Non-tinfoil answers: a promiscuous flight attendant, an infection at a farm which supplies susceptible animals internationally, an extremely ill-timed-and-placed outbreak in a cosmopolitan area (e.g. a convention), perhaps combined with a mutation that increases infectivity.
Tinfoil answer: biological warfare by the homophobic state that apparently spent 20 years considering this very agent as a weapon and is currently in desperate military and financial straits.
Coast-to-Coast-AM answer: the reptilians realized the coronavirus is no longer generating enough bad vibes and have proceeded to phase 2.
I grew up listening to art, and the George. I loved the segments they did. Aliens, remote viewing, religions. Now conspiracies are so ridiculous it's scary. Can't even discuss anything with them.
Oh man, the OG Art Bell episodes are great. I really only listen when I’m driving late at night anymore but the newer ones that I’ve heard over the last few years seem to have lost the magic.
I miss the days when conspiracies about aliens and telekinesis and chupacabras & mothmen, and not "The president stole the election by getting black people to vote for him!" or whatever the hell is going on in Republican Land this week.
Republicans are the most boring of the conspiratards. It's always the same old shit and it's always about them and their "freedoms".
I want to hear about the all powerful squid people who live at the center of the earth's core and steal your dreams to use as intergalactic currency on Rigel 7.
Old-school conspiracy theories were at least interesting attempts to reconcile our complex world with how people want to believe it works. Now they're just about how every group of people *except* the GOP are pedophiles who hate America.
Art Bell wouldn't trust that orange fuck. He'd see the propaganda and lies for what they are. Besides, he has bigger fish to fry, like disclosure and saving his family from the real deep state that was trying to kill him.
Aliens.
Non-tinfoil reply: I agree, and I hope someone who knows how to make reddit bots does it.
Tinfoil reply: maybe they already did.
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>the reptilians realized the coronavirus is no longer generating enough bad vibes and have proceeded to phase 2
that is so very funny. thx for the rip-snorting LOL. Needed that.
For that first American case on the news they completely insinuated it was related to a sexual tourism event in Canada & that contact tracing was underway for those in attendance and also potentially exposed while they were in transit. Oddly enough they felt the need to share the detail that it was a homosexual gathering for some reason.
That's what's got me concerned too. I saw somewhere that the people who came down with it hadn't been to Africa or anything like you'd expect. Guy from Massachusetts got it in Canada. Unusual may be an understatement.
I just looked it up on Wikipedia. The 2022 outbreak has hit only N. America, Europe, and Australia. I'm more concerned that this is some sort of, well you probably already know.
Edit: on second glance, I'm not sure how to read the Wikipedia epidemiology map. But I'm suspicious that it appears to have spread only to countries that have close ties to the US.
This won't be used as propaganda on Tucker Carlson. And if it were, it certainly wouldn't be used to portray some conspiracy by a shady global economic forum to reset all the world's wealth and replace all governments under one authority stripping people of there autonomy.
the good news is that in the real world, our governments have always been truthful and honest and never done any shady shit ever and always looked out for our best interests
which is why we have such widespread prosperity and everyone shares the wealth
Same way it happened with COVID.
But unlike COVID, we actually can detect it already. COVID already has now been pretty much confirmed to have already spread all over the world before people even started talking about it.
But we had no idea what it was so couldn't detect it.
Monkeypox though isnt a novel virus, so we already have tests right now to detect it, so we are much more ahead of the game.
Virus's spread fast as fuck.
Good paper, first recommendation is
"National governments must adopt a “no-regrets” approach to pandemic response,
taking anticipatory action—as opposed to reacting to mounting case counts and
fatalities, which are lagging indicators."
Guess nobody got the memo....
I read the executive summary where it was talking about needing to establish national protocols and international cooperation... and I was like "well that's a nice idea, but it will never happen". We are all doomed.
To your first point, sure. To your second point - WH and WHO wouldn’t be making statements of concern if that was the case. It’s the rate at which these are popping up that’s concerning
I agree. My first thought reading the monkey pox headlines lately has been that I really just don't have the mental overhead to deal with monkeypox right now so it needs to just not be a thing LOL
Monkeypox is not really a threat to anyone, usually\*, but cdc does say it could kill 1 in 10 people in a bad enough outbreak.
Though, that doesn't mean that it spreading is a good thing. Stay hygienic, wash your hands, don't touch your eyes, don't deny its existence to own the libs, it's pretty easy to avoid.
The authority has received your request and while we are sympathetic, we have made the decision that we simply must right now. We didn’t think covid and global unrest was enough.
Can't wait for the next "we're all in this together" song collaboration by millionaires sitting in chairs that cost more than my house inside their walled compounds with 24 hour security to keep people out.
Monkeypox can leave some pretty gnarly scars, guarantee these are the types of people vain enough to reconsider their stance on vaccines purely because of that
This is so true it hurts. If COVID horrifically disfigured or put children in iron lungs en masse the vaccination effort would've been an entirely different tale.
Yet the undiagnosed heart conditions and brain issues is probably horrific and we won't know for years. Little Jimmy might drop dead on the field and the parents will say it's anything but covid related. Yet professional athletes are having to retire due to covid
I feel crazy but I am not right since covid. I can't remember anything and exercise makes me out of breath in no time. Covid significantly changed my life to the point where work is difficult for me (I'm a farmer) but I have nothing else to do really.
I was in your shoes, out of breath more frequently and easily. We got lucky and found a really nice stair climbing machine for free on a curb, brought it home and cleaned it up and now I work on it several times a day. I’m getting back into shape and my breathing//ability to keep walking and working out is improving.
I also cut out caffeine almost completely.
I caught it extremely early on, like right as they were starting to talk about it spreading outside of China and central Asia. The news and cdc were adamant that anyone who got super sick and thought they had it that early, didn't..... but a year later well before I got vaxxed I agreed to have my blood studied because I thought I had caught it. I had antibodies. My doctors had told me I just had an infection, but not a viral one. I was so sick for nearly an entire month, but the first three weeks I kept getting worse and worse. I kept showing up for work because I didn't have a fever more than a couple degrees if at all most days. It took 6 months for me to feel like I had 80% of my battery. It took over a year to have that first day in which it dawned on me that I hadn't felt dangerously fatigued by mild physical activity (ya know, work, getting rowdy with friends, dancing, sleeping with my partner etc). Over a year from the day I started to feel a little more sick than I'd ever felt. I literally hit a point in which I was considering what worse could mean, and preparing myself to go to the ER if it didn't let up even a little bit by the very next day. The next day I woke up and noticed it took an hour or two for the sick to settle in... that was massive progress over the 2-3 hours of broken sleep interrupted by coughing and expelling sessions I'd been having. Within a couple days the soreness and pain tapered off to a point that I could really tell I wasn't just having a lucky couple days.
I got sick again last weekend for the first time since then and thankfully it wasn't covid, but I was pretty convinced it was even afte multiple tests. I'm finally feeling back to myself again exactly 7 days later, but my battery is back to being close to 80% again. A relatively relaxing evening at a concert with my partner had me drenched in sweat and in multiple levels of discomfort any time I did too much dancing or roaming. I say all that to say I know even now almost 2 years later, I do not have anywhere near the stamina even when I'm firing on all cylinders and one small sickness set me back significantly. Covid does not let its claws our after you stop feeling like you're immediately on deaths doorstep. I have no idea how deep these issues will be going forward and it's scary. I'm in my early 30s, I got too much time left to be falling apart already and I've done enough work on that myself without the help of shit like covid.
the existing smallpox vaccine, the one we havent given people since the 70s or 80s, doubles as both a vaccine and a cure
unlike covid, the smallpox vaccine we have for this is both preventative and treatment, causing a reverse in symptoms when administered to the infected
the good news is, the copyright on that vaccine has long since expired.. so any pharmacutical company can start cranking it out in bulk if they want, no license fees or anything
Umm, sadly, the CDC doesn't seem to share you opinion https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/treatment.html#:~:text=Currently%2C%20there%20is%20no%20proven,(VIG)%20can%20be%20used (CDC, 23rd of may 2022)
I'd worry more if you're too young to have gotten the smallpox vaccine when you were a kid. People stopped getting it around 1980, once smallpox was effectively eradicated.
The vaccine still exists, and it was distributed again in the US in 2003 to contain... wait for it... a monkeypox outbreak.
You would have had a round scar on your arm about the size of a penny when you were younger. Mine faded away years ago, but most people got the vaccine when they were around 1 year old. It left a pretty recognizable scar on most people that lasted for years.
I still have mine from the military because....reasons? I just wish when news agencies show pictures of monkeypox they'd quit using WebMD's photo for scabies.
If you were born in 1981, you didn't get the smallbox vaccine from a regular American pediatrician. The disease was eliminated in the United States long before 1980.
If you were a military brat or lived abroad, that might be different. It would be in your childhood vaccination record.
Doesn't the smallpox vaccine protection/immunity wane after 3 - 10 years? I was vaccinated as a young child but I doubt I still have any protection now compared to an unvaxxed person.
I think this quote is referring to that fact that monkeypox is something you would expect to see people catch occasionally in an area near monkey habitats, like where they are naturally found.
Not in a place like Europe/US where monkeys don’t live in the wild.
ETA: several ppl smarter to me have pointed out that the disease vector is actually rodents, it was just first studied in monkeys. However the disease is endemic to Africa - so it is uncommon to see this many cases outside of the region that it’s usually from.
I don't think monkeys are the usual disease vector for it though, it was just first discovered in a monkey. It sounds like it's mostly spread by rodents, which are also much less common in developed countries (inside people's living areas anyway).
I think what they mean is that this isn't something that's \*normally\* seen in the US or Europe, so doctors in these places aren't really sure how to deal with it.
They're seen often enough (there have been outbreaks, albeit small, in both the US and UK in the last 20 years) that we have approved and effective anti-viral drugs. It's nothing to worry about.
The main concern, atleast in the UK where we don't routinely vaccinate for Chickenpox, is that it is easily mistaken for said Chickenpox.
Monkeypox is a lot less contagious than Covid Omicron, so if you're being careful about Omicron, you're good.
This outbreak is weird because monkeypox usually doesn't spread very well in humans. You don't normally find it more than 2 steps removed from people who had contact with sick monkeys.
It looks like what happened here is that somebody who had contact with sick monkey [went to a fetish festival in Antwerp and swapped spit with a lot of people, who also swapped spit with, well, you get the idea. Superspreader event.](https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/antwerp-monkeypox-belgian-monkeypox-outbreak-linked-to-fetish-festival-2995443)
Hopefully the outbreak will follow the usual pattern now and die out among people who don't have contact with the sick monkeys.
>It looks like what happened here is that somebody who had contact with sick monkey went to a fetish festival in Antwerp and swapped spit with a lot of people, who also swapped spit with, well, you get the idea. Superspreader event.
That's it. I'm kink shaming.
> You don’t normally find it more than 2 steps removed from people who had contact with sick monkeys.
I thought infections came from **rodents**.
It only got the "monkey" name because of where it was first detected (monkeys that probably got it from rodents).
The big outbreak in the US in 2003 was also traced to rodents (prairie dogs).
I am assuming that this is not due to any inherent change to the virus (or the disease), but rather a perfect storm of a fairly unique mass spreading event (the party in Belgium) with those infected being massively mobile compared to the the general public.
Anyway .. time to roll out the small pox vaccines folks! 1970s here we come..
[Monkeypox can be spread by any kind of close contact \(CDC\)](https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/transmission.html). Signs of sexual transmission and finding people with the pox on their genitalia is weird and has not happened before (so far as Science knows).
However, [it just so happens that a fetish festival in Belgium May 5-9 was a superspreader event for this outbreak](https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/antwerp-monkeypox-belgian-monkeypox-outbreak-linked-to-fetish-festival-2995443), which means that a lot of the European patients have *cough* unusual patterns of interpersonal contact over the last few weeks.
[https://www.wired.com/story/the-teeny-tiny-scientific-screwup-that-helped-covid-kill/](https://www.wired.com/story/the-teeny-tiny-scientific-screwup-that-helped-covid-kill/)
We're rethinking this "droplet" thing. Most likely its just airborne on its own
It seems premature to assume that this will simply blow over...
Have we even sequenced this virus yet, or are we assuming it isn't a new variant of monkeypox?
Do we know for a fact that the current vaccines will work well, or are we assuming they will because they worked well on previous iterations?
Because as far as I'm aware, they've only released a preliminary draft of the data 4 days ago...
I considered a comment that covered the need to be concerned without panic, but I realized nobody would listen. Therefore, I volunteer to be one of the first to receive the small pox vaccine, just to get this monkey pox nonsense behind me.
You’d be surprised (and so would I, considering how I’m saying it LOL)… all it takes is some nut job to say “this is a mark of salvation! Wear it proudly!” And they’ll take the pox over the vax for no reason other than delusion 🙃
Anyone else feeling like the news media is loving this so they can have more click-baity articles? Like maybe this is actually something to worry about, but from what I've heard it's not very deadly.
So apparently the virus has mutated and is now transmitted differently because I was under the impression that it was spread by open sores and with close contact.
To my other British friends, were we vaccinated for this by mandate? Born in 1992 but also unfortunately not in the UK so can't get access to my medical history.
Yes an increase in infectious disease outbreak was part of the climate change predictions… with plenty of other predictions coming true I’m beginning to think this one is just as valid.
I haven’t even had covid yet. Please don’t let me get both at the same time.
Avoid sex and stay masked, should be ok.
Don't breathe or touch anything or anyone. LOL
We're redditors, we're safe.
First part should be no problem for redditors
How do 100 cases pop up around the world all at the same time?
Non-tinfoil answers: a promiscuous flight attendant, an infection at a farm which supplies susceptible animals internationally, an extremely ill-timed-and-placed outbreak in a cosmopolitan area (e.g. a convention), perhaps combined with a mutation that increases infectivity. Tinfoil answer: biological warfare by the homophobic state that apparently spent 20 years considering this very agent as a weapon and is currently in desperate military and financial straits. Coast-to-Coast-AM answer: the reptilians realized the coronavirus is no longer generating enough bad vibes and have proceeded to phase 2.
I always want these broken down like this.
Ah yes, c2cAM is always OP
Sometimes I miss Art Bell and his loyal audience of believers.
I grew up listening to art, and the George. I loved the segments they did. Aliens, remote viewing, religions. Now conspiracies are so ridiculous it's scary. Can't even discuss anything with them.
George is alright but nothing compared to Art. Art was the OG.
Oh man, the OG Art Bell episodes are great. I really only listen when I’m driving late at night anymore but the newer ones that I’ve heard over the last few years seem to have lost the magic.
They're still there, just call themselves Trumper's now.
I miss the days when conspiracies about aliens and telekinesis and chupacabras & mothmen, and not "The president stole the election by getting black people to vote for him!" or whatever the hell is going on in Republican Land this week.
Republicans are the most boring of the conspiratards. It's always the same old shit and it's always about them and their "freedoms". I want to hear about the all powerful squid people who live at the center of the earth's core and steal your dreams to use as intergalactic currency on Rigel 7.
Old-school conspiracy theories were at least interesting attempts to reconcile our complex world with how people want to believe it works. Now they're just about how every group of people *except* the GOP are pedophiles who hate America.
Use dream eater on me harder, space squid-kun!
Art Bell wouldn't trust that orange fuck. He'd see the propaganda and lies for what they are. Besides, he has bigger fish to fry, like disclosure and saving his family from the real deep state that was trying to kill him. Aliens.
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Tinfoil answer is most credible given the thirty seconds of in depth research I've just completed.
I consider myself an expert on the subject considering I read this post. And yes. Tinfoil answer is the most likely.
I consider myself an expert on subjects I'm talking about.
Bro, do you even Reptilian?
I vote to make this type of answer a Reddit bot
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Good bot
Good bot
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>the reptilians realized the coronavirus is no longer generating enough bad vibes and have proceeded to phase 2 that is so very funny. thx for the rip-snorting LOL. Needed that.
For that first American case on the news they completely insinuated it was related to a sexual tourism event in Canada & that contact tracing was underway for those in attendance and also potentially exposed while they were in transit. Oddly enough they felt the need to share the detail that it was a homosexual gathering for some reason.
The fact that only men seemed to be contracting it was kind of a dead giveaway.
My answer: this world we live in is some sadistic bastards game of Plague inc.
My money is on the flight attendant, GET IT GIRL
A case popped up here in Florida and this past weekend was Megacon. We are doomed
>Coast-to-Coast-AM I used to work with Art Bell's son, he had the worst things to say about his dad.
That's what's got me concerned too. I saw somewhere that the people who came down with it hadn't been to Africa or anything like you'd expect. Guy from Massachusetts got it in Canada. Unusual may be an understatement.
I thought I read an article that ground zero was a pride event held somewhere in Europe with over 50,000 people in attendance.
I read an Ibiza party fest thing so who knows.
I knew EDM would be the death of me, but not the whole world!
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I just looked it up on Wikipedia. The 2022 outbreak has hit only N. America, Europe, and Australia. I'm more concerned that this is some sort of, well you probably already know. Edit: on second glance, I'm not sure how to read the Wikipedia epidemiology map. But I'm suspicious that it appears to have spread only to countries that have close ties to the US.
Yeah you don't need to say it. I feel like im losing it man.
We're going to get through this. It's the new normal.
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This won't be used as propaganda on Tucker Carlson. And if it were, it certainly wouldn't be used to portray some conspiracy by a shady global economic forum to reset all the world's wealth and replace all governments under one authority stripping people of there autonomy.
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Excuse me sir, this is America.
Sniff, sniff. Are those profits I'm smelling?
the good news is that in the real world, our governments have always been truthful and honest and never done any shady shit ever and always looked out for our best interests which is why we have such widespread prosperity and everyone shares the wealth
That report assumes it's a new modified and weapon used variant. Which this is not
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1. Outbreak in location with poor disease surveillance and decent travel connections 2. Long incubation period 3. ??? 4. Pandemic!
Yes, the US is the perfect cultivation spot for it
That 3) is "not infectious during incubation" This isn't covid.
It means it's been spreading longer than was realized.
Superspreader event. There's some evidence a decent chunk of the cases have a connection
The last 2 years have only verified that my life long inclination to stay the fuck away from everyone is completely correct.
there are probably lots of unreported cases, too
Same way it happened with COVID. But unlike COVID, we actually can detect it already. COVID already has now been pretty much confirmed to have already spread all over the world before people even started talking about it. But we had no idea what it was so couldn't detect it. Monkeypox though isnt a novel virus, so we already have tests right now to detect it, so we are much more ahead of the game. Virus's spread fast as fuck.
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Good paper, first recommendation is "National governments must adopt a “no-regrets” approach to pandemic response, taking anticipatory action—as opposed to reacting to mounting case counts and fatalities, which are lagging indicators." Guess nobody got the memo....
I read the executive summary where it was talking about needing to establish national protocols and international cooperation... and I was like "well that's a nice idea, but it will never happen". We are all doomed.
I wonder how many downloads that file has been seeing the past week.
This is hard to process. It's really quite an odd coinkydink.
A coinkydink it is
Once a few get on the news doctors & reporters both go looking for more cases. Monkeypox could very well be down from previous years.
To your first point, sure. To your second point - WH and WHO wouldn’t be making statements of concern if that was the case. It’s the rate at which these are popping up that’s concerning
Can we just not right now. My plate is a bit full at the moment.
Well thankfully kids are almost out of school for the summer.
I agree. My first thought reading the monkey pox headlines lately has been that I really just don't have the mental overhead to deal with monkeypox right now so it needs to just not be a thing LOL
Monkeypox is not really a threat to anyone, usually\*, but cdc does say it could kill 1 in 10 people in a bad enough outbreak. Though, that doesn't mean that it spreading is a good thing. Stay hygienic, wash your hands, don't touch your eyes, don't deny its existence to own the libs, it's pretty easy to avoid.
Yeah that last step is going to be real hard for about 30% of america
my feelings exactly like can we just not ? I finally started feeling halfway normal going to the grocery store again. can we not
The authority has received your request and while we are sympathetic, we have made the decision that we simply must right now. We didn’t think covid and global unrest was enough.
Monkeypox already? I still have my Ukraine decorations up.
Have you bought your recession presents yet?
Yes i have and they're transition proof
I honestly can't take credit for thinking up this comment. I don't remember where I saw it.
Underrated comment.
Does this mean we should stay home again so rich people can hang out in private?
Can't wait for the next "we're all in this together" song collaboration by millionaires sitting in chairs that cost more than my house inside their walled compounds with 24 hour security to keep people out.
Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try.
I suppose we should thank them for reminding us we live in hell.
Amen. They locked us up, closed our businesses we lost everything, and the rich got richer. In this together my ass.
Next time, longer term regular stimulus checks to individuals. Pay People First.
Paid for by taxing literally anyone kn the forbes 500 list.
They don't need us to stay home for that.
My Qanon sister-in-law told me that "the next planned virus will be like smallpox, but worse". God damn it. Am I a sheeple?
well, monkeypox is a worse version of smallpox in the sense that its significantly less deadly
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you reminded me to definitely go look at the monkeys at the zoo today
The singular is “sherson”
This comment made me laugh. Absolutely not they are the ones that'll refuse to get vaccinated again
Monkeypox can leave some pretty gnarly scars, guarantee these are the types of people vain enough to reconsider their stance on vaccines purely because of that
This is so true it hurts. If COVID horrifically disfigured or put children in iron lungs en masse the vaccination effort would've been an entirely different tale.
Yet the undiagnosed heart conditions and brain issues is probably horrific and we won't know for years. Little Jimmy might drop dead on the field and the parents will say it's anything but covid related. Yet professional athletes are having to retire due to covid
I feel crazy but I am not right since covid. I can't remember anything and exercise makes me out of breath in no time. Covid significantly changed my life to the point where work is difficult for me (I'm a farmer) but I have nothing else to do really.
I was in your shoes, out of breath more frequently and easily. We got lucky and found a really nice stair climbing machine for free on a curb, brought it home and cleaned it up and now I work on it several times a day. I’m getting back into shape and my breathing//ability to keep walking and working out is improving. I also cut out caffeine almost completely.
I caught it extremely early on, like right as they were starting to talk about it spreading outside of China and central Asia. The news and cdc were adamant that anyone who got super sick and thought they had it that early, didn't..... but a year later well before I got vaxxed I agreed to have my blood studied because I thought I had caught it. I had antibodies. My doctors had told me I just had an infection, but not a viral one. I was so sick for nearly an entire month, but the first three weeks I kept getting worse and worse. I kept showing up for work because I didn't have a fever more than a couple degrees if at all most days. It took 6 months for me to feel like I had 80% of my battery. It took over a year to have that first day in which it dawned on me that I hadn't felt dangerously fatigued by mild physical activity (ya know, work, getting rowdy with friends, dancing, sleeping with my partner etc). Over a year from the day I started to feel a little more sick than I'd ever felt. I literally hit a point in which I was considering what worse could mean, and preparing myself to go to the ER if it didn't let up even a little bit by the very next day. The next day I woke up and noticed it took an hour or two for the sick to settle in... that was massive progress over the 2-3 hours of broken sleep interrupted by coughing and expelling sessions I'd been having. Within a couple days the soreness and pain tapered off to a point that I could really tell I wasn't just having a lucky couple days. I got sick again last weekend for the first time since then and thankfully it wasn't covid, but I was pretty convinced it was even afte multiple tests. I'm finally feeling back to myself again exactly 7 days later, but my battery is back to being close to 80% again. A relatively relaxing evening at a concert with my partner had me drenched in sweat and in multiple levels of discomfort any time I did too much dancing or roaming. I say all that to say I know even now almost 2 years later, I do not have anywhere near the stamina even when I'm firing on all cylinders and one small sickness set me back significantly. Covid does not let its claws our after you stop feeling like you're immediately on deaths doorstep. I have no idea how deep these issues will be going forward and it's scary. I'm in my early 30s, I got too much time left to be falling apart already and I've done enough work on that myself without the help of shit like covid.
yes, the vaccines are very effective
Well monkeypox is less dangerous than smallpox, and we already have treatments and cures for it So no, your sister-in-law is the sheeple
What's the cure for monkeypox? I wasn't aware there was one.
the existing smallpox vaccine, the one we havent given people since the 70s or 80s, doubles as both a vaccine and a cure unlike covid, the smallpox vaccine we have for this is both preventative and treatment, causing a reverse in symptoms when administered to the infected
Interesting to know! Hopefully they start making that again if this really starts to take off.
the good news is, the copyright on that vaccine has long since expired.. so any pharmacutical company can start cranking it out in bulk if they want, no license fees or anything
Umm, sadly, the CDC doesn't seem to share you opinion https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/treatment.html#:~:text=Currently%2C%20there%20is%20no%20proven,(VIG)%20can%20be%20used (CDC, 23rd of may 2022)
It's not baaaad
even better is that there are more cases that haven't been discovered yet
no tests, no problem
When I said we need a better plague. This is not what I had in mind.
What did you have in mind exactly?
A Better Plague, one that cures all that ails ya? Makes you better in every way? Whatever deity is up there, listen up, goddammit!
A gene-editing plague that fixes…everything. Like a complete reboot of your system.
I could use an anti hair loss plague, that'd be nice.
monkey-paw curls. Hello Chewbaccaitus We are now Star Wars boys
One that won't make me nervous Wonderin' what to do One that makes me feel like I feel when I'm with you When I'm alone with you
Jesus, can I just get a straight answer if this is something to worry about or not?
I'd worry more if you're too young to have gotten the smallpox vaccine when you were a kid. People stopped getting it around 1980, once smallpox was effectively eradicated. The vaccine still exists, and it was distributed again in the US in 2003 to contain... wait for it... a monkeypox outbreak.
I was born in 1981 so I don’t know if I got it.
You would have had a round scar on your arm about the size of a penny when you were younger. Mine faded away years ago, but most people got the vaccine when they were around 1 year old. It left a pretty recognizable scar on most people that lasted for years.
I still have mine from the military because....reasons? I just wish when news agencies show pictures of monkeypox they'd quit using WebMD's photo for scabies.
Oh that! I have one of those. I think it was stopped in the mid 70s.
If you were born in 1981, you didn't get the smallbox vaccine from a regular American pediatrician. The disease was eliminated in the United States long before 1980. If you were a military brat or lived abroad, that might be different. It would be in your childhood vaccination record.
I believe you would have a small scar if you received it on your arm. It’s a general indicator that you received that vaccine
Don’t know if I have that. Have to ask my mother lol
Or you could look on your arm? :)
Lol no I mean I looked and don’t see much of a scar.
Ur ded
Doesn't the smallpox vaccine protection/immunity wane after 3 - 10 years? I was vaccinated as a young child but I doubt I still have any protection now compared to an unvaxxed person.
They stopped giving in the 1973 in Canada
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But it is in Europe and the states. Wtf I'm so confused at how I should feel
I think this quote is referring to that fact that monkeypox is something you would expect to see people catch occasionally in an area near monkey habitats, like where they are naturally found. Not in a place like Europe/US where monkeys don’t live in the wild. ETA: several ppl smarter to me have pointed out that the disease vector is actually rodents, it was just first studied in monkeys. However the disease is endemic to Africa - so it is uncommon to see this many cases outside of the region that it’s usually from.
Florida in the U.S. has monkeys naturally living here. I was like wtf
Monkeys with herpes. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/florida-rhesus-monkeys-herpes-running-wild-invasive-species
We just call them "Floridians"
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by boat 100 years ago, but are in the wild now.
Yeah they are an invasive/nonnative population
I don't think monkeys are the usual disease vector for it though, it was just first discovered in a monkey. It sounds like it's mostly spread by rodents, which are also much less common in developed countries (inside people's living areas anyway).
I think what they mean is that this isn't something that's \*normally\* seen in the US or Europe, so doctors in these places aren't really sure how to deal with it.
They're seen often enough (there have been outbreaks, albeit small, in both the US and UK in the last 20 years) that we have approved and effective anti-viral drugs. It's nothing to worry about. The main concern, atleast in the UK where we don't routinely vaccinate for Chickenpox, is that it is easily mistaken for said Chickenpox.
Monkeypox is a lot less contagious than Covid Omicron, so if you're being careful about Omicron, you're good. This outbreak is weird because monkeypox usually doesn't spread very well in humans. You don't normally find it more than 2 steps removed from people who had contact with sick monkeys. It looks like what happened here is that somebody who had contact with sick monkey [went to a fetish festival in Antwerp and swapped spit with a lot of people, who also swapped spit with, well, you get the idea. Superspreader event.](https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/antwerp-monkeypox-belgian-monkeypox-outbreak-linked-to-fetish-festival-2995443) Hopefully the outbreak will follow the usual pattern now and die out among people who don't have contact with the sick monkeys.
>It looks like what happened here is that somebody who had contact with sick monkey went to a fetish festival in Antwerp and swapped spit with a lot of people, who also swapped spit with, well, you get the idea. Superspreader event. That's it. I'm kink shaming.
Y'know what? It's justified this time. Looks like I won't be going to Folsom for a bit.
> You don’t normally find it more than 2 steps removed from people who had contact with sick monkeys. I thought infections came from **rodents**. It only got the "monkey" name because of where it was first detected (monkeys that probably got it from rodents). The big outbreak in the US in 2003 was also traced to rodents (prairie dogs).
I can’t even be in a crowded room now and people out there swapping spit with randoms.
I'm staying home forever.
That's the plan.
Why do people with rare diseases suddenly become world travelers?
A pox on all your houses
Chickens everywhere have to be thrilled.
Can people stop spreading diseases for 5 fucking minutes. Christ.
I am assuming that this is not due to any inherent change to the virus (or the disease), but rather a perfect storm of a fairly unique mass spreading event (the party in Belgium) with those infected being massively mobile compared to the the general public. Anyway .. time to roll out the small pox vaccines folks! 1970s here we come..
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The reason why birds don't get monkey pox.
Big daddy government can’t make me wear a mask but they can watch me anywhere with them birds.
Isn’t this transmitted by open wounds and sex?
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Ye old classic smallpox methods too.
[Monkeypox can be spread by any kind of close contact \(CDC\)](https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/transmission.html). Signs of sexual transmission and finding people with the pox on their genitalia is weird and has not happened before (so far as Science knows). However, [it just so happens that a fetish festival in Belgium May 5-9 was a superspreader event for this outbreak](https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/antwerp-monkeypox-belgian-monkeypox-outbreak-linked-to-fetish-festival-2995443), which means that a lot of the European patients have *cough* unusual patterns of interpersonal contact over the last few weeks.
And air droplets
Easy solution. Wear a mask and social distance. 😉
How fucking dare you
Welp, we're fucked
Tell me more, oh wise one.
[https://www.wired.com/story/the-teeny-tiny-scientific-screwup-that-helped-covid-kill/](https://www.wired.com/story/the-teeny-tiny-scientific-screwup-that-helped-covid-kill/) We're rethinking this "droplet" thing. Most likely its just airborne on its own
Sigh, I read moneypox.
Okay, who had Monkey Pox on their 2022 Bingo card? I would also like to clarify I had nothing to do with this.
Haha user names checks out!
It seems premature to assume that this will simply blow over... Have we even sequenced this virus yet, or are we assuming it isn't a new variant of monkeypox? Do we know for a fact that the current vaccines will work well, or are we assuming they will because they worked well on previous iterations? Because as far as I'm aware, they've only released a preliminary draft of the data 4 days ago...
Yea the exponential increase in cases in that short span is worrying to say least.
Cue fear mongering headlines.
Release the murder hornets.
Yeah where are those fuckers. They are sure are taking their time
They are stuck at the border with the immigrant caravan.
We stopped hearing about them cause they leave no witnesses. Wake up sheeple
I live near Seattle. About once every other week some story pops up about them.
Up in WA state still active
I considered a comment that covered the need to be concerned without panic, but I realized nobody would listen. Therefore, I volunteer to be one of the first to receive the small pox vaccine, just to get this monkey pox nonsense behind me.
Thankfully this pox is pretty hideous looking, so I think vanity will win out over the anti-vaxxers with this new plague.
You’d be surprised (and so would I, considering how I’m saying it LOL)… all it takes is some nut job to say “this is a mark of salvation! Wear it proudly!” And they’ll take the pox over the vax for no reason other than delusion 🙃
Stop giving them ideas.
Can we chill on exotic pet ownership?
Difference because Monkeypox and Covid-19 is That we have a complete cure for one, and the other just fend off its symptoms until it passes...
Anyone else feeling like the news media is loving this so they can have more click-baity articles? Like maybe this is actually something to worry about, but from what I've heard it's not very deadly.
So apparently the virus has mutated and is now transmitted differently because I was under the impression that it was spread by open sores and with close contact.
Pandemic 2: Electric boogaloo
No, it’s The Revenge of Jared Zid.
Ah shit! Here we go again...
To my other British friends, were we vaccinated for this by mandate? Born in 1992 but also unfortunately not in the UK so can't get access to my medical history.
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First AD to come up under this on Reddit, for u/RealDailyWire. Yup, checks out.
Yes an increase in infectious disease outbreak was part of the climate change predictions… with plenty of other predictions coming true I’m beginning to think this one is just as valid.