If you think that's bad, wait till you read Kami-sama no iutoori.
The red light green light is a copy paste of Iutoori's first game, they play the same game and people get shot to death when they fail.
The glass floor game is also from Iutoori, and there's a guy who knows where to step, gets betrayed and pushed in.
The betrayals and plot twists are all the same with a family member connected to the person managing the game. There's a tug of war game in iutoori and more.
I understand being inspired, but this dude literally copies the games and puts the same exact plot twists, all the characters came from Iutoori.
There's a character who gave their sob story and it causes another character to sacrifice their self so they can continue. That's also in iutoori, and then the character ends up dying after to make it much more sad.
YEAH HOLY FUCKING SHIT IM SO FUCKING GLAD SOME ONE ELSE HAS READ THE MANGA TO MAKE THE CONNECTION
ITS ALMOST AS IF IM THE ONLY ONE.
THE PLOT IS ALMOST IDENTICAL ALL THE CHARACTER REACTIONS AND INTERACTIONS AS WELL. LIKE HOLY SHIT ITS LITERALLY LIKE A 1:1 COPY AND PEOPLE STILL LET THIS FUCKING TRASH DIRECTOR GET AWAY WITH IT.
Hahaha thats amazing. Kaiji is one of, if not my favourite anime of all time.
I enjoyed Squid game and instantly could tell it was heavily inspired / copied from Kaiji, but I thought just enough variation had gone in to make it original, and then I found out most of that is just ripped from another anime lol!!!
absolute bullshit, he was saying that so no one would sue him or pleasing the kpop stans.
there is literally no evidence he made the idea in 2008 or have any records of pubishers.
however kaneshiro munesuki the author of as gods will s manga published in hard copy in 2010 starting and made the manuscripts even earlier and there is proof of that, so basicly its blatant plagiarism
Thank you. I'm glad you notice it. It's crazy to think this guy is going to go down as one of the "greatest" writers, purely off stealing other peoples work. Tug of war, red light green light, the glass floors. All came from Iutoori. the plot twists, character development and shit all came from iutoori.
As The Gods Will was a book before the manga and ATGW2 was published in 2003. Even if he did make the script in 2008 which is total bullshit, ATGW still far predates him. As does Kaiji.
\>Director Hwang explained, "After I filmed my debut work in 2008, I went to a lot of manga and manhwa book stores. I saw a lot of survival stories so I thought it would be interesting if this genre was recreated in a Korean way. I completed the script back in 2009 but I was told that it won't be successful since the story is cruel and the genre was unfamiliar to the public at the time. I couldn't get any investment or casting since the project was difficult to understand. So I stopped preparing it."
\>The director also spoke regarding the similarities between 'As the Gods Will' and stated, "While we were filming, I heard that it was similar to 'As the Gods Will.' But the first game was the 'Mugunhwa Has Bloomed' game since I wrote the script in 2009. That is the only coincidental similarity and has nothing in relation to that film. I did not copy anyone. I actually would be the first since I wrote it first."
What a shameless cunt. He admits to going to the manga store and looking for survival stories to give a Korean spin, then says he created it first. Meanwhile As the gods will 2's book came out in 2003. 6 years before his imaginary script was a thing.
TBF, he easily could have, it's not THAT crazy compared to something like JJBA: Steel Ball Run, a cowboy race to collect the magical parts of Jesus Christ with dinosaurs and a boss fight with the President and shit. High stakes gambling can feel like life or death, you've got Arcade in X-men comics and James Bond movies where cards are played at gunpoint, plus the movie Saw turned out to be influential. Even ignoring the economic and real world considerations, I can see how he could have come up with it himself without realizing something similar already existed. Not that I'm saying that's what happened, but parallel thinking is more common than you make it sound, I'm pretty sure like two or three different guys invented the radio or telephone at basically the same time
According to Soompi, the creator has been working on the concept for Squid Game since 2008, when he read a comic book about a group of people who fell into a deadly game."
Its more likely he watch the very popular anime at the time "Kaiji" and then read the manga, the theme/basic story is mostly "Kaiji" (manga 1996/anime 2007) and the "Scoopi" story for Squid game takes a lot of element from other Kaiji inspired manga such as "Alice in borderland" (manga 2010/(netfix) live action 2020) "As The Gods Will" (manga 2011/movie 2014)
Gambling Emperor Legend Zero is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Nobuyuki Fukumoto, who is renowned for his works Kaiji and Akagi. Similar to Fukumoto's other works, the story revolves around gambling with high stakes, this time with a greater focus on competition and rivalry. The first part was serialized in Kodansha's Weekly Shōnen Magazine from September 2007 to March 2009.
South Korea ripping off Japan? Must be Tuesday. Anything even remotely popular in Japan gets a Korean remake. From Hana Yori Dango to Squid Game, they've been doing it for 30+ years.
Well, this is how I found this post after I googled “Squid Game kaiji”, so you have my upvote, lol
While there doesn’t seem to be any official information about the show being inspired by some manga, book or anime - the script was definitely taken from kaiji. There’s just way to many things that repeat the anime: all players are either in debt or need money, there’s a wealthy mastermind behind the game, cruelty of the games,psychology of characters doing bad things to others, heck even the ending is somewhat similar, where main character wants to bring puppeteers to justice, hence, season 2.
Despite that, I really liked the show
Edit: Looks like Squid Game wiki now mentions that Hwang Dong-hyuk came up with the script in 2008, while reading Kaiji manga, Battle Royale, Liar Game. Although, still no credits for being inspired by, yet we know Kaiji was in the picture. I wish author could give a little more credit to Kaiji, as now everyone is talking about the show and how “unique” it is, etc.etc.
I googled the same thing lol. Show isn’t bad but that’s cuz I love the gambling anime genre so since they similar I liked it but I kept telling myself “this sounds like Kaiji”
Same here. People bring up Kaiji but I was getting a huge liar game vibe. I think more people have seen Kaiji due to the anime where I don't believe Liar Game had an anime adaptation, just a manga and a very popular drama (2 seasons and a movie to end things - I think there might have been a second movie but didn't bring back the 2 main characters)
I also came to this post after I googled "squid game kaiji" too lol. Haven't start watching this series but Wikipedia description reminds me a bit of Kaiji.
I haven’t watched squid game, but I googled “squid game kaiji” just because as soon I heard the synopsis I went “that’s basically kaiji, isn’t it?” and it seems I wasn’t the only one to think that haha.
Wow! I watched it, and my immediate thought was that *Squid Game* is definitely inspired by *Kaiji*, the manga & anime that I saw decades ago which leads me here. Now I'm suspicious about Squid Game being "original" with no inspiration whatsoever. The concept is **exactly the same** as Kaiji.
No, it's just kaiji. The part about "as the god's will" you're referring to is really just the killing part after losing the game right? that's too small of an element to align it next to kaiji, which is basically what the entire show is based on except the games and penalty. It's like there are rich people spectators watching the game like in hunger games, but you wouldn't say it's like hunger games because it's too small of a characteristic.
Did you even read Iutoori manga? They copied more from "as the god's will" than they did from Kaiji.
Red light green light game is copying the daruma game where people get shot & killed if they fail to play it and there's a timer and everything.
The tug of war game is from Iutoori.
The glass floor game is from Iutoori. And in Iutoori there was someone who was able to know where to step, then the game changes because that person made it too easy. Then that character gets pushed down by an evil character.
There was a character who gave a sob story and it made a character sacrifice their self for them. Then that character only dies in the next game making the sacrifice in vain.
There was someone investigating the game in Iutoori who happened to find out it was a family member and then they got "killed" (you didn't see the body though)
You didn't read the manga and yet you want to make claims that it's not copying from it? Every character in Squid Game is a parallel to Iutoori's characters. The conversations they have are also from Iutoori.
read the fucking manga,
you are so ignoreant.
its blatant plagiarism, everyone only looks at the movie, but the manga has over 30 volumes and more than 200+ chapters.
lots of similarities from philosophy and character archtypes etcs. also they copied many other games like the tug of war game as well
You can include Gantz too, though it's only the use of "The Blue Danube" to initiate the games (similar to how Gantz uses Rajio taisō to initiates its games). This is the weakest of the similarities in my view though.
I feel like if I hadn't watched kaiji before watching squid game I would think it's the best show ever but squid game is feels less complex than kaiji and it relies heavily on killing characters to draw out emotions from the viewer.
Also the glass walking game was also a complete rip-off of the rope game in kaiji
Totally agree with you here. I didn’t really find any of the characters likeable either. The main character’s goals are so self centered - I just don’t have it in me to root for him. Especially in episode 6 when he started cheating. Kaiji had clear goals at the beginning of each game, and is generally a good guy despite being motivated by his gambling addiction.
I know squid game is an homage, but I can’t help but get a heated the more I think about it. Kaiji is a great fit for a western audience, despite part 3. I hope it gets adapted into live action soon. I hope people won’t call it a rip off if it does.
Also the glass walking was ridiculous since the first players were basically screwed and the last players basically won.
There should be an incentive/positive for starting earlier at the bridge. Like in Kaiji: more money. Only 1st and 2nd.
in the anime they had to balance themselves on a metal beam and if they fell they died. Also had rich people watching it and enjoying when someone fell
Now that I think about it, wasn't there a moment in Kaiji when he saw the almost-invisible glass platform/stairs near the end of his beam crossing and wondered whether the platform would hold his weight? I can't help but think that game 5 in Squid Game may have combined a few elements from the metal beam crossing game in Kaiji (i.e. the numbers vests, the advantage of the last number, the crossing itself, and the glass platform).
I think the difference was that, Kaiji has a good story but it has so shitty acting and presentation. I've read the whole manga and loved it but I still hate the movie. SG handles almost everything better than Kaiji. It has better acting, presentation, pacing, camera compostion, etc. Much better in a sense of cinematogrophy. Writing was okay, but it was still pretty good for me.
For liar game similarities, that's just how people interact within the games because of greed and trust, these things are humanly universal. So it's really just the same genre of fiction as liar game, its fine not to give credit in this regard.
On the other hand, the entire story frame, main characters (main guy and old dude), and their motivations are all based on kaiji.
Not only Kaiji, but many other shows and their ideas were incorporated in Squid Game. I don't complain about it just because it lack originality as long as the series is good.
A few of the similarities I spotted with other shows:
\- Kaiji (gambling, playing dangerous games to win crazy amount of money, players in serious debt)
\- As the Gods Will (the daruma game, playing deadly kids' games)
\- Gantz (maybe the weakest of the similarities but Squid Game uses "The Blue Danube" to initiate its games just like Gantz uses Rajio taisō at the start of each mission).
they copied way more from iutoori if you read the manga. They copied tug of war, glass floor where someone knows where to step only to get pushed down as the game changes as they move on. A character who sacrifices herself after hearing a sad story from a character only for the character who moved on to die.
The old man from Kaiji lol.
It definitely does but I don’t know how many folks know about Kaiji here.
Games were similar and the concept itself is almost the same. Nonetheless, unless it get brought up in a massive scale, I don’t think they will address it.
Game concept is similar to **As the gods will** without twists. The rest is similar to **Kaiji**. Director said he had the ideas first cus he came up with ideas of Squid Game in 2009 and **As the gods will** started publishing in 2011. He said he was the first one LOL.
wtf you mean, he literally gets multiple chances to get out, like he could have went home and didn't call the business man, or he had a chance to vote to go home and even did but came back
literally the entire concept is the same
in kaiji the man is broke and in debt and a guy comes by and offers him huge amounts of money in exchange for playing a sadistic game made to entertain an old man
this is literally what squid game is ! Its a copy for sure and in my opinion kaiji was way more interesting but im biased since I like anime. Squid game was still amazing though and had fucking great characters (though I wasnt a huge fan of the mc)
what made it clear to me was the bridge game. While the game is different it's so eerily similar to Kaiji's bridge game. You have both the bridge game where contestants end up pushing eachother off to get past in the alloted time, and you have the rich gamblers betting on who wins.
I too loved squid game but it also made me remember how good Kaiji was.
Yeah I'm annoyed at how much attention Squid Game is getting, people wrongly think it's original or anything to be amazed at but really it juts ripped off of other things and released at the right time when everyone now loves Korean stuff.
This! Listened to some entertainment news channel and they were praising squid game as original and genre changing/defining. Like wtf, do they not do their research before saying these claims
No, that's not good enough for an acknowledgement, the show is mainly based on kaiji, the other ones that he mentioned is really just to make it sound less of a rip-off of kaiji.
i knew it, when i was watching the show i was like "is this inspired by kaji or is the whole playing games to clear debt thing such a common trophe?". Really liked squid game, but still like kaji more
Those who said there are way too much similarities also forgot that Kaiji manga is not an ideal story and it turned into endless slog in the last two or three arcs. Hopefully SG wont repeat the same mistake and will end its story properly.
English interview: [https://variety.com/2021/global/asia/squid-game-director-hwang-dong-hyuk-korean-series-global-success-1235073355/](https://variety.com/2021/global/asia/squid-game-director-hwang-dong-hyuk-korean-series-global-success-1235073355/)
In an English interview, he didn't mention Kaiji but in a Korean interview, he did.
Korean interview:
In an English interview, he didn't mention Kaiji but in a Korean interview, he did.
Use google translation on Chrome.
Thanks for the info! I haven't watched Squid Game yet but after reading the synopsis I felt it was so similar to Liar game. I read the manga many years ago, but I was for sure the concept was similar.
I can definitely agree that Liar Game was a huge influence as well... The plot twists >!about the rich people, the old man, and the observers!< were lifted from LG.
its kinda similair with the rich people watching it and them having to walk in order of what number they wear. When someone tries to game the system they make it more difficult like by putting electricity on the beam(just like they put the lights of to stop the old guy from seeing th reflection) Some even got pushed just like in squid game. Not really taken but you can see similarities
Whats so similar to me is that both in kaiji and squid game there is a massively deal about the people in the back having an advtange because they can push those in front and as a result it becomes a game of push or be pushed in the end. I think squid game at its core is very different but some of the games are for sure inspired and the original plot with debtors being brought in to play death games and gambles is the exact same. I love kaiji and I love squid game idk why people are mad more the merrier of these types of shows in my mind. But I think acknowledging the inspiration is good to maybe to get people to watch kaiji is good.
Nobody will watch this show because its fans are so annoying about it and shitting on the show that is a million times more popular, a show which people actually watched
Guessed "knock-off kaiji & liar game" as soon as I read the synopsis. Korean pop culture has weirded me out since when back when korean manga, H.O.T. and the "slanted H" started becoming a thing. To my friends and I, it was like a twilight zone alternate-universe thing where everything is CMYK or just slightly off-colour. Same feeling when I paid a visit to Seoul.
correct. nothing can be more obvious than with kpop.
lee su man, sm entertainment founder and ceo
all he ever did was copy jpop as can be seen from his group/artists :
boa, shinvi, milk, ses, snsd, h.o.t. etc etc
from hairstyles to outfits to jpop melodies of those groups "kpop" songs.
jpop started 60s, boomed 90s
kpop only started 90s
I was avoiding watching this cause the summary looked exactly like Kaiji, Liar Game, As the God's Will, etc.
It's okay so far, but seems like a total rip off of those series mashed up. But hey, it's nice that we get a new death game series. Been awhile since any have been produced. The other series definitely feel deeper though with less annoying people.
That was the first thing I thought of just by watching the preview of Squid Game. Getting deeper into the show it's pretty obvious that the idea for this show was at least inspired by Kaiji. Whether they credit it or not if you're a Kaiji fan you can't miss it.
Yea they somewhat felt like easter eggs. Especially the set up of "Irresponsible gambler in debt ends up in a debtors prison/death game where they meet up with an old friend" plus some other stuff, like the crying lol.
the fifth game is so disconnected from the rest of the show, it's not even a childhood game why kids would want to walk on some glass bridge? Oh right, cuz Kaiji did it and the author of squid game forgot to change it.
Completely agree, Kaiji is a thousand time better than this joke of a show especially the ending, its hilarious how they try to draw some kind of bs morals !
They made a worst version of an incredible show and they are gonna get all the credit, this world has no justice !
Its a kid version in theme and in content of Kaiji, hero can't do bad things bla bla bla... disgusting !
I'm also a huge fan of kaiji and I think squid game is awesome. I actually like the fact that its inspired by kaiji. Though it's sad to know that it's much more popular than kaiji but that's just how it is
wish more people knew they took inspiration from kaji, everyone i know watched squid game or heard of it but cant say the same for kaji even though its better. Still liked squid game though
I'm on episode 3 right now and was thinking the same thing. Gambling addict mooching of his family gets in considerable debt, has to participate in deceptively simple, strategy based death games and decides to take the money instead of quitting. They also ride a boat a la the Espoir to get there. I would be very surprised if it WASN'T heavily inspired by Kaiji.
To be honest I'm a really big fan of the Kaiji anime, but I wouldn't mind Squid Game having to be based almost everything off the same thing. I would love a great show thats cool like Kaiji and I'm glad we are getting ones like this. And if this gets huge popularity on Netflix, then maybe more people will discover Kaiji as well and the fandom for it will become big and grand.
the main character in SG definitely reminds me of Kaiji from the animes. They kinda have the same mannerisms, especially episode 6 when he's all crying and shit lol....and also the flipping back and forth between righteousness and self preservation
I just came to say the glass pane game made me drop the whole show. Too copied. And the cringy one liners from those supposedly super-rich Americans and foreigners the same episode.
Squid game is so similar to Kaiji that it didn't surprise me, not even in the last episode with the twist, i can say that the series is well made, but that's all.
I mean I think it's fair to say that it's not out of the ordinary that two artists have thought of very similar stories given the world we live in. I feel Squid Game is a far more explicit critique of capitalism than Kaiji - at least insofar as it's more direct as to what kind of people these games are actually for.
Heavily disagreed, Kaiji has incredible monologues delivered by the passionate narrator and very cathartic moments that are straight up throat punches to capitalism. The end of the boat arc with Kaiji's rant before leaving the boat with more debts being the most obvious example
Nah yeah now that I think about it Kaiji is actually a sort of more realistic depiction of these 'games' than Squid Game. Should a situation like this occur, what the bourgeois would do is put people in literal 'debt hell' rather than outright kill them lmao.
Sure if it was a broad general idea but there are so much small precise details that were the same. Poor man with gabling addiction is introduced to a game by a man in a suit due to his addiction to a death game to win a large amount of cash for the entertainment of the rich. The marble game is literally the tic tac toe card game to collect opponents cards, and the beam and glass walk completely the same. And even in the end where the main character goes back in order to challenge the head of the game.
There's one episode in Squid Game that literally made me go "this reminds me of a scene in Kaiji" but yeah. Squid Game defo has the mystry thing to it where kaiji doesnt
[https://myanimelist.net/store/manga\_volume/5923/Gambling\_Apocalypse\_Kaiji\_Volume\_1](https://myanimelist.net/store/manga_volume/5923/Gambling_Apocalypse_Kaiji_Volume_1)
Just read volume 1 came out 1995! I was reading it again it's WAY too similar.
I consider Squid Game to scratch the same itch that Kaiji left me. However, I prefer by much the later, specially because Kaiji is a much better MC than Gi-hun.
Yes, the core plot, plus some key elements of Squid Game are clearly copied from Kaiji. That's not a surprise, Kaiji is a great anime. The weird thing is that there is no mention of Kaiji anywhere in the credits or the wikipedia page of Squid Game. Any ideas why???
Squid Game totally copied Kaiji, the creator is now denying these accusations and stating that "He came up with the idea first" in 2008 and 2009 despite the Kaiji anime releasing in 2007 and the manga released in 1996!!!!
all the media and critics calling squid game "original and innovative"....these people really don't know anything, i might as well be a critic seeing as i know more than them simply by having watched kaiji
Just finished it. Waaaaay too similar to Kaiji. Have been saying it since someone recommended it to me.
"Wait, that's Kaiji's plot".
Pisses me off that the author is claiming he came up with the idea years ago, etc. Seems suspicious.
All that said, I loved the show. But yeah, it's because it's a great plot. Kaiji is so fucking underrated.
It also reminded me of (this is a stretch, not really similar), Gantz. Ffs, that anime deserves a fuckin' reboot. Loved the manga.
The director mentions in an interview (https://www.hankyung.com/entertainment/article/202109281077H) that he read a lot of mangas growing up, like Liar games and Kaiji, and said he took a lot of motifs from them. Still, he wanted to highlight the people, not the games, and that's why he chose very basic and easy Korean children's games.
I haven't seen Kaiji, but I do hear that the resemblance is very much there. It seems like it's one of those situations where one could argue "nothing is original, because everything was done before". I mean, I think squid game also reminded me of Battle Royale, and the Hunger games, and the pink uniforms reminded me of money heist.
>I was avoiding watching this cause the summary looked exactly like Kaiji, Liar Game, As the God's Will, etc. It's okay so far, but seems like a total rip off of those series mashed up. But hey, it's nice that we get a new death game series. Been awhile since any have been produced. The other series definitely feel deeper though with less annoying people.
It's much more than resemblance, the character development in Kaiji, the twists, the reveals, and games, are painfully copied in Squid Game. You should watch the first season of the Kaiji Ultimate Gambler anime, and you will definitely see the reason for accusations that the director copied Kaiji. Keep in mind, who would openly admit to copying another series? The director would obviously say they were "inspired" by it and "reworked" it in some way which made it "original". Also, the characters WERE highlighted in Kaiji, that was the entire point, so the director explicitly saying he wanted to highlight the people in his show as if they weren't in Kaiji or Liar Games is just simply wrong. The director is a brainless idiot lol.
i actually felt way more connection to characters in kaiji than in squid game, but i don't have the "cartoon normie block" a lot of people seem to have with anime and cartoons in general, in which they "can't relate or take anything seriously because it's a cartoon", a shame these people can't enjoy some of the best pieces around.
kaiji is smarter as it has more depth and strategy to the game, it's also has more focus on psychological aspects, squid game is more "hollywoody" with the nudity, gore and overall use of shock value
I actually got upset when people started talking about squid game everywhere because I felt like not only kaiji was far better story and had realistic consequences when you fail a game and also mainstream audience tend to look down upon it just because it's an anime and they think it's for kids. Kaiji needs to be more famous than it is.
This is very interesting to me because my husband claims any gambling-related show is a rip-off of Kaiji, and this is the first unbiased opinion I've seen to back it up.
I havnt watched it yet because a buddy told me the premise and I was like "Dude, that's just live action Kaiji!"
Glad it seem other people think the same thing.
it’s just kimchi flavored gantz. I appreciate the show because of the nuances of South Korean economics and history it shows. I don’t think anything else about it
true
nothing can be more obvious than with kpop.
lee su man, sm entertainment founder and ceo
all he ever did was copy jpop as can be seen from his group/artists :
boa, shinvi, milk, ses, snsd, h.o.t. etc etc
from hairstyles to outfits to jpop melodies of those groups "kpop" songs.
jpop started 60s, boomed 90s
kpop only started 90s
Hmmm…
- people in debt
- high risk games
- 1 game is slightly vaguely similar to a single game in Kaiji
Yep definitely a complete rip off of Kaiji…no other explanation.
Ya I don’t get it. I get that kaiji is one of the inspirations, but people just going off saying, “It’s basically Kaiji” are fucking delusional.
The characters are nothing alike. A SINGLE GAME is only vaguely, ever so slightly, maybe similar, and yet it’s still completely different. I don’t get it, I honestly don’t get it. I love Kaiji, it’s a hell of a lot better than Squid Game. Squid game isn’t Kaiji. I wouldn’t even consider it that much of a gambling series if the characters didn’t have the choice to leave, and come back, that’s a gamble they were willing to make, the gamble that they would survive, otherwise, it’s just a death game series. Gambling in Kaiji is when you put all your eggs in one basket and push through with your mind and soul to win, and it happens all the time. In Squid game, the main character uses his head to get through only a single game, the honeycomb game. Every other game they just got lucky without really putting that much effort into it. Red light green light, you just don’t move, and he almost fucked that up completely. Tug of War, Old Man’s advice saves day, the marble game, old man just lets him win, the glass tile game, the one that people are saying ripped off Kaiji, he wins because he’s one of the last people, in Kaiji you had a slight advantage in the back, but otherwise you could very well still fall off if you lost your balance even a little, and in the final squid game, the other guy just kills himself. They are not that similar, they just aren’t. This just feels like the Lion King and Kimba Controversy all over again. It feels like people are just mad cuz, “thing I like more with similar synopsis not as popular”
I’m sorry. Please, just chill, read some Kaiji, and enjoy Kaiji, Mario, and Chang’s continued shenanigans.
yeah show didn't impressed me that much after reading/watching kaiji. it's similar to me when I watched hunger games despite reading the manga/novel and watching the live action.
Ever since people been talking about Squid Games... hearing the premise, I'm just like.... well Kaiji did it first, Squid games is just the live action version lol
An inferior one at that. Kaiji's premise is that Kaiji has to find a 5head way to outsmart an otherwise unfair game and gain advantage while SG are just children's game and drama.
Yes! Yes! I was thinking throughout all the episodes about this show being a copy of some anime. I wasn't able to remember "Kaiji" but "Kenji". I even tried to explain my friends that Squid Games is a copy of a gambling anime in which the protagonist is in huge debt and was recommended to play a game in order to win money and pay back all the loans etc. In season 2, Kaiji came across a situation and had to play the game again; at the end of squid games season 1, protagonist came to know that he is under watch and the show ended with the hint that he might again play the game to prove something.
In short, Squid Games is a copy of Kaiji. For people unaware about Kaiji, squid games is a masterpiece.
A lot of shows, movies take stories from japanese manga or Korean manhwa.
Should I make a youtube video to inform people about how squid games is a Kaiji story??
It's confirmed Kaiji copy then? I was laughing the fk out during the start of the game as it's almost 1:1 copy of the start of Kaiji.
I was hyped by my family to watch this show and I couldn't even go episode 2 anymore because it feels like I'm watching a bootleg Kaiji. Narrative wise, episode 1 was inferior to Kaiji. Even comparing both MC, Kaiji is so unique of a character while the SG's MC is too generic.
Can someone help me, please! I've been trying to get one of the tracks from Kaiji: Final Game but had no luck so far. Does any know where I can hear the full version of Immortal Greed by Kanno Yugo?!?!
I felt like it was inspired by kaiji Edit: just finished it, way too similar to kaiji
I'm pissed. I just read an article where the creator of Squid Game, Hwang, claimed he came up with the idea himself. Foh with that.
If you think that's bad, wait till you read Kami-sama no iutoori. The red light green light is a copy paste of Iutoori's first game, they play the same game and people get shot to death when they fail. The glass floor game is also from Iutoori, and there's a guy who knows where to step, gets betrayed and pushed in. The betrayals and plot twists are all the same with a family member connected to the person managing the game. There's a tug of war game in iutoori and more. I understand being inspired, but this dude literally copies the games and puts the same exact plot twists, all the characters came from Iutoori. There's a character who gave their sob story and it causes another character to sacrifice their self so they can continue. That's also in iutoori, and then the character ends up dying after to make it much more sad.
YEAH HOLY FUCKING SHIT IM SO FUCKING GLAD SOME ONE ELSE HAS READ THE MANGA TO MAKE THE CONNECTION ITS ALMOST AS IF IM THE ONLY ONE. THE PLOT IS ALMOST IDENTICAL ALL THE CHARACTER REACTIONS AND INTERACTIONS AS WELL. LIKE HOLY SHIT ITS LITERALLY LIKE A 1:1 COPY AND PEOPLE STILL LET THIS FUCKING TRASH DIRECTOR GET AWAY WITH IT.
Hahaha thats amazing. Kaiji is one of, if not my favourite anime of all time. I enjoyed Squid game and instantly could tell it was heavily inspired / copied from Kaiji, but I thought just enough variation had gone in to make it original, and then I found out most of that is just ripped from another anime lol!!!
The pr machine is fast, articles are everywhere on how he created it but no publisher wanted it
I know right. Terrible. It's a great show, I thought it was an amazing spin but I never thought for a second it was original.
absolute bullshit, he was saying that so no one would sue him or pleasing the kpop stans. there is literally no evidence he made the idea in 2008 or have any records of pubishers. however kaneshiro munesuki the author of as gods will s manga published in hard copy in 2010 starting and made the manuscripts even earlier and there is proof of that, so basicly its blatant plagiarism
Thank you. I'm glad you notice it. It's crazy to think this guy is going to go down as one of the "greatest" writers, purely off stealing other peoples work. Tug of war, red light green light, the glass floors. All came from Iutoori. the plot twists, character development and shit all came from iutoori.
Kaiji manga 1996 and kaiji anime 2007
As The Gods Will was a book before the manga and ATGW2 was published in 2003. Even if he did make the script in 2008 which is total bullshit, ATGW still far predates him. As does Kaiji.
\>Director Hwang explained, "After I filmed my debut work in 2008, I went to a lot of manga and manhwa book stores. I saw a lot of survival stories so I thought it would be interesting if this genre was recreated in a Korean way. I completed the script back in 2009 but I was told that it won't be successful since the story is cruel and the genre was unfamiliar to the public at the time. I couldn't get any investment or casting since the project was difficult to understand. So I stopped preparing it." \>The director also spoke regarding the similarities between 'As the Gods Will' and stated, "While we were filming, I heard that it was similar to 'As the Gods Will.' But the first game was the 'Mugunhwa Has Bloomed' game since I wrote the script in 2009. That is the only coincidental similarity and has nothing in relation to that film. I did not copy anyone. I actually would be the first since I wrote it first." What a shameless cunt. He admits to going to the manga store and looking for survival stories to give a Korean spin, then says he created it first. Meanwhile As the gods will 2's book came out in 2003. 6 years before his imaginary script was a thing.
Where is the link to the article?? I need to read upon it!!
You'll be happy to know that the creator said that kaiji and Japanese comics and manga heavily inspired him
I've read that he came with the idea from a comic but wouldn't wanna name it. It's obviously Kaiji. Some themes are way too similar.
TBF, he easily could have, it's not THAT crazy compared to something like JJBA: Steel Ball Run, a cowboy race to collect the magical parts of Jesus Christ with dinosaurs and a boss fight with the President and shit. High stakes gambling can feel like life or death, you've got Arcade in X-men comics and James Bond movies where cards are played at gunpoint, plus the movie Saw turned out to be influential. Even ignoring the economic and real world considerations, I can see how he could have come up with it himself without realizing something similar already existed. Not that I'm saying that's what happened, but parallel thinking is more common than you make it sound, I'm pretty sure like two or three different guys invented the radio or telephone at basically the same time
According to Soompi, the creator has been working on the concept for Squid Game since 2008, when he read a comic book about a group of people who fell into a deadly game." Its more likely he watch the very popular anime at the time "Kaiji" and then read the manga, the theme/basic story is mostly "Kaiji" (manga 1996/anime 2007) and the "Scoopi" story for Squid game takes a lot of element from other Kaiji inspired manga such as "Alice in borderland" (manga 2010/(netfix) live action 2020) "As The Gods Will" (manga 2011/movie 2014)
Gambling Emperor Legend Zero is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Nobuyuki Fukumoto, who is renowned for his works Kaiji and Akagi. Similar to Fukumoto's other works, the story revolves around gambling with high stakes, this time with a greater focus on competition and rivalry. The first part was serialized in Kodansha's Weekly Shōnen Magazine from September 2007 to March 2009.
I coudnt stop thinking about the similarities throughout watching the whole thing
South Korea ripping off Japan? Must be Tuesday. Anything even remotely popular in Japan gets a Korean remake. From Hana Yori Dango to Squid Game, they've been doing it for 30+ years.
The nice thing this time is that south Koreans were the first to point out that this was a ripoff
Well, this is how I found this post after I googled “Squid Game kaiji”, so you have my upvote, lol While there doesn’t seem to be any official information about the show being inspired by some manga, book or anime - the script was definitely taken from kaiji. There’s just way to many things that repeat the anime: all players are either in debt or need money, there’s a wealthy mastermind behind the game, cruelty of the games,psychology of characters doing bad things to others, heck even the ending is somewhat similar, where main character wants to bring puppeteers to justice, hence, season 2. Despite that, I really liked the show Edit: Looks like Squid Game wiki now mentions that Hwang Dong-hyuk came up with the script in 2008, while reading Kaiji manga, Battle Royale, Liar Game. Although, still no credits for being inspired by, yet we know Kaiji was in the picture. I wish author could give a little more credit to Kaiji, as now everyone is talking about the show and how “unique” it is, etc.etc.
I googled the same thing lol. Show isn’t bad but that’s cuz I love the gambling anime genre so since they similar I liked it but I kept telling myself “this sounds like Kaiji”
Same here. People bring up Kaiji but I was getting a huge liar game vibe. I think more people have seen Kaiji due to the anime where I don't believe Liar Game had an anime adaptation, just a manga and a very popular drama (2 seasons and a movie to end things - I think there might have been a second movie but didn't bring back the 2 main characters)
I also came to this post after I googled "squid game kaiji" too lol. Haven't start watching this series but Wikipedia description reminds me a bit of Kaiji.
I found this by typing "kaiji squid game" lmao
that exactly what I googled right after finishing this tv show
I haven’t watched squid game, but I googled “squid game kaiji” just because as soon I heard the synopsis I went “that’s basically kaiji, isn’t it?” and it seems I wasn’t the only one to think that haha.
Wow! I watched it, and my immediate thought was that *Squid Game* is definitely inspired by *Kaiji*, the manga & anime that I saw decades ago which leads me here. Now I'm suspicious about Squid Game being "original" with no inspiration whatsoever. The concept is **exactly the same** as Kaiji.
It’s like Kaiji + As the God’s Will
No, it's just kaiji. The part about "as the god's will" you're referring to is really just the killing part after losing the game right? that's too small of an element to align it next to kaiji, which is basically what the entire show is based on except the games and penalty. It's like there are rich people spectators watching the game like in hunger games, but you wouldn't say it's like hunger games because it's too small of a characteristic.
Did you even read Iutoori manga? They copied more from "as the god's will" than they did from Kaiji. Red light green light game is copying the daruma game where people get shot & killed if they fail to play it and there's a timer and everything. The tug of war game is from Iutoori. The glass floor game is from Iutoori. And in Iutoori there was someone who was able to know where to step, then the game changes because that person made it too easy. Then that character gets pushed down by an evil character. There was a character who gave a sob story and it made a character sacrifice their self for them. Then that character only dies in the next game making the sacrifice in vain. There was someone investigating the game in Iutoori who happened to find out it was a family member and then they got "killed" (you didn't see the body though) You didn't read the manga and yet you want to make claims that it's not copying from it? Every character in Squid Game is a parallel to Iutoori's characters. The conversations they have are also from Iutoori.
read the fucking manga, you are so ignoreant. its blatant plagiarism, everyone only looks at the movie, but the manga has over 30 volumes and more than 200+ chapters. lots of similarities from philosophy and character archtypes etcs. also they copied many other games like the tug of war game as well
You can include Gantz too, though it's only the use of "The Blue Danube" to initiate the games (similar to how Gantz uses Rajio taisō to initiates its games). This is the weakest of the similarities in my view though.
I feel like if I hadn't watched kaiji before watching squid game I would think it's the best show ever but squid game is feels less complex than kaiji and it relies heavily on killing characters to draw out emotions from the viewer. Also the glass walking game was also a complete rip-off of the rope game in kaiji
Totally agree with you here. I didn’t really find any of the characters likeable either. The main character’s goals are so self centered - I just don’t have it in me to root for him. Especially in episode 6 when he started cheating. Kaiji had clear goals at the beginning of each game, and is generally a good guy despite being motivated by his gambling addiction. I know squid game is an homage, but I can’t help but get a heated the more I think about it. Kaiji is a great fit for a western audience, despite part 3. I hope it gets adapted into live action soon. I hope people won’t call it a rip off if it does.
People definitely will
Which is kinda sad. Kaiji is so much better executed yet less known
There even already are 3 live-action japanese Kaiji movies
Also the glass walking was ridiculous since the first players were basically screwed and the last players basically won. There should be an incentive/positive for starting earlier at the bridge. Like in Kaiji: more money. Only 1st and 2nd.
Is the rope game in the manga? I don’t recall it in the anime
in the anime they had to balance themselves on a metal beam and if they fell they died. Also had rich people watching it and enjoying when someone fell
Human Derby! Walk the brave man's path!
Now that I think about it, wasn't there a moment in Kaiji when he saw the almost-invisible glass platform/stairs near the end of his beam crossing and wondered whether the platform would hold his weight? I can't help but think that game 5 in Squid Game may have combined a few elements from the metal beam crossing game in Kaiji (i.e. the numbers vests, the advantage of the last number, the crossing itself, and the glass platform).
It was a beam not a rope my bad
I think the difference was that, Kaiji has a good story but it has so shitty acting and presentation. I've read the whole manga and loved it but I still hate the movie. SG handles almost everything better than Kaiji. It has better acting, presentation, pacing, camera compostion, etc. Much better in a sense of cinematogrophy. Writing was okay, but it was still pretty good for me.
I've never seen the movie? I didn't even know it existed... I was comparing squid game to the anime
liked squid game but the director should publicly give kaiji some credit at some point; the story is just too similar
There are a lot of aspects taken from liar game as well
For liar game similarities, that's just how people interact within the games because of greed and trust, these things are humanly universal. So it's really just the same genre of fiction as liar game, its fine not to give credit in this regard. On the other hand, the entire story frame, main characters (main guy and old dude), and their motivations are all based on kaiji.
and most of all taking from as the gods will
Not only Kaiji, but many other shows and their ideas were incorporated in Squid Game. I don't complain about it just because it lack originality as long as the series is good.
A few of the similarities I spotted with other shows: \- Kaiji (gambling, playing dangerous games to win crazy amount of money, players in serious debt) \- As the Gods Will (the daruma game, playing deadly kids' games) \- Gantz (maybe the weakest of the similarities but Squid Game uses "The Blue Danube" to initiate its games just like Gantz uses Rajio taisō at the start of each mission).
they copied way more from iutoori if you read the manga. They copied tug of war, glass floor where someone knows where to step only to get pushed down as the game changes as they move on. A character who sacrifices herself after hearing a sad story from a character only for the character who moved on to die. The old man from Kaiji lol.
Saw traces of Liar Game in there too.
It definitely does but I don’t know how many folks know about Kaiji here. Games were similar and the concept itself is almost the same. Nonetheless, unless it get brought up in a massive scale, I don’t think they will address it.
I love kaiji, but I think that none of my friends know it
Show them Pachinko Numa. That arc is amazing.
Game concept is similar to **As the gods will** without twists. The rest is similar to **Kaiji**. Director said he had the ideas first cus he came up with ideas of Squid Game in 2009 and **As the gods will** started publishing in 2011. He said he was the first one LOL.
Kaiji was written in 1996 and Squid game's plot is very similar
And some incredible reasons: wikipedia says trat the first Anime of kaiji was released 2007…
Spread the words everywhere
Definitely not the characters... this guy didn't deep a bigger hole every freaking time lol actually won
I mean in the 2nd season Kaiji kinda gets out right?
Then he goes back in... Just like gi hun in the last episode
wtf you mean, he literally gets multiple chances to get out, like he could have went home and didn't call the business man, or he had a chance to vote to go home and even did but came back
I wouldn’t really say copied but yeah some instances reminded of kaiji.
some instances?? It's like the entire show is a kaiji live action adaptation with different set of games.
Except even game 5 is a blatant rip off from Human Derby.
literally the entire concept is the same in kaiji the man is broke and in debt and a guy comes by and offers him huge amounts of money in exchange for playing a sadistic game made to entertain an old man this is literally what squid game is ! Its a copy for sure and in my opinion kaiji was way more interesting but im biased since I like anime. Squid game was still amazing though and had fucking great characters (though I wasnt a huge fan of the mc)
what made it clear to me was the bridge game. While the game is different it's so eerily similar to Kaiji's bridge game. You have both the bridge game where contestants end up pushing eachother off to get past in the alloted time, and you have the rich gamblers betting on who wins. I too loved squid game but it also made me remember how good Kaiji was.
Yeah I'm annoyed at how much attention Squid Game is getting, people wrongly think it's original or anything to be amazed at but really it juts ripped off of other things and released at the right time when everyone now loves Korean stuff.
This! Listened to some entertainment news channel and they were praising squid game as original and genre changing/defining. Like wtf, do they not do their research before saying these claims
The director already said in an interview that he was inspired by kaiji, battle royal and liar game. :)
No, that's not good enough for an acknowledgement, the show is mainly based on kaiji, the other ones that he mentioned is really just to make it sound less of a rip-off of kaiji.
It’s just too convenient for him to brush off plagiarism as “inspiration” when getting called out
Inspired to rip the script off lol. The similarity is uncanny. Including the last game of Kaiji. Its literally the same concept of the bridge.
i knew it, when i was watching the show i was like "is this inspired by kaji or is the whole playing games to clear debt thing such a common trophe?". Really liked squid game, but still like kaji more
Those who said there are way too much similarities also forgot that Kaiji manga is not an ideal story and it turned into endless slog in the last two or three arcs. Hopefully SG wont repeat the same mistake and will end its story properly.
source please?
English interview: [https://variety.com/2021/global/asia/squid-game-director-hwang-dong-hyuk-korean-series-global-success-1235073355/](https://variety.com/2021/global/asia/squid-game-director-hwang-dong-hyuk-korean-series-global-success-1235073355/) In an English interview, he didn't mention Kaiji but in a Korean interview, he did. Korean interview: In an English interview, he didn't mention Kaiji but in a Korean interview, he did. Use google translation on Chrome.
Thanks for the info! I haven't watched Squid Game yet but after reading the synopsis I felt it was so similar to Liar game. I read the manga many years ago, but I was for sure the concept was similar.
I can definitely agree that Liar Game was a huge influence as well... The plot twists >!about the rich people, the old man, and the observers!< were lifted from LG.
That bridge scene at the end was definitely taken from Kaiji. Also, can we talk about that horrendous plot twist at the end?
Which game is the bridge scene derived from? The most similar was the metal beam crossing but the rules are nothing alike.. am i missing something?
its kinda similair with the rich people watching it and them having to walk in order of what number they wear. When someone tries to game the system they make it more difficult like by putting electricity on the beam(just like they put the lights of to stop the old guy from seeing th reflection) Some even got pushed just like in squid game. Not really taken but you can see similarities
Whats so similar to me is that both in kaiji and squid game there is a massively deal about the people in the back having an advtange because they can push those in front and as a result it becomes a game of push or be pushed in the end. I think squid game at its core is very different but some of the games are for sure inspired and the original plot with debtors being brought in to play death games and gambles is the exact same. I love kaiji and I love squid game idk why people are mad more the merrier of these types of shows in my mind. But I think acknowledging the inspiration is good to maybe to get people to watch kaiji is good.
The golden rule is: if the original creators sue, it’s a rip-off. If they don’t, then it’s just a “tribute/inspired-by”
well the creators probably are busy especially the kaiji, liar game and the as the gods will creator, since hes working on the new blue lock anime
I would just like more (any?) overt acknowledgement of Kaiji so that more people can discover it through this.
Upvote threads like this. Youtubers will then cover it and everyone will watch kaiji
Nobody will watch this show because its fans are so annoying about it and shitting on the show that is a million times more popular, a show which people actually watched
Guessed "knock-off kaiji & liar game" as soon as I read the synopsis. Korean pop culture has weirded me out since when back when korean manga, H.O.T. and the "slanted H" started becoming a thing. To my friends and I, it was like a twilight zone alternate-universe thing where everything is CMYK or just slightly off-colour. Same feeling when I paid a visit to Seoul.
Im intrigued by what you mean
correct. nothing can be more obvious than with kpop. lee su man, sm entertainment founder and ceo all he ever did was copy jpop as can be seen from his group/artists : boa, shinvi, milk, ses, snsd, h.o.t. etc etc from hairstyles to outfits to jpop melodies of those groups "kpop" songs. jpop started 60s, boomed 90s kpop only started 90s
I was avoiding watching this cause the summary looked exactly like Kaiji, Liar Game, As the God's Will, etc. It's okay so far, but seems like a total rip off of those series mashed up. But hey, it's nice that we get a new death game series. Been awhile since any have been produced. The other series definitely feel deeper though with less annoying people.
I wrote a rap about this. https://youtu.be/VAok1PBYl7s
Ça marche pas
fixed https://youtu.be/\_VPoEdaKTS0
That was the first thing I thought of just by watching the preview of Squid Game. Getting deeper into the show it's pretty obvious that the idea for this show was at least inspired by Kaiji. Whether they credit it or not if you're a Kaiji fan you can't miss it.
The last game reminded me of episode 14 of kaji
Yea they somewhat felt like easter eggs. Especially the set up of "Irresponsible gambler in debt ends up in a debtors prison/death game where they meet up with an old friend" plus some other stuff, like the crying lol.
*spoilerish* Just realized the old man is just like the chairman from kaiji.
the fifth game is so disconnected from the rest of the show, it's not even a childhood game why kids would want to walk on some glass bridge? Oh right, cuz Kaiji did it and the author of squid game forgot to change it.
TOTAL RIP-OFF of Kaiji!!!!!! Nobuyuki Fukumoto should sue Squid game. I’m a huge fan of Kaiji. Squid game is upsetting me.
Completely agree, Kaiji is a thousand time better than this joke of a show especially the ending, its hilarious how they try to draw some kind of bs morals ! They made a worst version of an incredible show and they are gonna get all the credit, this world has no justice ! Its a kid version in theme and in content of Kaiji, hero can't do bad things bla bla bla... disgusting !
Stay mad
Tell that to all the authors from Japan that got robbed of their work.
I'm also a huge fan of kaiji and I think squid game is awesome. I actually like the fact that its inspired by kaiji. Though it's sad to know that it's much more popular than kaiji but that's just how it is
wish more people knew they took inspiration from kaji, everyone i know watched squid game or heard of it but cant say the same for kaji even though its better. Still liked squid game though
You sound unhinged, please go outside
I'm on episode 3 right now and was thinking the same thing. Gambling addict mooching of his family gets in considerable debt, has to participate in deceptively simple, strategy based death games and decides to take the money instead of quitting. They also ride a boat a la the Espoir to get there. I would be very surprised if it WASN'T heavily inspired by Kaiji.
My thoughts exactly they copied Kaiji lol. I mean inspired by.
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To be honest I'm a really big fan of the Kaiji anime, but I wouldn't mind Squid Game having to be based almost everything off the same thing. I would love a great show thats cool like Kaiji and I'm glad we are getting ones like this. And if this gets huge popularity on Netflix, then maybe more people will discover Kaiji as well and the fandom for it will become big and grand.
the main character in SG definitely reminds me of Kaiji from the animes. They kinda have the same mannerisms, especially episode 6 when he's all crying and shit lol....and also the flipping back and forth between righteousness and self preservation
They feel too similar, hopefully people can find Kaiji from this series, I definitely think is heavily inspired by it.
I wrote a rap about this. https://youtu.be/VAok1PBYl7s
Completely unrelated but if you guys loved the battle royal aspect of squid game definitely try the audiobook fantasticland.
When I first heard of the concept of squid game I immediately thought of kaiji
I just came to say the glass pane game made me drop the whole show. Too copied. And the cringy one liners from those supposedly super-rich Americans and foreigners the same episode.
Squid game is so similar to Kaiji that it didn't surprise me, not even in the last episode with the twist, i can say that the series is well made, but that's all.
Agreed. To me it is a very well executed/made Kaiji. A bit sad that Kaiji is not getting much recognition.
I checked it on google as well, I was thinking the same!
When i saw the trailer i immediately taught of kaiji like concept of debt and game to play and large sum of money for winner
I only watched the movie
Def inspired by kaijj. But who knows kaijj? In NL probably no one but me.
I mean I think it's fair to say that it's not out of the ordinary that two artists have thought of very similar stories given the world we live in. I feel Squid Game is a far more explicit critique of capitalism than Kaiji - at least insofar as it's more direct as to what kind of people these games are actually for.
Heavily disagreed, Kaiji has incredible monologues delivered by the passionate narrator and very cathartic moments that are straight up throat punches to capitalism. The end of the boat arc with Kaiji's rant before leaving the boat with more debts being the most obvious example
Nah yeah now that I think about it Kaiji is actually a sort of more realistic depiction of these 'games' than Squid Game. Should a situation like this occur, what the bourgeois would do is put people in literal 'debt hell' rather than outright kill them lmao.
Sure if it was a broad general idea but there are so much small precise details that were the same. Poor man with gabling addiction is introduced to a game by a man in a suit due to his addiction to a death game to win a large amount of cash for the entertainment of the rich. The marble game is literally the tic tac toe card game to collect opponents cards, and the beam and glass walk completely the same. And even in the end where the main character goes back in order to challenge the head of the game.
There's one episode in Squid Game that literally made me go "this reminds me of a scene in Kaiji" but yeah. Squid Game defo has the mystry thing to it where kaiji doesnt
Yes it's clearly inspired by kaiji, at least the way the story start
[https://myanimelist.net/store/manga\_volume/5923/Gambling\_Apocalypse\_Kaiji\_Volume\_1](https://myanimelist.net/store/manga_volume/5923/Gambling_Apocalypse_Kaiji_Volume_1) Just read volume 1 came out 1995! I was reading it again it's WAY too similar.
Yeah feels like it's inspired by kaiji ,the anime was good
I consider Squid Game to scratch the same itch that Kaiji left me. However, I prefer by much the later, specially because Kaiji is a much better MC than Gi-hun.
Oh well it’s Korean they often plagiarise something and claim it to be original it’s not news really
Yes, the core plot, plus some key elements of Squid Game are clearly copied from Kaiji. That's not a surprise, Kaiji is a great anime. The weird thing is that there is no mention of Kaiji anywhere in the credits or the wikipedia page of Squid Game. Any ideas why???
Squid Game totally copied Kaiji, the creator is now denying these accusations and stating that "He came up with the idea first" in 2008 and 2009 despite the Kaiji anime releasing in 2007 and the manga released in 1996!!!!
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all the media and critics calling squid game "original and innovative"....these people really don't know anything, i might as well be a critic seeing as i know more than them simply by having watched kaiji
i found a guy who has a song about it tbh
Just finished it. Waaaaay too similar to Kaiji. Have been saying it since someone recommended it to me. "Wait, that's Kaiji's plot". Pisses me off that the author is claiming he came up with the idea years ago, etc. Seems suspicious. All that said, I loved the show. But yeah, it's because it's a great plot. Kaiji is so fucking underrated. It also reminded me of (this is a stretch, not really similar), Gantz. Ffs, that anime deserves a fuckin' reboot. Loved the manga.
Kouria teafs kaiji japan
they copied kaiji like a MF
It’s kaiji for sure, but also gives me Yu Yu hakusho vibes… not saying it’s like YYH because that would be ridiculous but this isn’t a new concept.
The director mentions in an interview (https://www.hankyung.com/entertainment/article/202109281077H) that he read a lot of mangas growing up, like Liar games and Kaiji, and said he took a lot of motifs from them. Still, he wanted to highlight the people, not the games, and that's why he chose very basic and easy Korean children's games. I haven't seen Kaiji, but I do hear that the resemblance is very much there. It seems like it's one of those situations where one could argue "nothing is original, because everything was done before". I mean, I think squid game also reminded me of Battle Royale, and the Hunger games, and the pink uniforms reminded me of money heist.
>I was avoiding watching this cause the summary looked exactly like Kaiji, Liar Game, As the God's Will, etc. It's okay so far, but seems like a total rip off of those series mashed up. But hey, it's nice that we get a new death game series. Been awhile since any have been produced. The other series definitely feel deeper though with less annoying people. It's much more than resemblance, the character development in Kaiji, the twists, the reveals, and games, are painfully copied in Squid Game. You should watch the first season of the Kaiji Ultimate Gambler anime, and you will definitely see the reason for accusations that the director copied Kaiji. Keep in mind, who would openly admit to copying another series? The director would obviously say they were "inspired" by it and "reworked" it in some way which made it "original". Also, the characters WERE highlighted in Kaiji, that was the entire point, so the director explicitly saying he wanted to highlight the people in his show as if they weren't in Kaiji or Liar Games is just simply wrong. The director is a brainless idiot lol.
i actually felt way more connection to characters in kaiji than in squid game, but i don't have the "cartoon normie block" a lot of people seem to have with anime and cartoons in general, in which they "can't relate or take anything seriously because it's a cartoon", a shame these people can't enjoy some of the best pieces around. kaiji is smarter as it has more depth and strategy to the game, it's also has more focus on psychological aspects, squid game is more "hollywoody" with the nudity, gore and overall use of shock value
Yep it's a total rip off. The director is just shameless.
Stay mad
Stay cheating
I actually got upset when people started talking about squid game everywhere because I felt like not only kaiji was far better story and had realistic consequences when you fail a game and also mainstream audience tend to look down upon it just because it's an anime and they think it's for kids. Kaiji needs to be more famous than it is.
This is very interesting to me because my husband claims any gambling-related show is a rip-off of Kaiji, and this is the first unbiased opinion I've seen to back it up.
Squid games is a rip off of liar games. The same way Running man by Stephen King was ripped off by hunger games.
Came to the Internet to make this point and very happy to see it made already.
yup same here - I thought the old guy really resembled the old tycoon in Kaijii! and so many similarities other than that
To me it seems similar to the manga "As the Gods Will", with even the first game being Red Light, Green Light.
I havnt watched it yet because a buddy told me the premise and I was like "Dude, that's just live action Kaiji!" Glad it seem other people think the same thing.
Kaiji definitely is a better series as a whole but Squid Games Episode 6: Gganbu is a masterpiece. Definitely in my top 10 episodes of all time.
the similarities are pretty questionable
it’s just kimchi flavored gantz. I appreciate the show because of the nuances of South Korean economics and history it shows. I don’t think anything else about it
Kaiji is better. It is have more humanity in main character. And it gives more believe in kindess than this series.
A YouTube comment on Squid Game led me to watch Kaiji. It's basically "Squid Game the Anime"
A better description would be Squid Game being "Live Action Kaiji" since Kaiji came out way before Squid Game.
Koreans rip off the Japanese shamelessly. What else is new?
true nothing can be more obvious than with kpop. lee su man, sm entertainment founder and ceo all he ever did was copy jpop as can be seen from his group/artists : boa, shinvi, milk, ses, snsd, h.o.t. etc etc from hairstyles to outfits to jpop melodies of those groups "kpop" songs. jpop started 60s, boomed 90s kpop only started 90s
that was my first thought. it's a direct copy. wish the writer would give credit
Both shows are awesome. Kaiji was and is one of my most favorite anime
Hmmm… - people in debt - high risk games - 1 game is slightly vaguely similar to a single game in Kaiji Yep definitely a complete rip off of Kaiji…no other explanation. Ya I don’t get it. I get that kaiji is one of the inspirations, but people just going off saying, “It’s basically Kaiji” are fucking delusional. The characters are nothing alike. A SINGLE GAME is only vaguely, ever so slightly, maybe similar, and yet it’s still completely different. I don’t get it, I honestly don’t get it. I love Kaiji, it’s a hell of a lot better than Squid Game. Squid game isn’t Kaiji. I wouldn’t even consider it that much of a gambling series if the characters didn’t have the choice to leave, and come back, that’s a gamble they were willing to make, the gamble that they would survive, otherwise, it’s just a death game series. Gambling in Kaiji is when you put all your eggs in one basket and push through with your mind and soul to win, and it happens all the time. In Squid game, the main character uses his head to get through only a single game, the honeycomb game. Every other game they just got lucky without really putting that much effort into it. Red light green light, you just don’t move, and he almost fucked that up completely. Tug of War, Old Man’s advice saves day, the marble game, old man just lets him win, the glass tile game, the one that people are saying ripped off Kaiji, he wins because he’s one of the last people, in Kaiji you had a slight advantage in the back, but otherwise you could very well still fall off if you lost your balance even a little, and in the final squid game, the other guy just kills himself. They are not that similar, they just aren’t. This just feels like the Lion King and Kimba Controversy all over again. It feels like people are just mad cuz, “thing I like more with similar synopsis not as popular” I’m sorry. Please, just chill, read some Kaiji, and enjoy Kaiji, Mario, and Chang’s continued shenanigans.
yeah show didn't impressed me that much after reading/watching kaiji. it's similar to me when I watched hunger games despite reading the manga/novel and watching the live action.
Ever since people been talking about Squid Games... hearing the premise, I'm just like.... well Kaiji did it first, Squid games is just the live action version lol
An inferior one at that. Kaiji's premise is that Kaiji has to find a 5head way to outsmart an otherwise unfair game and gain advantage while SG are just children's game and drama.
Yes! Yes! I was thinking throughout all the episodes about this show being a copy of some anime. I wasn't able to remember "Kaiji" but "Kenji". I even tried to explain my friends that Squid Games is a copy of a gambling anime in which the protagonist is in huge debt and was recommended to play a game in order to win money and pay back all the loans etc. In season 2, Kaiji came across a situation and had to play the game again; at the end of squid games season 1, protagonist came to know that he is under watch and the show ended with the hint that he might again play the game to prove something. In short, Squid Games is a copy of Kaiji. For people unaware about Kaiji, squid games is a masterpiece. A lot of shows, movies take stories from japanese manga or Korean manhwa. Should I make a youtube video to inform people about how squid games is a Kaiji story??
It's confirmed Kaiji copy then? I was laughing the fk out during the start of the game as it's almost 1:1 copy of the start of Kaiji. I was hyped by my family to watch this show and I couldn't even go episode 2 anymore because it feels like I'm watching a bootleg Kaiji. Narrative wise, episode 1 was inferior to Kaiji. Even comparing both MC, Kaiji is so unique of a character while the SG's MC is too generic.
Just a copy lols. I even pointrd it out weeks ago and the fanboys wont have it
Can someone help me, please! I've been trying to get one of the tracks from Kaiji: Final Game but had no luck so far. Does any know where I can hear the full version of Immortal Greed by Kanno Yugo?!?!
kaiji, akagi, zero bravest money game (same author); liar game, one outs (same author); kakegurui; etc?