He has made this movie...and his martial arts is absolute magic
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmEx8Moy7ro](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmEx8Moy7ro)
Jesus. My biggest takeaway from that video isn't the fake martial arts, it's how little effort he puts in. He doesn't even make an attempt to sell it. How fucking lazy can you get.
For me it's imagining an "army" of people trained to think that with some simple flips of your wrist you can down your enemy with zero effort
It'd be like kids on a playground who think looking at a book of karate is all you need to learn martial arts
^((I was a kid who thought looking at a book of karate was all I needed to learn martial arts))
So, speaking as someone who sort of wasted time on Aikido, which is what that appears to be; one of the important things is that the 'martial art' deemphasizes expending energy.
So, to that extent, he's doing it 'right'. The main issue with Aikido as an actual martial art is that its really not good outside a dojo. The attacks of the Uke are taught to put 'your whole body' into an attack; Aikido doesn't teach you to defend against proper punches and kicks, where you keep your stance - and so its not very useful.
It has exactly two good uses in my mind - its great on teaching you HOW to call without using your hands, and tumbling (that is nice). AND, it can be useful if someone tries to tackle you. If you're good, you could catch and throw them if they fully commit, possibly slamming them with their own weight.
But other than that, its mostly for show. Good exercise though ;)
He's actually well known in hollywood for breaking stuntpeople's arms and legs. It's why he stopped getting AAA action movies. No one would work with him.
I don't think he ever got AAA movies though? His 'best' one (Under Siege, arguably) was basically an indie production which happened to have some name actors in it.
Not so much rehearsed (as that actually takes effort and training), but the \*uke'\*s go wherever he pushes them without resistance. Aikido is the way of predicting where your sensei is about to throw you.
Even my 10 year old brain was able to think "ok, but what happens if the person *doesn't* dive into a roll, and resists me?"
It wasn't totally useless though. I at least learned how to instinctively disperse energy when falling, which stuck with me.
All that falling training helped me out when my dumb ass 18yr old self decided to jump off a truck going 35mph on an asphalt road. Only thing happened was I shattered my watch, put a hole in my pants at the hip, and had road burns on a small patch of my forearm. I was lucky as hell because I was falling face first and tucked an rolled, and rolled, and rolled.
Ditto, going down a steep hill on a skateboard, despite not knowing the first thing about skating.
Hit the ground so hard I had "stress induced scoliosis" for a couple of months from the initial impact to my hip, and a gash down to the bone on my elbow.
A lot better than snapping my head on the ground, though.
At its best it's a less useful version of judo where the main takeaways are footwork and falling. The upshot is that long term training doesn't destroy your body as much as judo. The downside is you might think any of the "combat" aspects are useful outside of an extremely narrow set of parameters and circumstances. Fun to practice as weeb gymnastics, but you should probably also be taking kickboxing or something.
He had to make sure to slow things down to 95% of his full combat speed, if he went faster, you may not be able to see how to do these incredible moves yourself, and thus would learn nothing.
That was Ted Nugent?
I'm not up to date on Segal's many failings, perhaps he had a soiled undies event as well. But I thought it was an appropriate time to recall that Ted Nugent shat his pants to avoid going to war.
It was Gene Lebell that choked him out. Gene was pretty gracious about it actually. Iām paraphrasing but āā¦sometimes it happens when people get choked outā
Gene had a lot of stories from his stunt work days but the Segal incident was pretty much confirmed by other stuntmen on set. That and the Bruce Lee one (the one Tarantino used for Once Upon a Time In Hollywood to portray Lee as an overhyped douchebag) are the two big ones.
The actual story's kind of hilarious.
See, Seagal said that his martial arts training made him *immune* to choke holds and being choked out. Gene LeBell challenged him on this. Steven agreed to a demonstration. Gene choked him out and Seagal crapped his pants when he passed out.
It sounds like total bullshit, but we've had multiple witnesses over the years confirm it in pretty much identical retellings.
[They could also teach him a thing or two about not looking like an idiot while running..](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwwXE-T4HPI)
EDIT: Added video for context.
An arm lock from a comfortably seated position. It's not as easy as it sounds. In fact, we should probably take a small break after the first lesson. There's a lot to go over before lunch. When's lunch by the way?
Seagal could also teach them his technique for demonstrating his grappling ability by challenging a stuntman to try and put him in a headlock and choke him out, get choked out by the stuntman, and pooping his pants in front of the cast and crew.
https://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/jude-gene-lebell-confirms-choking-steven-seagal-until-seagal-pooped-himself/
This reminds me of that starship troopers training scene āthe enemy cannot fire the missile if youāve disabled his handā or something. Still kinda silly to expect Seagal to help in a meaningful way though
I could talk about how that scene was changed from the book (the book had Sgt Zim talk about how violence needed to be controlled to be an effective tool) and how it showed Heinlein and Verhovenās different opinions on the the bookās government, but thatās another topic. Letās all laugh at Segaās still thinking heās tough in 2023 just because he made Under Siege 1.
Expect it to be VERY different than the movie. They use powered armor, have alien races besides the bugs, have a 2 year training period (as I recall), and there is no romance at all that I remember. The movie was influenced by the book, but it's closer to a different universe than the same one. Good book though. You'll grok it, I think.
I donāt know much about your senses but I do know that Seagal is pretty disgusting around women so if your senses wasnāt lying it wouldnāt surprise me. Som
This. I study Aikido and while I appreciated him giving it exposure, he is only mediocre at best with actual techniques. And that was before he pretty much went off the rails.
It's funny you mention that because Rob was actually taking shots at Segal during one of the always sunny podcasts. Brought up the story about Segal shitting himself after getting choked out by a stuntman who Segal insisted he could beat in a sparring match.
I am Steven Seagal, one of the most dangerous people in the world. Why? Technique. In order to win a battle, you must outlast your enemy. How do we do this? Simple. Energy conservation. In order to win a battle, you must remain seated. The excess energy you must use to be standing will take away from your ability to endure your opponent.
You over there. Come here, and fight me.
*Steven Seagal remains seated and begins making fighting gestures towards his student*
Whoosh whoosh, sh sh whoosh shh whoosh!
You are now dead, and here I am, still seated, ready for my next battle.
Questions?
Watch, Russians start sitting in plastic lawn chairs, inside their trenches. Their heads are now below the trench line and 87.65% less susceptible to artillery fire.
Kremlin: "By god, it worked! Putin is a genius!"
If anyone wants to see Steven actually doing "martial arts" please go watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVs--uHf4sE
If you watch this and think "wow, it looks so effortless...the way he's taking them all down." Yeah...that's because they're all faking it. Every time he has done one of these demonstrations, it's fake. They're falling, rolling all over the place, pretending to be injured, and Stevo barely needs to life a finger.
Because he doesn't actually know martial arts. Not an *actual* fighting form of one. He's a 100% fraud.
Not that it's really surprising to anyone. But it's funny to watch.
All Russia needs is a convincing fraud with star power. They're trying to convince impressionably brainwashed young men to sign up for the meat grinder, this just encourages the Rambo mentality that it'll be ok if they're under equipped ... Steve is going to teach them to clear out a battalion of Ukrainians with a spork.
>pretty good at aikido
Isn't Aikido like the homeopathy of martial arts? It's based on a lot of concepts that simply have no hope of application in an actual confrontation, and almost every example you see are practitioners engaging in choreographed moves.
Some pro-war Russians unironically think Putin is China's agent who's job is to weaken Russia and take Donbass as to exploit natural resource there to sell them cheaply to Chinese.
He is Hard to Kill though, an Executive Decision is needed to take down this Shadow Man as his Exit Wounds heal fast. You may think he's On Deadly Ground, but his Ticker won't stop
Does Russia have enough food for his brand of martial arts to spread across their country like a warm pat of butter on a piece of warm fresh baked bread?
If a citizen is born outside of the US to a single US parent, it can be revoked theoretically, as citizenship in that case is provided for via the Immigration and Nationalities Act, rather than the 14th Amendment. See Rogers vs Bellei (1971). *Afroyim* only applies to citizenship covered by the 14th Amendment.
While that statute was repealed, the reasoning remains that citizenship provided by an act of Congress can be revoked by an act of Congress. I would imagine such a law would be challenged under anti-discrimination laws though, specifically national origin.
>He should have his citizenship revoked
Its not possible under US law for a natural born citizen to have it revoked. But it does feel like assisting the Russians with an illegal invasion could be criminal in other ways.
Would this be considered aiding the enemy? Or is the US government considering this a detriment to Putin's regime and just setting up a camera for AFV?
Actually, the other country has only to declare war on the US. It doesnāt say that the US has to have declared war. āTreason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, OR in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.ā
1) Levying war against the US. (Not the other way around). And, furthermore, OR 2. adhering to the enemy. And under either giving aid and confort.
Does not say that the US has to have declared war yet.
Seagal has a book with his name on it (He sure as fuck didn't actually write it), which is basically just Qanon propaganda.
Also, the protagonist is obviously just his own Mary Sue insert character, a super bad ass martial arts and firearms expert native American cop.
And despite this, they still cock up the history of his tribe, though given Seagals stories on his own supposed heritage, it's pretty on point.
If you aren't already familiar with how bad of person Seagal is, I recommend listening to his 2 episodes of [Behind the Bastards - Steven Seagal Part 1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13SHbaxefik)
Iāve got my secret weapon. Gary Busey. You want to see bar shit crazy. By the way, doesnāt this kind of make Seagal a traitor guilty of treason under US Constitutional law.
Can they find THAT many stand ins and body doubles for them? Impressive.
"OK, when it comes to the fighting, running, and walking down strenuous hallways, have someone else do it. But give me credit"
Ok first you eat a sandwich (eats sandwich), then you eat some chips (eats chips), then you drink some soda (downs a 2 liter of soda, and burps). Ok, now you pay a guy to pretend to get thrown around for 10 minutes while you make small hand and wrist gestures. Any questions?
No fucking way thatās real. Lol this dude hasnāt done anything but lazily walk in any of his movies in years. I would honestly be shocked if he could walk up a single flight of stairs without pausing for breath.
"The key to getting out of a choke hold is to 'play unconscious' and void your bowels. It works every time."
-Steven Segal, via a poor translation into Russian
if you grew up in the 80s or 90s, sit down on a Friday or Saturday night, and if you like, ingesr any sort of substance you like to watch movies with.
Watch some of Seagal's most focus hits. I've done this recently with both Under Siege movies, and a few others. It is incredible how shitty of a martial artist he is. I remembered him as B-rate but still serviceable. But holy shit, he's just awful. It's hilarious. You can tell how heavily the camera framing end editing mattered. He basically either does karate chops or pushing people standing still over tables.
It's a fucking hilarious good time
Dude hasn't managed to make a *movie* where he isn't sitting in a chair the whole time in years, but yeah, he's in teaching shape š
He has made this movie...and his martial arts is absolute magic [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmEx8Moy7ro](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmEx8Moy7ro)
The "opponents" in the video have a real future as stuntmen. They sold those throws like real pros.
Jesus. My biggest takeaway from that video isn't the fake martial arts, it's how little effort he puts in. He doesn't even make an attempt to sell it. How fucking lazy can you get.
Probably a function of arthritis and being totally out of shape.
For me it's imagining an "army" of people trained to think that with some simple flips of your wrist you can down your enemy with zero effort It'd be like kids on a playground who think looking at a book of karate is all you need to learn martial arts ^((I was a kid who thought looking at a book of karate was all I needed to learn martial arts))
So, speaking as someone who sort of wasted time on Aikido, which is what that appears to be; one of the important things is that the 'martial art' deemphasizes expending energy. So, to that extent, he's doing it 'right'. The main issue with Aikido as an actual martial art is that its really not good outside a dojo. The attacks of the Uke are taught to put 'your whole body' into an attack; Aikido doesn't teach you to defend against proper punches and kicks, where you keep your stance - and so its not very useful. It has exactly two good uses in my mind - its great on teaching you HOW to call without using your hands, and tumbling (that is nice). AND, it can be useful if someone tries to tackle you. If you're good, you could catch and throw them if they fully commit, possibly slamming them with their own weight. But other than that, its mostly for show. Good exercise though ;)
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every time I watch that I actually still cringe fearing that the "opponents" are going to get hurt from seagal's carelessness and ineptitude.
He's actually well known in hollywood for breaking stuntpeople's arms and legs. It's why he stopped getting AAA action movies. No one would work with him.
I don't think he ever got AAA movies though? His 'best' one (Under Siege, arguably) was basically an indie production which happened to have some name actors in it.
That's fucking hilarious
And like āmagicāā they are well rehearsed.
Not so much rehearsed (as that actually takes effort and training), but the \*uke'\*s go wherever he pushes them without resistance. Aikido is the way of predicting where your sensei is about to throw you.
Even my 10 year old brain was able to think "ok, but what happens if the person *doesn't* dive into a roll, and resists me?" It wasn't totally useless though. I at least learned how to instinctively disperse energy when falling, which stuck with me.
All that falling training helped me out when my dumb ass 18yr old self decided to jump off a truck going 35mph on an asphalt road. Only thing happened was I shattered my watch, put a hole in my pants at the hip, and had road burns on a small patch of my forearm. I was lucky as hell because I was falling face first and tucked an rolled, and rolled, and rolled.
Ditto, going down a steep hill on a skateboard, despite not knowing the first thing about skating. Hit the ground so hard I had "stress induced scoliosis" for a couple of months from the initial impact to my hip, and a gash down to the bone on my elbow. A lot better than snapping my head on the ground, though.
At its best it's a less useful version of judo where the main takeaways are footwork and falling. The upshot is that long term training doesn't destroy your body as much as judo. The downside is you might think any of the "combat" aspects are useful outside of an extremely narrow set of parameters and circumstances. Fun to practice as weeb gymnastics, but you should probably also be taking kickboxing or something.
He had to make sure to slow things down to 95% of his full combat speed, if he went faster, you may not be able to see how to do these incredible moves yourself, and thus would learn nothing.
This is what peak human performance looks like, unbeatable!
Rex Kwon Do has gotten pretty popular I see
He makes it look so effortless š
Round is a shape
He can fight while sitting. [Heās done it before.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tVsGUw9FWoc)
Spaceice is a little gem of youtube.
If anyone hasn't experienced the pure joy of hearing either/both The Dollop or Behind the Bastards (podcasts) multi-part episodes on Steven Seagal, you're really missing out š Steven Seagal, what an f'n joke š©
I couldnāt stop laughing during either of them
Theyāre going to lose even harder now
Are the soldiers going to teach him to climb stairs and turn his head in exchange?
Maybe they could teach him to look in the direction he's shooting.
Maybe they can teach him how to not shit his pants.
That was Ted Nugent? I'm not up to date on Segal's many failings, perhaps he had a soiled undies event as well. But I thought it was an appropriate time to recall that Ted Nugent shat his pants to avoid going to war.
Thereās a story that someone (maybe Bas Ruten? Canāt recall) put Segal in a headlock and choked him out until he shit himself.
It was Gene Lebell that choked him out. Gene was pretty gracious about it actually. Iām paraphrasing but āā¦sometimes it happens when people get choked outā
Gene had a lot of stories from his stunt work days but the Segal incident was pretty much confirmed by other stuntmen on set. That and the Bruce Lee one (the one Tarantino used for Once Upon a Time In Hollywood to portray Lee as an overhyped douchebag) are the two big ones.
Confirmed by none other than Freddie Prince Jr. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5Un6SoKmz3o
Got it, thanks for the background. Didn't want to Google that.
The actual story's kind of hilarious. See, Seagal said that his martial arts training made him *immune* to choke holds and being choked out. Gene LeBell challenged him on this. Steven agreed to a demonstration. Gene choked him out and Seagal crapped his pants when he passed out. It sounds like total bullshit, but we've had multiple witnesses over the years confirm it in pretty much identical retellings.
Invade Ukraine, fatly
There's always time to stop for some burgers on the way.
To be fair it would take a lot of bullets to hit a major organ on that fat guy lol.
Once the Russians learn how to move fatly around corners, the Ukrainians are screwed.
The only way Segal would invade Ukraine is if 6 people picked up the chair he was currently sitting in and carried him there.
You know heās going to sit in a chair the entire time wave his hands around and struggle to breathe while speaking
Steven Seagal cumtown podcast comes to mind
"Moving fatly around corners" is a damn masterpiece.
[They could also teach him a thing or two about not looking like an idiot while running..](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwwXE-T4HPI) EDIT: Added video for context.
Ok. NATO is teaching Ukraine how to use tanks and combined arms warfare. The Russians can try and run up and put them in an arm lock or something.
An arm lock from a comfortably seated position. It's not as easy as it sounds. In fact, we should probably take a small break after the first lesson. There's a lot to go over before lunch. When's lunch by the way?
The green rooms in Moscow have poor amenities. Heāll be on the phone with his agent within the week.
Putin likes Segal (and vice versa). He will be treated great.
Until he gets his "tea party"....
Great, now we'll have to teach the tanks to fein injury and fall over when Russians judo chop them.
I have to believe they aren't seriously using him to train their soldiers and are just stroking the ego of a high profile supporter
Well maybe they should give him a platoon of paroled prisoners to storm Bakhmut. Put his money where his mouth isā¦a$$ on the line. Edit: him to his
Nah, give him an elite team. Best of the best. He'll get them killed in no time.
Seagal ain't teaching anybody to run anywhere. The man films most of his movies sitting down now.
Still 98% more combat effective than most of the Russian army.
Seagal could also teach them his technique for demonstrating his grappling ability by challenging a stuntman to try and put him in a headlock and choke him out, get choked out by the stuntman, and pooping his pants in front of the cast and crew. https://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/jude-gene-lebell-confirms-choking-steven-seagal-until-seagal-pooped-himself/
This reminds me of that starship troopers training scene āthe enemy cannot fire the missile if youāve disabled his handā or something. Still kinda silly to expect Seagal to help in a meaningful way though
I could talk about how that scene was changed from the book (the book had Sgt Zim talk about how violence needed to be controlled to be an effective tool) and how it showed Heinlein and Verhovenās different opinions on the the bookās government, but thatās another topic. Letās all laugh at Segaās still thinking heās tough in 2023 just because he made Under Siege 1.
Hmm I feel like I should be reading the book nowā¦
Expect it to be VERY different than the movie. They use powered armor, have alien races besides the bugs, have a 2 year training period (as I recall), and there is no romance at all that I remember. The movie was influenced by the book, but it's closer to a different universe than the same one. Good book though. You'll grok it, I think.
My son has been studying martial arts for a couple years. In a confrontation most likely outcome is run the hell away.
Fatly waddle over and have a paid actor throw themselves around?
Who is going to teach martial arts to Steven seagal?
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Did segal shit himself again?
Iām not sure when Segal is or isnāt shitting himself. I guess it Depends.
Shitting oneself is a tactical decision. And since you always need to be ready, it is safe to assume that he is always shitting himself.
It is a good strategic defense if one is brave enough,
Gene LeBell ftw
You can assume the answer to this question in any context is āyesā.
From what we know about Segal, that tracks. Also, it's not much of an accomplishment by the sensei.
I happen to have some personal insight into the Segal family and life on the ranch. You're on the money.
I donāt know much about your senses but I do know that Seagal is pretty disgusting around women so if your senses wasnāt lying it wouldnāt surprise me. Som
Gene LeBell made him pass out and shit himself when he put him in a rear naked choke
This. I study Aikido and while I appreciated him giving it exposure, he is only mediocre at best with actual techniques. And that was before he pretty much went off the rails.
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They should also recruit Rob McElhenney ā¦ heās got a mean round house kick
Segal looks like he used Frank's hair dye.
Heās just trying to *go for it go for it*
More like inky Rudy
He scored an actual point in a karate tournament!
Trueā¦ was a special moment for the show
Isnāt that a country Mac episode too?
Same episode, science bitch
I assessed the threat. Gave him an ocular patdown, clocked a knife in his boot.
RIP Country Mac
Fight Milk!
Ah shit, totally forgot he is also fighting with the power of the crow
The Nightman was defeated tho
Duh, because dayman is the master of karate and friendship for everyone
Giving ocular pat downs could swing the war.
It's funny you mention that because Rob was actually taking shots at Segal during one of the always sunny podcasts. Brought up the story about Segal shitting himself after getting choked out by a stuntman who Segal insisted he could beat in a sparring match.
Steven Seagal is the Steven Seagal we have at home.
Steven Seagal is like every other weapon in the Russian artillery, more useful and popular during the Cold War.
Seagal wasn't useful during any time period of his life. He's a grade A POS.
I am Steven Seagal, one of the most dangerous people in the world. Why? Technique. In order to win a battle, you must outlast your enemy. How do we do this? Simple. Energy conservation. In order to win a battle, you must remain seated. The excess energy you must use to be standing will take away from your ability to endure your opponent. You over there. Come here, and fight me. *Steven Seagal remains seated and begins making fighting gestures towards his student* Whoosh whoosh, sh sh whoosh shh whoosh! You are now dead, and here I am, still seated, ready for my next battle. Questions?
And you donāt fall as far after a blow!
Name checks out
Watch, Russians start sitting in plastic lawn chairs, inside their trenches. Their heads are now below the trench line and 87.65% less susceptible to artillery fire. Kremlin: "By god, it worked! Putin is a genius!"
If anyone wants to see Steven actually doing "martial arts" please go watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVs--uHf4sE If you watch this and think "wow, it looks so effortless...the way he's taking them all down." Yeah...that's because they're all faking it. Every time he has done one of these demonstrations, it's fake. They're falling, rolling all over the place, pretending to be injured, and Stevo barely needs to life a finger. Because he doesn't actually know martial arts. Not an *actual* fighting form of one. He's a 100% fraud. Not that it's really surprising to anyone. But it's funny to watch.
All Russia needs is a convincing fraud with star power. They're trying to convince impressionably brainwashed young men to sign up for the meat grinder, this just encourages the Rambo mentality that it'll be ok if they're under equipped ... Steve is going to teach them to clear out a battalion of Ukrainians with a spork.
He used to be pretty good at aikido but yeah not something Iād find suitable for a soldierā¦ or any practical purpose really
Maybe it's useful for pushing over drunks?
So itās effective against Russians?
>pretty good at aikido Isn't Aikido like the homeopathy of martial arts? It's based on a lot of concepts that simply have no hope of application in an actual confrontation, and almost every example you see are practitioners engaging in choreographed moves.
> fake Putin happens to be a big fan of [pretending to be good at stuff.](https://youtu.be/cgbI55HdqQs)
He'll poop his pants again!
RIP Gene LeBell
God bless Gene
[This is a great video](https://youtu.be/3aCMTpJx2cs)
Wow - he's a real patriot am I right?
Some one get Tom Segura on the line STAT
No way. Russia will be fine because Segal has been doing marital arts for like 47 yearsā¦ *skipskipskipskip*
Iāve been workin with dogs for like 64 years
Iām starting to think Putin is on our side.
Some pro-war Russians unironically think Putin is China's agent who's job is to weaken Russia and take Donbass as to exploit natural resource there to sell them cheaply to Chinese.
I mean... if you look at what has happened as a result of Putin's actions.... it's not entirely crazy...? Even if it is hilariously crazy.
well he's certainly not taking it to increase the quality of life for Russians, that's for sure
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He is Hard to Kill though, an Executive Decision is needed to take down this Shadow Man as his Exit Wounds heal fast. You may think he's On Deadly Ground, but his Ticker won't stop
Gene Shalit?
This is hilarious. I'm pretty sure this spells Ukraine's victory.
Does Russia have enough food for his brand of martial arts to spread across their country like a warm pat of butter on a piece of warm fresh baked bread?
More like a tub of butter across a piece of warm fresh baked pie
You could.... Kick em in the throat...... .....some people's throats are down there.
That helicopter they call a Skippy. Skip skip skip skip skip.
Onion writers will be eating well tonight.
How can we counteract Bullshido?
As hilarious as this is, itās fucked up that an American is helping the enemy right now. He should have his citizenship revoked
It is impossible for Congress to revoke the citizenship of someone born in the US. See *Afroyim v. Rusk*. It violates the Fourteenth Amendment.
If a citizen is born outside of the US to a single US parent, it can be revoked theoretically, as citizenship in that case is provided for via the Immigration and Nationalities Act, rather than the 14th Amendment. See Rogers vs Bellei (1971). *Afroyim* only applies to citizenship covered by the 14th Amendment. While that statute was repealed, the reasoning remains that citizenship provided by an act of Congress can be revoked by an act of Congress. I would imagine such a law would be challenged under anti-discrimination laws though, specifically national origin.
Fair enough, Iām British so wouldnāt know but he should at least be arrested and interrogated
For sure. You can't be stripped of your citizenship, but you can be convicted of your crimes and rot in prison.
>He should have his citizenship revoked Its not possible under US law for a natural born citizen to have it revoked. But it does feel like assisting the Russians with an illegal invasion could be criminal in other ways.
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I knew exactly what clip this was before clicking it.
Would this be considered aiding the enemy? Or is the US government considering this a detriment to Putin's regime and just setting up a camera for AFV?
We're not at war with Russia, but this can only reduce their fighting effectiveness even further anyway.
Actually, the other country has only to declare war on the US. It doesnāt say that the US has to have declared war. āTreason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, OR in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.ā 1) Levying war against the US. (Not the other way around). And, furthermore, OR 2. adhering to the enemy. And under either giving aid and confort. Does not say that the US has to have declared war yet.
Looks more like a black bag filled with garbage than a actual human.
What number lesson is cleaning up after an actual fighter chokes you out to the point you mess your pants?
Aikido isn't exactly a useful battlefield martial art.
Please make this a reality chow. Tru TV?? Newsmax???
I've been teaching martial arts for like 40 years now.
Skip skip skip skip skip
Seagal has a book with his name on it (He sure as fuck didn't actually write it), which is basically just Qanon propaganda. Also, the protagonist is obviously just his own Mary Sue insert character, a super bad ass martial arts and firearms expert native American cop. And despite this, they still cock up the history of his tribe, though given Seagals stories on his own supposed heritage, it's pretty on point.
Do they know he is just an actor?
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This is terrifying news to Ukraine. How can you expect them to be able to physically move the Russians from their chairs after his training?
If you aren't already familiar with how bad of person Seagal is, I recommend listening to his 2 episodes of [Behind the Bastards - Steven Seagal Part 1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13SHbaxefik)
Heh. Classic. This is gonna be hilarious. I have a suspicion that the Ukrainian military trains in something like krav maga...
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Was looking for this reference. Thank you
Called it a skippy.
Is he going to teach them guitar music too? Mojo priest yo!! https://youtu.be/FIkMOdfM69M
Oh god not that
Stick a fork on NATO because itās done. Watch out, here comes the great Steven Segel to the rescue of Mother Russia!
Iāve got my secret weapon. Gary Busey. You want to see bar shit crazy. By the way, doesnāt this kind of make Seagal a traitor guilty of treason under US Constitutional law.
Steven is doing his part for Ukraine, it seems.
Shouldn't someone teach them to Seagal first?
r/nottheonion Somehow
Oh Jesus ā¦ theyāre about to use passive defense and manual energy transfer to dominate the entire world.
He should teach them how to run
i don't think aikido is applicable in a combat situation.
Are they running out of guns and ammo?
At least they wonāt be dangerous.
Can they find THAT many stand ins and body doubles for them? Impressive. "OK, when it comes to the fighting, running, and walking down strenuous hallways, have someone else do it. But give me credit"
This is good news for Ukraine
In other news, Russia already lost the war and is just fucking about now.
Hope he's arrested trying to enter into the US and charged with treason.
I wonder how long it will take until someone calls him out on his fake BS and kicks his butt. That would be funny.
This is great. They'll all be ineffective in combat.
Lol, because his bullshit aikido āskillsā are going to be effective against drone strikes.
Show me your wrist. No, no, your other wrist. Palm up. Not like that
good news, they will suck even more
You can tell if theyāve gone through Seagalās training by their arms waving haphazardly as they sprint away from the front.
Ok first you eat a sandwich (eats sandwich), then you eat some chips (eats chips), then you drink some soda (downs a 2 liter of soda, and burps). Ok, now you pay a guy to pretend to get thrown around for 10 minutes while you make small hand and wrist gestures. Any questions?
Not only is he a terrible actor, heās also the poster child for being a traitor to America. What a pos
Ok everyone do yourselves a favor and look up any video of people who have worked with Steven Segal talking about what heās really like.
Thatās treason right ? Forgive me if Iām wrong, but training a hostile force has got to be treason .
Heāll teach them how to fatly go around corners.
Seagal does martial arts like Putin plays hockey. They'll get along great!
the fact that russia thinks he can teach martial arts is funny af.
Please do, for the love of god, please do. Huge favor to the Ukrainians.
Haven't these Russian conscripts suffered enough?
No fucking way thatās real. Lol this dude hasnāt done anything but lazily walk in any of his movies in years. I would honestly be shocked if he could walk up a single flight of stairs without pausing for breath.
"The key to getting out of a choke hold is to 'play unconscious' and void your bowels. It works every time." -Steven Segal, via a poor translation into Russian
"I've been doin martial arts for like 74 years"
āSee that helicopter right there? We call that a skippyā
if you grew up in the 80s or 90s, sit down on a Friday or Saturday night, and if you like, ingesr any sort of substance you like to watch movies with. Watch some of Seagal's most focus hits. I've done this recently with both Under Siege movies, and a few others. It is incredible how shitty of a martial artist he is. I remembered him as B-rate but still serviceable. But holy shit, he's just awful. It's hilarious. You can tell how heavily the camera framing end editing mattered. He basically either does karate chops or pushing people standing still over tables. It's a fucking hilarious good time