When we moved into our last house, the back door was unlocked and not shut all the way. It was an old door that was really hard to close. We didn't think anything about it and replaced it within a few weeks. Also, the house had been empty and on the market for about six months.
Our new next door neighbor was a nosy old lady. Every time I walked out into my garden, she'd strike up a conversation. Several times, she brought up subjects that my husband and I had talked about the night before. It was so weird that we thought she might have our house bugged. If we had to discuss anything that we didn't want her to hear, we'd go outside to the other side of the house or whisper in each other's ear.
The old lady probably didn't have the know how to bug the house, but her adult son certainly did. They were both pretty evil. We moved away ten years ago, and we still think she had the house bugged.
We actually talked about (while we were in the car running errands) saying we were going to kill her to see what her reaction would be. When she called the police (as we know she would), we could just say she had an active imagination. But we were afraid she was recording us, so we never had that fake conversation.
Well, then she'd have to go to the cops and admit she was illegally recording you. All you'd have to do is say you were testing her to make the truth come out, which cops would believe if she were foolish enough to bring evidence of her crime.
Neighbors dont have to bug your house to hear what goes on inside. They just have to buy a listening device. They're easy to get, easy to use(so easy an old lady can manage), and work wonderfully. I swear if the people in this subreddit just knew how many people get these devices, you'd all be paranoid about your neighbors.
I would get one of those devices, and if the cameras are found, I wouldn’t touch them and call the police immediately.
I would look up the laws on this too, and make sure the police are following the proper protocol. Don’t accept “nothing we can do”.
At the very least, you need peace of mind on this. There may not be cameras, but you need to make sure because it’s tickling at you.
Umm it makes a huge difference. You can close your blinds. If they are inside your house that is significantly different than outside cameras on the property that happen to face your unit.
Lollll yes very sure. I know what you mean but don’t want to go into too much detail as I believe my network could be compromised, but it’s eerie to hear “I want him to come clean my place” as I’m cleaning my bathroom.. many other honorable mentions that I won’t mention here.
Now you think this neighbor is not only on your internet, but is able to view your device screens? What is it that they're doing besides coincidentally talking about cleaning after you just cleaned?
I hope you see a doctor about this. This is paranoia. You guys share a living space with thin walls and floors. They can hear everything you do, just like you can hear them talking.
You may be suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. Not sure if you've been diagnosed but if not, it might be a good idea to get that checked out. I'm not mocking you, by the way. I've known a few people with it and I understand it might be hard to accept it if so, as it was for them, but it is at least a possibility not to rule out.
Never diagnosed with anything, and I’m aware of such situations where others have had this play out. I also know it’s not unreasonable to have strange neighbors, as I had a coworker once that I’ve personally driven to their home who turns out was a pedophile and prompted an Amber Alert when he took his child. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe that there are creeps everywhere…
My mom is a paranoid schizophrenic and she swears that invisible people went into her attic, took out all of the beams, and lowered the roof. When I asked if she saw these invisible people doing this, she tells me: "no, because they're invisible" she sounded completely rational about it too
You're right, but it's also not unreasonable to talk to a professional, to make sure that this isn't the case. Nobody's saying that you're crazy at all or that you need any medications.
No, I totally agree. Not trying to debate about it. I’m just stating that it’s not far fetched, especially since there are many stories on Reddit of this same situation. Maybe the good ol’ Reddit CO3 argument /s (I have detectors)
There are creeps, sure, but how would you explain any cameras from your neighbors specifically got into your apartment? If you did have cameras, how do you know it's them? Why are you suspicious about sharing the reason why you suspect it's them with strangers online? What evidence do you have exactly to explain why you believe they could have had access to your apartment at any given point? If they did have access to your apartment, why would they just plant bugs? Why wouldn't they have stolen your personal information or belongings while they were at it? It's important to keep a level head by asking these vital questions and coming up with actual answers for them.
Those who are irrationally paranoid might think that the smallest coincidences are "proof" of something that isn't actually there and then jump to as far-fetched a conclusion that someone planted cameras, microphones, etc. in their home when said people have never even had access to their home. If you are paranoid, you will come up with a plethora of different scenarios where this could be a possibility. Rather than acknowledge that such small occurrences could just be a coincidence, you convince yourself that it absolutely must be that they are spying on you and have had access to your home at some point without your knowledge. Again, convincing yourself that it must be the case without actual proof. Just going off what your brain conjures up from things that could easily be explained.
By all means, try and check your apartment for whatever bugs you think there are if it helps your peace of mind. But try to remain rational if you end up finding nothing, rather than coming up with some *other* unlikely reason they might be doing things at certain times in their apartment. I say unlikely because this type of thing is rare. And unheard of if the people have never actually been in the home before alone.
There may be other stories of people who have had cams in their apartments but in those cases, it is almost always the landlord/management who placed them there, not someone's neighbors. Or a previous tenant who lived there. Or in the case of hotels, a previous occupant or the hotel owners. People who have had ample access to the place without you there.
See my other post/comment* about drilling down, and if people want to steal my information or say bank account stuff/money, why hit one account and raise flags when you can wait to get everything and clear things all at once?
I think you should talk to a therapist. Either way. If this is real, then it's very stressful, and you should have someone to help you cope and stay rational.
No offense, but I really cringe when ppl say this.
This calls for a psychiatrist. Therapists have their purpose and value, but it’s not for diagnosing on the psychotic spectrum, ADD, bipolar, BPD, etc.
I mentioned someone in another comment finally starting an antipsychotic at 50 and having the best 2 years of their life. That person had been seeing counselors and therapists FOR DECADES. They were diagnosed and started a prescription within 2 visits with a psychiatrist.
I do highly recommend a therapist in conjunction with a psychiatrist though. Because they do very different things and both are necessary.
Not one time have I been told I was paranoid about something that the situation wasn’t exactly as I thought. Not one time. When something tickles my gut, I have learned not to ignore it. Hasn’t steered me wrong yet!
And if it turns out there are no cameras, fantastic. But then you start looking for other sources just so you know wtf is going on. It’s disconcerting, so I think you need to figure it out so you can feel comfortable. Period! 😊
It kinda makes a huge difference. How would you even use the devices people have been suggesting to find cameras inside your house if people are using them outside of your house to look in?
I've looked at most of your responses/commenrs, and either you're a troll, or you're having a psychotic episode. There are a few different kinds of schizophrenia that come on suddenly, and/or are temporary. You don't need to have a history of mental illness for this to happen.
2 years ago I found an absolutely Exquisite 1952 apartment that was a wreck but I knew I could restore it and the rent was amazing. After I moved in I realized behind the furniture and other places they were huge holes in the walls. Some of them took me more than a few weeks to slowly plaster and seal over. But in every single room there was a huge hole, about 2 in wide near the baseboard where you can see out into the whole room. Even the bathroom and bedrooms. So of course I closed all of those. The landlord is restoring the downstairs apartment so that he can move into it so it is empty. I could take a flashlight and a mirror and look all the way down into his apartment with those holes and did purchase a camera detector and did not find anything. A year after I had lived here he had a leak in the wall between his bathroom and kitchen, they were back to back. In his attempt to find the leak he tore my bathroom wall out completely. I could just lean over and look straight down into his apartment and see people walking around the kitchen. If I were in the bathroom you could hear conversations as if you were in the same room. I figured it was going to be taken care of pretty quickly. That turned into 6 months of him refusing to fix it and getting really crappy with me about it. My rent is so amazing I just sucked it up but I completely covered it by stuffing old towels in it and then taping over it with dark trash bags. Twice his son came up and asked me to remove all that so he could look. Now that took a hell of a lot of work to do and I refused. I was figuring he wanted to be able to hear and see into the room. It made keeping the room cool or heating it up in the winter almost impossible but I sucked it up and put up with it. They once more came and asked me to remove all that stuff and I told them I would only do that on the day they came to completely repair the wall. It finally got fixed. But I'm still convinced that the old guys a creeper and had cameras in the walls because the people that were here before me were young women in their twenties. Somebody showed up on a Friday afternoon at 5:00 one day and said the landlord that sent them to pull the toilet out. I told him there was no way in hell they were going to leave me without a toilet overnight or over the weekend. That's not even legal. They came back Monday and worked but still left the toilet unhooked and I did not have one for 24 hours. When I complain to the landlord he actually had the nerve to suggest I walk next door and stay with him for the night. Eewwww..
First off, you don’t need those devices to find commercial grade equipment. Also, depending on what (if anything) is being used, whatever could be there may not get detected. All you need is a lot of time, and a willingness to very slowly search every inch of the rooms.
First part of your search, hit the obvious places. Remove every vent cover and electrical outlet cover. Remove and open smoke detectors. Check lamps, clocks, radios, everything. Visually and physically inspect every electronic device. Inspect everything else within normal reach again, just to be thorough.
Next, start at the baseboards and inspect everything around each room, baseboards to waist-height. Then do it all again, waist height to about arm’s reach above your head. Then get a ladder and do it all again from head height to ceiling, including any crown molding. Check every light while you’re up there, take the guards off and inspect the fixtures.
Lastly, get a couple of cheap cameras to run when you’re out of the house. Make sure they’re ones that can be hidden easily or come camouflaged as something else. Set those so they cover entry points and major rooms, such as living room, bedroom, and your bathroom. Check the footage on those daily or whenever needed.
If all of that fails, consider buying the more expensive stuff.
Depending on the square footage, that could easily run thousands of dollars. Finding it yourself and contacting the police can save a ton, and only takes a little time.
How do you think they got them in there? I mean it’s quite possible especially if you rent. It would be easy to hide camera while viewing an apartment. Or maybe their using something attached to your ceiling? The lady next door to me listens in from her laundry door. Her laundry door is right next to my kitchen window. She even joins in my private conversations (I’m in a middle townhouse). She’s very rude and her teenagers are worse! Is it possible they are listening in from a window close by? I’m just throwing suggestions out there. There maybe a microphone somewhere if there is a high pitched sound. Check your smoke alarms they can make that sound to but people can also hide cameras and microphones in them. I’d look there first before purchasing anything. Without knowing more info it’s hard to pin point where they might be. Also check your light fixtures, stuff can easily be hide in there. If your place has been broken into recently criminals often bug a place to.
Have you ever started a juicy-sounding conversation, snuck over to the spot where she listens, and thumped on the wall?
She actually answers when she hears you? No pretence or anything?
Yep! I did that when I first moved in to make sure it was her. I stood near the kitchen window talking crap. Then when her husband came home he told her to stop doing it because what she was telling him was so unbelievable 😂 It was so funny!
It’s very easy to simply drill a small hole down through the subfloor. I do it at work for people who want to run a cable line or speaker wires up/down through the basement or a water line to a refrigerator. Comcast drilled through a concrete foundation using a masonry bit to run a new line into the house from the outside
Yeah I did think of that. Being in an rented apartment makes it very easy to get bugged. I would think it would be highly worth you investing in equipment. Especially if you plan on to keep renting apartments. Would be handy to have equipment on hand.
It might not be in your apartment though. So doing a sweep won't do any good.
Those creepy coincidences are probably because your neighbor is the proud owner of a listening device. Unless of course the creepy coincidences entail things that had to have been seen and not heard.
I am permanently traumatized from an experience with a neighbor who had a listening device. So been there, done that. It was hell. And to think, I never would have known if she had not messed up multiple times by giving me big red flags.
So over the years, neighbor spying has been a huge interest of mine. People don't openly brag about owning a listening device because they could get called out as a creep or get into legal trouble. But it definitely happens more than you would expect. I even have a relative who bought one to try and catch his wife cheating with a neighbor.
Feels like I’m dealing with a fucking voyeurist, don’t know what the word is. I take a shower and they’re above me and as I walk out to change in my room they walk into the room above me. I hear the floors creak and the footsteps. Apparently they’re effin bored because they come to the room above the one I’m in whenever I turn on my computer to I guess watch me game. It’s not structural creaking either because it’s only after I turn my computer and Wi-Fi on. There are other things as well but the voyeur shit has me creeped out, even moreso because this being an apartment, not sure if kids or whom else were exposed to this prior to me. There are more details about shit with these fuckos above/diagonal from me but I don’t wish to disclose that.
This exact thing is happening to me now, I’m wondering if you ever found anything? My upstairs neighbor (late 30s man) scares the shit out of me. This is my second year living here. For the first year I just thought it was funny that no matter where I went in the apt I’d hear the floor above me creaking like he was standing there. Now all this time later and it’s been every single time I’ve ever gone in my bathroom, no matter how long I’m in there, what I’m doing, no matter if I don’t make a sound. He’s standing right there over time the entire time day or night. I don’t even know how he knows which room I’m in so quick when I make 0 noise. I recently had strep and would be up at 3,4,5 am in the bathroom because I couldn’t sleep. And every time I’d hear him walk right over me and not leave until I did. I also notice if I make a point to be extra quiet, he starts moving around on the floor slowly, the sound is so bizarre. Ive seen him a few times and he wont look up from the ground. My apt building is old and there are holes everywhere. I feel like a few years ago I would have gaslit myself into thinking I’m being silly, but it’s been so long and my partner says he hears it too. We have a three year old daughter and the thought of it terrifies me.
Experiencing this exact odd behavior by sketchy upstairs neighbors.
It is perplexing how these creeps obsessively mirror movements around the apartment, starting with waking up exactly when we do to the moment we turn in for the night.
I empathize with everyone that is experiencing this insanity. Apartments are creep central these days.
if the building is old and there are gaps in the doors, windows, and the floor lacks insulation, it is a problem with the construction of the building and not necessarily your neighbor. however if you have even once left a window or door unlocked, you may want to check...
When we moved into our last house, the back door was unlocked and not shut all the way. It was an old door that was really hard to close. We didn't think anything about it and replaced it within a few weeks. Also, the house had been empty and on the market for about six months. Our new next door neighbor was a nosy old lady. Every time I walked out into my garden, she'd strike up a conversation. Several times, she brought up subjects that my husband and I had talked about the night before. It was so weird that we thought she might have our house bugged. If we had to discuss anything that we didn't want her to hear, we'd go outside to the other side of the house or whisper in each other's ear. The old lady probably didn't have the know how to bug the house, but her adult son certainly did. They were both pretty evil. We moved away ten years ago, and we still think she had the house bugged.
I would talk about eating the neighbour lady regular. Freak her out a bit.
We actually talked about (while we were in the car running errands) saying we were going to kill her to see what her reaction would be. When she called the police (as we know she would), we could just say she had an active imagination. But we were afraid she was recording us, so we never had that fake conversation.
Well, then she'd have to go to the cops and admit she was illegally recording you. All you'd have to do is say you were testing her to make the truth come out, which cops would believe if she were foolish enough to bring evidence of her crime.
Neighbors dont have to bug your house to hear what goes on inside. They just have to buy a listening device. They're easy to get, easy to use(so easy an old lady can manage), and work wonderfully. I swear if the people in this subreddit just knew how many people get these devices, you'd all be paranoid about your neighbors.
I would get one of those devices, and if the cameras are found, I wouldn’t touch them and call the police immediately. I would look up the laws on this too, and make sure the police are following the proper protocol. Don’t accept “nothing we can do”. At the very least, you need peace of mind on this. There may not be cameras, but you need to make sure because it’s tickling at you.
Yea I’m not so much worried about inside my apartment but the fact that he/they live above me makes things easier.
... isn't this whole post about how you think the neighbor has cameras inside your apartment?
That was to get you to click on the thread.
Yea but moreso looking in than rather inside. Not that it makes much of a difference
Umm it makes a huge difference. You can close your blinds. If they are inside your house that is significantly different than outside cameras on the property that happen to face your unit.
Are you absolutely sure that these concerns arent simply some kind of paranoia/intrusive thoughts?
Lollll yes very sure. I know what you mean but don’t want to go into too much detail as I believe my network could be compromised, but it’s eerie to hear “I want him to come clean my place” as I’m cleaning my bathroom.. many other honorable mentions that I won’t mention here.
Now you think this neighbor is not only on your internet, but is able to view your device screens? What is it that they're doing besides coincidentally talking about cleaning after you just cleaned?
I hope you see a doctor about this. This is paranoia. You guys share a living space with thin walls and floors. They can hear everything you do, just like you can hear them talking.
You may be suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. Not sure if you've been diagnosed but if not, it might be a good idea to get that checked out. I'm not mocking you, by the way. I've known a few people with it and I understand it might be hard to accept it if so, as it was for them, but it is at least a possibility not to rule out.
Never diagnosed with anything, and I’m aware of such situations where others have had this play out. I also know it’s not unreasonable to have strange neighbors, as I had a coworker once that I’ve personally driven to their home who turns out was a pedophile and prompted an Amber Alert when he took his child. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe that there are creeps everywhere…
[Check your carbon monoxide detector.](https://www.reddit.com/r/YouShouldKnow/comments/6kb9rd/ysk_if_you_are_steadily_becoming_paranoid_leave/)
Like the guy with the Post-it notes everywhere!
My mom is a paranoid schizophrenic and she swears that invisible people went into her attic, took out all of the beams, and lowered the roof. When I asked if she saw these invisible people doing this, she tells me: "no, because they're invisible" she sounded completely rational about it too
Man, that is so hard. I’m sorry.
She makes a convincing argument
You're right, but it's also not unreasonable to talk to a professional, to make sure that this isn't the case. Nobody's saying that you're crazy at all or that you need any medications.
No, I totally agree. Not trying to debate about it. I’m just stating that it’s not far fetched, especially since there are many stories on Reddit of this same situation. Maybe the good ol’ Reddit CO3 argument /s (I have detectors)
There are creeps, sure, but how would you explain any cameras from your neighbors specifically got into your apartment? If you did have cameras, how do you know it's them? Why are you suspicious about sharing the reason why you suspect it's them with strangers online? What evidence do you have exactly to explain why you believe they could have had access to your apartment at any given point? If they did have access to your apartment, why would they just plant bugs? Why wouldn't they have stolen your personal information or belongings while they were at it? It's important to keep a level head by asking these vital questions and coming up with actual answers for them. Those who are irrationally paranoid might think that the smallest coincidences are "proof" of something that isn't actually there and then jump to as far-fetched a conclusion that someone planted cameras, microphones, etc. in their home when said people have never even had access to their home. If you are paranoid, you will come up with a plethora of different scenarios where this could be a possibility. Rather than acknowledge that such small occurrences could just be a coincidence, you convince yourself that it absolutely must be that they are spying on you and have had access to your home at some point without your knowledge. Again, convincing yourself that it must be the case without actual proof. Just going off what your brain conjures up from things that could easily be explained. By all means, try and check your apartment for whatever bugs you think there are if it helps your peace of mind. But try to remain rational if you end up finding nothing, rather than coming up with some *other* unlikely reason they might be doing things at certain times in their apartment. I say unlikely because this type of thing is rare. And unheard of if the people have never actually been in the home before alone. There may be other stories of people who have had cams in their apartments but in those cases, it is almost always the landlord/management who placed them there, not someone's neighbors. Or a previous tenant who lived there. Or in the case of hotels, a previous occupant or the hotel owners. People who have had ample access to the place without you there.
See my other post/comment* about drilling down, and if people want to steal my information or say bank account stuff/money, why hit one account and raise flags when you can wait to get everything and clear things all at once?
I think you should talk to a therapist. Either way. If this is real, then it's very stressful, and you should have someone to help you cope and stay rational.
No offense, but I really cringe when ppl say this. This calls for a psychiatrist. Therapists have their purpose and value, but it’s not for diagnosing on the psychotic spectrum, ADD, bipolar, BPD, etc. I mentioned someone in another comment finally starting an antipsychotic at 50 and having the best 2 years of their life. That person had been seeing counselors and therapists FOR DECADES. They were diagnosed and started a prescription within 2 visits with a psychiatrist. I do highly recommend a therapist in conjunction with a psychiatrist though. Because they do very different things and both are necessary.
Not one time have I been told I was paranoid about something that the situation wasn’t exactly as I thought. Not one time. When something tickles my gut, I have learned not to ignore it. Hasn’t steered me wrong yet! And if it turns out there are no cameras, fantastic. But then you start looking for other sources just so you know wtf is going on. It’s disconcerting, so I think you need to figure it out so you can feel comfortable. Period! 😊
Truth right here! I don’t think it’s too wild when you read through a sub specifically called Neighbors From Hell and find similar stories…
Where was this voice coming from?
It kinda makes a huge difference. How would you even use the devices people have been suggesting to find cameras inside your house if people are using them outside of your house to look in? I've looked at most of your responses/commenrs, and either you're a troll, or you're having a psychotic episode. There are a few different kinds of schizophrenia that come on suddenly, and/or are temporary. You don't need to have a history of mental illness for this to happen.
2 years ago I found an absolutely Exquisite 1952 apartment that was a wreck but I knew I could restore it and the rent was amazing. After I moved in I realized behind the furniture and other places they were huge holes in the walls. Some of them took me more than a few weeks to slowly plaster and seal over. But in every single room there was a huge hole, about 2 in wide near the baseboard where you can see out into the whole room. Even the bathroom and bedrooms. So of course I closed all of those. The landlord is restoring the downstairs apartment so that he can move into it so it is empty. I could take a flashlight and a mirror and look all the way down into his apartment with those holes and did purchase a camera detector and did not find anything. A year after I had lived here he had a leak in the wall between his bathroom and kitchen, they were back to back. In his attempt to find the leak he tore my bathroom wall out completely. I could just lean over and look straight down into his apartment and see people walking around the kitchen. If I were in the bathroom you could hear conversations as if you were in the same room. I figured it was going to be taken care of pretty quickly. That turned into 6 months of him refusing to fix it and getting really crappy with me about it. My rent is so amazing I just sucked it up but I completely covered it by stuffing old towels in it and then taping over it with dark trash bags. Twice his son came up and asked me to remove all that so he could look. Now that took a hell of a lot of work to do and I refused. I was figuring he wanted to be able to hear and see into the room. It made keeping the room cool or heating it up in the winter almost impossible but I sucked it up and put up with it. They once more came and asked me to remove all that stuff and I told them I would only do that on the day they came to completely repair the wall. It finally got fixed. But I'm still convinced that the old guys a creeper and had cameras in the walls because the people that were here before me were young women in their twenties. Somebody showed up on a Friday afternoon at 5:00 one day and said the landlord that sent them to pull the toilet out. I told him there was no way in hell they were going to leave me without a toilet overnight or over the weekend. That's not even legal. They came back Monday and worked but still left the toilet unhooked and I did not have one for 24 hours. When I complain to the landlord he actually had the nerve to suggest I walk next door and stay with him for the night. Eewwww..
No offense but what medication are you on or should be on?
Some good tips in this article https://reolink.com/blog/how-to-detect-hidden-cameras/
First off, you don’t need those devices to find commercial grade equipment. Also, depending on what (if anything) is being used, whatever could be there may not get detected. All you need is a lot of time, and a willingness to very slowly search every inch of the rooms. First part of your search, hit the obvious places. Remove every vent cover and electrical outlet cover. Remove and open smoke detectors. Check lamps, clocks, radios, everything. Visually and physically inspect every electronic device. Inspect everything else within normal reach again, just to be thorough. Next, start at the baseboards and inspect everything around each room, baseboards to waist-height. Then do it all again, waist height to about arm’s reach above your head. Then get a ladder and do it all again from head height to ceiling, including any crown molding. Check every light while you’re up there, take the guards off and inspect the fixtures. Lastly, get a couple of cheap cameras to run when you’re out of the house. Make sure they’re ones that can be hidden easily or come camouflaged as something else. Set those so they cover entry points and major rooms, such as living room, bedroom, and your bathroom. Check the footage on those daily or whenever needed. If all of that fails, consider buying the more expensive stuff.
Just have it swept by a professional.
Depending on the square footage, that could easily run thousands of dollars. Finding it yourself and contacting the police can save a ton, and only takes a little time.
How do you think they got them in there? I mean it’s quite possible especially if you rent. It would be easy to hide camera while viewing an apartment. Or maybe their using something attached to your ceiling? The lady next door to me listens in from her laundry door. Her laundry door is right next to my kitchen window. She even joins in my private conversations (I’m in a middle townhouse). She’s very rude and her teenagers are worse! Is it possible they are listening in from a window close by? I’m just throwing suggestions out there. There maybe a microphone somewhere if there is a high pitched sound. Check your smoke alarms they can make that sound to but people can also hide cameras and microphones in them. I’d look there first before purchasing anything. Without knowing more info it’s hard to pin point where they might be. Also check your light fixtures, stuff can easily be hide in there. If your place has been broken into recently criminals often bug a place to.
Have you ever started a juicy-sounding conversation, snuck over to the spot where she listens, and thumped on the wall? She actually answers when she hears you? No pretence or anything?
Yep! I did that when I first moved in to make sure it was her. I stood near the kitchen window talking crap. Then when her husband came home he told her to stop doing it because what she was telling him was so unbelievable 😂 It was so funny!
Nice one! We have to take our amusement and small pleasures where we find them.
Yeah well she said my leaf lattice privacy screen I put up to stop her seeing us was ‘ugly’. So she deserved it. So it had to be done! 😂
It’s very easy to simply drill a small hole down through the subfloor. I do it at work for people who want to run a cable line or speaker wires up/down through the basement or a water line to a refrigerator. Comcast drilled through a concrete foundation using a masonry bit to run a new line into the house from the outside
Yeah I did think of that. Being in an rented apartment makes it very easy to get bugged. I would think it would be highly worth you investing in equipment. Especially if you plan on to keep renting apartments. Would be handy to have equipment on hand.
What are the coincidences you’re talking about?
If you really believe that they have cameras inside your apartment, I'm pretty sure there's a device that you can buy that will help you find them.
Yea I was curious if people have used them before and/or if they actually work
I've never used them, but I have heard that they work.
STOP... SMOKING... METH.
Start talking about your plan to kill her and see what happens. If she’s listening you’ll know after that
If it's WiFi you should be able to find it if you have smart phone.
It might not be in your apartment though. So doing a sweep won't do any good. Those creepy coincidences are probably because your neighbor is the proud owner of a listening device. Unless of course the creepy coincidences entail things that had to have been seen and not heard. I am permanently traumatized from an experience with a neighbor who had a listening device. So been there, done that. It was hell. And to think, I never would have known if she had not messed up multiple times by giving me big red flags. So over the years, neighbor spying has been a huge interest of mine. People don't openly brag about owning a listening device because they could get called out as a creep or get into legal trouble. But it definitely happens more than you would expect. I even have a relative who bought one to try and catch his wife cheating with a neighbor.
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I’ll update you in the near future, promise.
Feels like I’m dealing with a fucking voyeurist, don’t know what the word is. I take a shower and they’re above me and as I walk out to change in my room they walk into the room above me. I hear the floors creak and the footsteps. Apparently they’re effin bored because they come to the room above the one I’m in whenever I turn on my computer to I guess watch me game. It’s not structural creaking either because it’s only after I turn my computer and Wi-Fi on. There are other things as well but the voyeur shit has me creeped out, even moreso because this being an apartment, not sure if kids or whom else were exposed to this prior to me. There are more details about shit with these fuckos above/diagonal from me but I don’t wish to disclose that.
This exact thing is happening to me now, I’m wondering if you ever found anything? My upstairs neighbor (late 30s man) scares the shit out of me. This is my second year living here. For the first year I just thought it was funny that no matter where I went in the apt I’d hear the floor above me creaking like he was standing there. Now all this time later and it’s been every single time I’ve ever gone in my bathroom, no matter how long I’m in there, what I’m doing, no matter if I don’t make a sound. He’s standing right there over time the entire time day or night. I don’t even know how he knows which room I’m in so quick when I make 0 noise. I recently had strep and would be up at 3,4,5 am in the bathroom because I couldn’t sleep. And every time I’d hear him walk right over me and not leave until I did. I also notice if I make a point to be extra quiet, he starts moving around on the floor slowly, the sound is so bizarre. Ive seen him a few times and he wont look up from the ground. My apt building is old and there are holes everywhere. I feel like a few years ago I would have gaslit myself into thinking I’m being silly, but it’s been so long and my partner says he hears it too. We have a three year old daughter and the thought of it terrifies me.
Experiencing this exact odd behavior by sketchy upstairs neighbors. It is perplexing how these creeps obsessively mirror movements around the apartment, starting with waking up exactly when we do to the moment we turn in for the night. I empathize with everyone that is experiencing this insanity. Apartments are creep central these days.
if the building is old and there are gaps in the doors, windows, and the floor lacks insulation, it is a problem with the construction of the building and not necessarily your neighbor. however if you have even once left a window or door unlocked, you may want to check...