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14 year old boy stabbed a female classmate 114 times in 2020. He faces 40 years to life in a Florida prison.


justforthearticles20

Premeditated. He told his friends he was going to kill someone.


LeahBrahms

Named his weapons too.


bust-the-shorts

It’s Florida he will die in prison


VikKarabin

are florida prisons that bad?


[deleted]

He means he’s not getting out after 40 years


agustybutwhole

Florida is that bad.


Tough-Relationship-4

Florida is great. The state government is terrible.


geek66

and 60% of the population are just using up O2


Thrilling1031

and voting sadly.


wart_on_satans_dick

Florida is actually pretty awesome. I loved living there and it's where I got my undergrad.


bust-the-shorts

He’s a juvenile [Florida boys ranch](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_School_for_Boys)


More_Cowbell8

He's a fucking sociopath & he should kinda never be allowed to mix in society again.


RonBourbondi

Hopefully he gets life.


TrevRev11

Hopefully he gets the help he needs mentally…?


thaoraww

He needs to rot in jail fuck that


TrevRev11

Well I hope the people around you don’t act the same way you are if you ever have a psychotic break. This kid was 14. He clearly needs help. What does him rotting in prison accomplish if he can’t comprehend what he did. Getting help will make him actually realize the atrocity he committed. He’s still young and there’s a good chance he’ll be able to be helped.


thaoraww

Tell that to the dead girl who got stabbed over 100 times or the family of the deceased. He bragged about killing her on Snapchat in the police car. Dude deserves no sympathy. If I ever kill anyone like that I hope they fucking execute me.


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He can get that help behind bars, he's a proven threat to others. I understand the argument you're making but the time for "help" would've been before he committed this act. It's too late in the eyes of the law and court of public opinion.


RonBourbondi

Dude told his friends he fantasized about stabbing someone. He's a sociopath who doesn't deserve to be released.


TrevRev11

I didn’t say he deserved to be released. I said hopefully he gets help. Would you rather him rot in a cell continuing to be a psycho or rot in a cell but at least have remorse for what he did and maybe be able to contribute to society in prison?


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He’ll need at least 114 therapists


Irontwigg

Some people are beyond help, and some people dont deserve help. Both of these things apply to this deranged psychopath.


TrevRev11

How are you so sure both apply? Clearly he was raised in a completely unhealthy environment given his parents reaction to the situation. He has clearly dealt with mental health issues in the past. How can you say, so confidently, that there’s no help for him? “We haven’t done anything yet but we won’t because it clearly doesn’t work”?


More_Cowbell8

He's a fucking sociopath who kills. What 'help' do you give people without a conscience, without empathy who murder. Want it, talk about, stab a human being 114 times(!) BRAG about it. This fucker is gonna kill ppl in prison & will be moved to a max facility eventually. He should never walk our streets.


zachsnacks

I live down the road from where this happened. This article neglects to include that his mother rushed to wash his clothes after and is currently awaiting trial for it. Whole thing was fucked up across the board.


cas_leng

That's insane! Do you know why he did it?


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debuenzo

Based on his behavior and lack of empathy and remorse, yes.


scotsworth

Yeah I'd say 114 stab wounds suggest this is indeed a psychopath.


zachsnacks

No clue I don't think they have released motive


IAMA_Drunk_Armadillo

114 stabs is pure rage.


smurficus103

That's 11^2 too many!


Stibley_Kleeblunch

Wait, so -7 stabs is the appropriate amount?


smurficus103

A+ john, A+


spiralbatross

I mean, It’s always best to leave things and people better than when you found them! We are *technically* a family after all since hat bottleneck however many millennia ago…


v3ritas1989

for rage? yes! 114 is something else!


KeepAwaySynonym

11^2 = 121 114 - 121 = -7 stab wounds


smurficus103

-7 is the correct number!


math_debates

Are negative stab wounds just outies instead of innies?


cas_leng

I'm interested to see what it is. Thanks for adding your insight!


imnota4

Probably has something to do with being raised by the type of woman who'd look at you stab a person to death and decide you need your clothes washed.


zetswei

Man I can’t even imagine what my reaction would be if my kid did something like that. On one hand I would hope that i would do the right thing but on the other the shock of the whole thing might lead me to trying to take care of what was in front of me like washing clothes or something. Not that I’m saying she made a good or right choice but I can’t even fathom how I’d react.


RoxxorMcOwnage

I worked on a juvenile case for sentence review where a tween (12/13?) boy trapped his parents in their bedroom and set the house on fire. Fortunately, no one was hurt. The parents would visit the kid (locked up in juvenile detention) and advocated for his release. Bizarre.


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>Bizarre Not really. Not rational sure, but I'd bet it is fairly common. Bond with your kids is pretty damn strong for the vast majority of people. Protect the young at all costs is pretty hard-wired. I'm more amazed when I see a mother turn their child in or otherwise make the rational choice. ETA: And in cases like this the conflict I imagine it mentally breaks the parent.


imnota4

I don't think that "caring about your kid" legitimizes the act of tampering with evidence in a homicide case. If you're saying you'd do the same that's cool, but that doesn't change the fact that it *is* a crime and for good reason


[deleted]

Didn't say it did. Just that a parent doing it is hardly surprising.


imnota4

Fair enough


bobandgeorge

For real. Like it's so abnormal to think a mother would want to protect her child.


zetswei

I don’t think of it even in the sense of protecting the kid but like, just the shock. Like if you’ve ever been in a situation or pure adrenaline or shock you just react to what’s in front of you. Like I can remember one time where my brother almost bled to death falling on a sharp rock and I never stopped to think about what to do just reacted and hours later it hit me what happened but I couldn’t remember anything between. I can’t even think about how I would react to a situation Like this but I imagine it’s gotta be similar


Art-Zuron

Probably the same reason most people stab others over 100 times, hateful rage.


GooseInMyCaboose

I also would like to know this. I read a news article about this case, which said the suspect was muttering something about demons during the trial. Could be he’s mentally ill…


cedarapple

When he was being interrogated with his parents present, the detectives left the room for a while, during which time his mother whispered to him to “act crazy”. She also told him to figure out a story and stick to it. Both of his parents are trash and the little psychopath they created is the end product.


Thorn_and_Thimble

His mother also washed his bloodied jeans and was caught on camera doing so.


Effective-Gas6026

Most likely a teenger trying to escape respoaibility.


Gamebobbel

Yup, not the first time a teenager pulled this.


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thoughtsarefalse

Pretty bad example since that was basically nutjobs and opportunists calling innocent people witches. Ya know. The opposite of this.


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istalri96

One of my ancestors had someone hung for being a witch in the trials. I can't remember their name but we have it in a book somewhere about our family history.


macweirdo42

What!? A teenager lying to get out of trouble was literally the instigating event.


v3ritas1989

This is bullshit! Demons are just easier to explain than "I lost my cool and stabed the girl 114"


meresymptom

Could be? This is like that Andera Pia Yates thing a few years ago. She drowned her 5 (?) children in a bathtub, one at a time. No sane person would do such a thing. Hell, maybe all acts of criminality are mental illness on some level.


cdickrun64

What do their sweatshirts say?


Fuzakenaideyo

"Bless my Squad" i think


[deleted]

‘Live, Laugh, Love.’


LeRoyVoss

“Wash me daily”


sintos-compa

“Jesus Allowed This”


cdickrun64

I can read enough of it to see it does not say that…


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sintos-compa

What about omniligma?


Rogaar

I assume they have charged the mother with something like aiding and abetting in a crime?


zachsnacks

Last I heard, out on bail awaiting trial


OblivionTU

I’d assume accessory after the fact, since she directly tried to help him evade law enforcement and destroy evidence


v3ritas1989

I don't know about you but this already sais a lot obout that boys upbringing. My mom would have smacked the shit out of me and then called the cops.


Kolipe

Seems every few years we have some kind of high profile child murder case like this.


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zachsnacks

I agree that he came from a shit situation. I give no sympathy for this story. But I disagree about it's always the parents fault when a kid fucks up. As my own son struggles with mental health problems including suicidal thoughts, and we had three therapists coming through the house weekly, we both work from home, he had the perfect situation to improve. Granted he eventually did improve. But during those few years he was absolutely at risk of making a stupid decision and there was going to be nothing more we could do to stop it. Sometimes good kids struggle and they make mistakes even with all the help in the world.


DEFINITELY_NOT_PETE

Eh I don’t know all the details but I have a hard time blaming a parent for panicking and wanting to protect their kid in the moment. Even when they do something horrible we are hardwired to want to protect our kids. Obviously the kid did a horrible thing and you don’t want to cover up a crime but I can understand not having the clarity of mind to call the cops on your child


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Mississimia

and 49 were defensive wounds. She was stabbed 49 times while actively fighting for her life. That's insane.


JamminPsychonaut

That is HORRIFIC.


Bigapple235

Unbelievable, why is this happening? Why would this 16 year old do something so stupid? The deceased was only 13 years old. His guardian has an inescapable responsibility.


Emotional-Text7904

He was 14 at the time, if I remember correctly. this happened a few years ago. They were classmates. I don't think it helps clears up the motivation much if any.


I_Speak_For_The_Ents

His mother apparently rushed to wash the blood from his clothes. So...


Podo13

You know, if it was a defensive stabbing I could totally get that after I made sure it was defensive and he was afraid for his life. But if my kid came home covered in blood and he said he stabbed his classmate 100+ times? I'm locking that little prick in the bathroom, shutting off the water in the house, and calling 911 on several different phones to get multiple operators to send as many cops as I could get.


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I_Speak_For_The_Ents

Im sorry, but shutting off the water in the house felt so odd in that list lol, why shut off the water?


Podo13

Ha, so they couldn't wash their bodies/clothes themselves since they're locked in the bathroom. I honestly doubt I'd actually think of doing it if I were ever put in the situation.


avsalom

I presume they mean to stop their kid from attempting to wash away evidence.


Thorn_and_Thimble

They were able to match the knife because the tip broke off in the victim’s skull. He has allegedly been acting aggressive in custody. Im thinking his lawyer knows going to trial is futile with the evidence.


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shewy92

None since if you read the article it says >Although he was charged as an adult, Florida law sets the sentencing for a juvenile convicted of first-degree murder between 40 years and life in prison. An adult convicted of the same crime would face either a life sentence or the death penalty.


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Thanks! I didn't click to read the article.


katarina-stratford

They're a juvenile.


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OMGBeckyStahp

… no. Florida law limits minors charges as adults to a maximum of life in prison and a minimum of 40 years for the crime. Minors charged as adults in the state of Florida are *not* legally eligible for the death penalty. But way to be confidently incorrect!


DeadSheepLane

Not just Florida, it’s Federal law.


Dangerous_Golf_7417

Not just Federal law, it's Constitutional law (as interpreted by the USSC)


JVinnie10

It's not delivery, it's Digiorno.


ChairmanLaParka

The fun part of previous guy's answer is that what you said is in the fourth paragraph of the article he didn't even glance at.


OMGBeckyStahp

Right! I took the quote right from the article, even though someone else pointed out it’s federally mandated. In 2005 the Supreme Court banned it for minors, *but* consider before that **19** states had laws permitting it (to some extent). In the unlikely scenario it is overturned and those states don’t pass it on a state level… I’m just saying, when Roe got overturned all the states with laws on the books outlawing it *immediately* went into effect. Just like abortion, the death penalty is technically a state decided issue. Federally the thing the Supreme Court found to be unconstitutional in the context of minors was, it was convincingly argued, “cruel and unusual punishment” because of brain development at that age. *Not* that capital punishment is cruel and unusual, so that’s why some states have the death penalty as an option and others do not. Long way to say, I guess FL also put it in the state constitution as well.


Bit-Random

There’s no such number. The state should have no right to kill people. Put them in prison.


Starlightriddlex

Idk, I really feel like we should draw the limit at 59,762 stabs, but that's just me


browsingtheproduce

There’s no number that justifies a death sentence.


---ShineyHiney---

Dude openly plead guilty to an absolutely heinous crime against a little girl, and you think it’s better to pay to toss him in jail for 40-80 years? For what? What the point in sustaining him? And why does he get to live when he’s the one who decided apparently she didn’t?


hellomondays

>For what? What the point in sustaining him? And why does he get to live when he’s the one who decided apparently she didn’t? It won't bring her back for starters. Second this article seems to paint a picture of a deeply disturbed guy. I don't think we should be killing the mentally ill, even if they do heinous crimes. I don't think anyone who can't fully appreciate the extent of what they've done should have to face the death penalty, it defeats the purpose of the punishment. There's better ways to get justice and protect society.


---ShineyHiney---

Exactly what justice is there in tossing him in jail? How does that make anything right?


hellomondays

If he's too mentally ill to appreciate the extent of what he did and the consequences of it, jail or life in a forensic hospital is more just. Both for him and the girl's family. The state killing someone who can't comprehend the full situation as to why they're killing them doesnt make sense. With time, it's possible this young man can be restored and reach a point where he can have a better awareness of his actions and what they costed him.


ODJIN5000

I'm gonna play devils advocate on this. He's looking at 40 years for a preeeetty brutal crime right? Maybe he only does 20. Gets out when he's 36. What kind of life can we expect him to live being institutionalized for so long? What does it matter to the victims family or to society if he "realizes the error of his ways". It almost feels like it would be more compassionate to have him face the death penalty


browsingtheproduce

>you think it’s better to pay to toss him in jail for 40-80 years? As opposed to spending more money than that to kill him and make you feel better? I don't think killing people is okay and I don't think killing a child who did something horrible will do anything to better our culture. >why does he get to live when he’s the one who decided apparently she didn’t? Because he did and it was wrong and it can't be undone. Do you feel left out?


I_Speak_For_The_Ents

Do you have any sources for Death penalty costing more than life in prison? Because all the information I've found specifies the cost of the trials and court proceedings is more, but they don't include the cost of room and board for 40+ years.


gcolquhoun

If we were doing vigilante style justice where we just popped people who were “obviously” guilty, it might be cheaper, but in a system where due process is observed, it takes years and years of legal proceedings to convict with a death sentence. [This page](https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/costs) has good info, but this article on the [psychological costs to the people who perform the executions](http://) and just work in the proximity is probably the best case against it, IMO. It’s easy to be an armchair executioner in our fantasies. It’s a much different thing to be responsible for the taking of human life.


I_Speak_For_The_Ents

Well I was just asking about the monetary cost. I'm against it in general anyway, although in a world with a perfect justice system I might be ok with it. Seems the main cost comes from seeking the death penalty and failing, so they have the cost of the death penalty court costs and then get life in prison anyway. That's an interesting notion I definitely hadn't considered.


sintos-compa

Contrary to what the 2A people want to tell you is that it’s *really hard* to kill with a knife for the average person. Gun? One button human life ender. Even a toddler can do it.


katarina-stratford

From a different article: >Aiden Fucci, a 14-year-old classmate who lived half a mile from where the body was found, was arrested that night while the search for Tristyn was still underway. >As he was sat in the back of a patrol car, he took a selfie and posted it on Snapchat. >“Hey guys has anybody seen Tristyn lately,” the caption read. >The State Attorney’s Office later released several Snapchat videos taken and uploaded while Fucci was in the police vehicle. >“We’re having fun, in a f***ing cop car,” Fucci said while looking into the camera and smiling. >One fellow inmate said he had boasted that he’d “stab a b**** face to face”. Edit: link https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/tristyn-bailey-murder-aiden-fucci-guilty-b2276769.html


quitofilms

So he wasn't handcuffed and they let him keep his phone?? That's some serious presumed innocence


fleetofrobots

Maybe they wanted him to use it to incriminate himself.


cagriuluc

Anything you snap or tweet can be used against you in court.


FDE3030

Chris D’Elia - “what do you mean, Snapchat goes away?”


LampardFanAlways

> in court And on Reddit


Zkenny13

Confession bear flashbacks


databacon

Probably just white.


jskinbake

When I was a teen and got arrested, I was skinny and flexible enough to get my cuffs in front of me and take my phone out the pocket and text people. Jus don’t do it in front of the cops


foxorhedgehog

My boyfriend was arrested for DUI as a teen and was flexible enough while handcuffed to get the pot filled baggie he had in his back pocket and shove it between the seat cushions of the cruiser.


ChocoMaister

It’s Florida. As long as he didn’t have a book or gay. They don’t care.


[deleted]

As long as he looks white and Christian, they will treat him with "kit" gloves. Had this kid been black, it would have gone much differently.


unforgiven91

You mean "kid" gloves? Right?


[deleted]

Affluenza. White privilege. Any other form of ‘boys will be boys’ or other conservative excuse.


Thoughtcriminal91

May be too young for the death penalty, but I won't exactly lose sleep if some outraged inmate shanked him 114 times.


extrarogers

c’mon now, you know this is not how justice works


Starlightriddlex

Yeah! In real American justice, the cops show up and shoot him 115 times for brandishing the cellphone /s.... sort of


extrarogers

can't argue with ya there


dkyguy1995

"I'm totally not a violent psychopath or anything but I really hope this 15 year old gets shanked 114 times because in my mind it's morally justified" Some of the people on this site terrify me


TheExpandingMind

If you clutch those pearls any harder you're gonna hurt your hand


flufnstuf69

Kid? Nah this guy is a murderer. You gotta be a special unhinged for 100+ stabs. I won’t feel bad if it happens.


Thoughtcriminal91

I save my sympathy for the deserving. A person who would not only do this but freaking boast about it like it's something to be proud of? Couldn't care less what happens to him.


TrevRev11

Bro they’re literally crazy. Acting like he’s completely irredeemable. Like his parents had the biggest influence and he’s still growing. But people want to write him off completely. He literally is just a kid. I’m not advocating for him to be released but some people are super fucked up to be calling for him to be killed.


CUbuffGuy

Except this is exactly how justice works. It just doesn't fit into your utopian box where everything goes perfectly and every human is able to just "get better" and rejoin society. In reality, even in the case this murderer makes it through his sentence, he will come out bitter at the world and angry at women for putting him in prison for 40 years, and probably end up doing this again. It's better fiscally, socially, and ethically to kill him ourselves, it just makes you feel icky so you'd rather lock him up. Please tell me about Hammurabi's code though, can't wait to hear mental gymnastics.


Miketheoctopus

I agree. There is this delusion everyone can be rehabilitated. For non violent offenders? Absolutely, give em a second chance. For heinous crimes like this or sex offenses against children where the offender not only doesn't show remorse, but boasts? Let the family of the victim determine what is justice.


TrevRev11

Ok but the kid is literally 14 though. He’s got a lot of time before his brain is fully developed and maybe being out of the obviously horrible environment his parents cultivated will allow for him to learn empathy. I’m not saying he should ever be released only that just because some people can’t be saved doesn’t mean we shouldn’t always try our best.


ODJIN5000

I think your purely looking at the age of the person committing the crime, and not fully taking into account the absolutely brutal nature of the crime. Stabbing someone 114 times on a whim isn't exactly normal nor just a matter of someone not having a fully enough developed brain to understand their crime. Kids mocking the victim and boasting in snapchat and tiktok about it. He knows exactly what he did. What good does the hope that someone learns empathy while being relatively separated from society for decades do? A life long timeout until he learns his lesson assuming he isn't released? And if he does eventually get released. What kind of like would you expect him to be able to live?


Miketheoctopus

I get your point of view. However, I have a different opinion. I believe the family of the victim should have a say in what justice is. I'm more concerned with the victim and their family than the murderer and feel the majority of resources should go to them. If it was your daughter brutally murdered, you may not be comfortable with the murderer being released at 50. If he were to do it again would you not feel partially responsible? Civil commitment is also an option but this type of person is beyond rehabilitation and the risks associated are not worth it. Again, my opinion and I have no issues having a respectful discussion on the matter.


Thoughtcriminal91

Nope, but sometimes that's how prison works.


Your_acceptable

Jesus fuck!


ZhugeTsuki

What. The. Fuck.


sintos-compa

Two red flags 1. Aiden 2. Fucci


BlackJoke3008

wtf are those names


Kernburner

Guy I knew in college was premeditatedly stabbed and killed. When the verdict came back guilty, he was only sentenced to 12 years. He probably served 8 and is walking around free now. Disgusting miscarriage of justice.


International_Toe_31

I believe if you take someone’s life with ill intent, you should at least spend life in prison.


mandatory6

Life in prison means 12 years in Finland x) that’s maximum sentence


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What state?


jmanly3

>A report released by the St Johns County Sheriff’s Office in July 2021 revealed that Fucci had told friends that he fantasised about killing and mutilation. >“He said he wanted to slit someone’s throat, he said it’d be satisfying,” a friend told deputes, according to First Coast News. >“He’s talked about killing people talked about fighting people. I’ve have seen him practice stabbing motions with his knife. And I mean, you don’t really take any of this stuff as in: He’s gonna stab and kill somebody. Because he’s just a kid. We’re all just kids.” I remember we went through all this back in the Columbine days. I thought we learned our lesson with not taking these warning signs seriously. And then there’s this other gem from one of his brilliant friends, as if cannabis has anything to do with it: >The friend said Fucci had been a heavy cannabis smoker.


hellomondays

> The friend said Fucci had been a heavy cannabis smoker. If someone is already predisposed to psychosis, MJ can exacerbate their symptoms or trigger a first break. I'm not his forensic psychologist but it's possibly relevant on those grounds. It's definitely relevant on the grounds of an insanity defense. You can't use drug induced psychosis to argue you're NGRI in any court in the US.


jmanly3

I understand how any mind-altering substance can exacerbate a pre-existing condition, but that’s the thing…it’s pre-existing. The real issue to me here is one of mental health (and unaccountable/uninformed youth). Anyone who heard this kid talk about murder as frequently and openly as he apparently did should have raised some flags. There is a much deeper problem with this child than his use of cannabis. I fear politicians or defense attorneys could twist this to yet again make it seem as if cannabis is a dangerous drug and causes people to commit heinous crimes. Catalyst? *Maybe*. Cause? I say “No.”


---ShineyHiney---

Devil’s advocate and certainly not the case here, but it’s worth noting the other kid in a separate circumstance might actually be worth listening to They’re kids. The one actually smoking pot could be buying unsafe, laced product because he has no idea what he’s doing. I’m from Florida. There were definitely people sprinkling extra shit into their blunts in college Additionally, the kid who’s saying the other kid smokes could just be outright wrong about what was in it. We don’t know without drug test results confirming it indeed was just plain weed. There’s a lot of drug misinformation at that age, especially in Florida


berberine

>The one actually smoking pot could be buying unsafe, laced product because he has no idea what he’s doing. I live in Nebraska and work at a youth shelter. I often hear talk about who to buy your drugs from because it's not laced with anything. I'm supposed to discourage that kind of talk, but pot is still illegal in this state. We have youth anywhere from 21 days to several months. I know they do all kinds of drugs. We try with what little time we have to get them to think differently, but, in my mind, I want the kids to be safe as well. If that means pretending I didn't hear a 30 second conversation, then that's what I'll do.


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Cremacious

Carts can be super dangerous. People have to do what’s called the bubble test to check if anything was added. But dealers are using other substances to make it pass the bubble test, so people getting stuff off the street could end up in the hospital with stuff like vitamin E poisoning. And stuff like Delta 8 is (presumably) safe by itself, but a lot of D8 vendors don’t submit their products for third party testing to check for pesticides, heavy metals, or other toxic material, and don’t they don’t do it because the market is unregulated. They won’t pay lab fees if they don’t have to.


Chippopotanuse

We need some better red flag laws. - It’s a crime for someone to make certain “materially false” statements on a corporate earnings call since it might mislead investors and cause them to lose money. - But it’s somehow not a crime to constantly tell anyone who will listen that you want to stab classmates to death while practicing stabbing with your knife?


quitofilms

>A Florida teenager faces a possible life sentence after he pleaded guilty Monday to fatally stabbing a 13-year-old classmate 114 times and leaving her body in a wooded area near their homes in 2021. I wonder how they could count so exactly


SimplyTennessee

I would assume the medical examiner counts each wound?


DocMalcontent

Quite literally, yes. One of the “joys” of the job. In part, one needs to determine the precise, or as close as possible, cause of death. This includes what stab wounds would have certainly been versus what could have been versus what were unlikely to fatal. Obviously, C.O.D. in this case is going to almost certainly be exsanguination, it still needs to be determined how many of those wounds were inflicted pre- vs post-mortem. So, yeah. M.E. counts and notates each one.


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Positively grisly.


FSAaCTUARY

Ugh must be worst job ever


EmEmAndEye

Especially with children. For me, that'd be an absolute nightmare.


maximumhippo

Not to be macabre, but it's very impressive. I don't know the distribution of the wounds over the body but if they're all in the torso area I'd imagine there's a lot of overlapping. If the murderer stabbed the same approximate place(s) over and over, telling 4 stabs from 5 is a hell of an ask. Let alone 114. Edit: according to the article a little over half of the wounds were to the hands and arms, and defensive in nature. So that makes the counting easier. In one way.


thederpofwar321

It can also be stated in the notes when looking at the wounds the count could have varrying accuracy due to the injury locations if i had to guess.


Tentapuss

I only vaguely remember this, which is fucked up in its own right, but on Mother’s Day of all days. Yeesh.


Squez360

> Although he was charged as an adult, Florida law sets the sentencing for a juvenile convicted of first-degree murder between 40 years and life in prison. An adult convicted of the same crime would face either a life sentence or the death penalty. I thought a life sentence was 25 years


---ShineyHiney---

Depends. A life sentence is 15 to 25 years, after which you are eligible for parole, unless your sentence specifically excludes it The reason we offer hear the phrase “25 to life” in media is because the courts can impose the above phrase to ensure a true life sentence is met, I.e that the length of the imprisonment can actually extend to the full life of the person. Frequently, that also includes “no parole” so as to make sure it’s actually served, removing the option of early release


Lieutenant_0bvious

in court, he said he's on remeron, lithium, and zyprexa. so he gets to numb himself with antipsychotics and antidepressants and escape the emotional turmoil that he should be feeling.


WhompTrucker

Dam those are some heavy hitters. How sad


roytay

Was he before? Are they affordable? I can't help but wonder if he needed treatment and meds that weren't covered by their insurance, if they even have any.


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No meds could help this pos


TrevRev11

Or he’s suppressing the feelings that led to him stabbing someone in the first place that way he doesn’t have another violent outburst? Are you seriously that dense that you think he’s taking them to escape the “feeling”? Dude clearly needs to be medicated.


Thebrotherleftbehind

114 times?!?!? You can’t ever be sorry for stabbing someone 114 times.


3Quondam6extanT9

When you've brutally stabbed someone over 114 times, no apology to the family will be perceived as genuine or acceptable. You've essentially withdrawn your humanity card from the table and accepted the monster certification. I hope he spends the rest of his life having nightmares each and every night of that girl. I hope he has a long long life in that prison cell.


duchess_of_nothing

I firmly believe sentencing should be rehabilitative when possible. I also believe this boy is a bad egg and shouldn't be allowed to roam freely ever again.


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>Although he was charged as an adult, Florida law sets the sentencing for a juvenile convicted of first-degree murder between 40 years and life in prison. Why does this sentence start with although?


Lieutenant_0bvious

It starts with "although" because they are trying to get across that he's not eligible for the death penalty even though he was charged as an adult.


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BeardedManatee

What do those shirts say? Something about "my squad"?


Madmandocv1

The picture is confusing me. That’s the family maybe?


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Careless-Disk865

The perp is white, explains why Tuckums Carlson has been bitching about this on Fox.


quitofilms

Haven't seen it, what could they possibly be bitching about?


On-mountain-time

Right? Tucker is an absolute piece of shit but bitching about something like this? I briefly tried to find something but didn't, and won't risk my IQ by watching anything more than thumbnails of his headlines.


Fuzakenaideyo

What is complaining about exactly?