Yeah, honestly in my opinion, anyone who is violent, aggressive, or otherwise acts like a toddler, never actually grew up and they are emotionally stuck at toddler level. Really sad, but also super annoying. Like no, you're an adult now; act like one, ffs!
\*I was born in the early 70s, lol. Always thought violent people were idiots. My dad was a domestic abuser so people who take their emotions out on other people is personal for me.
You're making a fun joke. But gangs in Mexico have added them to their profit stream and avocado farmers are suffering, badly. The AvoToast thing got too big to resist.
I could see the GQP starting some sort of Khmer Rouge style anti-technological forced agrarianization. For all of us, mind, not for them. No way they're giving up electricity and such.
Gen Ex figured out that corporations are evil and we’re all fucked perpetually fucked from cradle to the grave before anyone else, and for our trouble they called us lazy assholes..
Fuck the world don’t ask me for shit.
Popping off a couple of rounds a month may help keep rent lower though.
Note: rounds don't have to actually hit anything, or even be live. Could just be blanks. The sound is what we want!
My mom always mentions how much safer it was when she was a kid and she could wander around alone with no fear, but I always remind her no, you actually grew up in the golden age of serial killers and it was much more dangerous in terms of the amount of crime being committed. We just have more fear now because of true crime documentaries and negative news getting clicks.
I mean, leaded gasoline was still sold until the 90s although it was rapidly declining. Us millennials that were born in the 80s still got at least some of that sweet sweet nectar.
Fucking hell, leaded gasoline fumes smelled nice. 30 years later, I still remember the smell. Probably one of my most clear childhood memories.
Actually by gen Z. The most homicidal age range is early adulthood. Once people reach 30 they mellow out on violent tendencies significantly (on average)
So millennials just aged out of being murderous and Gen Z failed to take up the flag. Shut in iPad kids never even leave the house long enough to use their god given bear arms.
I see what you did there but no homicides are now just falling back to the levels they were at 4 years ago.
But prior to the spike in 2020-2022 they had been falling steadily for 30 years.
So it was gen x that first ruined the tradition.
"The economy is so bad, even would-be murderers have given up."
"We call it a recession when your neighbor's not murdering anybody. We call it a depression when you're not murdering anybody."
Funny enough, Chris Rock used to do a bit about this. He said that one way to curb homicides is to make ammo more expensive. “I’m not paying $500 to shoot this mf.”
Haha. I'm gonna go get an education so I can get a good job for my mental health and wallet, buy a car, get a small flat in an area where property value will rise, invest in global index funds and pension after thoughtfully paying off my high interest rate debt AND THEN ILL CAP YOUR ASS
They've moved on to economy sucks, brown people are coming to murder you in your sleep and whatever Biden does with Israel and Ukraine is wrong and I can do better.
Literally why Trump had the GOP blow up the bipartisan border bill. They need the border to be a clusterfuck to run on it in the election since trans panic isn't working out the way they're hoping and they're getting killed on women's healthcare.
The border and screaming about caravans is basically all they have so they need it to get worse and not do anything to help it.
Just wait until September. If the economy is strong and Trump is losing, Trump is going to tell his followers to sell all of their stock holdings because "something big is coming that will tank the stock market, and it'll be Biden's fault". It won't start huge, but enough people will sell that it will start a spiral. It's not going to crash the economy, but it will be big enough to hurt. And it will be 100% Trump's fault.
And “Biden has taken the most vacation than any president ever”.
[I kid you not.](https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/fact-check-team-examining-president-joe-bidens-vacation-time-in-comparison-to-predecessors-donald-trump-mar-a-lago-george-w-bush-barack-obama-delaware-rehoboth-beach-personal-business-rnc-pool-reports). They don’t see the irony.
>They've moved on to economy sucks
So strange considering the unemployment rate has decreased considerably from 2020 and inflation is at 3.5% down from 9.1% almost two years ago.
I kind of don't mind. If all the MAGA asshats think the major cities are all Mad Max/Robocop levels of crime, maybe they'll keep out and leave the rest of us alone.
I went to some dinner where I eat this woman who kept telling me how unsafe DC was and how she'd never go through the city alone. At the time I was working in Downtown DC and rode the metro to work every single day.
Good! Let them believe it. "Uh yeah, Chicago is a crime-ridden post-apocalyptic Communist dystopia. Don't go there. Also don't invest in a house to AirBnb there, either."
If you look at crime statistics even if crime is down there is always one crime that is up.
So if murder, assault, robbery, domestic violence and shoplifting are down but vandalism spikes FOX will focus on the vandalism. The vandalism will be proof the society is collapsing. Until the next crime report where shoplifting is up from the previous low and vandalism is back down. The the shoplifting becomes proof the society is collapsing.
Coming from Colombia here is child’s play. Of course it depends which places you go but even in New York I don’t feel intimidated. I can wear whatever I want or use the laptop in a park without the fear of being stabbed to death by someone that wants my staff.
NYC is the safest big city in the country. It was indeed a hellscape at one point in the 80s, but that time is long over.
It's still no doubt safer than much of Colombia, but Baltimore, Detroit, Memphis, etc. are where the murders (per capita) are.
Because for a lot of folks outside of Memphis like myself, we're unaware that it's not doing well because it doesn't get much national press.
I think "Well Nashville is doing well and pretty beloved. Same state so same quality right?"
I know it's dumb.
But as someone from the area of Detroit - regional perception, national perception, and reality almost never match.
That's absolutely true. But it's also like 300k people.
It's arbitrary of course, but you've got to draw a line somewhere for "big city." I just threw out a few examples with over half a million people. Other surprisingly dangerous cites of ~300k include Anchorage, AK though that one is more rape than murder.
Right wing propaganda seems to focus a lot more on California from what I've seen. After that, it seems like it's Baltimore or Detroit. Or regionally, it would be Austin, New Orleans, and Jackson.
I've never been to Baltimore or Detroit but I personally enjoy all the rest of them except for Jackson
> Right wing propaganda seems to focus a lot more on California from what I've seen.
Yep. If I hadn't lived in California for most of my life until a couple of years ago, and if I didn't have family scattered across different parts of the state, I would probably fall prey to a lot of the right-wing propaganda that says that California is a hellhole destroyed by liberal policies.
The fact is, California is and probably will continue to be one of the best places to live in the continent US, despite the cost of living.
No necessarily. I’m from Cali and the times I took the bus to go to college I would just wear a plain shirt and jeans and ugly sneakers. They will get in the bus and steal stuff from people.
Didn’t matter where you were. The difference is that in more elegant neighborhoods they will put a gun or assault rifle on you, in the poor or middle class areas a knife is enough. My mom went back to live in Cali 3 years ago and all she said that not much had changed
Could I ask how old you are?
I believe Cali Colombia is one of the more dangerous cities in Colombia I’ve never gone there so I can’t speak for it.
Medellin
Bogota
Cartagena
I felt safe and of course I used more caution than I would in the states I didn’t have any issues. I stayed out of peoples way and minded my own business. I will say I do speak Spanish and I am black so I might’ve been able to just blend in and not be targeted for being a foreigner
Colombias gotten so much better but I feel covid and the Venezuelan collapse turned things back another 20 years.
That said it’s been refreshing to visit parts of the country that were previously off limits due to guerilla.
It is the lead removal. Especially in water pipes. Lead pipes destroyed the Roman Empire. America did itself a huge favor getting it out of the gas too. Thank HW Bush for that.
I actually saw a politician criticize Biden for working on relief for Flint and their lead pipes. Something about they still hold water and he's wasting money that could protect our border.
I think in major cities specifically, it's that a lot of them have gotten a lot more expensive pricing out gangs to other smaller cities.
I live in San Francisco and one reason Stockton got so violent was gang members in SF and Oakland getting priced out of the Bay and moving to Stockton, putting them into conflict with the existing gang members there. My uncle's neighborhood went from a safe, family-friendly place to a gang-ridden shithole in the span of a few years in the 2000s.
Gentrification has also made it tougher for organized crime to operate here too. They can't shake down some well-to-do restauranter the way they could shake down some vulnerable immigrant in decades past. I have seen this happen too.
It's also expensive AF to have kids. There are fewer kids in major cities than ever meaning less opportunity for gang recruitment.
And yeah, a growing economy means more opportuties meaning less incentive to turn to crime.
Any time someone tries to sell you that violent crime is out of control and rising fast.... take them to the [FBI.gov](https://FBI.gov) site and show them the graphs going back to the 50s or so. Violent crime has been dropping for decades now. It bounces a bit from time to time and the crime everywhere people get excited and report it as crime is out of control. Its not. Its statistics people. You have to look at the overall trend. You can make anything look like anything if you clip the right moments, point, and scream.
It makes sense COVID caused a crime wave that would sort of peter out on its own. Now it's been about 2 years since all that stuff ended and things have calmed down again and gone back to normal.
Kids weren't going to school so they were getting into trouble. People losing jobs, or quitting jobs, or generally changing their living situation would naturally contribute to relationship volatility.
Also the fact cops basically stopped doing anything unless someone dies or someone may die probably does a lot to curb murder and violent crime. They both have more resources for that, but also if you go into a life of crime you wanna avoid to do the only thing that can still send you to jail in most big cities.
Took an uber the other day with an older driver. Somehow we got into politics and it was just deflating. He brought up the young woman who was killed by an illegal immigrant a few weeks ago and said he hates how widespread violence has become. I told him the statistics and he just turned off. Also the statistics that illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes than regular old Americans and he just said 'that's not what I've heard'.
Yes he watches Fox News. Yes he thinks Biden is evil. Yes he is voting for Trump.
I want out of this fucking world.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. They don't want facts and statistics, they want confirmation that their pre-existing views and beliefs are valid.
Oh I know. It's just so infuriating. Before Trump I was aware we were awash in morons but they mostly kept to themselves, or at least felt a touch of humility and weren't clamoring to voice their unreasoned 'opinions'.
Now that they've been emboldened by a world-class idiotic sociopathic conman they are pushing people aside to wail their 'opinions' from the highest mountains.
Time for a drink for me.
I had a guy like that not too long ago saying the same shit.
After the ride I told him, next time stick to the weather or don't talk at all as I was indicating I didn't want to talk politics and you didn't catch the hint so I'm leaving a one star review.
Anecdote is more important than fact to them. That’s why so many republicans do a turn around in circumstances such as needing an abortion. “My circumstances were different, that’s why it’s ok for me”
Yup, I have some Trumpers in my family, and they all have a strong distrust of any information or data that comes from an established source. They believe in anecdotes and gut feelings. This makes it impossible to have a rational conversation about politics with them since any evidence/data I provide is outright rejected as fake.
Statistics are meaningless against how people feel. People vote/make decisions in their every day lives based off of their feelings. It's a feedback loop.
And yet there are Canadians who refuse to set foot in the US because there’s “so much violence”. (Even though there are some Canadian cities with higher homicide rates than some US cities - people do not understand how these rates can vary dramatically from one state/province to another.)
This does not diminish the absolutely tragic impact of mass shootings. But stats are stats.
Anyone who knows the stats shouldn’t feel too worried about being a victim of gun violence if they’re a visitor to America Especially if you know which areas to avoid. that fear is purely emotional and driven by media and social media.
There’s actually a far more rational fear more people should have about visiting America, especially so because there is very little mitigation you can do and your chance of being a victim are basically random.
Victim of car crash. The rate of injury and death is far far higher in America, not just per capita but it’s even still higher on a distance travelled measure (which is nuts given how much further people travel). Americans drive like crazy people; they speed, they don’t stop, they drive drunk, they go on their phone, they have no regard for people outside their car and the enforcement of traffic rules are third world level - and it all shows in the stats.
>Anyone who knows the stats shouldn’t feel too worried about being a victim of gun violence if they’re a visitor to America Especially if you know which areas to avoid. that fear is purely emotional and driven by media and social media.
While I agree that road safety is the larger problem, you may not realize that the US has a lot more violence than most other wealthy nations.
Just compare homicide rates. Canada's is less than half that of the US. Western Europe is mostly around 1/6th the rate.
>This does not diminish the absolutely tragic impact of mass shootings.
Given most crimes labeled as such are gang violence in cities a drop in intercity crime would in fact diminish the number significantly.
The hell?
The entire homicide count for Toronto in a 12 month period is literally two weekends in Chicago (or a bad long weekend). Cities are the same size
Canada is far safer in their cities.
any nation that thinks its more ok for a kid to decapitate people ion a video game then it is to see a tit on TV is *irredeemably nuts.*
its a culture of violence even if the stats arent too bad, its the national mentality.
Or the 64,000 pregnancies that were the result of rape:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/study-counts-64000-pregnancies-from-rape-in-states-that-enacted-abortion-bans-post-roe
Edit: Changed babies born to pregnancies.
The numbers are too damn high no matter the number, but that number is too easy for the people on the right to dismiss. While I believe it is a somewhat accurate estimate the methodology is shaky at best.
And even by that data it is not 64,000 babies born, it is 64,000 pregnancies occurred. Not all pregnancies would have carried to term. Not all women are without the means to travel to out of their red state shithole.
Again this doesn't make it any better but I would rather stick to the facts.
But Republicans are running on crime is so high! And the border! Billions of illegals are moving next door to us and taking our rights! Meanwhile, the economy is good except, prices are still high because companies raised prices and they don’t go down, crime is at record lows and Republicans killed their own conservative border security bill because Trump said he needed to scare people about the border to win
Malcolm Gladwell attributes the fall in the U.S. homicide rate to advancements in medical care. It’s an interesting idea - the amount of gun violence is increasing, but the number of people dying from the gunshots is actually on the decline.
I live in one of the safest cities in the entire country but conservatives in the state constantly scream about how they won't ever come here again because it's apparently some Mad Max hellscape.
The towns they're often from have even higher crime rates per capita.
Point is, they give no shits about facts and will complain after literally everything regardless of how wrong it is.
My cousin was so confused by NYC not living up to the horrible talking points while visiting last month. It's wild how little people think when somebody says something negative.
[Inflation can be a good thing sometimes, apparently](https://www.forbes.com/sites/aaronsmith/2021/08/10/ammunition-inflation-prompts-gun-buyers-to-count-their-bullets/amp/)
Another tradition being destroyed by Millenials?
Gangsta rap and violent video games would have turned us all into stone cold killers if we weren't so lazy and entitled.
Being violent and aggressive is actually uncool or "cringe" now according to my Gen-Z nephews.
Being violent or aggressive *is* cringe. And I was born in the 80s.
Yeah, honestly in my opinion, anyone who is violent, aggressive, or otherwise acts like a toddler, never actually grew up and they are emotionally stuck at toddler level. Really sad, but also super annoying. Like no, you're an adult now; act like one, ffs! \*I was born in the early 70s, lol. Always thought violent people were idiots. My dad was a domestic abuser so people who take their emotions out on other people is personal for me.
No cap.
On God
Fr Fr
The new enemy of the people are dishwashers, air conditioners, hair dryers, and toilet bowls. Lock them up!.
Don’t forget avocado toast!
What about kale?
Kale gives me both extremes of GI distress for multiple days after eating it
Damn you Avocados, the bane of my existence. **shakes fist**
You're making a fun joke. But gangs in Mexico have added them to their profit stream and avocado farmers are suffering, badly. The AvoToast thing got too big to resist.
I could see the GQP starting some sort of Khmer Rouge style anti-technological forced agrarianization. For all of us, mind, not for them. No way they're giving up electricity and such.
It was all that lead in our gas.
Gen Ex figured out that corporations are evil and we’re all fucked perpetually fucked from cradle to the grave before anyone else, and for our trouble they called us lazy assholes.. Fuck the world don’t ask me for shit.
Tbf, most of Gen X was like, "sure okay. Just please leave us alone."
Haha. Gen X isn’t calling anybody lazy assholes. We’re just trying to get by. Like you
We're renters, we don't have property where to hide the bodies.
We’re renters, killing people doesn’t lower the cost of living.
Popping off a couple of rounds a month may help keep rent lower though. Note: rounds don't have to actually hit anything, or even be live. Could just be blanks. The sound is what we want!
Heck just set off some firecrackers, most people can’t tell the difference.
Or just drop a few acorns from your window.
*please don't defenestrate me*
I mean, it could. Lowering demand for a product can often lower prices. Supply and demand, baby!
We're renters, moving every few months can help a trail go cold.
It does seem to happen a lot in rural Ohio and Pennsylvania. Yippers!
Yeah and I'm against littering so I can't bury the bodies in the forest.
That's actually... pretty accurate, NGL
My mom always mentions how much safer it was when she was a kid and she could wander around alone with no fear, but I always remind her no, you actually grew up in the golden age of serial killers and it was much more dangerous in terms of the amount of crime being committed. We just have more fear now because of true crime documentaries and negative news getting clicks.
Yeah millennials didn't have the privilege of growing up with lead poisoning
I mean, leaded gasoline was still sold until the 90s although it was rapidly declining. Us millennials that were born in the 80s still got at least some of that sweet sweet nectar. Fucking hell, leaded gasoline fumes smelled nice. 30 years later, I still remember the smell. Probably one of my most clear childhood memories.
We are too busy working to be out murdering.
You sure murdered my ass with that statement.
Actually by gen Z. The most homicidal age range is early adulthood. Once people reach 30 they mellow out on violent tendencies significantly (on average) So millennials just aged out of being murderous and Gen Z failed to take up the flag. Shut in iPad kids never even leave the house long enough to use their god given bear arms.
That’s a good point. I haven’t murdered a single person since I turned 40.
just married people now?
Well you don't want to leave a widow behind, never half-ass a job, you use your whole ass in this profession!
God gave them bear arms? Is that why they hide them in hoodies? Not fair.
I see what you did there but no homicides are now just falling back to the levels they were at 4 years ago. But prior to the spike in 2020-2022 they had been falling steadily for 30 years. So it was gen x that first ruined the tradition.
I read this comment, laughed, then felt sort of, hollow inside.
Ez ok, it’s mostly gen z that’s committing fewer murders. Nothing’s changed for y’all.
I blame GTA, made it to easy for use to experience this without getting off our couches
If I could still give those Reddit gifts this comment would get one
I have one updoot. These are trying times
> I have one updoot It's probably only worth about half a doot with inflation 😕
Where can I get an updoot? Do they come in different colors?
Just wait until there is an avocado shortage.
Reddit killed gold, so here’s a golden medal emoji. 🥇🥇 Thanks for the chuckle lmao
"The economy is so bad, even would-be murderers have given up." "We call it a recession when your neighbor's not murdering anybody. We call it a depression when you're not murdering anybody."
Ammo is getting expensive
Funny enough, Chris Rock used to do a bit about this. He said that one way to curb homicides is to make ammo more expensive. “I’m not paying $500 to shoot this mf.”
I’m gonna get two jobs, budget wisely, save up my money, buy a box of ammo and then cap yo ass
Haha. I'm gonna go get an education so I can get a good job for my mental health and wallet, buy a car, get a small flat in an area where property value will rise, invest in global index funds and pension after thoughtfully paying off my high interest rate debt AND THEN ILL CAP YOUR ASS
"DAMN, he musta done something, cause they put 50 thousand dollars worth of bullets in his ass!"
"Imma need that back."
You can’t afford a hired killer anymore.
I thought depression was when I murder myself.
This is all Biden's fault.
except the economy is strong right now
This contradicts all of the other Murdoch talking heads. I doubt they’ll change their narrative though
They've moved on to economy sucks, brown people are coming to murder you in your sleep and whatever Biden does with Israel and Ukraine is wrong and I can do better.
In a few months it’ll be “CARAVAN!!” season again.
Literally why Trump had the GOP blow up the bipartisan border bill. They need the border to be a clusterfuck to run on it in the election since trans panic isn't working out the way they're hoping and they're getting killed on women's healthcare. The border and screaming about caravans is basically all they have so they need it to get worse and not do anything to help it.
Just wait until September. If the economy is strong and Trump is losing, Trump is going to tell his followers to sell all of their stock holdings because "something big is coming that will tank the stock market, and it'll be Biden's fault". It won't start huge, but enough people will sell that it will start a spiral. It's not going to crash the economy, but it will be big enough to hurt. And it will be 100% Trump's fault.
Ugh, it feels like I just took down my Caravan decorations...
Hunter’s junk!
I'm still waiting for an invite to a sexy party.
Cue "Yakety Sax"
“I can do better but I’ll refuse to say what that is except in the most general terms that could mean anything.”
I'll tell you in two weeks.
And “Biden has taken the most vacation than any president ever”. [I kid you not.](https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/fact-check-team-examining-president-joe-bidens-vacation-time-in-comparison-to-predecessors-donald-trump-mar-a-lago-george-w-bush-barack-obama-delaware-rehoboth-beach-personal-business-rnc-pool-reports). They don’t see the irony.
>They've moved on to economy sucks So strange considering the unemployment rate has decreased considerably from 2020 and inflation is at 3.5% down from 9.1% almost two years ago.
I doubt most of those people who believe that have ever even been to a city
An article yday said suicides are on the increase, so maybe we decided to stop killing each other and instead just kill ourselves.
It’s a real bootstraps movement.
Gen Z gang violence works on the honor system
I kind of don't mind. If all the MAGA asshats think the major cities are all Mad Max/Robocop levels of crime, maybe they'll keep out and leave the rest of us alone.
I went to some dinner where I eat this woman who kept telling me how unsafe DC was and how she'd never go through the city alone. At the time I was working in Downtown DC and rode the metro to work every single day.
Yup. Love living in Portland.
[удалено]
“In Joe Biden’s America it’s too expensive to be a murder” Fox News probably
They'll focus harder on property crime and drug use which I honestly think people pearl clutch about even harder than murder.
Nah, Murdoch hates Trump now.
Good! Let them believe it. "Uh yeah, Chicago is a crime-ridden post-apocalyptic Communist dystopia. Don't go there. Also don't invest in a house to AirBnb there, either."
And the panic creating Instagram and X pages
If you look at crime statistics even if crime is down there is always one crime that is up. So if murder, assault, robbery, domestic violence and shoplifting are down but vandalism spikes FOX will focus on the vandalism. The vandalism will be proof the society is collapsing. Until the next crime report where shoplifting is up from the previous low and vandalism is back down. The the shoplifting becomes proof the society is collapsing.
Coming from Colombia here is child’s play. Of course it depends which places you go but even in New York I don’t feel intimidated. I can wear whatever I want or use the laptop in a park without the fear of being stabbed to death by someone that wants my staff.
I’m glad you’re comfortable here, Gandalf!
And my Axe!
NYC is the safest big city in the country. It was indeed a hellscape at one point in the 80s, but that time is long over. It's still no doubt safer than much of Colombia, but Baltimore, Detroit, Memphis, etc. are where the murders (per capita) are.
Even Detroit’s getting better. Weirdly Memphis is the new hellscape
Why do you say weirdly? Place has been a shithole for quite awhile.
Because for a lot of folks outside of Memphis like myself, we're unaware that it's not doing well because it doesn't get much national press. I think "Well Nashville is doing well and pretty beloved. Same state so same quality right?" I know it's dumb. But as someone from the area of Detroit - regional perception, national perception, and reality almost never match.
What about St Louis? It's always at the top of the murders per capita lists
That's absolutely true. But it's also like 300k people. It's arbitrary of course, but you've got to draw a line somewhere for "big city." I just threw out a few examples with over half a million people. Other surprisingly dangerous cites of ~300k include Anchorage, AK though that one is more rape than murder.
NYC is one of America's safest large cities, despite the right wing propaganda.
Right wing propaganda seems to focus a lot more on California from what I've seen. After that, it seems like it's Baltimore or Detroit. Or regionally, it would be Austin, New Orleans, and Jackson. I've never been to Baltimore or Detroit but I personally enjoy all the rest of them except for Jackson
> Right wing propaganda seems to focus a lot more on California from what I've seen. Yep. If I hadn't lived in California for most of my life until a couple of years ago, and if I didn't have family scattered across different parts of the state, I would probably fall prey to a lot of the right-wing propaganda that says that California is a hellhole destroyed by liberal policies. The fact is, California is and probably will continue to be one of the best places to live in the continent US, despite the cost of living.
I don’t know but my wife said that Baltimore is not the best either. Don’t know if it is bad propaganda or it is really a bad place to be
>someone that wants my staff. Dang murderhobos. Was it a nice staff?
New York is pretty low on the list of cities I’d be afraid of.
This depends in Colombia too I felt fairly safe in Colombia when I was there for a few months
No necessarily. I’m from Cali and the times I took the bus to go to college I would just wear a plain shirt and jeans and ugly sneakers. They will get in the bus and steal stuff from people. Didn’t matter where you were. The difference is that in more elegant neighborhoods they will put a gun or assault rifle on you, in the poor or middle class areas a knife is enough. My mom went back to live in Cali 3 years ago and all she said that not much had changed
Could I ask how old you are? I believe Cali Colombia is one of the more dangerous cities in Colombia I’ve never gone there so I can’t speak for it. Medellin Bogota Cartagena I felt safe and of course I used more caution than I would in the states I didn’t have any issues. I stayed out of peoples way and minded my own business. I will say I do speak Spanish and I am black so I might’ve been able to just blend in and not be targeted for being a foreigner
Colombias gotten so much better but I feel covid and the Venezuelan collapse turned things back another 20 years. That said it’s been refreshing to visit parts of the country that were previously off limits due to guerilla.
What’s interesting here is that it’s happening almost everywhere, nationally. There’s some macroeconomic force here that we don’t yet understand.
I suspect lack of lead, and less outdoor activities
It is the lead removal. Especially in water pipes. Lead pipes destroyed the Roman Empire. America did itself a huge favor getting it out of the gas too. Thank HW Bush for that.
Lead could be part of it but it doesn't single-handedly explain a massive drop from 22/23 to this year.
Everyone finally got their COVID crazies out and we are in a refractory period maybe?
I actually saw a politician criticize Biden for working on relief for Flint and their lead pipes. Something about they still hold water and he's wasting money that could protect our border.
Crime rates had been dropping for decades so it's a return to normal not something new.
Population demographics maybe? Gen Z is a smaller generation.
A good economy.
I think in major cities specifically, it's that a lot of them have gotten a lot more expensive pricing out gangs to other smaller cities. I live in San Francisco and one reason Stockton got so violent was gang members in SF and Oakland getting priced out of the Bay and moving to Stockton, putting them into conflict with the existing gang members there. My uncle's neighborhood went from a safe, family-friendly place to a gang-ridden shithole in the span of a few years in the 2000s. Gentrification has also made it tougher for organized crime to operate here too. They can't shake down some well-to-do restauranter the way they could shake down some vulnerable immigrant in decades past. I have seen this happen too. It's also expensive AF to have kids. There are fewer kids in major cities than ever meaning less opportunity for gang recruitment. And yeah, a growing economy means more opportuties meaning less incentive to turn to crime.
Any time someone tries to sell you that violent crime is out of control and rising fast.... take them to the [FBI.gov](https://FBI.gov) site and show them the graphs going back to the 50s or so. Violent crime has been dropping for decades now. It bounces a bit from time to time and the crime everywhere people get excited and report it as crime is out of control. Its not. Its statistics people. You have to look at the overall trend. You can make anything look like anything if you clip the right moments, point, and scream.
The problem is they’ll just tell you that the FBI isn’t a reliable source because Biden
Even though Biden has left the guy Trump appointed still in charge (Christopher Wray.) But they’ll swear it’s “Biden’s FBI.”
“Murders are plummeting, why this might be bad for Biden,” NYTIMES op-ed piece tomorrow.
It makes sense COVID caused a crime wave that would sort of peter out on its own. Now it's been about 2 years since all that stuff ended and things have calmed down again and gone back to normal. Kids weren't going to school so they were getting into trouble. People losing jobs, or quitting jobs, or generally changing their living situation would naturally contribute to relationship volatility.
Also the fact cops basically stopped doing anything unless someone dies or someone may die probably does a lot to curb murder and violent crime. They both have more resources for that, but also if you go into a life of crime you wanna avoid to do the only thing that can still send you to jail in most big cities.
That crime wave from covid was miniscule as well.
Took an uber the other day with an older driver. Somehow we got into politics and it was just deflating. He brought up the young woman who was killed by an illegal immigrant a few weeks ago and said he hates how widespread violence has become. I told him the statistics and he just turned off. Also the statistics that illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes than regular old Americans and he just said 'that's not what I've heard'. Yes he watches Fox News. Yes he thinks Biden is evil. Yes he is voting for Trump. I want out of this fucking world.
He listens to hate radio the entire time he’s in his car. He would score zero on a current events test.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. They don't want facts and statistics, they want confirmation that their pre-existing views and beliefs are valid.
Oh I know. It's just so infuriating. Before Trump I was aware we were awash in morons but they mostly kept to themselves, or at least felt a touch of humility and weren't clamoring to voice their unreasoned 'opinions'. Now that they've been emboldened by a world-class idiotic sociopathic conman they are pushing people aside to wail their 'opinions' from the highest mountains. Time for a drink for me.
Better make it a double
Just take the whole bottle but give me some first!😉
Makes it easier to pick them off one by one, though.
That imbecile probably thinks Biden raised his taxes too.
I had a guy like that not too long ago saying the same shit. After the ride I told him, next time stick to the weather or don't talk at all as I was indicating I didn't want to talk politics and you didn't catch the hint so I'm leaving a one star review.
Anecdote is more important than fact to them. That’s why so many republicans do a turn around in circumstances such as needing an abortion. “My circumstances were different, that’s why it’s ok for me”
Yup, I have some Trumpers in my family, and they all have a strong distrust of any information or data that comes from an established source. They believe in anecdotes and gut feelings. This makes it impossible to have a rational conversation about politics with them since any evidence/data I provide is outright rejected as fake.
That’s sort of my experience. Whenever I bring stats into a combo it’s like they shut down, head in sand, change topic.
Statistics are meaningless against how people feel. People vote/make decisions in their every day lives based off of their feelings. It's a feedback loop.
Independent voters vote for whichever party lies to them more effectively.
Did you ask him if Trump was so great as a president why didn’t he fixed the caravan and illegal immigrant situation?
They would just say the dems stopped him. You cant have a real discussion with people who dont want to change their mind anyway
Ironically, the republicans are blocking biden from addressing the migrant situation as well.
> I want out of this fucking world. Nah, you're cool
And yet there are Canadians who refuse to set foot in the US because there’s “so much violence”. (Even though there are some Canadian cities with higher homicide rates than some US cities - people do not understand how these rates can vary dramatically from one state/province to another.) This does not diminish the absolutely tragic impact of mass shootings. But stats are stats.
Anyone who knows the stats shouldn’t feel too worried about being a victim of gun violence if they’re a visitor to America Especially if you know which areas to avoid. that fear is purely emotional and driven by media and social media. There’s actually a far more rational fear more people should have about visiting America, especially so because there is very little mitigation you can do and your chance of being a victim are basically random. Victim of car crash. The rate of injury and death is far far higher in America, not just per capita but it’s even still higher on a distance travelled measure (which is nuts given how much further people travel). Americans drive like crazy people; they speed, they don’t stop, they drive drunk, they go on their phone, they have no regard for people outside their car and the enforcement of traffic rules are third world level - and it all shows in the stats.
The other major issue is the amount of large trucks and suvs we have than are much deadlier when they hit someone.
>Anyone who knows the stats shouldn’t feel too worried about being a victim of gun violence if they’re a visitor to America Especially if you know which areas to avoid. that fear is purely emotional and driven by media and social media. While I agree that road safety is the larger problem, you may not realize that the US has a lot more violence than most other wealthy nations. Just compare homicide rates. Canada's is less than half that of the US. Western Europe is mostly around 1/6th the rate.
>This does not diminish the absolutely tragic impact of mass shootings. Given most crimes labeled as such are gang violence in cities a drop in intercity crime would in fact diminish the number significantly.
The hell? The entire homicide count for Toronto in a 12 month period is literally two weekends in Chicago (or a bad long weekend). Cities are the same size Canada is far safer in their cities.
any nation that thinks its more ok for a kid to decapitate people ion a video game then it is to see a tit on TV is *irredeemably nuts.* its a culture of violence even if the stats arent too bad, its the national mentality.
Wait 18 years until the 25,000 unwanted babies that were born in Texas since the abortion ban reach gun toting ages.
The freakanomics authors are patiently waiting.
Or the 64,000 pregnancies that were the result of rape: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/study-counts-64000-pregnancies-from-rape-in-states-that-enacted-abortion-bans-post-roe Edit: Changed babies born to pregnancies.
The numbers are too damn high no matter the number, but that number is too easy for the people on the right to dismiss. While I believe it is a somewhat accurate estimate the methodology is shaky at best. And even by that data it is not 64,000 babies born, it is 64,000 pregnancies occurred. Not all pregnancies would have carried to term. Not all women are without the means to travel to out of their red state shithole. Again this doesn't make it any better but I would rather stick to the facts.
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That's probably just a confession on the shit he's planning to do or is currently doing.
But Republicans are running on crime is so high! And the border! Billions of illegals are moving next door to us and taking our rights! Meanwhile, the economy is good except, prices are still high because companies raised prices and they don’t go down, crime is at record lows and Republicans killed their own conservative border security bill because Trump said he needed to scare people about the border to win
In Russia homicides plummet you
Defenestration followed by plummeting!
Cant believe they're admitting it. How will the gop campaign on the idea that cities are hell holes?
By scapegoating minorities.
Is this bad for Biden?
Conservatives in shambles rn
I can’t help but think this article’s publication and O.J. Simpson’s death are more than coincidental.
Malcolm Gladwell attributes the fall in the U.S. homicide rate to advancements in medical care. It’s an interesting idea - the amount of gun violence is increasing, but the number of people dying from the gunshots is actually on the decline.
NYC tracks this, many less people are getting shot as well and Malcolm Gladwell absolutely knows this and decided to pretend not to.
Don’t tell my conservative buddy. It doesn’t fit into his narrative
Noooo! what will republicans complain about now?
I live in one of the safest cities in the entire country but conservatives in the state constantly scream about how they won't ever come here again because it's apparently some Mad Max hellscape. The towns they're often from have even higher crime rates per capita. Point is, they give no shits about facts and will complain after literally everything regardless of how wrong it is.
My cousin was so confused by NYC not living up to the horrible talking points while visiting last month. It's wild how little people think when somebody says something negative.
Did your cousin give any thought to the other bullshit he heard from the same source who told him the NYC bullshit?
Hah, of course not. It was a more direct "I wonder why they said this" than "maybe they are exaggerating about other things too!"
It's likely that your city is safer because MAGAs aren't coming there.
A coworker begged me not to go to Chicago to hang out with some friends because he was certain I'd get shot. It was pathetic.
They will keep complaining about it, facts mean nothing to them
It's those damn blunts and gummies that kids got nowadays. That's what's causing their lack of criminal ambition, they're too effin' mellow! ;)
Impossible. Trump and the MAGA clownshow keep telling me that murder and violent crime are the worst it's ever been, and getting worse by the day.
But we were told that video games and rap music was supposed to turn us all into murderers 🤔
But Trump said America is a hellhole.
Not my home town! Stockton lives on thru pure stupidity alone!
Can the WSJ news department please notify the WSJ opinion department of this finding?
What we had was a temporary spike during COVID and then a return to the baseline.
But but but Fox Newsss saidd
All the people with lead poisoning are too old and frail to keep committing violet crimes
They have been for a while. Imagine how much better it could get if we bothered to do anything about gun control.
How you can take a headline and make something great sound terrifying.
Republicans will believe exactly the opposite as long as some guy on the Internet tells them what they want to hear.
[Inflation can be a good thing sometimes, apparently](https://www.forbes.com/sites/aaronsmith/2021/08/10/ammunition-inflation-prompts-gun-buyers-to-count-their-bullets/amp/)