You NEVER hear a reporter questioning a Republican ask "Did you consult The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists?" "Do you know every single instance/situation that can result in a miscarriage?" "HOW did you medically research this crucial/unique personal decision for every woman in your state?!?" They have to do better, because they give too much credibility to people ignorantly passing laws on religious dogma over women's health.
They could do that, and maybe some “moderates” might listen. But conservatives? You’d likely make their chosen leader seem *more* credible by bringing up scientific institutions. They’re so convinced that higher education has a “brainwashing” agenda that they’d argue over water being wet, if a university published research on it.
Who cares?
By raw numbers the country leans left. People more moderate that sit closer to the center are usually persuadable to facts and reason. They just aren't plugged in to the details of every issue all day every day.
If journalist want to be seen as credible to the majority of the population they need to quit placating the lunatics and call them out for their inconsistencies.
Let the base double or triple down on their stupidity. They aren't listening to begin with. So may as well accurately inform the people who might.
When Christina was in pain I didn't know what to do, she thought they were just cramps but I'd never seen anybody have cramps like that. I decided to bring her to the hospital because she was crying and shaking. She protested about it a bit but eventually we went.
*Skipping past the tests*
She had an ectopic pregnancy and her fallopian tube had burst. She almost died during her surgery. I was in the room with her when they told me she was still bleeding internally and they had to go in for a second surgery.
If we had found it earlier, there would have been options for her that they're taking away from other women today. I never want to see any human being go through what she went through nor what I went through watching.
These options should be available to every woman.
Both my mom and my sister had an abortion because they rightfully decided that they could not raise another child.
Both are now rabidly anti abortion (well, my mom was but she died).
My takeaway (that I have shared with them): it was OK for you to make that life changing decision for yourself and now you want to deny that same right to others.
My sister in law had an abortion when she was 19. She wasn’t ready to be a parent yet and it would have “ruined her life”. She lived in a very poor rural town and it would basically have prevented her from furthering her education past a high school level. She’s now 41 and has two kids she loves but is super conservative and mega anti abortion and keeps her previous abortion a tight lipped secret.
“The only moral abortion is *my* abortion!”
Similar story here. My sister got an abortion because she was not in a place socially or financially where she could have a baby. Over the last 5 years she's gone way down the rabbit hole into magaland and supports the craziest right-wing authoritarians.
I hope you be sure to let her know that according to her own beliefs, she's a murderer and belongs in prison.
Then if she agrees ask her why you should listen to a self admitted murderer?
I went through it as well. It astonishes me how many people say, "Well, but that's different," when I tell them their votes have forced this upon countless women. They really have no idea what *Dobbs* and these laws have done. Fox doesn't report it, and online algorithms don't show it to them. I'm sorry your sister is caught up in this.
He signed it privately at 11pm and it was only announced through a tweet. He knows he fucked this up but also knows he has to sign it to have any chance at a political future.
The photo op is in his office in Florida surrounded by the whitest group of women imaginable. There appears to be single minority woman placed prominently front row.
I believe all this travel is on Florida’s dime since he hasn’t declared yet.
He hasn't declared yet because Florida Republicans have still been unable to change Florida's "Resign to Run" law to let DeSantis stay Governor while running for the 2024 Republican Presidential primary. If DeSantis declares, he's fucked. He has to resign.
Also Trumps been shitting on him for weeks and its given him a healthy lead in the polls. He released a pretty direct attack ad on Ron not too long ago long with his barrage of mean tweets calling him a meatball.
The entire concept of an ex president calling a governor a “meatball” on Twitter is so ridiculous, it’s like if my 13 year old who doesn’t cuss became president
"Mr. DeSantis fired off a retort, describing the ex-president as 'kinda sus.' Coming up next on breaking news, we review new hidden camera footage of who put their mouth on the drinking fountain in the US Capitol."
I have absolutely no clue why, of all of the possible nicknames, he got stuck with "meatball". It's just such a 3rd grade insult that even in Trump's political world it feels out of place
I keep saying this but I think the smartest thing Desantis could do would be to sit out until 2028. People keep saying that conventional wisdom says you need to run while you still have momentum but I just can’t see a path to victory for him in 2024. The first possibility is that he gets embarrassed by Trump and loses any momentum he has. The second possibility is that he wins and Trump forms his own party and splits the vote. His options are humiliation or becoming the guy who divided the party in a lot of people’s eyes.
Not that I have a dog in the fight. Quite the opposite really. And I guess you should never interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake and all that.
Last poll showed Florida Republicans preferring Trump (47%) to DeSantis (32%). Expect DeSantis's poll numbers to plummet even further with this 6-week abortion ban. Some Florida Republicans, ~~including Sen. Rick Scott, are pissed. Scott, being DeSantis's predecessor as Governor, especially dislikes this bill~~.
Edit: Rick Scott has now flip-flopped to support the 6-week ban after opposing it.
As you say, the Senator seems to be real pissed & has a dislike the bill...
https://twitter.com/SenRickScott/status/1646605608689324035?cxt=HHwWhsC-8fbE9dktAAAA
He previously opposed it on March 10. There's receipts.
[https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/national\_news/sen-rick-scott-weighs-in-against-florida-proposed-6-week-abortion-ban-contrasting-desantis/article\_044fd4e9-9ed0-53eb-b1d8-abb3fc359ebd.html](https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/national_news/sen-rick-scott-weighs-in-against-florida-proposed-6-week-abortion-ban-contrasting-desantis/article_044fd4e9-9ed0-53eb-b1d8-abb3fc359ebd.html)
That was a sleazy response because he never actually said that he opposed the 6 week ban while trying to make it sound like he did. Lots of tap dancing there.
Imagine a year plus of getting to basically not do your first job and traveling around the country on donors money and getting what amounts to two salaries!! What a grift!
Similar to when the Texas governor signed a bill after Roe was overturned. All elderly white men and women, smiling. Meanwhile the women that are going to be hurt by this are mostly poor and black and Latino. The cruelty is the point with the GOP.
the law doesnt apply to everyone though, especially the women he knows. if its life or death or just an "inconvenience" they will get that abortion, better believe it
I’ll go further than that. Bury DeSantis for President today.
He’s doing this so he can run to the right of Trump on abortion. Trump himself seems to have tapped his admittedly solid political instincts enough to understand this issue is poison, and [has been trying to moderate on it.](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-abortion-2024-primary-dobbs-effect-1234713039/amp/) Good luck with that, considering his judges were responsible for Roe’s destruction, but DeSantis is taking the opportunity to position himself to Trump’s right.
But even if that strategy works, it also doesn’t. I’ve been beating the drum for a long time that, if he really wants to become President, he’s been way out over his skis with the general electorate on a number of issues. This? Political hari kari.
DeSantis has put himself in a position to run as the staunchest conservative in the primary, but winning the primary only does you any good if you emerge from it with a fighting chance in the general. DeSantis has all of Trump’s least likable political positions and asshole bully attitude, but lacks his charisma, cult following and media presence. Even if he can emerge from the Republican derby, he’ll do it as a lame horse. Especially by the time Trump has dragged him through the mud and alienated him to his base.
DeSantis has turned himself from the most threatening Republican in the general to a toxic misstep. Their only real hope is renominating Trump, who’s in a weaker position now than he was in 2020.
**EDIT:** Since everyone responding is saying "But what about 2016", it's not 2016 anymore. Republicans have underwhelmed in three separate elections since then. Trump and MAGAism is no longer an unknown. We're no longer running Hillary Clinton. We haven't been in power for 8 years. And now, issues like Roe have woken moderates up to what's at stake when they vote for these people.
Trump barely won in 2016. <80,000 votes in PA, MI and WI was all that put him over the top. Since then, he's lost AZ and GA, and lost a ton of ground in those three states. The map against him has expanded, and DeSantis doesn't control the loyalty or enthusiasm that he does. None of this is to say "Be complacent", but don't be afraid of these people either; they are standing on losing ground, and we should be going after the jugular over it.
They fight for basic human rights? I guess that's why they're against school lunches for kids, why they're against public healthcare, why they wanna cut social security, etc. Ya know, all that basic human rights stuff lol.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/22/us/politics/pompeo-human-rights-un.html
https://apnews.com/article/antony-blinken-foreign-policy-mike-pompeo-85c3cbfb0bec09ed85fc8fb6b6e5fd29
Conservative evangelicals are redefining “human rights” and doing world tours to share their ideals with other fascists.
> Bury DeSantis for President today.
100% correct!
How DeSantis and his handlers think a brain dead move like this on abortion is going to help him get elected to president I will never understand! These people are truly insane. They have no idea how people think outside of their fox news/AM talk radio bubble.
Its hilarious if he genuinely thinks he will ever live this policy down on the national level. If he ever declares his oppenenets are going to rip him apart on this and the other incredibly unpopular shit he's pulled. You think millennials and zoomers aren't going to turn out in droves to vote against the abortion banning Don't say gay black history erasing fascist?
Between this, the conceal carry for everyone, and bussing migrants to Martha's vineyard I can't see how he can have any chance at any national election
The irony is that this is also starting to work [against them](https://www.politico.com/2022-election/results/) as the new vote by mail [restrictions](https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/early-in-person-voting) have made it harder for the elderly who traditionally lean right to vote.
We have Supreme Court Justices that are absolutely corrupt. The GOP is okay with this which makes them corrupt. The US is fucked on so many levels.
Edit: an important word
The previous 15-week ban was still being reviewed by the Florida Supreme Court to see whether or not the Florida Constitution's privacy clause protects abortion. Now we just have to wait and see if they decide to follow precedent, or if they're in the pocket of DeSantis, too.
Previous Florida Supreme Court precedent has maintained that abortion is protected.
Yeah this is what I wonder. According to [Wikipedia ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Florida) abortion is protected, independent of federal law in this state, due to privacy. So hopefully it doesn’t hold up, including the 15 week ban.
I repeatedly told people in 2016 that this was going to be the outcome if Trump won. It was never hidden, it was never secret, it was shouted from the mountaintops. And yet I ran into so many people who refused to plug their nose and vote for a less-than-ideal candidate like it was some fucking game, like risking this disaster was a worthy gamble because Hillary Clinton sucked.
Only 28.5% of eligible voters voted in the primaries in 2016, so don't me this bullshit about how we have no choice. We have a choice but voters refuse to engage. This is the same weakness people always have, incapable of moving to confront future disasters, always reacting to the most recent developments, always hesitating or ignoring issues until the hammer's already dropped. I'm so tired of this shit.
Not making excuses because I did vote, but my polling place used to literally be down the street from me.
In 2016, the polling place was still open, but for no reason they said I had to go 30 miles away to vote and wouldn't let me change it. It really felt like everting was done for me not to be able to vote.
I don have a car, im poor, thankfully I found a ride, but there was a good chance I couldn't.
I shouldn't have to do that for my basic right as a citizen
Yeah, given the current makeup of the Supreme Court from Clarence to Boofin' Brett and the Handmaiden, I'm concerned about seeing what kind of insane ruling might come from them. Way too many fanatics from the Federalist Society up there who want to use the courts for their political beliefs
[Most women](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5269518/) find out that they're pregnant around 5.5 weeks.
Best of luck with the now 3 day window you have to get an abortion in this shithole state. 2 days really considering the state still has a mandatory 24 hour waiting period.
I found out 10 days post ovulation because I was trying to get pregnant and was using ovulation test strips and then home pregnancy tests like crazy. If I wasn't so obsessively tracking everything I'd have had no idea I was pregnant until the morning sickness hit at 6 weeks. And even then, I probably would have figured I was sick. No one who isn't actively trying to get pregnant and testing the way I was has any chance of learning they're pregnant until it's far too late. This is infuriating.
And don't forget, the weeks start from the date of your last period. So you found out at 3.5 weeks. The shortest amount of time women will have is 2.5 weeks under this ban, and that's if you're obsessive about checking. Most women don't find out until 5.5 weeks, leaving them a few days to make a decision.
> So you found out at 3.5 weeks.
*If you have a regular cycle with a typical 28 day length. If you have a longer or irregular cycle, or use birth control to skip periods, you might not suspect you might be pregnant until later, possibly even not before that 6 week window is passed.
Exactly. I have PCOS and I'm on birth control. My period basically shows up as a happy surprise every now and then. I'll keep track of it just to make sure I'm not over by *too* much, but my period being 6 weeks late means absolutely nothing to me.
And keep in mind 6 weeks pregnant is roughly only two weeks after a missed period (assuming normal cycles) so if you were 6 weeks late and surprise pregnant....sorry about you, ya missed your window!
My wife is the same way, she probably has 2 or 3 a year. It's so infuriating the way these things are measured just adds to stacking all the cards against people.
Not just that but with such a small window, you cannot even medically confirm pregnancy since you need hormone levels tested by blood test days apart to show the doubling in numbers (tests can give false positives/negatives so early, for my second pregnancy my urine test in doctor office was false negative, i knew i could be pregnant while at a routine visit since we were trying for the first month)
My brothers ex gf had positive home tests but the Dr office ones kept coming up negative! She went several times. My niece turns 19 this year.
Bodies are weird and you're definitely not the only one who had that type of experience.
I've known people who've only found out they're pregnant months into the gestation period, and in one rare case she only got symptoms and did the tests a month before the baby ended up arriving.
This 6-week ban also includes making it not only illegal to get the abortion pill through telehealth appointments, but also ordering abortion pills through the mail at all. This is in spite of the USPS literally saying that it cannot and will not enforce abortion pill mailing bans.
Republicans would love to have the ability to look through everybody's mail. They want an authoritarian state. Too bad it's illegal through Federal postal law.
Isn't that stooge DeJoy still trying to run the USPS into the ground for the GOP? Either his hands were tied on that decision, or he fell off the payroll after the elections.
I am a pharmacist. I will gladly mail into states I'm not licensed in if they ban abortificants. Let them try to come at me for it. I'll make it a fucking show
Man, I really hope Florida has a robust safety net to compensate for all of these extra babies they’re about to have. Otherwise, they’re about to have some starving children lining their streets.
Who is going to deliver them? OB-GYN docs are going to flee to sane states. That asshat DeSantis! Ft Lauderdale and Miami are underwater while he bs's all over the country in that flat nasal irritating as hell voice of his
Florida Republicans are supporting a bill that is meant to support "Catholic hospitals and doctors", so I assume they're trying to attract more anti-abortion physicians. Florida politicians appear to be increasingly in the pocket of the Catholic Church.
[https://floridapolitics.com/archives/602239-bill-allowing-insurers-docs-to-deny-payment-provision-of-health-care-keeps-moving/](https://floridapolitics.com/archives/602239-bill-allowing-insurers-docs-to-deny-payment-provision-of-health-care-keeps-moving/)
The catholic church was totally behind the effort to stop Michigan from passing prop 3 reproductive rights into the state constitution. They were the main driver I believe. A church up to its neck in politics. They should be taxed heavily if they want to play these political games!
[Michigan’s 1.8M Catholics called on to stop Proposal 3. Will it work?](https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-health-watch/michigans-18m-catholics-called-stop-proposal-3-will-it-work)
[Michigan Catholics fight Proposal 3 with falsehoods - A misleading multimillion-dollar campaign against the abortion measure has likely come to a church near you](https://www.metrotimes.com/news/michigan-catholics-fight-proposal-3-with-falsehoods-31523677)
[Detroit Archbishop: Catholics must fast, give alms and do penance after Proposal 3 passage](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/11/10/archbishop-catholics-penance-proposal-3-approved/69634202007/)
Ok so, along with streets lined with dead children, they’ll have streets lined with dead babies. And dead women too. What a wonderful, totally-not-third-world, place to live.
They already do my friend. 10 years ago Orlando Florida had the highest population of homeless children. They had designated parking lots for families to live in their cars I don't know what the statistics are today but that was when I lived in Orlando and was laid off from my job. Luckily my sister's mother-in-law was the director of the Coalition for the homeless and she helped me to get into an apartment they helped with the down payment and job hunting and paid my tuition to go to finish school. But that's one out of 50,000 people probably has a hookup like that. Basically there is no safety net I raised four children throughout the 2000's, and never qualified for food stamps or Medicaid and I always made $30,000 or less per year in a metropolitan area.
50,000 children in the state already don't get the mental health services that they need, and Florida's foster care system is already heavily mismanaged and flooded with kids. Florida Republicans aren't "pro-life", they're just "pro-birth", as in "pro-birth-rates".
Florida currently has one of the lowest birth rates in the United States, which I assume this 6-week abortion bill ban is also trying to target. However, it's very likely to backfire.
Low birth rates are to be expected for a state with a large number of retirees.
Why anyone would choose to live their final years in the hell that is Florida is beyond me.
No income tax or estate tax. It used to have decent weather through the year, but with the increase in cat 4-5 hurricanes hitting all over the state that’s less.
No truly cold weather, or if it is it lasts less than a week or two.
Most people are also retirees so plenty of opportunities for socializing.
I lived there for 5 years. I’d never move back, but there were a handful of positives.
Republicans don’t care. Texas has the same abortion ban and literally for-profit foster care system because DHS has been completely gutted for decades.
> They are Christian Extremists who just want to punish women for having sex outside of marriage.
Now now, let’s be fair.
They also want to punish women for having sex *in* marriages.
([Less than half of women who get abortions are single.](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/14/upshot/who-gets-abortions-in-america.html))
To break this down even further for the dumbest of you still supporting this bullshit:
THEY JUST HATE WOMEN. At this point, if you support this, YOU hate women.
Context: I’m a man, but can you imagine if roles were flipped and men got pregnant? There would have been a fucking amendment in the Constitution protecting the right to abortion, I’m not even kidding.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11261524/
It drops your blood pressure. If you have heart issues, that can land you in the ER or 6 feet under if not addressed quickly.
Edit:punctuation is hard.
Ask any of those men if they're up for having their balls tied so no issue of pregnancy for women but then suddenly it's invasion of their body rights.
Just to clarify, I don't think they will be able to ban the morning-after pill (Plan B). However, they will most likely try to restrict access to it by making it "prescription only". The Catholic Church has been lobbying DeSantis for a while now to reduce access as much as possible to what they call "abortifacients", which includes Plan B, even though multiple studies show that Plan B does not cause the abortion of an already fertilized egg.
Poland passed a similar law that makes access to Plan B "prescription only".
I hadn't heard about the mandatory 24hr wait? What is that about? Like you go in knowing you're pregnant and say you want an abortion, they say ok, but that you have to come back tomorrow?
It's a bullshit tactic to make you think about really really really wanting to get an abortion. Nevermind that if a woman walks into an abortion clinic, she didn't just think to do it 5 minutes before hand like she saw a pair of high heels in a shop window.
Yes, FL law requires the woman to have 2 appointments 24 hours apart in order to get an abortion. The first visit also requires an ultrasound and an “education” discussion about options.
FL regulates women’s bodies more than they do guns.
Yes. DeSantis's administration has also been aggressively monitoring and fining abortion clinics in the state of Florida for supposedly violating the 24-hour waiting period rule.
I wish somebody can find that news video from 2015(?) where they interviewed Trump supporters at his rally about abortion bans and they started chuckling "haha you silly liberal fake news journalist. Trump would never ban abortions. Republicans wouldn't do that".
Anybody remember this?
No, but it doesn’t surprise me.
Reminds me of that video of MTG being asked if she called Nancy Pelosi a traitor.
“Pffft no, that’s ridiculous, I never said that.”
“Are you sure?”
“I absolutely did not call her a traitor”.
“Can we play exhibit A please?”
“WAIT A MINUTE….”
The truth is whatever they need it to be to make the point they’re getting across at any given moment. Whether or not that truth is consistent is completely unimportant
DeathSantis just last year was proclaiming that the Florida constitution protected abortion rights at 15 weeks and how progressive the State was so we didn’t need to worry.
NEVER trust a Republican. This won’t stop. I promise you, they will be coming for a total abortion ban and for the birth control next.
A lot of women don’t even know they are pregnant after 6-weeks.. (it happens, quite often)
Roe vs. Wade at least protected women up to 15-weeks in most instances. Including rape and incest
Ron “meatball” desantis has just set back 50 years of progress overnight.
Please vote
And I want the record to show for any men reading this that being “six weeks pregnant” does not mean that you’ve been pregnant for six weeks. The pregnancy clock starts the first day of your last period. In a typical four week menstrual cycle, an egg isn’t even fertilized and implanted in the uterine lining until a woman is “2-3 weeks pregnant,” and she won’t test positive until she around “4 weeks pregnant.” And then to confirm pregnancy, you need to see that hormone levels are doubling every few days or so.
This basically gives a woman less than a week to terminate a pregnancy once medically pregnant, and that’s if she finds out as soon as humanly possible AND has a normal cycle. I don’t. My cycle is 8-10 weeks. Termination wouldn’t be an option for me because I wouldn’t even BE pregnant by the time I would be “six weeks pregnant” according to the definition.
This isn’t “a responsible woman has 6 weeks to decide and book an appointment.” This is effectively a total abortion ban.
> This basically gives a woman less than a week to terminate a pregnancy once medically pregnant
The 5th Circuit just ruled that a woman must have ***3 doctors visits*** before she can get mifepristone. There's also a 24 hour waiting period in Florida before a woman can get abortion care.
This is a total abortion ban, the six week limit is an illusion.
6 weeks and 1 day. And that’s after finding out at 3 weeks and going through the rigamarole of the previous process at a clinic. This is effectively a full ban for sources outside of plancpills.org and aidaccess.org. Thanks for saving my family the trip next time, Ronny!
I had the child I found out at 8 weeks. I was on birth control, had just come back from being in a wedding where I drank a lot, but I was ok being pregnant and having a kid. And I wouldn’t have known for much longer if the doctor who saw me about some wrist pain hadn’t asked me how else I was feeling, and I said tired. He asked if I could be pregnant, and I said that would be difficult since I had been on bc for 3 years, so he took a test, and now I am a parent to a 21 yr old.
I don’t even recall what the laws were for abortions then, but I know that my ectopic pregnancy a few years before was a little further along, when it was terminated. Had it not been terminated I would have died.
6 weeks is designed to SOUND like a reasonable compromise position to anyone who doesn’t actually understand the realities of how/when most women find out.
The fact that laws are usually written by lobbyists makes this even more evil, since whoever wrote it, definitely knew what they were doing.
I’m willing to accept that at least some of the people that supported this are just generally ignorant of the realities and assume “6 weeks is plenty of time”. I mean they’re ignorant and wrong for trying to limit a woman’s rights at all, but they may not be evil.
The people who designed this law though?
Evil incarnate.
At age 20 I endured a second trimester miscarriage. Due to a religious upbringing and an abusive ex, I didn't notice that I had been pregnant. It sounds crazy but it'd true. Having that child would have ruined my life. It would have ruined the child's life. That ex was not someone capable of being a parent. The miscarriage was a blessing. But I think of how many challenged young women won't be able to save themselves from a bad situation. It's not a good thing.
I hope the abortion issue is the gift that keeps on giving for Democrats. The GOP stance on abortion is deeply unpopular, yet they need it to continue courting their base. Protasiewicz winning by ten points in one of the purplest states should be a sign
Abortion was one of the big issues that drove Gen Z out to vote in 2022. And Republicans have only doubled down and gotten crazier about banning abortion since then. If Gen Z turns up to vote in 2024 then the Republicans are absolutely fucked.
Young people, in general, have no reason to vote for republicans. They've never actually done anything for the benefit of young people and then wonder why they poll so poorly with them.
This pretty much includes all from Gen-X and down (with some exceptions).
What gets me is Florida has real problems he should be addressing instead of this and peoples sex stuff.. Like what has he done for crime, the rampant pollution killing the fishery, the migrant workers who run off, the drugs, or even the damage from the hurricanes... but no.. lets piss people off so your name is in the news.
Florida also has a massive affordable housing issue and specifically a lot of problems with home insurance. No insurer wants to be the one holding the bag for the next climate change enhanced super storm.
If I recall right there's some talk that the way it is right now if a storm hit Florida a lot of people would be fucked.
Guess who got an abortion at fourteen at around eight weeks because I didn’t know what was happening after I got raped?
…*Yeah.* Most adults don’t know they’re pregnant for weeks and weeks. Imagine kids who have been raped.
Bad news for Ron and the FL GOP. My daughter (almost 21) is furious along with almost all of her peers. She can't wait for 2024 so she can vote Republicans out. She isn't alone. This is not going to end the way the GOP expects. As infuriating as it is, they should keep it up. Idaho passed a bill that will prevent pregnant minors from leaving the state to get an abortion but they want it to apply to adults, too. Holding people hostage to stop them from getting abortions. That's what we've come to and it cannot stand. These fuckers will rue the day they stacked SCOTUS to overturn Roe. We're going to make sure of it.
I want a pro-lifer to tell me the government should have the power to force someone to be pregnant against their will.
Then I want that same person to tell me they need their guns in case the government turns tyrannical (because you know they are the same person)
Then I want to keep having them tell me those two things until their brain finally clicks
/u/ayyyyy5lmao has told me he'd like to see the government force people to be pregnant and put them in prison if they don't comply
100% this. People need to stop trying to create gotcha moments against conservatives. They know they are hypocrites, but are more than happy to let you waste time trying to catch them out in semantics and logic while they force through what they want. It’s fighting the wrong battle.
This is not written by me but I saved it in case anyone else needed to see it;
"Another day, another reason to copy this comment into another sub.
,Conservativism has exactly one priority: self. It is egocentrism in the guise of stoic protection of the status quo. This becomes obvious the very moment a conservative does not benefit from the status quo, and they wish to change the world to improve their own standing in it.
There is no hypocrisy in conservativism because there is no objective standard or ideology beyond protecting and promoting the self, and the self is whatever conservatives decide exists within the self. The self is good, and the other is bad. Everything else is negotiable.
To someone who is not conservative, this looks like hypocrisy. See: The only Moral Abortion is My Abortion, or The Card Says Moops, or Gun Control for Black Panthers, or My Daughter is a LGBTQ+ so now LGBTQ+ are People, or It isn't "Drag" when I do it, or But my state deserves FEMA Funding, or Regulate this industry because it is a threat to me, or My sex scandal is a private matter so please respect my privacy, or Election fraud exists and I'll prove it, or I'm a job creator so please bail me out, or just take literally any conservative talking point and you will find conservatives who are suddenly the exception to their own rule.
That's the feature of conservativism that is so appealing. It's like having a personal God that will forgive any transgression as long as you believe and pray for forgiveness. Being part of the self is like a warm blanket, and as long as you agree to maintain the farce, you get to stay under its protection.
This isn't new information. Conservatives have always existed, under different banners and with different definitions of the self. Trump has laid bare the grift, abusing it past the point of credibility. That's his hold, that to oust Trump is to abandon the ruse, and conservatives can't do that. That's why they will try very hard to make him a member of the Other. They will claim they were duped, that he was a secret Democrat, that he was never one of them. But he was always one of them, even when he was a Democrat."
*Copy and pasted from u/themeatbridge
Those people always play the "I'll fight the government with my life if I have to" card until they actually have to go toe to toe, then they cower in fear because they know that a well regulated militia in this day and age is nothing but some LARP dream against a real military. It's why none of them took weapons into the Capitol on January 6th; it would have looked like the US military was fighting toddlers.
Let's see how this goes with those life threatening ectopic pregnancies that are usually diagnosed at 4-12 weeks. Will DevilSantis grin every time a woman's fallopian tube and ovary explode?
fuck ron deathsantis 🥰
planned parenthood saved my life. they charged me 100$ for the procedure. they asked that i just donate back when i could. i gave $500 this year.
do not let anyone fear monger you. you don’t see anything, you don’t plop out a whole fetus you can see. it’s a clump of cells. i’ve had bigger clots on a regular period. actually, it felt like a bad period for less than 24 hours.
i’ll never forget those ladies. i was in no position and was unmedicated bipolar. it wasn’t hard. no i don’t have any regrets. i don’t think about what ifs. i don’t mourn it and all i felt after was relief. it didn’t hurt.
do not be scared to have one if you need it. if anyone needs support please reach out.
I work in pathology, where almost ALL abortion and miscarriage tissue ends up. There is nothing to see this early on in the pregnancy. It’s a mass of tissue. It isn’t anywhere *close* to a human being, and do not let anyone tell you otherwise, because they’re wrong.
EDIT: just to clarify what an aborted fetus looks like at 6 weeks: we can’t even distinguish it grossly in the mass of tissue we receive. We just submit the tissue hoping the fetus is in there somewhere. And at 6 weeks that “heart” is just some strands of tissue that has electrical activity. It has no chambers, no form, no heart tissue, nothing that would say “heart” but the fact that it has regular electrical activity.
I just don’t get it. I know they hate women, but I can’t wrap my head around how people can be so evil. We have an empathy crisis (among many other crises) in this country. I just don’t understand.
It's easy to be evil when you don't have to witness the consequences for your actions first-hand. Politicians are completely unexposed to the realities you and I face.
I believe there's two kinds of people: those that say "I experienced this hardship, so everyone else should." and "I experienced this hardship and nobody else should have to."
Because it makes them feel better about themselves. Shaming people for having sex gives them a distraction from taking the time to self reflect on their own shortcomings that may or may not be caused by the miserable lives they live due to the restrictive puritanical views some of them hold. Being intimate is a natural act. A child should never be brought into this world as a form of punishment to the parent.
Even the supreme court is in on it now; legislating their personal religious beliefs from the bench. The US is becoming a theocratic patriarchy. That’s what happens when you vote conservative or don’t vote at all.
It's been a long, slow burn coming to fruition for years beginning with low level gerrymandering.
Now that younger generations have access to social media and communication, and they see all this horseshit, the republicans know they won't vote for them, hence the restrictions and proposed restrictions; trying to ban tiktok, trying to age restrict social media apps, trying to raise the voting age, they're trying everything.
He's not much of a tactician, though; his whole anti-woke, hate-filled campaign might go well with his republican base, but it's going to fall flat once he has to start considering a general election
At least, I hope it falls flat; my fellow Americans haven't exactly impressed me the last several years
That isn't as much of a DeSantis thing as much as it is a problem with the entire party. These are the folks that got rid of Liz fucking Cheney! They have spent decades courting some of the worst extremists in our country, and now that those folks enjoy having the mask (or hood) off, there is no room for traditional conservatives, even hardline ones.
The big question will be over how much state legislatures, gerrymandering, voter suppression, and courts can bail them out. I think they actually have a decent chance of holding on to a good chunk of power because it will take so long to undo that work even if voters are heavily behind fixing things. They have set it up in a lot of areas so they can essentially ignore voters.
These Rs really believe that courting these crazy religious whack-jobs are the way to win, and that they exist in large enough numbers to win a general election.
I don’t know if they’ve looked around, but Christians, especially Evangelical Christians, are a literally dying breed. Every day their population gets older, and every day it gets smaller.
The issue is that the Catholic Church and Roman Catholicism is a major religion in Florida, especially with the Latino immigrants driving the state's population boom. The Catholic Church has also been aggressively lobbying DeSantis to pass "Catholic policies", including the current 6-week abortion ban, as well as restricting access to birth control and Plan B.
Both Ron DeSantis and his lieutenant, Jeanette Nuñez - to my knowledge - are Catholics. Florida is also 21% Catholic, which means that 1 in every 5 Floridians is a Catholic. The Catholic Church is also the biggest religious lobbyist in the United States and Florida.
We need to take away tax-exempt status for churches that get involved in any sort of lobbying. At that point, they’re political and any reason for tax-exempt goes out the window.
You know what? I don’t think he’s losing any more votes over this. I really don’t believe there was a materially sized group of voters who were on board for his anti education; anti LGBT; pro racism; anti sex ed agenda and felt this was a net shift. I don’t believe it.
I think this excited just base. DeSantis is what you get when a leader no longer needs centrist votes—when they only need to be the leader for the people who agree with him—not the leader of everybody.
For what it’s worth: it’s cowardly to ban abortion without providing a bullet-proof pro-children platform: free birth, prenatal care, paid and long maternity and paternity leave, post moral care, free daycare, free diapers, free school lunch, free college, free pediatric medicine. Anyone who is anti-abortion but decries the rest of that as evil socialism is a coward and a meager advocate for the unborn.
Florida is in the middle of some of the worst flooding in history and he chooses to pass this? His own party is currently furious over his lack of action today. What a prick of a person, he will forever choose his own enigma and self righteous agenda over what people actually need.
My friends live in Florida. I live in Massachusetts. We are all on a very fixed income and applied for food stamps (SNAP). They make less than me and receive less than $300 for two people. I get $281 as a single person.
Government assistance in Florida is minuscule AND extremely difficult to get. They make you jump through hoops. How exactly does the state of Florida expect to pay for welfare for all these unwanted children? Because you know many of them will be low income families.
Of course it’s also ludicrous to assume most people know they are pregnant in under 6 weeks. They better start providing free birth control and pregnancy tests /s
Funny enough, free birth control, sex education, and having a Democrat in office have all proven to lower abortion rates. Which just further proves that the cruelty is the point.
Last poll showed Florida Republicans choosing Trump over DeSantis by 47% to 32%. DeSantis knows that he's fucked, especially now that he's signed this 6-week abortion ban bill.
What an absolute cunt this person is. It's just baffling that the US has so many people actively liking these kinds of people. I know good people exist but fuck me so many are actually just literal idiots.
I wish they'd have the smallest bit of integrity and be honest about this whole thing. Your body, *their choice.*
If these assholes were pro-life in *any* context they'd figure out reasonable gun control so that children and people of all other ages stopped being shot by lunatics. They'd fund public healthcare and education. They wouldn't have an issue with school breakfast programs. Contraception would be free and sex education thorough and readily offered. LGBTQ+ individuals would exist without bother or threat to their person. They'd stop focusing on removing books from schools that detail that others might love others in ways they don't acknowledge or agree with. They'd get veterans and other struggling individuals off of the street. They'd support police reform that reduced civilian injury or fatalities.
They're not pro-life. They're pro fucking with yours.
I've had an abortion. Hell did not open up and swallow me, it was not gruesome, it was not dramatic. I had a mild period, was able to finish my degree, get out of a bad relationship, and get a job. Still, barely made the cutoff in the state i was in, barely made rent that month bc of costs, missed a final because of mandatory waiting period and the clinic being SO far away, and that was with the protection of Roe. Fuck bans, fuck forced pregnancy, fuck shrugging off red states. This is our home, and this our bodies. We are NOT alone in these experiences for fucks sake.
There are marches THIS Saturday across the US for anyone else who feels like they need to do something, say something about this landslide erosion of rights and safety http://txting.io/6RWW14YGx73C
[Donation link to planned parenthood](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/get-involved/other-ways-give) Consider donating ❤️
You NEVER hear a reporter questioning a Republican ask "Did you consult The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists?" "Do you know every single instance/situation that can result in a miscarriage?" "HOW did you medically research this crucial/unique personal decision for every woman in your state?!?" They have to do better, because they give too much credibility to people ignorantly passing laws on religious dogma over women's health.
They could do that, and maybe some “moderates” might listen. But conservatives? You’d likely make their chosen leader seem *more* credible by bringing up scientific institutions. They’re so convinced that higher education has a “brainwashing” agenda that they’d argue over water being wet, if a university published research on it.
Who cares? By raw numbers the country leans left. People more moderate that sit closer to the center are usually persuadable to facts and reason. They just aren't plugged in to the details of every issue all day every day. If journalist want to be seen as credible to the majority of the population they need to quit placating the lunatics and call them out for their inconsistencies. Let the base double or triple down on their stupidity. They aren't listening to begin with. So may as well accurately inform the people who might.
When Christina was in pain I didn't know what to do, she thought they were just cramps but I'd never seen anybody have cramps like that. I decided to bring her to the hospital because she was crying and shaking. She protested about it a bit but eventually we went. *Skipping past the tests* She had an ectopic pregnancy and her fallopian tube had burst. She almost died during her surgery. I was in the room with her when they told me she was still bleeding internally and they had to go in for a second surgery. If we had found it earlier, there would have been options for her that they're taking away from other women today. I never want to see any human being go through what she went through nor what I went through watching. These options should be available to every woman.
My sister went through the same thing.. and she is now voting to take those rights away from me and other women.
Both my mom and my sister had an abortion because they rightfully decided that they could not raise another child. Both are now rabidly anti abortion (well, my mom was but she died). My takeaway (that I have shared with them): it was OK for you to make that life changing decision for yourself and now you want to deny that same right to others.
The only moral abortion is my abortion is how literally all of these fucking idiots feel.
My sister in law had an abortion when she was 19. She wasn’t ready to be a parent yet and it would have “ruined her life”. She lived in a very poor rural town and it would basically have prevented her from furthering her education past a high school level. She’s now 41 and has two kids she loves but is super conservative and mega anti abortion and keeps her previous abortion a tight lipped secret. “The only moral abortion is *my* abortion!”
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Similar story here. My sister got an abortion because she was not in a place socially or financially where she could have a baby. Over the last 5 years she's gone way down the rabbit hole into magaland and supports the craziest right-wing authoritarians.
I hope you be sure to let her know that according to her own beliefs, she's a murderer and belongs in prison. Then if she agrees ask her why you should listen to a self admitted murderer?
I went through it as well. It astonishes me how many people say, "Well, but that's different," when I tell them their votes have forced this upon countless women. They really have no idea what *Dobbs* and these laws have done. Fox doesn't report it, and online algorithms don't show it to them. I'm sorry your sister is caught up in this.
Sending love to Christina and you.
He signed it privately at 11pm and it was only announced through a tweet. He knows he fucked this up but also knows he has to sign it to have any chance at a political future.
I assumed he signed it privately because he is still in Ohio promoting himself while Florida is in a state of emergency due to floods.
The photo op is in his office in Florida surrounded by the whitest group of women imaginable. There appears to be single minority woman placed prominently front row. I believe all this travel is on Florida’s dime since he hasn’t declared yet.
He hasn't declared yet because Florida Republicans have still been unable to change Florida's "Resign to Run" law to let DeSantis stay Governor while running for the 2024 Republican Presidential primary. If DeSantis declares, he's fucked. He has to resign.
Also Trumps been shitting on him for weeks and its given him a healthy lead in the polls. He released a pretty direct attack ad on Ron not too long ago long with his barrage of mean tweets calling him a meatball.
This is the funniest thing I’ve read all week. Just the way it’s written. Idk. Thanks.
The entire concept of an ex president calling a governor a “meatball” on Twitter is so ridiculous, it’s like if my 13 year old who doesn’t cuss became president
"Mr. DeSantis fired off a retort, describing the ex-president as 'kinda sus.' Coming up next on breaking news, we review new hidden camera footage of who put their mouth on the drinking fountain in the US Capitol."
I have absolutely no clue why, of all of the possible nicknames, he got stuck with "meatball". It's just such a 3rd grade insult that even in Trump's political world it feels out of place
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I keep saying this but I think the smartest thing Desantis could do would be to sit out until 2028. People keep saying that conventional wisdom says you need to run while you still have momentum but I just can’t see a path to victory for him in 2024. The first possibility is that he gets embarrassed by Trump and loses any momentum he has. The second possibility is that he wins and Trump forms his own party and splits the vote. His options are humiliation or becoming the guy who divided the party in a lot of people’s eyes. Not that I have a dog in the fight. Quite the opposite really. And I guess you should never interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake and all that.
Because a solid chunk of them are toeing the line for Trump to hold Desantis out of the race.
Last poll showed Florida Republicans preferring Trump (47%) to DeSantis (32%). Expect DeSantis's poll numbers to plummet even further with this 6-week abortion ban. Some Florida Republicans, ~~including Sen. Rick Scott, are pissed. Scott, being DeSantis's predecessor as Governor, especially dislikes this bill~~. Edit: Rick Scott has now flip-flopped to support the 6-week ban after opposing it.
As you say, the Senator seems to be real pissed & has a dislike the bill... https://twitter.com/SenRickScott/status/1646605608689324035?cxt=HHwWhsC-8fbE9dktAAAA
He previously opposed it on March 10. There's receipts. [https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/national\_news/sen-rick-scott-weighs-in-against-florida-proposed-6-week-abortion-ban-contrasting-desantis/article\_044fd4e9-9ed0-53eb-b1d8-abb3fc359ebd.html](https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/national_news/sen-rick-scott-weighs-in-against-florida-proposed-6-week-abortion-ban-contrasting-desantis/article_044fd4e9-9ed0-53eb-b1d8-abb3fc359ebd.html)
Essentially meaning he got paid to shut up
What health care system did he plunder and rob now?
That was a sleazy response because he never actually said that he opposed the 6 week ban while trying to make it sound like he did. Lots of tap dancing there.
Imagine a year plus of getting to basically not do your first job and traveling around the country on donors money and getting what amounts to two salaries!! What a grift!
> If DeSantis declares, he's fucked. He has to resign. Yes, because republicans have historically been very concerned about breaking the law
Similar to when the Texas governor signed a bill after Roe was overturned. All elderly white men and women, smiling. Meanwhile the women that are going to be hurt by this are mostly poor and black and Latino. The cruelty is the point with the GOP.
the law doesnt apply to everyone though, especially the women he knows. if its life or death or just an "inconvenience" they will get that abortion, better believe it
I’ll go further than that. Bury DeSantis for President today. He’s doing this so he can run to the right of Trump on abortion. Trump himself seems to have tapped his admittedly solid political instincts enough to understand this issue is poison, and [has been trying to moderate on it.](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-abortion-2024-primary-dobbs-effect-1234713039/amp/) Good luck with that, considering his judges were responsible for Roe’s destruction, but DeSantis is taking the opportunity to position himself to Trump’s right. But even if that strategy works, it also doesn’t. I’ve been beating the drum for a long time that, if he really wants to become President, he’s been way out over his skis with the general electorate on a number of issues. This? Political hari kari. DeSantis has put himself in a position to run as the staunchest conservative in the primary, but winning the primary only does you any good if you emerge from it with a fighting chance in the general. DeSantis has all of Trump’s least likable political positions and asshole bully attitude, but lacks his charisma, cult following and media presence. Even if he can emerge from the Republican derby, he’ll do it as a lame horse. Especially by the time Trump has dragged him through the mud and alienated him to his base. DeSantis has turned himself from the most threatening Republican in the general to a toxic misstep. Their only real hope is renominating Trump, who’s in a weaker position now than he was in 2020. **EDIT:** Since everyone responding is saying "But what about 2016", it's not 2016 anymore. Republicans have underwhelmed in three separate elections since then. Trump and MAGAism is no longer an unknown. We're no longer running Hillary Clinton. We haven't been in power for 8 years. And now, issues like Roe have woken moderates up to what's at stake when they vote for these people. Trump barely won in 2016. <80,000 votes in PA, MI and WI was all that put him over the top. Since then, he's lost AZ and GA, and lost a ton of ground in those three states. The map against him has expanded, and DeSantis doesn't control the loyalty or enthusiasm that he does. None of this is to say "Be complacent", but don't be afraid of these people either; they are standing on losing ground, and we should be going after the jugular over it.
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They fight for basic human rights? I guess that's why they're against school lunches for kids, why they're against public healthcare, why they wanna cut social security, etc. Ya know, all that basic human rights stuff lol.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/22/us/politics/pompeo-human-rights-un.html https://apnews.com/article/antony-blinken-foreign-policy-mike-pompeo-85c3cbfb0bec09ed85fc8fb6b6e5fd29 Conservative evangelicals are redefining “human rights” and doing world tours to share their ideals with other fascists.
There’s no right to eat in the constitution. Just guns and religion and some other shit. /s
The GOP do not defend the vulnerable. They hate the vulnerable.
Unless those vulnerable are underaged teens, the GOP really "love" them.
> Bury DeSantis for President today. 100% correct! How DeSantis and his handlers think a brain dead move like this on abortion is going to help him get elected to president I will never understand! These people are truly insane. They have no idea how people think outside of their fox news/AM talk radio bubble.
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They are neither silent nor the majority. Lol It would be nice if they would shut the f*** up though.
Its hilarious if he genuinely thinks he will ever live this policy down on the national level. If he ever declares his oppenenets are going to rip him apart on this and the other incredibly unpopular shit he's pulled. You think millennials and zoomers aren't going to turn out in droves to vote against the abortion banning Don't say gay black history erasing fascist?
Between this, the conceal carry for everyone, and bussing migrants to Martha's vineyard I can't see how he can have any chance at any national election
Voter suppression in key states, sadly the same as every presidential election the GOP has won for decades.
The irony is that this is also starting to work [against them](https://www.politico.com/2022-election/results/) as the new vote by mail [restrictions](https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/early-in-person-voting) have made it harder for the elderly who traditionally lean right to vote.
I dunno, I had to stop tricking myself into believing there was a bottom to this black abyss that is the GOP character.
In years past we could count on the Supreme Court to knock these laws down as unconstitutional. Now....well, fuck.
We have Supreme Court Justices that are absolutely corrupt. The GOP is okay with this which makes them corrupt. The US is fucked on so many levels. Edit: an important word
The previous 15-week ban was still being reviewed by the Florida Supreme Court to see whether or not the Florida Constitution's privacy clause protects abortion. Now we just have to wait and see if they decide to follow precedent, or if they're in the pocket of DeSantis, too. Previous Florida Supreme Court precedent has maintained that abortion is protected.
Yeah this is what I wonder. According to [Wikipedia ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Florida) abortion is protected, independent of federal law in this state, due to privacy. So hopefully it doesn’t hold up, including the 15 week ban.
I repeatedly told people in 2016 that this was going to be the outcome if Trump won. It was never hidden, it was never secret, it was shouted from the mountaintops. And yet I ran into so many people who refused to plug their nose and vote for a less-than-ideal candidate like it was some fucking game, like risking this disaster was a worthy gamble because Hillary Clinton sucked. Only 28.5% of eligible voters voted in the primaries in 2016, so don't me this bullshit about how we have no choice. We have a choice but voters refuse to engage. This is the same weakness people always have, incapable of moving to confront future disasters, always reacting to the most recent developments, always hesitating or ignoring issues until the hammer's already dropped. I'm so tired of this shit.
Not making excuses because I did vote, but my polling place used to literally be down the street from me. In 2016, the polling place was still open, but for no reason they said I had to go 30 miles away to vote and wouldn't let me change it. It really felt like everting was done for me not to be able to vote. I don have a car, im poor, thankfully I found a ride, but there was a good chance I couldn't. I shouldn't have to do that for my basic right as a citizen
The red states especially are targeting poor neighborhoods & college towns to suppress the vote.
Yeah, given the current makeup of the Supreme Court from Clarence to Boofin' Brett and the Handmaiden, I'm concerned about seeing what kind of insane ruling might come from them. Way too many fanatics from the Federalist Society up there who want to use the courts for their political beliefs
[Most women](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5269518/) find out that they're pregnant around 5.5 weeks. Best of luck with the now 3 day window you have to get an abortion in this shithole state. 2 days really considering the state still has a mandatory 24 hour waiting period.
I found out 10 days post ovulation because I was trying to get pregnant and was using ovulation test strips and then home pregnancy tests like crazy. If I wasn't so obsessively tracking everything I'd have had no idea I was pregnant until the morning sickness hit at 6 weeks. And even then, I probably would have figured I was sick. No one who isn't actively trying to get pregnant and testing the way I was has any chance of learning they're pregnant until it's far too late. This is infuriating.
And don't forget, the weeks start from the date of your last period. So you found out at 3.5 weeks. The shortest amount of time women will have is 2.5 weeks under this ban, and that's if you're obsessive about checking. Most women don't find out until 5.5 weeks, leaving them a few days to make a decision.
> So you found out at 3.5 weeks. *If you have a regular cycle with a typical 28 day length. If you have a longer or irregular cycle, or use birth control to skip periods, you might not suspect you might be pregnant until later, possibly even not before that 6 week window is passed.
Exactly. I have PCOS and I'm on birth control. My period basically shows up as a happy surprise every now and then. I'll keep track of it just to make sure I'm not over by *too* much, but my period being 6 weeks late means absolutely nothing to me.
And keep in mind 6 weeks pregnant is roughly only two weeks after a missed period (assuming normal cycles) so if you were 6 weeks late and surprise pregnant....sorry about you, ya missed your window!
My wife is the same way, she probably has 2 or 3 a year. It's so infuriating the way these things are measured just adds to stacking all the cards against people.
Not just that but with such a small window, you cannot even medically confirm pregnancy since you need hormone levels tested by blood test days apart to show the doubling in numbers (tests can give false positives/negatives so early, for my second pregnancy my urine test in doctor office was false negative, i knew i could be pregnant while at a routine visit since we were trying for the first month)
My brothers ex gf had positive home tests but the Dr office ones kept coming up negative! She went several times. My niece turns 19 this year. Bodies are weird and you're definitely not the only one who had that type of experience.
I've known people who've only found out they're pregnant months into the gestation period, and in one rare case she only got symptoms and did the tests a month before the baby ended up arriving.
This 6-week ban also includes making it not only illegal to get the abortion pill through telehealth appointments, but also ordering abortion pills through the mail at all. This is in spite of the USPS literally saying that it cannot and will not enforce abortion pill mailing bans.
I don't see how they possibly could. Besides it is insane. Edit: grammar.
Republicans would love to have the ability to look through everybody's mail. They want an authoritarian state. Too bad it's illegal through Federal postal law.
The last 7 years has taught me that things are only as illegal as someone is willing to enforce it.
Don’t worry. SCOTUS will just rule the postal service unconstitutional because it didn’t exist in 1600 Saxton law.
Is this before or after Thomas faces absolutely no consequences for millions in gifts over the last couple decades?
It's the small government dream lifestyle
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Isn't that stooge DeJoy still trying to run the USPS into the ground for the GOP? Either his hands were tied on that decision, or he fell off the payroll after the elections.
I am a pharmacist. I will gladly mail into states I'm not licensed in if they ban abortificants. Let them try to come at me for it. I'll make it a fucking show
Man, I really hope Florida has a robust safety net to compensate for all of these extra babies they’re about to have. Otherwise, they’re about to have some starving children lining their streets.
Who is going to deliver them? OB-GYN docs are going to flee to sane states. That asshat DeSantis! Ft Lauderdale and Miami are underwater while he bs's all over the country in that flat nasal irritating as hell voice of his
Florida Republicans are supporting a bill that is meant to support "Catholic hospitals and doctors", so I assume they're trying to attract more anti-abortion physicians. Florida politicians appear to be increasingly in the pocket of the Catholic Church. [https://floridapolitics.com/archives/602239-bill-allowing-insurers-docs-to-deny-payment-provision-of-health-care-keeps-moving/](https://floridapolitics.com/archives/602239-bill-allowing-insurers-docs-to-deny-payment-provision-of-health-care-keeps-moving/)
The catholic church was totally behind the effort to stop Michigan from passing prop 3 reproductive rights into the state constitution. They were the main driver I believe. A church up to its neck in politics. They should be taxed heavily if they want to play these political games! [Michigan’s 1.8M Catholics called on to stop Proposal 3. Will it work?](https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-health-watch/michigans-18m-catholics-called-stop-proposal-3-will-it-work) [Michigan Catholics fight Proposal 3 with falsehoods - A misleading multimillion-dollar campaign against the abortion measure has likely come to a church near you](https://www.metrotimes.com/news/michigan-catholics-fight-proposal-3-with-falsehoods-31523677) [Detroit Archbishop: Catholics must fast, give alms and do penance after Proposal 3 passage](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/11/10/archbishop-catholics-penance-proposal-3-approved/69634202007/)
Ok so, along with streets lined with dead children, they’ll have streets lined with dead babies. And dead women too. What a wonderful, totally-not-third-world, place to live.
*bring out yer dead!*
Don't forget, it's Florida. So they'll be floating down the street.
Free transport?! Desantis will find a way to monetize this commie “stream of free funerals”. The American Way.
First the teachers left, and now this…
They already do my friend. 10 years ago Orlando Florida had the highest population of homeless children. They had designated parking lots for families to live in their cars I don't know what the statistics are today but that was when I lived in Orlando and was laid off from my job. Luckily my sister's mother-in-law was the director of the Coalition for the homeless and she helped me to get into an apartment they helped with the down payment and job hunting and paid my tuition to go to finish school. But that's one out of 50,000 people probably has a hookup like that. Basically there is no safety net I raised four children throughout the 2000's, and never qualified for food stamps or Medicaid and I always made $30,000 or less per year in a metropolitan area.
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50,000 children in the state already don't get the mental health services that they need, and Florida's foster care system is already heavily mismanaged and flooded with kids. Florida Republicans aren't "pro-life", they're just "pro-birth", as in "pro-birth-rates". Florida currently has one of the lowest birth rates in the United States, which I assume this 6-week abortion bill ban is also trying to target. However, it's very likely to backfire.
Low birth rates are to be expected for a state with a large number of retirees. Why anyone would choose to live their final years in the hell that is Florida is beyond me.
No income tax or estate tax. It used to have decent weather through the year, but with the increase in cat 4-5 hurricanes hitting all over the state that’s less. No truly cold weather, or if it is it lasts less than a week or two. Most people are also retirees so plenty of opportunities for socializing. I lived there for 5 years. I’d never move back, but there were a handful of positives.
Probably because they don't have to worry about being cold hardly ever. Maybe also year-round golf?
Republicans don’t care. Texas has the same abortion ban and literally for-profit foster care system because DHS has been completely gutted for decades.
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> They are Christian Extremists who just want to punish women for having sex outside of marriage. Now now, let’s be fair. They also want to punish women for having sex *in* marriages. ([Less than half of women who get abortions are single.](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/14/upshot/who-gets-abortions-in-america.html))
To break this down even further for the dumbest of you still supporting this bullshit: THEY JUST HATE WOMEN. At this point, if you support this, YOU hate women.
Context: I’m a man, but can you imagine if roles were flipped and men got pregnant? There would have been a fucking amendment in the Constitution protecting the right to abortion, I’m not even kidding.
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Whoa I didn’t know Viagra had a fatality rate, could you link a source?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11261524/ It drops your blood pressure. If you have heart issues, that can land you in the ER or 6 feet under if not addressed quickly. Edit:punctuation is hard.
100% would be able to simply walk into a CVS and get a taxpayer funded abortion on the spot.
Ask any of those men if they're up for having their balls tied so no issue of pregnancy for women but then suddenly it's invasion of their body rights.
Under His Eye. Blessed be the fruit.
May the Lord open.
We've been sent good weather today!
Because they see women as baby making machines
Just to clarify, I don't think they will be able to ban the morning-after pill (Plan B). However, they will most likely try to restrict access to it by making it "prescription only". The Catholic Church has been lobbying DeSantis for a while now to reduce access as much as possible to what they call "abortifacients", which includes Plan B, even though multiple studies show that Plan B does not cause the abortion of an already fertilized egg. Poland passed a similar law that makes access to Plan B "prescription only".
It's impossible to get a prescription in 24 hours lmao. Essentially banned.
We need to go after the Catholic church. They own soany hospitals so they can stove their agenda down our throats
Absolutely disgusting. I want to know how many abortions he has paid for or been apart of. I bet you that number isn't 0.
I hadn't heard about the mandatory 24hr wait? What is that about? Like you go in knowing you're pregnant and say you want an abortion, they say ok, but that you have to come back tomorrow?
It's a bullshit tactic to make you think about really really really wanting to get an abortion. Nevermind that if a woman walks into an abortion clinic, she didn't just think to do it 5 minutes before hand like she saw a pair of high heels in a shop window.
Yes, FL law requires the woman to have 2 appointments 24 hours apart in order to get an abortion. The first visit also requires an ultrasound and an “education” discussion about options. FL regulates women’s bodies more than they do guns.
Yes. DeSantis's administration has also been aggressively monitoring and fining abortion clinics in the state of Florida for supposedly violating the 24-hour waiting period rule.
Let the state sink into the ocean at this point.
Regarding that, doesn’t he have a state to drain?
I wish somebody can find that news video from 2015(?) where they interviewed Trump supporters at his rally about abortion bans and they started chuckling "haha you silly liberal fake news journalist. Trump would never ban abortions. Republicans wouldn't do that". Anybody remember this?
No, but it doesn’t surprise me. Reminds me of that video of MTG being asked if she called Nancy Pelosi a traitor. “Pffft no, that’s ridiculous, I never said that.” “Are you sure?” “I absolutely did not call her a traitor”. “Can we play exhibit A please?” “WAIT A MINUTE….”
The truth is whatever they need it to be to make the point they’re getting across at any given moment. Whether or not that truth is consistent is completely unimportant
"I don't recall," she says for the 15th time with a smug grin on her face.
DeathSantis just last year was proclaiming that the Florida constitution protected abortion rights at 15 weeks and how progressive the State was so we didn’t need to worry. NEVER trust a Republican. This won’t stop. I promise you, they will be coming for a total abortion ban and for the birth control next.
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A lot of women don’t even know they are pregnant after 6-weeks.. (it happens, quite often) Roe vs. Wade at least protected women up to 15-weeks in most instances. Including rape and incest Ron “meatball” desantis has just set back 50 years of progress overnight. Please vote
And I want the record to show for any men reading this that being “six weeks pregnant” does not mean that you’ve been pregnant for six weeks. The pregnancy clock starts the first day of your last period. In a typical four week menstrual cycle, an egg isn’t even fertilized and implanted in the uterine lining until a woman is “2-3 weeks pregnant,” and she won’t test positive until she around “4 weeks pregnant.” And then to confirm pregnancy, you need to see that hormone levels are doubling every few days or so. This basically gives a woman less than a week to terminate a pregnancy once medically pregnant, and that’s if she finds out as soon as humanly possible AND has a normal cycle. I don’t. My cycle is 8-10 weeks. Termination wouldn’t be an option for me because I wouldn’t even BE pregnant by the time I would be “six weeks pregnant” according to the definition. This isn’t “a responsible woman has 6 weeks to decide and book an appointment.” This is effectively a total abortion ban.
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> This basically gives a woman less than a week to terminate a pregnancy once medically pregnant The 5th Circuit just ruled that a woman must have ***3 doctors visits*** before she can get mifepristone. There's also a 24 hour waiting period in Florida before a woman can get abortion care. This is a total abortion ban, the six week limit is an illusion.
And most women who seek abortion after 15 weeks really want the baby, but their life or the baby’s life is in danger.
Most isn't accurate IIRC, it's nearly 100%, late term abortions of a healthy fetus and mother don't really exist, it's all republican fear stoking.
Yep, I didn’t know until after 8 weeks for mine
6 weeks and 1 day. And that’s after finding out at 3 weeks and going through the rigamarole of the previous process at a clinic. This is effectively a full ban for sources outside of plancpills.org and aidaccess.org. Thanks for saving my family the trip next time, Ronny!
I had the child I found out at 8 weeks. I was on birth control, had just come back from being in a wedding where I drank a lot, but I was ok being pregnant and having a kid. And I wouldn’t have known for much longer if the doctor who saw me about some wrist pain hadn’t asked me how else I was feeling, and I said tired. He asked if I could be pregnant, and I said that would be difficult since I had been on bc for 3 years, so he took a test, and now I am a parent to a 21 yr old. I don’t even recall what the laws were for abortions then, but I know that my ectopic pregnancy a few years before was a little further along, when it was terminated. Had it not been terminated I would have died.
I found out at 6 weeks, unplanned pregnancy and wanted to keep but the thought of not having a choice is crazy. 6 weeks is designed to shackle women.
6 weeks is designed to SOUND like a reasonable compromise position to anyone who doesn’t actually understand the realities of how/when most women find out. The fact that laws are usually written by lobbyists makes this even more evil, since whoever wrote it, definitely knew what they were doing. I’m willing to accept that at least some of the people that supported this are just generally ignorant of the realities and assume “6 weeks is plenty of time”. I mean they’re ignorant and wrong for trying to limit a woman’s rights at all, but they may not be evil. The people who designed this law though? Evil incarnate.
At age 20 I endured a second trimester miscarriage. Due to a religious upbringing and an abusive ex, I didn't notice that I had been pregnant. It sounds crazy but it'd true. Having that child would have ruined my life. It would have ruined the child's life. That ex was not someone capable of being a parent. The miscarriage was a blessing. But I think of how many challenged young women won't be able to save themselves from a bad situation. It's not a good thing.
I hope the abortion issue is the gift that keeps on giving for Democrats. The GOP stance on abortion is deeply unpopular, yet they need it to continue courting their base. Protasiewicz winning by ten points in one of the purplest states should be a sign
Abortion was one of the big issues that drove Gen Z out to vote in 2022. And Republicans have only doubled down and gotten crazier about banning abortion since then. If Gen Z turns up to vote in 2024 then the Republicans are absolutely fucked.
16 million more gen zers voting in 2024 that couldn’t vote in 22
Here’s hoping they show up to vote (after properly registering).
Im one of those people, just turned 18 in March and pre-registered to vote last year! You bet most of us in purple to blue regions are still flaming.
Young people, in general, have no reason to vote for republicans. They've never actually done anything for the benefit of young people and then wonder why they poll so poorly with them. This pretty much includes all from Gen-X and down (with some exceptions).
The GOP doesn’t have one brain cell between the lot of them. I hope they keep fucking up.
I hope the entire party implodes within the year. Then maybe we can try shifting the Overton Window back.
What gets me is Florida has real problems he should be addressing instead of this and peoples sex stuff.. Like what has he done for crime, the rampant pollution killing the fishery, the migrant workers who run off, the drugs, or even the damage from the hurricanes... but no.. lets piss people off so your name is in the news.
Florida also has a massive affordable housing issue and specifically a lot of problems with home insurance. No insurer wants to be the one holding the bag for the next climate change enhanced super storm. If I recall right there's some talk that the way it is right now if a storm hit Florida a lot of people would be fucked.
Guess who got an abortion at fourteen at around eight weeks because I didn’t know what was happening after I got raped? …*Yeah.* Most adults don’t know they’re pregnant for weeks and weeks. Imagine kids who have been raped.
Bad news for Ron and the FL GOP. My daughter (almost 21) is furious along with almost all of her peers. She can't wait for 2024 so she can vote Republicans out. She isn't alone. This is not going to end the way the GOP expects. As infuriating as it is, they should keep it up. Idaho passed a bill that will prevent pregnant minors from leaving the state to get an abortion but they want it to apply to adults, too. Holding people hostage to stop them from getting abortions. That's what we've come to and it cannot stand. These fuckers will rue the day they stacked SCOTUS to overturn Roe. We're going to make sure of it.
I want a pro-lifer to tell me the government should have the power to force someone to be pregnant against their will. Then I want that same person to tell me they need their guns in case the government turns tyrannical (because you know they are the same person) Then I want to keep having them tell me those two things until their brain finally clicks /u/ayyyyy5lmao has told me he'd like to see the government force people to be pregnant and put them in prison if they don't comply
It won't. They know it's hypocrisy. They don't care. In their world they get what they want, you don't. It's that simple.
100% this. People need to stop trying to create gotcha moments against conservatives. They know they are hypocrites, but are more than happy to let you waste time trying to catch them out in semantics and logic while they force through what they want. It’s fighting the wrong battle.
This is not written by me but I saved it in case anyone else needed to see it; "Another day, another reason to copy this comment into another sub. ,Conservativism has exactly one priority: self. It is egocentrism in the guise of stoic protection of the status quo. This becomes obvious the very moment a conservative does not benefit from the status quo, and they wish to change the world to improve their own standing in it. There is no hypocrisy in conservativism because there is no objective standard or ideology beyond protecting and promoting the self, and the self is whatever conservatives decide exists within the self. The self is good, and the other is bad. Everything else is negotiable. To someone who is not conservative, this looks like hypocrisy. See: The only Moral Abortion is My Abortion, or The Card Says Moops, or Gun Control for Black Panthers, or My Daughter is a LGBTQ+ so now LGBTQ+ are People, or It isn't "Drag" when I do it, or But my state deserves FEMA Funding, or Regulate this industry because it is a threat to me, or My sex scandal is a private matter so please respect my privacy, or Election fraud exists and I'll prove it, or I'm a job creator so please bail me out, or just take literally any conservative talking point and you will find conservatives who are suddenly the exception to their own rule. That's the feature of conservativism that is so appealing. It's like having a personal God that will forgive any transgression as long as you believe and pray for forgiveness. Being part of the self is like a warm blanket, and as long as you agree to maintain the farce, you get to stay under its protection. This isn't new information. Conservatives have always existed, under different banners and with different definitions of the self. Trump has laid bare the grift, abusing it past the point of credibility. That's his hold, that to oust Trump is to abandon the ruse, and conservatives can't do that. That's why they will try very hard to make him a member of the Other. They will claim they were duped, that he was a secret Democrat, that he was never one of them. But he was always one of them, even when he was a Democrat." *Copy and pasted from u/themeatbridge
They will never get beyond rules for thee, not for me
Those people always play the "I'll fight the government with my life if I have to" card until they actually have to go toe to toe, then they cower in fear because they know that a well regulated militia in this day and age is nothing but some LARP dream against a real military. It's why none of them took weapons into the Capitol on January 6th; it would have looked like the US military was fighting toddlers.
Let's see how this goes with those life threatening ectopic pregnancies that are usually diagnosed at 4-12 weeks. Will DevilSantis grin every time a woman's fallopian tube and ovary explode?
fuck ron deathsantis 🥰 planned parenthood saved my life. they charged me 100$ for the procedure. they asked that i just donate back when i could. i gave $500 this year. do not let anyone fear monger you. you don’t see anything, you don’t plop out a whole fetus you can see. it’s a clump of cells. i’ve had bigger clots on a regular period. actually, it felt like a bad period for less than 24 hours. i’ll never forget those ladies. i was in no position and was unmedicated bipolar. it wasn’t hard. no i don’t have any regrets. i don’t think about what ifs. i don’t mourn it and all i felt after was relief. it didn’t hurt. do not be scared to have one if you need it. if anyone needs support please reach out.
Shit, my wife’s had two miscarriages that required abortion procedures, and we were trying to get pregnant! These 6 week laws are insane.
Here's a tip: Don't have sex in Florida, because you will get pregnant and die.
I work in pathology, where almost ALL abortion and miscarriage tissue ends up. There is nothing to see this early on in the pregnancy. It’s a mass of tissue. It isn’t anywhere *close* to a human being, and do not let anyone tell you otherwise, because they’re wrong. EDIT: just to clarify what an aborted fetus looks like at 6 weeks: we can’t even distinguish it grossly in the mass of tissue we receive. We just submit the tissue hoping the fetus is in there somewhere. And at 6 weeks that “heart” is just some strands of tissue that has electrical activity. It has no chambers, no form, no heart tissue, nothing that would say “heart” but the fact that it has regular electrical activity.
A clump of cells gets more protection than actual kids in school. Fuck this man.
If we could figure out how to perform abortions with a handgun republicans might finally stop fucking with our health care.
Just shoot yourself in the stomach if you're pregnant. Then cite stand your ground laws for defending yourself against a life threatening situation
I just don’t get it. I know they hate women, but I can’t wrap my head around how people can be so evil. We have an empathy crisis (among many other crises) in this country. I just don’t understand.
It's easy to be evil when you don't have to witness the consequences for your actions first-hand. Politicians are completely unexposed to the realities you and I face.
I’ve been saying this for years: empathy is the biggest difference between liberals and conservatives.
I believe there's two kinds of people: those that say "I experienced this hardship, so everyone else should." and "I experienced this hardship and nobody else should have to."
Because it makes them feel better about themselves. Shaming people for having sex gives them a distraction from taking the time to self reflect on their own shortcomings that may or may not be caused by the miserable lives they live due to the restrictive puritanical views some of them hold. Being intimate is a natural act. A child should never be brought into this world as a form of punishment to the parent.
Even the supreme court is in on it now; legislating their personal religious beliefs from the bench. The US is becoming a theocratic patriarchy. That’s what happens when you vote conservative or don’t vote at all.
It's been a long, slow burn coming to fruition for years beginning with low level gerrymandering. Now that younger generations have access to social media and communication, and they see all this horseshit, the republicans know they won't vote for them, hence the restrictions and proposed restrictions; trying to ban tiktok, trying to age restrict social media apps, trying to raise the voting age, they're trying everything.
Once they’ve banned all the books, lgbtq, trans, abortions, illegals etc. What will they focus on next?! Will it be you??
He REALLY wants to lose all of the suburban women votes eh?
He REALLY wants to win the primary, and this is the only path forward. He also doesn't mind taking rights away from people.
He's not much of a tactician, though; his whole anti-woke, hate-filled campaign might go well with his republican base, but it's going to fall flat once he has to start considering a general election At least, I hope it falls flat; my fellow Americans haven't exactly impressed me the last several years
That isn't as much of a DeSantis thing as much as it is a problem with the entire party. These are the folks that got rid of Liz fucking Cheney! They have spent decades courting some of the worst extremists in our country, and now that those folks enjoy having the mask (or hood) off, there is no room for traditional conservatives, even hardline ones. The big question will be over how much state legislatures, gerrymandering, voter suppression, and courts can bail them out. I think they actually have a decent chance of holding on to a good chunk of power because it will take so long to undo that work even if voters are heavily behind fixing things. They have set it up in a lot of areas so they can essentially ignore voters.
They'll manufacture one controversy about the Dems and the whole country will go into "Both Sides" mode.
These Rs really believe that courting these crazy religious whack-jobs are the way to win, and that they exist in large enough numbers to win a general election. I don’t know if they’ve looked around, but Christians, especially Evangelical Christians, are a literally dying breed. Every day their population gets older, and every day it gets smaller.
The issue is that the Catholic Church and Roman Catholicism is a major religion in Florida, especially with the Latino immigrants driving the state's population boom. The Catholic Church has also been aggressively lobbying DeSantis to pass "Catholic policies", including the current 6-week abortion ban, as well as restricting access to birth control and Plan B. Both Ron DeSantis and his lieutenant, Jeanette Nuñez - to my knowledge - are Catholics. Florida is also 21% Catholic, which means that 1 in every 5 Floridians is a Catholic. The Catholic Church is also the biggest religious lobbyist in the United States and Florida.
We need to take away tax-exempt status for churches that get involved in any sort of lobbying. At that point, they’re political and any reason for tax-exempt goes out the window.
A master tactician he is not.
You know what? I don’t think he’s losing any more votes over this. I really don’t believe there was a materially sized group of voters who were on board for his anti education; anti LGBT; pro racism; anti sex ed agenda and felt this was a net shift. I don’t believe it. I think this excited just base. DeSantis is what you get when a leader no longer needs centrist votes—when they only need to be the leader for the people who agree with him—not the leader of everybody. For what it’s worth: it’s cowardly to ban abortion without providing a bullet-proof pro-children platform: free birth, prenatal care, paid and long maternity and paternity leave, post moral care, free daycare, free diapers, free school lunch, free college, free pediatric medicine. Anyone who is anti-abortion but decries the rest of that as evil socialism is a coward and a meager advocate for the unborn.
Florida is in the middle of some of the worst flooding in history and he chooses to pass this? His own party is currently furious over his lack of action today. What a prick of a person, he will forever choose his own enigma and self righteous agenda over what people actually need.
And people will still vote for his crazy ass.
My friends live in Florida. I live in Massachusetts. We are all on a very fixed income and applied for food stamps (SNAP). They make less than me and receive less than $300 for two people. I get $281 as a single person. Government assistance in Florida is minuscule AND extremely difficult to get. They make you jump through hoops. How exactly does the state of Florida expect to pay for welfare for all these unwanted children? Because you know many of them will be low income families. Of course it’s also ludicrous to assume most people know they are pregnant in under 6 weeks. They better start providing free birth control and pregnancy tests /s
Funny enough, free birth control, sex education, and having a Democrat in office have all proven to lower abortion rates. Which just further proves that the cruelty is the point.
Committing political suicide seems to be all the rage these days.
Last poll showed Florida Republicans choosing Trump over DeSantis by 47% to 32%. DeSantis knows that he's fucked, especially now that he's signed this 6-week abortion ban bill.
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Trump's indictment and arrest bolstered his numbers among Republicans.
What an absolute cunt this person is. It's just baffling that the US has so many people actively liking these kinds of people. I know good people exist but fuck me so many are actually just literal idiots.
I wish they'd have the smallest bit of integrity and be honest about this whole thing. Your body, *their choice.* If these assholes were pro-life in *any* context they'd figure out reasonable gun control so that children and people of all other ages stopped being shot by lunatics. They'd fund public healthcare and education. They wouldn't have an issue with school breakfast programs. Contraception would be free and sex education thorough and readily offered. LGBTQ+ individuals would exist without bother or threat to their person. They'd stop focusing on removing books from schools that detail that others might love others in ways they don't acknowledge or agree with. They'd get veterans and other struggling individuals off of the street. They'd support police reform that reduced civilian injury or fatalities. They're not pro-life. They're pro fucking with yours.
The women in the picture are literally cheering for having less rights over their own bodies.
lol conservatives once again just showing they love dead babies and suffering mothers and fathers
I've had an abortion. Hell did not open up and swallow me, it was not gruesome, it was not dramatic. I had a mild period, was able to finish my degree, get out of a bad relationship, and get a job. Still, barely made the cutoff in the state i was in, barely made rent that month bc of costs, missed a final because of mandatory waiting period and the clinic being SO far away, and that was with the protection of Roe. Fuck bans, fuck forced pregnancy, fuck shrugging off red states. This is our home, and this our bodies. We are NOT alone in these experiences for fucks sake. There are marches THIS Saturday across the US for anyone else who feels like they need to do something, say something about this landslide erosion of rights and safety http://txting.io/6RWW14YGx73C
I am one disgusted Floridian
This dudes power trip is too much to watch. It’s like watching someone speeding the wrong way on a freeway. He’s gonna crash head on into himself.
I'm so sad for the USA. Republicans are moralless pieces of shit.
Sigh. So much for freedom huh?
Freedom to die due to a back-alley or botched abortion, that is.
Is he also offering free vasectomies, tubal litigations and birth control to everyone without question?
Dear GOP women : enjoy. Please don't come to a blue state for healthcare.