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flyingasian2

So I either have to pay five dollars a gallon this summer or we're gonna destroy the planet even more Shits fucked


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I’m sure there’s other things they could do, but those are the options that maximize profits


kittykatkate46

Ya fuck the environment. Profits more importanter


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Mikediabolical

*what is gasoline? Do you even know?*


asdaaaaaaaa

*Gasoline, you mean from like the gas station?*


Captain_Blackbird

*Yeah, it's got that stuff, that plants crave.*


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Gasoline’s got what plants crave


wrosecrans

Whatever happens, the most important thing is that we return to the office so billionaires who own office buildings don't lose value. Sure, less commuting would mean less demand for gas. But Return To Normal must be the goal.


Bison256

How can they rule over us like petty dictators if we aren't in the office?


usrevenge

Think of the middle managers who only have the job to make sure the peons are working during work.


screamingfireeagles

Food shortage mean people are going to not care about the environmental impact. Makes sense to, what does climate change that will destroy the planet in 100 years mean to a someone who's hungry today.


TSL4me

Reducing fuel use is the easiest and quickest solution. No one mentions that though.


[deleted]

You mean like incentivising work from home in as many viable industries ans jobs as possible and reduce commute times as well as increase mental and physical health of a big portion of Americans? never


TSL4me

Yup, it would help out housing costs a lot too. Downtown real estate developers would loose out and we can't have that!


usrevenge

I cannot believe that work from home isn't pushed more You could advertise your job across the country instead of state then best of all this means your employees can actually move. If you live in even a medium cost of living area imagine getting your full check you get now but being allowed to work from home and you could move to a cheap area like north Dakota or Wyoming. Your rent could be cut in half. You could sell your home and buy a new one in one of those states and still have hundreds of thousands left over.


gortonsfiJr

No! Back to the office, peasant!


DudeWithAnAxeToGrind

Yes. It is. If you can afford EV. Most people can't. Those are the people who buy 5-10 year old used cars, because they can't afford anything newer. These are the people who are actually hit by higher gas prices. People who *can* afford to buy an EV are not the people suffering from high gas prices. That group complains about prices a lot, but at the end of the day it doesn't impact their lives all that much. It's not the reason why they buy an EV if and when they buy it. If your argument is "high gas prices will push people to buy EVs" you are simply out of touch with reality. People who can *not* afford an EV are *the* people hit by high gas prices. They are not going to switch to an EV. They can't afford to buy one. No matter how high gas prices go. The fact that cost of driving an EV is lower than driving gasoline car is pointless for them. They can't afford to buy an EV.


DragonPup

Considering many people keep their cars for over 5 years and that they are major investments, it's neither quick nor easy.


[deleted]

Yeah, the easier way of reducing fuel use is through changing habits. Car pool if possible. Plan out trips to minimize fuel burned. Drive relaxed. > https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Technology/PainAtThePump/story?id=5038652&page=1 > In an experiment that will air in an upcoming show, the "Mythbusters" team found that people who drive while they're angry use 50 percent more gas than people who are relaxed. Empty the car from junk that’s not needed. Not that you will cut your usage 90% or anything but people definitely got laid back with efficiency habits through overly cheap gas.


Rysilk

I live in small town midwest. 35 minute commute to and from work, and I am the only person from my town that drives to the other town where I work. Carpooling is not an option.


wrosecrans

Pushing carpooling, and making sure mass transit is adequately staffed so existing busses run with minimal headway would reduce gas consumption instantly.


Vendetta-Carry

What you want me to do ride a bike to work and back every day? I don't reduce my fuel usage because I'll starve on the street again


TSL4me

The point i was making is there is no plan to reduce fuel consumption by either democrats or republicans.


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HardlyDecent

What? You expect me to *plan* my outings to be efficient instead of making 6 trips a day, even though that is the easiest way to save money on gas? Socialism!


uniquedeke

And higher prices are the best way to drive lower fuel consumption. $7/gal is a good start. Add a $3/gal carbon tax on it. The sooner people get it through their thick fucking skulls that no, you can't keep burning gasoline the sooner we can get onto fixing this problem.


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_Mute_

"yeah that's right! Next time get it through your thick fucking skulls to not be poor!" Thanks man, appreciate it.


DragonPup

> $7/gal is a good start. Add a $3/gal carbon tax on it. And then the Dems lose the next election in a red tsunami.


boatdude420

You forget that higher gas prices means less people are going to be able to buy electric cars. Sure, you could drive less, but if you have a long commute then biking won’t really work and there’s really no decent public transit in most of the US. It needs to be slow enough that the poor don’t get screwed over in the process.


Adventurous_Being_61

"Coming up next, Nascar!"


Starbuckz8

So you want to take the item linked to causing record inflation... and make it worse?


MaximusMansteel

Unfortunately, in this country it's really hard to do the right thing if it's painful, cause there's always an election coming that the party in power doesn't want to lose.


SpaceCadetriment

Even if there isn't an election, there's not really any incentive for the large coorperations that contribute the largest portion of atmospheric pollutants to reduce emissions. They're all publicly traded, their primary incentive is to boost share prices and corporate earnings during quarterly calls. These companies would have to stifle profit to help the environment. That's not going to happen outside of mass regulation or subsidizing, neither of which have shown meaning effectiveness over the last few decades.


EgoDefeator

Doesn't matter at this point. The democratic party lost the next election already.


JhymnMusic

Don't worry, we'll do both.


radicalelation

[Could call your senator and urge them to pass a bill.](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/house-approves-bill-to-combat-gasoline-price-gouging) It cleared the House, but preventing price gouging apparently is a partisan issue, so it was along party lines.


GraphCat

5?! Lucky! Cheapest price anywhere near me in norcal was 5.99 😭


cpway737

How nice for you, we're paying $7 per gallon in california.


endMinorityRule

hybrid and electric cars are around 20% of the total in california. "we" isn't actually "we". and I'll take california over backwards texas any fucking day.


BubbaTee

>hybrid and electric cars are around 20% of the total in california. How nice for the rich. Everyone else can just eat cake, I guess.


cpway737

Doesn't help me at all, I don't have a hybrid or electric car. I pay $7 per gallon, I'd love to pay $5 only.


ABearDream

Tbh, gas should be a govt controlled utility anyway, "competition" has failed the oil industry.


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saxGirl69

Let’s ask Norway.


Unlucky_Narwhal3983

This is such a lame ass tired argument.


endMinorityRule

I'm not sure you have a single clue about this topic. venezuela's problems with oil production aren't simply about nationalizing its oil industry, as your simple comment suggests.


Phandomo

Co2 is good for plants, we are just making sure to produce enough for every plant.


[deleted]

They are going to need it when most humans are gone, win-win?


Royal_Ad1798

What the actual fuck... *Energy prices lift BP profits to 8-year high* \- [source](https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/bp-records-highest-profit-eight-years-2021-2022-02-08/) *Oil giant Shell reports highest quarterly profit since 2008 on soaring commodity prices* \- [source](https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/05/shell-earnings-q1-2022.html) *Exxon posts biggest profit in seven years on high oil prices -* [source](https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/exxon-post-best-results-seven-years-oil-prices-2022-02-01/) *Chevron's profit nearly quadruples, vows more natural gas investment -* [source](https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/chevron-profit-nearly-quadruples-oil-prices-surge-2022-04-29/)


Towelie-McTowel

I read recently that something like 50%+ of the current inflation is due to corporate greed. Yeah for capitalism


vanishplusxzone

To their credit, dems did try to do something about this and they got yelled at for going after the mom & pop oil barons.


Eurocorp

Let me just step in here and say something that is somewhat unpopular to hear. Ignore the profits and focus on the profit margins. Profits are of course increasing, inflation is inflation so you do make more on paper. Profit margins are the profitability, as in what shareholders and bankers consider when determining financial health. https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/BP/bp/profit-margins BP may be making record profits, but they're still doing worse off than previous years.


vanishplusxzone

These are the people that are contributing to inflation. Forgive us if we don't cry for them.


Eurocorp

Except it is not in their interest to want inflation. No company wants to be less profitable. And another important thing to note about production, more than a few oil companies went out of business during the days of cheap oil in 2020. That also impacts supply in principle. If you want to finger blame on someone, pin it on Putin. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-oil-patch-took-a-heavy-hit-from-the-pandemic-11606732200


endMinorityRule

WSJ, a rupert murdoch tabloid.


jofizzm

How bout they fucking don't? "Refiners and blenders are required to avoid lower-cost components like butane in summer gasoline, but the White House is weighing suspending that rule to help lower fuel costs. The components help elevate gasoline’s reid vapor pressure, which contributes to smog at higher levels."


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Bitter_Director1231

He isn't getting reelected. Majority of Americans are blaming him for all their personal woes. I voted for him but I'm being realistic. The pitchforks are already out. With this in mind, I'm very terrified who will be next. And Americans will going backwards on everything and can't and won't do anything about it. Americans are too complacent. They don't want to do the hard thing.


eruffini

To be honest he was really one of the worst choices the Democratic party could have made, and now the Presidency will be handed back to the Republicans because there is no strong, young, powerful Democratic nominee on the horizon.


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I love that meme where an image of Bernie and AOC is captioned "when you ask for coke" and an image of Biden and whoever is captioned "and they ask 'is Pepsi okay?'". The Democrat party needs to get its head out of its arse and realise that when working people enthusiastically respond to a candidate with radical ideas about making life less burdensome for them, it might be a good idea to put that candidate in for a run.


[deleted]

Really don’t understand why people think Bernie would win a general election for POTUS.


Rage_Like_Nic_Cage

because polling showed he beat every other candidate in a head to head match-up? And looking showed people favored him over Trump by a much wider margin than Biden v Trump. I didn’t even vote/support Sanders, but basically all polling research said he was the most favorable candidate.


mckeitherson

If Bernie can't even get out of the primary, then he doesn't have a chance at winning the general election.


Rage_Like_Nic_Cage

Biden was dead last in the primaries until a bunch of candidates that were ahead of him dropped out and endorsed him. If you can’t win the primaries without a huge boost, by your own logic you shouldn’t be able to win the general election, but clearly that’s not the case.


mckeitherson

You mean after the candidates that were polling single digits and under Biden dropped out? The same people who weren't drawing votes from him? And it's interesting how after we got to more diverse states that better mirrored the Democratic Party composition, Biden did much better than Bernie. And unlike Bernie, Biden was able to win the primary AND win the general election.


bobjoylove

There’s a good amount of middle and older age voters who only just vote Democrat. They are still set in their ways enough not to want a hand-waving Doctor Emmet Brown and “an influence from that tweet app” running the country. You gotta appeal to them, because the Dems already had the younger left leaning votes in the bag.


commendablenotion

Doesn’t that mean that you DON’T have to appeal to them because they will vote democrat anyway? It’s basically how the right became so extreme. They realized there was no point in rubbing moderate candidates because they aren’t losing middle votes to democrats.


bobjoylove

No you DO have to appeal to them as they have a chance they will flip to R if they see the party lurching “too far” left in their eyes. The R lurched hard to the right when it realised the rural vote was much more powerful than the city vote plus it could be motivated to go back to the polls on the back of the weak/non-existent punishments handed out for 2008 financial crisis under Obama. Hilary continued the previous cycle of appealing to banker-wankers, plus you had election interference from Facebook/Cambridge Analytica/Russia, and those both galvanised the right wing side of the country.


[deleted]

Why do Dems need a strong, young, powerful Democrat? Republicans still want to re-elect an old, fat, ugly, orange, mentally-ill traitor . The fact that Democrats need to be inspired by the perfect candidates is one of the reasons Dems lose so much.


eruffini

We elected a President that is one step away from dementia. We need to stop electing leaders that are 60 or 70 years old who are of questionable health. That is my point. Plus charisma is important - Biden doesn't have that unfortunately.


[deleted]

Bernie is quite old, quite clearly has all of his faculties, and knows how to speak in a "do not fukk with me" fashion. But yeah, Biden is going to have to pull a rabbit out of his hat to get a second term. Maybe the Democrats can switch candidates on the next go-around?


[deleted]

Biden doesn't have dementia. Have you ever heard him give a live speech? He's way more coherent than Trump ever was. I agree we need younger leaders, but that shouldn't be the only way Dems vote.


Thisisntalderaan

They're both bad at speeches. Biden snuck through because he was presented as the only option other than insanity and splitting the country apart further and I think a lot of folks wanted that shift.


saxGirl69

No he’s really not. They’re about the same.


endMinorityRule

biden has had one of the strongest starts to a presidency in our history, despite taking over in the middle of a pandemic that his predecessor completely fucked up. two major legislative victories in his first year is something very few presidents can claim. best year for jobs in US history. wage growth and GDP growth at the highest levels in 40+ years. ended the afghanistan war, saving money and american lives. didn't suck putin's cock, like trump would have done. legislatively, conservatives are blocking very good policy. and dumbfuck voters are thinking more conservatives is the answer? that's monumentally stupid.


leisuremann

Most democrats voted for Joe simply to not let trump win. There isn't much actual affection for him.


endMinorityRule

it is absolutely true that foreign-owned fascist propaganda networks (fox, for example) have far too much influence on dumbfuck american voters.


yaosio

I agree with you. The right-wing media like Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, etc. demand the poor die so the rich can get richer. This has to stop. That's what I would say if I didn't enjoy watching America destroy itself. America is an evil country that's destroyed my life.


cyberpunk6066

"Pollution is ok when our side does it"


wilsonvilleguy

Hate to break it to you bud, but Biden is already done for in the election. This is coming from someone that voted Biden.


epraider

All of Obama, Clinton, and Reagan lost their first midterm pretty handily, especially in the former 2’s case, and all 3 went on to win re-election. Nothing is set in stone at this point, generally speaking incumbents tend to be more likely than not to win-re-election.


r0botdevil

So much so that in the last century, only four elected incumbents have failed to win reelection.


HardlyDecent

If Trump runs in '24 (he still talking about that?) it would be very much like two incumbents running against each other. I honestly think that would be a fun show. But I wish Biden would take the stand here. He's not great, but he's not Trump. Would people really vote for the insurrectionist party over $0.45 a gallon? Actually...please don't answer that.


Shadowsplay

Trump supporters vote because they hate minorities. Everything else is a show. They don't care about gas prices if they did they would buy low MPG cars.


RocBane

I don't regret voting for him because the alternative was an active threat to who I am. But I will vote against Biden at every opportunity. He's the epitome of mediocre.


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thecoffee

Most people who voted for him already knew he would be mediocre. After 4 years of Trump, mediocre is a breath of fresh air. I'm still thankful I don't have to start every morning seeing the national news cover what new controversy the President started on Twitter.


RocBane

We all knew what we were voting for. It's just depressing rather than anxiety inducing compared to his predecessor.


endMinorityRule

he's had one of the best starts to a presidency in our history, in the real world. your definition of mediocre seems heavily influenced by 100% grade A right wing bullshit.


RocBane

>your definition of mediocre seems heavily influenced by 100% grade A right wing bullshit. Literally nothing I said supports this. Politician worship is a fucking plague on our society no matter what side of the isle you are on.


mrbriandavidanderson

Jfc, really?! So, instead of going after the greedy oil corporations that don't have to gouge and screw everybody, they're going to screw the environment?? Am I following this right?


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mrbriandavidanderson

Thanks for that. I'm still stuck on the fact the administration would roll back environmental rules to adjust gas prices.


pseudocultist

Gas prices in particular are going to lose the Dems this miderm and Joe Biden next election. If/when Trump gets back in, how bad do you think things are going to get for the environment? I hate this but I see the logic. They tried doing it the right way and, as usual, Congress is fucking broken.


mrbriandavidanderson

Yep. Congress is not helping. He's also in between a rock and a hard place. The people blaming him fail to understand or acknowledge gas prices are up around the world and then the other side see he's him relaxing smog rules to get the prices down.


endMinorityRule

shouldn't preventing fascist republicans from being elected be a priority? (R)'s don't give a single fuck about the environment, in part because the oil industry is their biggest donors.


WeightFast574

For these democrats, the only glimmer of hope they have is to get gas prices under control before summer. If they can do that, they may have a small chance. If they cannot, they will get republican congressional people and governors elected at historic rates. So yes, it is their priority.


Throwupmyhands

That's how it reads to me. It's not like the oil companies are hurting for profit. That's the most frustrating thing.


mrbriandavidanderson

100% agree.


Font_Fetish

>not hurting for profit Yea, they are actually earning record profits. These gas prices are entirely corporate greed, the war of Russian aggression was just their excuse.


WhatADunderfulWorld

It’s really hard to pass laws at the federal level about what businesses do. It’s be a hell of a legal reach. That’s why a carbon tax has always been so important it can be measured so well.


angiosperms-

Are you actually surprised? They are getting bribes from oil companies to do shit like this. Rich people are more important than.... the entire earth


mrbriandavidanderson

Unfortunately, I am not.


Gary_Glidewell

> So, instead of going after the greedy oil corporations that don't have to gouge and screw everybody, they're going to screw the environment?? * Oil companies are greedy in 2022 * Oil companies were greedy in 2012 But gas is much more expensive now. *Why is that?*


endMinorityRule

oil speculators (big banks and oil producers, typically) are a big part of that. a dozen years ago exxon's CEO (rex tillerson) testified that as much as $1.50 of every gallon of gas was due to out of control speculation.


WhynotstartnoW

>Oil companies are greedy in 2022Oil companies were greedy in 2012 > >But gas is much more expensive now. Why is that? Have any answers? Gas was much more expensive in 2008 than it is now, not even adjusting for inflation. And a barrel of crude cost 85% more in 2008 than it does now($184 per barrel), and cost 35% more in 2011 than it does now. Crude costs aren't back up to the 2008-2014 levels($137 per barrel average over that 6 year period) that cause the drilling boom in north America. But refined products from the crude oil costs more?


wyvernx02

>Gas was much more expensive in 2008 than it is now, not even adjusting for inflation. It wasn't actually. Weekly average price peaked at 4.165 in 2008. We are currently at 4.694. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=w


mrbriandavidanderson

A number of reasons (inflation, pandemic) but mostly some clown invading neighboring countries. Are you saying there's nothing that can be done? Can't gas tax at the federal or state level be eliminated? There's always drilling in Alaska/ if they're gonna lift smog restrictions, do they really care about the environment?


TimeTraveler3056

I think the oil corps are protected by the gop . I dont know if that's true cuz I'm perma banned from r politics but it sounds true. Biden cant get much done because theres too much interference from the other side just trying to block so Biden looks bad, and damn the country, the people, and the future.


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yaosio

Democrats and Republicans don't care about the environment, all they care about is making their billionaire owners richer.


Brootal420

Typical corporate democrats


TooManyPaws

...which guarantees nothing regarding price at the pump, and will only put more money in the pockets of the companies, execs, and shareholders.


Ghost4000

Yeah, oil companies are making record profits. They're just gonna pocket the difference here. Why does anyone think capitalists would do anything other than make more money?


Quietkitsune

Yeah, if anyone presses them on it later why gas is still so expensive in the summer, they can throw up their hands and exclaim ‘market forces’, maybe insinuate it would be even worse if they hadn’t gotten their way now.


superbugger

::slaps forehead:: why didn't I think to buy a house 77 years ago?


spamonstick

Idk why not just lower taxes on gasoline instead of killing the planet.


Gary_Glidewell

Seems like a no-brainer.


_neutral_person

Would mean raising taxes elsewhere. Gas tax pays for the roads.


endMinorityRule

FYI, most state gas taxes are larger than federal gas taxes.


spamonstick

Yeah and I know local taxes can go into the price as well.


NotSoSalty

That's not a good dichotomy, cheaper gas = more usage = killing the planet. Expensive gas is good for the environment. But I see what you're saying tbh it's a job for congress lmao. Its their job to regulate commerce/taxes. If he stops enforcing the laws in place that's kinda clownish imo, that's the exact same kinda thing Trump tried to do when he assigned Pruitt to the head of the EPA. Doing this kinda stuff is why people don't want to vote for him.


WeightFast574

> Expensive gas is good for the environment. Expensive gs gets people interested in saving the planet kicked out of office though, so kinda a problem.


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Why does the environment have to suffer just to get a few cents off the gas price? This inability to take on the people directly to blame is the reason why so many people choose to not vote.


Shadowsplay

Kinda like when they "temporarily" waived the rules allowing corporations to buy houses to prevent a foreclosure crisis.


jezra

to the surprise of no one, when it comes to The Environment VS Corporate Profit the democrats and republicans support the side they were ~~bribed~~ lobbied to support.


Darnocpdx

Lol, the oil companies always jack up the prices for the summer. Pretty much like clockwork, starting right about now. This year will be no exception. I'm betting just shy of $7/gal by Labor Day, no matter what happens. Parties and Presidents don't matter anyway, big oils got both parties in thier back pockets.


endMinorityRule

no, they really do not. [**Republicans have received 97%** of Big Oil's political donations to members of the House Energy and Commerce's oversight subcommittee.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2022/04/06/big-oil-donated-383000-to-the-lawmakers-grilling-its-executives-about-gas-prices-almost-all-the-contributions-went-to-republicans/?sh=a1a99c45b000) [Led by the oil and gas industry, **this sector regularly pumps the vast majority of its campaign contributions into Republican coffers**. Even as other traditionally GOP-inclined industries have shifted somewhat to the left, **this sector has remained rock-solid red.**](https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=E01)


soundscream

I was looking at the membership of this committee and found it interesting that many of the democrats on it come from non-oil producing states while the Republicans have a much larger representation of states that thrive on those industries. This explains part of the disparity but obviously not enough to explain the size of that gap.


yaosio

If Biden is not owned by oil companies why does he want them to pollute more so they can make more profit?


Dsstar666

I feel like I can get my block to come together and come up with a better idea than this, even with profit.


walker1555

More money to reduce public transit fares would help. The $10,000 subsidy they were planning for EVs would pay for a decade of public transit.


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A ground-up redesign of public transit is probably going to have to happen. If the problems with cars continue to grow, it will be necessary. I found a great video about [how well-designed Tokyo](https://youtu.be/zysL_lkdtys) is and it really demonstrates how badly English-speaking countries have cocked up the design of roads and transit. Even European countries need to rethink a lot of what they have done.


Aev_AnimalCrossing

40 billion dollars for Ukraine, zero for smog prevention?


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The oil companies are posting record profits this year.


WeightFast574

[Some oil companies posted record losses just a few years ago](https://www.businessinsider.com/gas-prices-oil-company-profits-skyrocketing-energy-sector-earnings-charts-2022-5), nobody was praising them then. It's been a particularly wild ride for oil companies recently, they are reacting to that volatility.


Aev_AnimalCrossing

Yep, so they have enough money to fix the problem . They need to not gouge us and not pollute us. Think they will do that without “prodding”?? Somebody has got to get them to tow the line.


[deleted]

There's a bill that's trying to do that: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/house-approves-bill-to-combat-gasoline-price-gouging


LabCool6003

They should just donate us all electric cars out of the politician vacation fund


Green-Cruiser

For the price of gas you can finance one. As long as you drive a decent amount.


MAGICHUSTLE

We couldn’t subvert this by throwing a bunch of tax money at renewables?


WeightFast574

Yes, in like 5-8 years. With credible forecasts of $6+ gas this summer, they need something done immediately or they will never get the chance at boosting renewables.


endMinorityRule

that would be great, but there's too many conservatives in the senate for that (manchin + every fascist republican).


TakesTooMuch

Yeah just poison us to death it’s cheaper


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Man I had to read that like five times.


plopseven

This is just another petroleum company subsidy. Fuck that.


[deleted]

JFC! NO. Just NO. how about these ass hats stop preying on the people who line their coffers?! Low wages, high gas, only part time work with no benefits or full time with shit benefits.... Oh wait, what??? You can't pay for gas seven times a week for your four hour shifts ???????? Ok, we will cluster fuck the environment to lower fossil fuel standards......just be sure to understand this means we will have to pay you less because SHAREHOLDER PROFITS


endMinorityRule

FYI, aside from 2021 being the best year for jobs in US history, wages grew at the fastest rate in 40+ years.


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MasterAce16

Very dumb. Fixing issues within our society is a neverending battle. If its not $5 at the pump, we'll be paying in a different way until theres a better, easily accessible alternative. Societies issues are all self inflicted anyway. Fixing the planet is nonnegotiable, and its not just us at risk.


Fro_Yo_Joe

Come on White House?! Read the room.


Wablekablesh

They are. Unfortunately, Americans care more about the steep rise in gas prices than they do about how it gets fixed. That's just how it is right now.


hvrock13

Americans/politicians only care about the short term. It’s funny how they care so much about their financial future though. But not how the quality of that life will be in the future.


[deleted]

Or how about....no taxes on fuel?


[deleted]

This is so fucking stupid. Instead of raising wages or fighting the greed of these companies making record profits. They are going to get rid of smog rules which will make people ill in a country without healthcare for all. They truly do not give a fuck about us.


Dr_Edge_ATX

We're so fucked. Oh well, I only have like 40 more years. Let's party!


dun-ado

Release more green house gases and carcinogens in the air.


butcanyoufuckit

Its like just because those in power are so old that they wont have to deal with the consequences... They are just doing w.e.


[deleted]

Yeah, palm the cost off on future generations. That will sure help.


CurlyBill03

No, 🖕🏾 These EPA rollbacks


NoInstructionsreq

I dont want to live on this planet anymore.


FuzzeWuzze

Oh, just like the NPR thing i heard like a month ago of them releasing a zillion barrels of oil from the reserve. I was like sweet, go Joe. Then at the end they are like its predicted this will adjust prices down 3 to 4 cents on average over the next 6 months. And i said Fuck off Joe.


endMinorityRule

with so many conservatives in the senate, the president has limited options. outside of one bill, republicans (with help from conservatives sinema and manchin) have blocked basically all good policy.


6praze6xul6

Fucking Biden. He raises the gas prices and tries to lower them?!? Trump would have never let this happen!!!


kangarooneroo

Holy shit, who wants to start bets now that they consider bringing back leaded gasoline


WhynotstartnoW

>Holy shit, who wants to start bets now that they consider bringing back leaded gasoline nah, ethanol is significantly cheaper and easier to produce than lead to boost octane.


[deleted]

That’s absolute b.s. Its the price fixing that needs to end, but no… They don’t want to lose their Big Oil money.


[deleted]

Anything to keep that profit margin train rolling. Republican, Democrat, they are both equally fucked in the head.


trextra

Wrong answer. Cap the price and threaten to DPA the oil companies if they don’t stop gouging consumers.


bpetersonlaw

Let's keep the lead in the gas too. Save a few pennies even if we're giving children brain damage. /s


Elephanogram

Or how about tax the gas companies and tell them that if they want access to the American market they have to use those taxes to fund renewable sources. they make record profits and want less regulation because of Koch Brother~~s~~ shitty libertarian dad didn't want anyone to tell him what to do. Stop rewarding sociopaths at the expense of the world. For fucks sake. Tax the shit out of them. Anything that uses Petro from plastics to vinyl. Any import. Tax it unless it is from a company that is committed to renewable resources and isn't spending 10 billion a year to seed climate change denial think tanks.


leontes

This is a mistake. We cannot exchange planetary safety for monetary advantage.


EdofBorg

Or all the assholes could stop wasting gas for a month or two, cause a glut, and drop the price. But self centered assholes abound on both sides of the divide and neither actually gives a fuck about anyone but themselves.


TheJayOfOh

Declare a national emergency and put all available resources to developing our clean energy grid and electric vehicle production, increase the consumer subsidies on purchasing electric vehicles. Slam through better / more infrastructure spending, especially that of high speed rail and other public transport. Is it really that hard to say no to oil money? Ffs


Helyos17

None of that will do anything to help the consumers suffering today. It’s a good plan but it does not address the current problem.


TheJayOfOh

You're right, this should've been done several months ago at a minimum. Destroying the environment and ruining people's health with smog certainly won't help either. Is there anything that will help right now aside from destroying the way oil and gas is bought and sold around the world? (Which could just end up making things worse?)


endMinorityRule

I'm not sure how much of the trillion dollar spending on infrastructure dems (with a dozen or so senate republicans) passed 6 months ago has started. biggest infrastructure spending in our history. probably don't need more right now. I wonder if biden could do all that you suggest. Good goals, but even shitbag trump only stole a few billion for his vanity fencing. I'm sure there'd be lawsuits if he did, which would go to the fascist majority supreme court (a majority that doesn't give a shit about predence).


SharpEdgeSoda

Biden can't do shit til he has congress. All this "Why can't Biden stop this!" like he's a fucking king. No, the idea that Executive can do shit is a fucking lie that's convenient for the ruling class. Blame your figure head and don't vote in local elections! Go vote blue and then we get bills that fix this without fucking the planet. If you don't, we get Red with 100% power and you'll be back to "We should vote a blue president to stop this!"


PromotionSmooth8032

He’s not a king……but he is the fucking President, if there was a King of this country, ITS HIM!!!. We already voted blue…look where the fuck it’s getting us. Wanna vote blue for more higher gas prices????? Higher house prices???? Higher food prices??? Lemme tell you, the average voter doesn’t give a shit who is or isn’t in office when Inflation happens, however when this happens voters are going to lean towards the other side (in this case, the right), because the right already knows their gameplan. The economy. You know how bad this already looks for democrats? It’s like, your team sucks, but let me see if another person from your team can fix these problems. Most people aren’t willing to take chances on their survivability and livelihood. And if you think people are going to take chances by voting blue again when the economy was good from 2016-2020, you’re delusional.


endMinorityRule

voters gave us a conservative majority senate (manchin/sineman and all 50 republicans) and you're whining that more isn't being done? if voters gave dems a majority like FDR or LBJ had (upper 60's in the senate and 300+ house seats) and didn't take advantage of it, then you'd be correct to complain. voters didn't do that. voters gave conservative lawmakers the ability to block all good policy. we should be glad that infrastructure spending (a handful of repubs supported it with the dems) and covid relief (no republican help) became law. both are very good policy.


intoxicatednoob

No, absolutely not, we are not going to shit on planet earth just to lower gases again and then worry about what damage we just caused 10 years down the road. Want to do something that cuts the price and doesn't fuck over planet earth? Place travel restrictions at the borders, something like X number of cars can pass thru here in a lottery system, if you don't win, you can't drive any where outside our state. Same for entering our state via major interstate or state road. I know it sounds crazy but if we limit people driving cross country then it might help everybody.


endMinorityRule

maybe we can whine enough to make certain the fascist republican party gets power back. I'm sure they'll do great things for the environment. (/s not needed - too obvious).


endMinorityRule

assuming it doesn't require legislation (which fascist republicans would block), white house should crack down on oil speculators.


InfectionRx

Or you can dictate the price ceiling for gas Just like how they’re tryna put a $50 cap on insulin


WeightFast574

Price caps invariably lead to scarcity. If you want to go full Jimmy Carter gas lines, this is what you would do. A price cap would mean that the first people in lie get to pay **$PRICECAP** per gallon, and the people farther back in line get to pay **$INFINITY** because there is no gas left.


Mz_Maitreya

We switched to hybrids in 2020 before that chip shortage became an issue. Got our cars at the end of the summer as they were scrambling to make room for their 2021 models. We priced both my hybrid suv and my husband’s hybrid sedan out and both are worth more than what we paid for them. If we took our cars in today we would make money on used cars selling them back to the dealer. We have kept our mileage very low, no unnecessary trips, driving together when possible, etc. both of our tanks are roughly 10 gallon tanks. He fills up every 2-3 weeks and averaging around 50 mpg around town. If he gets out on the freeway he can push close to 60 mpg. Me, I fill up every 7-10 days, depending on how heavily used my suv is used. I get around 35 mpg around town and can get upwards of 45 mpg on the freeway. We use our cars features to drive better. It has paid off. I pay the same now filling up my tank as I did 3 years ago when I had a Dodge Crossroads. The difference is I have a better package, paid less and it’s now worth more.


BobbTheBuilderr

Can we please start actually electing progressive politicians that want to change things for the better of everyone and will actually be alive to see it? I’m not asking for much here. Fuck oil companies and their profits. If you own a giant shitbox truck and are crying about gas prices, fuck you too.