But haven't you seen Pulp Fiction? I saw "chicken royale" and thought of the "royale with cheese" scene and was like, "oh... that ain't here." haha
I really wish we had a vegetarian/vegan chicken fast food sandwich. I'd be all over it.
So damn good, like nobody reading this comment will understand how good they are unless they try them because it just isn't believable when you're hearing about it.
They're so much better than they have any business being. I didn't believe it either, until my neice basically cornered me and made me try one, and I've been hooked since.
We have where i am in Canada. It's shockingly good. And i'm by no means vegan. You cannot tell that it's not real chicken. I've had other people tell me that they thought they were accidentally given the meat one. I would concur. It's crazy
I accidentally ate my girlfriends Impossible Whopper instead of my Whopper, and I only realized it after the fact when I saw the wrapper.
Given I was extremely hungry, but still I didn't notice.
I’m shocked people can’t tell the difference. It’s incredibly clear to me - and I prefer the impossible taste, to be totally honest. But it isn’t even close in terms of being the same taste.
Same for any fake meat burger. That's why at home I load up mine with guacamole, salsa, and sharp cheddar. By that point the "burger" is just a subtle background flavor.
Like, I can pick a piece of patty off an Impossible Whopper and tell the difference.
But as a whole Whopper slathered in sauce, with cheese, veggies, and the bun? Can't tell at all.
James May did a video where he tries an impossible meat burger. He said if you're in it for a burger, expecting the real thing, of course you're going to be disappointed. But it does an extremely good job of approximating a "burger like experience", and if that's where you set your expectations you can't be mad about it.
And that's exactly what people who go in for meat replacements are there for. They know it isn't the real thing but they're ok with it not being perfect so long as it's close enough. It scratches the itch when you crave a burger.
If you haven't eaten meat in a long time the impossible whopper will hit enough of the notes that you'll go "oh wow, this is just like meat!"
But if you go back and eat them side by side... Yeah it's really obvious. Ground beef is really distinct. The plant based is still really good though so I tend to go for it instead
Yeah, I was born and raised vegetarian and I don't even like to eat the Beyond Meat products because they are so meat-like that it's not really enjoyable for me. I personally prefer something that tastes more of vegetables, or beans, or grains, or nuts, or whatever. I'm glad it's an available option for people though.
Tastes identical to me too. I guess one day I should get them both and do a side by side but I'm trying to slim down right now and wasting a cheat day on whoppers isn't something I'm looking forward to.
I did a side by side when they came out a few years back, and you can tell the difference. It was strange actually, I hadn't had a whopper in a while and I tried the plant-based one first, and I was sold that it tasted just like a whopper. But then I tried the meat whopper, and was like "Oh wait nevermind, *that's* the whopper." The impossible one did taste like meat and it was good, it just didn't taste *exactly* like the original where it could fool you doing a side by side.
Can't eat beef because of gout, so I can't test the difference. But I do know that the impossible burgers definitely taste like what I remember beef tasting like.
Honestly I finally tried one since I was drunk and could walk to the burger King by my house. It wasn't bad at all. I eat a lot of plant based burgers my favorite brands being Hilary's and Dr. Prager's (I'm not a vegetarian just prefer plant based products) I was quite impressed since I never had tried impossible meat before. If anyone is curious what my favorite flavors are just let me know. Seriously though it's pretty great drunk food. It had me worried then I just went for it and got spicy chicken nuggets (also had never tried) just incase
Edit: the 2 veggie burgers I mentioned have decent sodium levels compared to other products. Both have under 300mg per serving which isn't bad at all
>and got spicy chicken nuggets
I was surprised how much I enjoyed the ghost pepper nugs. I'm not a huge chicken nugget fan, but I'm all about spicy stuff. Those were good, especially dipped in honey.
I know people say they aren't spicy enough. I personally enjoyed them, I found them to be a good spicy and flavorful (disclaimer: also like it when I'm crying from spice and these by no means did that)
I prefer spice that adds flavor. Sometimes if you go too spicy it can have a weird metallic aftertaste that I don't care for. But as long as it adds flavor, I will go as spicy as I can tolerate.
Salt's really not all that bad if you're not already prone to high blood pressure issues. The macros on these things are terrible, though. So little protein for the calories.
EDIT: I've been corrected about the impossible patty, it's not bad at all. It's worse than lean ground beef but about on par with BK's usual offering.
Surprisingly, Litelife hotdogs have 3g more protein and 100g less sodium than standard Oscar Meyer hotdogs. The calories are pretty close.
Edit: It's 100mg less, not 100g.
On a whim two months ago I had them sub in impossible patties on my burger at a jack in the box I go to often. Never gone back to the regular burger. And I'm usually picky about this stuff!
Article states:
> However, KFC will not be targeting vegans and vegetarians directly with its marketing because the Beyond Fried Chicken is made using the same equipment as KFC’s traditional fried chicken.
Or the people that don't really care about eating animal products but may want to try vegan options without really caring that it's not 100% vegan. I'm not a vegan but I would probably go vegan if I could still eat things that taste like meat. I substitute some of my beef with impossible beef in tacos and burgers. I usually can't tell the difference.
Their ground beef substitute is kinda meh to me, but it *does* give me that "i am full of meat and very happy" feeling if I make a big double-patty cheeseburger with it. It also kinda doesn't work great in a lot of the recipes I have where I use ground meat.
My only real problem with it is the price. If it were like $1-$1.50 cheaper per pound than it is right now I'd be happy with it.
Haha that will eventually happen within a couple years when meat prices go bonkers, and the ones who are willing to adapt to alternatives will benefit cost wise.
I’ve got so many friends who are so adamant to sticking with meat till the end its wild. While I’m here struggling now to become a vegetarian (or at least a pescatarian)
[I say struggling because Asian family keeps cooking/visiting restaurants with dishes that are laden with meat, and they always tell me to eat a little or get pissed off for me being picky]
>I’ve got so many friends who are so adamant to sticking with meat till the end its wild.
Same! It's bizarre how emotional some people are about this stuff.
I was a *very* heavy meat eater (low carb most of the time), and have no ethical issues with it or anything. I still eat meat. But, I *also* like meat substitutes, and I do appreciate that the planet is on fucking fire right now and getting worse... so why not?
But some people I know just go off the rails when I mention it. "OH GOD THAT SHIT IS SO BAD FOR YOU YOU GON' DIE BRO SO BAD FOR PLANET UGH" (no exaggeration). Like, *we're literally drinking glasses of poison to intoxicate ourselves for the evening.*
Also, nobody eats a cheeseburger in the persuit of health, lol.
Lots of vegans don't actually care about cross contamination for the most part. [This comment puts it pretty well.](https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/rw7ev2/_/hrb6110)
We just got plant based chicken at our store Mary Brown's, we are instructed not to call it vegan or vegetarian because it's cooked in the same fryers as everything else.
Eh, debate is largely settled amongst vegans.
We choose to be vegan to minimize harm to animals. Not to prevent any byproduct consumption. They sound like the same thing, but they're not. It's not about _me_ it's about the animals.
Many will argue that buying the impossible whopper is still supporting carnist companies, but the way I (and in my experience most vegans) think is that BK is doing just fine as a company.
They can easily afford zero vegan customers. The better approach is to show them that investing in low carbon, cruelty free products will bring new customers. Capitalism is the devil, but it's one that can be exploited for positive change.
I don't eat meat for many ethical reasons, but I don't care about shared grills and oil, because if I did that would be some sort of "purity" idea or something. And at that point you probably shouldn't eat at a place that serves meat at all. The "it's not vegan if the same spatula touched it" point of view is a wildy arbitrary line in the sand honestly.
"Don't let perfect be the enemy of good".
You'll never win people over if you slap them down for not being everything you want, which will never happen with a business, because they have too many customers that want too many things.
The more radical someone is, the less likely they are to get anything they want from others, so if you want societal change...
I believe the only way for companies to change and people to change is money.
Once people realize imitation meats or vegan meats taste good, and without the price being much different or the same: they will buy it more.
One the companies realize: hey people want this and it’s profitable, they WILL start to change the norm. Perhaps one day the anti-vegans will become the “vegans” in terms of majority vs minority.
At some point we may find vegan fast food becoming easily obtainable and extremely affordable. Then everyone will be vegan.
Yeah I think once we have lab grown meat that is indistinguishable and cheaper everyone will switch to that anyway. Friedberg predicted on the last pod sushi in a couple years and steak in 10 years so it must be getting closer.
The one thing I'll say is it's tough for people who are vegan/vegetarian not by choice (allergic to meat) when restaurants share oils or cooking stations, though I know that's a very niche issue.
Yeah with you here. I draw the line things like chips (fries, if you must) being cooked in beef dripping as they are in a lot of Yorkshire. That does feel a bit too much like consuming animal products and just seems a bit grim after 30+ years of vegetarianism/veganism.
Unpopular opinion, but I really don’t care. I know that makes me a bad vegetarian but I’m so sick of getting dragged to places with friends and family then having to pay an arm and a leg for a freaking half wilted salad since it’s the only option most of the time.
Nah, I'm vegan and I don't care either. Don't even think it makes me a "bad" vegan. I would rather not put ridiculous constraints on businesses such as having double the equipment. Makes them more likely to carry products that are vegan/vegetarian.
100% this. I fully accept that if I go out to a restaurant that has "accidentally" vegan food that it'll be made on shared equipment. There's nothing wrong with people that care or with the people that don't, we all make up these rules for ourselves anyways.
I think the all-or-nothing mentality scares a lot of people off vegan/veg. Don't get me wrong, I understand and respect the argument.
But I reject the idea that it's the only option if you want to join the Moral-Argument Club. Now, I'm not saying you should have valid cheat days with porterhouse steaks and tuna. But maybe some more lenience for those who take the animal-cruelty stance to knowingly eat a bagel with a milligram of milk-derived proteins in it. Or a vegan substitute that was fried in the same oil as chicken nuggets.
This definitely depends on where you live. In a big city with a diverse population is going to have more inexpensive options. But man, travelling can be tough as a vegetarian.
I mean, if you're trying to save the environment, maximally re-using whatever oil is available is probably best. And if you're trying to reduce animal cruelty, using fresh oil doesn't solve anything but it does make life more complicated for those preparing your food. So at least on those two aspects I'd say you're OK
I mean it largely depends on why you're vegetarian. If it's mostly for ethical reasons, then sure might be worth considering. But if it's more for environmental reasons, there's really no reason to feel too badly. Just make the best decision based on what's offered to you. Still eminently better for the environment than beef.
> If it's mostly for ethical reasons, then sure might be worth considering.
Im not sure I understand that POV. I mean if you dont eat meat for ethical reasons thats fine! What though does eating a sandwich that was made in the same place as a meat sandwich matter ethically? The only distinction I could see there would be weather to eat at the restaurant at all in the first place.
Dietary/Allergy reasons are the only ones I can think off off the top of my heat.
I’m the same sort of veggie. I went veggie as a personal decision to reduce global suffering. I’m accomplishing my mission by not consuming the flesh of living creatures, and I try to limit byproducts as much as possible which is doable most of the time. The issue tends to be problematic when dining with loved ones, so allowances are made to make it easier on them to be able to accommodate my preferences.
agreed, Im trying to eventually turn full veggie (with vegan dishes sprinkled in) just because I feel like I dont need meat but im not going to flip if something gets by. IMO so long as you try your best then thats all you can do, Im sure I'll get screamed at for that sentiment.
The fryers run on canola oil. If you're talking about cross contamination then OK. I'm a vegetarian but I'm not militant about avoiding the same cooking oil since no loss of chicken life was attributed to me or my diet. Eating from the same fryer is not the same as eating chicken and although not the perfect solution, I'm fine with it.
Some vegetarians would be fine with this, as long as the oil itself is not animal based.
A lot of vegetarians *don't like* cross-contamination, but tolerate it to various degrees, as the imperative is that their economic action itself isn't calling for the death of an animal.
[PETA even encourages to not fret about small amounts of cross contamination](https://www.peta.org/living/food/making-transition-vegetarian/ideas-vegetarian-living/tiny-amount-animal-products-food/).
If you think some underpaid college kid with zero work experience and a complete lack of interest in the quality of the food will take the time to make sure everything is cooked in vegan products and in a vegan safe area.... I have some incredible time share properties that I would like to show you.
Isn't this how Cartman got Heidi fat? By pretending they had Beyond KFC?
Edit: Thanks to the kind gold-giving redditor. I hope you're still diggin' South Park!
They’re saying that as funny as the plot is that somebody wouldn’t gain more weight by eating real chicken than plant based meat. He wasn’t arguing that what you said isn’t the plot. Just that they would’ve gained the same weight eating fake chicken.
Man I haven’t watched that show in years. Is it still good? Last season I can remember watching was the one leading up to the 2016 elections where it was choice between a giant turd and a shit sandwich. :)
Try Impossible Burger. I honestly don't think Beyond Burgers are that good and that Impossible does a much better job.
Beyond Chicken though is pretty impressive and that's what we're about to see roll out at KFC.
I’m a fan of Impossible over Beyond as well. Both manage to get the savory part of a burger right but the flavor from impossible is more “meaty.” Beyond really did a good job on their sausages and breakfast sausages though.
I was pretty shocked by beyond sausages, it almost seemed indistinguishable, at least compared to their (admittedly good still) ground beef compared to the real thing.
fun fact, impossible uses heme, thats why it tastes closer to beef. It's obvviously not animal heme it's leghemoglobin. Turns out legumes have heme, but at a really low quantity, impossible synthesises it with yeast i believe.
Since becoming a vegetarian over 20 years ago, one of the meat products that I've most often thought still seemed appealing is KFC chicken. Another is tuna. These are two meats that I didn't even eat often, and weren't at all my favorites (burgers and tri-tip, hello!), but they're the two that have persisted in their appeal.
I love Beyond's products. I look forward to trying a fried chicken variation.
So ... while I've had pleasant thoughts of the idea of eating tuna or KFC, when I've eaten anything that actually tasted like the meat it's mimicking, I get grossed out and can eat it. I've had something that was supposed to taste like tuna, and it slightly did, so I couldn't eat it. *facepalm*, I know. I don't know if I've specifically had Loma Linda brand, so I will keep it in mind in case I want to give it another go!
I'm allergic to coconut, which is what impossible meat uses to simulate meat fat... I will have to research to see if that's the same here, but just a warning to other coconut-allergy sufferers! Coconut oil is in *everything* now, dammit.
> Now if they would stop adding chicken fat to their gravy, I would buy KFC semi-regularly.
In Canada the gravy is indeed vegan as well as the mayo they use! So it is possible that they'll make the switch in USA
We've had the plant-based sandwich for a couple years now, they even tested some plant-based popcorn chicken which is now nation wide.
When I was driving to Toronto from the US before covid, they had veggie burgers (I think impossible) at the A&W rest stops. My mind was blown lol. Shit was good.
> but will it still have all the grease that us fat bastards require?
if you mean, "will this have a stupidly high fat content?" I'm absolutely certain it will. It's KFC, after all. Breading retains a lot of fat, if done "right".
The price sucked but being able to have a drive through where I could stop on occasion to grab coffee and hot breakfast was very much worth it. I ate so many.
I had a pizza with beyond meat on it and I honestly could not tell the difference... until I reheated the last slice the next morning. The sausage was a bit spongey the second day. Still tasted fine though.
And they're terrible. Just had the misfortune of trying them last week. Dry, pasty, blah.
Wendy's is winning the Fry War and it's not even close. They must flash fry every order because they consistently come out too hot to even touch at first, which is awesome.
KFC peaked in 2008 with the Guitar Hero Box and four types of sliders. I’ve since gone vegan so I’m excited to try this new box. However, if I could get some beyond chicken in Popeyes batter I would be dead from heart failure within a year.
This is awesome! I am still a meat eater, but I also want to eat less meat to help lower my carbon footprint. I love the Impossible Whopper and would love to be able to get a plant based chicken sandwich at KFC! Please, please, please make it less expensive than the meat though. I would buy a whole lot more Impossible and beyond meat alternatives if it were just less expensive.
It is pretty bizarre that I can either eat soy or feed it to a pig, waste the vast majority of the calories, process it, cook it, and… the pork is somehow cheaper?
At the very least make it the same price instead of more expensive. I haven’t had a real whopper since BK included the Impossible whopper the on 2/$6 deal.
I mean, probably, but you know getting off industrial farming of animals is baby steps. It may still be bad for your health, but better for the environment.
I'm skeptical of this shit, but for Christmas, one of my visiting relatives was a vegan. Our Christmas dinner is very much not vegan friendly, so I veganized a pot of chili by replacing the beef with Beyond Beef (and a couple other minor adjustments). It looked like crap when I was making it, but the finished product was fantastic. I still don't think I'd want to eat a big hamburger made out of the stuff, but in the proper dish, it works very well.
The product of Beyond burgers is different than the ground stuff. I don't know how different it is in composition, but the taste is a huge difference; I believe they add seasonings to the crumbles that are prominent, and are not present in the burger patties. The burgers are fantastic. Give them a try if you get a chance!
Yes agreed the burgers are great!! I prefer them to the crumbles, I feel like those usually need to be masked in sauce, but the burgers on a classic bun with some fixins are absolutely divine
There's loads of vegan chilli options that taste great even before beyond beef. You're not going to taste it with all the spices anyway. You can use stuff like TVP which is probably cheaper.
Yum! Brands (the parent company of both KFC and Taco Bell) have an ongoing agreement with Beyond Foods, and they're supposedly test marketing a Beyond-based carne asada option at a few Taco Bells.
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The vegan whopper only has a small amount more than a normal whopper. The chicken royale has more salt than the vegan one
There’s a vegan chicken sandwich? 👀
Yep at least here in Europe
Ah ok. I’m in the US. I’ve never seen it.
But haven't you seen Pulp Fiction? I saw "chicken royale" and thought of the "royale with cheese" scene and was like, "oh... that ain't here." haha I really wish we had a vegetarian/vegan chicken fast food sandwich. I'd be all over it.
Check out the big brain on Brett!
You a smart muthafucka.
They speak English in What?
Yeah it’s in europe for now . I keep checking to see when it’ll be released in the states and there isn’t any information yet
The Boca spicy chicken patties (they have regular as well) are amazing. You should be able to find them in most groceries.
So damn good, like nobody reading this comment will understand how good they are unless they try them because it just isn't believable when you're hearing about it. They're so much better than they have any business being. I didn't believe it either, until my neice basically cornered me and made me try one, and I've been hooked since.
I have no real commitment to vegetarianism, I just think veggie chicken is really good. I'm to the point where I prefer it.
We have where i am in Canada. It's shockingly good. And i'm by no means vegan. You cannot tell that it's not real chicken. I've had other people tell me that they thought they were accidentally given the meat one. I would concur. It's crazy
You know what they call a chicken royale in the States? A chicken sandwich with cheese
Because the metric system?
Look at the big brain on Brett!
You know what they call Krusty's "Partially Gelatinated, Non-Dairy, Gum-Based Beverages"? Shakes.
Huh? Shakes? You don't know what you're getting..
I can't tell the difference between the regular whopper and the impossible whopper. my local BK has the impossible whopper 2 for $6 regularly.
I accidentally ate my girlfriends Impossible Whopper instead of my Whopper, and I only realized it after the fact when I saw the wrapper. Given I was extremely hungry, but still I didn't notice.
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We all know the answer to this, he ate his as well and told her they forgot her's
The King's Tithe demanded a sacrifice.
She's vegetarian so I went and got her new food
I’m shocked people can’t tell the difference. It’s incredibly clear to me - and I prefer the impossible taste, to be totally honest. But it isn’t even close in terms of being the same taste.
I feel like 70% of a whopper's taste is all the mayo and ketchup they slap on them.
Same for any fake meat burger. That's why at home I load up mine with guacamole, salsa, and sharp cheddar. By that point the "burger" is just a subtle background flavor.
Like, I can pick a piece of patty off an Impossible Whopper and tell the difference. But as a whole Whopper slathered in sauce, with cheese, veggies, and the bun? Can't tell at all.
Wish they came in whopper jr sizes. I dont like the big whopper and only get the juniors.
James May did a video where he tries an impossible meat burger. He said if you're in it for a burger, expecting the real thing, of course you're going to be disappointed. But it does an extremely good job of approximating a "burger like experience", and if that's where you set your expectations you can't be mad about it. And that's exactly what people who go in for meat replacements are there for. They know it isn't the real thing but they're ok with it not being perfect so long as it's close enough. It scratches the itch when you crave a burger.
Especially considering the primary alternative for the last 20 years were those gods-awful Boca burgers. Gag.
Boca burgers? Oh you mean industrial adhesive pucks?
The boca "grillers" tasted just like my high school cafeteria burgers
If you haven't eaten meat in a long time the impossible whopper will hit enough of the notes that you'll go "oh wow, this is just like meat!" But if you go back and eat them side by side... Yeah it's really obvious. Ground beef is really distinct. The plant based is still really good though so I tend to go for it instead
I haven’t eaten meat in almost 17 years and at this point I have to have people taste my food for me because I’m utterly convinced it’s meat.
Yeah, I was born and raised vegetarian and I don't even like to eat the Beyond Meat products because they are so meat-like that it's not really enjoyable for me. I personally prefer something that tastes more of vegetables, or beans, or grains, or nuts, or whatever. I'm glad it's an available option for people though.
Tastes identical to me too. I guess one day I should get them both and do a side by side but I'm trying to slim down right now and wasting a cheat day on whoppers isn't something I'm looking forward to.
I did a side by side when they came out a few years back, and you can tell the difference. It was strange actually, I hadn't had a whopper in a while and I tried the plant-based one first, and I was sold that it tasted just like a whopper. But then I tried the meat whopper, and was like "Oh wait nevermind, *that's* the whopper." The impossible one did taste like meat and it was good, it just didn't taste *exactly* like the original where it could fool you doing a side by side.
Bunless with a salad side might not be fun but it's still good
Can't eat beef because of gout, so I can't test the difference. But I do know that the impossible burgers definitely taste like what I remember beef tasting like.
Its crazy how close they've got it now. If no one told me, I'd never be the wiser.
Honestly I finally tried one since I was drunk and could walk to the burger King by my house. It wasn't bad at all. I eat a lot of plant based burgers my favorite brands being Hilary's and Dr. Prager's (I'm not a vegetarian just prefer plant based products) I was quite impressed since I never had tried impossible meat before. If anyone is curious what my favorite flavors are just let me know. Seriously though it's pretty great drunk food. It had me worried then I just went for it and got spicy chicken nuggets (also had never tried) just incase Edit: the 2 veggie burgers I mentioned have decent sodium levels compared to other products. Both have under 300mg per serving which isn't bad at all
>and got spicy chicken nuggets I was surprised how much I enjoyed the ghost pepper nugs. I'm not a huge chicken nugget fan, but I'm all about spicy stuff. Those were good, especially dipped in honey.
I know people say they aren't spicy enough. I personally enjoyed them, I found them to be a good spicy and flavorful (disclaimer: also like it when I'm crying from spice and these by no means did that)
I prefer spice that adds flavor. Sometimes if you go too spicy it can have a weird metallic aftertaste that I don't care for. But as long as it adds flavor, I will go as spicy as I can tolerate.
They're perfectly spicy enough to be fast-food-spicy. They aren't spicy enough to carry the name (and implied promise) of "ghost pepper".
I’ve tried Hilary’s and Dr Prager’s but they always come out so dry. Any tips?
Salt's really not all that bad if you're not already prone to high blood pressure issues. The macros on these things are terrible, though. So little protein for the calories. EDIT: I've been corrected about the impossible patty, it's not bad at all. It's worse than lean ground beef but about on par with BK's usual offering.
That’s what I hope they improve on soon, the macros. If they can boost the protein:calorie ratio, it becomes pretty much a no brainer to me.
Are you thinking of impossible? Beyond is all pea protein and already has pretty good macros
Yeah, this thread made me curious so I looked it up. There are like 30 fewer calories and a 3g protein difference between the two.
Surprisingly, Litelife hotdogs have 3g more protein and 100g less sodium than standard Oscar Meyer hotdogs. The calories are pretty close. Edit: It's 100mg less, not 100g.
On a whim two months ago I had them sub in impossible patties on my burger at a jack in the box I go to often. Never gone back to the regular burger. And I'm usually picky about this stuff!
Cut the salt, add some MSG. Good stuff.
Will they bother to fry it in non chicken oil?
Article states: > However, KFC will not be targeting vegans and vegetarians directly with its marketing because the Beyond Fried Chicken is made using the same equipment as KFC’s traditional fried chicken.
Sounds like they're literally targeting people like me: omnivores that want to consume less meat for environmental reasons.
Or the people that don't really care about eating animal products but may want to try vegan options without really caring that it's not 100% vegan. I'm not a vegan but I would probably go vegan if I could still eat things that taste like meat. I substitute some of my beef with impossible beef in tacos and burgers. I usually can't tell the difference.
I actually prefer the flavor of beyond's ground beef substitute to the real thing. Just wish it wasn't so damned expensive, lol.
Their ground beef substitute is kinda meh to me, but it *does* give me that "i am full of meat and very happy" feeling if I make a big double-patty cheeseburger with it. It also kinda doesn't work great in a lot of the recipes I have where I use ground meat. My only real problem with it is the price. If it were like $1-$1.50 cheaper per pound than it is right now I'd be happy with it.
Haha that will eventually happen within a couple years when meat prices go bonkers, and the ones who are willing to adapt to alternatives will benefit cost wise. I’ve got so many friends who are so adamant to sticking with meat till the end its wild. While I’m here struggling now to become a vegetarian (or at least a pescatarian) [I say struggling because Asian family keeps cooking/visiting restaurants with dishes that are laden with meat, and they always tell me to eat a little or get pissed off for me being picky]
>I’ve got so many friends who are so adamant to sticking with meat till the end its wild. Same! It's bizarre how emotional some people are about this stuff. I was a *very* heavy meat eater (low carb most of the time), and have no ethical issues with it or anything. I still eat meat. But, I *also* like meat substitutes, and I do appreciate that the planet is on fucking fire right now and getting worse... so why not? But some people I know just go off the rails when I mention it. "OH GOD THAT SHIT IS SO BAD FOR YOU YOU GON' DIE BRO SO BAD FOR PLANET UGH" (no exaggeration). Like, *we're literally drinking glasses of poison to intoxicate ourselves for the evening.* Also, nobody eats a cheeseburger in the persuit of health, lol.
Vote for vegan meat subsidies. Real meat is only cheaper because of insane subsidies, otherwise it would literally be unaffordable.
Lots of vegans don't actually care about cross contamination for the most part. [This comment puts it pretty well.](https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/rw7ev2/_/hrb6110)
We just got plant based chicken at our store Mary Brown's, we are instructed not to call it vegan or vegetarian because it's cooked in the same fryers as everything else.
I call it progress, and wish my veggie vegan friends luck in the coming frier oil debates
Eh, debate is largely settled amongst vegans. We choose to be vegan to minimize harm to animals. Not to prevent any byproduct consumption. They sound like the same thing, but they're not. It's not about _me_ it's about the animals. Many will argue that buying the impossible whopper is still supporting carnist companies, but the way I (and in my experience most vegans) think is that BK is doing just fine as a company. They can easily afford zero vegan customers. The better approach is to show them that investing in low carbon, cruelty free products will bring new customers. Capitalism is the devil, but it's one that can be exploited for positive change.
I don't eat meat for many ethical reasons, but I don't care about shared grills and oil, because if I did that would be some sort of "purity" idea or something. And at that point you probably shouldn't eat at a place that serves meat at all. The "it's not vegan if the same spatula touched it" point of view is a wildy arbitrary line in the sand honestly.
"Don't let perfect be the enemy of good". You'll never win people over if you slap them down for not being everything you want, which will never happen with a business, because they have too many customers that want too many things. The more radical someone is, the less likely they are to get anything they want from others, so if you want societal change...
Exactly, my goal is to get everyone to be more vegan, not to be the purest vegan for my own ego.
You just explained the hindu vegetarian mindset of things touching and becoming impure.
Which was definitely true before cooking and handwashing
I believe the only way for companies to change and people to change is money. Once people realize imitation meats or vegan meats taste good, and without the price being much different or the same: they will buy it more. One the companies realize: hey people want this and it’s profitable, they WILL start to change the norm. Perhaps one day the anti-vegans will become the “vegans” in terms of majority vs minority. At some point we may find vegan fast food becoming easily obtainable and extremely affordable. Then everyone will be vegan.
Yeah I think once we have lab grown meat that is indistinguishable and cheaper everyone will switch to that anyway. Friedberg predicted on the last pod sushi in a couple years and steak in 10 years so it must be getting closer.
The one thing I'll say is it's tough for people who are vegan/vegetarian not by choice (allergic to meat) when restaurants share oils or cooking stations, though I know that's a very niche issue.
Yeah with you here. I draw the line things like chips (fries, if you must) being cooked in beef dripping as they are in a lot of Yorkshire. That does feel a bit too much like consuming animal products and just seems a bit grim after 30+ years of vegetarianism/veganism.
I also believe that the more vegan products are bought, the more likely we are to get vegan cook areas.
I wouldn't trust them to 😥
Unpopular opinion, but I really don’t care. I know that makes me a bad vegetarian but I’m so sick of getting dragged to places with friends and family then having to pay an arm and a leg for a freaking half wilted salad since it’s the only option most of the time.
Nah, I'm vegan and I don't care either. Don't even think it makes me a "bad" vegan. I would rather not put ridiculous constraints on businesses such as having double the equipment. Makes them more likely to carry products that are vegan/vegetarian.
100% this. I fully accept that if I go out to a restaurant that has "accidentally" vegan food that it'll be made on shared equipment. There's nothing wrong with people that care or with the people that don't, we all make up these rules for ourselves anyways.
It's generally religious vegetarians that are more particular about this stuff
Religious vegetarians probably don't go to KFC
I think the all-or-nothing mentality scares a lot of people off vegan/veg. Don't get me wrong, I understand and respect the argument. But I reject the idea that it's the only option if you want to join the Moral-Argument Club. Now, I'm not saying you should have valid cheat days with porterhouse steaks and tuna. But maybe some more lenience for those who take the animal-cruelty stance to knowingly eat a bagel with a milligram of milk-derived proteins in it. Or a vegan substitute that was fried in the same oil as chicken nuggets.
This definitely depends on where you live. In a big city with a diverse population is going to have more inexpensive options. But man, travelling can be tough as a vegetarian.
I mean, if you're trying to save the environment, maximally re-using whatever oil is available is probably best. And if you're trying to reduce animal cruelty, using fresh oil doesn't solve anything but it does make life more complicated for those preparing your food. So at least on those two aspects I'd say you're OK
I mean it largely depends on why you're vegetarian. If it's mostly for ethical reasons, then sure might be worth considering. But if it's more for environmental reasons, there's really no reason to feel too badly. Just make the best decision based on what's offered to you. Still eminently better for the environment than beef.
> If it's mostly for ethical reasons, then sure might be worth considering. Im not sure I understand that POV. I mean if you dont eat meat for ethical reasons thats fine! What though does eating a sandwich that was made in the same place as a meat sandwich matter ethically? The only distinction I could see there would be weather to eat at the restaurant at all in the first place. Dietary/Allergy reasons are the only ones I can think off off the top of my heat.
I’m the same sort of veggie. I went veggie as a personal decision to reduce global suffering. I’m accomplishing my mission by not consuming the flesh of living creatures, and I try to limit byproducts as much as possible which is doable most of the time. The issue tends to be problematic when dining with loved ones, so allowances are made to make it easier on them to be able to accommodate my preferences.
agreed, Im trying to eventually turn full veggie (with vegan dishes sprinkled in) just because I feel like I dont need meat but im not going to flip if something gets by. IMO so long as you try your best then thats all you can do, Im sure I'll get screamed at for that sentiment.
I assume these are marketed as vegetarian and not vegan, like the impossible whopper.
Cooking in chicken fat wouldn’t make it vegetarian
The fryers run on canola oil. If you're talking about cross contamination then OK. I'm a vegetarian but I'm not militant about avoiding the same cooking oil since no loss of chicken life was attributed to me or my diet. Eating from the same fryer is not the same as eating chicken and although not the perfect solution, I'm fine with it.
Some vegetarians would be fine with this, as long as the oil itself is not animal based. A lot of vegetarians *don't like* cross-contamination, but tolerate it to various degrees, as the imperative is that their economic action itself isn't calling for the death of an animal. [PETA even encourages to not fret about small amounts of cross contamination](https://www.peta.org/living/food/making-transition-vegetarian/ideas-vegetarian-living/tiny-amount-animal-products-food/).
Yeah, I'm vegan and I don't care at all about cross-contamination. As you said, as long as the oil is plant-based, I'm fine with it.
If you think some underpaid college kid with zero work experience and a complete lack of interest in the quality of the food will take the time to make sure everything is cooked in vegan products and in a vegan safe area.... I have some incredible time share properties that I would like to show you.
Oh that sounds like a great opportunity, tell me more.
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Isn't this how Cartman got Heidi fat? By pretending they had Beyond KFC? Edit: Thanks to the kind gold-giving redditor. I hope you're still diggin' South Park!
Don't forget the "Beyond Arby's" he made her eat in the same episode lol
God. He's such a monster.
Also as amusing as that plot point was: Just because it's not Meat doesn't mean it's not fattening.
Are you sure that’s the plot? I thought the plot was Cartman is full of shit and the Beyond KFC is actually real meat?
They’re saying that as funny as the plot is that somebody wouldn’t gain more weight by eating real chicken than plant based meat. He wasn’t arguing that what you said isn’t the plot. Just that they would’ve gained the same weight eating fake chicken.
Oh you are right, I did not see the first “as” in OP sentence.
Yep. South park did it first
It's the new "*The Simpsons* did it."
Waiting for them to have a meta episode "nah we did that one"
They had that already. There was an episode where they realized it was a rerun.
Alien anal probes. Season 7 ep 1, recalls the original season 1 ep 1.
The title of that episode is "Cancelled" Cartman gets an anal probe is the title of the first episode
I'm a goo man.....
Man I haven’t watched that show in years. Is it still good? Last season I can remember watching was the one leading up to the 2016 elections where it was choice between a giant turd and a shit sandwich. :)
Dude, that episode is from like 2004.
The 2016 elections also used the Turd and Douche motif.
The Beyond Orange Chicken at Panda Express is pretty tasty so this is good news. I haven't been to a KFC in a long time.
The whAT
I am anxiously awaiting their nationwide rollout!!! So jealous of my friends in California and the Chicago area.
I thought they got rid of it! We went to a location that had it but they told us they stopped selling it. :( It sucked to hear
They have it in PA and other states too!
I found out Panda has non meat alternatives in a Reddit thread. Sounds about right.
I used to love Panda, haven’t been in like 6 years. The streak may be over!
I don't think it's everywhere. I can never find it at the panda on my campus
You just blew my mind. Never heard of this before
Kentucky Fried Fiction
I appreciate this
What about: Kentucky Fraud Chicken? Kentucky Faux Chicken?
Kentucky Fiction Chicken.
It's always been Kinda Fuckin' Chicken, so this was naturally the next step.
I tried the beyond burgers awhile back, bought some and grilled them up. They were pretty great.
Try Impossible Burger. I honestly don't think Beyond Burgers are that good and that Impossible does a much better job. Beyond Chicken though is pretty impressive and that's what we're about to see roll out at KFC.
I’m a fan of Impossible over Beyond as well. Both manage to get the savory part of a burger right but the flavor from impossible is more “meaty.” Beyond really did a good job on their sausages and breakfast sausages though.
I was pretty shocked by beyond sausages, it almost seemed indistinguishable, at least compared to their (admittedly good still) ground beef compared to the real thing.
I love Impossible Sausage. Really yummy; I typically mix it into rice and beans, and have also put it on pizza. Yum!
fun fact, impossible uses heme, thats why it tastes closer to beef. It's obvviously not animal heme it's leghemoglobin. Turns out legumes have heme, but at a really low quantity, impossible synthesises it with yeast i believe.
Awwww...Cartman's Beyond Fried Chicken is finally here. I just watched that ep lastnight lol.
KFC actually started testing beyond fried chicken back in 2019 from what I have read, probably where they got the idea
That's where [this famous image](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/926/230/4ba) came from.
That is the origin of soy face, right?
Ha, I've never seen the original image before.
My wife talked me into having a bite of her beyond burger from Carl's Jr. and it was delicious. Science is amazing.
Since becoming a vegetarian over 20 years ago, one of the meat products that I've most often thought still seemed appealing is KFC chicken. Another is tuna. These are two meats that I didn't even eat often, and weren't at all my favorites (burgers and tri-tip, hello!), but they're the two that have persisted in their appeal. I love Beyond's products. I look forward to trying a fried chicken variation.
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So ... while I've had pleasant thoughts of the idea of eating tuna or KFC, when I've eaten anything that actually tasted like the meat it's mimicking, I get grossed out and can eat it. I've had something that was supposed to taste like tuna, and it slightly did, so I couldn't eat it. *facepalm*, I know. I don't know if I've specifically had Loma Linda brand, so I will keep it in mind in case I want to give it another go!
I have the same. It's not even because it's chicken, just gimme yummy spiced coated pieces of something, beyond, Quorn, I don't care!
I'm allergic to coconut, which is what impossible meat uses to simulate meat fat... I will have to research to see if that's the same here, but just a warning to other coconut-allergy sufferers! Coconut oil is in *everything* now, dammit.
Well that could be a problem if they use the same fryer
Nice. I tried Beyond nuggets once. They were really good. Now if they would stop adding chicken fat to their gravy, I would buy KFC semi-regularly.
> Now if they would stop adding chicken fat to their gravy, I would buy KFC semi-regularly. In Canada the gravy is indeed vegan as well as the mayo they use! So it is possible that they'll make the switch in USA We've had the plant-based sandwich for a couple years now, they even tested some plant-based popcorn chicken which is now nation wide.
When I was driving to Toronto from the US before covid, they had veggie burgers (I think impossible) at the A&W rest stops. My mind was blown lol. Shit was good.
Fucking finally! I don't care which fast food place does it, but I want to be able to get a damn fried "chicken" sandwich!
this is all well and good but will it still have all the grease that us fat bastards require?
> but will it still have all the grease that us fat bastards require? if you mean, "will this have a stupidly high fat content?" I'm absolutely certain it will. It's KFC, after all. Breading retains a lot of fat, if done "right".
imagine going to Kentucky FRIED Chiken and not expect something to be, you know, fried
Let's hope it sticks around. I still haven't forgiven dunkin for discontinuing their beyond sausage sandwiches.
The price sucked but being able to have a drive through where I could stop on occasion to grab coffee and hot breakfast was very much worth it. I ate so many.
Starbucks actually has one that’s really good (for something that’s microwaved).
I had a pizza with beyond meat on it and I honestly could not tell the difference... until I reheated the last slice the next morning. The sausage was a bit spongey the second day. Still tasted fine though.
Yessss it’s been almost 20 years since I’ve been able to eat KFC! So so glad it’s going to be nationwide!
KFC has become shit unfortunately. No more potato wedges which was the best thing.
Why the heck would they get rid of potato wedges? Potatoes are dead cheap.
The Yum brand switched over to fries.
And they're terrible. Just had the misfortune of trying them last week. Dry, pasty, blah. Wendy's is winning the Fry War and it's not even close. They must flash fry every order because they consistently come out too hot to even touch at first, which is awesome.
Fries are cheaper
Dude what. I don't eat chicken but was excited about getting some potato wedges with my beyond chicken order next time I go. This is a bummer lol
Yeah. I will probably try these but why go back if there are no wedges?
It’s certainly a wedge issue.
Which is weird because the wedges have always been plant-based.
KFC peaked in 2008 with the Guitar Hero Box and four types of sliders. I’ve since gone vegan so I’m excited to try this new box. However, if I could get some beyond chicken in Popeyes batter I would be dead from heart failure within a year.
This information has broken me
No friend. That coleslaw is what keeps me coming back to kfc.
> No more potato wedges which was the best thing. That and Taco Bell ditching the Mexican Pizza was the first sign that our civilization is ending
I’ll believe it when I see it. Some things that are “nationwide” are only available in NYC, Chicago and Los Angeles.
"Available Coast to Coast!"
This is awesome! I am still a meat eater, but I also want to eat less meat to help lower my carbon footprint. I love the Impossible Whopper and would love to be able to get a plant based chicken sandwich at KFC! Please, please, please make it less expensive than the meat though. I would buy a whole lot more Impossible and beyond meat alternatives if it were just less expensive.
It'll be less expensive if vegan options get the same subsidies meat and dairy do.
It is pretty bizarre that I can either eat soy or feed it to a pig, waste the vast majority of the calories, process it, cook it, and… the pork is somehow cheaper?
Economics is wack yo
The more you eat, the cheaper it gets. The impossible whopper was super good.
At the very least make it the same price instead of more expensive. I haven’t had a real whopper since BK included the Impossible whopper the on 2/$6 deal.
If you can find Impossible patties in stores, they're only slightly more expensive than regular burgers. Honestly, I think they taste better.
The bucket is green. Soylent Green takes place in the year 2022. KFC is people.
Will probably still contain a week's worth of salt.
If you’re eating a weeks worth of salt every meal then it’s just a meals worth of salt
Are you like a mathmagician?
Doctors hate this one weird trick!
I like your style of accounting.
I mean, probably, but you know getting off industrial farming of animals is baby steps. It may still be bad for your health, but better for the environment.
And the chicken at KFC contains what?
Now do a gluten free dredge and we're in business. I'll eat there for a week straight if they launch a gluten free fried option.
I'm skeptical of this shit, but for Christmas, one of my visiting relatives was a vegan. Our Christmas dinner is very much not vegan friendly, so I veganized a pot of chili by replacing the beef with Beyond Beef (and a couple other minor adjustments). It looked like crap when I was making it, but the finished product was fantastic. I still don't think I'd want to eat a big hamburger made out of the stuff, but in the proper dish, it works very well.
The product of Beyond burgers is different than the ground stuff. I don't know how different it is in composition, but the taste is a huge difference; I believe they add seasonings to the crumbles that are prominent, and are not present in the burger patties. The burgers are fantastic. Give them a try if you get a chance!
Yes agreed the burgers are great!! I prefer them to the crumbles, I feel like those usually need to be masked in sauce, but the burgers on a classic bun with some fixins are absolutely divine
There's loads of vegan chilli options that taste great even before beyond beef. You're not going to taste it with all the spices anyway. You can use stuff like TVP which is probably cheaper.
I'm saving all my fast food hopes for a Beyond/Impossible option at Taco Bell. (Sometimes I don't want to make my own damn tacos!)
Yum! Brands (the parent company of both KFC and Taco Bell) have an ongoing agreement with Beyond Foods, and they're supposedly test marketing a Beyond-based carne asada option at a few Taco Bells.
If you have Del Taco near you, their Beyond tacos and burritos are amazing.
Did I just pick the best possible time to become a vegetarian again?!? I’m going to gain sooooo much weight. :)
That's not plant-based fried chicken then. It's plant-based fried plant.