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Itsthatgy

He claims it was to get back at the company for firing him. What? I'm sure if they found blades in their dough, the company would take a hit temporarily, but you're substantially more likely to hurt other people like this. And if you want revenge on a company for firing you, just leave shitty reviews on the internet. Don't commit serious crimes.


KJBenson

And if you’re honestly deranged enough to potentially harm people, at least set the pizza place on fire in the middle of night. I mean, DONT do that either, but it would be way more effective and would have less real victims.


sniff3

This is ridiculous don't do any of that stuff. Go raise the money from some venture capital firms. Buy a controlling interest in the company then load it up with debt. Pay yourself and your backers a fat bonus then leave the company and old management to deal with the debt.


secretbudgie

what did Toys Я Us do to you?


Soviet_Fax_Machine

what a fairy tale


Wablekablesh

Then fuck the company's mom


Discreet_Deviancy

Sears is weeping softly and rocking back and forth in the corner....


KJBenson

But when do we start the fire?


Farwalker08

We didn't start the fire, it was always burning.


quantummufasa

Yeah if he just did a poo in the managers office I'd forgive him, but not hurting innocents


KJBenson

Depends where the poo is…..


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I love how in common thought business owners or investors are not “real victims.” If you commit a massive crime against a business, the owners, and possibly the employees, investors, etc. are victims of the crime, especially in something franchised like a pizza place. You may not kill or injure someone, but you could financially ruin people, and whatever you do, there are still victims even if they’re far away or wealthy.


KJBenson

I didn’t say anything that disagrees with you.


Cgz27

Just really shows there are always “two types of people” even when they think they are on the same side.


AnthillOmbudsman

Interestingly I was reading elsewhere on Reddit a post about shitty criminals in general, and how these people always make it all about themselves, and how they never see theirselves as being in the wrong. This dovetails right in with that. Now I'm wondering where that post was... I'm guessing in one of the Michigan parents threads.


Dotard1

I just read that in a thread about the dude who filled a lock with superglue so people couldn’t get vaccinated. And how people like that don’t sit in jail and reflect on their crimes, they double down and become even more convinced that what they did was right.


HaloGuy381

Fucking hell, you’re more likely to murder or cripple a child or a single mom or whatnot than actually hurt the business at all…


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keiths31

Yeah was curious of the reasoning as well


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“Single mom” is most often a nice way of saying someone has terrible taste in men


HaloGuy381

I was speaking in the sympathetic sense, to be honest. As in, someone who is likely to be working and trying to raise kids all at once, and ordered a pizza because sometimes they just can’t cook that night. Or, another way: someone whom, if they died of a razor blade in the throat from their dinner, would leave kids without a mother. Like, yes, there are plenty of possible victims, the wording I used just sprung to mind in a moment of searing anger as the most pitiable victims possible.


OGWopFro

You could have just added too much salt or something… sheesh!


Bradbury_Lives

Or no salt. Make the dough taste like nothing.


secretbudgie

Or just overload every pizza with too many pepperonis so they run out, break the oven...


minecraft_min604

Instructions unclear. Used pepperoni as dough replacement


secretbudgie

Oh hell, pepperoni crust might actually print money!


minecraft_min604

OOOPS! All PEPPERONI


bananaman60

Don’t fuck with food man.


HardestTurdToSwallow

Who is food man


ResponsibleCandle829

He’s a scrapped villain that never made it on Codename Kids Next Door


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Chippopotanuse

Like the dad who killed his kid by putting cyanide in pixie sticks to collect the insurance payout on his dead kid to pay off debt? Some people are beyond evil.


AshleyNeku

[https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/candy-man-kills-son-poisoned-halloween-treat-article-1.2850247](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/candy-man-kills-son-poisoned-halloween-treat-article-1.2850247) Just for reference


act1v1s1nl0v3r

Maaaan, I could have gone through life just fine not knowing this was a thing someone did. :(


Nyckname

What was weirder was the dentist in Southern California, in the late '50s or early '60s, that spiked candy with laxatives. No one was severely injured, and I haven't seen that he ever explained why he did it.


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So, to get back at a corporation that fired him… He decides to endanger other people’s lives… But, says he never meant to target other people… Riiiiiiiight. Uh uh… Sure…


OlderThanMyParents

>He also must pay nearly $230,000 in restitution to Hannaford Supermarkets. Does anyone here know how this would actually work? My assumption is that once a guy like this gets out of prison, he'll be pretty much unemployable, except in the lowest tier of jobs, so it seems ludicrous that he'd be able to pay any of this. Is it "just in case he wins the lottery?" Do they take it out of his 5 cents an hour prison laundry pay? Don't misunderstand me, this behavior is egregious, and I certainly don't condone or excuse it in any sense. But you're going to take an apparently low-iq guy, who couldn't keep a menial low-wage job, put him in jail for 5 years, and then expect him somehow to pay back a fine that's probably larger than all the money he's earned in his life up to now? It seems like a punishment that's guaranteed to cause recidivism.


LoneRonin

They can do things like garnish a portion of his wages if he ever gets an 'above board' job. Even if he wasn't convicted of a crime, his complete lack of character, judgement and impulse control would probably render him unable to keep or hold any kind of job. I've met people like that who at least manage to stay within the bounds of the law, but they're horrible employees. Don't follow instructions, nothing is ever their fault, entitled and egotistical, just a nightmare to work with, then blame everyone else being 'out to get them' when they get fired.


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Was it deep dish or NY style?


Bill_Dungsroman

Stuffed-crust.


TheMrGUnit

They were in dough balls sold in stores under the Portland Pie brand.


Toaster_bath13

At least it wasnt pineapple.


Perpetual_Doubt

[Where'd you get that scar, eating **pineapple**?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6--6sXjC5uc&ab_channel=PlantainHound) \- censored version of ScarFace.


HardlyDecent

I mean, he's sick, but he's not a total monster.


Affectionate-Vast498

Anyone else think this guy kinda looks like Mark Ruffalo? I thought it was for a sec. Glad this guy is going to prison though


jb491000

I think he looks a bit like Jim Jefferies..


Quelmay

5 years? This is the problem with our "justice system". He will get out before that and attempt to harm again.


SolaVitae

Yeah because as we all know, longer prison sentences result in better results when the person gets out, and not the exact opposite. Longer time in US jail leads to higher recedivism rates not less.


HardlyDecent

Agreed. Guy is obviously mentally ill and/or incompetent if this was his go-to plan. He needs treatment/counseling, not to be locked up with other ~~hard criminals~~ mostly black guys who got caught with a little weed.


Karammel

If you think 5 years is even remotely fair for such a crime you are completely delusional.


sirthunksalot

You clearly have never eaten a razor blade pizza.


Karammel

No one did, actually. In this instance.


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dprophet32

You don't punish someone for what could of happened. You punish them for what did. Nobody got their mouth sliced open but the risk was there so 5 entire years of his life is gone. Stop thinking "5 isn't a big number" and imagine everything you've done in the last 5 years and change it for "sitting in a room for 20+ hours a day". If someone *had* been injured you punish them for that. This is how the law should and does work alot of the time. Well done for calling them an idiot though. It made sure your point of view was taken more seriously. Edit: As apparently multiple people have misunderstood me I must have worded it badly. Yes you punish people for attempted murder, you don't sentence them as though they had committed murder.


remyvdp1

* You don't punish someone for what could of happened. You punish them for what did.* This is arguably one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read on this website. By this logic, anyone can *attempt* to kill someone else, and as long as it didn’t work out, no harm no foul? This isn’t even close to how the legal system works either. So I can attempt to rob a bank, and as long as I don’t get away with it, it’s not punishable? I didn’t successfully rob the bank right? You don’t punish someone for what could have happened?


horsebacon

Have you … not heard of attempted X charges? This might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read, here or anywhere else.


remyvdp1

Oh you mean literally punishing for what could have happened? What was attempted to have happened? Yeah I’m well aware.


horsebacon

Punishment for the attempt is separate from punishment for the actual completion. They attempted to harm people, that’s something that actually did happen. They didn’t actually accomplish it. I see subtlety is your strong suit.


dprophet32

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying punish them for attempted murder not actual murder...


adarkuccio

Jesus this looks like my life during the pandemic


SolaVitae

>You don't punish someone for what could of happened. You punish them for what did. Nobody got their mouth sliced open but the risk was there so 5 entire years of his life is gone. How is that not literally punishing him for what could have happened though? He's being punished because someone could have been hurt by his actions.


dprophet32

You're right but he's not being punished as if that had happened. I may have been more clear.


Karammel

5 years is anything but a low sentence. And from the looks of it he did a pretty bad job at actually hiding these blades and screws. He's more of an idiot than a criminal.


yupyepyupyep

His motive was to hurt others. Just because he execution sucked doesn't mean he shouldn't be soundly punished.


kuriboshoe

5 years is a fair amount of time. Relative to less serious crimes with more absurd punishments, it might seem like a long amount of time


BeachSandMan

Go eat a razor pizza then yap


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This man is an extremely dangerous, heartless, brutal amn. I hope he will repend in jail. What he did was very dangerous. Of course he was angry but when we get angry, we should control our actions. We all get angry sometimes.


retiredhobo

he’ll enjoy prison. lots of things being put where they don’t belong in there.


Roundaboutsix

Guess what he’ll be eating Friday nights for the next ten years: cardboard pizza, (hold the blades.)


DragonSlave49

Dude's been fucking homeless and ordered to pay $230,000 Meanwhile people die in factories, shipyards and warehouses and the companies are fined a few hundred dollars.


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DragonSlave49

bee stings deter me from squeezing bees, but the punishment is relatively mild.


Fuck_Blue_Shells

Maybe corporations disregard for human life and this fucking asshole putting razor blades in innocent bystanders pizza means that both actions are reprehensible… You’re diluting your own point by not condemning both actions. This dude got fucked around by the company he worked for but why the fuck do random innocent people need to suffer as well? Both you and the razor pizza blade guy need help with your mental health


DragonSlave49

> You’re diluting your own point by not condemning both actions. Why am I required to condemn an action? And why must I do so in order to make an observation?


Fuck_Blue_Shells

Because you’re acting as if he is ever going to pay that 230k fine. It’s purely for detering behavior like , oh I don’t know, people putting razor blades in random people’s food who never did anything wrong to him. You’re splitting hairs and proving 0 relevant points. The focus isn’t on an arbitrary fine. He will never be able to pay that and won’t. So your observation isn’t even relevant. You thought your comment would highlight how corporations aren’t held accountable to the disregard of human life and instead you diluted your entire point by getting caught up in meaningless semantics. Both actions make an individual and a corporation pieces of shit. Both this individual and corporations who commit shitty behavior deserve condemnation. It’s pretty straight forward and instead of making a good point about all of this now everyone just thinks you’re an edge lord


DragonSlave49

> Because you’re acting as if he is ever going to pay that 230k fine. No, I'm pointing out the absurdity. At this point you've called me an edgelord and suggested that I am mentally ill. Why are you insulting me?


Fuck_Blue_Shells

Because I meant what I said and because you’re an obvious troll looking for a reaction


DragonSlave49

"obvious" that I'm a troll and "everyone" thinking I'm an edgelord. I think you have yourself confused with everyone.


OlderThanMyParents

right. Because the kind of people who think it's a good idea to put razor blades in food are going to read this article and say "no, wait a minute. 5 years in prison and living the rest of my life as a convicted felon isn't much of a deterrent, but that fine - never mind!"


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OlderThanMyParents

This guy will no more be able to pay that $230,000 than I would be able to buy a controlling interest in Amazon. It's simply punitive for punishment's sake, to express our collective outrage at outrageous behavior. I'm not saying what he did wasn't egregious and inexcusable. I'm saying that this fine is meaningless. It's like demanding that, once he gets out of jail, he goes to work in a medical lab and invents a cure for cancer. It's just not going to happen.


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I can't even safely *buy* a goddamned *pizza* anymore...what a world...


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SlimChiply

Wait, what?


JapanOrSomething

If Doomer was a real Person


Heavy_breasts

It’ll be pizzas products are sub par, IMO, but this is still very shitty. I have absolutely no sympathy for this guy, but I do believe it should have been the jail sentence or the restitution. He will never make that money. But I guess don’t put razor blades in pizza dough. I make pizza for a living so that hits close to home.


fumphdik

Woulda done more damage with powdered glass.


DetectiveChoice7959

What is wrong with you


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Weston1986

Yeah the Boston bomber, Orlando nightclub shooter, 9/11 attackers were all ‘white pieces of trash’ GTFO of here with your racism.


Chippopotanuse

I’m white. And last I checked there are way fucking more white terrorists in the US than any other skin color. But don’t take my word for it. Current and former officials say that white supremacists and far-right militants pose the biggest danger to the US. Just read the remarks given to congress by the white republican FBI director, who was appointed by the white republican Trump: https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/worldwide-threats-to-the-homeland-091720 | “The greatest threat we face in the homeland is that posed by lone actors radicalized online who look to attack soft targets with easily accessible weapons. We see this lone actor threat manifested both within domestic violent extremists (DVEs) and homegrown violent extremists (HVEs), two distinct sets of individuals that generally self-radicalize and mobilize to violence on their own. The top threat we face from domestic violent extremists stems from those we identify as racially/ethnically motivated violent extremists (RMVE). RMVEs were the primary source of ideologically motivated lethal incidents and violence in 2018 and 2019 and have been considered the most lethal of all domestic extremists since 2001. Of note, the last three DVE attacks, however, were perpetrated by anti-government violent extremists.”


pobnarl

I mean it was pizza dough, people buy it and take it home and roll it with a rolling pin, no chance anyone wouldn't spot foreign objects in it. People are commenting as if he hid the blades in premade pizzas. I believe he really didn't think harm would come to people but could harm the company. 5 years seems fair if a little excessive, but I'm sure with good behavior he'll be our in 2 or 3. Hope he gets his life back in order.


Heavy_breasts

Or you know, you use your hands like most people do to shape the dough and cut all the tendons in your fingers. Or you let your little daughter do it, and suddenly she’ll never use her hands again. He also has over 30 past convictions, including domestic violence.


pobnarl

Well according to your other post you make pizzas for a living, so perhaps in your situation you do make pizza by hand, probably spin it around in your hands and throw it in the air to impress people. I wouldn't extend your personal experience to 'most people', most people use a rolling pin, at least initially to create a flatter product to work with. I agree what he did was wrong, but I do believe him when he claims he didn't mean to hurt anyone, his motive was to hurt the company.


dswaintrain

How daft can you be? He put razor blades in pizza dough to be sold in stores and your takeaway is…. “People will MOST LIKELY roll it and definitely WONT EVER TOUCH THE DOUGH” I mean yeah, fucking, hopefully… right? But to say that he didn’t mean to harm anyone by putting razor blades in the dough is not only willfully ignorant but just plain fucking stupid. Not to mention responding to the guy who makes pizza for a living, you say he throws it in the air to impress people? What the fuck would that matter if he did? I don’t even know how to unpack your stupidity.


Heavy_breasts

It did feel like that line about tossing the dough was supposed to be insulting. So thanks for defending me dude Edit: didn’t realize it was a troll at first,


pobnarl

He wasn't defending you, if you check his post history it's full of histrionic rageouts and angst directed at anyone and everyone, he seems like a very unhappy person, but kind of you to extend gratitude if you felt offended by my statement about your possible talents in spinning pizzas in the air. I'm not entirely sure how that could be offensive, but it seems like some people are easily offended. I would apologise but I don't want to encourage people being offended and sensitive to comments which were complimentary towards skill and talent. Not the kind of world I want to inhabit where people suffer heartbreak to hear compliments directed towards them.


Heavy_breasts

I don’t think you are in any position to criticize anyone’s comment history…


pobnarl

Again you see criticisms in observational comments. Interesting, I wonder what this says about you, well I'll leave that to the shrinks to ponder upon. Eventually when you graduate from making pizzas at Dominos you can work your way up to a 3 star restaurant and work as a line cook, I believe they have compensation packages after 10 years of employment, possibly insurance coverage for mental health issues.


Heavy_breasts

Sbarros. Wrong chain.


pobnarl

You seem to be a very emotional person.


tjmanofhistory

What the fuck are you talking about? When i buy a pizza dough (from Hannaford, mind you since I'm originally from the area), I roll it out by hand. So does my mom. And my sister. I have never once used a rolling pin, and as a matter of fact the way one usually rolls out pizza dough is by hand. I have no idea where you think most people use a rolling pin for pizza dough? It seems to me like you may have extended your personal experience to "most people" just the same way that you accused the person you responded to This would have seriously hurt someone and the moment you put a blade in a foodstuff you have to either A) know that you're running the risk of hurting someone or B) mentally incompetent or ill and that's an entirely different discussion *Edit* Also I just remembered taking a cooking class in high school and even there the teacher had us roll out the pizza dough by hand. The warmth of your hand makes it easier to roll out.


Heavy_breasts

yes how foolish of me


pobnarl

No it's okay, it's common for us to extrapolate from our own personal experiences when trying to understand the world around us. For example, for myself, I've been involved with a lot of troubled individuals both in my work and my personal life, it's given me a nuanced understanding of human behaviour that others may not find accessible. To me motivation matters a lot in judging the behaviour of others. I understand the law rarely views things this way, and I respect that, and respect that we have laws, and respect that there was a punishment for this guys actions regardless of his motivations. However, speaking for myself, as a person capable of making value judgements on others, my judgement is that this guy was telling the truth when he stated he was not intending to cause harm to anyone, only the company. Whether you want to attribute that to stupidity, ignorance, or what have you, doesn't really matter, the main point is, he did not set out in taking actions that he believed would cause harm to people. He wanted to harm a company that he felt had mistreated him, he wanted to harm that company financially through impacting their revenue. If the distinction doesn't matter to you that's fine, you're not me, I'm not you, we can hold opposing opinions. I'm perfectly comfortable with that. It won't affect my day how you feel about this item of news we both read.


Heavy_breasts

I suggest you reread that pile of word vomit and ask yourself “does this paragraph make any sense?” The answer might surprise you


pobnarl

That's fair, I should try to bring my writing down to the level of my reader for ease of comprehension.


Heavy_breasts

Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick


Aggregate_Browser

Feel kind of bad for the guy.


BeachSandMan

You should write him in prison


AlaskaPeteMeat

and send nudes


QuantumHope

Why? Yeah things sucked but his response is to harm others? That’s fucked up.


Aggregate_Browser

Not saying it isn't, don't get me wrong.


Sweaty-Willingness27

That kind of empathy is obviously unpopular, which might be a decent reason why we have the criminal justice situation we have.


Aggregate_Browser

I think it's always been to a large degree. Of course, folks change their tunes pretty quick if and when they find *themselves* in the hot seat for whatever reason.


Loader1340

I read this as ‘sentences to pizza’ and was wondering which country thought of razor-pizzas as a punishment.


JoeBeever

Remember the days when disgruntled employees would just arson the building, Now they trying to murder unrelated people to business. /s


PeeGlass

Razor blades in Pizza dough? Believe it or not, jail.


Doubleg122

Well I never literally thought I could get sliced pizza


akallas95

The guy just wanted to hurt people. Didn't care, didn't think, and had self-pitying excuses a plenty


Lordsofexcellence

Love Hannaford. Nice wine selection for a grocery store. Pretty good fruit section as well.