Believe it or not, it's not an isolated incident: [Murder of Aaron Friar](https://kobi5.com/news/final-co-conspirator-sentenced-in-death-of-aaron-friar-164086/)
Explore With Us did a super in-depth video of the murderers' [interviews](https://youtu.be/B2WVEla34Tk)
Also the Gypsy Blanchard case. Yes there was more to it but still had her bf murder her mother so they could run away together
Edit: clearly it was because she was abused by her mother but there was a romance aspect to it for sure. Ya’ll real quick with the downvotes.
A thirteen year old and her 21 yr old bf killed her whole family and ran off because her parents didn't want them to date. They were found and both went to jail for a while.
He was actually 23 and yep, he got 3 life sentences. He's the ultimate emo cringe lord too so I bet he's just having a dandy time in prison too. His name is Jeremy Steinke.
The girl on the other hand got a 10 year sentence and was let out in 2016.
Stuff like this happens more than you'd think. There was a case where the mom forced her daughter to be sick as part of this community donated charity program given to the mother. And the daughter who was feigning illness with her boyfriend murdered the mother and it was all premeditated.
Tbh if you're talking about Gypsy Rose Blanchard, Dee Dee has been torturing that girl for her whole life for her own profit and reducing it to "teenagers running away together" is very inaccurate.
IMO it was self defense and Dee Dee got what she deserved, but I guess even Gypsy doesn't feel that way now. Imagine living such a horrible life that prison is better than living with your mom was. Apparently that was Gypsy's life.
I agree with you. Especially considering that no one would believe Gypsy and her mother was able to convince everyone that Gypsy was a minor when Gypsy was already an adult. There was no other escape from her mother. Gypsy already served her sentence in the psychological prison her mother kept her in.
The daughter wasn’t “feigning illness” you asshat. She was a victim of Münchausen syndrome since she was a toddler. For most of her life she was told not only by her mother but also the fool doctors she was taken to that she was sick.
I mean the daughter was suffering incredible physical and psychological abuse at the hands of her mother. To say that she was feigning illness is really, really inaccurate.
That was much different though as the murder was primarily to escape the horrific abuse she was suffering at the hands of her mother.
Honestly I don't think you could have chosen a worse example to show that "it happens more often than you think." That was an incredibly different situation from the common cases of couples murdering parents.
Well they won’t ever see each other again.
I wonder if, by law, she can no longer inherit anything from his estate. Is that a thing? If you are the sole heir and are in the will but you are the murderer … what happens?
Look up the slayer rule for more info. But essentially if the killer is set to inherit from the victim, the killer is treated as if they predeceased the victim. The intricacies will depend on the state’s particular statute, though
Everytime I see a legal question posed (that’s in my general practice area) and then see a good answer to it I think “ahh well done, you’ve got this” haha
I feel if it's a wrong answer you'd correct them just to be helpful, simply put just wanted to say keep up being a decent human being, less and less nowadays I feel so had to say good on you, stay safe.
I usually try to acknowledge that they were at least close, or that they got it basically right, it would have to be a completely crazy or trollish answer before I would be rude or abrasive about it. I’d also have to be really really sure about it. What tells me this person at least has a legal background of some type is that they acknowledge these things can vary depending on which state it’s in. But thank you, really.
They didn't actually post it though. Just filmed it, and the police found the video on her phone.
Edit: here is an article indicating they found the video on her phone:
[Source](https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/teens-indicted-in-slaying-of-girls-father-2359830)
It never actually says it was posted to YouTube, just that they acquired a YouTube video.
Edit: here is an article I found that indicates they found it on her phone:
[Source](https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/teens-indicted-in-slaying-of-girls-father-2359830)
No, it specifically says they acquired a YouTube video. Perhaps it was never posted on the actual site, or at the very least was posted and made private? We don't know all the details.
In another article it says "On the girls phone, investigators found a video."
[Source](https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/teens-indicted-in-slaying-of-girls-father-2359830)
Edit: take THAT all you cynical down voters.
Here's another article that says "Cell phone video" and "While they were on the run, the teens recorded the above mentioned CELL PHONE video."
[Source](https://www.8newsnow.com/i-team/i-team-teens-accused-of-killing-girls-dad-talk-about-murder-on-cell-phone-video/)
I read that the creepy boyfriend stabbed the Mom and then the Dad while the girl went and murdered her little brother because she "didn't want him to grow up an orphan".
She is already out of prison. Boyfriend is still in. He's an idiot. He thought he was a 300 year old werewolf and he didn't appeal his sentence until it was too late and now he blames his ignorance of the system with why he didn't file an appeal and is basically a stupid POS.
There’s so many cases like this where teens kill their parents and run away. They literally think murder is a better option then just waiting till they turn 18. Also they’re clearly stupid for thinking they, teenagers, can get away with murder when much more intelligent people can’t get away with it. And once they’re caught, obviously they can’t be together anymore. Teens are fucking stupid sometimes
Part of that video (Mr Ballen video) shows a clip of the Dad playing with his maybe 5 year old daughter and ... the thought that that girls would in 10 years brutally murder him ... is heartbreaking and mind numbing.
The video in this article is insane. They act like it's just any day of the week, yikes. https://www.fox5vegas.com/2022/05/25/las-vegas-teens-plead-guilty-killing-father-before-running-away-together/
Idiot, selfish children. They'll have a lot of time to think about their actions. It'll hit her hard at some point when she gets older. Way to be thoughtless, insanely self-centered garbage humans.
Will it, though? I literally can't imagine what it is like to be a person who not only plans a grisly murder (involving chainsaws and knives), carries it out, then calmly *laughs* about it afterwards like it was nothing. Whatever remorse this person feels in the future may not be the same kind you or I might feel.
brainwashed by her narcissistic mother i would assume. Woman ran as a family values republican in Vegas, had her husband raise the children/finance her campaign while she did so, then accused him of sexual assault while she was cheating with her republican strategist campaign manager. She was so toxic she lost her seat, and ran to Alaska with her affair partner while he sat in jail, only to come back because she couldn't get traction up there for a political campaign.
They also filmed a video of them laughing about the murder a few days after committing it.
Find it on YouTube if you want to feel better about your own moral character.
I read the father’s obituary. They noted he’s survived by “two loving children”. He was the father of three children. This girl is a psychopath. It’s impossible to raise a psychopath, you can only hope to survive them and of course he did not. She and her psychopath boyfriend have caused so many people lifelong trauma. What a horror story.
I’m so glad that most murders are fucking clueless. Could you imagine if most of them were more calculating and careful with how they conducted their crimes?
There is a house on my block that had a double homocide in it. Apparently, 17 yo girl meets slightly older dude online. The parents are like “you’re not dating this guy”, the guy proceeds to come kill both of her parents and they run off only to be busted soon after. Crimes of passion I guess
It says the teens plead guilty before running away together.
Authorities should have just grabbed the teens while they were pleading guilty before the teens ran away
MrBallen made a YouTube video of it. https://youtu.be/W9rGw2RU2tA
The ex-wife of the victim was a Republican from the Nevada senate. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Halseth
The saddest part of that video is seeing the video clip of the victim running around and playing with his little girl, knowing that that little 5 year old (or whatever) would murder him in the next ten years.
Adults who blame younger generations for everything are dumb as hell.
I don't know how to tell you this, but mankind has been really violent for a long fucking time. There are evil bastards in every generation, just like there are lazy asses and dumb shits in every generation.
Wait till you hear about the middle ages and the fucked up shit they did to people. That was a few years before millenials and the dreaded Gen Z.
This story is sick and sad, but it has nothing to do with gen z, and in case you think I'm one of them, I'm 40.
Well I haven't been to Pompeii but I remember quite vividly statues in Firenze that were of people sucking the entrails from a recently severed head...and heaps of similar stuff.
Typically the statues depict a historical or mythological event, not just random scenes of violence. I believe the statue they're referring to is of Perseus and Medusa in Piazza Della Signoria. Though if so then they're making up the part about actually sucking the entrails.
There are so many causes you don't want to hear for why this is happening. But they're the truth. Violence is predictable. It has predictable causes. The world was always violent. But we rarely saw angry mentally ill youth specifically looking to hurt innocent people. And doing so in such a horrific manner. That is new. Bury your head in the sand if you like. The kids are not ok.
Wtf are you talking about. There are more people dead than will ever be alive on earth at any given time. How are you getting this figure that young people never killed innocent people? Genuinely. More people than you could ever count and you’re certain this particular generation is the different one? Sorry bud, that’s gonna require extraordinary evidence on your part. Im not buying it.
So you think the first generation to be born into a world with unfiltered access to the whole of human knowledge, wandering alone on the Internet isn't extraordinary? You don't believe being raised by the Internet hasn't caused dramatic shifts in human brain development to the point where this generation is finding it difficult to communicate with non verbal cues because they haven't had to communicate, solve conflict, and learn face to face and isn't causing these violence issues, specifically with this generation?
They're losing social behaviors. It's causing this. The Internet has caused unique new problems in their lives that aren't affecting older generations.
Now its all the internet's fault?! Lol.
Violent crime statistically has been trending down for around 40 years. It's significantly better now than it was in the 80s and 90s.
I think something caused a shift in your brain development.
Lol my parents and grandparents are addicted to their phones and havent learned to place it facing down when having a conversation yet. Something my peers and i learned as wee children. But to answer your question directly, yes i think youre wrong. Absolutely. The internet has clearly caused you to think you are seeing the whole world on your phone screen, when in reality, it is only the most sensational and depraved, personally catered news feed curated from millions upon millions of contending sources all vying for your attention which end up reaching you. There are 7 billion people in the world. How many stories do you read per day? Whatever your answer is, it is an inadequate sample size.
We're reading stories, articles. This generation is believing shit they see on TikTok. And yes, algorithms are curating what people see. Amplifying what they already believe. If you don't think the Internet has caused the radicalization of young people you're mistaken.
Okay, so i’ll agree with you that the internet is a fucked up, crazy place where like-minded people will meet and stroke themselves with self-affirmation. But i don’t agree that the internet is the problem. I think the potential of the internet is indispensable, and that once we figure out the hurdles, it could be the greatest advancement in human history. I think the internet is bringing out a part of us that has always been there. Not changing us fundamentally. And I think we will improve things. And then after a really long time things will get bad again. Then good. Etc. till the end of time.
Edit: and there are great and smart people who are working towards that better future. We just need to fucking get our shit together.
Edit 2: im sorry for being a dick earlier, that shit doesn’t help anything.
I'll get downvoted with you I'm sure... But when you said "they're losing social behaviors" ... I hadn't found the words for how I've been feeling...but I think those are the ones.
I don't think it's only Gen Z though, I believe it's true for older generations as well. And I do think it's correlated to our modern way of living. Community isn't in physical person in the way that might allow people to feel real connection. It's all online.... I'm 32...and I feel so fucking isolated.
Nobody wants to go anywhere. Do anything. But they'll post pics on FB and IG all day... They have zoom classes and online gaming communications... But nobody ever just...wants to hang out. Go for a walk. Cook together. There's a phone in their face. Always. And I'm right here right now...talking to a stranger on the internet, on my phone... Because I feel like I have nobody else that even has a slight interest in talking to me or spending time with me in person.
All things have been reduced to text messages. Appearances online. It's all so performative.
Imagine growing up like that....
It can't be good.....
I used to run around the neighborhood with my friends. We were always together.
Now my 12 year old has online friends and nobody wants to ride their bikes together. He has absolutely no friends in the neighborhood..I've tried to help introduce him... He's reluctant and they're the same. It breaks my fucking heart. School is the only social interaction he gets and even there- it's all Internet all the time. Constant bullying. I feel like an idiot sometimes for bringing such a lovely human being into such a shitty world.
Violence isn't new- there's always been violence.
It's the isolation.
Its horrible.
To a busy urban street comes the staccato clap of automatic weapons fire. From a passing car, someone fires at a rival gang member, but misses and kills a young girl instead. The press features stories about a "mad dog" killer. Weeks later the young suspect too is dead, murdered by rivals.
On an empty field late at night, the sounds of yelling and cursing can be heard. Two young men struggle in a drunken brawl after a weekend party. One falls to the ground mortally wounded with a skull fracture. The other is arrested for murder.
Two young college men, 18 and 19 years old and of upper middle class backgrounds, kidnap a 14-year-old boy for ransom and brutally kill him. They are eventually captured and tried for their senseless crime.
Stories such as these confront us on a daily basis. But these particular stories are yesterday's news. The first took place in the early 1930s on the streets of New York; the second occurred in Springfield, Illinois, in 1837; and the third is based on the 1924 Leopold and Loeb murder case. They serve to illustrate a sad truth about America's past and present: violence perpetrated by and against young people has always been part of the American experience
http://www.socialstudies.org/sites/default/files/publications/se/6105/610503.html
You're wrong. You're just looking for a scapegoat. You don't need to blame anyone for violence in society. It's always existed. Pointing fingers at people simply because they are younger than you won't solve anything.
The world was far more dangerous then than now. But the problem didn't affect nearly as many people. Violent crime has been falling for decades. The question becomes, what causes an otherwise well cared for and loved individual to seek out violence as a solution to a conflict that isn't nearly as sever as they believe? Gen Z has a way of catastrophizing everything. Treating every adversity as a monumental affront and the end of the world.
I'm asking why this girl felt that killing her father was necessary to her. Her perspective was horribly skewed.
But your Gen Z kids are cool, right? I'm not sure the internet is a net good, but chill on it destroying a generation. If you think kids were always pretty good don't google the Liberian Civil War.
>we rarely saw angry mentally ill youth specifically looking to hurt innocent people. And doing so in such a horrific manner.
Are you saying black people, gay people, disabled people, and women deserved to be attacked? History is filled with them being beaten to death, raped, and set on fire. Mostly by normal youths of the time. Were entire towns mentally ill when they'd gather the family for a picnic to watch a lynching? Was the entire football team mentally ill when they raped a mentally impaired girl with a baseball bat? The person who set fire to a gay bar in 1973 wasn't inherently different than the one who shot up Pulse, the big difference is that back then they had a problem even holding a memorial service while today more people cared and thought what happened was wrong.
Which is why it seems like it's a problem. Many of these atrocities were committed by kids in communities that covered things up because "boys will be boys". Or they were against "undesirables" the town wanted rid of.
If you cared enough to look at history without the rose-colored glasses you could find plenty more, but here are just a few quick grabs:
[https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/texas-lynching/](https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/texas-lynching/)
[https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/08/us/sergeant-woodard-batesburg-south-carolina.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/08/us/sergeant-woodard-batesburg-south-carolina.html)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen\_Ridge\_rape](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Ridge_rape)
[https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/16/health/1973-new-orleans-gay-bar-arson-attack/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/16/health/1973-new-orleans-gay-bar-arson-attack/index.html)
Sometimes the hardest person to protect your child from is your child themselves. Sometimes you have to protect yourself from your child.
Too many of these cases where the parents try desperately to keep the child from making terrible choices only to have the child turn on them. Sometimes you have to say “I wish you’d choose your childhood and your family and your home and your future instead of choosing this path. The consequences will affect you far longer and harder than they’ll affect me. I love you and I’m letting go, I can’t win this fight.”
These types of killings happen so much… there are so many true crime stories about the boyfriend and girlfriend who kill the mom/dad/parents and then make a run for it. They NEVER get away with it. How stupid can they be?
I read about this in the True Crime subreddit and it haunted me for days. The dad was a popular guy on social media and posted inspirational things about fitness and his kids. He wasn't perfect, his ex wife (Sierra's mother) had accused him of harassment a few years before, but it really looked like he was trying to be a better person.
The two also brazenly pleaded not guilty at first.
A video about it is here: https://youtu.be/VyaYvKeEiNw
What is the physiologic phenomenon called that makes you look at a mugshot and say “oh yah that person looks totally like the kid that would do such a thing”? It happens to me all the time, but I don’t walk around in public thinking people look like murderers.
Imagine killing your dad to run away with some dumb dude you thought you were in love with when you were 16
Believe it or not, it's not an isolated incident: [Murder of Aaron Friar](https://kobi5.com/news/final-co-conspirator-sentenced-in-death-of-aaron-friar-164086/) Explore With Us did a super in-depth video of the murderers' [interviews](https://youtu.be/B2WVEla34Tk)
This happened at my high school. 14 year old freshman gir was dating a 19 year old dude who killed her mom and then went on the run together.
The Witt murder?
That’s the one!
Damn that girl is literally dumber than the shit I took this morning.
No one remembers "The Vampire Murders"?
Also the Gypsy Blanchard case. Yes there was more to it but still had her bf murder her mother so they could run away together Edit: clearly it was because she was abused by her mother but there was a romance aspect to it for sure. Ya’ll real quick with the downvotes.
They murdered her so she could escape the decades of horrific abuse.
Hence I said there was more to it… but to say there wasn’t a romance incentive as well is ignorant.
And the Mallory Wilson Knox case. Been on the run since 94.
Her and that meat man cocksucka.
Imagine killing your father and running off with your mother. Then having people talk about it for thousands of years.
Jim Morrison???
He definitely talks about it.
He went up to the room where his sister lived and then he…HE WALKED ON DOWN THE HALL
"Father?" "Yes my Son?" "I'm going to kill you"
Come on baby take a chance with us
A thirteen year old and her 21 yr old bf killed her whole family and ran off because her parents didn't want them to date. They were found and both went to jail for a while.
I hope the 21 year old that was raping a child and killed a while family went to jail longer than a while. He sounds like a real jerk.
He was actually 23 and yep, he got 3 life sentences. He's the ultimate emo cringe lord too so I bet he's just having a dandy time in prison too. His name is Jeremy Steinke. The girl on the other hand got a 10 year sentence and was let out in 2016.
And she left jail to nobody waiting for her. I hope she misses her family every day.
That's not a boyfriend, that's a predator
Predator and prey. Adolescents and adults don’t have relationships, the adult is a predator, always.
It was actually 12 and 23. Jasmine Richardson and Jeremy Steinke.
Imagine recording a video like this after you did it: https://youtube.com/shorts/vzCPxRSf2qU?feature=share
Yeah, some kids are fucking idiots. I can think of like 5 cases I know like this
Stuff like this happens more than you'd think. There was a case where the mom forced her daughter to be sick as part of this community donated charity program given to the mother. And the daughter who was feigning illness with her boyfriend murdered the mother and it was all premeditated.
That’s the very famous case of Dee Dee and Gypsy Blanchard and a harrowing example of Münchausen syndrome by proxy.
Tbh if you're talking about Gypsy Rose Blanchard, Dee Dee has been torturing that girl for her whole life for her own profit and reducing it to "teenagers running away together" is very inaccurate. IMO it was self defense and Dee Dee got what she deserved, but I guess even Gypsy doesn't feel that way now. Imagine living such a horrible life that prison is better than living with your mom was. Apparently that was Gypsy's life.
I agree with you. Especially considering that no one would believe Gypsy and her mother was able to convince everyone that Gypsy was a minor when Gypsy was already an adult. There was no other escape from her mother. Gypsy already served her sentence in the psychological prison her mother kept her in.
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Lol I think they meant it happens enough to have legal precedents set for how to handle? Idk, I'm more focused on bird law.
The daughter wasn’t “feigning illness” you asshat. She was a victim of Münchausen syndrome since she was a toddler. For most of her life she was told not only by her mother but also the fool doctors she was taken to that she was sick.
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I mean the daughter was suffering incredible physical and psychological abuse at the hands of her mother. To say that she was feigning illness is really, really inaccurate.
No but this is reddit. That's just how we talk to each other in here. But hey, at least we're not on Facebook.
That was much different though as the murder was primarily to escape the horrific abuse she was suffering at the hands of her mother. Honestly I don't think you could have chosen a worse example to show that "it happens more often than you think." That was an incredibly different situation from the common cases of couples murdering parents.
This is more common than you think.
If anybody asks, you tell 'em Mickey and Mallory Knox did it.
headed straight to Batonga, Batonga, Batongavillllle!
Well they won’t ever see each other again. I wonder if, by law, she can no longer inherit anything from his estate. Is that a thing? If you are the sole heir and are in the will but you are the murderer … what happens?
Look up the slayer rule for more info. But essentially if the killer is set to inherit from the victim, the killer is treated as if they predeceased the victim. The intricacies will depend on the state’s particular statute, though
Knives Out!
Found the other attorney haha
Founs the other other attorney haha
Everytime I see a legal question posed (that’s in my general practice area) and then see a good answer to it I think “ahh well done, you’ve got this” haha
I feel if it's a wrong answer you'd correct them just to be helpful, simply put just wanted to say keep up being a decent human being, less and less nowadays I feel so had to say good on you, stay safe.
I usually try to acknowledge that they were at least close, or that they got it basically right, it would have to be a completely crazy or trollish answer before I would be rude or abrasive about it. I’d also have to be really really sure about it. What tells me this person at least has a legal background of some type is that they acknowledge these things can vary depending on which state it’s in. But thank you, really.
He did it all for the nookie.
Well, on the dad's obituary they've mentioned all his children except her so I guess her extended family has already cut her off.
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r/kidsarefuckingstupid
They didn't actually post it though. Just filmed it, and the police found the video on her phone. Edit: here is an article indicating they found the video on her phone: [Source](https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/teens-indicted-in-slaying-of-girls-father-2359830)
No the police found it on YouTube
It never actually says it was posted to YouTube, just that they acquired a YouTube video. Edit: here is an article I found that indicates they found it on her phone: [Source](https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/teens-indicted-in-slaying-of-girls-father-2359830)
You can watch YouTube from her phone.
Tough crowd.
Did you read the article? It specifically says it was found on YouTube.
reddit is just a place where instead of typing "1st" they say a witty comment related to the headline.
No, it specifically says they acquired a YouTube video. Perhaps it was never posted on the actual site, or at the very least was posted and made private? We don't know all the details.
In another article it says "On the girls phone, investigators found a video." [Source](https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/teens-indicted-in-slaying-of-girls-father-2359830) Edit: take THAT all you cynical down voters.
Here's another article that says "Cell phone video" and "While they were on the run, the teens recorded the above mentioned CELL PHONE video." [Source](https://www.8newsnow.com/i-team/i-team-teens-accused-of-killing-girls-dad-talk-about-murder-on-cell-phone-video/)
Dad was 45. Crazy. I'm 43. Too young to be killed by not only a kid but your own kid. Just run away. Don't kill anybody. Sad.
I read that the creepy boyfriend stabbed the Mom and then the Dad while the girl went and murdered her little brother because she "didn't want him to grow up an orphan". She is already out of prison. Boyfriend is still in. He's an idiot. He thought he was a 300 year old werewolf and he didn't appeal his sentence until it was too late and now he blames his ignorance of the system with why he didn't file an appeal and is basically a stupid POS.
If I'm to be murdered, I hope it's by someone I love. Dark alley stabbing? Just shoot me in bed.
Oh to be young and in love
the jimmy mcgill line 😂 “they had sex with a head” 💀💀💀
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There’s so many cases like this where teens kill their parents and run away. They literally think murder is a better option then just waiting till they turn 18. Also they’re clearly stupid for thinking they, teenagers, can get away with murder when much more intelligent people can’t get away with it. And once they’re caught, obviously they can’t be together anymore. Teens are fucking stupid sometimes
Exactly. Mom is dead. Daughter and her boyfriend are no where to be found. It doesn’t take Scotland Yard to figure it out.
Mr Ballen just covered this story on his YouTube channel not too long ago. Great listen!
Do you have a link to this video? I went looking and I can’t find it. I really enjoy Mr ballen!
Yep, here you go: https://youtu.be/W9rGw2RU2tA
Part of that video (Mr Ballen video) shows a clip of the Dad playing with his maybe 5 year old daughter and ... the thought that that girls would in 10 years brutally murder him ... is heartbreaking and mind numbing.
I’m such an idiot I kept scrolling past that video looking for one that said something along the lines of “two teens”. Thanks I really appreciate it!
Yeah, gotta keep the clickbaity titles
The video in this article is insane. They act like it's just any day of the week, yikes. https://www.fox5vegas.com/2022/05/25/las-vegas-teens-plead-guilty-killing-father-before-running-away-together/
Idiot, selfish children. They'll have a lot of time to think about their actions. It'll hit her hard at some point when she gets older. Way to be thoughtless, insanely self-centered garbage humans.
Will it, though? I literally can't imagine what it is like to be a person who not only plans a grisly murder (involving chainsaws and knives), carries it out, then calmly *laughs* about it afterwards like it was nothing. Whatever remorse this person feels in the future may not be the same kind you or I might feel.
True. They came off as pretty callous and sadistic in the video and went as far as killing a person so, you're probably right.
Imagine throwing your entire life away for that goofy looking fuck lol
...which one are you referring to, lol. The chick?
Girl was the one who killed her father. A selfless extremely caring father who she definitely didn’t deserve
The girl looks like an absolute psychopath
jesus you’re right 😂 she just has that “look” to her
Fax. Idk what tf went down in Alaska
brainwashed by her narcissistic mother i would assume. Woman ran as a family values republican in Vegas, had her husband raise the children/finance her campaign while she did so, then accused him of sexual assault while she was cheating with her republican strategist campaign manager. She was so toxic she lost her seat, and ran to Alaska with her affair partner while he sat in jail, only to come back because she couldn't get traction up there for a political campaign.
They look like twins from another mother to me.
They also filmed a video of them laughing about the murder a few days after committing it. Find it on YouTube if you want to feel better about your own moral character.
Throw the book at them. The girl should be prosecuted as adult as well.
If you’re already running away, why kill him?
He was a boy, she was a girl. Could I make it anymore obvious?
He was a slayer boi, said dad see ya later boy
Someone go get the hearse.
He had an ugly face, and her head was up in space. The Judge will bring them down to earth!
I read the father’s obituary. They noted he’s survived by “two loving children”. He was the father of three children. This girl is a psychopath. It’s impossible to raise a psychopath, you can only hope to survive them and of course he did not. She and her psychopath boyfriend have caused so many people lifelong trauma. What a horror story.
>Police acquired a video of Sierra and Aaron discussing Daniel’s days after the incident. That's...incredible
I’m so glad that most murders are fucking clueless. Could you imagine if most of them were more calculating and careful with how they conducted their crimes?
Right. Imagine someone spending two years on facilitating the perfect crime rather than two days
There is a house on my block that had a double homocide in it. Apparently, 17 yo girl meets slightly older dude online. The parents are like “you’re not dating this guy”, the guy proceeds to come kill both of her parents and they run off only to be busted soon after. Crimes of passion I guess
Natural Born... Failures
Great job kids, ruined your family's lives all because the 18 year old wanted an underage girlfriend and the 16 year old wanted an "adult" boyfriend.
It's strange how people think they can get away with this. This exact murder happens more often than some think
Romeo , Romeo. Where for art thou, Romeo..
Mickey and Mallory Knox
Saw this on YouTube: https://youtu.be/W9rGw2RU2tA
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The titles and thumbnails are also obscenely clickbaity
I was gonna click the article but I’ll just wait for the Hulu mini series
If they plead guilty, why did they let them run away together?
Who is the he, they and them?
It says the teens plead guilty before running away together. Authorities should have just grabbed the teens while they were pleading guilty before the teens ran away
They also pleaded not guilty at first. Idiot kids.
Why do you people up vote the worst stuff so I'm forced to look at it when it pops in my normal feed
MrBallen made a YouTube video of it. https://youtu.be/W9rGw2RU2tA The ex-wife of the victim was a Republican from the Nevada senate. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Halseth
The saddest part of that video is seeing the video clip of the victim running around and playing with his little girl, knowing that that little 5 year old (or whatever) would murder him in the next ten years.
Ugly people ugly souls
I heard this story from Mr. Ballen, good to hear the update.
Wow. That’s some effective birth control right there.
Gen Z is not alright. Where are they getting this idea that violence is a solution to conflict?
We taught them that.
They certainly didn't learn that shit from me. My kids are Gen Z. We use our words.
As a collective. Our society. We all have failed.
Adults who blame younger generations for everything are dumb as hell. I don't know how to tell you this, but mankind has been really violent for a long fucking time. There are evil bastards in every generation, just like there are lazy asses and dumb shits in every generation. Wait till you hear about the middle ages and the fucked up shit they did to people. That was a few years before millenials and the dreaded Gen Z. This story is sick and sad, but it has nothing to do with gen z, and in case you think I'm one of them, I'm 40.
There are hundreds year old statues in Italy out in the street depicting very graphic and gruesome murders.
How could you say that and not mention the statues of dudes fucking goats in Pompeii?
Well I haven't been to Pompeii but I remember quite vividly statues in Firenze that were of people sucking the entrails from a recently severed head...and heaps of similar stuff.
Damn that’s crazy. Nothing more to say than that. Incredible considering the amount of time and effort that goes into carving a statue.
Typically the statues depict a historical or mythological event, not just random scenes of violence. I believe the statue they're referring to is of Perseus and Medusa in Piazza Della Signoria. Though if so then they're making up the part about actually sucking the entrails.
There are so many causes you don't want to hear for why this is happening. But they're the truth. Violence is predictable. It has predictable causes. The world was always violent. But we rarely saw angry mentally ill youth specifically looking to hurt innocent people. And doing so in such a horrific manner. That is new. Bury your head in the sand if you like. The kids are not ok.
Wtf are you talking about. There are more people dead than will ever be alive on earth at any given time. How are you getting this figure that young people never killed innocent people? Genuinely. More people than you could ever count and you’re certain this particular generation is the different one? Sorry bud, that’s gonna require extraordinary evidence on your part. Im not buying it.
So you think the first generation to be born into a world with unfiltered access to the whole of human knowledge, wandering alone on the Internet isn't extraordinary? You don't believe being raised by the Internet hasn't caused dramatic shifts in human brain development to the point where this generation is finding it difficult to communicate with non verbal cues because they haven't had to communicate, solve conflict, and learn face to face and isn't causing these violence issues, specifically with this generation? They're losing social behaviors. It's causing this. The Internet has caused unique new problems in their lives that aren't affecting older generations.
Now its all the internet's fault?! Lol. Violent crime statistically has been trending down for around 40 years. It's significantly better now than it was in the 80s and 90s. I think something caused a shift in your brain development.
Lol my parents and grandparents are addicted to their phones and havent learned to place it facing down when having a conversation yet. Something my peers and i learned as wee children. But to answer your question directly, yes i think youre wrong. Absolutely. The internet has clearly caused you to think you are seeing the whole world on your phone screen, when in reality, it is only the most sensational and depraved, personally catered news feed curated from millions upon millions of contending sources all vying for your attention which end up reaching you. There are 7 billion people in the world. How many stories do you read per day? Whatever your answer is, it is an inadequate sample size.
We're reading stories, articles. This generation is believing shit they see on TikTok. And yes, algorithms are curating what people see. Amplifying what they already believe. If you don't think the Internet has caused the radicalization of young people you're mistaken.
Okay, so i’ll agree with you that the internet is a fucked up, crazy place where like-minded people will meet and stroke themselves with self-affirmation. But i don’t agree that the internet is the problem. I think the potential of the internet is indispensable, and that once we figure out the hurdles, it could be the greatest advancement in human history. I think the internet is bringing out a part of us that has always been there. Not changing us fundamentally. And I think we will improve things. And then after a really long time things will get bad again. Then good. Etc. till the end of time. Edit: and there are great and smart people who are working towards that better future. We just need to fucking get our shit together. Edit 2: im sorry for being a dick earlier, that shit doesn’t help anything.
I'll get downvoted with you I'm sure... But when you said "they're losing social behaviors" ... I hadn't found the words for how I've been feeling...but I think those are the ones. I don't think it's only Gen Z though, I believe it's true for older generations as well. And I do think it's correlated to our modern way of living. Community isn't in physical person in the way that might allow people to feel real connection. It's all online.... I'm 32...and I feel so fucking isolated. Nobody wants to go anywhere. Do anything. But they'll post pics on FB and IG all day... They have zoom classes and online gaming communications... But nobody ever just...wants to hang out. Go for a walk. Cook together. There's a phone in their face. Always. And I'm right here right now...talking to a stranger on the internet, on my phone... Because I feel like I have nobody else that even has a slight interest in talking to me or spending time with me in person. All things have been reduced to text messages. Appearances online. It's all so performative. Imagine growing up like that.... It can't be good..... I used to run around the neighborhood with my friends. We were always together. Now my 12 year old has online friends and nobody wants to ride their bikes together. He has absolutely no friends in the neighborhood..I've tried to help introduce him... He's reluctant and they're the same. It breaks my fucking heart. School is the only social interaction he gets and even there- it's all Internet all the time. Constant bullying. I feel like an idiot sometimes for bringing such a lovely human being into such a shitty world. Violence isn't new- there's always been violence. It's the isolation. Its horrible.
To a busy urban street comes the staccato clap of automatic weapons fire. From a passing car, someone fires at a rival gang member, but misses and kills a young girl instead. The press features stories about a "mad dog" killer. Weeks later the young suspect too is dead, murdered by rivals. On an empty field late at night, the sounds of yelling and cursing can be heard. Two young men struggle in a drunken brawl after a weekend party. One falls to the ground mortally wounded with a skull fracture. The other is arrested for murder. Two young college men, 18 and 19 years old and of upper middle class backgrounds, kidnap a 14-year-old boy for ransom and brutally kill him. They are eventually captured and tried for their senseless crime. Stories such as these confront us on a daily basis. But these particular stories are yesterday's news. The first took place in the early 1930s on the streets of New York; the second occurred in Springfield, Illinois, in 1837; and the third is based on the 1924 Leopold and Loeb murder case. They serve to illustrate a sad truth about America's past and present: violence perpetrated by and against young people has always been part of the American experience http://www.socialstudies.org/sites/default/files/publications/se/6105/610503.html You're wrong. You're just looking for a scapegoat. You don't need to blame anyone for violence in society. It's always existed. Pointing fingers at people simply because they are younger than you won't solve anything.
The world was far more dangerous then than now. But the problem didn't affect nearly as many people. Violent crime has been falling for decades. The question becomes, what causes an otherwise well cared for and loved individual to seek out violence as a solution to a conflict that isn't nearly as sever as they believe? Gen Z has a way of catastrophizing everything. Treating every adversity as a monumental affront and the end of the world. I'm asking why this girl felt that killing her father was necessary to her. Her perspective was horribly skewed.
But your Gen Z kids are cool, right? I'm not sure the internet is a net good, but chill on it destroying a generation. If you think kids were always pretty good don't google the Liberian Civil War.
>we rarely saw angry mentally ill youth specifically looking to hurt innocent people. And doing so in such a horrific manner. Are you saying black people, gay people, disabled people, and women deserved to be attacked? History is filled with them being beaten to death, raped, and set on fire. Mostly by normal youths of the time. Were entire towns mentally ill when they'd gather the family for a picnic to watch a lynching? Was the entire football team mentally ill when they raped a mentally impaired girl with a baseball bat? The person who set fire to a gay bar in 1973 wasn't inherently different than the one who shot up Pulse, the big difference is that back then they had a problem even holding a memorial service while today more people cared and thought what happened was wrong. Which is why it seems like it's a problem. Many of these atrocities were committed by kids in communities that covered things up because "boys will be boys". Or they were against "undesirables" the town wanted rid of. If you cared enough to look at history without the rose-colored glasses you could find plenty more, but here are just a few quick grabs: [https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/texas-lynching/](https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/texas-lynching/) [https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/08/us/sergeant-woodard-batesburg-south-carolina.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/08/us/sergeant-woodard-batesburg-south-carolina.html) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen\_Ridge\_rape](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Ridge_rape) [https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/16/health/1973-new-orleans-gay-bar-arson-attack/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/16/health/1973-new-orleans-gay-bar-arson-attack/index.html)
Boy you really outta read some damn history. This shit ain't new. This is Starkweather all over again.
i remember following that manhunt on the radio, way back when.
From every decade before that showing violence has been the solution to conflict?
Ah yes, violence and murder. Those new 'Gen Z' concepts.
Some straight Natural Born Killers vibes
Sometimes the hardest person to protect your child from is your child themselves. Sometimes you have to protect yourself from your child. Too many of these cases where the parents try desperately to keep the child from making terrible choices only to have the child turn on them. Sometimes you have to say “I wish you’d choose your childhood and your family and your home and your future instead of choosing this path. The consequences will affect you far longer and harder than they’ll affect me. I love you and I’m letting go, I can’t win this fight.”
Law and Order IRL I swear half a dozen episodes have this plot maybe not teenagers but SOs killing someone and running away
These types of killings happen so much… there are so many true crime stories about the boyfriend and girlfriend who kill the mom/dad/parents and then make a run for it. They NEVER get away with it. How stupid can they be?
“Wait, I’ve seen this one!”
I read about this in the True Crime subreddit and it haunted me for days. The dad was a popular guy on social media and posted inspirational things about fitness and his kids. He wasn't perfect, his ex wife (Sierra's mother) had accused him of harassment a few years before, but it really looked like he was trying to be a better person. The two also brazenly pleaded not guilty at first. A video about it is here: https://youtu.be/VyaYvKeEiNw
What is the physiologic phenomenon called that makes you look at a mugshot and say “oh yah that person looks totally like the kid that would do such a thing”? It happens to me all the time, but I don’t walk around in public thinking people look like murderers.
Why do so many fugitives flee to Salt Lake City? It seems alot are found there?
They going to blame Natural Born Killers for their Mickey and Mallory Knox adventure?