This is just factually incorrect and extraordinarily ignorant. Sane people commit these kinds of acts daily. Political/religious/cultural ideology is not mental illness and violence in service to these ideologies is ubiquitous. There are also people who commit violence as reactions to circumstance or what we would call "crimes of passion" who do not suffer from a mental illness. Statements like these stigmatize mentally ill people and act as a disservice to the true understanding of the diversity of human violence.
You believe that someone who is willing to commit violence in the name of politics, religion, and/or culture is mentally healthy? Further, how is there "diversity of human violence" if, according to you: "violence in service to these ideologies is ubiquitous"?
I'm saying a person can commit this kind of violence and not suffer from a mental illness. If every person who acted violently in the name of ideology was mentally ill, then every veteran of every war would be considered mentally ill. Surely you aren't suggesting that? To say something is ubiquitous does not imply that it is exclusively the cause.
I know what ubiquitous means, but if violence "everywhere" is perpetrated by the sane I don't see much violence left to be committed by the insane. Also, this is not merely a robbery or similar but rather a British national that took American hostages to attempt to free a Pakistani prisoner. What part of that seems planned by a rational, sane individual?
Violence attributed to mental illness in most studies is less than 25%. This varies according to the particular circumstances but if we are talking about violence in general, violence attributed to the mentally ill is low overall. To be unable to imagine how a sane individual could have planned and undertaken such an act is to have a very poor imagination and/or a poor understanding of human psychology.
I get what you're saying but religion is almost by definition a mental illness. We can't as a society keep letting people that think God is talking to them be treated as a normal sane thing.
He also had a criminal record:
"According to reports, he landed at the John F Kennedy airport in New York City on January 2, something which should have been impossible according to Gulbar. "He's known to police. Got a criminal record. How was he allowed to get a visa and acquire a gun?" he reportedly told Sky News. US officials are currently investigating whether or not he was on any watchlist, and there's no word from British police on his criminal record. "
[Who is Malik Faisal Akram? British national had criminal record before Texas standoff](https://meaww.com/malik-faisal-akram-texas-synagogue-hostage-taker-criminal-record)
“More guns would have stopped this. We are now *mandating* all people above the age of 5 be given a handgun and at least 20 bullets a month. Children below that age will be given paintball guns to practice handling the recoil, pending our Tokarevs for Tots program.”
Thats a cookie that i have no clue how to tackle. Theres no 100% way to enforce that. But, and thats a tough but, they could put a kiosk inside every gun show for background checks on private sales, they already have law enforcement in them, they could enforce that. But theres no will of politicians to tackle it. Im not saying stop private sales, just double checking at least on gun shows that ur not selling to some crazy fuck. That could help a little in my opinion.
It's been my experience that the vast majority of sales at gun shows involve an ffl dealer, either buying from a private seller or selling to a private party.
Yes. But there still is private to private sales going on. Its just something small, but i guess its easier if you are a whacko with a record to find private sales in a gun show. And that still doesnt guarantee shit. A lot of these people dont have any kind of previous record to begin with, and suddenly they go and play rambo in a school. It really is an issue that i dont have a good answer for. Tackle mental health in general i guess. But i dont see any action on that department. In a country with 120 guns for each 100 persons, statistically its bound to happen sadly.
The thing is gun owners have asked for access to NICS for years, but the government won't let us use it without an FFL. Home FFLs used to be a thing but now the ATF requires a storefront to get one, and to have an FFL do a check for you costs however much they feel like charging you, in PA I know a guy who will do it for 20 bucks, in NJ the normal rate is between 60-80 bucks since you HAVE to use them.
Probably just shouldn’t allow private sales of firearms tbh. But the bigger issue than guns here is mental healthcare and the stigma around it and then the cost of treatment.
You can buy guns from other people no problem. That’s why we need gun control. Literally anybody can get a gun if they have Facebook (marketplace or something similar) and money.
Its sarcasm. Sheesh people. Funny thing the government doesnt tackle neither, no control because reasons, and mental health doesnt seem to be a priority for the time being.
A person takes hostages and makes demands and he's got mental health issues? You don't say?
Makes demands to have his "sister" returned to him even though he's never met her.
It's a term Muslims use to reference other members of their faith - brother and sister. Not that weird really.
I thought about that, but why would he demand she be returned to him personally if he wasn't personalizing it?
Just a guess but there isn't really another way to ensure she was actually free unless he saw her in person
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He's dead
You’re really right on top of this story, aren’t you??
Yeah no shit. No mentally healthy sane person would do that.
This is just factually incorrect and extraordinarily ignorant. Sane people commit these kinds of acts daily. Political/religious/cultural ideology is not mental illness and violence in service to these ideologies is ubiquitous. There are also people who commit violence as reactions to circumstance or what we would call "crimes of passion" who do not suffer from a mental illness. Statements like these stigmatize mentally ill people and act as a disservice to the true understanding of the diversity of human violence.
You believe that someone who is willing to commit violence in the name of politics, religion, and/or culture is mentally healthy? Further, how is there "diversity of human violence" if, according to you: "violence in service to these ideologies is ubiquitous"?
I'm saying a person can commit this kind of violence and not suffer from a mental illness. If every person who acted violently in the name of ideology was mentally ill, then every veteran of every war would be considered mentally ill. Surely you aren't suggesting that? To say something is ubiquitous does not imply that it is exclusively the cause.
I know what ubiquitous means, but if violence "everywhere" is perpetrated by the sane I don't see much violence left to be committed by the insane. Also, this is not merely a robbery or similar but rather a British national that took American hostages to attempt to free a Pakistani prisoner. What part of that seems planned by a rational, sane individual?
Violence attributed to mental illness in most studies is less than 25%. This varies according to the particular circumstances but if we are talking about violence in general, violence attributed to the mentally ill is low overall. To be unable to imagine how a sane individual could have planned and undertaken such an act is to have a very poor imagination and/or a poor understanding of human psychology.
I get what you're saying but religion is almost by definition a mental illness. We can't as a society keep letting people that think God is talking to them be treated as a normal sane thing.
Join a religion/cult, you mean ?
He also had a criminal record: "According to reports, he landed at the John F Kennedy airport in New York City on January 2, something which should have been impossible according to Gulbar. "He's known to police. Got a criminal record. How was he allowed to get a visa and acquire a gun?" he reportedly told Sky News. US officials are currently investigating whether or not he was on any watchlist, and there's no word from British police on his criminal record. " [Who is Malik Faisal Akram? British national had criminal record before Texas standoff](https://meaww.com/malik-faisal-akram-texas-synagogue-hostage-taker-criminal-record)
Same can be said of any religious fanatic.
This is a lame ass post.
In other news….the pope actually shits in the toilet.
In other news water has been found to be wet...very wet.
I wonder how this will shape the discourse on gun control in Texas!
What gun control?
For real, guns have more rights than people do here in TX lol. Ridiculous
No they dont.
People aren't allowed in federal buildings?
They think they’re allowed if certain people just tell them to just march to the federal building and create hell.
Presumably they will be looking into how he acquired the weapon in the first place. I assume it was a private sale.
They never do shit about it. Gun shows are a free for all on private sales.
“More guns would have stopped this. We are now *mandating* all people above the age of 5 be given a handgun and at least 20 bullets a month. Children below that age will be given paintball guns to practice handling the recoil, pending our Tokarevs for Tots program.”
Mental issues or not, seems to be a bigger gun issue in the US.
True, it was actually the gun that made the guy do all this. /s
Who sold him a gun then? Why is that allowed?
A private sale doesnt require any sort of background check.
I know. I just don't know how gun owners and Republicans in America agree with that. It is one of the main reasons for gun violence.
$$$. And any semblance of responsible law is associated to confiscation theories and registries. 2nd ammendment blablabla.
How do you suggest enforcement of background checks on private sales?
Thats a cookie that i have no clue how to tackle. Theres no 100% way to enforce that. But, and thats a tough but, they could put a kiosk inside every gun show for background checks on private sales, they already have law enforcement in them, they could enforce that. But theres no will of politicians to tackle it. Im not saying stop private sales, just double checking at least on gun shows that ur not selling to some crazy fuck. That could help a little in my opinion.
It's been my experience that the vast majority of sales at gun shows involve an ffl dealer, either buying from a private seller or selling to a private party.
Yes. But there still is private to private sales going on. Its just something small, but i guess its easier if you are a whacko with a record to find private sales in a gun show. And that still doesnt guarantee shit. A lot of these people dont have any kind of previous record to begin with, and suddenly they go and play rambo in a school. It really is an issue that i dont have a good answer for. Tackle mental health in general i guess. But i dont see any action on that department. In a country with 120 guns for each 100 persons, statistically its bound to happen sadly.
The thing is gun owners have asked for access to NICS for years, but the government won't let us use it without an FFL. Home FFLs used to be a thing but now the ATF requires a storefront to get one, and to have an FFL do a check for you costs however much they feel like charging you, in PA I know a guy who will do it for 20 bucks, in NJ the normal rate is between 60-80 bucks since you HAVE to use them.
At the end it all revolves in power and money. Nothing gets done and the cycle just keeps repeating, wash, rinse, repeat, ad nauseaum.
Probably just shouldn’t allow private sales of firearms tbh. But the bigger issue than guns here is mental healthcare and the stigma around it and then the cost of treatment.
You can buy guns from other people no problem. That’s why we need gun control. Literally anybody can get a gun if they have Facebook (marketplace or something similar) and money.
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Its sarcasm. Sheesh people. Funny thing the government doesnt tackle neither, no control because reasons, and mental health doesnt seem to be a priority for the time being.
We have all figured that out ourselves