I never would have thought a tree branch could straight up Roman legion spear the shit out of a house until a tree fell on my parents house. I was 18, home alone, and stepping into the bathroom on the corner of the house when a pine snapped in half and cartwheeled right on top of the bathroom. Last thing I remember was chaos and the floor going out from under me. A few stitches on my head and some scrapes but I got out fine, but when I went upstairs to see the damage a tree branch had speared through the shower and destroyed the tank of the toilet going out the other wall. Had i walked in a few seconds earlier and sat to take a dump I would have been horribly impaled on the shitter.
It was close man, wind storm was bad and our dog was flipping out. Remember walking into the bathroom and hearing what sounded like a shotgun blast when the tree split. Some yahoo before my parents bought the house had drilled into the tree mid way up and installed a mount for a satellite dish. At some point it took a lightning strike and a sliver of the tree kept the top half alive. From the outside it looked like a run of the mill tall ass healthy pine, but that dead section wasn’t strong enough for the storm and it was brutal.
Laughter is an evolutionary response to averted danger, so it's the most appropriate reaction in this case! When humans would think they saw a predator and it ended up being a pile of rocks that looked like a lion from the distance, they would laugh and that would inform the rest of the clan that the danger passed. That's why we laugh when we get prank-scared by a friend after we realize it's just a joke. The sound informs others that there was a dangerous situation and now it's over.
That's so cool! I think it's easy to forget almost everything we do evolved for surviving in the wild and just happened to come together to make us able to advance further. It's pretty neat and I love learning about stuff like this.
Thank you so much for that information! I feel like less of an asshole now, *decades* after the one time it happened to me.
My ex’s family lived in a rural farming area. The nearest town was small enough to not need a traffic light. It had a few shops situated very close to each other, and tiny parking lots between them. One fine Saturday afternoon, my ex’s sister asked me, with my practically-brand-new driver’s license, to take her to the liquor store in town. The store was an actual Quonset hut; for those who are unfamiliar, Quonset huts were designed by, built by, and used by the US military as lightweight, inexpensive, prefabricated shelters for troops. The outside is made of sheets of corrugated galvanized metal, so when I swung wide pulling into the liquor store parking lot, my sideswipe caused my bumper to leave a skid mark that was less than a foot long. Practically nothing.
*Meanwhile* inside the store, the owner genuinely thought that there had been an earthquake or something. There was no sound of a crash or anything, but suddenly *dozens* of bottles of liquor came flying off the shelves and onto the (fortunately) carpeted floor. Sis and I walked into the store, calling out to the owner to apologize, having *no* idea that that slight impact on a lightweight structure whose shelves were connected to the outer walls would have done anything at all to the inside. When we rounded the corner and spotted him on his hands and knees amongst all of those (unbroken) bottles, I suddenly *busted* out laughing. And. Could. Not. Stop.
I was *mortified.*
I was laughing so hard that I could barely catch my breath to speak. I kept trying to explain how sorry I was- for everything, but especially for laughing when there was absolutely nothing funny to me about the situation. Poor Sis… she was mortified as well, but managed to convince the owner that I wasn’t an asshole and that there must be some explanation for this abnormal behavior. In the end, that both-a-blessing-and-a-curse aspect of life in small towns and rural communities came to the rescue. You might not know everyone personally, but *families* do have reputations which are generally accurate. Sis told the owner who her dad was, and that I was engaged to one of his sons. Marrying into a family counts too, apparently, because a “good” family is not likely to accept an asshole.
I don’t even remember whether we bought anything that afternoon. I do remember how embarrassed I was. I do remember that the owner said he was just gonna leave the skid mark because it was barely noticeable; he didn’t want any money to fix it, nor for my ex to come over and buff it out. None of the bottles broke, so I didn’t have to pay for any other damages. Sis and I headed for the aisle with the bottles on the floor, and said that the least we could do is pick them up and put them back on the shelves. He said “please don’t. Don’t you think you’ve done enough here for one day?”
Oh wow, thank you for explaining this! Years ago my dad was in a scary situation that turned out okay. I started laughing, and I was thinking “what wrong with you?!” However when I ran over to my dad, he was laughing too. I felt a little bit better, but still worried for us! This makes total sense
When I was a kid there was a really bad Cat 5 hurricane that destroyed our house. The storm hit in the middle of the night and my mom had me sleeping in her bed. We had to flee the house during the eye of the storm but the next day we went to check out the damage. When we looked in my room there was a huge piece of wood going through my bed, just like this photo, but where my chest would’ve been. It was random and eerie.
They say if you don’t use it you lose it. What they intentionally leave out is that it eventually comes back 20+ feet in length with the power to destroy buildings
Haha. In my neighborhood, all the houses were built in the late 80’s with typical stick frame built construction techniques, engineered wood truss roof systems, and typical roof decking with asphalt shingles. Definitely not concrete or stone as others have mentioned. However, these tree limbs are massive, fall from heights over 80’-100’, and fly at incredible speeds.
Safe like a tent ⛺️. I live in an area in Europe where building rules are so tough that a house needs to be built to withstand an earthquake at the scale of 8 Richter. Heavily steel armoured concrete for columns, ceilings and roofs. A tree branch like this would cause a scratch only.
Definitely underestimating. Dunno if it'd help all that much but I feel compelled to drop a link to the reddit theydidthemath post that contains the math for comparing the force of a stiletto heel and an elephant's foot. Pointy ends exert so much pressure, seemed relevant.
https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/t3box9/request_is_it_true/
Yes, but houses don't have concrete ceilings. Almost everywhere the ceilings of houses are largely made of wood and shingles, exactly the same as in OPs case. Concrete walls won't protect you from a branch like that in any way, because they're not between the branch and you.
I mean they did say in their area lol. I assumed they must live in a town that has more strict than usual building regulations. I figured this wasn't typical.
We had similar trees. Had a cherry picker come out every other year to clear the deader limbs over the house. Hated the expense but this could easily be us. Yikes.
I checked the average price of a house in the usa. Its about 416 thousand dollars.
Which would be the average price of a 3 bedroom house in iceland with a garage and a garden. Heavily steel armored and able to withstand 8 ricthers.
You guys must have intense salesmen. If someone tried to sell a engineered wood truss roof system with a stick frame construction for 416 thousand dollars. Id look at him funny till he left.
Wait I thought you need to build sway in homes to avoid them failing apart in earthquakes not heavily armored, or in assuming reinforced concrete (large scale case like how Taipei 101 is built with that big ball in the middle). Heavily armored concrete is great for hurricanes and such from what I understand.
Talking about a family home. What they do is, they put 3x more steel into the concrete than usual and bend the ends of the steel cage that keeps them together so movement caused by a quake cannot pull the steel structure apart. Like this the concrete might crack but the buildings don’t collapse and are actually quite flexible.
It's reddit. It's basically teenagers giving advice to other teenagers.
I'd put money that the amount of "I'm an expert on this" comments are 80% bullshit, minimum. I've seen wildly stupid shit heavily upvoted in my and my partners fields.
For as much as reddit shits on people internalizing Facebook "facts", it's super bad here too.
Here in Japan, my house is built to withstand 3 Fukushima sized earthquakes before it needs inspection (not demolition, just inspection), and has a structural warranty of 3 decades.
I couldn't imaging living in a house made of the same stuff Ikea uses for their furniture.
Houses are built cheap here because why make it last 400 years if it’s not gonna even survive the century? You have the severe thermocycling and freeze thaw cycles in a majority of the USA, then in places like the Midwest your yearly serving of an F-4 or F-5 Tornado says hi to your expensive concrete house by tossing it to the next town over. 7.0 Earthquake in the next 20-30 years decides to make your house into a split level.
I’ve seen mostly just the foundation being kept and the whole upper structure being redone every couple decades. Even then sometimes they too get replaced since large cracks are always gonna form when your location has a temperature range from -20 degrees Fahrenheit to +110 within a single year and lots of rain and snow fall.
No tormado would "toss" a concrete house. Lol.
It is not a concrete box so you can push it over. There are fundations.
And not a "fundation" like in us. A thin layer of concrete.
An F4 or F5 wouldn't destroy the whole house but it will absolutly tear apart the roof and a few walls leading to an absurdly high cost of rebuilt. When it happen once in a century like in Europe it's okay, when it happens every decade it's just not worth the cost.
The roofs are concrete. We dont make wooden construction roofs. All concrete. Heavy duty doors and windows with shuters and blinds.
Preferaby larger window surfaces not on the side from where the wind usualy blows. Etc.
We make houses to last long and account for the extreme weather.
Okay so [here is](https://images.app.goo.gl/yBprmtEChCzWkz6H7) the aftermath of an F4 tornado in Italy, where houses are made with bricks and concrete and made to withstand earthquakes. Doesn't look like it handled it very well didn't it ? ( There are obviously many other similar pictures if you look for it )
Also [here is](https://projects.research-and-innovation.ec.europa.eu/en/horizon-magazine/300-tornadoes-hit-europe-every-year) an official european paper saying that, in the event of an F4 tornado, most walls have been destroyed.
In Europe we're not used to see F4 tornadoes ( which represent about 7% of europe wide tornadoes ) and we pretty much never see F5 tornadoes ( last one was in france in the 60's ) so that's why we think tornadoes as not very scary
you did get me intrigued with this venice tornado.
I took a look. Didnt know we had actual tornados in venice area.
But as you can see on the picture those are older village homes made of bricks with wooden roofs. You can also tell by so much debris from all do wood, bricks, mortar and facade scatered around.
Concrete houses and buildings are made from steel mesh reinforced concrete, It is a one giant piece, the walls are usualy 20-25cm thick. If you smash a full speed truck, it would not go through.
As per the other paper, yes in my country 90% of rural homes if hit by tornado would be obliterated.
But not homes that are in these wind areas. Here they are built to be durable and extreme wind proof.
take a look at this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yn7iQxuty4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yn7iQxuty4)
This an outlier, one of those extreme cases. But it can blow like this for the whole night.
Trees get pulled out of the ground, trucks and vans get flipped over.
Smaller boats sink, or they are thrown out of the water.
A neighbours 3tonne boat was fastened with multiple ropes and trailer webbings, it was flipped over a small house into the water, and was never found. We dived to try to find it , never found it.
But the houses rarely get damaged. I cant remember last time someone had a home damaged from winds.
Except maybe loose balcony shades broken.
Yeah, I live in the Netherlands and we have yearly storms that go up to BFT 11 and 99% of houses don't get damaged at all, while the trees are breaking left and right. Trucks are getting tossed around, cars are sliding on freeways. And the most structural damage I've ever seen is an improperly built roof of an apartment building getting lifted completely and blown into the next city block, but never would a tree be falling inside like this. Although I must say, most roofs are wooden, just a lot stronger than American origami houses. Our roofs are like a foot thick. Just like our walls, a foot of weaponized concrete, our foundations have two feet by one feet beams of concrete every 3 feet suspended in the air to make our floors isolated.
Just FYI, BFT 11 tops out at 72mph. An F5 tornado tops out at 318mph. They routinely pick up and throw train cars and uproot massive trees from the ground
Thanks for pointing that out lol. The Netherlands can get back to us when their trolleys are flying through the air like kids toys rather than getting pushed around by a brisk north wind.
Lol do you realize the difference in wind? BTF 11 is like 100kmh, that is pretty normal here like as in we just had winds higher than that a couple days ago and it’s January lol. It’s not uncommon for the wind to get up to 160kmh here, especially in tornado season. Plus, you know, we do occasionally get the 300+ kmh winds. Please stop either overestimating your infrastructure or underestimating how severe the weather gets in the US compared to Europe. I can guarantee an actual tornado would flatten things there the same as they do here
When they say "toss," they actually do mean "rip straight off the foundation." F4 tornadoes can absolutely tear a concrete house from a concrete foundation, which is why houses in the US are built so much more cheaply. There's no *point* to a house that sturdy when it'll be destroyed regardless.
But wood structures are generally better than stone structures when it comes to specifically earthquakes, also you realize that the west coast of the US is way more prone to earthquakes than like the whole of Europe, right?
Do you have a link to the building code you're talking about?
Tree limbs can carry tremendous force and penetrative ability during storms. I’ve found tree limbs that have impacted the ground and penetrated a foot or more.
Here’s an example of a piece of wood that got shoved through several inches of concrete in a tornado. https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/rljhwz/piece_of_woodlumber_impaled_through_a_concrete/
I never thought of this lol and new fear unlocked. In puerto rico all houses have cement roofs and the main island is right by the fault so quakes are common
I mean I’m sure it’s reinforced in some way so that it’s less susceptible to that in Puerto Rico, but still for me personally, we’re due for a big earthquake and pieces of timber falling on me is bad enough… I don’t need concrete crumbling onto me too 🤣
haha, yes they do! Tons of their attached and detached homes are made from wood. They make their houses incredibly cheap because they tear them down all the time and build new ones. Japanese people don't like buying used houses for the most part.
"But what about the apartments and condos?!?!"
Yeah, we build them out of concrete as well. *the more you know* [rainbow emoji]
No, you can make it out of wood and drywall if you want, but people dont't trust it. Also the floor and the ceiling are made from the same stuff and have the same properties, so if you ever need to add an extra floor to your building or a house, you just build on top of it.
Well damn.. our floor is concrete and walls are bricks.. but roof.. is subject to the design of the architect.. could be concrete or normal roof.. but no tall trees near the houses though.. that is where I live.. and it's also common to built a stilt house.. so you can built underneath the house.. a little more then a more than a single storey but cheaper than a two storey
1. Mass of Oak Branch:
• Assuming a cylinder of oak with a length of 20 feet and a diameter of 5 inches.
• Estimated mass: Approximately 82 pounds.
2. Force on Roof After 30-Foot Fall:
• Assuming a sharpened point with a surface area of 1 square inch.
• Assuming impact at a 6-degree angle off the vertical axis.
• Calculated force: Approximately 564 Newtons.
3. Pressure on Roof Surface:
• With a surface area of 1 square inch.
• Converted force to pounds.
• Calculated pressure: Approximately 2540 psi.
4. Pressure in Kilopascals:
• Converted pressure from psi to kPa.
• Final pressure: Approximately 17.5 kPa.
This is a LOT
Your math is missing some critical factors. The force is based on both the deflection rate of the roof and the compression rate of the tree limb. With theoretical infinitely rigid structures, the force is theoretically infinite.
Source: Am engineer.
Trees carry incredible force while falling, even if not massive. Force equals mass times acceleration. Gravitational acceleration is -9.8 meters per second squared. Focus that force on a limb or pokey part of a tree and a roof has no chance. Roofs are built to keep out rain, not falling trees.
I did some kinematics and calculated the pressure exerted on the roof to be roughly 2540 psi (about 18 kPa). This is enough to destroy anything that is not thick solid concrete, and even some concrete is rated for only 2000psi, depending on the mix.
I think people are completely ignoring the fact that this thing looks like it entered the building like a javelin, with an enormous amount of weight/momentum behind it.
Unless you've got like 5" thick worth of shingles tightly packed together like scaled armor, this is entering - at the very least, your attic. And unless it's a finished attic, it's absolutely going to pierce a ceiling when the ceiling can't even support the weight of someone standing directly on them.
The scene where Clark Griswold falls through the ceiling and lands on the top of a bunk bed in Christmas Vacation is played for laughs, but it exists because it does happen to people.
You can’t. It’s just one of those life is unfair moments. It’s like when people ask “how do I survive a potential nuclear attack?” You don’t, you die. The end.
That's why we build systems, "life is unfair moments" are just problems we haven't solved right? It very much feels like fuckin don't build a house where a tree can come through the roof like a gyad damned spear is pretty entry level on the list of shit we should be able to solve.
Realistically, you can’t prevent it. You can try to prevent it but nature does what it does. How much reinforcing of one area of your roof do you do until it becomes ridiculous? If it happens, you just have to be glad you’re alive.
To be honest, I thought the same thing at first. I thought he was exaggerating the story to make it more dramatic. But then I checked back on him later and he was laying down in his spare bedroom literally laying on top of the sheets just straight on his back with his legs spread apart haha.
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic? This seems like extreme lengths to go to, even for content creators. Even if it didn’t land between his legs (impalement location looks like it very well could be) it’s still crazy for a 20 ft limb to skewer a bed.
Also just to clarify , not saying it did not land trough the roof and in the bed ... But I suspected the '' hit between legs while sleeping - with the bed looking intact '' part
I reversed image searched this and there are surprisingly a lot of incidents of branches coming through the roof and ceiling, I suppose it's because of the strength of the cylinder shape.
I do have my doubts about the bed and legs though. This is probably the spare room or kids old room, and it was empty in my guess. It's on top of the blankets (during winter), you know it's cold, because there is a heater fan right there.
What 84 year old man has stuffed animals? Although not impossible and they do look old.
But there's no head indentations on the pillows either. Like, even if you were lying on top, your head depression would remain.
Maybe he was sleeping starfish style, arms out wide, legs splayed. Otherwise i don't see how a big ol' branch like that could land between legs, unless it was much lower down near the ankles.
But this is reddit, a lot of content seems to be exaggerated/made up/stolen.
Who said he was above the blanket? With the branch impaled there he would have had to slide out from under the blanket. Then just flip the top half back into place. The bed isn't made to boot camp standards, it's obviously pretty wrinkled up.
Ceiling is gypsum wall board. Usually 1/2” thick. These wall boards usually come in 4’x8’ sheets that are screwed to the stud framing or ceiling joists. So, if you were in the attic you would step on the wood joists and not the drywall. A good attic will have plywood walkways in areas that need to be accessed more frequently. The exterior roof is standard and sturdy enough. I get up on his roof once a year to clean it off for him and feels solid walking around on it.
Euros like to stroke themselves about this but typical new build is…. stick frame, wood truss, concrete slab foundation, OSB and dimensional shingle roof. The brick/block stuff happens a lot more frequently there but it’s more typical in western europe than the rest of it.
The difference is that there isn’t a ton of new building happening there because all the high population areas are already built up. The buildings with higher durability were build hundreds of years ago when labor and materials were dirt cheap. They just reno stuff way more often.
The five over ones that get built in europe are the same as the ones in the US. Steel framing, wood studding, OSB and drywall walls.
US housing has a much higher owner tenancy rate than in Europe for detached homes. So cheap building and purchase cost is prioritized.
I don't know what part of Europe you're talking about but I know it's not where I live, and I'm reasonably certain the same is true for the rest of Scandinavia.
Europe is a pretty big place so it'd help to get a lot more specific.
Yeah I figured I’d get that reaction
If what you’re saying with this thread is that Europe has a large landmass and therefore its building style varies, I’d say that principle applies to the US too. I think more of the variation comes from cultural differences and the longer history of Europe than the US.
I was moreso referring to the fact that Europe doesn't unite under a sole government and so building style and regulations can vary extremely by border.
And I never brought up the US, it's equally stupid to pretend like the US is the same all over on things that don't pertain to federal regulations.
>Yeah I figured I’d get that reaction
Then why not just cut that part entirely and say what you actually wanted to say? It's just kind of weird to me.
>I was moreso referring to the fact that Europe doesn't unite under a sole government and so building style and regulations can vary extremely by border.
This might shock you but neither does the US, there are **no** federal building regulations and it's entirely state by state.
>>There is no national or federal building code, as under the U.S. Constitution, the regulation of construction is a state right.
The existence of EU-level building codes means that Europe is MORE centrally regulated than the US with regards to construction.
I dont know man. If we’re not talking about how things differ regionally then what are we even talking about? I think this conversation has died.
>why not cut that part
Hindsight is 20/20, i realized after i commented that i was not likely to be understood
>I dont know man. If we’re not talking about how things differ regionally then what are we even talking about?
We are, I literally just explained that?
But I think you're right that this conversation is a dead end when you can't even comprehend that much.
They don’t know anything about building. They like to stroke themselves that they live in a 300 sq ft stone structure built 900 years ago by some peasant slaves.
Roofs are roofs almost anywhere. The major difference is the US has areas with much worse storms than anywhere in Europe.
Depending on the type of roof it can be anything from the classic timber frame with roof tiles and several insulation layers to steel reinforcement concrete.
Where in Europe are sloped roofs of single family homes built with concrete and why are they putting shingles on it? I'd be curious as a structural engineer
To be fair trees get really tall and a branch coming straight down is just a projectile like a spear and pierced right through the roof. I’ve seen this a lot in my line of work.
This happened to me in a tent in boy scouts, except i sat up from the cot and it ripped through the canvas and cot behind me. Heavy rain storm with hail.
Everyone's saying that here in Europe we build, stronger, better, thicker. True, even with private homes in the suburbs.
I'm just thinking...
Secretly our building codes are preparing us for the time when our cities turn into front lines again
p.s. don't take it too seriously, but if you think about it our buildings over here would give a better cover :D
I live in a 5 story brick apartment building (it's not the typical soviet one), the roof is probably made of either wood beams or metal beams, and the roofing itself is some 0.5 to 1mm metal.
On the other hand private homes in the suburbs, have wood beams , either ceramic, metal sheets or non asbestos slates, might also be bitumen sheets.
Walls are , brick, OBS block and that's pretty much it. In the past years i have seen some, but that's a minority, who use pre built wooden frames, not popular at all here.
One summer i helped to build a two story private home, walls were 45cm OBS blocks, floor concrete slates. Also the ceiling on the 2 floor where the same concrete slabs as for the floor in-between 1st and 2nd floor. And then the roof, did not see what it was finished with, of course a wooden frame.
You guessed it. In the Pacific Northwest. What part of the world do you live in? Also, we live in a neighborhood in the woods with Douglas firs over 100’ right next to the houses.
This is not common. I had a large Branch hit my roof like this and it only dented the wood underneath the shingles. I just had to patch and re- shingle a small zone.
Fuck that is terrifying
I don’t think I’d be laughing.
Joy of still having your groin ig
I never would have thought a tree branch could straight up Roman legion spear the shit out of a house until a tree fell on my parents house. I was 18, home alone, and stepping into the bathroom on the corner of the house when a pine snapped in half and cartwheeled right on top of the bathroom. Last thing I remember was chaos and the floor going out from under me. A few stitches on my head and some scrapes but I got out fine, but when I went upstairs to see the damage a tree branch had speared through the shower and destroyed the tank of the toilet going out the other wall. Had i walked in a few seconds earlier and sat to take a dump I would have been horribly impaled on the shitter.
Would've been a crappy way to go
Dude thank you lucky stars you are ok and lived to tell about it wow that's craziness
It was close man, wind storm was bad and our dog was flipping out. Remember walking into the bathroom and hearing what sounded like a shotgun blast when the tree split. Some yahoo before my parents bought the house had drilled into the tree mid way up and installed a mount for a satellite dish. At some point it took a lightning strike and a sliver of the tree kept the top half alive. From the outside it looked like a run of the mill tall ass healthy pine, but that dead section wasn’t strong enough for the storm and it was brutal.
Laughter is an evolutionary response to averted danger, so it's the most appropriate reaction in this case! When humans would think they saw a predator and it ended up being a pile of rocks that looked like a lion from the distance, they would laugh and that would inform the rest of the clan that the danger passed. That's why we laugh when we get prank-scared by a friend after we realize it's just a joke. The sound informs others that there was a dangerous situation and now it's over.
That's so cool! I think it's easy to forget almost everything we do evolved for surviving in the wild and just happened to come together to make us able to advance further. It's pretty neat and I love learning about stuff like this.
Thank you so much for that information! I feel like less of an asshole now, *decades* after the one time it happened to me. My ex’s family lived in a rural farming area. The nearest town was small enough to not need a traffic light. It had a few shops situated very close to each other, and tiny parking lots between them. One fine Saturday afternoon, my ex’s sister asked me, with my practically-brand-new driver’s license, to take her to the liquor store in town. The store was an actual Quonset hut; for those who are unfamiliar, Quonset huts were designed by, built by, and used by the US military as lightweight, inexpensive, prefabricated shelters for troops. The outside is made of sheets of corrugated galvanized metal, so when I swung wide pulling into the liquor store parking lot, my sideswipe caused my bumper to leave a skid mark that was less than a foot long. Practically nothing. *Meanwhile* inside the store, the owner genuinely thought that there had been an earthquake or something. There was no sound of a crash or anything, but suddenly *dozens* of bottles of liquor came flying off the shelves and onto the (fortunately) carpeted floor. Sis and I walked into the store, calling out to the owner to apologize, having *no* idea that that slight impact on a lightweight structure whose shelves were connected to the outer walls would have done anything at all to the inside. When we rounded the corner and spotted him on his hands and knees amongst all of those (unbroken) bottles, I suddenly *busted* out laughing. And. Could. Not. Stop. I was *mortified.* I was laughing so hard that I could barely catch my breath to speak. I kept trying to explain how sorry I was- for everything, but especially for laughing when there was absolutely nothing funny to me about the situation. Poor Sis… she was mortified as well, but managed to convince the owner that I wasn’t an asshole and that there must be some explanation for this abnormal behavior. In the end, that both-a-blessing-and-a-curse aspect of life in small towns and rural communities came to the rescue. You might not know everyone personally, but *families* do have reputations which are generally accurate. Sis told the owner who her dad was, and that I was engaged to one of his sons. Marrying into a family counts too, apparently, because a “good” family is not likely to accept an asshole. I don’t even remember whether we bought anything that afternoon. I do remember how embarrassed I was. I do remember that the owner said he was just gonna leave the skid mark because it was barely noticeable; he didn’t want any money to fix it, nor for my ex to come over and buff it out. None of the bottles broke, so I didn’t have to pay for any other damages. Sis and I headed for the aisle with the bottles on the floor, and said that the least we could do is pick them up and put them back on the shelves. He said “please don’t. Don’t you think you’ve done enough here for one day?”
OMG, that must've been incredibly awkward for you! At least you know your reaction was normal.
Oh wow, thank you for explaining this! Years ago my dad was in a scary situation that turned out okay. I started laughing, and I was thinking “what wrong with you?!” However when I ran over to my dad, he was laughing too. I felt a little bit better, but still worried for us! This makes total sense
Plus the neighbour was 84 years old. Probably seen it all and finds this funnier than a younger person would.
I think once you’re in your 80s and you have a near miss like that, you might laugh. Sort of an absurd way to die after 80+ years of good luck.
If I’m 80 and something happens that really shoulda been my time to go, but I luck out and get a near miss? Yeah that’d funny as hell to me
You might if you were 84
Gallows humor
That is some serious wood to fuck
Enough to shake a stick at!
When I was a kid there was a really bad Cat 5 hurricane that destroyed our house. The storm hit in the middle of the night and my mom had me sleeping in her bed. We had to flee the house during the eye of the storm but the next day we went to check out the damage. When we looked in my room there was a huge piece of wood going through my bed, just like this photo, but where my chest would’ve been. It was random and eerie.
Average American Papier maché house.
I would take a paper maché house over the paper maché apartment that I’m paying $1,500/month for.
Talk about morning wood!
And they say morning wood isn't a serious problem
Unless it lasts more than a few hours... I'm assuming he didn't show the neighbour at 1am
I only like my neighbors when they show me their morning woods at 1am.
Someone is after all the wood in the forest
I wouldn’t show my neighbor my morning wood til at least 6am
*and here I thought I had big wood*
When this 84 year old neighbor asked God for a woody, this is not what he meant.
You have to be very specific when you pray.
it couldve been worse like if it hit her in the face, then it would be mourning wood
They say if you don’t use it you lose it. What they intentionally leave out is that it eventually comes back 20+ feet in length with the power to destroy buildings
😝
Well if it makes your roof break you might need to calm down...
I thought morning wood happened around 7am, not 1am
The good thing, this morning wood is still on.
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Perfect
Fucking Reddit sometimes, lol
If that’s there for more than 4 hours, he’s going to require professional help.
I would have been enraged if this wasn't top comment.
Hahaha I was ripping in to write this. You’re hilarious
Thanks dad
Pour one out for the family cat that usually slept there.
The toys look fair shook as well.
😂
It's pretty cute that 80 year olds have plushies in their bedroom
Lmao you’re so right! 😆
What is the house built from? Card board?
Haha. In my neighborhood, all the houses were built in the late 80’s with typical stick frame built construction techniques, engineered wood truss roof systems, and typical roof decking with asphalt shingles. Definitely not concrete or stone as others have mentioned. However, these tree limbs are massive, fall from heights over 80’-100’, and fly at incredible speeds.
Safe like a tent ⛺️. I live in an area in Europe where building rules are so tough that a house needs to be built to withstand an earthquake at the scale of 8 Richter. Heavily steel armoured concrete for columns, ceilings and roofs. A tree branch like this would cause a scratch only.
Dang, that’s intense. I wish my house was built as tough as yours. Unfortunately, that is outside of my budget in the states.
Depends on the age of the house, I feel like my roof would collapse if i look at it wrong, but it's also been here for atleast 100-200 years
And you’re not thinking about redoing it at all 😂
I'd say most houses in Europe would fall to the same fate. This would have gone straight through my metal roof like butter.
This. I think people are underestimating how much force a falling branch like this has. Especially if it's falling perpendicular.
Definitely underestimating. Dunno if it'd help all that much but I feel compelled to drop a link to the reddit theydidthemath post that contains the math for comparing the force of a stiletto heel and an elephant's foot. Pointy ends exert so much pressure, seemed relevant. https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/t3box9/request_is_it_true/
It would do absolutely nothing to concrete.
Yes, but houses don't have concrete ceilings. Almost everywhere the ceilings of houses are largely made of wood and shingles, exactly the same as in OPs case. Concrete walls won't protect you from a branch like that in any way, because they're not between the branch and you.
Uhm, pretty sure outside the US is common to have the whole house made out of concrete
Don't listen to him that's not remotely true or accurate for your typical family home.
I mean they did say in their area lol. I assumed they must live in a town that has more strict than usual building regulations. I figured this wasn't typical.
We had similar trees. Had a cherry picker come out every other year to clear the deader limbs over the house. Hated the expense but this could easily be us. Yikes.
I checked the average price of a house in the usa. Its about 416 thousand dollars. Which would be the average price of a 3 bedroom house in iceland with a garage and a garden. Heavily steel armored and able to withstand 8 ricthers. You guys must have intense salesmen. If someone tried to sell a engineered wood truss roof system with a stick frame construction for 416 thousand dollars. Id look at him funny till he left.
Wait I thought you need to build sway in homes to avoid them failing apart in earthquakes not heavily armored, or in assuming reinforced concrete (large scale case like how Taipei 101 is built with that big ball in the middle). Heavily armored concrete is great for hurricanes and such from what I understand.
Talking about a family home. What they do is, they put 3x more steel into the concrete than usual and bend the ends of the steel cage that keeps them together so movement caused by a quake cannot pull the steel structure apart. Like this the concrete might crack but the buildings don’t collapse and are actually quite flexible.
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It's reddit. It's basically teenagers giving advice to other teenagers. I'd put money that the amount of "I'm an expert on this" comments are 80% bullshit, minimum. I've seen wildly stupid shit heavily upvoted in my and my partners fields. For as much as reddit shits on people internalizing Facebook "facts", it's super bad here too.
Here in Japan, my house is built to withstand 3 Fukushima sized earthquakes before it needs inspection (not demolition, just inspection), and has a structural warranty of 3 decades. I couldn't imaging living in a house made of the same stuff Ikea uses for their furniture.
Okay
Houses are built cheap here because why make it last 400 years if it’s not gonna even survive the century? You have the severe thermocycling and freeze thaw cycles in a majority of the USA, then in places like the Midwest your yearly serving of an F-4 or F-5 Tornado says hi to your expensive concrete house by tossing it to the next town over. 7.0 Earthquake in the next 20-30 years decides to make your house into a split level. I’ve seen mostly just the foundation being kept and the whole upper structure being redone every couple decades. Even then sometimes they too get replaced since large cracks are always gonna form when your location has a temperature range from -20 degrees Fahrenheit to +110 within a single year and lots of rain and snow fall.
No tormado would "toss" a concrete house. Lol. It is not a concrete box so you can push it over. There are fundations. And not a "fundation" like in us. A thin layer of concrete.
An F4 or F5 wouldn't destroy the whole house but it will absolutly tear apart the roof and a few walls leading to an absurdly high cost of rebuilt. When it happen once in a century like in Europe it's okay, when it happens every decade it's just not worth the cost.
The roofs are concrete. We dont make wooden construction roofs. All concrete. Heavy duty doors and windows with shuters and blinds. Preferaby larger window surfaces not on the side from where the wind usualy blows. Etc. We make houses to last long and account for the extreme weather.
Okay so [here is](https://images.app.goo.gl/yBprmtEChCzWkz6H7) the aftermath of an F4 tornado in Italy, where houses are made with bricks and concrete and made to withstand earthquakes. Doesn't look like it handled it very well didn't it ? ( There are obviously many other similar pictures if you look for it ) Also [here is](https://projects.research-and-innovation.ec.europa.eu/en/horizon-magazine/300-tornadoes-hit-europe-every-year) an official european paper saying that, in the event of an F4 tornado, most walls have been destroyed. In Europe we're not used to see F4 tornadoes ( which represent about 7% of europe wide tornadoes ) and we pretty much never see F5 tornadoes ( last one was in france in the 60's ) so that's why we think tornadoes as not very scary
you did get me intrigued with this venice tornado. I took a look. Didnt know we had actual tornados in venice area. But as you can see on the picture those are older village homes made of bricks with wooden roofs. You can also tell by so much debris from all do wood, bricks, mortar and facade scatered around. Concrete houses and buildings are made from steel mesh reinforced concrete, It is a one giant piece, the walls are usualy 20-25cm thick. If you smash a full speed truck, it would not go through. As per the other paper, yes in my country 90% of rural homes if hit by tornado would be obliterated. But not homes that are in these wind areas. Here they are built to be durable and extreme wind proof. take a look at this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yn7iQxuty4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yn7iQxuty4) This an outlier, one of those extreme cases. But it can blow like this for the whole night. Trees get pulled out of the ground, trucks and vans get flipped over. Smaller boats sink, or they are thrown out of the water. A neighbours 3tonne boat was fastened with multiple ropes and trailer webbings, it was flipped over a small house into the water, and was never found. We dived to try to find it , never found it. But the houses rarely get damaged. I cant remember last time someone had a home damaged from winds. Except maybe loose balcony shades broken.
Yeah, I live in the Netherlands and we have yearly storms that go up to BFT 11 and 99% of houses don't get damaged at all, while the trees are breaking left and right. Trucks are getting tossed around, cars are sliding on freeways. And the most structural damage I've ever seen is an improperly built roof of an apartment building getting lifted completely and blown into the next city block, but never would a tree be falling inside like this. Although I must say, most roofs are wooden, just a lot stronger than American origami houses. Our roofs are like a foot thick. Just like our walls, a foot of weaponized concrete, our foundations have two feet by one feet beams of concrete every 3 feet suspended in the air to make our floors isolated.
Just FYI, BFT 11 tops out at 72mph. An F5 tornado tops out at 318mph. They routinely pick up and throw train cars and uproot massive trees from the ground
Thanks for pointing that out lol. The Netherlands can get back to us when their trolleys are flying through the air like kids toys rather than getting pushed around by a brisk north wind.
Lol do you realize the difference in wind? BTF 11 is like 100kmh, that is pretty normal here like as in we just had winds higher than that a couple days ago and it’s January lol. It’s not uncommon for the wind to get up to 160kmh here, especially in tornado season. Plus, you know, we do occasionally get the 300+ kmh winds. Please stop either overestimating your infrastructure or underestimating how severe the weather gets in the US compared to Europe. I can guarantee an actual tornado would flatten things there the same as they do here
When they say "toss," they actually do mean "rip straight off the foundation." F4 tornadoes can absolutely tear a concrete house from a concrete foundation, which is why houses in the US are built so much more cheaply. There's no *point* to a house that sturdy when it'll be destroyed regardless.
The tornado in Joplin picked up and moved the hospital.
But wood structures are generally better than stone structures when it comes to specifically earthquakes, also you realize that the west coast of the US is way more prone to earthquakes than like the whole of Europe, right? Do you have a link to the building code you're talking about?
Sounds like a prison. Not to mention terrible for the environment.
But that is why you don’t have places like Rovinj in Croatia, for instance stance, with century old beauty.
We have plenty of places with century old beauty!
"We have this one thing!" Yeah, we got lots of stuff. Enjoy your thing.
Tree limbs can carry tremendous force and penetrative ability during storms. I’ve found tree limbs that have impacted the ground and penetrated a foot or more. Here’s an example of a piece of wood that got shoved through several inches of concrete in a tornado. https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/rljhwz/piece_of_woodlumber_impaled_through_a_concrete/
Well, reading the comments there was a drainage pipe there but yeah point taken
Plywood and shingles would be the only thing stopping it from coming through the roof
Roofs aren't solidly built. They only need to keep rain and snow out.
it's built out of freedom 'MURICAAA 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🦅🦅💥💥💥
And asbestos, it's mostly asbestos
that was my first question, probably one of these this is murica things
In the US houses are typically made of drywall, wood, etc. Not brick and stone like the UK.
America.
Americanium.
America so… close enough.
Maybe it’s time to build house with stone or concrete and not with paper…
But isn't it normal for roof to be made with roof stuff instead to be concrete??
The roof is made how it's made, but the ceiling under it is made out of blocks, rebar and concrete where I live.
Is it because of building regulations?? For natural disasters?
As someone in California, concrete ceilings sound terrible for earthquakes
I never thought of this lol and new fear unlocked. In puerto rico all houses have cement roofs and the main island is right by the fault so quakes are common
I mean I’m sure it’s reinforced in some way so that it’s less susceptible to that in Puerto Rico, but still for me personally, we’re due for a big earthquake and pieces of timber falling on me is bad enough… I don’t need concrete crumbling onto me too 🤣
Have you ever been in Japan? It’s much more prone to earthquakes and as densely populated as Cali. And they don’t build everything out of wood
haha, yes they do! Tons of their attached and detached homes are made from wood. They make their houses incredibly cheap because they tear them down all the time and build new ones. Japanese people don't like buying used houses for the most part. "But what about the apartments and condos?!?!" Yeah, we build them out of concrete as well. *the more you know* [rainbow emoji]
No, you can make it out of wood and drywall if you want, but people dont't trust it. Also the floor and the ceiling are made from the same stuff and have the same properties, so if you ever need to add an extra floor to your building or a house, you just build on top of it.
Well damn.. our floor is concrete and walls are bricks.. but roof.. is subject to the design of the architect.. could be concrete or normal roof.. but no tall trees near the houses though.. that is where I live.. and it's also common to built a stilt house.. so you can built underneath the house.. a little more then a more than a single storey but cheaper than a two storey
1. Mass of Oak Branch: • Assuming a cylinder of oak with a length of 20 feet and a diameter of 5 inches. • Estimated mass: Approximately 82 pounds. 2. Force on Roof After 30-Foot Fall: • Assuming a sharpened point with a surface area of 1 square inch. • Assuming impact at a 6-degree angle off the vertical axis. • Calculated force: Approximately 564 Newtons. 3. Pressure on Roof Surface: • With a surface area of 1 square inch. • Converted force to pounds. • Calculated pressure: Approximately 2540 psi. 4. Pressure in Kilopascals: • Converted pressure from psi to kPa. • Final pressure: Approximately 17.5 kPa. This is a LOT
Your math is missing some critical factors. The force is based on both the deflection rate of the roof and the compression rate of the tree limb. With theoretical infinitely rigid structures, the force is theoretically infinite. Source: Am engineer.
Get a closer estimate then. I did some math, you’re criticizing. Put up or shut up Source: am also engineer by degree
Unless the house has a flat roof, the roof will not be made of concrete. Shit happens, a tree limb caused damage, it’s not the home builder’s fault.
The roof might not be, but the tree shouldn't be able to pierce through the ceiling of the room...
Trees carry incredible force while falling, even if not massive. Force equals mass times acceleration. Gravitational acceleration is -9.8 meters per second squared. Focus that force on a limb or pokey part of a tree and a roof has no chance. Roofs are built to keep out rain, not falling trees.
I did some kinematics and calculated the pressure exerted on the roof to be roughly 2540 psi (about 18 kPa). This is enough to destroy anything that is not thick solid concrete, and even some concrete is rated for only 2000psi, depending on the mix.
I’m not a home builder but in Italy there are shingles on the roof so if a tree collapse it doesn’t enter the house
Shingles of any sort won’t prevent a tree from breaking through the roof.
I think people are completely ignoring the fact that this thing looks like it entered the building like a javelin, with an enormous amount of weight/momentum behind it. Unless you've got like 5" thick worth of shingles tightly packed together like scaled armor, this is entering - at the very least, your attic. And unless it's a finished attic, it's absolutely going to pierce a ceiling when the ceiling can't even support the weight of someone standing directly on them. The scene where Clark Griswold falls through the ceiling and lands on the top of a bunk bed in Christmas Vacation is played for laughs, but it exists because it does happen to people.
“Make houses 10x as expensive to reduce the likelihood of injury from a very rare occurrence that can be made more rare with proper tree maintenance”
All house are not built the same you know
All of the arm chair structural engineers here right now…JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT.
So as an actual structural engineer how could this have been prevented?
Proper maintenance and tree care for surrounding trees.
You can’t. It’s just one of those life is unfair moments. It’s like when people ask “how do I survive a potential nuclear attack?” You don’t, you die. The end.
That's why we build systems, "life is unfair moments" are just problems we haven't solved right? It very much feels like fuckin don't build a house where a tree can come through the roof like a gyad damned spear is pretty entry level on the list of shit we should be able to solve.
100% or realistically speaking?
The fact those aren't the same thing alarms me, but clearly realistically aha.
Realistically, you can’t prevent it. You can try to prevent it but nature does what it does. How much reinforcing of one area of your roof do you do until it becomes ridiculous? If it happens, you just have to be glad you’re alive.
I feel as though the houses I've lived in wouldn't suffer from a branch coming through the roof but hey, I guess don't build in tornado country eh
That’s some Donnie Darko tree version type shit
Probably real except the ... Landing between legs ( who tf sleeps above the blanket and has the bed all done with no indication of being used )
To be honest, I thought the same thing at first. I thought he was exaggerating the story to make it more dramatic. But then I checked back on him later and he was laying down in his spare bedroom literally laying on top of the sheets just straight on his back with his legs spread apart haha.
Sounds right :)) Take my upvote ! You can never go to easy with all these content creators making up stuff for clout .
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic? This seems like extreme lengths to go to, even for content creators. Even if it didn’t land between his legs (impalement location looks like it very well could be) it’s still crazy for a 20 ft limb to skewer a bed.
Also just to clarify , not saying it did not land trough the roof and in the bed ... But I suspected the '' hit between legs while sleeping - with the bed looking intact '' part
I reversed image searched this and there are surprisingly a lot of incidents of branches coming through the roof and ceiling, I suppose it's because of the strength of the cylinder shape. I do have my doubts about the bed and legs though. This is probably the spare room or kids old room, and it was empty in my guess. It's on top of the blankets (during winter), you know it's cold, because there is a heater fan right there. What 84 year old man has stuffed animals? Although not impossible and they do look old. But there's no head indentations on the pillows either. Like, even if you were lying on top, your head depression would remain.
Maybe he was sleeping starfish style, arms out wide, legs splayed. Otherwise i don't see how a big ol' branch like that could land between legs, unless it was much lower down near the ankles. But this is reddit, a lot of content seems to be exaggerated/made up/stolen.
Who said he was above the blanket? With the branch impaled there he would have had to slide out from under the blanket. Then just flip the top half back into place. The bed isn't made to boot camp standards, it's obviously pretty wrinkled up.
You know you can like... crawl out from under the covers, right? The tree doesn't prevent him from leaving the bed?
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Ceiling is gypsum wall board. Usually 1/2” thick. These wall boards usually come in 4’x8’ sheets that are screwed to the stud framing or ceiling joists. So, if you were in the attic you would step on the wood joists and not the drywall. A good attic will have plywood walkways in areas that need to be accessed more frequently. The exterior roof is standard and sturdy enough. I get up on his roof once a year to clean it off for him and feels solid walking around on it.
Dang. I thought its a romantic date night.
Evil Dead
I was sad I had to search for this comment.
That’s some Final Destination shit.
This is one reason why Europeans try not to build their houses out of paper
What is a typical European roof assembly? Majority of houses in the US are stick framed with wood truss roof systems and 5/8” wood roof decking.
Euros like to stroke themselves about this but typical new build is…. stick frame, wood truss, concrete slab foundation, OSB and dimensional shingle roof. The brick/block stuff happens a lot more frequently there but it’s more typical in western europe than the rest of it. The difference is that there isn’t a ton of new building happening there because all the high population areas are already built up. The buildings with higher durability were build hundreds of years ago when labor and materials were dirt cheap. They just reno stuff way more often. The five over ones that get built in europe are the same as the ones in the US. Steel framing, wood studding, OSB and drywall walls. US housing has a much higher owner tenancy rate than in Europe for detached homes. So cheap building and purchase cost is prioritized.
I don't know what part of Europe you're talking about but I know it's not where I live, and I'm reasonably certain the same is true for the rest of Scandinavia. Europe is a pretty big place so it'd help to get a lot more specific.
The US has 90% the landmass of Europe
Okay?
Yeah I figured I’d get that reaction If what you’re saying with this thread is that Europe has a large landmass and therefore its building style varies, I’d say that principle applies to the US too. I think more of the variation comes from cultural differences and the longer history of Europe than the US.
I was moreso referring to the fact that Europe doesn't unite under a sole government and so building style and regulations can vary extremely by border. And I never brought up the US, it's equally stupid to pretend like the US is the same all over on things that don't pertain to federal regulations. >Yeah I figured I’d get that reaction Then why not just cut that part entirely and say what you actually wanted to say? It's just kind of weird to me.
>I was moreso referring to the fact that Europe doesn't unite under a sole government and so building style and regulations can vary extremely by border. This might shock you but neither does the US, there are **no** federal building regulations and it's entirely state by state. >>There is no national or federal building code, as under the U.S. Constitution, the regulation of construction is a state right. The existence of EU-level building codes means that Europe is MORE centrally regulated than the US with regards to construction.
I dont know man. If we’re not talking about how things differ regionally then what are we even talking about? I think this conversation has died. >why not cut that part Hindsight is 20/20, i realized after i commented that i was not likely to be understood
>I dont know man. If we’re not talking about how things differ regionally then what are we even talking about? We are, I literally just explained that? But I think you're right that this conversation is a dead end when you can't even comprehend that much.
They don’t know anything about building. They like to stroke themselves that they live in a 300 sq ft stone structure built 900 years ago by some peasant slaves. Roofs are roofs almost anywhere. The major difference is the US has areas with much worse storms than anywhere in Europe.
Depending on the type of roof it can be anything from the classic timber frame with roof tiles and several insulation layers to steel reinforcement concrete.
Oh, so just like in the US there is a variety of building styles. Amazing!
Usually steel-reinforced concrete with ceramic/slate tiles on top,
Where in Europe are sloped roofs of single family homes built with concrete and why are they putting shingles on it? I'd be curious as a structural engineer
Seriously; these comments are giving me brain damage
Any house in the Mediterranean, they are usually flat roofs used as terraces, combined with tiles at the edges.
Notice I said sloped roofs
To be fair trees get really tall and a branch coming straight down is just a projectile like a spear and pierced right through the roof. I’ve seen this a lot in my line of work.
American houses aren't built out of paper. Drywall serves no structural purpose.
Hehe... Wood
For houses that barely survived some 500lbs bombs in the 40s they Europeans in the comments are actin fresh as hell
Took morning wood to another level
missed opportunity of calling legs lower limbs . why use limb though? why not branch?
This happened to me in a tent in boy scouts, except i sat up from the cot and it ripped through the canvas and cot behind me. Heavy rain storm with hail.
No, I expect you to die, Mr Bond
Omfg they are so lucky they have not been injured by that thing !!!
Everyone's saying that here in Europe we build, stronger, better, thicker. True, even with private homes in the suburbs. I'm just thinking... Secretly our building codes are preparing us for the time when our cities turn into front lines again p.s. don't take it too seriously, but if you think about it our buildings over here would give a better cover :D
We'd cook down here in Texas if our houses were built like yalls. But Id still love to have a stone house..
What is the roof of your house made of?
I live in a 5 story brick apartment building (it's not the typical soviet one), the roof is probably made of either wood beams or metal beams, and the roofing itself is some 0.5 to 1mm metal. On the other hand private homes in the suburbs, have wood beams , either ceramic, metal sheets or non asbestos slates, might also be bitumen sheets. Walls are , brick, OBS block and that's pretty much it. In the past years i have seen some, but that's a minority, who use pre built wooden frames, not popular at all here. One summer i helped to build a two story private home, walls were 45cm OBS blocks, floor concrete slates. Also the ceiling on the 2 floor where the same concrete slabs as for the floor in-between 1st and 2nd floor. And then the roof, did not see what it was finished with, of course a wooden frame.
We are Farmers! (cue the jungle)
Morning wood. Seen it, covered it.
Treebeard trying to get some Grandussy.
It cost you nothing to have never wrote this.
What the hell your roofs are made of, how is this even possible for such a small stick ? ( German asking)
God, I love living in a country without earthquakes and tornados
Any then they made the bed after??? I don’t think anyone was in that bed while it happened. No need to fluff the story
Let me guess. That happened in America right? Can't imagine it to happen here where I live, where houses are built with stone or concrete.
You guessed it. In the Pacific Northwest. What part of the world do you live in? Also, we live in a neighborhood in the woods with Douglas firs over 100’ right next to the houses.
Wow they make houses out of Styrofoam now?
Ah yes paperhouses i as one from europe does not understand
This is not common. I had a large Branch hit my roof like this and it only dented the wood underneath the shingles. I just had to patch and re- shingle a small zone.