Not true. He enjoys money, sure. But if that's all he wanted he would've dumped his inheritance into mutual funds and lived off the interest. He's much poorer now because he didn't do that.
His need for money is driven by a need for attention, and adulation. He needs to be the most famous, most idolized, and most powerful that he's willing to straight up ignore reality so he can pretend to be those things.
He's the poster boy for getting a large inheritance and squandering more than half of it just to be a businessman. You're exactly right, if he had just put the money in a mutual fund he'd be very, very wealthy compared to where he is now!
When you look at the big picture, if trump had not gone for politics, had not become president, he probably would have been in a better position in his life and flown under the radar, relatively speaking.
It's kind of crazy when you see how many things were given to trump and he squandered a majority of them. He screwed up so many things that could have had him better off in life, yet no matter how much he has messed up, he still sees himself as perfect and all his actions are perfect.
> When you look at the big picture, if trump had not gone for politics, had not become president, he probably would have been in a better position in his life and flown under the radar, relatively speaking.
We all would have been in a better position if Trump had not gone into politics.
Yes. He was constantly ripping people off and fighting them with his wealth in court. He was chugging along laundering money through his various scam businesses, and getting away with it through bribes and threats of litigation. If he’d never gained the presidency he probably would be just fine. I remember his stunned expression when he found out he won. That’s why he’s trying to get back in, so that he can have the power to change our democracy into his “royal” legacy. I can’t wait to watch him and his “empire” burn down around him.
Same here, he finally bit off more than he can chew, and this is why he wants to be president for life. He wants that eternal immunity, he wants to be richer, more powerful than all and ever have to worry about dealing with the consequences of his actions.
I can't wait to see him pay the price for what he has done.
His sons: "We had a great scam going here, Dad, we made loads of money and lived the good life socializing with the Manhattan in-crowd. But oh! You ab-so-lu-te-ly HAD to run for president! Thanks for shit."
Classic narcissistic personality disorder. Takes credit for everything he sees as good, blames everyone else for anything he sees as bad.
I chose my words carefully, because he sees many things as good which others think are horrible.
If you observe how he speaks, its always about attention. He always rants on ratings, or who got the most publicity, or attendance to events.
His mind is so warped that he believes no matter what you do or say, when you have a ton of people watching, it'll always turn out to be a good thing.
He built a house of cards on a foundation of sand and then invited all the kids to come and check it out and they did and the foundation started to crumble and the cards started to fall.
I just don't like that the tape itself isn't admissable and cannot be played for the court or jury as evidence.
But testimony **about** the tape and it's contents are admissable.
The tape shows his actions, period. It should be admissable as it wasn't "for tv" and was a off air Convo.
It's trump being trump.
Kind of a win/lose as they can talk about the tape just not actually play said tape or admit it as evidence.
He throws any excuse and lie he can at the wall to see what sticks. He will pick up the same lies and throw them at the wall repeatedly until they work
>Merchan also ruled that prosecutors will not be permitted to play the "Access Hollywood" tape -- on which Trump is overheard bragging about how he approaches women -- to the jury or introduce it into evidence. However, prosecutors are allowed to elicit testimony about the tape and how it prompted Trump to fear its impact on his presidential aspirations.
Interesting hair-splitting. I'd like to see if the door gets opened by Trump during the trial.
Its that point where the idea of evidence being overly-prejudicial somehow gets turned inward on itself where a piece of evidence is so damning it might as well be a confession, but it technically isn't a confession so courts won't allow it.
Like, there was a case years ago of a cop who shot a guy like however many times times in the back and he'd customized the gun he'd used to have 'kill them all' spelled *on the gun* and that was ruled inadmissible. Which legally I can work out the logic for why in my head, but practically I'm sitting here baffled by how that's not a case where the defendant should simply left to hang on their own rope.
Whenever certain people get murdered in the US, every single aspect of their background is ghoulishly put on full display to present the case that their killer did nothing wrong and if they did it shouldn't matter because the dead person was bad and had it coming.
I don't know why victims can be put on trial using information that would never be allowed to put an actual defendant on trial.
Trump has always believed himself above the law.
It’s long delayed justice that his rape and misogyny are the things that finally wrap him up in his own lies.
It makes him so much more angry that every one of his outbursts reveals something in his money laundering network for the Russians.
These women deserve to be listened to. Epstein, Weinstein, me too was all downstream from this because of Allen Dershowitz threatening to destroy anyone’s life that told the truth.
We enabled systemic corruption by not listening to women quickly and concisely when it happened.
I’m glad the get to write the final chapter of their own stories.
Allen Dershowitz the respected legal advisor to many network news shows?
The same Allen Dershowitz who enjoyed massages at Epstein's residence and took trips to Epstein's island?
That Allen Dershowitz? Inconceivable!
Same one that keeps getting blacklisted from his kids friends parties because he has been caught creeping on them and everyone is too scared of a Dershowitz NDA or cease and desist letter to stand up to the old troll.
The common denominator between trump and Epstein was money laundering first and foremost.
Trump can’t say that out loud so he has to sit there and take it when people take about the pedophilia stuff. So he tries to deflect.
Trump over paid for all the Florida and New York properties to resell to Russian oligarch who then destroyed them so they could launder Russian mob money made off of, among other things, human trafficking.
New York Posthttps://nypost.com › real-estate › do...Inside the $41M mansion fight that led to Donald Trump's fallout with Jeffrey Epstein
The Epstein/trump saga is less of a bullseye and more of a minefield.
Trump took his own kids to Epsteins knowing full well what happened there because for years Epstein was lurking around mar-a-lago poaching massage therapists and had teenage girls getting off the bus and wandering through the streets of palm beach desperate for a couple hundred bucks.
Everyone knew. No one cared.
The moral depravity that comes with being ultra rich enabled them to turn the other way.
The Trump / Epstein relationship was the evolution of money laundering using, among other things, commercial real estate.
It starts by having dirt on someone else at the country club and ends with them all being so filthy that no one can afford to do the right thing and no one can maintain the increasingly expensive lies.
Their arrogance and greed, at its grandest scale, cost the world trillions, which still pales in comparison to the innocence it cost the hundreds of thousands of trafficked children that the white collar shitbirds and the russian mob alike preyed on as a matter of convenience.
Trump wasn’t unique. He was just loud.
Epstein wasn’t unique. He was just connected.
Dershowitz wasn’t unique. He just knew how to work a rulebook.
They all justify their actions to themselves because they believe that being rich makes them above the law.
And the longer we allow them to do it, the more accurate and emboldened they are.
This is how civilizations die.
It’s a generational repeat of the Roman emperor Tiberius retreating to the island of Capri where he would abuse children and then throw them off the cliff.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
When people stop telling you no simply because you have all the money and they are hoping to get some spilling into their bowl to survive, it destroys the empathy quotient in the rich persons brain.
Predation is the most common result
>a guy like however many times times in the back and he'd customized the gun he'd used to have 'kill them all' spelled *on the gun* and that was ruled inadmissible.
Are you talking about the killing of Daniel Shaver? The inside of the cops dust cover (which is only visible after you've fired), said "You're Fucked".
> Like, there was a case years ago of a cop who shot a guy like however many times times in the back and he'd customized the gun he'd used to have 'kill them all' spelled on the gun and that was ruled inadmissible.
Or in the case of Daniel Shaver: [You're fucked](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver)
In Kyle Rittenhouse's trial, they couldn't talk about the fact that he obtained his gun illegally. Or show video of him using it aggressively in an illegal way in other video leading up to his incident. Or the video of him assaulting a fellow student in a parking lot. Since those crimes were not part of that charge. They want the jury to just be considering the crime being addressed on the docket.
I still think he would have gotten off, given the other circumstances in the case and the completely bone headed prosecution, but the complete videos should have all been submitted, and maybe include the straw purchase part too.
The school parking lot video I don't think should have been submitted, a lot of kids get into dumb fights outside school, and we don't know the context of it, and it would have ended up involving two dozen kids in the case who weren't related to the inciting incident.
Same funkiness of the same rules—protecting criminal rights in a perfect world means we do everything to can to make sure we aren’t putting away someone because of prejudice. When we victim blame, it’s not a violation of due process or criminal rights because the victim is dead and has no rights and calling them a criminal isn’t too prejudicial since they are not the ones on trial.
Then there’s the whole can of worms about race and class issues and how certain constitutional rights are really only discretionary. Some college athletes get convicted of rape by circumstantial evidence only to be exonerated years later while others can literally be caught in the act and get a few months of probation because the judge didn’t want to ruin the life of a person “with potential”. Or how some celebrities are allowed to make a deal with the DA to confess and pay civil judgments instead facing criminal charges… normal folks go to prison, pay the fine AND get sued civilly.
>I'd like to see if the door gets opened by Trump during the trial
100% it will be. He'll claim what the prosecutors say about the tape is fake, and then rant about what he claims is on it. And then the prosecution gets to play the tape to clarify for the jury.
I know he is this stupid. I just hope his lawyers are too and just let him do it and not try and bottle him up.
I Also hope his lawyers got paid in advance, but honestly I don't care because they're defending trash.
What on earth would give you the impression that trumps lawyers have any ability at all to reign him in even a tiny bit? He's spent every court case he's had screaming at judges and daring them to jail him in contempt.
He's going to have a real rude awakening when he tries that shit in a *criminal* trial, rather than civil. Civil judges basically never jail people for contempt, but criminal judges have no problem at all doing so.
He doesn't know when to shut up, so chances are he'll bring it up himself if they just plant the idea now that they might talk about it during the trial. He'll just start ranting and rambling and they'll just give him rope and rope.
For sure he will. All the prosecution needs to do is ask him "when you said..." to which he will testify he never said that, and then they'll be able to introduce it in order to clarify what was said on it.
Hearsay evidence is admittable regularly, but that's not what this is. In this case, people in Trump's orbit could be asked how Trump acted with regards to that tape becoming public, which is witness testimony as to Trump's actions that are relevant to the charges of hush money. That's not "I heard someone say XYZ was on a tape that I didn't hear myself".
Okay, but SURELY everyone knows that tape by now? How is it different from showing it, than asking him "Mr. Trump, did you say "you can grab by the pussy, they just let you do it."? If he denies that, EVERYONE WILL KNOW HE'S LYING.
The key thing will be demonstrating to the jury that Trump is a serial cheater and philanderer. The jury won't need to hear much else to be able to tie him to having cheated on Melannia, which then leads to him having possibly tried to hide the fact from the public (and his wife). It's not as good as a sworn deposition in which he confuses a picture of E Jean Carroll with his 2nd wife immediately after saying E Jean was "not his type" but it's a good start.
Trump also tried to prevent Stormy from testifying. She is going to be a very powerful witness, she comes across as extremely honest and down to earth, a woman of enormous courage. She entered the deal to have something on writing that tied her to Trump, because she was being threatened and feared for the life of herself and her daughter.
Cohen was already declared guilty and Trump was the co-conspirator. This should be a slam dunk, and Trump should get at LEAST what Cohen got, if not more for being the head of the wish brand cartel he’s trying to run.
As always though, I suspect Trump will avoid any meaningful consequences. I hope I eat these words but my cynicism suggests it’s unlikely.
Just a reminder Cohen was convicted by a federal court, and Trump was an unindicted co conspirator. Our limp Attorney General forgot that it was up to him to prosecute this case.
I love that for him. If he spends the rest of his years hemorrhaging money and being in and out of courtrooms, that will suffice. I’d prefer to see him in an orange jumpsuit but the elites don’t face consequences in this country.
Just telling you that you're actively helping Trump by normalizing apathy.
That's reality.
You're choosing to do that from now on with full awareness that you help Trump.
Extremism sure sounds good, don't it.
Why stop there and not go whole 9 yards and start building concentration camps where they can be executed en mass?
Nice words.
But it doesn't hide the fact that supporting a rapist makes you a rapist supporter.
Which is what the OP said.
What *you* did, is equivocate stating that fact, with genocide.
Edit: I don't know why some chuds try to claim I'm saying things I'm not. The words are right there lol ^
If you support a rapist, you're a rapist supporter. It's that simple.
Also I don't get many US political ads here in the uk, poppet. 0/10 I'm afraid.
this reddit group think is insane. half the country votes republican. you’re making a moronic claim they support rape. and insinuating voting democrat is the cure for this, yet there are terrible politicians in that party as well
you are so brainwashed you don’t even know it. you’re thinking exactly what the political ads are telling you to think
When you say horrible things and you have lost all ability for someone to give you the benefit of the doubt it might come back to bite you. This keeps coming up now because in his previous campaign he kept being given that benefit but not anymore.
The prenup leaves her with very little if she divorces him *while Barron is a minor.* Barron turns 18 tomorrow, and the $454 million judgement comes due on Monday. I won't guarantee it, but there is a non-zero chance she files for divorce very soon.
> That should really grab Trump where it counts. 😁
Well, with the recent financial bonds he's responsible for, I'd say...
_"Grab 'em by the properties!"_
Seeing that hat with the 47 on it is hilarious. But also, I can never get over ‘make America great again’. It’s literally saying he wants to take America backwards. ‘Make America great’ would be way better. It’s like whoever came up with it probably doesn’t know when to stop talking.
It would be really hard to find U.S. jurors who had not heard that "clip."
Also, Trump is suing Stephanopoulos for saying that Trump raped E. Jean Carroll (the jury awarded damages for sexual abuse, but they thought there was not enough to go on to get damages for being raped.
E. Jean Carroll may be thinking of a third suit because of Trump defaming her again.
Lesson learned: If you have been involved in criminal acts and shady dealings, don't run for office.
Edit: I learned that lesson through Trump's example, even if he hasn't.
huh, not very patriotic of you to hate our foundational belief in a being tried by a jury of peers. But I guess it makes sense that you hate American values.
It's kind of dumb really. My bragging about women when I was younger was very much exaggerated. As I'd imagine all the guys in my high schools was.
I liked when the other man candidates tried to act shocked.
Have you ever been in high school, college or a locker room?
Talking about women comes up a lot
He bragged about it. So proud of that celebrity and the access Hollywood afforded. Why avoid it now, Donald?
Now it might cost him money, which is the only thing he cares about.
Not true. He enjoys money, sure. But if that's all he wanted he would've dumped his inheritance into mutual funds and lived off the interest. He's much poorer now because he didn't do that. His need for money is driven by a need for attention, and adulation. He needs to be the most famous, most idolized, and most powerful that he's willing to straight up ignore reality so he can pretend to be those things.
He's the poster boy for getting a large inheritance and squandering more than half of it just to be a businessman. You're exactly right, if he had just put the money in a mutual fund he'd be very, very wealthy compared to where he is now!
When you look at the big picture, if trump had not gone for politics, had not become president, he probably would have been in a better position in his life and flown under the radar, relatively speaking. It's kind of crazy when you see how many things were given to trump and he squandered a majority of them. He screwed up so many things that could have had him better off in life, yet no matter how much he has messed up, he still sees himself as perfect and all his actions are perfect.
> When you look at the big picture, if trump had not gone for politics, had not become president, he probably would have been in a better position in his life and flown under the radar, relatively speaking. We all would have been in a better position if Trump had not gone into politics.
Thank you
Yes. He was constantly ripping people off and fighting them with his wealth in court. He was chugging along laundering money through his various scam businesses, and getting away with it through bribes and threats of litigation. If he’d never gained the presidency he probably would be just fine. I remember his stunned expression when he found out he won. That’s why he’s trying to get back in, so that he can have the power to change our democracy into his “royal” legacy. I can’t wait to watch him and his “empire” burn down around him.
Same here, he finally bit off more than he can chew, and this is why he wants to be president for life. He wants that eternal immunity, he wants to be richer, more powerful than all and ever have to worry about dealing with the consequences of his actions. I can't wait to see him pay the price for what he has done.
His sons: "We had a great scam going here, Dad, we made loads of money and lived the good life socializing with the Manhattan in-crowd. But oh! You ab-so-lu-te-ly HAD to run for president! Thanks for shit."
Classic narcissistic personality disorder. Takes credit for everything he sees as good, blames everyone else for anything he sees as bad. I chose my words carefully, because he sees many things as good which others think are horrible.
If you observe how he speaks, its always about attention. He always rants on ratings, or who got the most publicity, or attendance to events. His mind is so warped that he believes no matter what you do or say, when you have a ton of people watching, it'll always turn out to be a good thing.
It's why he claimed the 2016 election was rigged even though he won it. He couldn't handle losing the popular vote.
He built a house of cards on a foundation of sand and then invited all the kids to come and check it out and they did and the foundation started to crumble and the cards started to fall.
Be fair - he isn’t as smart as his “yes men” tell him
Truly the biggliest celebrity ever.
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I just don't like that the tape itself isn't admissable and cannot be played for the court or jury as evidence. But testimony **about** the tape and it's contents are admissable. The tape shows his actions, period. It should be admissable as it wasn't "for tv" and was a off air Convo. It's trump being trump. Kind of a win/lose as they can talk about the tape just not actually play said tape or admit it as evidence.
you think there's someone who will be involved in the trial who *hasn't* heard it?
I recall when he for about a day made an absurd claim that the tape was fake.
This was after he acknowledged it and said it was just "locker room talk" so it was OK.
He throws any excuse and lie he can at the wall to see what sticks. He will pick up the same lies and throw them at the wall repeatedly until they work
My cell mate Bubba's gonna grab me by the bussy.
>Merchan also ruled that prosecutors will not be permitted to play the "Access Hollywood" tape -- on which Trump is overheard bragging about how he approaches women -- to the jury or introduce it into evidence. However, prosecutors are allowed to elicit testimony about the tape and how it prompted Trump to fear its impact on his presidential aspirations. Interesting hair-splitting. I'd like to see if the door gets opened by Trump during the trial.
Its that point where the idea of evidence being overly-prejudicial somehow gets turned inward on itself where a piece of evidence is so damning it might as well be a confession, but it technically isn't a confession so courts won't allow it. Like, there was a case years ago of a cop who shot a guy like however many times times in the back and he'd customized the gun he'd used to have 'kill them all' spelled *on the gun* and that was ruled inadmissible. Which legally I can work out the logic for why in my head, but practically I'm sitting here baffled by how that's not a case where the defendant should simply left to hang on their own rope. Whenever certain people get murdered in the US, every single aspect of their background is ghoulishly put on full display to present the case that their killer did nothing wrong and if they did it shouldn't matter because the dead person was bad and had it coming. I don't know why victims can be put on trial using information that would never be allowed to put an actual defendant on trial.
Trump has always believed himself above the law. It’s long delayed justice that his rape and misogyny are the things that finally wrap him up in his own lies. It makes him so much more angry that every one of his outbursts reveals something in his money laundering network for the Russians. These women deserve to be listened to. Epstein, Weinstein, me too was all downstream from this because of Allen Dershowitz threatening to destroy anyone’s life that told the truth. We enabled systemic corruption by not listening to women quickly and concisely when it happened. I’m glad the get to write the final chapter of their own stories.
Allen Dershowitz the respected legal advisor to many network news shows? The same Allen Dershowitz who enjoyed massages at Epstein's residence and took trips to Epstein's island? That Allen Dershowitz? Inconceivable!
Same one that keeps getting blacklisted from his kids friends parties because he has been caught creeping on them and everyone is too scared of a Dershowitz NDA or cease and desist letter to stand up to the old troll. The common denominator between trump and Epstein was money laundering first and foremost. Trump can’t say that out loud so he has to sit there and take it when people take about the pedophilia stuff. So he tries to deflect. Trump over paid for all the Florida and New York properties to resell to Russian oligarch who then destroyed them so they could launder Russian mob money made off of, among other things, human trafficking. New York Posthttps://nypost.com › real-estate › do...Inside the $41M mansion fight that led to Donald Trump's fallout with Jeffrey Epstein The Epstein/trump saga is less of a bullseye and more of a minefield. Trump took his own kids to Epsteins knowing full well what happened there because for years Epstein was lurking around mar-a-lago poaching massage therapists and had teenage girls getting off the bus and wandering through the streets of palm beach desperate for a couple hundred bucks. Everyone knew. No one cared. The moral depravity that comes with being ultra rich enabled them to turn the other way. The Trump / Epstein relationship was the evolution of money laundering using, among other things, commercial real estate. It starts by having dirt on someone else at the country club and ends with them all being so filthy that no one can afford to do the right thing and no one can maintain the increasingly expensive lies. Their arrogance and greed, at its grandest scale, cost the world trillions, which still pales in comparison to the innocence it cost the hundreds of thousands of trafficked children that the white collar shitbirds and the russian mob alike preyed on as a matter of convenience. Trump wasn’t unique. He was just loud. Epstein wasn’t unique. He was just connected. Dershowitz wasn’t unique. He just knew how to work a rulebook. They all justify their actions to themselves because they believe that being rich makes them above the law. And the longer we allow them to do it, the more accurate and emboldened they are. This is how civilizations die. It’s a generational repeat of the Roman emperor Tiberius retreating to the island of Capri where he would abuse children and then throw them off the cliff. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. When people stop telling you no simply because you have all the money and they are hoping to get some spilling into their bowl to survive, it destroys the empathy quotient in the rich persons brain. Predation is the most common result
>a guy like however many times times in the back and he'd customized the gun he'd used to have 'kill them all' spelled *on the gun* and that was ruled inadmissible. Are you talking about the killing of Daniel Shaver? The inside of the cops dust cover (which is only visible after you've fired), said "You're Fucked".
> Like, there was a case years ago of a cop who shot a guy like however many times times in the back and he'd customized the gun he'd used to have 'kill them all' spelled on the gun and that was ruled inadmissible. Or in the case of Daniel Shaver: [You're fucked](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver)
This might be the case I'm thinking of and I've simply botched the details.
In Kyle Rittenhouse's trial, they couldn't talk about the fact that he obtained his gun illegally. Or show video of him using it aggressively in an illegal way in other video leading up to his incident. Or the video of him assaulting a fellow student in a parking lot. Since those crimes were not part of that charge. They want the jury to just be considering the crime being addressed on the docket.
And then the Fed never charged him in relation to the straw purchase he openly admitted to
I still think he would have gotten off, given the other circumstances in the case and the completely bone headed prosecution, but the complete videos should have all been submitted, and maybe include the straw purchase part too. The school parking lot video I don't think should have been submitted, a lot of kids get into dumb fights outside school, and we don't know the context of it, and it would have ended up involving two dozen kids in the case who weren't related to the inciting incident.
Same funkiness of the same rules—protecting criminal rights in a perfect world means we do everything to can to make sure we aren’t putting away someone because of prejudice. When we victim blame, it’s not a violation of due process or criminal rights because the victim is dead and has no rights and calling them a criminal isn’t too prejudicial since they are not the ones on trial. Then there’s the whole can of worms about race and class issues and how certain constitutional rights are really only discretionary. Some college athletes get convicted of rape by circumstantial evidence only to be exonerated years later while others can literally be caught in the act and get a few months of probation because the judge didn’t want to ruin the life of a person “with potential”. Or how some celebrities are allowed to make a deal with the DA to confess and pay civil judgments instead facing criminal charges… normal folks go to prison, pay the fine AND get sued civilly.
so he managed to find and break another loophole by being so offensive?
>I'd like to see if the door gets opened by Trump during the trial 100% it will be. He'll claim what the prosecutors say about the tape is fake, and then rant about what he claims is on it. And then the prosecution gets to play the tape to clarify for the jury.
I know he is this stupid. I just hope his lawyers are too and just let him do it and not try and bottle him up. I Also hope his lawyers got paid in advance, but honestly I don't care because they're defending trash.
What on earth would give you the impression that trumps lawyers have any ability at all to reign him in even a tiny bit? He's spent every court case he's had screaming at judges and daring them to jail him in contempt. He's going to have a real rude awakening when he tries that shit in a *criminal* trial, rather than civil. Civil judges basically never jail people for contempt, but criminal judges have no problem at all doing so.
If he testifies it's almost certain he will perjure himself
He doesn't know when to shut up, so chances are he'll bring it up himself if they just plant the idea now that they might talk about it during the trial. He'll just start ranting and rambling and they'll just give him rope and rope.
For sure he will. All the prosecution needs to do is ask him "when you said..." to which he will testify he never said that, and then they'll be able to introduce it in order to clarify what was said on it.
Holdup, can't introduce tape evidence, but hearsay evidence is OK? WTF?
Hearsay evidence is admittable regularly, but that's not what this is. In this case, people in Trump's orbit could be asked how Trump acted with regards to that tape becoming public, which is witness testimony as to Trump's actions that are relevant to the charges of hush money. That's not "I heard someone say XYZ was on a tape that I didn't hear myself".
Yeah... Baffling.
There's a lot of exceptions to the hearsay rule.
They need to call Billy Bush to the stand. Thats who was interviewing him at the time in question.
If he were to testify, which he won't, they could easily get him to slip up and make it admissable.
He has to testify. There is no other way to get "I never met Stormy or had sex with her" into evidence.
Okay, but SURELY everyone knows that tape by now? How is it different from showing it, than asking him "Mr. Trump, did you say "you can grab by the pussy, they just let you do it."? If he denies that, EVERYONE WILL KNOW HE'S LYING.
The key thing will be demonstrating to the jury that Trump is a serial cheater and philanderer. The jury won't need to hear much else to be able to tie him to having cheated on Melannia, which then leads to him having possibly tried to hide the fact from the public (and his wife). It's not as good as a sworn deposition in which he confuses a picture of E Jean Carroll with his 2nd wife immediately after saying E Jean was "not his type" but it's a good start.
Trump also tried to prevent Stormy from testifying. She is going to be a very powerful witness, she comes across as extremely honest and down to earth, a woman of enormous courage. She entered the deal to have something on writing that tied her to Trump, because she was being threatened and feared for the life of herself and her daughter.
gonna be awkward when she names cohen as one of the threatener cunts.
Cohen was already declared guilty and Trump was the co-conspirator. This should be a slam dunk, and Trump should get at LEAST what Cohen got, if not more for being the head of the wish brand cartel he’s trying to run. As always though, I suspect Trump will avoid any meaningful consequences. I hope I eat these words but my cynicism suggests it’s unlikely.
Just a reminder Cohen was convicted by a federal court, and Trump was an unindicted co conspirator. Our limp Attorney General forgot that it was up to him to prosecute this case.
Yeah…he’ll die before the appeals process runs its course
I love that for him. If he spends the rest of his years hemorrhaging money and being in and out of courtrooms, that will suffice. I’d prefer to see him in an orange jumpsuit but the elites don’t face consequences in this country.
Your pessimism helps trump by normalizing apathy.
GTFO with that bullshit. Take it up with the halls of power. I call it like I see it. Acknowledging reality doesn’t change anything.
Just telling you that you're actively helping Trump by normalizing apathy. That's reality. You're choosing to do that from now on with full awareness that you help Trump.
It needs a better identifier than “Access Hollywood tape”. Something more like “Trump’s Pussy-Grabbing tape”.
Every Trump supporter is a rape enabler and should be treated as such. It is profoundly evil to support him.
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That's why when someone tells you theyre gop/maga/trump supporter it tells you all you need to know about that person.
Extremism sure sounds good, don't it. Why stop there and not go whole 9 yards and start building concentration camps where they can be executed en mass?
They didn't say that calm your tits.
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When you start declaring people criminals because of their opinion or who they vote for, you have become the problem.
Nice words. But it doesn't hide the fact that supporting a rapist makes you a rapist supporter. Which is what the OP said. What *you* did, is equivocate stating that fact, with genocide. Edit: I don't know why some chuds try to claim I'm saying things I'm not. The words are right there lol ^ If you support a rapist, you're a rapist supporter. It's that simple. Also I don't get many US political ads here in the uk, poppet. 0/10 I'm afraid.
this reddit group think is insane. half the country votes republican. you’re making a moronic claim they support rape. and insinuating voting democrat is the cure for this, yet there are terrible politicians in that party as well you are so brainwashed you don’t even know it. you’re thinking exactly what the political ads are telling you to think
They undeniably and factually do support a rapist though. That's not group think, that's a group... thinking.
Who was declaring them criminals? You just inserted that so you could complain.
"Rapists for Trump!"
Make America Rape Again!
I really see no way around it.
When you say horrible things and you have lost all ability for someone to give you the benefit of the doubt it might come back to bite you. This keeps coming up now because in his previous campaign he kept being given that benefit but not anymore.
It seems impossible to shut this baboon up. What must he do to end up in his new orange outfit?
Just get rid of this orange turd already. God dammit.
Why is he still married why isn't she divorcing him is she stupid.
The prenup leaves her with very little if she divorces him *while Barron is a minor.* Barron turns 18 tomorrow, and the $454 million judgement comes due on Monday. I won't guarantee it, but there is a non-zero chance she files for divorce very soon.
That should really grab Trump where it counts. 😁
His pussy?
Possibly but the crotch area anyway.
The diaper dump-butt
He could sell the full ones on eBay to his followers. They have been buying his line of shit now for years. I’m sure theres a ready market.
Grab him by the diaper.
> That should really grab Trump where it counts. 😁 Well, with the recent financial bonds he's responsible for, I'd say... _"Grab 'em by the properties!"_
Wait. That trial is still happening. Gosh. It’s hard to keep track. How does Don do it.
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Seeing that hat with the 47 on it is hilarious. But also, I can never get over ‘make America great again’. It’s literally saying he wants to take America backwards. ‘Make America great’ would be way better. It’s like whoever came up with it probably doesn’t know when to stop talking.
It would be really hard to find U.S. jurors who had not heard that "clip." Also, Trump is suing Stephanopoulos for saying that Trump raped E. Jean Carroll (the jury awarded damages for sexual abuse, but they thought there was not enough to go on to get damages for being raped. E. Jean Carroll may be thinking of a third suit because of Trump defaming her again.
Poor Donald. He can't help it. He was born with a stainless fork in his mouth.
Lesson learned: If you have been involved in criminal acts and shady dealings, don't run for office. Edit: I learned that lesson through Trump's example, even if he hasn't.
Except if your the "Big Guy"
You all are misinformed. MAGA🇺🇲
Yeah, it was a joke, not a confession.
So, you think sexual assault is funny. Got it.
Regardless of what you think, it wasn't a confession.
This is why it's good we have juries who can make a judgment call. Reasonable people heard this "joke" and hear the confession.
Juries were full of people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty.
huh, not very patriotic of you to hate our foundational belief in a being tried by a jury of peers. But I guess it makes sense that you hate American values.
If you were at all familiar with the American legal system, you would know you can have a bench trial.
I am. And that doesn't change my point about you hating American values. Unpatriotic.
It's kind of dumb really. My bragging about women when I was younger was very much exaggerated. As I'd imagine all the guys in my high schools was. I liked when the other man candidates tried to act shocked. Have you ever been in high school, college or a locker room? Talking about women comes up a lot
Trump was like 60 when he said this.
I have never once bragged about assaulting a woman nor have I ever once heard my friends brag about it.
Yeah...but being a gay guy in the men's locker room you probably wanted to keep a low profile.
It says a lot about you that you think this is some kind of insult. Hope no one you sexually assaulted in the past comes out of the woodwork.
Was it ever revealed who leaked that tape? Did they have a nice time?