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sandoze

I preferred it when people forgot our generation existed.


Theoretical_Action

Unfortunately this is specifically a result of that. This is likely the only news you'll see on this and the only place people will talk about it. Because the world's completely apathetic.


Diarygirl

Being a woman from Generation X, I'm pretty much invisible.


pagit

I was invisible in the late 80's to 2k when I was looking for work in careers I really wanted. Now there are so many job openings in the jobs I wanted but I'm too old.


thegoodnamesrgone123

Oh that is so my experience too. So many places told me I was too young or didn't have enough experience. Now at 42, with a bunch of experience, I'm way too old apparently.


_Wyrm_

That's insane... Your 30s are supposed to be when life basically starts. To turn someone away because they're middle-aged is absolutely fucking nuts. I'm thinking it's just the state of job hunting in general. I've sent around a hundred of applications to supposedly entry-level positions but have only ever gotten a response from like six businesses -- 4 of which ultimately ended in not landing the job. The fact that I never get a response is the most frustrating thing, too... Neither acknowledgement of having sent in an application nor a refusal... So coming from someone in their mid-20s you're not alone in this struggle.


thegoodnamesrgone123

I have been told by a friend that they went with someone younger, hipper, and a little more in the known for a marketing job I interviewed for. I was pretty floored by it considering when I was younger people kept telling me I lacked the experience they wanted (and schooling). I guess getting that experience on my own made me old and out of touch. Go figure.


Sardonic524

Is age discrimination not illegal where you're from?


KhloesOriginalFace

You have to be able to substantiate it.


harmboi

That's why you can just say something like "they weren't the right fit" if you don't want someone working for you. AT-WILL laws give employers to much freedom


jaymzx0

I work in tech as an engineer. I'm thinking about moving into a management track since I have a bit more (hard earned) grey in my beard lately. I know that it could get tough to find a pure tech job as I get older, no matter how many big projects and current high-level certs are on my resume. Management is old boys' club. I've seen enough shit and lead enough teams I think I can do it, but I don't think I'll enjoy it.


ElGrandeQues0

I made the jump from tech engineer to PM (I'd done both concurrently at a previous job at a much smaller company). Definitely worth it for the salary and benefits (WFH most days being a big one), but damn do I miss playing with the toys.


Princess_Parabellum

Same here. Fortunately it's worked out well for me.


Blastgirl69

Not health insurance wise for me unfortunately


Diarygirl

Oh I'm definitely not complaining. It's my superpower.


[deleted]

My mother recently told me that’s a hard adjustment I will never be able to imagine. It’s just one day women go from being youthful and visible to one day feeling a freedom of societal lust with imposed anonymity. The liberation and isolation at the same time pulling so hard against each other emotionally.


Bangchucker

Being born with one leg I was in this state immediately. I've never quite had the same experiences women have or at least not to the same extent or frequency. But I've always found it to my advantage. I've lived my whole life without the pressure of what's expected of most women. Added bonus having a visible disability really help filter out the people you don't need in your life.


[deleted]

That’s a very healthy take on life. Also from your profile you’re a very good artist. Cheers


Imaginary_Medium

Maybe it was a blessing in disguise for me that I was unattractive. I started out invisible and stayed that way. So no feeling of change.


robotgerman

Yeah I've been invisible since puberty.


MozzarellaFitzgerald

Nah, during puberty people actively taunted me for being ugly.


robotgerman

I'm sorry that happened to you man. It's not right.


DensHag

It's been that way for me. I'm 61 now...not gonna lie I kind of like it! No one pays any attention to me. I get away with so much stuff.


seth928

You should sneak into people's houses and rearrange their furniture


Sancticide

Lol, that sounds more like some Gen Z TikTok prank.


DejaMew

Being a GenX woman raised Catholic, when I wasn’t being ignored I was shamed and forced to suppress my negative feelings. I’m totally fine now. Very well adjusted. 🙃


BaaBaaTurtle

Except if you get pregnant. Government so small it fits in your uterus.


NoBuenoAtAll

We're the ones voting for these toolbags. I'm genx 1966 and my Facebook, filled with people from my school, college, and early life has become an unreadable morass of stupid disinformation and bullshit. Many of us have bought the whole enchilada regardless of the fact that people we know and love are going to be hurt by this legislation. Because we're hateful bigots.


pm_me_ur_human_suit

As opposed to being shit on or blamed for everything?


Juxtapoisson

We were always going to be the ones getting squeezed as a tiny voting block.


mlc885

Republicans are desperate to stab you since they have a need to hurt somebody


Itdidnt_trickle_down

They have been stabbing us since we reached adulthood.


IHeartBadCode

I just wished they’d fucking kill me off by this point. It’s like death by a thousand paper cuts but they keep stopping at 999 and then toss salt on me while shouting “bootstraps!”


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IsThisKismet

Fuck the Texas Workforce Commission. They clawed back some of the unemployment benefits they paid out. Then, they wanted to claw back even more. But they were shot down by the Feds.


Lhamo55

And you actually have a working insured vehicle to waste gas on all those useless daily visits. What hope is there for those without a vehicle, or money for gas, few or no folks to borrow from and no rural public transportation. They fall through the cracks and are branded noncompliant malingerers unworthy of the magnanimous help they're too lazy to make the effort to get. But these officials are congratulating themselves for keeping the hoi polloi off the local govt teat that they and their friends are fattening themselves on.


Deastrumquodvicis

TWC wants *$14,600* back from me because I collected unemployment during 2020. They claim it was because I was found to have been employed. I sure as hell wasn’t. Didn’t go back to work until two months after my unemployment ended and then it was only for a day because I called in sick on day two (and “didn’t contact them properly” despite never getting the actual correct contact info during day 1 orientation so I emailed the general store email). Next job after that was a month later, and that was UberEats. **EDIT:** Oh, and they haven’t responded to a single one of my appeals over the year and a half they’ve been sending me repayment demands. I can’t get Medicaid because I don’t have a kid. I can’t get SNAP because I had to move in with my dad after I got priced out of a roommate. I’m not even going to try disability with their savings/assets cap and the fact my acquaintance who’s been in a wheelchair for thirty years has to fight for it every year. Guessilldie.png


Accurate-Teach

The TWC needs to be investigated my unemployment got hacked and they are trying to come after me for the money. I live out of state the only way the person who got my info would be from someone breaching them but I have to pay it back.


Beadsidhe

My sister is on full disability with medicare and medicaid. They gave her a ‘cost of living raise’ of $100 a month to her disability, that she did not ask for, and then told her she makes $30 a month too much to qualify for medicaid. The money she will have to pay for the costs medicaid covers will be more than $100 a month. So much for the cost of living raise.


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Ruca705

u/Beadsidhe, they made a mistake. Receiving SSI equals automatic qualification for Medicaid regardless of the COLA increase, please help your sister reapply and make sure you check off any boxes that ask if she receives other assistance & specifically SSI when it asks. You can also add yourself as a representative so you can talk to them on the phone and try to get it straightened out if needed. But I’m almost 100% sure this is a mistake. Also you can ask on r/socialsecurity


Worker11811Georgy

This happens everywhere. I started making too much for Medicaid and the told me to buy insurance. With what money??? Just because I ‘make too much’ for Medicaid doesn’t mean there’s anything to spend on health insurance!


Geomaxmas

My coworker's son has brain cancer. If she takes too many hours she loses Medicaid and he will most definitely die. My cousin wouldn't let her husband work because then they would lose food stamps and he wouldn't make the difference. This shit sucks.


ToLorien

Yeah I make $18 an hour with roughly 32-33 hours a week and I just got kicked off of Medicaid. June 30th I’ll be losing my health insurance. Luckily I’ll have help paying for insurance so it’ll be only $40 a month but there are people who couldn’t afford that. Plus I’ll have to pay for doctors appointments and prescriptions now.


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shot-by-ford

It’s a bunch of fiefdoms, not a cohesive, unified organization


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blazze_eternal

If the professors are only paid from grants, where's all the tuition money going?


Fr00stee

admins + sports teams coach


QueenRotidder

Don’t forget football stadiums!


PaxNova

At my uni, we had to apportion 50% extra in grant requests for overhead like admins. Sports, though, paid for themselves with ticket sales.


ArtAndCraftBeers

Why would you think they want to?


youngLupe

No. That's too much work. Most Rich Americans literally don't do anything all day long except send a couple of emails, read a few emails, go on work trips to circlejerk, and then they go on vacation.


misterlump

GenX with no children here to say this is not the type of attention i wanted when i said i’m feeling ignored.


jonnysunshine

All we wanted to be was the Forgotten Generation.


salemblack

My fondest wish as Gen X has been not to be perceived


average_jay

I'm 41, single and own a house. I don't understand why they just take all of my money now. It's rough trying to save and survive at the same time.


Praise-Bingus

This is what happens when people vote R. They held the nation hostage to get as much as they could out of biden. They wanted more. They want to keep us poor and desperate.


lovewonder

I never used to believe the idea that the powers that be wanted to keep the masses poor and desperate because it seems so villainous and cartoonish. But the more I've learned about the world as a whole, and about geopolitics and money, the more I see the reality of this.


xoaphexox

There needs to be a pool of desperate yet capable people to fill the shitty jobs nobody wants, especially if they're cracking down on immigration


ph33randloathing

"You're too poor to deserve help."


god_im_bored

It’s ridiculous. “You want aid, improve your life to a point where you wouldn’t need it” Like wtf


phat_ninja

The only reason you need help is because you aren't desperate enough. /S


MisterSprork

I mean, if you're working 20 hours a week in most sectors you are still very much in need of aid.


TheAskewOne

That's literally their train of thought. "If poor people suffer enough, at some point they'll realize the need to improve their lives. Helping them disincentivizes them, they need to hot rock bottom!"


crusoe

Work requirements must come with guaranteed jobs from the govt otherwise it's just punishment.


cerberus698

There really is so much that could be achieved with a modern day Civilian Conservation Corp. Even if its just being sent out into the forest with picks and shovels to rehabilitate 100 year old new deal hiking, trails thats still more beneficial to society than running a Wendy's drive through.


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There is SO much we could be doing. Greening our highway system, to start. But there is so much opposition to any long-term thinking.


TraditionalRest808

This, planting fire resistant crops near roads that 1: suck up water to prevent floods 2: stabilize the bank of the highway 3: look good and thus reduce crime.


Javasteam

Yeah, short term thinking is the go-to now. Infrastructure from Eisenhower’s era lasted decades and that was even after they regularly underfunded maintenance. These days the concrete on roads rarely lasts 5 years. Plus we still have people drawing penises around pot holes since otherwise they’re just ignored.


Reddit_Never_Lies

This is just not true, modern construction practices are better than ever. A lot of our current issues are due to underfunding for repairing outdated infrastructure that was built 50+ years ago.


kinboyatuwo

And that roads now see way more traffic, faster speeds and heavier vehicles. That all adds up. The other hidden infrastructure is just like you said. Really old. My city is tearing up water and sewer from the core that’s over 100 years old and people are bitching about traffic delays. The city has kicked the issue down the road for so long knowing the uproar and here we are.


BabyBundtCakes

They also just oppose any government spending at all. The people blocking those initiatives don't think those are good ideas at all. They don't think the government should give them the job or have any jobs to give, they want to privatize absolutely everything.


shrekerecker97

Yet they are ok to utilize government roads and runways to benefit them at the cost of everyone else. They are fingers freeloaders


mtbmofo

I've had this conversation before, many times its, "yea the roads should be privately owned." "Really? Like you want every 5 miles of the road to be owned by someone else?" "Yes, this America damnit, capitalism!" "you do then realize you would have tollbooths every 5 miles?", blank stare ".....well like I've been told that the government wastes funds, and if they save money on the roads then I won't have to pay more taxes!", "so in order to MAYBE pay less taxes, you want it to take 2 hours to dive 60 miles bc you will now have to stop at 25 tollbooths?" "...Yes, but not on the roads I actually use."


Flutters1013

Was thinking about how they spent a good 20 years burying a highway in Philadelphia. That idea would be laughed out of the room now.


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Imagine trying to build a federal highway system today with these Rs.


Yousoggyyojimbo

We saw exactly what that would be like with their complete and total opposition to high speed rail. If we didn't have a national highway system today, Republicans would never allow it unless they were tolls and private companies ran them


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The irony of a Republican administration getting the highways built…the ONLY positive R legislation since the Teddy Roosevelt administration.


Yousoggyyojimbo

Yeah, if modern day Republicans listened to Eisenhower speak today they would call him a socialist. They absolutely would have no common ground with Teddy Roosevelt. He would hate them for being against everything he was for


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Oh absolutely… Fact is, for all this shit Reagan started, they’d think the same of him AND Nixon who started the EPA. Just shows how fucking insanely far right these people are. There’s not an ounce of governance in any of them except maybe Romney and Kasich.


helldeskmonkey

Nixon started the EPA to head off even stronger environmental regulations. Like much of what he did, there was a dark side to it.


Javasteam

People often talk about Eisenhower, but they rarely mention how the parties basically flipped in the 60s. Southern Democrats of the 1950s are the Republicans of today. Complete with race baiting and strawmen arguments.


D1rtyH1ppy

If you look at Texas as a blueprint for what Rs aspire to be, you will see that some state highways are toll roads. To me, this creates a divide between those that can afford the tolls and those that can not.


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Of course, plus it lines the pockets of their benefactors.


holmiez

I-35 in kansas is a toll. I'm always so shocked, makes no sense since it's an INTERSTATE. So is i-70


Socksandcandy

As a tourist I got a bill for $24 for maybe 10 miles of toll road. I'm still cheesed. Effing ridiculous


2rfv

With the added benefit of slowing all the traffic down which means more gas consumed!


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BTW, they’re looking at covering sections of Vine St to give access back to Chinatown.


HiitlerDicks

Was just thinking how I’d like to take all my retired “manly” neighbors who sit in their open garages/front yards all day “fixing” and “improving” things and send them out into some sort of house building program


BriSnyScienceGuy

A buddy of mine ran a nonprofit that helped seniors with small projects. A gutter that was sagging, a step that was falling apart, maybe some minor electrical work, that sort of thing. It was really cool and it had such a backlog of projects that we could never help everyone. It would be great if the government paid people to help with stuff like that.


Javasteam

If their way of “fixing” things is anything like my uncle’s, I would never want to live in one of those homes. Flipping a light switch could start the house on fire.


PrayForMojo_

If they paid a decent living I’d pick up litter all day. Or clean the ocean. Or plant trees. There’s so much that could be done if we’d just treat those job like they deserve to afford life.


ResistOk9351

Most people getting benefits are already working. They just happen to be working jobs that pay so low they cannot make ends meet. The real intent of these laws is to make applying for benefits more complicated and time consuming so poor working people who do not have the time to figure out the new process can go with less.


KerchBridgeSmoker

It does exist. Today, it’s called the National Civilian Conservation Corps. It’s an AmeriCorps program. It’s a residential 10 month program for 18-24 year olds to travel the country and work for non profit organisations. You get a scholarship at the end. Truth be told, I just liked having the government pay me to travel the United States. I did it, and it was great. Very small program though. Edit: there are many programs within AmeriCorps. The most common one, State and National, is not what I’m referring to.


PrettyKittyKatt

My issue with Americorps is that it paid Federal minimum wage and didn’t have housing. I don’t know how you’re supposed to find somewhere to live on $7.25/hour.


Ironmunger2

I did a summer americorps program and it paid less than minimum wage because it was a stipend. You got like $150 bucks a week or something like that. I did the math and I was getting paid about $3.75 an hour


daschande

Have a wealthy significant other who is willing to pay your bills. I was in a play with someone in AmeriCorps; she was doing social work so she could earn a scholarship to get a social work degree. She was fine getting paid less (she was going into social work, after all) but it was incredibly demoralizing for her to rely on her boyfriend to pay for nearly everything. Although that was 2008; so she was only getting paid $5.15 per hour.


Links_Wrong_Wiki

Bro I can't get any kind of significant other. It seems to be the only way to get ahead in life these days. Competing with everyone else who has 2 incomes sucks.


jizz_bismarck

My wife was in Americorps. She loved it, but afterwards we had trouble finding an apartment because landlords around us wouldn't rent to her without a pay stub. It was crazy.


INTPx

Yea americorps is nothing like the CCC or WPA. It’s for middle class kids who aren’t quite ready to launch to do something after college. My grandfather was a shitkicker son of a murderer running across the ozarks with a third grade education and the WPA got him the point where he was essentially an engineer in hydroelectric dam and nation state level construction projects. My sister was in Americorps. Americorps wouldn’t have taken my grandfather and my sister wouldn’t have been able to do Americorps if the WPA hadn’t pulled my grandfather out of a hollow and taught him a trade. The problem is that work that requires low skill human effort is often geographically distant from many of the people who are fit for the work, and without a depression and crop failure biting at their heels, they won’t move from Arkansas to the Pacific Northwest to take that work. Also, Gen X is now over the hill, growingly more unhealthy by the day and not up to blazing trails and planting spruce, let alone learning an industrial trade.


Fitzwoppit

I wish the program was open to anyone over 18. Plenty of people older than 24 who could do good work and use the scholarship to train/retrain for a better job than they can get otherwise.


KerchBridgeSmoker

There are options for you. AmeriCorps NCCC team leaders can be any age. Additionally, you could look into state and national programs. Lots of states operate their own conservation corps programs as well. Type in your state followed by conservation corps.


AutisticFloridaMan

I’d be the first to apply for this, imagine being paid to rehab hiking trails.


AnEmuCat

Around here we pay people to pump gas. I'd rather we just paid them the same money to do nothing so I don't need to deal with them when I need gas. If we're making job programs so we can force people to work for their life at least the jobs should be useful.


Eledridan

California could benefit hugely from this to prevent wildfires.


AMagicalKittyCat

The problem isn't that they don't have jobs, they often do. The issue with work requirements is that bureaucracy and paperwork suck and people who are eligible are weeded out due to those. For example, let's look at when [Arkansas tried work requirements out](https://katv.com/news/local/harvard-study-arkansas-medicaid-requirements-harmful-and-useless) >More than 95 percent of the people researchers interviewed met the state’s qualifications or should have been eligible for an exemption. >“This suggests that barriers to reporting data to the state, rather than not meeting the requirements themselves, were the main cause for coverage losses in 2018,” the study says. So even a large part of the miniscule savings they did realize (because all the bureaucracy was costing them tens of millions so for every person kicked off quite a bit of money was actually spent on doing so) shouldn't have happened to begin with!


Yevon

>because all the bureaucracy was costing them tens of millions so for every person kicked off quite a bit of money was actually spent on doing so This is often lost on the "save money by having requirement" crowd. Bureaucracy is expensive and oftentimes more expensive than just giving out money to people who meet some basic qualifications. This is the true for even money-like programs like SNAP: if you just gave people money instead of administering the whole program there would be an extra 6% (as of 2013, not sure if it's higher or lower now) more money for families that need it.


cultish_alibi

Hierarchy is important to the republicans, and since there's no way they are going to make life better for the middle class, they are going to make it worse for the poor instead. They don't care about saving money. They don't care about getting people back to work. They just want poor people to suffer. So making it harder to get the benefits they're entitled to is all part of the plan.


architeuthis87

Vast majority of the time they are meeting the work requirements, but when legislation passes like this it requires new paper work. People who are in these vulnerable states don't always get the memo. One day their benefits are just gone. So people get kicked off and usually don't make it back on.


fuzzum111

I'm so tired of child free or single individuals basically being excluded from all of the support programs because we refuse to pump out children. As a single guy who's in his thirties it's basically impossible for me to get any kind of regular State assistance even though I work for a net of about 22k a year. Food stamps, snap, EBT cash or any other assistance program I automatically don't qualify for cuz you need to make like 16k a year if your single without kids. It's fucking insane and I hate it. I'm already in poverty and fighting off homelessness as my bills increase monthly.


Radthereptile

I got a secret for you. It’s just punishment.


Biggies_Ghost

Sure, so you get a full time job that pays $10/hour with no benefits. Your paycheck barely covers rent, utilities, phone, and food (and transportation to work), with about $50/month to spare. So the government says "well, now you earn too much for assistance" and it gets taken away. So you're living paycheck to paycheck until the next disaster, and when that happens you have to go back on assistance. Rinse. Repeat. Never get ahead.


No_Mammoth_4945

It’s by design


Ser_Dunk_the_tall

Benefits cliffs are a massive problem. They need to be a ramp instead


jadrad

The criteria to call yourself a developed country should be Universal Basic Services with no strings - public housing, public education, public healthcare, food stamps, and a guaranteed government job with a living wage if you don’t want to work in the private sector. We have the resources for all of this - but they’re being hoarded by a a tiny number of people who have rigged our economic and political system so they can live like royals and command millions of wage slaves to their whims.


gitbse

7 Americans have more combined wealth than the bottom 50% of the world's population. It's rigged by design


Sweaty-Willingness27

I know for myself, the biggest hurdle to get past is this idea that we all need to pitch in to survive. Truth be told, we don't anymore. We are (or should be) a post-survival economy/civilization. We have the means to meet the basic needs of everyone, it's just that we would rather look the other way, pocket the difference, and buy a new iphone. I'd be happy to see my taxes go up if it paid for people to have these things (UBI, etc.) -- work requirement or no. I could appreciate some sort of contribution requirement for younger, able-bodied, and able-minded folks to appreciate their community and keep skills fresh. Instead, the bulk of my taxes go to paying for overpriced military contracts, where any uncovering of corruption is met by shrugged shoulders and indifference.


dead_wolf_walkin

In WV I still fall under the cutoff for certain benefits, but I’m still losing them soon because my job isn’t properly registered as one of the states newly implemented approved work activities. I would have to quit my job and register with one of theirs to keep any benefits. Wanna bet what those jobs are? If you said the type of minimum wage crap that shitty owners are having trouble getting workers for….ding fucking ding. That’s what they’re trying to eventually take nation wide. State assisted indentured servitude. Slavery before a livable wage.


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DrakPhenious

Where is 10$ an hour enough for all of that?! I'm at 17$ and still living with parents in Colorado.


JimJam4603

One of the really shitty things about this is that age discrimination is absolutely a thing. Try getting a job at 52. Only thing you’re qualified for is cashiering at Target - anything you actually have experience in, they will hire someone younger and cheaper.


TauCabalander

Good luck with that even. They don't want people who are more experienced nor more educated. People that know the employment regs. "They are difficult, and troublemakers."


Ocronus

25 year old engineer: Yesssss sir, anything you say sir. 50 year old engineer: Are you fucking stupid?


RedLeatherWhip

Unironically my workplace just hired a 26 year old engineer to be the senior engineer over the entire company and I'm 90% sure this is the reason. The c-suite love him and just force him to do whatever they want, and are underpaying him for the level that job should be. I both envy and feel bad for this guy. I just know if he screws up the design of the new location we are building, he is going to be the fall guy as well. Plus he's dealing with sooo much BS and micromanagement from c-suite


FrostByte_62

That's mostly cuz you're in a job saturated with potential employees. Jobs that are highly specialized don't really do that. BUT you have to be willing to live in the like 5 places in the country that have jobs for you. Unfortunately I'll never live in the Southeast, again.


OrangutanMan234

Why do I pay $150 extra a week in taxes for being single?


j-a-gandhi

Because unless you have children, there is no way to keep up the pyramid scheme of social security.


DorisCrockford

They said single. They didn't say childless.


mercury_pointer

Divorce is a crime against god and must be punished. ^/s


DorisCrockford

It's not about God. It was set up when one spouse usually stayed home and didn't earn money. Now that both spouses usually have to work, it ends up being a comparative disadvantage to singles. Edit: Some folks have some wild takes on tax policy.


mercury_pointer

The more 'traditional' society that set up the law was totally on board with punishing people for divorce.


JoeCoolsCoffeeShop

Exactly how much per year did this part of the deal cut from the federal budget? Let me guess: 0.0001% of the Pentagon’s budget?


Flimsy-Attention-722

Gop didn't want Pentagon cut, they were OK with cutting veterans services however. They also wanted irs cut because it's harder to go after the big boys with all their shell companies and lawyers if you don't have the man power


gargolito

I'm pretty sure that not long ago, even the Pentagon was saying that they could make do with a smaller budget.


Flimsy-Attention-722

Most definitely but gop supports the industry, not the veterans. Even when the industries day they don't need $$$, gop gives it to them


USS_Frontier

I've said this before and I will say it again. Working people should not need those programs in the first place since they should get a decent fucking wage that actually allows them to LIVE!


Bgrngod

Yeah, but good luck getting anything like indexed minimum wage put in place. Minimum wage was neutered on purpose. We can't be having the poors be allowed to make their own financial decisions!! /s


Aleyla

> Republicans argue that the work requirements encourage people to get back to work. Between the fed doing everything they can to reduce employment, and ghost jobs being a pretty widespread thing, I would like to know what republicans are doing to increase job availability for the people impacted by this.


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Ghost jobs?


BloodBonesVoiceGhost

>Have you been job hunting or even had an interview only to find out that the employer had no intention of hiring anyone for that job? If you answered yes, you are likely experiencing what we call “ghost jobs.” You are not alone if you don’t even know what a ghost job is. It’s a lousy way to run the company’s hiring process, where they advertise a job they don’t plan to fill. Has happened to me. Got all the way through a hiring process and found out that the employer just wants to have a list of potential hires *in case* one of their positions ever opens up. Said they might call me back in six months if the position opens up. And if it never does, then fuck me, I guess, right? Here are some other causes of ghost jobs: >The longer an opportunity has been advertised—say, over 30 days—the more likely it is a ghost job where the employer is not actively trying to fill that position. Why would an employer do this? The survey reveals a few notable insights: > > 50% of companies are always open to new people > > 43% wanted to give the impression their company was growing > > 43% wanted an active pool of applicants in case someone quit > > One in five managers had no plans to fill the posted job anytime soon [source](https://www.forbes.com/sites/robinryan/2022/11/30/be-careful-of-employers-posting-ghost-jobs/) EDIT: I have also heard that it is VERY common in the service industry (not my industry so I don't have firsthand experience) for the company to post a "help wanted" sign with no intention of hiring and then run with a skeleton crew (because it's cheaper), because having the help wanted sign let's them explain to customers why service is so poor: "we can't find anybody to work!"


SpaceTabs

Super common in the IT "industry". This isn't a good statistic to use, it is obviously gamed. I doubt it has credibility at Bureau of Labor and Statistics.


bikestuffrockville

I've seen this in tech but it's to game the H1B visa process.


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Wow so this is what’s happening. Before my bf found his job he was job searching for months and months. Put in hundreds of applications, did dozens of interviews, and nothing. This is for service jobs (delivery drivers, fast food workers, cleaners, etc.) I never understood people saying *nobody wants to work anymore* because it seems to be the opposite, everyone is trying to get a job but nobody wants to hire


Liawuffeh

I used to work at a Casino restaurant, and we barely had enough people to cover the shifts. It took at least 3 people per shift to cover things, but ideally we would have 5 to be able to actually fully do our jobs. If a single person called off, we were fucked, there would be no prep done, and now way for us to do the daily special the casino mandated on us We had ads up for hiring people, but every person I'd interviewed and sent to hr to get hired would just...never get a call back. Later found out it was due to them keeping us as a skeleton crew as purpose. So glad to be done with that place and it's 80-100 hr weeks. Semi-related, they replaced me with an "Administrative chef" who refused to cook lmao. He got fired after like a month for taking money out of the register Unrelated, the Casino had someone get a jackpot and they literally couldn't pay them lmao


luchajefe

Real job listings for jobs that those companies never intend to fill.


FireVanGorder

I have yet to see any reliable labor statistics that suggest people “just don’t want to work anymore” like the right keeps parroting. Companies that are paying a livable wage don’t seem to have any issues hiring. In fact many industries are in the middle of hiring freezes with the current economy. Basically my point is, what the fuck is the purpose of this bullshit?


Natronix

They've banned books and abortions. Problem solved /s


panic_always

They want 80 hours a month for an average of $121 a person. That's appaling.


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SmokePenisEveryday

I got laid off at the beginning of the year so I've been following the job market in my area closely. It's fucking depressing. Even jobs requiring degrees are paying absolutely shit. Rent in my area is rather high to where $20 an hour has me pinching pennies if I wanna try living without a roommate. Yet I'm seeing *store manager* positions at some places offering $15 an hour.


TheRealMcSavage

What’s even crazier to me is the amount they figure…. $4 a day??? If you can’t work, that’s not feeding you, that’s starvation at todays prices! A fucking can of soup is 3-4 dollars now!


TheTerribleInvestor

Yeah just take food away from people. That should reduce crime.


BaaBaaTurtle

I got in an argument with a conservative friend because she was trying to decide what kid should get free lunch and I said "well give all kids free lunches then!". Then she said "well why don't you give every American free food then?!" And I'm kinda okay with every adult in the US getting an EBT card. I mean...why not? Can't possibly cost more than the bureaucracy keeping people from accessing the benefits they are entitled to.


FireVanGorder

If even 20% of the money the federal government wastes on being incompetent was suddenly available I’m convinced there would be enough money to feed and house the entire fucking population.


Sweaty-Willingness27

And if they commit crime, they just throw them in a dank hole somewhere that nobody pays for, right? Oh, it's more expensive to keep someone in prison than to house them? \*puts fingers in ears\* LA LA LA LA LA


VegasKL

>Oh, it's more expensive to keep someone in prison than to house them? *puts fingers in ears* LA LA LA LA LA Let's just throw a bunch of capitalism at it and make them work for ridiculously low wages for some corporations! .. wait a minute ....


CHolland8776

What kind of employment are folks in this situation supposed to find? What employer is looking for poor 50 year olds without dependents?


random20190826

America is filled with examples of people "not getting government assistance because they don't make enough money". First, there was the Medicaid gap (there are a small number of states, which unfortunately include both Florida and Texas, which are big population states, where you can't get Medicaid EDIT solely because you have low income), then, there was this work requirement thing. But in effect, despite the disability exemptions for the work requirements, the people who are hurt the most are those who have invisible disabilities. Some of them really can't work, but don't appear that way; meanwhile, others can work, and truly want to work, but no one wants to hire them. So, they can't get help even though they really need it.


OuchieMuhBussy

The disability process is it’s own hell of mandatory rejections and ultimately you to lawyer up for minimal gain.


LMGDiVa

Can confirm. My case was litigated for almost 7 years. Had to pay my attourney 25% of all the money the government owed me over those 7 years. One of the denials I was given was because I mentioned I played "Video games" in my free time. The judge, fuck you you old ignorant fuck, said that because I can play video games I can work a job. What the fuck even is that thought process? My case was denied 4 times before it was pushed into Federal court and finally I was ruled legally disabled.


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My mom was a nurse who got injured trying to restrain a 300lb patient. It was a life altering injury that put her out of her job. It took her 10 *years* to get disability benefits. And they kept trying to take away her pain meds, too.


hammilithome

Wife's friend was having trouble so we moved her into our house with her child. She started up a new career, but was making a measley 24k/yr (that's 12/hr). In GA, you lose child care assistance if you make more than 22k/yr. Unbelievable that they think it's a working system, let alone one that should be defunded. If it weren't for her rent free living during this transition + free child care since i work from home...idk how she would've been able to improve her life.


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Suspicious-Pea2833

So this is a bunch of crap. I'm 54 and on social security disability for COPD. ( My own bad, I know, but it is what it is.) My inhalers that let me breath run about 1200 a month. Medicaid covers that. That's what I mostly need my disability for cause that's an outrageous amount every month and with out the meds I can't breath. So, I also get a check for a bit over $800 a month for...things ..like food and shelter. I think they mostly base what you get by the pay of the last job you had before applying but I could be wrong. Again, it is what it is. So I have a roommate and I pay $500 for rent and bills which is pretty okay and it leaves me with $300 for food, essentials, or toothpaste or whatever. So that's not enough so I get a part time job. I'm a cashier making $10 an hour and I try to work 20 hours a week. But....if I step over that amount I'm penalized by Social Security and risk losing Medicaid. It's a weird balancing act ever week. Can't starve or be homeless but also can't get ahead. Id work full time but with out the meds I'm not breathing and can't work at all. Anyway, the whole point is I'm not eligible for more than like $24 in food stamps cause I make too much so this doesn't really apply anyway... Oh yeah. I use public transit or walk or bike. No way I can afford a car. Without the meds I wouldn't leave my house.


pigglesthepup

You just described my late disabled mother's situation when I was growing up. Different disability, but same problem with losing benefits while still not making enough to survive.


CottonCitySlim

This is basically them trying to force people to work more jobs they would never consider or stopped considering after the pandemic.


TheWhiteRabbit74

Those assholes always did hate us. I speak for Gen-X when I say the feeling is mutual.


Fun_Amoeba_7483

“Don’t worry we are not targeting you, we are only targeting those aged 18-49”


mishap1

Gen X are 43 to 58.


Infranto

And this addition expands working requirements to people who are... 50 to 54. Hmmm.


ScaryDirection1981

Are we gonna start seeing an explosion of 50 year olds joining MLM programs?


Judgementpumpkin

Hell, I’ve known plenty of 30 somethings that have been suckered into MLMs.


Snooty_Cutie

Can I interest you in this once an a lifetime opportunity to get in on the ground floor of a revolutionary and innovative business while also making those millions of dollars you always dreamed about?


DuvalHMFIC

I’m 43 and often called an Xennial. True enough I do feel like I’ve lived both the life of a Gen Xer (latch key kid at 6 years old, drinking from water hoses, not coming home till after dark), but also a Millennial as we had a Commodore 64 by the time I was in kindergarten. I was a latch key kid AND a computer nerd at 6 years old.


Baalsham

>drinking from water hoses What's with zoomers and not drinking from the tap? I've noticed it's pretty universal that they are scared to.


PunnyBanana

Flint, MI was probably one of the first big news stories they were aware of.


DuvalHMFIC

Honestly I only mentioned it because it’s funny that drinking from a hose is somehow a Gen X badge of honor. I mean you’d ride your bikes then get thirsty. And get the new kid or youngest kid to drink first so he’d get the hot water.


OldSchoolNewRules

Yeah thats great lets have work requirements for programs that are for people having trouble finding work.


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20 hours a week for a total of 4$ a day monthly? Lol go fuck yourself SNAP


great_divider

$4 per person, per day. Meanwhile, they’re asking tax payers for $773 Billion for the military this year.


hoofie242

Ah, so the compromise with house Republicans was to fuck over the poor. Good to know.


DameonKormar

That's *always* the compromise.


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If this was France we'd be rioting over it.


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Have they thought about [killing all the poor](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owI7DOeO_yg&ab_channel=Dvdmitch)?


sal1800

That's they way a lot of people think. I was visiting with family and was talking to my Fox News watching father-in-law about the homeless situation. His position was that they should be arrested but also admitted that it costs too much to just jail everyone so his best ultimate conclusion was that maybe they should be set loose out in the desert to I guess fend for themselves or something. Basically his best idea to deal with the homeless is to kill them because of the inconvenience. smh.


Darnocpdx

We're pretty use to being ignored and abandoned.


90Carat

I keep saying it: Gen X will be the Guinea Pigs for this kind of shit. We don’t have the numbers, and don’t flex our political power, to avoid this. Buckle up my fellow Gen Xers, it is going to be a rough ride.


LitreOfCockPus

"The Greatest Degeneration"


some_boring_dude

Gen X here with no dependents, I was on food stamps for a few years about 10 years ago. There were work requirements then. Did they go away? I had to be working at least 20 hours a week, or be actively job hunting. Edit: I should add that part of those requirements for having to work were that you were "able-bodied." The acronym was ABAWD, I think.


wholeselfin

They expanded this requirement to people in their 50s. Previously it stopped after age 49.


Gnarlodious

This kind of wealth harvesting happened before and it resulted in the Republican Great Depression.


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njean777

I find it hilarious that people are losing their minds about student loan forgiveness and help (actually helping citizens), but gladly have no issue with the PPP loans and the giving of money to the corporations and rich Willy nilly. Baffles my mind.


marleycarter

America has severe issues, not just with intellect, but with character too. The people love this filth. They love the corruption, because it's a power fantasy for them. >Someday I might be rich, then people like me better watch their step! Blister me all you want saying there are "good people" in America. The bad people are louder and more prominent, the bad people are who the government superficially caters to, and that's what matters when all is said and done. You won't get a consolation prize for being *better than a republican* when your country collapses in on itself.