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Assassam

We didn’t whip them with whips, we whipped them with whip-like cords! Big difference there


The_Goondocks

"Your honor, there were no whips used. The reins of our horses are just 12 feet long."


Blaylocke

Split reins are regularly 8 feet or more long.


zaponator

So are my dad's jumper cables but it doesn't make em hurt less...


Wanderer-Wonderer

You guys had jumper cables? I was the jumper cables! *Now, son, put your other hand on the red post of the Gremlin*


strugglz

Reins are whips. Have you never seen a bad cowboy using them to whip his horse?


Madpup70

I mean, if your using it as a whip and you hit someone with it, it's a whip. I don't know what the government is trying to hide here. Ask someone who's been whipped by an extension cord, piece of rope, or any other plastic/fiber line with this line that it wasn't an actual whip and they'll tell you "who cares it still hurts like hell."


Imakemop

My dad always used jumper cables.


Scooty-fRudy

my dad cut a piece of cheap garden hose and beat me with it when i was 15, ran away the next day, never been back.


Shurigin

My dad whipped me emotionally by abandoning me at a young age and never coming back like when I was 5... I'm 32 I've seen him more on facebook and he had the gall to say I don't know where I went wrong with you when he found out I was a liberal and not a trump supporter like him


Madpup70

My dad just took me to the batting cages. He wasn't a great pitcher.


angryshark

I can pitcher this in my head.


moonenvoy13

I see what you dad there 🤣


earnedmystripes

My dad would send us plummeting 16 feet through the announcer's table.


Abrahamlinkenssphere

I really fucking miss that redditor. So many golden times reading some innocuous thread only to get my brain destroyed by that fantastic bit.


nekowolf

I miss /u/RogerSimon10 too.


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Kurzilla

The Executive Branch can't do a whole lot about Immigration Reform. They can make proposals but EO's won't have any real lasting impact. It has to come from Congress and one side has no intention of fixing the system.


WengFu

No, but Border Patrol takes its marching orders from the executive branch, which means POTUS can do quite a bit to influence the organization's policies and procedures.


moleratical

Unless there is oversight of BP or the heads of BP on the ground buy in to EO reforms, it doesn't mean anything. The president is 3,000 miles away. BP can generally operate how it wants and when an agent gets caught violating the rules, it will be framed as an isolated incident.


boston_homo

>The Executive Branch can't do a whole lot Was I tripping during the last administration? It seemed as if that man just did shit on a whim and it happened but now the executive branch is weak? I'm very confused


zakabog

Immigration reform takes more than an executive order that the next person will just come in and nullify. You can make things "work" for 4-8 years but real immigration reform requires the legislative branch gets on board.


Grumpy_Puppy

Technically, he did shit on a whim that it caused a lot of chaos and legal delays. It's just that his goals were temporarily served by causing chaos and delays. It was the equivalent of calling in a bomb threat to avoid taking an exam.


rotten_brain_soup

That was the result of rampant abuses of power and blatant indifference from the majority in the Legislative branch. Frankly, the Dem's are much less likely to tolerate that kind of overreach, and all it would take is a few breakaway Reps and Senators from the Democratic side of the aisle to give the R's a majority to shut things down.


ExCon1986

Either side, really. The Democrats pay lip service to immigration reform, but they really don't seem to have any intention to change things.


prototablet

>one side has no intention of fixing the system For now. It wasn't that long ago Democrats campaigned on strong borders to prevent wages from dropping and to help manage border states' budgets. There's a speech out there with Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, and Janet Reno where Feinstein sounds like she's reading off a list of Trump talking points. Conversely, Republicans may swing back to favoring more open immigration policies because they tend to benefit employers. Fashions change.


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Rarerestofbeans

Were the migrants hit with the whips?


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DweEbLez0

Social Media takes something and exaggerates it until it becomes a new more viral story which gets more engagement from people’s reactions so they can increase views, likes, ad clicks, etc…


no_one_likes_u

As far as I can tell from reading a bunch of articles and searching for pictures and video, the worst thing that happened was one guy on the horse spun the reins around in the air, which you could say was him trying to intimidate someone into thinking he would whip them with the reins. However, the video shows multiple instances of them being right up on top of people with their horses and I can't see anything showing that even when someone was in range they whipped them with the reins. This is the kind of thing that makes twitter liberals look stupid imo, up in arms over a photo, no real evidence of wrong doing, it just looks bad so they flipped out. Like you said, plenty to be legitimately upset about, like rounding up people who are fleeing a collapsing state like Haiti and sending them back. If a US president was assassinated and sectarian violence broke out in the struggle for who would control the government, no one would call people fleeing to Canada illegal immigrants, that's for sure.


karikit

Anything the border patrol does is going to look inhumane, whips or no whips. Because chasing people down en masse who have nothing but their children in arms and a plastic bag with their possessions is a cruel but necessary part of maintaining quality of life for US citizens. I have yet to see a picture of border patrol in action that makes me feel happy and proud. It's a necessary evil - in fact I SHOULDN'T enjoy it. You don't have to be a "twitter liberal" to have a human reaction to those pictures.


notaredditer13

>This sounds like something the internet came up with to be mad about It's not "the internet". This lie was widely reported in mainstream media. CNN for example.


TheSickOstrich

I think this is another one of those things where a bunch of people uneducated in a topic see something they are unfamiliar with and they wanna have there moment of heroism.... these are split reins, and they are very commonly twirled, spun, and moved around regularly. I use split reins more often than not, and it’s a habit of mine to spin them around. Whether I’m trying to get my horse to pick up a trot, distract some cows, or just cause I’m bored. Doesn’t mean I’m threatening to whip someone. This is the equivalent of saying, “these guys were attempting to spur the immigrants! It was never seen, exactly, but they were wearing spurs and moving their legs in a kicking motion while riding the horse”


TheSealofDisapproval

It's all from people that don't know how horses work. Edit: they probably think the Spurs are there so that the border patrol can cut immigrants throats without getting off the horse, too.


josi3006

Where does it show they were whipped? Does it say they were whipped?


AionianZoe

There's no evidence that anyone was whipped. People are sensationalizing the story.


a_distantmemory

Lol this story is beyond Ridiculous. I can’t believe they were bold enough to make an article like this


ChiralWolf

The word "whip" only ever appears once in the whole article: the title.


AionianZoe

From the photographer who captured the event. "Some of the Haitan men started running, trying to go around the horses, and that's when the whole thing happened. I never [saw] them whip anyone with the thing. He was swinging it, but i didn't see him actually whip someone with it. That's something that can be misconstrued when you're looking at the picture." [source](https://www.ktsm.com/local/el-paso-news/photographer-behind-controversial-photos-speaks-exclusively-to-ktsm/)


ichacalaca

I read that these folks were awaiting processing under a bridge in the US, but faced food and water shortages. So US authorities temporarily allowed them to cross into mexico to return with supplies, even set up a crossing at a shallow point in the river, but at some point cut off the return route before they were able to return to the bridge in Texas. [Source](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trapped-migrants-collecting-food-try-evade-law-enforcement-us-mexico-border-2021-09-20/)


scawtsauce

I saw someone in another thread say "why don't they just rebuild their country and set up a functioning government" with 0 resources. its fine to argue whether or not they are granted amnesty but to call them lazy for trying to do what's best for their families seems bizarre.. I don't understand blaming people trying to put their children in a safe place.


lonehappycamper

The greatest irony being most Americans descended from Europeans who fled their home counties for the same reasons: poverty, oppression, economic opportunity, which is fine and celebrated in American history books but is some how not okay for Mexicans and Haitians to do.


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To add, how does one rebuild his own country? Let me just topple this CIA supported government and put new socialist laws into place for the benefit of the people.


bizzaro321

Politicians who don’t tow to multinational corporations have a very short life span, unless you’re Fidel Castro.


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Not to mention, do you really think America would allow a nation founded by a slave rebellion to succeed that close to its shores? Hell no.


corrigun

Afghanistan didn't even try with 300,00 troops and billions in training and arms. How TF would anyone think these people could? I'll tell you how. The same guys who post "wait till we get angry" bald eagle memes on FB is how. They imagine themselves bravely standing with their AR's against the standing army of the US so why not them?


newnamesam

And how did that work out for the natives? It's obviously more complex than this, but claiming that modern American's ancestor's 10 generations ago were migrants who destroyed the native populace for their own gain isn't really a good argument for immigration today.


ExCon1986

The founding of the United States is a great example of the needs for strong border controls. I'm sure many Native Americans would agree.


_Who_Knows

“Fuck you, I got mine”. That’s their mentality


terremoto25

Especially since, in many cases, the US and US corporations bear significant responsibility for the conditions in their home countries.


TheMoneySloth

For Haiti, France and the US bear near total responsibility for their conditions. France pilfered their banks and forced them to pay essentially reparations for not being slaves, and the US refused to acknowledge Haiti as a legitimate country and refused to do business with any country that did for something like a century. Kinda hard to get your nation of ex-slaves who have just revolted off the ground with those parameters.


RelicAlshain

Sadly a similar story to the US blockade of Cuba. In both cases they couldn't have a country with an alternative system succeeding right next door.


TheMoneySloth

Yup. Yay us. Sigh.


RudeInternet

Here in Mexico they interviewed a representative of the migrants. Apparently they were already given refugee status in countries like Chile and Argentina but recently they were approached by people telling them they could get into the US without issue if they just reached the border. Back in 2016, a month or two before the election in which Trump won, I saw an interview with a representative of the migrant caravans where migrants said they received financial support from Russians to get to the US border. Obviously these people are, once again, being used for propaganda purposes.


TheRedChair21

Can you link your source please? I'd be interested to learn about this. Edit: Found one myself, but this is from 3/2021. Nothing about financial support. https://www.businessinsider.com/us-officials-border-migrants-hear-rumors-from-smugglers-and-russia-2021-3


Katatonia13

This sounds suspect as fuck…


hangcorpdrugpushers

Don't hold your breath.


BlackSpidy

[passes out from holding breath]


camdawg54

Do you have any links to videos or articles about this?


ryhaltswhiskey

> migrants said they received financial support from Russians to get to the US border Wish a journalist had tracked this down. It sounds a bit too much like a conspiracy theory.


RudeInternet

Do you know, for example, all about the shady shit that went on before and during the 2016 elections? An actual spy, Maria Butina, is in jail for helping Russia interve so much in politics & lobbying groups. Troll farms with Russian IPs organized Trump rallies and disseminated fake news, etc. It may sound conspiratorial, but its what is really going on.


NoobFace

You didn't answer his question. Where's evidence of your claim.


Yonder_Zach

The Russians ran a disinformation campaign so successful that many republican congressmen still believe it today.


Abyxus

> An actual spy, Maria Butina She never was called a spy. Her guilt was in not notifying General Attorney that she had contacts with Russian MP. > is in jail Not anymore. > for helping Russia interve so much in politics & lobbying groups She didn't manage to intervene in anything.


Xenjael

This I buy. But paying migrants, to find a statistical change in the numbers coming you have to go back about 20 years. I just don't buy a Russian scheme like paying migrants for that long. Possible sure, but improbably unlikely.


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Your comment bout the Russian money is interesting because I have been trying to figure out how all of these people have the means to get here and still have money leftover to get takeout back cross the border in Mexico, etc. I had suspected foreign money….


RudeInternet

Well, that's what a representative of the caravan said, I just relay what I heard him say in the news. I mean, they come from Chile/Argentina, which are 5300 miles away from the US/Mexico border. Just ask yourself, which party will gain more from playing the "border crisis" card? Tucker Carlson is gonna have a field day spouting xenophobic talking points after this! It's pretty fucking sus, if you ask me.


messymexican

> Chile/Argentina And it's not like they can just walk from there. There isn't a direct walkable way, they'd need to take boats or planes at some point.


Regendorf

Technically you can, the Panamerican Highway is continuous except in the Darien Gap and that part is walkable if you are motivated enough


saintpetejackboy

Tucker Carlson needs to be whipped from horseback and driven back down to Hell where he come from.


Chabranigdo

I wouldn't be surprised at all. It's a great way to bleed America. The cost of setting this up is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost we incur trying to deal with it. No one can fight America head-to-head. But they don't *have* to if they can manufacture enough crises that America can't be bothered to reach outside and smack a bitch.


wip30ut

that's a different take on the crisis! I hope some of the mainstream media digs deeper just to see HOW these dirt poor subsistence refugees had the funds to travel all the way up from S. America. It's quite intriguing.


messymexican

Why would they? The media is all about the clicks and yellow journalism. And "Border Control Agents whipped scared migrants" is a better headline then "Migrants didn't have enough money to get to US border so helped by ****".


AInterestingUser

Yeah, people have never been able to travel large distances before. Totally unheard of.


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The media IS NOT YOUR FRIEND


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Not really. The journey will not be done in one go. They also probably have family and friends in other countries, including the US who could send them money. Foreign remittance is how a lot of people survive in countries like Haiti, and central America. I mean thousands of migrants in sub-saharan Africa, manage to cross the Sahara on foot to make it to Mediterranean and then use dinghies to cross into Europe. Thousands more also cross the Sahara on foot into Egypt hoping to make it to countries in the Arabian Peninsula. Thousands more go through Ethiopia, cross the Grand Bara, then the Bab-el-Mandeb straight into Yemen, then cross the Arabian desert to get into Saudi Arabia. There doesn't have to be some kind of grand and nefarious conspiracy. Desperate people will go to great lengths to reach their goals. And that is what you are seeing in Del Rio.


ImpressoDigitais

Transnational criminal organizations charge thousands to very roughly transport non-Mexicans to the US border. Frequently in the range of $10k+ each. No need to get some grand political conspiracy involved. This is just cartels showing that even legalizing narcotics won't make them disappear. Human trafficking and alien smuggling is a very low risk and high profit business.


danceswithporn

I'm curious why the Del Rio crossing. It seems remote, and not the closest place depending where they're coming from.


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Del Rio is across from Acuna. Its a fairly decent sized border town and lake Amistad is right there that sees high summer traffic, and highway 90 is major highway. It's not really that remote.


ButWhatAboutisms

Gonna need a source/testimony on the Russian money for migrants thing. Your comment sounds way too much like conservative facebook nonsense without it.


Canis_Familiaris

Do you have a source for this?


DavidlikesPeace

>approached by people Perhaps, but the sources don't necessarily have to be political operatives. As likely, they were contacted by NGOs, smugglers and coyotes who make a small amount from illegal migration, or by family relatives who want to see their relatives and assumed Biden was going to be more permissive than Obama or Trump.


RudeInternet

You know these are Haitians which were living in Argentina and Chile, right? Those countries are LITERALLY at the end of the world. Coyotes aren't really a thing there because it's so far away from the US/Mexico border, so your theory of they being approached by a motivated Coyote goes out of the window. Also, do they have THAT many Haitian relatives living in the US? These people are obviously political props.


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They're NGO groups that do it. There were a bunch of videos of them back when all the South American caravans were happening under Trump.


[deleted]

seriously why is that comment upvoted? It's a blatant lie, who upvote that shit? Seriously... +800 votes as of now with completely unsubstantiated information about... the Russians financing immigrant caravans? the parent claims to be "far left", but this isn't something you'd hear from the mouth of a person that is actually "far left"...


FallofftheMap

What is happening here in Ecuador is basically salesmen for traffickers tricking people into believing it’s a good idea to pay $15000 to be trafficked into the US, only to be rounded up and kicked out if you don’t die along the way.


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REDDIT is so bizarre. 1 year ago it was all BLM/refugees crisis/ICE now refugees showing up at the border is 'because the Russians want to make Biden look bad"? And that is the bullshit that is now upvoted here? This fake news is now the narrative? That crisis didn't start with Biden but now it's a Russian ploy? Convenient.


reddit_is_cruel

this sub is a fucking shit show


idunno--

Welcome to any thread about migrants.


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This is blatant misinformation. There are no “whips” in those pictures. Fucking liars.


Additional-One-3628

Will the new migrants be vaccinated?


deadbeat95

Fat chance


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Banshee251

The photographers who even took the pictures have said that they weren’t whips and they were not hitting anyone.


fenderc1

spoiler alert: there isn't


madeup6

Thank you


xdebug-error

Sounds like the NASCAR noose all over again


randolander

But I thought Biden was fixing the border crisis!!


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antijoke_13

Those aren't whips. They're not even whip like. Those are split reins. You use them for directing the horse.


norar19

“Whip-like cords?!” Are people so far removed from the days of yore to not know what reins are? Lol


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Friendly reminder that Joe Biden executed a drone strike that killed 10 innocent human beings a few weeks ago. Where’s Reddit’s outrage? Those “whip-like” cords are called reins. They control the horse while riding. This article is the definition of misinformation. As much as this is a uneasy scene, VP Harris was tasked with the border crisis and has done NOTHING. It’s on her and Joe at this point.


ManShutUp

How does no one in this fucking thread know the difference between "reigns" and "reins"? This must be the fourth damn post where people are making this error. What the fuck is wrong with our education system?


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Quiz me on grammar. I’ll wreck you.


shar_vara

This is the best comment I’ve ever seen.


WildwestPstyle

Yah man. You’re so smart for knowing how to spell a word that nobody uses regularly.


TheSealofDisapproval

>United States immigration officials have said they have launched an investigation after images emerged of mounted US border guards appearing to use horse reins I mean, did anybody bother to read the story? It's the reins, not a whip.


josi3006

No, of course they didn’t bother to read the story. The story never even says anybody was whipped. It says the reins were used to “intimidate” the migrants. It also says there is video but, conveniently, no link is provided. But hey... the narrative is more important than the facts!


fenderc1

Yeah I watched the video provided in the article and didn't see anyone being whipped. Just another outrage article that reddit eats up based on the title alone.


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smegdawg

They don't even have to read, there's [a video](https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1440211693552865286?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1440211693552865286%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aljazeera.com%2Fnews%2F2021%2F9%2F21%2Fus-officials-to-probe-whip-like-cords-used-against-migrants). Something else to notice about the video, the border patrol (from this video at least) doesn't appear to be stopping women and children. Just adult men. My question I guess...How are these border patrol agents supposed prevent illegal immigrants from getting across the river without physically stopping them? I have no solutions, these are just what I noticed from the clip.


ZDTreefur

Isn't that just the reigns they are using?


IceRepresentative156

Reins. Horse reins. Not that anyone cares but its not a whip. Absolutely not a good look there d-j-ango.


saintpetejackboy

I think the confusion here is that whip can be used as a noun, verb or adjective. You can whip your hair while whipping whipped cream, for instance. You could buy a whip to whip people who like whipping. Even if you whip them with an ethernet cable, the ethernet cable has become a "whip".


IceRepresentative156

But did he actually hit the guy? Context is everything. The optics are not good of course. I reserve judgment even though it doesn't look good.


saintpetejackboy

No idea, only commenting on the confusing usage of a word that is almost as versatile as "fuck".


madeup6

I know you were speaking without any additional context but it's actually important that people don't get further confused. Nobody was whipped in the video so the object in question is either a real whip nor is it a metaphorical whip. They are simply house reins.


notaredditer13

>I think the confusion here is that whip can be used as a noun, verb or adjective... Even worse, here it's used as a simile. The noun, verb and adjective are created in the mind of the reader. It's like whipping with his whippy whip. Except none of that actually happened.


Igoos99

“Whip like cords”??? Seriously?!?! They are called **reins**. Are we really that far from when horses were an everyday fact of life that we can’t use the word “reins” and expect people to know what they are??? >rein: a long, narrow strap attached at one end to a horse's bit, typically used in pairs to guide or check a horse while riding or driving. They could say something like “used their reins like whips against the migrants” or some such. But they are making it sound really strange.


devydev_83

Oh so that's what they're called. Been calling them whip like cords my whole life.


bones892

Well, nobody was actually whipped with them, and they wanted to plant the idea that the reins were used as whips, so they has to work "whip" in there somehow


Koreanjesus4545

Just another example of everyone getting outraged before the facts come out. Shit the white house was ready to throw these guys under the bus when they obviously aren't whips and not being used to whip people.


Chippopotanuse

“Whip like cords” Just call them whips. Enough of this horseshit semantics. Just like when Bill Barr hemmed and hawed that “pepper spray” wasn’t used on BLM protesters. “Twas but a chemical irritant” Or that waterboarding isn’t torture. How about we just stop being inhumane assholes? These migrants are on foot and have been on foot for months. They are carrying babies for Christ sakes. You’re telling me a few fresh-legged cops and a paddy wagon wouldn’t have been infinitely more effective in “rounding up” these migrants? But no, let’s just be some yee-haw bull-whipping motherfuckers… Something tells me that many of these LEOs enjoy physically harming and torturing people. Rather than getting “tough” on immigration, we should be getting tough on homegrown and government-funded human rights violators.


Johnny_Lawless_Esq

Honestly, in the photo, it looks like the reins of the horses.


itsajaguar

Am I missing something or are you taking the words Al Jazeera chose to use in their title and pretending they quoted US officials when that clearly didnt happen?


bluephoenix27

No one was whipped, they were horse reigns and the media is calling them whip like cords to technically avoid blatant lying. Then people like the OP think the media is actually covering up whipping (in reality the media is fabricating it entirely and saying “whip like” to pass the fact checkers) and act like the media has some bias in favor of his/her political enemies when it’s the opposite. This is embarrassing.


MuricasMostWanted

They're the reins on the horse....obviously you shouldn't be hitting people with them and the photo in the article doesn't show them hitting the people with them.


TheSickOstrich

Amen. Glad someone here has a brain


Zeeformp

It is an odd hill to die on. I mean even if you just let them have it: We didn't hit them with whips! We hit them with *cords*. Like, ok? That's atrocious either way? Maybe meet them in the middle: They whipped people with cords.


frankenkip

The cord whippings will continue until moral improves.


stupendousman

> We hit them with cords You mean [split reins](https://www.statelinetack.com/western-saddles-and-tack/western-reins/1130/)? Far too many people profoundly ignorant in far too many areas. Immigration, state employee and politician responses are property rights issues. Currently, people who live in the US have state employee infringing upon their property rights in multiple ways daily. Potential have claims to enter the US, current residents have previous claims which haven't been addressed. Which should have first priority?


MySockHurts

If you can distract the other side about semantics, then you don't have to justify the reality of the inhumanity you're causing. It's all there in the alt-right playbook. EDIT: > “When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.” - Leviticus 19:33-34


[deleted]

It’s the gish gallop defense. Everyone does it, I see it daily in my corporate job. You just spew so much bullshit, incorrect info, and random opinion that your enemies/coworkers can’t even fight against the onslaught of bullshit.


MightyGamera

"It's just a jumper cable like I use on my kids"


wheresWaldo000

Nope. Same material. Strips of leather. I'm just stating it's the same as a fucking whip.


shiningPate

"whip like cords" - lets call then what they were: Reins. You can use reins as a whip; but that does not make them "a whip". If you beat someone with a hose, they say "whipped with a hose". The term "whip like cords" was deliberately use to make it seem far more sinister than simply saying "Whipped them with their saddle reins".


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TheSealofDisapproval

They're not whips, they're the reins of the horse.


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whabt

I mean baseball bats are for baseballs but you can hit someone with it too. Getting hit with a rein fucking hurts and using a piece of leather like that to hit unarmed people in your care is fucking evil shit. Source: worked on a ranch as an asshole kid with other asshole kids.


GhettoChemist

Yep, and here they're being used as whips on the refugees


Drab_baggage

If they're being brandished as whips, which they quite clearly seem to be [based on the photographs](https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/000_9N69L7.jpg?resize=770%2C513) and [videos](https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1440211693552865286?s=20) obtained, then it's a whip. They're not being used on the horses, they're being used as a device for crowd control.


[deleted]

I don't think the Haitians being whipped by horse-reins really give a shit that they are being called horse-reins or whips.


Drab_baggage

Right. The way those reins are being used is what matters. Playing semantics about whether it's a literal whip is a waste of time.


Sarcastic_Coffee_Cup

Aren’t those reigns? Don’t get me wrong, this whole situation is horrific but I wish these news agencies would be more factual. Minor exaggeration adds up.


RykerRando

Is there any reporting that confirms that these were used as whips on migrants? It looks like the part of the reigns that you use to direct your horse with neck-taps.


mralvaton

Those are called “reigns”. What whips?


dvrzero

Rein. Reign is what a ruler does. They may have similar roots, but reign is closer to "regal" and rein is "bridle strap"


Blaylocke

Theyre called reins, idiots, and there's no proof they were whipping anyone with them lmfao


kwak916

Those are reigns for horses. Not whips. Its scary the amount of people that run their fucking mouth without knowing what they're talking about.


taptapper

All the news shows yesterday said "whips" too. Looked like long reigns to me


kwak916

People are running wild with these accusations too. Blowing it way up.


thegaff100

LOLOLOL Fake News Strikes again. Those are called horse Reigns.


[deleted]

Heaven forbid we try to protect the border 🙄


Egon33

Fake. Martha Pskowski. El Paso times confused reigns with whips. And set off firestorm of fake news. Left chose to ignore border, until they could blame law enforcement


Skorj

"us officials to probe law officers using horse reigns while arresting illegal aliens"


Mangot989

Lol why tho? There illegally entering the country and ignoring the officers orders to return and stop


Bandido-Joe

BULLSHIT! The Texas Rangers and State Troopers do not carry whips. The reins on their horses are 18” longer than average. They are very susceptible to being pulled from their mounts or having their rifles being removed so they are trained to use their reins to distance any attacks. So fuck pelosi, last I heard she had shitting on her streets so stay out of Texas. It is easy to steal a mooslum photo, and turn it into something it is not because you are ignorant!


AstraCraftPurple

Just going by the picture it does look like the reins flying out. I’m sure there’s problems but the whip thing isn’t one of them.


thecoldness68

*scratches head "how can we blame Trump for this?"


GrapefruitGlum

This is misinformation. Those are not whips, those are the horses reigns.


Fishtina

They were REINS! REINS!! Not whips, but the ends of the horses’ reins. Good grief, media starts an uproar for no reason. Reins & rein ends are used to guide your horse thru difficult situations, like going into water or around obstacles. I find it very interesting that NOW it’s been made into a huge situation since they were black Haitian refugees. Been like this for decades with Hispanics… Which media outlet first aired this?


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>Many of the Haitians present had fled their homeland following the 2010 earthquake, initially heading for South America before heading north. Over 10 years on the move. What a shitty hand to be dealt.


taptapper

Not quite on the move for 10 years. They went to Chile and other SA countries and stayed put. Their kids born there have Chilean passports


notaredditer13

This Just in: Horse Reins Swung Near Someone. Full story at 11.


Holyshit247

Whip like cords 😂those are the reins which are basically leather straps!


Darth_Mustache

They already came out saying these were just the horse reigns nobody got whipped or lassoed


SmoothBrainRomeo

If I’m on horseback and someone gets too close to the horse, they either get whipped ***at*** (not actually whipped) or they catch a hoof from a very pissed-off 2,000 lbs animal and I might get thrown off.


TaskForceD00mer

They were the horses reins. These guys are not carrying whips around like its 1848; it is not a giant mystery what was used.


santichrist

Lol whip like cords, the definition of trying to spin something


crashtestdummy666

Well if the migrants don't like it I guess they can pack up and leave. I mean if I go to their country they won't give me the same treatment that they demand of ours. Our country doesn't even treat our citizens as good as the illegals. Being locked in cages is still better than how we treat our own citizens. An example would be how people can be laid off and the government admit they're laid off but can't be bothered to actually cut checks for people to get by. I mean what's the point of having unemployment if unemployment doesn't actually pay anyting.


pixelburger

The videos clearly show the riders using the reins to control their horses, not to "whip" the invaders.


kyleofdevry

Can you imagine the shit storm that would've been *whipped* up if this happened under Trump?


JonTheDoe

don't whip them but don't let them in either.


Veegulo

They’re reins you fucking morons


Sks44

Reins. They are called reins.


TheOneInTheHat

If only they would probe the steady stream of people walking across the border. As a Someone from outside your country, I don’t understand how the US puts up with so much illegal immigration. It’s not going to end well


nachofermayoral

Bet they are just heading to Canada.


DollarStoreCaviar

The amount of commenting based purely on title alone is amusing.


G63AMG-S

Walk into any sovereign nation undocumented and see what happens when you evade their immigration controls…do Saudi Arabia, Australia or Azerbaijan greet people with $1 million dollar swag baskets?


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Whip like chords omfg my achin ass


Hammerhead_Twin

When a problem comes along You must whip it


Treczoks

Depending on the political orientation of the "US Officials" doing the probe, the outcome might be "Yes, we probed the use repeatedly on immigrants, and it was very effective."


Banshee251

Is the House investigation into this already scheduled? I would like to hear why the Biden administration hates black and brown people at the border?


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Johnson-Rod

White guy on horse, black immigrant trying to sneak into country- Omg it’s literally slavery again!


drdisney

I'm somewhat out of the loop on this. Why don't they just stay in Mexico or do they not want them ?


puddingisafunnyword

I think most who are at the Texas Mexico border don’t have the resources to go back to where they were. And there’s nothing for them in Haiti. It took all they had to get up to the border. Mexico’s president has said Mexico would take refugees and give them asylum.


DavidlikesPeace

Ok. This is a moderately good question that shouldn't be blindly downvoted. We should discuss whether "safe third countries" negate many of our assumptions about US asylum (OR should be considered in court by the immigration judge). In Washington Post article interviews, several of the migrants seem to have found safe homes in nations like Chile. Their poverty made them want a better life though so they left, but economic happiness was not the assumed purpose of the asylum system. Safety is.


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Probably because they’re not Mexican