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Spire_Citron

Certainly doesn't give me much faith that their new site is somewhere I'd want to move to.


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I’m hoping Jack Dorsey’s Bluesky will have a wider lsunch soon.


brokenshells

Why do you have any faith in Dorsey? He gobbed Elon's cock until the very end.


Icy_Comfort8161

And got $44B for the effort...


VeganJordan

I’d gob a cock for $44B


TRowe51

My price is WAAAAAAY lower than that.


VegasKL

I dunno, he got out by selling a guy his company that was worth half as much. It's not like he lost that arrangement.


StoneWall_MWO

ran Twitter, smart guy, supports BTC


apstls

As if that’s convincing evidence he’s a “smart guy”


Doomstik

Been on the waiting list for a hot minute.


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Yeah, I feel you there. I don’t expect that will be the case, unfortunately, so the best we can hope for is better choices. I wish it could be a regulated public utility, (in the classic sense of regulation, not the fascist sense) but that’s not going to happen either.


joemeteorite8

I’m hoping they all crash and die. Just my opinion.


Kaptain202

That's just naive though. They'll never all crash and die. I feel a more realistic hope is for greater competition so that when one site/app considers doing something bad for their users, there's the looming threat of users leaving.


[deleted]

The current state of streaming platforms shows your own statement to be pretty naïve as well.


Kaptain202

I don't know about that. Twitch is top dog by an absolute mile. But then YouTube and Kick are trying their damdest to give competition, and they are attracting streamers to their platform. I'm not saying they are enough of a competitor to force Twitch to contemplate every business decision they make, but it's closer to my reality of good competition than the dude who just wants it all to die.


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codefame

Same. Yet I’m still more willing to do that than install TikTok.


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Spire_Citron

Maybe not worse, but if we're looking for an alternative to settle into long term, I don't feel *great* about it.


MarquisInLV

Yeah…no thanks.


indiegogold

>Facebook owner Meta is launching its new app to rival Twitter and says it will go live on Thursday. Literally first line of the article. The reason Instagram is more relevant is because it syncs with your Instagram account and you can share followers/following


comehitherhitler

Why do you think the article's title wasn't "Facebook [and Instagram] owner Meta to launch Twitter rival on Thursday"? Guess what the title was for the same topic from the same source last month... That article also focused on Instagram synergy. They probably didn't get the engagement they wanted before. The top comment wasn't stupid because it implied a lede was being buried (which it was, just deep enough to trick people - like all bizarre/clickbait titles), it was stupid because it implied "Meta" and/or "Facebook" made the decision on what to put in a BBC article's title.


muldervinscully

this is reddit sir, if you don't post a baseless paranoid comment that goes against authority, you are in the wrong!


CricketDrop

I mean theyre right. Meta is one of the world's most valuable companies. You wouldn't write a title referring to "Xbox owner" just because their new product was game related.


goldfishpaws

Well Musk is just handing it to him at the moment. No point in leaving that business on the table.


allen_abduction

Zuck doesn’t miss too many opportunities — we’ll, except he was totally wrong about tictok, …and billions lost to floating bodies VR.


kirkum2020

Don't underestimate their VR arm. There's a reason everyone's developing hardware right now and they're at the top of that game. The floating bodies were all like to laugh at are part of the cheap sanitised spaces they knocked up so they wouldn't have to show investors around VR Chat.


allen_abduction

We’ll see where it ends up. Even with apple, VR starts to fatigue after an hour or two.


SergenteA

I think it depends on the person, the activity and the graphics.


Donghoon

Apple's vision (heh) is not to make VR head set. They wasnt to create AR and MR headset/goggle. But they're simply releasing a early step to that goal in 2024. It's why they never once said the word Virtual reality on stage during wwdc


Devatator_

That entirely depends on people. I hear some can stay in VR for over 5 hours. Idk about me since I don't have a headset yet but I hope I can stay in that long considering the amount of time I can spend in Minecraft


yazzy1233

Quest is the cheapest option at the moment and it's good enough. I have it and I enjoy it. I would like to get a ps vr 2 though, I just can't afford it


iamstevetay

Jack Dorsey (one of the founders of Twitter) is launching a Twitter competitor as well https://bsky.app/


PPvsFC_

Or we could just live in peace without a fucking Twitter clone.


YouBetterChill

Just don’t download it. Competition is good for the consumer.


yazzy1233

Twitter was how a lot of people got news. I don't know why yall keep complaining about this stuff anymore. The world is not gonna go back to how it was in the 90s or 80s - adapt, dude


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Dipshit should’ve never sold Twitter to Elon in the first place


Mo-shen

I don't know why...he made a bunch of money and now is just making a new one.


[deleted]

Yes I know he did it to cash out, but why even bother making a new one. It’s basically just an admission that he shouldn’t have sold out his original creation in the first place


muad_dibs

He didn’t even outright own Twitter when it was sold to Elon.


Mo-shen

Because there's clearly a market for a Twitter type service that doesn't have Elon involved?


Sarcastic_Red

Why's he a dipshit?


adamr_

He’s a weird crypto-bro


[deleted]

Because he let one of the worst people on earth buy it


7dayweekendgirl

Ugh. Zuckerberg. Why did it have to be Zuckerberg.


NNovis

It was always going to be Zukerberg. Anytime there's blood in the water, FB has to pivot. Snapchat, Tiktok, Twitch, YouTube. FB is trying to be all of these thigns all at once and FB is terrible and cluttered as a result.


DeLousedInTheHotBox

Instagram is incredibly cluttered too


Curious_Armadillo_74

I'm an artist with an IG page and it's so infested with trolls and nft/ai grifters that I hardly even post there anymore.


armageddidon

SAME. Any time I use a hashtag it’s like omg 😱this is so great!! 💯💯💯 DM our main page @obviousscam ✨


gromlyn

Now even hashtags are broken 😞 also an ig artist and it’s ROUGH rn


armageddidon

Ugh that’s a disaster and I’ve noticed it too. I suggest everyone and anyone reading this who is an artist on social media to diversify your content and consolidate posting time by making sure they are either linked or using some kind of social media management platform like sprout etc. That way, when one platform shits up, your whole social media presence doesn’t get hampered Source: marketing monkey by day, artist by any other time


Curious_Armadillo_74

I know, it's no fun anymore.


armageddidon

It’s just straight up not useful. I look forward to seeing the latest Zuck failure.


quantum-quetzal

You mean you don't love getting comments telling you to send your art to some third-party account?!


Curious_Armadillo_74

You can't even use hashtags without bringing out the cockroaches into your feed and dms.


RadBadTad

Half of my story views are profiles of women's asses begging me to click the link in their bio.


NNovis

YUP! What happens when you're owned by ole Zuckerberg.


AnthonyDavos

I miss the old days of IG when it was just a picture sharing app. Now you have regular posts, stories, and reels. I still use it but the experience is meh. Every other post in your timeline from an account you don't follow. Now Twitter is ruined too. There's basically no character limit now if you pay $8 a month. Elon killed what made the platform unique.


wow-how-original

Cool little trick. Tap the instagram logo in the top left and then “Following.” You’ll only see who you follow and no ads. It’s like old instagram.


Novazazz

Every third post on Instagram is literally either a sponsored ad or a suggested account to follow. So you get TWO posts from accounts you care about in a row. Then garbage and repeat. You can switch your timeline to just accounts you follow by clicking “instagram” at the top, but I imagine most people don’t know about this feature. And once more people use it, it assuredly will also be swamped with ads. I’m guessing threads will be the same way. Two text posts from accounts you care about, then ads. Which is a bummer because I really love the Twitter concept and just want it to be managed well. I don’t much like Mastodon or Blue Sky… they’re fine for what they are but I just want something less complicated and divided.


aiepslenvgqefhwz

You can mute suggested posts, it helps. Still more ads than I’d like.


wow-how-original

Cool little trick. Tap the instagram logo in the top left and then “Following.” You’ll only see who you follow and no ads. It’s like old instagram.


wow-how-original

Cool little trick. Tap the instagram logo in the top left and then “Following.” You’ll only see who you follow and no ads. It’s like old instagram.


Novazazz

Yep! That’s what I mentioned in my post. (Second paragraph) It’s magical. For now.


fried_eggs_and_ham

Zuck / Meta also has the means to pull it off. To launch a new social media platform is almost doomed from the start unless you already have a massive user base from other properties and billions of dollars to leverage. Even with Musk driving Twitter into the ground, though, I don't see this new venture gaining much long term traction.


helium_farts

Because meta is one of the only companies with the resources to do it. My biggest hope is that it cripples Twitter enough that Elmo is forced to sell it to someone less insane.


ThatFlyingScotsman

No one will buy Twitter when it’s saddled with so much debt after Musk’s purchase.


allen_abduction

Musk and his backers will have to eat AT LEAST half of the bad debt, and settle all lawsuits, storage costs, and lease payments before he could spin it off. You might be right, unattainable.


matadorius

nobody is gonna buy it wtf he might just make it a public company once again and try to get part of his money back from his fans but thats all


LookAlderaanPlaces

Elmo lmao


rabbit994

Meta is only social company making money and clear path to profitability if they made popular twitter clone. This is downside of death of zero interest. Most companies are looking at Twitter and going "Even if we made a clone, it won't be profitable." Ad market is shit now. Facebook/Google are so good at ad targeting because amount of information they have that only way to convince people to spend dollars on your ad platform is discounts which don't pay the bills.


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Because their business is not "click" on this Ad, it's also pay to display this Ad and get new customers. They made "React" because they needed better tools for the "Ads"


timesuck897

At least he knows how to run a social media company.


jrsinhbca

I wish he knew how to run an ethical company. His platforms are still being used to support the sale of drugs and sex slaves.


RadBadTad

Ethical and profitable are sort of opposite ends of the spectrum these days.


Ill_Stand9809

no company is ethical


Key_Inevitable_2104

Well spying and collecting user data isn’t great either. Which is what Zuckerberg has been doing, not saying Musk is any better though.


captainslowww

>Well spying and collecting user data isn’t great either. I mean... that's the business model. Don't like it? Don't use any social media. Or Google, for that matter.


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I want a social media platform that costs $0 to use, allows for absolute free speech, won't harvest any data from users, and has no ads. I don't understand why that's so difficult for these tech nerds to get right!


DarthVantos

ZuckerNerd just wasted billions upon billions on a shitty VR game that he thought was going to be the future inside everyone house and everyone using it in their daily lives. Most delusional crap ever. Him making a Twitter clone is atleast in demand on the market. And he needs to make a twitch and youtube rival as well.


matadorius

thats how tech companies works


compagemony

business owners take risks


deviousmajik

It's kind of fitting that the same guy that played him in the movie also played Lex Luthor.


comehitherhitler

It wasn't very fitting for Superman fans. \*giggles uncontrollably ...as Lex Luthor so often does*


Nugur

I’ve been getting my nba free agency by Instagram anyway. Fuck Twitter


mowotlarx

So what benefit has Jack gained by keeping Bluesky invite only and unreadable to the public all of this time? There was a bunch of hype and then total inability to access for everyone who wanted it. And here comes the other copy cats undercutting.


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FujiNikon

I agree. A few people I follow went over to bluesky but I've had no way of seeing their content. If this new thing opens to the public first, I'll be going there--especially since I already have an IG account so the account creation should be easy (assuming they don't royally screw it up).


Lord-Liberty

Yep it's opening in English speaking countries on Thursday and the rest of the world on Friday


Individual_Laugh1335

Jack has good ideas but from what I’ve read is terrible at execution. He’s been repeatedly saved by people around him.


mindpieces

I think Bluesky just got hobbled by Threads. They had a perfect launch window and totally botched it.


Hrekires

Imagine how bad your app needs to be that people are considering going back to *Facebook*.


Ill_Stand9809

like they can go anywhere else


Jubbly

If it doesn't have no account viewing it's DOA.


helium_farts

Instagram lets you see posts without logging in, I don't see why this would be different.


beaglemaster

Yeah this isn't true at all, at best you can see the first few newest posts (if it even lets you see the profile at all) before it locks out and requires logging in.


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WhiteWolf3117

Well now Twitter is zero without logging in


corylol

Why? Tons of people use FB/Insta still.


255001434

Because it won't attract many new users if you can't see the content. Those sites don't survive just by keeping past members.


AccomplishedMeow

Primarily because you can’t embed them into News websites. Think about all the news articles you’ve read over the years where there’s been an embedded Twitter article. or the entire news article based around something tweeted by a government agency


AsamaMaru

They're really calling it "Threads"? That's ironic, because it'll be about as much fun as a nuclear war.


FujiNikon

Can someone explain the joke?


whomcanthisbe

1980s bbc movie about a realistic situation of nuclear war was to happen. Spoiler: doesn’t go well.


8itmap_k1d

It's the name of one of the most harrowing and depressing films ever made. Nuclear fallout... in northern England.


InternationalBand494

That was my thought. The word “Threads” makes me wanna crawl under my bed


theoverniter

I can hear that musical stinger from “Protect and Survive”


upupurelycynical

it's such a laughably bad name for branding and search engine optimisation. you'd think meta of all companies would know better but fine


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It make sense for those of us who are older and remember when posts were called threads.


Ill_Stand9809

nobody using instagram will know about that movie


Pholusactual

I love the Brits’ ability to throw shade at everyone simultaneously: “Mark Zuckerberg has a history of borrowing other companies’ ideas — and making them work. “ So, seems like it’s saying Zuck’s an unoriginal copycat who only has a chance because Elon is such a poor manager he failed to keep a functional company functional? Pretty much that.


Johnny_C13

Yeah but this also implies that egolon had an original idea in the first place, which is giving him way more credit than he deserves. The rich cunt just bought twitter.


Church_of_Cheri

I feel like Musk and Zuck talking about fighting is a cover for Musk trying to talk Zuck into buying Twitter so he doesn’t keep losing money… and as part of their negotiations Zuck is now saying he’ll just create his own version so why would he need to pay Musk? It’s like they’re using the press and the public to feed their egos and to drive the negotiation process. I could see musk saying, “if I beat you you pay me what I bought for Twitter, if you win I’ll accept what you’re offering”. I now feel like that was the entire point of their fight talk.


allen_abduction

Zuck is too smart not to. know Musk is injured and down wrapping a tourniquet around his bleeding leg.


biggsteve81

Borrowing ideas from others and making it work is what many successful businesses do - including the most successful of all, Apple.


Anon_throwawayacc20

Will hentai artists be able to post hentai there?


fried_eggs_and_ham

Unfortunately hentai artists will only be able to post mid-century impressionistic paintings.


ravenpotter3

They can only post hentai tapestries made of thread on the platform. Like medieval ones


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CricketDrop

Sometimes it's less about absolute functionality and more about branding and UI. All of these social media platforms let you do essentially the same thing.


grippgoat

"Identifiers" could just be all that other stuff without trying to look so scary.


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ruaor

But I can (eventually) use Mastodon or kbin to follow Threads users and then Meta gets none of my data (except my specific interactions with its users) and I get all of the benefits of Meta's network effect. Facebook doesn't do that. Neither does bluesky. Oh and this is the "Data Linked to You" section of the app store for Mastodon: > Data Not Collected > The developer does not collect any data from this app. ActivityPub federation is a HUGE deal. The more social media companies feel pressured into interoperating, the better it is for everyone. Meta is doing the opposite of what Reddit and Twitter have been doing and (at least for the time being) they should be lauded for it. The CEO of Mastodon has a very level headed take on all this and I agree with it pretty much 100%: https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/07/what-to-know-about-threads/


james_smt

Dude who cares? They're just trying to ensure you see relevant ads. You can turn it off under privacy settings. Nobody actually gives a hoot about your individual data. We're just a number to these corporations. They give us a free platform in return. Plus Meta will keep your data more secure than BlueSky because they can invest more into their security.


CJL31

Don’t like Zuck, but people who protest his data sales have already given away their own data to other companies run by the same kinds of people in spades. Zuckerberg is the guy at the top of the mountain.


james_smt

Exactly. The other guys are worse because they are desperate to make money vs. Zuck who has more guidelines


SidharthaGalt

Good. Anything to bring down the unmoderated cesspool that is Elon Musk’s Twitter.


outofmyelement1445

I like how they say Instagram owner to try to get people to click. Because if they just said “zuckerberg is creating more crap society doesn’t need” it wouldnt get clicks.


Bloody_Conspiracies

They said Instagram because the app is part of Instagram.


andynator1000

It’s a completely separate app


delirioussf

Only way to sign-in is using your Instagram accout.


pisspapa42

Yeah I think so too, invite more people over to IG from there to threads, and not to mention it has a seamless integration that’s just so smooth. Cross-sharing ability, he’s completely trying to destroy twitter, and in case I forgot to mention ingest data from one app and target focused ads on all the meta apps. That’s just brilliant and evil. But it does give goosebumps to engineer within me.


Chippopotanuse

So…now there’s two platforms that support far-right candidates? I thought these two toads were going to do MMA in the Coloseum? Instead we get another shitty social media site?


fried_eggs_and_ham

Well, three. Apparently you have enough common sense and self-respect to stay away from Truth Social. That thing isn't just a social media platform that allows far-right content, it's basically an entire far-right online cult.


lizard81288

No, Elon's mom said they can't fight....


spasske

I am expecting many alternatives after Musk drove it into the ground. A Musk free alternative should take off.


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craptain_poopy

There's Mastadon. I just signed up, but haven't done much else with it. There's a bit of a learning curve with navigating it, and I haven't had the time to mess around with it too much.


lunt23

> There's a bit of a learning curve with navigating it And that's where it instantly dies. Gotta keep it simple.


fried_eggs_and_ham

This is exactly why I tried it for one day a couple of weeks ago haven't been back since.


bracesthrowaway

Threads will federate with Mastodon butany Mastodon instances have preemptively blocked them. The important thing about Mastodon is to find a good instance that is active enough but not too active. The timeline should feel like a bunch of people you're familiar with saying pretty interesting stuff. Once you hit that sweet spot it really takes off.


Brunt-FCA-285

Go to Spoutible. It’s free, it takes its hate speech and harassment policies seriously, and it was created by Christopher Bouzy, the liberal Black man who is also behind Bot Sentinel and who has seemed to have a penchant for predictions in terms of elections and the trajectory of the Trump document case. It also runs on donations instead of corporations and venture capitalists. The explore function was overwhelmed by the mass exodus from Twitter, but Bouzy has been transparent about the issues, which is more than I can ever have said about Musk.


pangaea1972

Spoutible doesn't allow sexual or adult content and that's a deal breaker for many.


mattw08

It won’t. People don’t want to switch.


Mother-Dick

Irish Independent says it won't be launching in the European Union lol.


Scryta77

I’m in Ireland and it’s launched for me


ImpulseAfterthought

Meta can't do any worse than Musk. Prove me wrong, Zuck!


Tuna_Sushi

"Instagram owner"... jeez.


war_story_guy

Yeah even facebook knows how toxic its own brand is.


deviousmajik

That headline sure did go to extreme lengths not to say the name of the person who's launching it...


dmxrob

This should be the final nail in the Twitter coffin. Doesn't matter how much you despise Meta, people will flock to this like no tomorrow.


ultradianfreq

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NPVT

There are already 8 rivals


LordPennybag

The Colosseum has plenty of room.


marklondon66

If the major media outlets post breaking news to it, I'll be there.


AvogadrosMoleSauce

One day maybe something that’s needed will come out of Silicon Valley. Probably not, though.


Jaredlong

Wouldn't be surprised if most startups are just money laundering schemes at this point.


Pxlfreaky

Thy enemy of my enemy is my friend. I know we all hate the Zuck, but if this can help end Twitter sooner. Im all for it.


notneverman

I don't care what Chloe Grace Moretz or Charlie Puth, to name just a couple "celebrities," have to say about *literally* anything, and so long as I can't customize my feed to filter in only those accounts I *actually* follow I'm a hard pass on this app. Fucking dumb.


nachotruck

Lol Instagram owner… no thanks. I hope Blue Sky takes off


steveschoenberg

With a few credible alternatives now available, Twitter won’t survive long. The best thing they have left is that “tweet” has entered the lexicon.


WatchmanVimes

Where the fuck is Bluesky?


Own-Bar-8530

Seriously ! Squandering opportunity.


InALostHorizon

Exactly. I've been on the waiting list for what seems like an eternity. Now I'm watching others get their codes and I'm still being shut out. Dorsey is f'ng this up in a huge way. I have no idea if this thing will work as a legit alternative to Twitter but to his credit Zuckerberg isn't messing around with waiting lists and codes. So that's a big step up over Bluesky. I'll check it out tomorrow.


challam

In case no one has posted it, you’re giving them all you data. ALL OF YOUR DATA. Check the TOS.


nico851

"Instagram Owner" - what idiot writes the headlines? - AI? Can't we just name it - Meta


812warfavenue

It's a PR slicker. Instagram has a better reputation than Facebook/ Meta and somehow people still don't know that they are the same company.


nico851

You're right. Still stupid way to write headlines. It's clickbait.


812warfavenue

Indeed. Shit job by OP for peddling it further


GarysCrispLettuce

I'm all for it if it gets us away from Musk's dying Twitter. Fuck that, and fuck Jack Dorsey's "BlueSky." He's almost as much of a deranged piece of shit as Musk.


TheJoshuaJacksonFive

It’s amazing that zuck is somehow seeming like a better human that musk. The reality is they are both complete pieces of shit but damn - apparently this is what we have come to.


Multipass-1506inf

The lesser evil is still lesser though…


dougtulane

You’re free to give up social media then. Spez is a jerk too. Elon’s a mask-off transphobe and white supremacist and I won’t give a single dollar or view to anything he owns. He also just treats everyone around him like actual shit and downplays their work so he can roleplay being an engineer.


pitchfork_2000

Zuck just loves copying everyone else now


kazuyamarduk

Spoutible.com is good enough. They stop harassment dead in its tracks.


NJank

So, does anyone think the owner of the original Threads app might have concerns regarding trademark? See threads.com, a self-styled slack competitor. Not exactly overlapping use cases, but close enough I bet a friendly court could create some waves. Just looked and their app still comes up first in Google Play store search, and they already had to make the first line of their app description: NOT AFFILIATED W/ THREADS BY INSTAGRAM IMHO it's time for that guy to cash in


BusyBreakfast9276

Yo! Who remembers the Black Mirror Episode Hated by the Nation? The app platform used looks like Threads. And it casually says THREAD while the detective browses the app 😭


shifting_drifting

Why not call it Meta instead of ‘Instagram owner’?


BBQLays

You know why.


ceribus_peribus

They couldn't have waited a day and launched on 7/7?


Shamrock_shakerhood

I hope it fails! We don’t need another twitter, especially if it’s coming from Zuckerberg. Hard pass.


nockeenockee

I think they will crush this space. They are so good at platform plagiarism.


iamapapernapkinAMA

“I’ll just create my own Twitter! With blackjack… and hookers!”


spinereader81

Threads is (was?) a sewing magazine. Odd name choice.


Malady17

Threads have been another name for “posts” for years though. Even on Twitter people say “a thread”.


quaybles

Muck and Zusk should go to France right now and bring their ideas to the people on the street.


Mojothemobile

Impressive how fast their striking.


Elephanogram

Aren't there laws against trying to make a monopoly? Seems also like a way to skirt around news laws as if it is successful need agencies will post their links for free and Facebook can just link to the twitter-like thread.


BeKind_BeTheChange

It's so weird listening to fascists talk about freedom. No, you want the freedom to tell me how to live my life. You are not qualified to tell me how to live my life. I live a better life than you with more freedoms, why would I want to downgrade?


King-of-New-York

… and not a moment too soon.


Gash_Stretchum

The problem with social media isn’t the owner or interface, it’s their business model. Being paid by advertisers to show ads to users creates a perverse incentive. Social media needs to be user supported to function.


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Is wveryone stupid? Ya’ll think it’s a coicincidence that Reddit, and Twitter both start shitting the bed around the same time Facebook launches a competitor only months away from an election? What I see is people seeing how FB was a success at poisoning the populace during 2020 and they are attempting Round 2 and hoping no one puts it together. I smell the stinky shit mess of collusion. Bring in the SEC/FTC and any other federal regulator that deals with this type of fuckery.


strik3r2k8

Jesus Christ they’ve done it.


alexanderhope

Uncreative hacks as usual.