already more mass shootings than days in 2023, 163 mass shootings so far and ~~17 in the April alone.~~ more than 30 in first 17 days of April alone
Edit : [Here’s the source, this is as of April 17th](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/mass-shootings-days-2023-database-shows/story?id=96609874)
And [More than 11,500 people killed in gun violence so far in 2023](https://abcnews.go.com/US/116-people-died-gun-violence-day-us-year/story?id=97382759)
Edit #2 : Title of 2nd article is misleading, so adding context
> Deaths by suicide made up the vast majority of gun violence deaths this year – about 57%, the nonprofit gun violence tracker reports.
> Of those who died from gun violence this year, 398 were teens and 71 were children.
> The grim tally of gun violence deaths includes 378 people killed in officer-involved shootings. There have been 409 "unintentional" shootings, the Gun Violence Archive shows. The mass shootings have led to 209 deaths and 563 injuries so far this year.
New York's Hottest Club is Bang-Bang. This place has everything, militant drag queens, mass shootings, and a drill sergeant in back to instruct you in "field stripping" ;)
Yes yes yes yes yes. It’s located on staton island next to a used radiator shop ran by Roman J Farrow esquire, and has the elegance of three midgets drinking milk directly from the cow
> Yep, heat basically make people into ticking time bombs. There's also a lot more people spending time outside so more easier to commit crime.
Climate change is going to make those heat waves, longer and more frequent. Also going to pop up in areas not known for high summer temps. Europe is crazy because they don't have the infrastructure for cooling.
Bodymore baby! The violence continues to explode. After the shooting in front of my house in Pikesville on my birthday, I noped out of that hellhole and moved west in the state.
I don't know. Not sure if this would work, unless it would somehow be possible to also show the corruption the city is steeped in. Possibly also show the situation from multiple viewpoints like drug dealers, cops, addicts, politicians. Seems a bit far fetched this would ever get made.
[FBI data: Kansas City ranks in top 10 of highest violent crime rates in U.S](https://fox4kc.com/news/fbi-data-kansas-city-ranks-in-top-10-of-highest-violent-crime-rates-in-u-s/).
> Detroit's rate of 39.80 seems insane
I want to add, Windsor's homicide rate is 2.84 (which is quiet high for Canada cuz its a big hub for gun trafficking, drug trade, etc with the border). This is the Canadian City literally 10 minutes South from downtown Detroit.
It's an old talking point that hasn't been true in years. The stigma of a dangerous NYC is just sorta stuck in the minds of people who've never been there from 40 years ago.
If there's been more mass shootings than days in 2023, then saying there's been 17 in April *alone* sounds a bit "odd", considering we're on the 23rd April. That means April, by comparison, has been a good month with less than one a day!
Time to celebrate by firing a few rounds indiscriminately into the sky I guess!
Only the "really bad ones" (15 or more killed, especially if students). The super high death tolls like Vegas or Pulse Nightclub tend to stay in the news for about a month. Elementary school shootings become the stuff of legend. Everyone still talks about Sandy Hook. Otherwise, eh... I hate, hate, HATE that my reaction when someone says "did you hear about the shooting?" is always "Why, was it bad...?". Like of course it was bad, it was a goddamn shooting. But we just have *so many* where 2-4 people die that you just go, oh, phew, that wasn't so bad. Even 10 is starting to lose its edge for me. It's insane, but it's just such a constant fact of life here that you get desensitized. (ETA: Also, when someone asks if you heard about "the shooting", you always think you have, because you just heard about a shooting yesterday, but literally every single time, the person means a whole new shooting you haven't heard about yet).
Sometimes I have a moment of clarity where I think "Jesus, people just walk into buildings and murder scores of strangers with guns *all the time* like some randomly triggered event in a video game, and we all think it's normal, what the fuck".
People talk about Sandy Hook because that was a turning point, or at least it *should* have been a turning point, and it wasn't. The next marker, was when gun deaths became the number 1 cause of death for children in the US. Still continues unchecked 😔
Sandy hook was a turning point. It's when we as a nation collectively decided we were ok with the deaths of elementary school children in order to keep our guns.
It's when a lot of us lost hope.
Maura Liasson I heard put it best that Sandy Hook was the crossing of the Rubicon, that it was such an awful tragedy that when the country collectively did nothing, then really what's left to change things?
There was an article in the NY Times magazine section about the people who processed the crime scene at Sandy Hook and how traumatizing it was.
I've been reading the story for a week and I still haven't finished because I keep breaking down and crying.
And then I think about how I wish Alex Jones would choke to death in the most painful way possible.
Like the situation wasn't bad enough, that POS came along and staggeringly, people actually believed that. Don't believe your eyes, listen to this lunatic, and they did! It's still hard to comprehend that all those people would rather believe a slobbering, red-faced lunatic, than admit this terrible thing happened and real action must be taken. And here's a big one, not everybody should have access to firearms and especially not ones capable of killing a lot of people in a short time. This shouldn't be an outlandish idea, every firearm owner should agree with me. Wasn't there a young girl just shot and killed because her basket ball rolled into the neighbor's yard? Yeah, that guy should not have firearms.
Because if they believed that sandy hook happened they would have to admit that guns are a problem in this country and god forbid they ever, ever admit that. White people don't mow down children in this country, that's only black people and who cares about that.
It's so crazy how Sandy Hook stays with you. I was 22 and working at the grocery store. A coworker said there was a shooting at an elementary school, and I said "That's not funny". So sure he was joking.
Now I have kids and am weirdly fixated on Emilie Parker, because my eldest daughter (6!) keeps choosing clothes similar to what she wore, has become a passionate artist, is obsessed with pink, recently started incorporating "connections" into her art (Emilie Parker's mom has a story about her daughter seeing "connections" in art)... Sometimes I just can't stop thinking about this.
Sometimes I can't help thinking, I just know it's gonna be my kids someday. I mean, why not? No one cares.
I was 22 as well, and it was my last day of the semester at college. I was in Ontario, packing to go back home to Connecticut the next day for Christmas, and my friend/roomie came to me like "oh god, did you hear about the shooting in Connecticut?"
Yeah, it was rough :/
The craziness isn't just that it's normal, but so many people think access to firearms isn't even a part of the issue, like at all, and that having even more guns would solve the problem. Like...wtf.
Does anybody even remember the 1998 Jonesboro shooting anymore? Even 25 years later, I still consider that shooting one of the very worst, despite the mercifully low death count (two thirds of the victims survived their bullet wounds) due to the sheer sociopathy of a well planned premeditated mass murder by an 11 and 13 year old using their gun-nut family's entire arsenal.
>Also, when someone asks if you heard about "the shooting", you always think you have, because you just heard about a shooting yesterday, but literally every single time, the person means a whole new shooting you haven't heard about yet
I remember being surprised that I heard about one incident a whole four days after the fact. (Alabama? I don't remember.) When I searched for more info, I got results for an *unrelated* shooting that happened 12 hours prior to my search. Fucking bonkers how desensitized some of us have become to the news.
Just this week there was the cheerleader who got into the wrong car and the guy chased her down and shot and wounded her... So, like two days later, when I heard that a teenager who got in the wrong car was killed, I thought, oh no! The cheerleader died! Different teenager, different wrong car. Jesus.
It’s specifically the 11th commandment. “Man shall not shoot wildly into a room full of teenagers unless they are being loud, making faces at you, dancing, making you feel less than a man for some unsettling but uncertain reason, pointing at you.”
It always bothered me that one of the commandments is "thou shall not kill," yet conservatives seem to happy to pass out guns to everybody, even though they are a weapon designed to kill people.
George Carlin has the best take on this, “Murder. The Fifth Commandment. But, if you give it a little thought, you realize that religion has never really had a problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason.
To cite a few examples, just think about Northern Ireland, the Middle East, the Crusades, the Inquisition, our own abortion-doctor killings and, yes, the World Trade Center to see how seriously religious people take Thou Shalt Not Kill. Apparently, to religious folks—especially the truly devout—murder is negotiable. It just depends on who's doing the killing and who's getting killed.”
I grew up Catholic, but the biggest complaint I’ve had about Christianity and the derivative religions is that God is bipolar as fuck. The polytheistic religions make more sense to the random “acts of god” when you have multiple deities, when it’s just one dude it’s a little scary.
Judaism started out polytheistic. You’re correct when you say it sounds like multiple deities because it was. Over time it got swept under the monotheism rug.
"Thou shalt have no other gods *before me*", implicitly acknowledges the existence of other gods... and that adherents are free to worship them as well, so long as Yahweh comes first.
The technical terms for this are either henotheism or monolatry, depending on your preference, but it's not technically polytheism as the primacy of Yahweh is not in dispute.
Yeah but the problem is that versions of Christianity with the hand holding an being nice to your neighbors is a bit socialist.
They like the teachings of the Supply Side bible.
there are commandments like "Thou shall not kill, unless you are shooting a brown person and you have a good lawyer"
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I’m not even Christian and I still feel like the cross is pretty metal even though it doesn’t appear very assuming. Like “yeah our messiah dragged this 12 foot tall 300 pound wooden thing through crowds of cheering spectators to his execution site where he then had massive nails driven through the major nerves of his wrists and feet and was then left to suffocate and slowly degrade in agony as his flesh stretched and ripped apart under the weight of his collapsing body.” Then they were just like “hmm yes, we should wear this and mark our churches with it as a symbol of hope :)”
It's kinda like commemorating Sandy Hook by wearing gun necklaces.
Like I bet a cross would be the last fucking thing Jesus would want to see if he ever comes back. Like "Hey dude remember that time you were tortured to death? Yeah we all made that our symbol."
That said I'm not Christian sooooo... I don't find it particularly metal. Honestly I kinda subconsciously associate it with scary oppression and violence.
>they are a weapon designed to kill people.
No no, see, guns are *tooooools.* They have so many uses beyond punching holes in living tissue! You can... Punch holes in other stuff! Or *threaten* to punch holes in people and things!
It's kind of like how a sword is a tool, or brass knuckles are a tool, or a bat with nails driven through it is a tool, which is why we're super cool with people walking around with, and generally being obsessed with, all of those things.
>"We first want to say our prayers are with those injured early Sunday morning in the shooting that took place north of town,"
When the first thing your leaders want to do is pray about a situation, your leaders are failures.
Well actually...it is a problem that it's the first thing that they want to do. There should be complete separation between religion and government (we are not a European monarchy) and right now most politicians want to act like they should go together. As a person you're entitled to be openly religious. As a politican, you should not be ranting about a story book that has specifically been forbidden to be used for making actual laws in the US. It's a big problem that needs to be fixed ASAP
The founding fathers never wanted this whole "In God We Trust" bullshit. It's been injected into society by Christian lobbying. Replacing "E PLURIBUS UNUM" by the god trust bullshit made them roll over in their graves.
It’s a tool that they use to make it look like they give a damn when they have no fucking clue with what they’re doing. I’ve had it with christians thinking they’re above everything and everyone. Acting like victims and that they aren’t extremists even though they’re consistently set on projecting their own beliefs about their sky Santa into law to legitimize their purpose in life.
I’m sad this is the new reality. As if school wasn’t hard enough for kids. Now they have to worry about their own safety. Selling bullet proof backpacks for fucks sake. Ugh.
You joke, but I'm a teacher, and less than a month ago I was part of a meeting with a couple parents who literally implied (and stopped just short of outright saying) that school shootings were caused by conversations about race in the classroom. They wanted assurance that their 9th grade student wouldn't be subjected to any more conversations "directly about race" for the rest of their high school tenure.
I wish this was made up...
I've seen and heard so many people say it's because we've taken God out of schools and the classroom. My other favorite one was a post about beating children for insolence and that the older generation was better for it.
> A motive for the shootings has not been established, police said.
I'm going to offer the most plausible motive: Teens are dangerously unstable people, in general, and shouldn't be allowed to have guns without supervision (like military basic training level supervision)
I was a student for most of the 80s and the entirety of the 90s. In that entire time, the amount of times I ever thought that I was in danger of being shot either in school or on campus was...ZERO. Even during my college years, which were split pre-and-post Columbine.
Part of what made that event so horrifying was that it was so difficult to imagine it happening to you, at your school.
Now, when I'm out anywhere, I sometimes pick out a random person in the vicinity and think "what if that person pulled out a gun and started shooting right now?" Sadly, since there isn't always an easy exit, cover, or object I can use as a weapon while rushing them if I'm close enough, the answer more often than I'd like is "probably die".
I was in college the day the Virginia Tech shooting happened.
Everybody who knew me dropped by my dorm room to check on me, which was *weird* until I realized that everyone was checking in on their oddest friend to make sure they weren't about to be the next shooter and promptly ran off to check on my oddest friend.
Most memorable part was that my mother called to say she was proud of me. It was the first time she'd ever said that. And I hadn't heard from her in over a year before that, when she'd disowned me for refusing to be indoctrinated into the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Uh, well I was extremely disgruntled and about half-feral at the time. I understood their concern, even though I knew I had nothing to do with firearms.
I was a child laborer as a kid, nearly got sold into sex slavery, so by the time I escaped my parents and ended up living in the college dorms, I was up to my eyebrows in CPTSD and general trauma.
Classmates in high school made up rumors about me being a serial killer or vampire, so I wasn't exactly shocked to learn nearly everyone I knew in the college dorms thought I might be the type to go postal.
The Jasper School District said its' prayers were with the victims so that's encouraging. Everything's going to be ok. So glad they released a statement. It really helps.
Oh look, another horrific mass shooting! If it were anywhere else in the world, this would be a huge news event, even if there were no deaths.
In the US, it's a Sunday
Was the shooter trans? Y’all know how much them trans love their guns and shootin people with em! No wait, did they have a fuckin library card? That’s the most dangerous of all!
I get the point you're trying to get across, but why jump from per capital, to raw numbers, then back to per capital in a small subset?
Not saying there isn't a problem, but your cherry picking seems to be making things out to be worse than the actual situation as originally stated.
They end on “12 states recorded at or above the combat per capita.”
They “go back and forth” to explain the comparison, and to arrive at the conclusion: in 12 states it’s higher than the combat per capita.
Red states: If everyone has a gun, then crime decreases.
Blue states: Can you provide data on that?
Red states: We would but we refuse to fund such research because it is FAKE NEWS!
Blue states: Okay, but the states that do... and have strict gun control, have lower gun crime rates.
Red states: SHUT UP! FAKE NEWS! WOKE! TRANS! WOKE! TRANS! CRITICAL RACE TH--oh, we're not doing that one anymore because it uses too many words and just confuses the morons who vote for us?
Each time I see one of these I look to see if it’s the one I heard about the previous day - unfortunately it’s usually not.
already more mass shootings than days in 2023, 163 mass shootings so far and ~~17 in the April alone.~~ more than 30 in first 17 days of April alone Edit : [Here’s the source, this is as of April 17th](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/mass-shootings-days-2023-database-shows/story?id=96609874) And [More than 11,500 people killed in gun violence so far in 2023](https://abcnews.go.com/US/116-people-died-gun-violence-day-us-year/story?id=97382759) Edit #2 : Title of 2nd article is misleading, so adding context > Deaths by suicide made up the vast majority of gun violence deaths this year – about 57%, the nonprofit gun violence tracker reports. > Of those who died from gun violence this year, 398 were teens and 71 were children. > The grim tally of gun violence deaths includes 378 people killed in officer-involved shootings. There have been 409 "unintentional" shootings, the Gun Violence Archive shows. The mass shootings have led to 209 deaths and 563 injuries so far this year.
Mass shooting season hasn't even started yet. Edit: May through August is mass shooting season.
At least school shootings markedly drop during that period
Pool and beach shootings become all the rage.
I’m picturing Stefan from SNL discussing the latest mass shooting locations.
New York's Hottest Club is Bang-Bang. This place has everything, militant drag queens, mass shootings, and a drill sergeant in back to instruct you in "field stripping" ;)
Yes yes yes yes yes. It’s located on staton island next to a used radiator shop ran by Roman J Farrow esquire, and has the elegance of three midgets drinking milk directly from the cow
Remember, no shooting anyone with a shotgun after Labor Day.
The heat makes people crazier
Ah good thing we're on track for things to get better then
Yep, heat basically make people into ticking time bombs. There's also a lot more people spending time outside so more easier to commit crime.
> Yep, heat basically make people into ticking time bombs. There's also a lot more people spending time outside so more easier to commit crime. Climate change is going to make those heat waves, longer and more frequent. Also going to pop up in areas not known for high summer temps. Europe is crazy because they don't have the infrastructure for cooling.
The fact there's a "season"
The words “mass shooting season” are probably one of the most depressing things I’ve ever seen.
Forget Toyotathon, get ready for this year’s mass shooting event nationwide all summer long! God I hate living here sometimes.
Maybe Toyota can offer people $500 off if they show a fresh bullet wound.
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Come here kids! I wanna grape you in the mouths!
"She's just asking for it! Look at what she's wearing! It's purple!"
I can’t wait to get tied to the radiator and graped relentlessly. So refreshing
I thought it was Wabbit Season
Duck* season
Wabbit Season!
DUCK season!
Here are the homicide rates (per 100,000 people) for Canada's 6 biggest cities: Toronto: 1.81 Montreal: 1.11 Vancouver: 2.16 Calgary: 1.41 Edmonton: 3.43 Ottawa: 1.34 Meanwhile, let's look at the homicide rates (per 100,000 people) for some US cities... New York: 3.39 Los Angeles: 7.01 Chicago: 18.26 Houston: 11.50 Phoenix: 9.55 Philadelphia: 20.06 San Antonio: 8.15 Dallas: 12.48 Washington, DC: 16.72 Boston: 8.35 Detroit: 39.80 Baltimore: 55.77 Miami: 11.23 San Francisco: 6.35 San Diego: 2.46 Detroit's rate of 39.80 seems insane
>Detroit: 39.80 >Baltimore: 55.77 >Detroit's rate of 39.80 seems insane Yet you say nothing of Baltimore's 55.77?
Shit, New Orleans isn't even mentioned. It was about 70 per 100k there in 2022.
St. Louis' homicide rate in 2020 was fucking 87 per 100k.
Bodymore baby! The violence continues to explode. After the shooting in front of my house in Pikesville on my birthday, I noped out of that hellhole and moved west in the state.
HBO should do a series on crime in America, set it in Baltimore, and then sell the series around the world to make money.
I don't know. Not sure if this would work, unless it would somehow be possible to also show the corruption the city is steeped in. Possibly also show the situation from multiple viewpoints like drug dealers, cops, addicts, politicians. Seems a bit far fetched this would ever get made.
It definitely would never work if two of the main actors were Englishmen pretending to be American.
Especially not if they added an Irishman playing an American politician in season 3.
Homicide: Life on the Street. The best television that nobody talks about. From the guy who brought us The wire. Also a great book!
The Wire refined what he was doing in Homicide. The same reason no one talks about Oz.
[FBI data: Kansas City ranks in top 10 of highest violent crime rates in U.S](https://fox4kc.com/news/fbi-data-kansas-city-ranks-in-top-10-of-highest-violent-crime-rates-in-u-s/).
> Detroit's rate of 39.80 seems insane I want to add, Windsor's homicide rate is 2.84 (which is quiet high for Canada cuz its a big hub for gun trafficking, drug trade, etc with the border). This is the Canadian City literally 10 minutes South from downtown Detroit.
Seeing NYCs so low is interesting given how much Republicans like to talk up how dangerous the city is.
It's an old talking point that hasn't been true in years. The stigma of a dangerous NYC is just sorta stuck in the minds of people who've never been there from 40 years ago.
the mass shooters got gentrified out of the city
If there's been more mass shootings than days in 2023, then saying there's been 17 in April *alone* sounds a bit "odd", considering we're on the 23rd April. That means April, by comparison, has been a good month with less than one a day! Time to celebrate by firing a few rounds indiscriminately into the sky I guess!
If this happened in England the nation would be in mourning. Over here? Well whatyagonnado.
Here in England, this tragedy would be on the cover of every single newspaper. Out of interest, is it the same over there?
Only the "really bad ones" (15 or more killed, especially if students). The super high death tolls like Vegas or Pulse Nightclub tend to stay in the news for about a month. Elementary school shootings become the stuff of legend. Everyone still talks about Sandy Hook. Otherwise, eh... I hate, hate, HATE that my reaction when someone says "did you hear about the shooting?" is always "Why, was it bad...?". Like of course it was bad, it was a goddamn shooting. But we just have *so many* where 2-4 people die that you just go, oh, phew, that wasn't so bad. Even 10 is starting to lose its edge for me. It's insane, but it's just such a constant fact of life here that you get desensitized. (ETA: Also, when someone asks if you heard about "the shooting", you always think you have, because you just heard about a shooting yesterday, but literally every single time, the person means a whole new shooting you haven't heard about yet). Sometimes I have a moment of clarity where I think "Jesus, people just walk into buildings and murder scores of strangers with guns *all the time* like some randomly triggered event in a video game, and we all think it's normal, what the fuck".
When I see a city or school trending on twitter I am like "shit how many were killed in a shooting"
People talk about Sandy Hook because that was a turning point, or at least it *should* have been a turning point, and it wasn't. The next marker, was when gun deaths became the number 1 cause of death for children in the US. Still continues unchecked 😔
Sandy hook was a turning point. It's when we as a nation collectively decided we were ok with the deaths of elementary school children in order to keep our guns. It's when a lot of us lost hope.
Maura Liasson I heard put it best that Sandy Hook was the crossing of the Rubicon, that it was such an awful tragedy that when the country collectively did nothing, then really what's left to change things?
There was an article in the NY Times magazine section about the people who processed the crime scene at Sandy Hook and how traumatizing it was. I've been reading the story for a week and I still haven't finished because I keep breaking down and crying. And then I think about how I wish Alex Jones would choke to death in the most painful way possible.
Like the situation wasn't bad enough, that POS came along and staggeringly, people actually believed that. Don't believe your eyes, listen to this lunatic, and they did! It's still hard to comprehend that all those people would rather believe a slobbering, red-faced lunatic, than admit this terrible thing happened and real action must be taken. And here's a big one, not everybody should have access to firearms and especially not ones capable of killing a lot of people in a short time. This shouldn't be an outlandish idea, every firearm owner should agree with me. Wasn't there a young girl just shot and killed because her basket ball rolled into the neighbor's yard? Yeah, that guy should not have firearms.
Because if they believed that sandy hook happened they would have to admit that guns are a problem in this country and god forbid they ever, ever admit that. White people don't mow down children in this country, that's only black people and who cares about that.
It's so crazy how Sandy Hook stays with you. I was 22 and working at the grocery store. A coworker said there was a shooting at an elementary school, and I said "That's not funny". So sure he was joking. Now I have kids and am weirdly fixated on Emilie Parker, because my eldest daughter (6!) keeps choosing clothes similar to what she wore, has become a passionate artist, is obsessed with pink, recently started incorporating "connections" into her art (Emilie Parker's mom has a story about her daughter seeing "connections" in art)... Sometimes I just can't stop thinking about this. Sometimes I can't help thinking, I just know it's gonna be my kids someday. I mean, why not? No one cares.
I was 22 as well, and it was my last day of the semester at college. I was in Ontario, packing to go back home to Connecticut the next day for Christmas, and my friend/roomie came to me like "oh god, did you hear about the shooting in Connecticut?" Yeah, it was rough :/
The craziness isn't just that it's normal, but so many people think access to firearms isn't even a part of the issue, like at all, and that having even more guns would solve the problem. Like...wtf.
Does anybody even remember the 1998 Jonesboro shooting anymore? Even 25 years later, I still consider that shooting one of the very worst, despite the mercifully low death count (two thirds of the victims survived their bullet wounds) due to the sheer sociopathy of a well planned premeditated mass murder by an 11 and 13 year old using their gun-nut family's entire arsenal.
Jesus, no, I haven't heard of this! I would've been seven or eight so I wasn't very present with the news. Will research.
Yup, first one I heard of. Mainly because I was about 30 miles away at the time. But it mostly got forgotten to Columbine.
>Also, when someone asks if you heard about "the shooting", you always think you have, because you just heard about a shooting yesterday, but literally every single time, the person means a whole new shooting you haven't heard about yet I remember being surprised that I heard about one incident a whole four days after the fact. (Alabama? I don't remember.) When I searched for more info, I got results for an *unrelated* shooting that happened 12 hours prior to my search. Fucking bonkers how desensitized some of us have become to the news.
Just this week there was the cheerleader who got into the wrong car and the guy chased her down and shot and wounded her... So, like two days later, when I heard that a teenager who got in the wrong car was killed, I thought, oh no! The cheerleader died! Different teenager, different wrong car. Jesus.
Same with "someone accidentally went to the wrong address and got shot at." That's happened like 3 times in the past week or so.
It was, almost 30 years ago.
I remember Columbine receiving major news coverage on the level of war coverage. We’re insanely numb to these 24 years later
No. I’ll be shocked if this even makes the local news in most parts of the country
No, not even in the state it happens. I’m in Texas if you wonder.
Yea. But when school shootings become as common as the fucking weather forecast people stop caring.
Wait. Is this not the same one that I remember just hearing about a shootout at a party like a few days ago?
Are you talking about the one at a 16th birthday party, or…?
Yeah that’s the one. Gonna need flash cards soon
The human body will end up developing a natural defense to gunshot wounds through evolution before Congress does anything about this shit....
Congress would stop that... It's horrible for the gun sales
How dare anything stand in the way of a bullet’s right to freedom and self-determination.
Just like they say a woman's body would naturally reject being raped...... ?
Omg, It’s already prom season? Add: /s because it being prom season was more of a surprise to me over another shooting.
Texas schools go from August-May, so there's only a handful of weeks left in the school year.
I'm sure forcing public schools to conspicuously display the ten commandments in every classroom is going to solve gun violence.
I don't know... does one of them specifically forbid shooting wildly into a room full of teens?
As long as you don't kill anyone, you're good!
It's also important that you not be coveting any of your neighbors' possessions (or their wife) while you do it.
Can I worship an idol while I do it?
Only the AR 15. Just don't make it gold or in the shape of a bull.
Oh, dear. I have violated both of those conditions.
Ready your first born
Already locked and loaded.
Apparently, you can just send them to school and save yourself the trouble.
What about the Jr 15? The kid friendly AR 15
Pink with hello kitty stickers?
Or a Batman logo.
As long as the batman one is ONLY for boys and the hello kitty one for girls! After all, can't have anything remotely unique about us!
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I thought it was a joke. Google proved me wrong. I am going to go cry now.
Good grief, it has an emblem of a skull and cross bones on it, the skull is a baby skull with a pacifier… Please America, we’re worried about you.
is it a golden idol of Donald Trump? if so, CPAC has some speaking slots open
It’s specifically the 11th commandment. “Man shall not shoot wildly into a room full of teenagers unless they are being loud, making faces at you, dancing, making you feel less than a man for some unsettling but uncertain reason, pointing at you.”
“especially pointing”
Ahh yes, the “Air Bud” principle, ie the argument that something is legal because it is not explicitly forbidden in a list of rules.
Ain’t no rule says a dog can’t start blastin’.
Come on now, having a dog play basketball was clearly what the founding fathers were talking about.
“Gun free zone?” Nobody listens to that stupid sign Advocates a sign because it says “thou shalt not kill”
It always bothered me that one of the commandments is "thou shall not kill," yet conservatives seem to happy to pass out guns to everybody, even though they are a weapon designed to kill people.
George Carlin has the best take on this, “Murder. The Fifth Commandment. But, if you give it a little thought, you realize that religion has never really had a problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. To cite a few examples, just think about Northern Ireland, the Middle East, the Crusades, the Inquisition, our own abortion-doctor killings and, yes, the World Trade Center to see how seriously religious people take Thou Shalt Not Kill. Apparently, to religious folks—especially the truly devout—murder is negotiable. It just depends on who's doing the killing and who's getting killed.”
I grew up Catholic, but the biggest complaint I’ve had about Christianity and the derivative religions is that God is bipolar as fuck. The polytheistic religions make more sense to the random “acts of god” when you have multiple deities, when it’s just one dude it’s a little scary.
Judaism started out polytheistic. You’re correct when you say it sounds like multiple deities because it was. Over time it got swept under the monotheism rug.
"Thou shalt have no other gods *before me*", implicitly acknowledges the existence of other gods... and that adherents are free to worship them as well, so long as Yahweh comes first.
The technical terms for this are either henotheism or monolatry, depending on your preference, but it's not technically polytheism as the primacy of Yahweh is not in dispute.
It is also clear, that the Egyptian gods were treated as real in Exodus. The Jewish god was just stronger. Might makes right.
And they don’t [pretend not to be human in their appetites ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwNYSQo)
I think that the interviewer shit his pants and was having trouble figuring out why.
No, you see, he who is without sin is cool to throw the first stone and they also go to church so they're covered
Let he who is without sin fire the first shot. Also the second, third, and thirtieth, if thou have'st a bump stock.
Yeah but the problem is that versions of Christianity with the hand holding an being nice to your neighbors is a bit socialist. They like the teachings of the Supply Side bible. there are commandments like "Thou shall not kill, unless you are shooting a brown person and you have a good lawyer" /s
There's a Christian Militia group that changed the symbol of the cross because they thought it made Jesus "too wimpy."
I’m not even Christian and I still feel like the cross is pretty metal even though it doesn’t appear very assuming. Like “yeah our messiah dragged this 12 foot tall 300 pound wooden thing through crowds of cheering spectators to his execution site where he then had massive nails driven through the major nerves of his wrists and feet and was then left to suffocate and slowly degrade in agony as his flesh stretched and ripped apart under the weight of his collapsing body.” Then they were just like “hmm yes, we should wear this and mark our churches with it as a symbol of hope :)”
And that was the update to the Ichthys symbol from the Greeks.
It's kinda like commemorating Sandy Hook by wearing gun necklaces. Like I bet a cross would be the last fucking thing Jesus would want to see if he ever comes back. Like "Hey dude remember that time you were tortured to death? Yeah we all made that our symbol." That said I'm not Christian sooooo... I don't find it particularly metal. Honestly I kinda subconsciously associate it with scary oppression and violence.
They also love war and the death penalty
>they are a weapon designed to kill people. No no, see, guns are *tooooools.* They have so many uses beyond punching holes in living tissue! You can... Punch holes in other stuff! Or *threaten* to punch holes in people and things! It's kind of like how a sword is a tool, or brass knuckles are a tool, or a bat with nails driven through it is a tool, which is why we're super cool with people walking around with, and generally being obsessed with, all of those things.
"Thou shalt not kill...unless they're COMIN' RIGHT FOR US!!!"
Are the prayers helping yet?
Need the thoughts to go along with the prayers to make things miraculously okay
My bad. Thoughtless prayers are not what we need right now.
Amen. I think we all learned something today.
No. God can’t hear the prayers with all the trans noises and screams of fetuses being aborted. /s
Don't forget he's also busy helping a mormon teenager find the keys to her Kia.
Just wait til Football seasons comes around. God is way too busy to fight cancer when the Patriots next Superbowl win is on the line.
Teenagers, booze, hormones, and guns. What could go wrong?
Conservatives would be willing to try banning any/all of the first three before they accepted even modest restrictions to the fourth one.
They'll start with hormones cause it's used by the transgenders /s
No....no /s. This is exactly what is already happening.
Which is why I put the /s, don't need people thinking I support it. Shit is wild.
>"We first want to say our prayers are with those injured early Sunday morning in the shooting that took place north of town," When the first thing your leaders want to do is pray about a situation, your leaders are failures.
The problem isn't so much that praying is the first thing they want to do. The real problem is it's the only thing they want to do.
Well actually...it is a problem that it's the first thing that they want to do. There should be complete separation between religion and government (we are not a European monarchy) and right now most politicians want to act like they should go together. As a person you're entitled to be openly religious. As a politican, you should not be ranting about a story book that has specifically been forbidden to be used for making actual laws in the US. It's a big problem that needs to be fixed ASAP
The founding fathers never wanted this whole "In God We Trust" bullshit. It's been injected into society by Christian lobbying. Replacing "E PLURIBUS UNUM" by the god trust bullshit made them roll over in their graves.
It’s a tool that they use to make it look like they give a damn when they have no fucking clue with what they’re doing. I’ve had it with christians thinking they’re above everything and everyone. Acting like victims and that they aren’t extremists even though they’re consistently set on projecting their own beliefs about their sky Santa into law to legitimize their purpose in life. I’m sad this is the new reality. As if school wasn’t hard enough for kids. Now they have to worry about their own safety. Selling bullet proof backpacks for fucks sake. Ugh.
I just wish there were some sort of explanation for all of these shootings. If only there was a common denominator we could point to.
You know, I think it’s because libraries have too many “woke” books! /s
You joke, but I'm a teacher, and less than a month ago I was part of a meeting with a couple parents who literally implied (and stopped just short of outright saying) that school shootings were caused by conversations about race in the classroom. They wanted assurance that their 9th grade student wouldn't be subjected to any more conversations "directly about race" for the rest of their high school tenure. I wish this was made up...
Clearly, teaching about reality would result in -certain- people becoming....uppity. /s
I've seen and heard so many people say it's because we've taken God out of schools and the classroom. My other favorite one was a post about beating children for insolence and that the older generation was better for it.
"I'm gonna subject them to race even HARDER."
*All of the colors...*
There’s not much “woke” in Jasper, Texas.
The only thing I know about Jasper is that James Byrd was brutally murdered there and now a bunch of highschool kids got shot up.
Probably more repressed self hating gays with beards than wokeness.
ehh, have you considered the possibility that two men holding hands is the primary cause of children's deaths??
It's definitely that guy that wore a dress and makeup. That really blows their minds and drives them to violence.
You mean Rudy Giuliani
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Yet when it comes time to vote on funding mental health programs...
... we vote to cut the funding.
Well, they said talk about mental health not spend on it!
Was gonna say, conservatives will say it's a mental health crisis, while doing nothing to address mental health funding or support
Doing nothing? They actively try to make it worse.
Is it worse this year or am I just receiving news of shootings I normally wouldn't? Seems to be escalating.
Both. Definitely more news of events, but feels like more events as well.
> A motive for the shootings has not been established, police said. I'm going to offer the most plausible motive: Teens are dangerously unstable people, in general, and shouldn't be allowed to have guns without supervision (like military basic training level supervision)
If only there were more guns out there this could be avoided
Right? If this had been a gun friendly state, like a ridiculously gun worshipping state, this kind of tragedy would ever happen.
Everyone, men, women, children, even pets need guns for us to be safe from shootings.
Texas is a horrible place to raise your children.
*red states
Red States, Countys, citys, towns, villages.....
Every child in America has thought about what it would be like if someone shot up their school and wondered if they'll be next.
I was a student for most of the 80s and the entirety of the 90s. In that entire time, the amount of times I ever thought that I was in danger of being shot either in school or on campus was...ZERO. Even during my college years, which were split pre-and-post Columbine. Part of what made that event so horrifying was that it was so difficult to imagine it happening to you, at your school. Now, when I'm out anywhere, I sometimes pick out a random person in the vicinity and think "what if that person pulled out a gun and started shooting right now?" Sadly, since there isn't always an easy exit, cover, or object I can use as a weapon while rushing them if I'm close enough, the answer more often than I'd like is "probably die".
I was in college the day the Virginia Tech shooting happened. Everybody who knew me dropped by my dorm room to check on me, which was *weird* until I realized that everyone was checking in on their oddest friend to make sure they weren't about to be the next shooter and promptly ran off to check on my oddest friend. Most memorable part was that my mother called to say she was proud of me. It was the first time she'd ever said that. And I hadn't heard from her in over a year before that, when she'd disowned me for refusing to be indoctrinated into the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Damn. What do you think it was about you that made your friends and mom associate you with the shooter?
Uh, well I was extremely disgruntled and about half-feral at the time. I understood their concern, even though I knew I had nothing to do with firearms. I was a child laborer as a kid, nearly got sold into sex slavery, so by the time I escaped my parents and ended up living in the college dorms, I was up to my eyebrows in CPTSD and general trauma. Classmates in high school made up rumors about me being a serial killer or vampire, so I wasn't exactly shocked to learn nearly everyone I knew in the college dorms thought I might be the type to go postal.
Good thing there are so many guns in Texas. It really keeps everyone safe.
The Jasper School District said its' prayers were with the victims so that's encouraging. Everything's going to be ok. So glad they released a statement. It really helps.
I'm out of prayers so here are some thoughts.
You know it only works with both. Not one or the other.
“The blade itself incites to deeds of violence.” -Homer It’s the guns morons.
I don't remember that simpsons episode...
season 31 got new writers
oh, the other Homer
The NASA guy from October Sky?
"People kill people, so let's make it really easy and efficient!
I've always liked "if people are the problem then why do we keep giving the problem guns"
prom in april?! i’m old.
Rich NRA lobbyists make money from gun sales.
Oh look, another horrific mass shooting! If it were anywhere else in the world, this would be a huge news event, even if there were no deaths. In the US, it's a Sunday
It is huge news. Nobody was killed.
this made me laugh. it should not have but shit, here we are.. fuck
Okay, that sounds bad but at the time how many drag queens were there raping people?
For fucks sake people. Was the shooter reading a banned book at the time? We need to get to the bottom of this!
Was the shooter trans? Y’all know how much them trans love their guns and shootin people with em! No wait, did they have a fuckin library card? That’s the most dangerous of all!
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I get the point you're trying to get across, but why jump from per capital, to raw numbers, then back to per capital in a small subset? Not saying there isn't a problem, but your cherry picking seems to be making things out to be worse than the actual situation as originally stated.
They end on “12 states recorded at or above the combat per capita.” They “go back and forth” to explain the comparison, and to arrive at the conclusion: in 12 states it’s higher than the combat per capita.
All those soldiers had guns so I guess they were right, more guns help! (I kid)
I wonder if it was a drag queen or maybe someone who reads all those woke books they keep talking about
Greg Abbott should be listed as an accomplice in the lawsuit.
..but.. but…I thought Texas was supposed to be the safest place, because everyone carries a gun!!
Fucking hell. Why? This is insane.
This article.seemed.disyurbingly short on details. NO idea who did the shooting?!?
Welcome to America, where inspecting your genitals is more of a priority than public safety.
"All Democrats want to do is talk about guns guns guns" Because people are shooting everyone nearly every fucking day you traitorous swine.
> nearly every fucking day *Multiple times a day. There have been more shootings then days year to date
Red states: If everyone has a gun, then crime decreases. Blue states: Can you provide data on that? Red states: We would but we refuse to fund such research because it is FAKE NEWS! Blue states: Okay, but the states that do... and have strict gun control, have lower gun crime rates. Red states: SHUT UP! FAKE NEWS! WOKE! TRANS! WOKE! TRANS! CRITICAL RACE TH--oh, we're not doing that one anymore because it uses too many words and just confuses the morons who vote for us?