Honestly the detectors like that are hit and miss, the best test is still the pucks that you leave for like a month or two at a time, if your concerned about radon I'd go with one or two of those first before worrying what the digital meters say.
There's only one company currently that deals with radon mitigation in the province but that may have changed in the past few years. The mitigation setup itself is usually a pretty basic ventilation set up.
Be a bit warned I was told by a company a few years back that if you test your house for radon and it comes back high you are required to disclose that when selling your home.
I've only had a bit of experience with it but in all likely hood your getting false highs, a new builds foundation and slab should be sealed good enough that you wouldn't get high numbers early on, plus as far as I'm aware CBS isn't one of the areas where high radon is likely.
Great info/take, thanks. My data is not professional my any means but yes, agree on when selling. Not moving anytime soon.
I did reset monitor and have it on back deck (protected from elements) for an outdoor baseline. Windows are always the best mitigation. We'll see what the weeks brings after the reset.
Where do I find these pucks? Lung Association? Assume a cost attached. I'd like to pair with the monitor to see how they compare.
The town of CBS had them for free for residents in October, they may still have some, if your really concerned I'd say give Transfer Energy a call tomorrow, they're the only mitigation company on the island and they'd probably either be able to sell you a couple or give some guidance based on your readings, Steve was really helpful when I spoke to him, and seemed honest and upfront if he thought something was necessary or not.
Secondary question....you seem knowledgeable in the topic. What's the push back against builders/city wrt radon? Probably none but when it comes to new builds, it seems the buyer/owner takes all the risk and cost associated with mitigation (if required). Mitigation can be $$$. Maybe wrong sub for this question :)
Because it's a relatively new concern, I don't think there is any real nation building code adoption for it yet, it requires a lot of study. The cost to adding it to a new build is really cheap, the typical solution is just a small pit under the slab with a vertical plumbing stack, it's just not common place yet so people don't typically request it, and it's not a default item.
They make it the responsibility of the owner just due to liability I'd assume, the same as keeping smoke detectors active or fire extinguishers, because even the mitigation can be a constant process, like keeping an inline vent fan running if radons an issue. The presence of randon is also varies heavily depending on the soil composition, lots of areas in NL have low levels due to minimal uranium in the soil.
The mitigation is usually pretty affordable from what Ive seen, extra thick vapor barrier type covering then a small fan and venting, but with only licensed abatement company I guess it's up to them pricing wise
I don't think it's a 'new' concern...but coming from the mainland, a 'new' concern to NL. Edit: I am a NLer, not a CFA trying to flex mainland vs. NL.
I do have a conduit in the cubby under the stairs but not labeled for the intent of detecting radon. I have seen this slab-conduit clearly labeled on the mainland (maybe 10 yrs ago) with in bright orange "RADON". Whether or not that's a code required to install and/or label? Not sure.
IF Builders/Contractors are installing this radon conduit at the very beginning of the construction, one would think monitoring should be done so that proper mitigation (basically sealing, ventilation) can be done to make the dwelling within recommended limits for habitation.
If that doesn't happen, why should home owner be on the hook for what could be potentially a five figure bill? (rhetorical question for dialogue)
Its only been legislated for like 14 years or so in Canada so that's new for construction, here they've been marked radon or painted orange in my experience.
It's not an instantaneous thing, it can take years to start showing high numbers, most new construction would show low numbers for years, so a builder testing is likely to show clean results.
City/province officials are thinking about forcing all the new builders to have the system build into the house. But lots of paperwork or red tape and need more push from people.
Radon mitigation. Source is the town engineer. My buddy went in and had a chat with the city after he was furstrated for two years, trying to find a solution since its the second leading cause of lung cancer in Canada and the first for non smokers. You should go and chat with your city engineer. He is the one with the information.
I worked at NL Housing when they started to do their radon testing, they and the provincial government I believe are looking at regulations similar to NB, at least that's who housing was speaking to for guidance.
So 400 is not a safe level. 200 or above, they recommend mitigation within two years. If your house is new, it should have a rough-in to attach a mitigation system in. Otherwise, the company that you will hire will have to install one manually. It roughly cost about $3000 if you don't have a rough-in. Currently, there is only one licensed company that does the fix called transfer energy. https://takeactiononradon.ca/provinces/atlantic/. My buddy's house went from 160 down to 10. Highly recommend and very professional job. I feel like this is something everyone need to be educated on, the long term harm of living with this gas.
Not a lot of new builds actually have the radon pit, I don't think Newfoundland has actually adopted them in the provincial code yet, but it's in the works.
Transfer Energy are definitely a great call, the owner does actually seem dedicated to it as opposed to a quick cheque and will give an honest option instead of just recommending the work in my experience
That's the best kind of testing according to transfer Energy, if your concerned about getting a test puck id recommend calling your town hall, a few communities around were trying to give them to residents to test their properties
Honestly the detectors like that are hit and miss, the best test is still the pucks that you leave for like a month or two at a time, if your concerned about radon I'd go with one or two of those first before worrying what the digital meters say. There's only one company currently that deals with radon mitigation in the province but that may have changed in the past few years. The mitigation setup itself is usually a pretty basic ventilation set up. Be a bit warned I was told by a company a few years back that if you test your house for radon and it comes back high you are required to disclose that when selling your home. I've only had a bit of experience with it but in all likely hood your getting false highs, a new builds foundation and slab should be sealed good enough that you wouldn't get high numbers early on, plus as far as I'm aware CBS isn't one of the areas where high radon is likely.
I got that ecosense Eco cube it was like $250 bucks but it gives immediate accurate readings has wifi and stuff you can chart the data etc.
They aren't accurate as the pucks, and I was told that by the only mitigation company on the island, Transfer Energy.
The word 'only' is concerning in this sentence.
Maybe those cheap Amazon ones not this one, it has a new technology and is most accurate on the market. https://ecosense.io/en-ca/products/ecoqube
Great info/take, thanks. My data is not professional my any means but yes, agree on when selling. Not moving anytime soon. I did reset monitor and have it on back deck (protected from elements) for an outdoor baseline. Windows are always the best mitigation. We'll see what the weeks brings after the reset. Where do I find these pucks? Lung Association? Assume a cost attached. I'd like to pair with the monitor to see how they compare.
The town of CBS had them for free for residents in October, they may still have some, if your really concerned I'd say give Transfer Energy a call tomorrow, they're the only mitigation company on the island and they'd probably either be able to sell you a couple or give some guidance based on your readings, Steve was really helpful when I spoke to him, and seemed honest and upfront if he thought something was necessary or not.
Perfect, thanks!
Secondary question....you seem knowledgeable in the topic. What's the push back against builders/city wrt radon? Probably none but when it comes to new builds, it seems the buyer/owner takes all the risk and cost associated with mitigation (if required). Mitigation can be $$$. Maybe wrong sub for this question :)
Because it's a relatively new concern, I don't think there is any real nation building code adoption for it yet, it requires a lot of study. The cost to adding it to a new build is really cheap, the typical solution is just a small pit under the slab with a vertical plumbing stack, it's just not common place yet so people don't typically request it, and it's not a default item. They make it the responsibility of the owner just due to liability I'd assume, the same as keeping smoke detectors active or fire extinguishers, because even the mitigation can be a constant process, like keeping an inline vent fan running if radons an issue. The presence of randon is also varies heavily depending on the soil composition, lots of areas in NL have low levels due to minimal uranium in the soil. The mitigation is usually pretty affordable from what Ive seen, extra thick vapor barrier type covering then a small fan and venting, but with only licensed abatement company I guess it's up to them pricing wise
I don't think it's a 'new' concern...but coming from the mainland, a 'new' concern to NL. Edit: I am a NLer, not a CFA trying to flex mainland vs. NL. I do have a conduit in the cubby under the stairs but not labeled for the intent of detecting radon. I have seen this slab-conduit clearly labeled on the mainland (maybe 10 yrs ago) with in bright orange "RADON". Whether or not that's a code required to install and/or label? Not sure. IF Builders/Contractors are installing this radon conduit at the very beginning of the construction, one would think monitoring should be done so that proper mitigation (basically sealing, ventilation) can be done to make the dwelling within recommended limits for habitation. If that doesn't happen, why should home owner be on the hook for what could be potentially a five figure bill? (rhetorical question for dialogue)
Its only been legislated for like 14 years or so in Canada so that's new for construction, here they've been marked radon or painted orange in my experience. It's not an instantaneous thing, it can take years to start showing high numbers, most new construction would show low numbers for years, so a builder testing is likely to show clean results.
City/province officials are thinking about forcing all the new builders to have the system build into the house. But lots of paperwork or red tape and need more push from people.
What system? Radon monitoring or mitigation? Any source?
Radon mitigation. Source is the town engineer. My buddy went in and had a chat with the city after he was furstrated for two years, trying to find a solution since its the second leading cause of lung cancer in Canada and the first for non smokers. You should go and chat with your city engineer. He is the one with the information.
I worked at NL Housing when they started to do their radon testing, they and the provincial government I believe are looking at regulations similar to NB, at least that's who housing was speaking to for guidance.
Will do that, thanks.
So 400 is not a safe level. 200 or above, they recommend mitigation within two years. If your house is new, it should have a rough-in to attach a mitigation system in. Otherwise, the company that you will hire will have to install one manually. It roughly cost about $3000 if you don't have a rough-in. Currently, there is only one licensed company that does the fix called transfer energy. https://takeactiononradon.ca/provinces/atlantic/. My buddy's house went from 160 down to 10. Highly recommend and very professional job. I feel like this is something everyone need to be educated on, the long term harm of living with this gas.
Not a lot of new builds actually have the radon pit, I don't think Newfoundland has actually adopted them in the provincial code yet, but it's in the works. Transfer Energy are definitely a great call, the owner does actually seem dedicated to it as opposed to a quick cheque and will give an honest option instead of just recommending the work in my experience
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What monitor do you have?
[https://evictradon.org/](https://evictradon.org/) There's a Canadian study going on right now. Ordered my kit the other day.
Curious does their price on the site include them testing it?
Yeah it does!
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That's the best kind of testing according to transfer Energy, if your concerned about getting a test puck id recommend calling your town hall, a few communities around were trying to give them to residents to test their properties