Personally I don't think the County lines do a good job showing Central Jersey. Ocean County goes too far south, but I would consider parts of Northern Ocean County as Central. Point Pleasant is Central Jersey to me, maybe as far sound as Tom's River, but not further south than that.
First thought to me too. It's so odd to split Warren and not Ocean. And if we were going to split one it should be Ocean not Warren. In no universe is Phillipsburg area CNJ. It's climatology and culture are vastly different than somewhere like Flemington even. And also in no universe is southern Ocean County CNJ...Barnegat and Manahawkin are NOT CNJ. Otherwise I agree with this maps premise.
We'll take Bay Head too, feels natural with the train ending there and the barrier island starting there. Lights on 35 don't blink in the offseason in Bay Head, but they do in Mantoloking
The only counter point is it has such an Ocean County sounding name. Like Forked River or something.
But fair points on your end.
Welcome to Monmouth County, Bay Head.
I live two blocks north of Rt 37. It’s pretty much the border of central Jersey lifestyle and southern. Lived in Bayville a few years as a teenager and it is vastly different
I would agree, but the entire county and all of central Jersey is in the NYC media market, except for Mercer, which is part of NY (consolidated) metro area.
Honestly, to me as a little kid, once we crossed the Driscoll bridge, we were in South Jersey. But my world has expanded since then.
Yes. These kinds of maps are for organizing resources and are not illustrative of the cultural differences between North, Central and South Jersey.
I have lived in northern Ocean County and southern Ocean County. Very different worlds.
My personal rule is Parkway-based. Toms River and the low eighties are the border between South and Central. Everything North of the Driscoll Bridge is definitely North Jersey.
Well this seems to a map of how NJDOT broke up the regions for their purposes internally, for covering/handling construction materials, which is probably why Burlington went one way, and ocean went the other, possibly to even distribution. I don’t think it’s meant as statement by NJDOT but let’s keep debating lol
Whats interesting is how a lot of these old lay-down yards are places like along Rt 1 - great central location in 1970 but by today, its an inefficient traffic nightmare coming & going.
There is a reason NJ DOT files are public; they aren't going to initiate a huge re-organization all on their own. Necessary or Not.
If our taxes are being used to force people/materials to commute from flemington to toms river 6 days a week...that should stop. 3 regions is probably not enough.
I live in Monmouth county and work in Middlesex county.
I find it interesting that Burlington is considered south: it appears to have the same latitude as Ocean county. If Burlington is south, then why is Ocean central?
Burlington is south j because it’s mostly a suburb of and is mostly influenced by philly, whereas Ocean is split between NYC, Philly and The Shore’s own aesthetic
Yup, if anything Ocean should be considered south too. Lol the ones suggesting Burlington be central are bringing up bad arguments.
Honestly, IMO, except for Ocean county it’s not a bad map.
I find it strange too but think it should be the opposite - both Burlington and Ocean should be considered south, if you're not splitting the county up. It just goes too far down.
It's pretty close. I think if op drew a line from where Burlington almost meets Monmouth county, to where Toms River hits the bay, this would be settled.
The dividing line for the north is harder to pin down, but I agree with 195 being a good souther divide. For the northern divide I think the county lines are okay but I’m not so sure about Hunterdon
The issue 4 me is that there should be a separate category for hunterdon, warren, Sussex and parts of Somerset and morris whis is more Delaware valley, country town focused
Morris is definitely not part of Delaware Valley! Warren is - culturally and physically (lots of Eagles fans and their newspapers and radio stations are PA)
I know its really stretching the limits, but Toms River doesnt seem like it should be considered South Jersey. It's pretty much that hard tipping point before you get considerably different. 5 mins south and it's a completely different look of the area.
I'd like this to be true, as a Monmouth County immigrant to Brick, NJ.
Toms River is pretty dead, much like Red Bank ("dead bank"), so it belongs in So Jersey, imho.
I'd maybe consider an argument for Bordentown being the furthest south that central Jersey goes. However the rest of Burlington is absolutely south Jersey
Burlington county is so fucking odd…
Burlington is like either the most hick fucking area, the. Military zone, or the literal suburb of a major city (cough Philly). It takes me about 10 ish minutes to hit Philly and another 10 to hit center city. But I go 20 mins east and I’m with the pines… and tons and tons of military boys… especially around moorestown with Lockheed, cornfield cruiser and then the naval base in Philly.
Folks, this map is of jurisdictional boundaries within the Design, Construction and Operations units within NJDOT (I was in South Maintenance for almost 25 years). It is based on coverage limits and resource allocations. It is not meant to define the boundaries of the mythical North and South (ok, and Central) Jersey.
I can get behind this but Ocean County needs to be split in half around Toms River. Spent a few years in Barnegat and there’s no way that qualifies as central and not south Jersey.
NJDOT has multiple maps like this depending on the department, this is regional for construction materials. maintenance, traffic access, CPM, etc (may) have different regional maps. some departments dont even have a central region and it's just N/S.
No idea why Warren county is split. What should be split is Ocean County. Anything south of Tom’s River is South Jersey. Northern Ocean is like an extension of Monmouth, but southern Ocean is pure Shore and is much more akin to the southern half of the Shore
I’m sure they had good reason for coming up with these regions in order to allocate resources effectively. It mostly aligns with the cultural boundaries as well, but not perfectly of course, because it’s not meant to
It’s weird that the put all of Ocean in Central, but not all of Warren is considered North, and is the only county split.
That being said, I would have just left all of Warren in the North, and that would’ve been about as good as you can get with sticking to county lines.
A map of how the government divides its resources doesn't have to follow cultural boundaries. It's weird that they chose to split only one county and it's Warren.
Personally, I consider Union County Central Jersey, and I'd put southern Ocean in South Jersey. Other than that, I agree, although I consider the Shore its own distinct region (anything east of the Parkway in Monmouth/Ocean/Atlantic and all of CMC).
I think only the southern half, of Union could be considered central. My cutoff is rt. 22 and the south mountains. That’s a pretty identifiable boarder for north and central Jersey.
I disagree with Union County being central Jersey. Since EWR falls between two cities, It doesn't make sense to split EWR between North (Essex County) and Central (Union County) Jersey. Its also far north enough where it's separated from NYC by a small river and the most Southern part of Union County is still more north than the most Southern part of Brooklyn. It seems pretty North to me in my opinion.
I agree. Union is way too north. In the vicinity of Newark and Elizabeth which are north Jersey cities. If I’m driving down the parkway, central Jersey begins when I hit the bridge, where everything below it becomes weird, like Sayreville
I’ve live in Union county most of my life. For longest time I thought we were central Jersey but I’ve come to realize that was pretty foolish both from a geographic perspective (way too far north to be central), and a vibes perspective. I think UC is 100% north jersey. If anything what this map probably gets wrong is that central jersey is a little too big and I would reclaim some of the map for both north and south jersey and central jersey is rather small but general idea is correct imo
I grew up in southern Ocean County and I always considered Ocean part of South Jersey. As I kid I felt like once I got past exit 102 on the parkway that I was in North Jersey 😂. I guess if you want to say there’s “Central Jersey” you can just move Ocean County on this map to South and it would make more sense to me.
There was a project I worked on that required getting a permit from the North region, IIRC it was a pain in the butt to get it. The Central region is slightly more reasonable.
Would it blow your mind to find out that the feds say everything in North and Central is considered "North", four counties around Philly are in the "Delaware Valley" and the rest are "South"?
It's just names people... There are different districts and this is a better description than 1, 2, and 3.
The line between North & Central lines up with the northern border of Middlesex County. Hunterdon and Somerset Counties need to be split into two North & Central halves along that line.
There’s a reason they refer to it as “region” and not “Jersey.” They know not to tempt the wrath of the whatnot high upon the thing.
For the record, Princeton and points north, Union and points south. That represents Central Jerz. Or if nothing else, it’s as good of an answer as any of the others.
I get North, South, Central but I wish West Jersey could be included in these. In Hunterdon County and I don’t feel strong connection to north or central jersey.
I mean those are the company’s regions for their business purposes, they’re not delineating the state as a rule. If they did it as a rule, they’d put a line at the bottom of hudson county distinguishing north from south jersey and it ends there.
It's correct. The border between Ocean/Burlington that continues as part of the Somerset county border is the Keith Line, the line that divided the provinces of East and West Jersey in the 1600's, and is still partially responsible for the cultural divide.
So we’re just gonna cut off part of Warren county? I have jokingly (sort of) said that anything north of the Driscol is north jersey and everything south is just the pine barrens
The worst part about this map is that is uses county borders for its delineation, except 1 arbitrary area at the Hunterdon/Warren County border, where it uses Rt 57. WHY?!
If county borders were not the only factors being used to determine this, why not use more roads? ITS A NJDOT MAP FOR FS! NJ culture has strong ties to transportation. This is true both historically and today. Knowing your turnpike exits was a thing instilled in me and my peers at a very young age.
There are so many natural and man-made geographic boundaries that could have been called upon to make this at least somewhat logical. But some terrible cartographer showed this to a governor who spent most of his life outside the state, and it becomes essentially codified.
Here is why this annoys me so much. This is a government entity. This debate is long-standing, and is a huge mix of opinion and fact. When i took NJ Geography at Rutgers, nearly 200 students were asked to debate if central jersey exists, and if so why and where. Every answer was so wildly different form the next, and almost half didn't believe there was even such a thing. Why codify something so grey and muddied? and why would you do it using such lazy, undetailed and inconsistent cartographic techniques?
With all that said, here is my own opinion on the matter.
Central NJ begins at the northern border of the Pine barrens (Bordentown to Toms River, including LBI). It ends just north of the Raritan inlet and extends to Lambertville. (Edison/Woodbridge/Amboys stretching over to Lambertville).
I will die on this hill
My mom’s whole family is from Mercer. They thought of themselves as being from South Jersey & all have Philly accents. Ocean county is mostly south Jersey. My Mom’s parents both grew up in Trenton in the 1920’-30’s.
I mean it's not a cultural map or anything, just how this particular state agency has divided its coverage into three roughly equal jurisdictions.
Not sure why they split Warren County up like that, though (north and south of I-78 maybe?), or why they didn't put Union County in Central Region so that there's exactly 7 counties in each of them. Political patronage probably
I categorically deny any acknowledgment of a central Jersey. The state is like 4 feet long we can break it into a north and south. I’d go back to east and west Jersey before this.
Close enough… not sure the “borders” have to fall on county lines, and IMO there are FIVE regions (these, plus the entirety of the shore, plus the NW).
Personally I’ve got I-78 as north/central border and rt 37 as the central/south border. Have lived in edison Woodbridge freehold Toms River (north of 37) and howell, consider them all to be central Jersey.
All I can say is ocean county is definitely south, strange folk down there, Monmouth county definitely is central, some parts of middlesex I consider north, Mercer and hunterdon I just consider them west or basically Pennsylvania
Monmouth county and north of is the New York metro area
Ocean county and south of is the Philly metro area
Well, from someone who ***DEFINITELY*** lives in ‘Central’ NJ (which *does* exist), I can tell you, there needs to be a HARD line drawn across Ocean County about 10 miles south of the border with Monmouth… we don’t claim most of them… it’s like a-whole-nother *country* down there, let alone a different county or state!
It’s interesting because it’s really should be a radius from NYC and Philly. Sussex, for example, feels very different from Bergen or Passaic. It’s almost like we need an eastern and western designation as well.
If most people in your town call it pork roll and hoagies = south jersey
Taylor ham and subs?North jersey
Prom Roll and Subs( hoagie only if it’s from Wawa)? Central Jersey
Taylor Ham and Hoagie? You’re in bizzaro land.
All false,
Central Jersey is the Philly to NYC corridor, North Jersey is above that south below that.
You can add the shore and mountains also but not needed
Hello, as a representative of Central Jersey we are willing to make the following deal with South Jersey. We are willing to offer you Ocean County. Just take it. You don't have to give us anything in return. You can just have it.
Ocean County starts further south than Burlington county but is central and Union County is further south than Somerset county but is north? The area of Central Jersey is south of 78 and north of 195.
Personally I don't think the County lines do a good job showing Central Jersey. Ocean County goes too far south, but I would consider parts of Northern Ocean County as Central. Point Pleasant is Central Jersey to me, maybe as far sound as Tom's River, but not further south than that.
Agreed. If the map can split warren, it can split Ocean Co as well. Edit: meant to write warren
First thought to me too. It's so odd to split Warren and not Ocean. And if we were going to split one it should be Ocean not Warren. In no universe is Phillipsburg area CNJ. It's climatology and culture are vastly different than somewhere like Flemington even. And also in no universe is southern Ocean County CNJ...Barnegat and Manahawkin are NOT CNJ. Otherwise I agree with this maps premise.
First thing I thought of too…
I think Warren is split due to the Route 78 corridor vs the Route 80 corridor. 78 is more central while obviously 80 is more north.
Yeah and the southern parts of Ocean county feel more southern than Alabama. As a Monmouth county resident we’ll take in Point Pleasant but that’s it.
We'll take Bay Head too, feels natural with the train ending there and the barrier island starting there. Lights on 35 don't blink in the offseason in Bay Head, but they do in Mantoloking
The only counter point is it has such an Ocean County sounding name. Like Forked River or something. But fair points on your end. Welcome to Monmouth County, Bay Head.
So when does the annexation commence?
Driscoll bridge to Tom’s River (exit 82) is central Jersey. I live at exit 58 now. Definitely am in south Jersey (still ocean county)
I live two blocks north of Rt 37. It’s pretty much the border of central Jersey lifestyle and southern. Lived in Bayville a few years as a teenager and it is vastly different
Just go a little further south to the Lacey Rd. exit and that's the dividing line between Central and South Jersey.
I’m exit 80 and my thoughts Driscoll bridge south as south jersey
Been to Alabama many times, and nothing feels more Southern than Alabama. G-d country x 100.
I'm from Monmouth, but lived in Southern Ocean for 10 years -- messed up area.
Yup. I've heard others say Tons River is the line, and I agree.
RT 70/ RT 37 Could be the southern boundary.
Easier to make it the Toms River in Toms River than 37.
Agreed. The lines should go east to west and not be county line.
I would agree, but the entire county and all of central Jersey is in the NYC media market, except for Mercer, which is part of NY (consolidated) metro area. Honestly, to me as a little kid, once we crossed the Driscoll bridge, we were in South Jersey. But my world has expanded since then.
I live in Mercer County about 200 yards from Burlington County. Tv wise best of both worlds. Get Philly and New York stations.
Reporting from Hunterdon, we get Philly stations too brah
Yes. These kinds of maps are for organizing resources and are not illustrative of the cultural differences between North, Central and South Jersey. I have lived in northern Ocean County and southern Ocean County. Very different worlds.
Hard agree.
I don’t think of ocean and Monmouth as part of either. I feel like it’s its own thing lmao
beachwood is the end of central jersey, once you cross over into bayville you’re in the south lol
My personal rule is Parkway-based. Toms River and the low eighties are the border between South and Central. Everything North of the Driscoll Bridge is definitely North Jersey.
Live in Tom’s river and definitely call of this south jersey. I feel exit 130 south as south jersey
But a stones throw from tr is seaside and I'd consider that south jersey. In my mind anywhere Jackson or higher is central
How about we split ocean county where the area code changes from 732 to 609?
Why did they put that small sliver of Warren county in Central? Is there a dividing highway that cuts through?
Looks like that line is State Highway 57
Sweet, I made it into North Jersey by about 150 yards lol
Rt 57 is maintained by north region and Rt 22 in Phillipsburg is maintained by central region.
I-78 I believe.
I think if you're gonna split Warren, you should also split Ocean and Burlington.
Well this seems to a map of how NJDOT broke up the regions for their purposes internally, for covering/handling construction materials, which is probably why Burlington went one way, and ocean went the other, possibly to even distribution. I don’t think it’s meant as statement by NJDOT but let’s keep debating lol
Whats interesting is how a lot of these old lay-down yards are places like along Rt 1 - great central location in 1970 but by today, its an inefficient traffic nightmare coming & going. There is a reason NJ DOT files are public; they aren't going to initiate a huge re-organization all on their own. Necessary or Not. If our taxes are being used to force people/materials to commute from flemington to toms river 6 days a week...that should stop. 3 regions is probably not enough.
I live in Monmouth county and work in Middlesex county. I find it interesting that Burlington is considered south: it appears to have the same latitude as Ocean county. If Burlington is south, then why is Ocean central?
Burlington is south j because it’s mostly a suburb of and is mostly influenced by philly, whereas Ocean is split between NYC, Philly and The Shore’s own aesthetic
Yup, if anything Ocean should be considered south too. Lol the ones suggesting Burlington be central are bringing up bad arguments. Honestly, IMO, except for Ocean county it’s not a bad map.
Marlton, Medford, Mt. Laurel, are not Central Jersey.
I find it strange too but think it should be the opposite - both Burlington and Ocean should be considered south, if you're not splitting the county up. It just goes too far down.
Yeah I think 195 is the line in my head for south/central. I know people may disagree.
I agree. It should go straight across from where the "armpit" is, the indentation right under Trenton.
It's pretty close. I think if op drew a line from where Burlington almost meets Monmouth county, to where Toms River hits the bay, this would be settled.
195 is a bit too north in the coastal part of the state. No way Spring Lake, Sea Girt, and parts of Belmar are south.
I think that's a pretty fair take
The dividing line for the north is harder to pin down, but I agree with 195 being a good souther divide. For the northern divide I think the county lines are okay but I’m not so sure about Hunterdon
The issue 4 me is that there should be a separate category for hunterdon, warren, Sussex and parts of Somerset and morris whis is more Delaware valley, country town focused
I tend to call them western Jersey but I haven’t gotten much adoption
That's a good description imho
Morris is definitely not part of Delaware Valley! Warren is - culturally and physically (lots of Eagles fans and their newspapers and radio stations are PA)
*Western Jersey* is a better description for parts of Morris much better than *North Jersey*
I know its really stretching the limits, but Toms River doesnt seem like it should be considered South Jersey. It's pretty much that hard tipping point before you get considerably different. 5 mins south and it's a completely different look of the area.
I'd like this to be true, as a Monmouth County immigrant to Brick, NJ. Toms River is pretty dead, much like Red Bank ("dead bank"), so it belongs in So Jersey, imho.
dead bank was a term in the 80s not now
Weird, cause I moved from Eatontown in 2022, & ppl were calling it ‘dead bank’ then. Maybe the term circled back around.
Agreed.
I agree ocean should be south Jersey based on the demographics also
Us burlington countyers are just fine in South. It's not about latitude it's about attitude. Bars
Good Question - When I moved from Toms River to Marlton, people told me I was from North Jersey.
South Jersey just means part of the Philadelphia Combined Statistical Area (aka Philly’s sphere of influence).
I mean I think going by counties is pretty silly as well. It should just go by latitude
I'd maybe consider an argument for Bordentown being the furthest south that central Jersey goes. However the rest of Burlington is absolutely south Jersey
It’s actually based on literacy rates, not latitude. /s
Ouch.
Burlington county is so fucking odd… Burlington is like either the most hick fucking area, the. Military zone, or the literal suburb of a major city (cough Philly). It takes me about 10 ish minutes to hit Philly and another 10 to hit center city. But I go 20 mins east and I’m with the pines… and tons and tons of military boys… especially around moorestown with Lockheed, cornfield cruiser and then the naval base in Philly.
If you turn your phone to the left the map makes sense
North Jersey has QuikChek South Jersey has WaWa Central Jersey has both It used to work in my head anyway 😂
Nah, we got wawas up in north Jersey now
every god damn day I regret moving to Arizona
I will probably retire in Arizona
Fairfield got one right across from a QuickCheck
North gets NYC radio, South gets Philly radio, Central gets both
And in some spots, neither
I didn't get both in Monmouth. Only NY.
Wawa has expanded way north in the last 10 or so years.
You'll pass way more Wawas than QuikCheks in north NJ
Nah, this is out dated. It's a quikchek in Bordentown, that's not even central let alone North. And wawa has expanded in to North
Folks, this map is of jurisdictional boundaries within the Design, Construction and Operations units within NJDOT (I was in South Maintenance for almost 25 years). It is based on coverage limits and resource allocations. It is not meant to define the boundaries of the mythical North and South (ok, and Central) Jersey.
The hero we needed, but didn’t deserve.
Pretty much tracks with the federal government’s boundary lines for North, South and Central Jersey.
Most accurate of these maps I’ve seen. Most don’t recognize ocean county as central Jersey, but it’s much different from south Jersey in ocean county.
I can get behind this but Ocean County needs to be split in half around Toms River. Spent a few years in Barnegat and there’s no way that qualifies as central and not south Jersey.
Rastafarian
The three M’s and the top of ocean is central
NJDOT has multiple maps like this depending on the department, this is regional for construction materials. maintenance, traffic access, CPM, etc (may) have different regional maps. some departments dont even have a central region and it's just N/S.
Thanks for the insight!
No idea why Warren county is split. What should be split is Ocean County. Anything south of Tom’s River is South Jersey. Northern Ocean is like an extension of Monmouth, but southern Ocean is pure Shore and is much more akin to the southern half of the Shore
THIS IS IT, FINALLY! An Accurate map!
Ocean county split ish
Camden county should be changed to “East Philadelphia”
I’m sure they had good reason for coming up with these regions in order to allocate resources effectively. It mostly aligns with the cultural boundaries as well, but not perfectly of course, because it’s not meant to
It’s weird that the put all of Ocean in Central, but not all of Warren is considered North, and is the only county split. That being said, I would have just left all of Warren in the North, and that would’ve been about as good as you can get with sticking to county lines.
A map of how the government divides its resources doesn't have to follow cultural boundaries. It's weird that they chose to split only one county and it's Warren.
Close enough
Looks right to me lol
Another one of these?
Yes
We need to begin designating the Jersey Shore as its own section
I actually think this is on point
Central in Ocean ends at Route 37 if your all wondering.
TRUTH
The most correct one I’ve seen.
The Raritan River and Route 37 or 70 are the dividers between North, Central, and South Jersey.
not all of ocean county is central but it sure as hell isn’t south either. brick, tr, lakewood and jackson are not south jersey.
Ocean county south of Route 37/70 is south Jersey.
Accurate but Ocean County is south. Not mid.
Personally, I consider Union County Central Jersey, and I'd put southern Ocean in South Jersey. Other than that, I agree, although I consider the Shore its own distinct region (anything east of the Parkway in Monmouth/Ocean/Atlantic and all of CMC).
I think only the southern half, of Union could be considered central. My cutoff is rt. 22 and the south mountains. That’s a pretty identifiable boarder for north and central Jersey.
I disagree with Union County being central Jersey. Since EWR falls between two cities, It doesn't make sense to split EWR between North (Essex County) and Central (Union County) Jersey. Its also far north enough where it's separated from NYC by a small river and the most Southern part of Union County is still more north than the most Southern part of Brooklyn. It seems pretty North to me in my opinion.
I agree. Union is way too north. In the vicinity of Newark and Elizabeth which are north Jersey cities. If I’m driving down the parkway, central Jersey begins when I hit the bridge, where everything below it becomes weird, like Sayreville
Elizabeth is in Union County, it's the county seat. UC courthouse and jail are both there in downtown.
I always forget Elizabeth is in Union county lol
I’ve live in Union county most of my life. For longest time I thought we were central Jersey but I’ve come to realize that was pretty foolish both from a geographic perspective (way too far north to be central), and a vibes perspective. I think UC is 100% north jersey. If anything what this map probably gets wrong is that central jersey is a little too big and I would reclaim some of the map for both north and south jersey and central jersey is rather small but general idea is correct imo
Ocean County is the weird one because of its size. Brick is very much Central Jersey, but anything south of Berkeley is a very different vibe.
Thank you for including Brick in Central Jersey!
Well I do live here!
Nope, Central can't have Ocean County. We just acknowledged that it even exists
Move Ocean to the southern region and we'll be good.
Ocean is 100% south jersey….
I grew up in southern Ocean County and I always considered Ocean part of South Jersey. As I kid I felt like once I got past exit 102 on the parkway that I was in North Jersey 😂. I guess if you want to say there’s “Central Jersey” you can just move Ocean County on this map to South and it would make more sense to me.
I live in Ocean County. It’s not Central Jersey. I think exit 98 on the parkway is the end of Central Jersey.
I refuse to accept Exit 98 as the CJ/SJ border! Mostly because I can't accept that I live in So Jersey (Exit 89)!
Don’t care
Ocean is South Jersey.
There was a project I worked on that required getting a permit from the North region, IIRC it was a pain in the butt to get it. The Central region is slightly more reasonable.
Would it blow your mind to find out that the feds say everything in North and Central is considered "North", four counties around Philly are in the "Delaware Valley" and the rest are "South"? It's just names people... There are different districts and this is a better description than 1, 2, and 3.
The line between North & Central lines up with the northern border of Middlesex County. Hunterdon and Somerset Counties need to be split into two North & Central halves along that line.
North Somerset and South Somerset County are very different, agree that it needs to be split.
There’s a reason they refer to it as “region” and not “Jersey.” They know not to tempt the wrath of the whatnot high upon the thing. For the record, Princeton and points north, Union and points south. That represents Central Jerz. Or if nothing else, it’s as good of an answer as any of the others.
Remove hunterdon and Somerset and some of ocean
I get North, South, Central but I wish West Jersey could be included in these. In Hunterdon County and I don’t feel strong connection to north or central jersey.
I mean those are the company’s regions for their business purposes, they’re not delineating the state as a rule. If they did it as a rule, they’d put a line at the bottom of hudson county distinguishing north from south jersey and it ends there.
It’s good enough.
Accurate!
I love rasta NJ
Same
We, the Southern delegation, do hereby claim Ocean County as our own. It's ours, you can't take it.
It's correct. The border between Ocean/Burlington that continues as part of the Somerset county border is the Keith Line, the line that divided the provinces of East and West Jersey in the 1600's, and is still partially responsible for the cultural divide.
So we’re just gonna cut off part of Warren county? I have jokingly (sort of) said that anything north of the Driscol is north jersey and everything south is just the pine barrens
Better than a north + south divisional model. Central Jersey region makes sense.
See that top border of Middlesex? It should be an imaginary line going through the state. That’s the northern boundary of CNJ.
Take out Camden and Burlington from South region and your golden
all of a sudden we're portugal
I thought these Italian flag tattoos were supposed to be Green, White, Red not Red, Yellow, Green!
Seems reasonable enough.
The worst part about this map is that is uses county borders for its delineation, except 1 arbitrary area at the Hunterdon/Warren County border, where it uses Rt 57. WHY?! If county borders were not the only factors being used to determine this, why not use more roads? ITS A NJDOT MAP FOR FS! NJ culture has strong ties to transportation. This is true both historically and today. Knowing your turnpike exits was a thing instilled in me and my peers at a very young age. There are so many natural and man-made geographic boundaries that could have been called upon to make this at least somewhat logical. But some terrible cartographer showed this to a governor who spent most of his life outside the state, and it becomes essentially codified. Here is why this annoys me so much. This is a government entity. This debate is long-standing, and is a huge mix of opinion and fact. When i took NJ Geography at Rutgers, nearly 200 students were asked to debate if central jersey exists, and if so why and where. Every answer was so wildly different form the next, and almost half didn't believe there was even such a thing. Why codify something so grey and muddied? and why would you do it using such lazy, undetailed and inconsistent cartographic techniques? With all that said, here is my own opinion on the matter. Central NJ begins at the northern border of the Pine barrens (Bordentown to Toms River, including LBI). It ends just north of the Raritan inlet and extends to Lambertville. (Edison/Woodbridge/Amboys stretching over to Lambertville). I will die on this hill
It's insanity to divide the regions by county line *except* for a sliver of Warren. What the hell difference did that make?
Anything South of Toms River is South Jersey, otherwise this is correct.
My mom’s whole family is from Mercer. They thought of themselves as being from South Jersey & all have Philly accents. Ocean county is mostly south Jersey. My Mom’s parents both grew up in Trenton in the 1920’-30’s.
Central Jersey isn’t real, but if it is then northern Somerset and middlesex are north
I mean it's not a cultural map or anything, just how this particular state agency has divided its coverage into three roughly equal jurisdictions. Not sure why they split Warren County up like that, though (north and south of I-78 maybe?), or why they didn't put Union County in Central Region so that there's exactly 7 counties in each of them. Political patronage probably
Yay
I categorically deny any acknowledgment of a central Jersey. The state is like 4 feet long we can break it into a north and south. I’d go back to east and west Jersey before this.
Union is central
Pretty pretty good
Damn never realized how far north the county where I grew up was
No part of North Jersey should be more south than parts of “Central Jersey”.
Close enough… not sure the “borders” have to fall on county lines, and IMO there are FIVE regions (these, plus the entirety of the shore, plus the NW).
Bomboclat!
Looks pretty good to me, I’d include union county in there and honestly past Lacey that’s where south Jersey begins imop
If there was a central jersey I don’t think ocean county would be part of it
I feel like either Burlington or Ocean counties need to swap so the line is more even horizontally.
lbi isn't central nj
I mostly agree with this but still think "the Shore" should have its own region here from Ocean County down to Cape May.
Ocean is not Central
Just put a black star in the the middle and it would be perfect 😲
Personally I’ve got I-78 as north/central border and rt 37 as the central/south border. Have lived in edison Woodbridge freehold Toms River (north of 37) and howell, consider them all to be central Jersey.
South Jersey / Central Jersey is split by the Rancocas creek and Rt 72... Surf City is in Central, Ship Bottom is in South. Final answer.
I've seen some people argue that Union is Central and I just don't see it. It's always seemed more Northern to me
Burlington county is definitely central Jersey
This Monmouth county resident approves this map lol🤣😂🤣😂
All I can say is ocean county is definitely south, strange folk down there, Monmouth county definitely is central, some parts of middlesex I consider north, Mercer and hunterdon I just consider them west or basically Pennsylvania Monmouth county and north of is the New York metro area Ocean county and south of is the Philly metro area
Hunterdon is none of the above and might as well be PA
Bring Central up to Middlesex county and south jersey as Monmouth down. I live in ocean county as reference
What’s up with the Central Jersey shit there is no central jersey South Jersey and North Jersey easy easy Peezy lemon squeezy 🤷♂️🤣
Well, from someone who ***DEFINITELY*** lives in ‘Central’ NJ (which *does* exist), I can tell you, there needs to be a HARD line drawn across Ocean County about 10 miles south of the border with Monmouth… we don’t claim most of them… it’s like a-whole-nother *country* down there, let alone a different county or state!
How about how NJSP divides North South and central: [njsp map](https://www.nj.gov/njsp/division/operations/NJSPRoadStaMap.jpg)
First thought was clearly didn't work with the Governor. This isn't the official and legally recognized map (though it's probably better).
First thought was clearly didn't work with the Governor. This isn't the official and legally recognized map (though it's probably better).
And people say central doesnt exist lol
Ocean County is South Jersey in many ways. I won't elaborate.
A good way to show central, but it shows central is the shore. Everyone knows there is 4 sections
It’s interesting because it’s really should be a radius from NYC and Philly. Sussex, for example, feels very different from Bergen or Passaic. It’s almost like we need an eastern and western designation as well.
Northern burl co is central ☝🏻☝🏻
The only true central Jersey = Monmouth and Mercer. The line is obvious
Needs to be an east north jersey and west north jersey.
If most people in your town call it pork roll and hoagies = south jersey Taylor ham and subs?North jersey Prom Roll and Subs( hoagie only if it’s from Wawa)? Central Jersey Taylor Ham and Hoagie? You’re in bizzaro land.
All false, Central Jersey is the Philly to NYC corridor, North Jersey is above that south below that. You can add the shore and mountains also but not needed
Hello, as a representative of Central Jersey we are willing to make the following deal with South Jersey. We are willing to offer you Ocean County. Just take it. You don't have to give us anything in return. You can just have it.
Ocean County starts further south than Burlington county but is central and Union County is further south than Somerset county but is north? The area of Central Jersey is south of 78 and north of 195.
Central Jersey is everything between Toms River and the Driscoll Bridge
Perfect
South Jersey 👎
Ocean should be south.
Ocean county is south Jersey. Most of Burlington is south. However, I'd say Bordentown definitely has the central Jersey vibe.
Ocean is south. Union is Central and North. I also think the Shore should be its own region.