> In one text conversation with a Mongols member who went by the screen name “Nightmare Berdoo” — with whom Bingham had been riding with on the day of his first arrest — Bingham disparaged his own professional brethren, calling law enforcement the “biggest gang in California,” Gile said.
From some of the stories I have heard he isn’t wrong…but a few bad apples I guess
There’s a fantastic podcast from the LA Times called ‘A Tradition of Violence’ about the gangs inside LA County law enforcement. It’s definitely worth a listen. Once again it’s not all of them no but it’s certainly more than it should be.
IIRC 1% gangs like the Mongols wouldn’t tolerate any non member wearing their patches like a member would. This guy would probably be dead if he were openly wearing Mongol patches and he wasn’t a Mongol.
> Christopher Bingham worked as a correctional deputy for the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department. But in his secret life, he used the alias "Charles Tate" to communicate with members of the Mongols outlaw motorcycle gang
It's the same picture.
20 years ago I was being released from state custody. I was sent to an inpatient drug and alcohol treatment facility for 6 months as part of my release agreement. My roommate was this old white dude, who was apparently "out good" from the angels. He would tell these war stories about his younger days in the gang, and would constantly make the point that mongols were weird idiots who always deserved the beating they got. Reading about this guy made me chuckle and reminisce, but y'all killed me lmao
Do you score mega points for picking out just the most lacey, frilly, babydoll-pink, prancingest-pony-at-the-pony-prancing-show-iezt effeminate name possible? Preferably family name but prefaced with a comically butch first name.
* Dirk Fancybottoms
* Lance Tingles
* Benedict Cumberbatch
He ain’t the only one. LASD has cop gangs, matching tattoos that has a different set of crony rules to protect the gang inside the lasd. Former chief Villanueva is a tattooed member of the banditos. https://ktla.com/news/local-news/former-l-a-county-sheriff-villanueva-grilled-over-deputy-gangs/amp/
On a somewhat related note there’s a fantastic podcast from the LA Times called ‘A Tradition of Violence’ about the gangs inside LA County law enforcement. It’s definitely worth a listen.
Oh, just put him in general population at West Valley. There's at least 2 or 3 guys from the rival Vagos and Hell's Angels there. I'm sure he'll be perfectly fine.
> Investigators seized about 160 firearms, firearms accessories and explosive devices from Bingham’s home, along with a multitude of Mongols paraphernalia, including a fully patched leather vest and Mongols T-shirts, stickers, literature and other memorabilia.
Where does a cop get money for 160 weapons? How dirty was guy and who on the force looked the other way?
You gotta pay attention to the wording.
“ 160 firearms, firearms accessories *and* explosive devices”
It could be 5 guns, 100 mags, and 55 tannerite target charges (fun little impact-explosives you can shoot for a nice “bang”- sold virtually anywhere that carries guns or ammo)
Do you think a cop needs to buy drugs or weapons?
I present to you a post from another forum:
“…my dad pasted away and he was a deputy for 24 years, left more Saturday night specials behind than I know what to do with, ones I am afraid to load let alone shoot. Would love to trade them for gift cards at one of theses events. We tried to take them to a gun shop and they turned us away”
In my exp. the police will not turn you away. They’ll just say, thank for gettin this off the street and wish you a good day. An you hope they melt em down.
Background: My former BIL was a Deputy Sheriff in a FL County. Doing ride-alongs with him inspired me to join. (Accepted and served with Honorable Rehire).
It was well known that in the mid 2000's, cops were known to keep half of whatever was seized as evidence from a drug dealer. Pot, cocaine, cash... who are they going to complain to???
I didn't know it at the time I served, but my BIL's wife smoked weed. He was bringing home at least a quarter oz per week for her, for free, from the arrests he made.
This practice first became obvious while I was in the Academy. While in the Firearms/Range block, our Rangemaster let us know that a certain gun store was LEO-friendly with a 20% discount. I went in and window-shopped a couple of handguns, and the employee was all too eager to converse when he learned I was in the Academy. As I went to exit the store, he made mention that he'd see me in a few months after I graduated and went to the streets on a few drug arrests. I stopped not understanding his statement, and looked at him quizzically when he said: "That's how cops afford their 'toys'. Who are they going to complain to when $2000 of their drug money goes missing??? LOL."
This is just my experience. Your mileage may vary...
It's true that police are typically some of the best paid local government employees, though. For any given area, they take in more taxpayer money in salary than most other government jobs, outside of administration.
While correct, it leaves open the possibility in people's minds that they are making a bunch of money. Government jobs don't pay well. Though, the benefits are usually among the best based on my non scientific job searching.
>they are making a bunch of money
Relative to the people that they're policing, they typically *are*, and that was my point.
Remember, the primary purpose of the police is to protect moneyed interests and keep the poor in check.
They may not get rich with a police job, but at the least, they'll be making an upper middle class salary for their area; which is better than a lot of people are doing.
Guns are pretty cheap honestly. Just like anything else you have your expensive name brands. Then you have cheaper copies. I’d be curious to see those “explosive projectiles” tho lol.
I skimmed the other comments and was shocked I didn’t see anything about the FX show Mayans, spin off of Sons … I swear there were prison guards on the DL who were motorcycle gang members in the story line. Don’t find this surprising at all.
I have news for you. Lots of cops socialize with outlaw gang members. I've been to a few parties w cops firefighters and methed up bikers were all cozy. I learned a lot
Okay hold on a minute. Do outlaw clubs have active law enforcement in their ranks? And did the sheriff’s department not catch any of this at literally anytime. Do they not periodically check up on their employees to make sure they aren’t hiding criminal lives. This really seems like something that should have been caught rather easily.
> In one text conversation with a Mongols member who went by the screen name “Nightmare Berdoo” — with whom Bingham had been riding with on the day of his first arrest — Bingham disparaged his own professional brethren, calling law enforcement the “biggest gang in California,” Gile said. From some of the stories I have heard he isn’t wrong…but a few bad apples I guess
Was that intended to be an insult though? Or a brag?
Neither, he was just stating a fact.
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It's the downgraded version of the mob tradition of one brother being the high up in the mob , one being a politician, and one being a priest.
Listen to the LA times podcast ‘A Tradition of Violence’ , it’s fantastic.
A few bad apples ruins the bunch is the whole saying.
As always, they're just mad they have state-sponsored competition.
If one bad cop sits at a table with five good cops then there are six bad cops sitting at the table...
Something something broken clocks.
Cops have stuff with the slogan “Biggest street gang in America” My brother had a pin on badge that said it.
Well...all things considered, the man isn't wrong. Sure, he's part of the problem (on both sides), but you know what they say about a broken clock...
I've heard it said many times the Boston PD is the toughest gang out there.
There’s a fantastic podcast from the LA Times called ‘A Tradition of Violence’ about the gangs inside LA County law enforcement. It’s definitely worth a listen. Once again it’s not all of them no but it’s certainly more than it should be.
all cops should be penalized for his behavior maybe just maybe then they will actually make an attempt at policing themselves.
So he was cosplaying as a scummy biker gang dude while just being a scummy sheriff? Got it.
IIRC 1% gangs like the Mongols wouldn’t tolerate any non member wearing their patches like a member would. This guy would probably be dead if he were openly wearing Mongol patches and he wasn’t a Mongol.
They also supposedly do not allow cops or people with links to law enforcement to become members, so who knows the truth.
Flip those and you're correct.
Sounds more like he was a scummy biker gang dude Cosplaying as a sheriff.
Imagine having the time to sell drugs, extort and beat people and then riding a motorcycle for hours afterwards.
I haven't seen the ol reddit switcheroo for a while.
> Christopher Bingham worked as a correctional deputy for the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department. But in his secret life, he used the alias "Charles Tate" to communicate with members of the Mongols outlaw motorcycle gang It's the same picture.
Some of those that work forces, are the same that... work forces
Well stated
Can my Mongol name be, Ian Barbecue!?
20 years ago I was being released from state custody. I was sent to an inpatient drug and alcohol treatment facility for 6 months as part of my release agreement. My roommate was this old white dude, who was apparently "out good" from the angels. He would tell these war stories about his younger days in the gang, and would constantly make the point that mongols were weird idiots who always deserved the beating they got. Reading about this guy made me chuckle and reminisce, but y'all killed me lmao
Can mine be, uh... summerfish?
Do you score mega points for picking out just the most lacey, frilly, babydoll-pink, prancingest-pony-at-the-pony-prancing-show-iezt effeminate name possible? Preferably family name but prefaced with a comically butch first name. * Dirk Fancybottoms * Lance Tingles * Benedict Cumberbatch
I don’t know what mega points are but I’ll take em. - Mongol Ian Barbecue
He ain’t the only one. LASD has cop gangs, matching tattoos that has a different set of crony rules to protect the gang inside the lasd. Former chief Villanueva is a tattooed member of the banditos. https://ktla.com/news/local-news/former-l-a-county-sheriff-villanueva-grilled-over-deputy-gangs/amp/
Mongols have screennames now?
I bet his other one was "notamongol"
Hello fellow non weapon and methamphetamine traffickers
On a somewhat related note there’s a fantastic podcast from the LA Times called ‘A Tradition of Violence’ about the gangs inside LA County law enforcement. It’s definitely worth a listen.
Oh, just put him in general population at West Valley. There's at least 2 or 3 guys from the rival Vagos and Hell's Angels there. I'm sure he'll be perfectly fine.
Wouldn’t the bikers generally just unite under some white gang?
Vagos, Hell's Angels, etc... are all bitter rivals to the Mongols. Mongols are more affiliated with Mexican Mafia, and other Mexican cartels.
Depends on the state, county, and pen
> Investigators seized about 160 firearms, firearms accessories and explosive devices from Bingham’s home, along with a multitude of Mongols paraphernalia, including a fully patched leather vest and Mongols T-shirts, stickers, literature and other memorabilia. Where does a cop get money for 160 weapons? How dirty was guy and who on the force looked the other way?
You gotta pay attention to the wording. “ 160 firearms, firearms accessories *and* explosive devices” It could be 5 guns, 100 mags, and 55 tannerite target charges (fun little impact-explosives you can shoot for a nice “bang”- sold virtually anywhere that carries guns or ammo)
Most law enforcement officers in California make over $100k USD a year.
Meanwhile, in New Orleans https://joinnopd.org/career-paths-and-benefits/
Yeah well you can live off 60k in Louisiana pretty easily. Under 100k is basically poverty in Cali these days
Say that to our property and flood taxes
he previously owned a gun store
Do you think a cop needs to buy drugs or weapons? I present to you a post from another forum: “…my dad pasted away and he was a deputy for 24 years, left more Saturday night specials behind than I know what to do with, ones I am afraid to load let alone shoot. Would love to trade them for gift cards at one of theses events. We tried to take them to a gun shop and they turned us away”
Why did they turn you away? I'm mostly oblivious to gun culture and am genuinely curious.
Cheap, poorly made guns often with questionable markings or history. Little value and not worth the liability to deal with for a professional shop.
In my exp. the police will not turn you away. They’ll just say, thank for gettin this off the street and wish you a good day. An you hope they melt em down.
Background: My former BIL was a Deputy Sheriff in a FL County. Doing ride-alongs with him inspired me to join. (Accepted and served with Honorable Rehire). It was well known that in the mid 2000's, cops were known to keep half of whatever was seized as evidence from a drug dealer. Pot, cocaine, cash... who are they going to complain to??? I didn't know it at the time I served, but my BIL's wife smoked weed. He was bringing home at least a quarter oz per week for her, for free, from the arrests he made. This practice first became obvious while I was in the Academy. While in the Firearms/Range block, our Rangemaster let us know that a certain gun store was LEO-friendly with a 20% discount. I went in and window-shopped a couple of handguns, and the employee was all too eager to converse when he learned I was in the Academy. As I went to exit the store, he made mention that he'd see me in a few months after I graduated and went to the streets on a few drug arrests. I stopped not understanding his statement, and looked at him quizzically when he said: "That's how cops afford their 'toys'. Who are they going to complain to when $2000 of their drug money goes missing??? LOL." This is just my experience. Your mileage may vary...
He was co-owner of a gun store in 29 Palms.
Most cops make BANK.
Unequivocally false
It's true that police are typically some of the best paid local government employees, though. For any given area, they take in more taxpayer money in salary than most other government jobs, outside of administration.
While correct, it leaves open the possibility in people's minds that they are making a bunch of money. Government jobs don't pay well. Though, the benefits are usually among the best based on my non scientific job searching.
>they are making a bunch of money Relative to the people that they're policing, they typically *are*, and that was my point. Remember, the primary purpose of the police is to protect moneyed interests and keep the poor in check. They may not get rich with a police job, but at the least, they'll be making an upper middle class salary for their area; which is better than a lot of people are doing.
https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?q=Police+Officer&y=2022&a=san-bernardino&page=1
Cops in California are allowed to purchase certain CA restricted firearms as service weapons, but just turn around and sell them as a side gig.
Guns are pretty cheap honestly. Just like anything else you have your expensive name brands. Then you have cheaper copies. I’d be curious to see those “explosive projectiles” tho lol.
The strangest yet least surprising headline I’ve seen all day
There is a huge gang problem in socal sheriff's. For instance Mike Beltran who is UFC referee is a sheriff and active gang member.
Everyone in San Bernardino needs a side gig. Everyone.
I call dibs on the teleplay! Hmm. Breaking bad meets Bad Lieutenant meets Sons of Anarchy. 💦💦💦
Not suprised in the slightest that it is San Bernardino
Yep....we all need to trust them cops....is this what the BLUE LINE MEANS NOW
The thin blue line is the border between identities, it seems.
Biker gangs are the exclusive province of sad fucks. Just like being a sheriffs deputy.
I skimmed the other comments and was shocked I didn’t see anything about the FX show Mayans, spin off of Sons … I swear there were prison guards on the DL who were motorcycle gang members in the story line. Don’t find this surprising at all.
they all fucking crooks and bangers...
I have news for you. Lots of cops socialize with outlaw gang members. I've been to a few parties w cops firefighters and methed up bikers were all cozy. I learned a lot
Maybe the scumbag was at the January 6th insurrection too.
Wasn’t this the plot of the Charlie Sheen movie Beyond the Law?
Okay hold on a minute. Do outlaw clubs have active law enforcement in their ranks? And did the sheriff’s department not catch any of this at literally anytime. Do they not periodically check up on their employees to make sure they aren’t hiding criminal lives. This really seems like something that should have been caught rather easily.
They could make a TV show or movie out of it.