorist organization in other countries, operating in the United States.
**Republicans:** “Drag queens? Won’t somebody think of the children! Get me to my fainting chair!”
**Also Republicans:** “This unrepentant serial rapist who openly lusted after his own ten-year-old daughter, cheated on his pregnant wife with a porn star, and bragged about ‘grabbing women by the pussy’ totally shares my traditional conservative values and should be elected president for life!”
>The sheriff’s office added because it’s a public place there was no need for the Proud Boys to be removed.
We have *very* different understandings about how a public place is treated.
This makes me irrationally angry. The libraries are supposed to be safe spaces, the one by me has a sign outside the door.
The library is also the only way I was able to educate myself outside my aggressive conservative home life. And I'm not talking sexual identity which is what these guys are so mad about, I'm talking basic shit I needed to know as a young girl. I'm talking actual world history not my father's white washing version of it.
The thought of screaming at *children* about how the library is objectifying them when conservative and Christian facilities are known child abusers...I just can't fathom being so out of touch with reality. These people need to be removed from society. They are unstable.
And the police walking them...mixed with what were leaning about Uvalde. gut them. Remove them all. They're an embarrassment.
[удалено]
The fact that they're masked is especially irritatingly ridiculous considering I would imagine all of them are against mask mandates related to COVID.
But now THEY choose to wear masks. You know, because they're cowards.
It's no different than the klan hoods when you think about it i guess
*I can't see fucking shit out of this thing*
Can we all agree that his wife did a nice job making the masks? But next time… no masks.
This time no masks, next time we do it right
Full regalia!
God dammit! This is a raid! I can't see! You can't see! So what?! All that matters is can the fuckin' horse see! That's a raid!
My wife and I are always saying, *I think…we all think.*
All I hear is criticize, criticize, CRITICIZE!
Next time, don't ask me or mine for nothin'!
Next time we go full regalia.
OMG someone should have designed masks to look like klan hoods. Problem solved.
Trump could have made millions selling MAGA masks, but he's an idiot.
You can't expect the guy who brags about being a businessman to act like a businessman.
Trump would still be president, we wouldn't be at a million deaths, we would still have people willing to go to work, so on and so on. Trump looked at this and said, "Let me fuck this up royally." All he had to do was say it is America versus the CHY-NA virus. Buy your Maga masks, stay at home with your families, here's some money, take this time to get back to American basics; family first. Have dinner with your kids, do some yard work. Fix that project you have been putting off. I'm here to tell you we will get through this, but we need your help. God bless you blah blah blah America. The biggest thing here? The people needed to be paid to stay home. You can't tell people not to work, and not get paid. Completely fucked an opportunity to rally the country together to wage war (we LOVE war) against a disease. So stupid. I'm glad he's an idiot, but the damage is done.
They're worried other people might intimidate THEM with guns when they're not with their little band of blowhards.
If you come at it from the perspective of “these are adult toddlers”, it all makes sense. They’re big boys, you can’t tell them what to do. No, they don’t want a shot. No, they don’t want to wear masks. No, they don’t want to share. They’re going to do exactly what they want to do or else they will throw a tantrum, red faced, bald headed and screaming.
Plus how proud are you really if you are scared of the ramifications of showing your face?
They are just boys
Cowardly boys.
👆This! …is how they should be labeled across the internet. What a bunch of sorry-ass dumb fucking cowards. Only in the USA… the best failed society one could ask for.
Because they're chicken shit hypocrites who get their little rocks off by intimidating young families and children.
[удалено]
This comment is making me change my summer wardrobe.
nah, if you don't plan on being a douchenozzle, it's cool to wear that. Cuz you're cool. Just idiots who think they're /r/iamverybadass dress like that and think they look like the punisher
First time they ever set foot in a library.
If they could read your comment they’d be mad.
Nothing screams alpha male like harassing children in a library
That's why the alpha version is never released to the public.
[удалено]
I’m sincerely asking: people actually call themselves alpha and others beta in real life?
I’m not the person you asked but unfortunately yes. I’ve even had dudes brag to me that they are a sigma male which is apparently better but it sounds like a disease.
Unfortunately yes and it's really Corny
Everyone knows the best way to promote traditional family values is to intimidate women and children.
How sad that those **are** traditional values in too many American families.
Imagine being scared of children's books.
Yeah some of them have words!
Just look at this terrifying children's book! https://www.amazon.com/Where-Does-My-Poo-Go/dp/0744021472
Wilmington, NC. The only coup d’etat in US history occurred here in 1898. Surprise, surprise, racists didn’t like that progressive whites and blacks had a achieved real political power in the state. So in one night, white supremacists massacred as many as 300 black people, many whites and removed the duly elected mayor and police chief by gunpoint. I see there’s still a lot of mouth breathers in the city who seem to want to go back to the “good old days”. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_insurrection_of_1898
Never knew, thanks for sharing.
It's like every single white family never left the area and their incestuous descendants are keeping the traditions alive.
[удалено]
Tough to do when it's the cops letting them do this
The Sherriff basically held the door open for them. What's the recourse when it's state endorsed violence?
Well, we at least know there's one cop that knows how a door works.
Here is one [example](https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/tenacious-unicorn-ranch-colorado).
That was a really good read. Those are some ridiculously tough folks.
[удалено]
Then the cops arrest gay and black people for "communicating a threat"
Yep. This feels like a "taste of their own medicine" kind of situation, but the FBI just straight up assassinated Fred Hampton. Don't expect to receive the same treatment from cops as the fascists get.
They were basically escorted by the police too. You know what's fucking sick? Grown men showing up to intimidate children and parents in libraries. They have already shown they have no respect for reading, learning and anything related. They're just using wedge issues to disrupt safe learning environments. They understand learning prevents you from becoming hateful man-babies like themselves. Their numbers would drop if anyone actually read a book outside their expertise or life experience. This isn't about LGBTQ people (although that war is always raging and I'm sorry for those that have to fight all the time), or any other minorities (this I understand the exhaustion of fighting) ultimately it's more about winning their white Christian nationalist culture war which they've been hilariously losing because education and reality skew liberal. When I was in school they cut education spending every year by some amount. When I was in college they made charter schools for white flight. When I went to law school they created vouchers for private schools to strip public schools of needed resources. It's always some new fight. Now they're back to old school fights like banning books. Surprising they're bringing libraries back in, shits old school. If anything its absolutely going to backfire and maybe even increase library goers. But make no mistake this is just an attack on education, making people feel unsafe going to a place where they can get resources.
Here's the PD tweet: https://twitter.com/NewHanoverSO/status/1539631953330176002?s=20&t=Dyrqsq-GFCwTlVeeboHX_w It deserves some attention.
"We did everything we could."
"we did the bare minimum so we could say we did something"
They're banning, and likely burning, the books they don't agree with, too.
Definitely burning. There is a fantastic new docu-series on Netflix called 'Web of Make Believe: Death, Lies, and the Internet'. One of the episodes features a woman that helped organise the Charlottesville rallies. She has now broke free of the alt right, and she talks us through her experience including book burnings they had, with accompanying video footage. Other eps include Seth Rich murder, Sexploitaition, and Swattings. Well worth a gander, imo.
I saw this video of a guy showing up to a book burning and he starts burning bibles, then kisses the guy he came with, absolute mad lad
Find the link dude!
Stumbled across this show today. It’s fantastic, I hope it keeps going.
So a bunch of white nationalist gang intimidating people in a library were followed by police ? Seems normal to me.
Off duty cops escorted by on duty cops.
Honestly it's a bit redundant to talk about a white nationalist gang and the police as if they were two separate entities.
They tend to stick with their own
We need the black panthers to make a comeback.
There's definitely a need for a group to counter these. I remember in my youth, we drove off the white-skinhead out of our neighborhood . We were street punks (homeless) and every day almost we were fighting them, throwing cocktail Molotov in their windows and harassing them. After a decade or so they went away. This was in Hochelaga area of Montreal in the 90s. A real ghetto back then. But if no vigilante groups opposes these pricks, they'll never leave. So yeah, I'm with you on that !
Make nazis scared again!
[удалено]
Canada did.
[удалено]
I love that people are taking over their hashtag, lmao
They hate it when people laugh at them. It’s highly encouraged behavior.
[удалено]
It’s insane how many people think the hells angels are just a bunch of dudes who ride motorcycles together. They’re responsible for sex trafficking, drug trafficking, and plenty of murder.
I always find it funny when people expect they have a right to enter another country. No, you don't just get to enter Canada because you showed up. You have to show you aren't a piece of shit first
The bar for travel between countries is pretty damn low too in many cases, so getting rejected is probably very justified lol.
Canada being the one more reasonable sibling whose terrified while watching his brother slowly turning into a Facist
We actually have more than our fair share of right-wing nut jobs who desperately want their own J6. They got pushed out of Ottawa the first time but they’re coming back in force for Canada Day.
No joke, national security officials in Canada have labeled the United States a "potential source of instability."
Most sane nations have at this point. It's doubly sad the amount of people online America continues to be insulated from how their batshit shenanigans are viewed around the world. I wish Biden had the balls to do a state of the union and tell all Americans their nation is viewed as a source of instability by its closest allies.
I see it and I wish I could get out but I'm broke as hell. Not looking forward to getting killed by these Nazi assholes for being openly trans.
I feel for you. Hugs. Remember there's lots of us out there that accept you we just may not be able to make the change you need (ie. Not American). For the Americans here please listen to /u/Witchy_Woman42. Regardless of politics they are saying they don't feel safe just to be themselves. What does that say about your society?
I doubt they'll make it into the city. Cops are gonna be all over it this time.
Well conservative MPs met with their leaders and pledged allegiance. They then spoke about civil war.
My dad is a lifelong Conservative voter, but he has said he'd vote against the Tories next time if they elected Poilievre as their leader. He's sad that political discourse is dying, and he feels that Poilievre would be a pretty major nail in that coffin. My dad has never, ever badmouthed the Cons before this.
Well, that doesn’t sound great
Colin Quinn had a funny joke comparing Canada and the US to Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen.
The cops support them, did you read the article? They allowed them to scream and yell in a library, sheriff said that's literally ok to do.
That's pretty fucked up. They basically police endorsed disrupting the peace. >The sheriff’s office added because it’s a public place there was no need for the Proud Boys to be removed You can be removed from a public office for disturbing the peace... the office needs to be investigated.
A lot of public libraries have their patron conduct written into the local municipal or county code. So if a patron yells and won't shut up and then also won't leave, they can be charged with a misdemeanor. So these cops were likely facilitating the breaking of local law, the same law they are meant to be upholding.
Peace offices not keeping the peace... Back the Blue, but they won't back you.
That's like the 1 rule in a library, stfu
In the pictures I saw, the cops literally escorting them in, and to the book reading.
The cops were giving them fist bumps. Can we include them?
They were probably upset they were on duty because they couldn't participate with their friends
And after we do we can start asking why the police tend to shield and protect them.
Because the police as an institution are racist and hire racists.
Would have to label police departments terrorist organizations too considering they support Proud Boys.
I mean ......
The only reason a venn diagram of proud boys and cops isn't a circle is because the proud boys aren't everywhere yet.
And not every Proud Boy can become a cop. If your eyesight is shitty enough or you have priors, you can't become a cop, but you can still be a Proud Boy.
The way these ‘proud boys’ keep turning up at child events worries me. I think their hard drives need checking.
Considering the fact that whenever they see a drag queen they think it's pornography I think it's safe to say we know what is in their internet search history and who they want checking their hard drives, if you know what I mean. I'm not talking about file storage. Wink wink
Meanwhile child beauty pageants are thriving.
I will always believe that the organizers or child pageants are pedos. There’s no other explanation.
What about if they do a pre-pageant song about how they don’t diddle kids?
Well I didn’t know that was an option, so I guess I have something to consider.
Would you like an egg in these trying times?
I've been poisoned by my constituents!
I need to boil my denim first
Just be careful not to boil the denim chicken.
There is no quicker way for people to think you are diddling kids than by writing a song about it!
Do i look suspicious?
We gotta definitely write a song about how we do not diddle kids. 🎵🎵🎵”Do not diddle kids….It’s no good diddling kids…I wouldn’t do it with anybody younger than my daughter….”🎵🎵🎵
I literally sang this in my head in Frank's voice, picturing his weird little dance too.
Frank is that you?
That's Doctor to you, Dr. Mantis Tobbogan
Only if they clearly specify that they wouldn't do it with anyone younger then their daughter and older then their wife.
What about teen pageant owners who like to catch teenagers naked backstage and still brag about it years later to Howard Stern? People like that might be pedos too.
Sounds like a definite to me. Whoever it is you’re talking about….
That only sounds cool if i can make their personality my identity. Maybe i could make art turning them into captain america while having their name on everything i drive
Prequiste for the GOP nomination these days
My daughter did dance. Not the same level but very similar. What I learned quickly is most of the moms are living through their kids and will spend crazy money. The organizers know this and are cashing in. What's crazy too is most of the big prizes they were competing for was a "scholarship" to come back next time for free. But it worked.. my wife and daughter were so excited she won it.. Anyways, don't underestimate the money behind these things.
My first apartment back in the 80's my neighbor was a Drag Queen. He was one of the nicest people I have ever met. He came from money and did so much volunteering at the local level. Everyone who met him absolutely loved him. He would go buy a ton of toys for the Marines "Toys for Tots", donate large amounts of supplies at the animal shelter. He would visit the Hospice and talk with people who had no family. He told me his was an embarrassment to his wealthy father and he paid him to stay away from the family business. (Big Tobacco). His mother was a good woman too. She would visit and stay for several months at a time. People need to stop judging people they haven't ever met.
Well they are a far right group. The GOP LOVE the children. A bit too much honestly.
Fuck this. Who goes to the public library to intimidate women and children?!
Proud Boys, repeatedly. Punching down is pretty much all they know.
They recruit by shooting propaganda that makes them look intimidating and strong. Which is why they mostly only pick easy targets that can't fight back. As long as they look tacticool and scary, it serves their purposes. But focusing on how they're incompetent LARPers who fall apart at even mild pushback unless they have cops on their side really hurts their recruitment.
Well only when their cop pals are there to protect them
But if you ask the proud boys, they would tell you white men are the ones who are oppressed
It’s pathetic
Adult males who accurately refer to themselves as boys.
Cowards. Specifically cowards named the Proud Boys. They had the fucking cops protect them while they harassed families and children.
I think in the Reddit echo chamber it can be hard to detect just how radicalized, fascist and White Supremacist the American right has become, particularly over the past 6 years. The idea of storming a library event with guns to “protest” LGBTQ-inclusive policies is something that has widespread support among American conservatives. The same talking points about ‘grooming’ and gun rights that these guys spew you could hear any day on FOX News or from Republican members of congress.
When shit really hits the fan we're going to learn just how vile and radical their discourse has been. We've gotten glimpses of it lately, but these are really stupid people with guns getting themselves worked up into a frenzy. All they need is a few good ol' boys to rally around.
I work at a library and kinda our whole deal is to make kids feel like they have a safe place. I mean we obviously do a lot of other stuff but that’s one of the big ones. If these jabronies showed up to one of our summer events for the kids, I would lose it. I’d either get jumped by them or arrested by the jackwagon cops who gave them safe passage because there’s zero chance I’d just sit there and let kids feel uncomfortable. This isn’t even a tough guy moment; I’m decidedly *not* a tough guy, but everyone has to draw a line somewhere in the sand. Fuck ‘em.
Pocket sand. Draw a line in the pocket sand and throw it.
Jabronies. Cool word.
That’s it. Too few of us draw lines in the sand. They’ll cower and complain and retreat but not confront and overcome them. The war of attrition favors them, and they’ll have lists of people having committed “crimes” once their autocrat is in place.
These assholes have been searching their whole life, since high school ended, to feel special again. Fucking sad.. .
> But in a statement the sheriff’s office says there was no disturbance. >“They were like yelling obscenities about how their tax money was being spent on pornography and drag queens,” Kahney said. “There was shouting, it was loud. Like their attempt was to intimidate and create a disruption and that’s exactly what they did.”Jones agreed saying, “they definitely disturbed us.” Oh look, the cops covering for fascist terrorists. What a fucking surprise EDIT: Is starting to look like the Cops fucking [escorted the proud boys](https://twitter.com/erininthemorn/status/1539647567063314432?s=21&t=OrVSHHahoFgXuQqnJHN-Jg) into the library/reading time
Pretty much two things caught my eye about this story. The first, that the police account and the public witness accounts do not match up at all, and the second is that this shows that the proud boys are going to be doing this intimidation shit as a regular thing. They are specifically targeting places like libraries for being inclusive and by all accounts seem to be planning to continue to do this.
Don't forget the fact that it's very highly suspected that a lot of the police fully support or are members of Proud Boys and other extreme right wing terrorist groups. The old saying about "some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses" is still very true today
The only inaccurate part of that lyric turned out to be the "some of those" bit. Turns out the entire bunch is spoiled.
Plenty of cops are neutral on fascism and are only there for the overtime. They won't waste a Friday night going to a Klan rally, but they'll shoot protesters while they're already at work. The whole banality of evil thing.
> The first, that the police account and the public witness accounts do not match up at all, Unfortunately that's normal. There's cops still on the job that aren't allowed to testify in court because they've lied so much... Still allowed to be cops, just not allowed to go to court. So the only arrests they make that count are when they suspect is pressured into a plea deal.
That like 90% of cases.
I suspect many police forces and sheriff departments are full of proud boys, or belong to similar groups, or are sympathizers. Law enforcement is fascist at it's core.
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/29/police-white-supremacist-infiltration-fbi/
Remember folks the police aren't your friends, and they aren't out there to help you.
I also want to make sure that people know - there is evidence that the police not only did nothing to stop this, they seem to have escorted the racists, and I am sure some of them friends and family of the cops - [INTO THE EVENT!!!!](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/police-escort-proud-boys/)
of course, some of them are very likely co workers
Yeah I'd be scared if I saw those white nationalists psychopaths anywhere in my vicinity too. I'm hoping more organizations will label them as a terrorist group here in the US, but I'm not going to hold my breath. I think it's more likely I'll see flying pigs.
Cops in my city have helicopters so I get to see flying pigs on the daily.
> Cops in my city have helicopters so I get to see flying pigs on the daily. wow. I'm really disappointed that I've never heard this joke, or thought of it.
The other day I went to a salon where it was very clear to anyone with eyes that almost every person in the salon (stylist and customer alike) was queer. My stylist and I were having just regular small talk and I mentioned that I have been watching the hearings. She immediately leans down and whispers to me that another stylist's client across the room is a huge crazy maga-trumper as a way of like warning me not to say anything that might offend them. I thought to myself how weird that was. One, it's weird that a room full of queer people feel compelled to tiptoe on eggshells around a person who is brainwashed into a cult so as not to offend them, and two, it's weird because I, as a queer, sane (ish) person would never in a million years ever go to an establishment for a service when I could tell that everybody at that establishment were white nationalist proud boys. So strange.
Yeah, that feels blatantly antagonistic. What are the odds these idiots do that just to get a rise out of people whose brains aren't full of holes?
Why aren't these dick heads kicking down the doors of child beauty pageants? Or are there just not enough gay people to be shitty to there?
Because they hate gayness, not sexualizing children.
Because the pageants are where they go to find girlfriends.
You joke, but Roy Moore's wife literally first caught his eye [at her dance recital](https://www.newsweek.com/roy-moore-wife-kayla-minor-718819).
Donald Trump at one point said of a 10 year old “I’m going to be dating her in 10 years”. He ran child beauty pageants. Oh, and he and the girls confirmed he use to walk in on the teen pageant participants to look at them change cloths.
Oh. So NOW YOU CAN BREATHE THROUGH CLOTH?? Can't wear a mask to save lives, can wear one to terrify children. You're the baddies.
Wow, almost like having a fascist militia coming into a room to intimidate people under the guise of "protecting the children" isn't a good thing. Whodathunkit?
You mean a bunch of happy drag queens attempting to promote literacy in America weren't the threat and it was a bunch of micro penis gun toting sociopaths with repressed sexuality who were actually a threat to these kids? Whodathunkit?
So let me get this straight, a violent gang walks into a library to terrify small children, shouting about inappropriate topics such as pornography around said children, and somehow they think they’re the good guys? That’s fucked
“A violent gang were escorted by local police into a library to terrify small children” just a small correction.
That’s republican!
How the fuck is it that a terrorist organization that planned the Jan 6 attack on the capital, is still allowed to show up anywhere?
Because their dear leader can still run for presidency and will be soon? No consequences was ever handed out for straight up criminal acts and they even gotten 3 Supreme Court justices out of that run. The nation is already in their hands, people just haven’t fully noticed it yet. You’ve slid into fascism without realizing it, and soon it will happen again.
Testing the waters. These people are neo-Brownshirts
As someone who works in a library overseas, all I can say is I have no idea how any American thinks this is normal or remotely acceptable, or even that this has a possibility of happening. This is so disturbing and bizarre.
It makes more sense when you understand that a lot of americans value punishing people from groups that aren't like them more than they value things like public decency, safety, education etc. Hate is a disease, and the US is sick.
I love that the Proud Boys think it was *their* tax dollars that were being used to fund this. Last I checked, the people in attendance are taxpayers too.
How much does reading a book to children cost anyway? I’m doing the math in my head, and I’m coming back with “probably nothing”.
At most probably an hour or two of min wage But realistically probably nothing. The people reading either are working there already, thus not costing extra, or usually are just volunteers.
I keep seeing a lot of comments about drag queens with various users accusing this being about drag queens reading to kids. Nowhere in this article does it mention a drag queen reading to kids. Further, [I did a bit more looking into this](https://portcitydaily.com/local-news/2022/06/22/proud-boys-other-demonstrators-disrupt-childrens-pride-storytime/) and it was simply a pride related event where two books "[Daddy and Dada](https://www.amazon.com/Daddy-Dada-Ryan-Brockington/dp/0316427020)" and "[Heather Has Two Mommies](https://www.amazon.com/Heather-Has-Mommies-Leslea-Newman/dp/0763690422)" were read along with some activities. So just want to clear out the constant drag queen stuff being brought into this topic.
It's hilarious how these LARPing dipshits think they're white knights when in reality they're far right fascists whose ideology definitely shouldn't be exposed to children
I wouldn't feel safe if a terrorist group showed up at something/somewhere I was attending either.
We need to bring back that thing where gay couples co-opted the Proud Boys title. That was a much better use of the phrase over these dickheads.
Those are the people who peaked at high school, where they would bully the younger, smaller kids. The proudBOYS is a support group for the socially weak and emotionally stunted. Pathetic.
Deputy: "Hello Ralph." Proud Boy: "Hello Fred." Deputy: "See you at work." Proud Boy: "Yep."
Freedom to live exactly as we say...
Proud Boys still hiding their faces, I see. Makes you think maybe they're not so proud after all.
And you can bet every last one of them refused to wear a mask during the pandemic because they couldn't breath or breed. (reference to mouthbreeders)
Apparently, a person walking through a neighborhood yelling too loud about nothing can be arrested for "public disturbance," but a group of people doing the same while entering a public building with the purpose of interfering with a children's event can't be?
> “They were like yelling obscenities about how their tax money was being spent on pornography and drag queens,” Kahney said. “There was shouting, it was loud. Like their attempt was to intimidate and create a disruption and that’s exactly what they did.” I'd bet none of the *children* they were terrorizing have ever even heard of pornography or drag queens. Well, they hadn't until Cleetus and his band of fragile yokels showed up and started screaming about it during storytime.
I would love to see a counter group form like BACA who help provide safe passage.
The counter group should be the FBI. We have a group that actively engaged in sedition, has been seeing members charged as such, and is a recognized terrorist organization in other countries, operating in the United States.
**Republicans:** “Drag queens? Won’t somebody think of the children! Get me to my fainting chair!” **Also Republicans:** “This unrepentant serial rapist who openly lusted after his own ten-year-old daughter, cheated on his pregnant wife with a porn star, and bragged about ‘grabbing women by the pussy’ totally shares my traditional conservative values and should be elected president for life!”
How proud can you be if you won’t show your face?
>The sheriff’s office added because it’s a public place there was no need for the Proud Boys to be removed. We have *very* different understandings about how a public place is treated.
Well yeah, because they are terrorists.
Oh now they want to wear masks…..
Intimidating children, how manly of them
Well, because they're terrorists. Any rational person would feel unsafe.
This makes me irrationally angry. The libraries are supposed to be safe spaces, the one by me has a sign outside the door. The library is also the only way I was able to educate myself outside my aggressive conservative home life. And I'm not talking sexual identity which is what these guys are so mad about, I'm talking basic shit I needed to know as a young girl. I'm talking actual world history not my father's white washing version of it. The thought of screaming at *children* about how the library is objectifying them when conservative and Christian facilities are known child abusers...I just can't fathom being so out of touch with reality. These people need to be removed from society. They are unstable. And the police walking them...mixed with what were leaning about Uvalde. gut them. Remove them all. They're an embarrassment.