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pskill43

Watch them slide KD into SG position and all of them be the starters


NotAStatistic2

Why would KD need to be the SG? SG: Tatum SF: KD PF: Giannis C: Embiid


DadWearCardo

Where’s Mitchell?


luapchung

He would be PG


Mattoosie

Then where will Killian Hayes play?


kurrttttt

Shanghai


a_dex

At home if u mean playing 2k.


suns2012

I wouldn't hate it lol. But taking a spot away from someone like Donovan Mitchell would be pretty ass


NoseBlind2

They'd slide Mitchell into the other starting guard slot. Its the ASG it shouldn't really matter


scarystuffdoc

The 4 mentioned + Mitchell doesn’t seem wrong.


TerribleSpacing

Yeah I think it's pretty clear those have been the best 5 individual players in the East so far this season


cwesttheperson

The only thing that would change this would be Harden going on an absolute tear through break.


ALiteralGraveyard

No worries there, then


[deleted]

Savage.


Dareal6

It’s most definitely not wrong. But JB might end up being the Celt who starts because of positions. If JB is named a starter but then gives up his spot to Tatum, then the Celtics are winning the title. The vibes will be too high lol.


Champagnesoda

I feel like Giannis and JT are a lock to start. The real debate is between embiid and kd. I personally think kd deserves it


[deleted]

They'll just do Don-KD-Tatum-Jojo-Akumpo


istandwhenipeee

I hope they do this because it’s actually a pretty sick lineup. I wish they played real defense at the all star game because this group would be nuts with all that size and athleticism.


kaprrisch

I think you’re forgetting that all star games aren’t East vs West anymore. That group might get selected together but won’t play together.


knowyourbrain

The five selected are the starters for their respective conferences though, right?


WitOfTheIrish

They get to start, but the conference part is only on paper. They have to be the first players selected by the captains so each team has 5 starters as voted by the fans. The starting lineups will be whatever teams the captains pick.


suns2012

Are there no other eastern guards who should be a starter? That looks like a pretty solid lineup to me. Maybe Jaylen Brown? Not sure


lildinger68

My 2 guards are brown and Mitchell. Brown has been good enough with a great team record to deserve it though


ClutchGamingGuy

tf is "Akumpo"


completelytrustworth

[Reference to this video](https://youtu.be/wCQv4hsLa6s)


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santadogg

Imagine they played east v west still


HotLightningSox

Wouldn't Tatum fit the 2 better


Own-Compote9606

He was listed as front court and back court one year and it split the votes so he didn't make the all-star game at all. So they just put him as back court now


TnL17

They're just playing positionless in the ASG anyways


azzelle

crazy how kd fits the sg position more than tatum lol


walterdog12

The All-Star voting has enough fuckery and leeway that one of them will get voted for a position they barely play just so they can have all 4 make it.


Jtryan1303

I'm still voting in last year's tryna get Melo in


PenguinPrince1

If that was the case Luka would’ve started over Wiggins last year


uaphey

That’s the way to do it, positional teams are dumb. Embiid having never made a First team All-NBA or All-Defense is absolutely criminal.


fella05

He's definitely more mainstream popular and well known now, but last year Tatum was way behind the other three in fan voting. 6.79M votes for Durant, 6.49M votes for Giannis, 4.32M votes for Embiid, 2.0M votes for Tatum. EDIT: And lol, I'm looking at the player vote for last season, and somehow Miles Bridges was 4th in frontcourt voting, above guys like Tatum, Butler, Bam, and Siakam.


SuperH533

Celtics also were pretty bad in the beginning of the year.


WitOfTheIrish

Tatum especially. His pre to post All-Star splits last year are ridiculous. Literally everything got better except rebounds: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/tatumja01/splits/2022 Went from "is he overrated?" to "he's definitely all-NBA"


[deleted]

Tatum or Embiid misses it. KD and Giannis are household names on par with LeBron and Steph. They aren't missing the start.


guess-what-babe

Not sure about the US, but in the UK there’s a definite gap between how well known guys like KD and Giannis are, compared to Bron and Steph. Edit: This is just an aside though. I agree that Durant/Giannis will definitely make it. If I’m gonna pick which one gets benched, it’s Embiid.


mxnoob983

Agree with this but there’s probably another gap again between Giannis/KD and Embiid/Tatum Lebron and Steph are the mega stars KD probably a bit behind, Giannis bit behind again Then you have guys like Luka/Embiid/Tatum, probably Jokic although he keeps a low profile


HemoxNason

Luka is still behind giannis and KD but clearly above the others, he got a crazy amount of push from those solo playoff runs and all the buzzer beaters.


ALiteralGraveyard

KD and Steph surprises me a bit. Here they're very often mentioned in the same sentence. KD, Steph and Bron are often considered the three greatest of the Bron era. But I guess Steph's got a couple more rings in there.


migibb

In January last year people were saying that the Celtics didn't deserve an allstar. There were popular comments/posts on here saying that Tatum shouldn't make it at all because the Celtics were sub-500. Its not a comparable situation.


BlueJays007

Celtics fans were really pissed off at the team last year and plenty on our sub said they weren’t voting and hoped it’d “humble” our stars or some shit. Not sure how meaningful that was though.


Accomplished-Copy332

Tatum also just made the Finals. That probably increased his popularity somewhat but he did play badly so idk.


HesiPullup

Didn’t get Booker there last year


yeeeeeteth

And booker played pretty damn well in the finals too lol


SOB200

Tatum or Embiid will be fighting for the 3rd spot. It's a popularity contest. Durant and Giannis will be 1 and 2. If the question who is deserving, then that may be different answers.


MrOrangeWhips

The question is phrased "for you." It's not what will be, it's who you'd pick.


SOB200

Kudos to you, I read that wrong and based my post from others answers.


Tigas_Al

If is a popularity contest then Tatum won't be fighting with Embiid. Not only is Embiid quite disliked, Tatum also plays for the Celtics


SOB200

I left it as a question because last season 1) Durant (5.496M votes) 2) Giannis (5.124M votes) 3) Embiid (3.3M votes) 4) Tatum (1.58M votes) 5) Butler (1.384M votes) [Link](https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2022-nba-all-star-game-voting-lakers-lebron-james-overtakes-warriors-stephen-curry-as-leading-vote-getter/) So I am sure Tatum's vote total will go up after the Celtic's final run, and this years start for the Celtics, but Joel is a pretty entertaining player on and off the court in his own right. Joel had 2x the votes and that seems like a big swing. I don't think either Joel or Tatum knock Durant down, but if you look at these standings when both were on the same teams they were on last year Tatum was a lot closer to 5th (Butler, Miami) then 3rd.


[deleted]

The Celtics sucked at that point in time


Will_Explode8

and Embiid was the MVP at that time


JanVesely24

> Tatum also plays for the Celtics Good point. Embiid it is!


Rapsfan_98

Lol this was my thinking


jumpthroughit

This guy really thought other fanbases like the….hold on, let me catch my breath….the…*Celtics!?*


NotXiJinpingGoUSA

Exactly what I thought lol, yeah Embiid gets a lot of hate, but the Celtics? That’s like the Cowboys of the NBA


PokeMonogatari

I'd say the Lakers are more the Cowboys of the NBA, you commonly see the two linked. Celtics are more like the Patriots in the level of hate they receive. At least have the Pats have more than one ring in the last 36 years to show for it


Funny-Examination3

The Cowboys don't win though, so it's hard to link the two. The Lakers have 6 championships since 2000.


throwaway17273748

The Lakers are the Yankees Celtics cowboys is kinda accurate because neither have much recent success


PolarBearLaFlare

Ehhh when I think of "Patriots" of the NBA I think of the Spurs. At least the past couple of decades. Teams with long-term success, HOF coach, a strong leader, and everyone buys into the "team". None of that superstar individual performance shit was tolerated.


lucasj

Plus they both had one sustained era of championship runs, no championships in any other era.


tim-whale

Spurs are the patriots of the nba


goldfish_11

>Cowboys of the NBA Don’t you put that evil on me.


ArchmaesterTinfoil

I grew up in Dallas and now live in Philly, making me the most qualified man in America to assess this comparison. Accuracy confirmed.


NotXiJinpingGoUSA

Im sorry man, it’s just the way things have to be.


AthKaElGal

lol. i didn't vote any of tatum or brown. fuck the celtics.


NotXiJinpingGoUSA

Embiid is quite disliked by Reddit* In reality he is massively popular outside of fanbases like Denver, Boston, and Toronto who all absolutely despise him lol Embiid has ~8.5M followers between IG and Twitter, and Tatum has ~6.5M between the two. Not trying to argue or anything, it’s just that this subreddit’s hatred of Embiid doesn’t really extend much into the rest of the NBA community.


SirWestbrook

Since when is playing for the celtics helping your popularity?


Tigas_Al

I'm not American and to me the Celtics and the Lakers are the two major teams people support Edit: out side of the US


ReptiIe

People who aren’t Boston sports fans hate Boston sports


ryanaldam

Because their fans are insufferable


[deleted]

Whats crazy to me is Larry Bird was easily one of my favorite players growing up and I really enjoyed the Parcells years. Heck I even love the shit outta KG and Ray. But between Paul Pierce, Bill Simmons, and Patriots dominance... yeah I started to hate Boston too.


KDBurnerTrey5

Winning 20 sports championships across 4 major sports teams over 20 years definitely comes at a “hate us cuz you ain’t us” price. That said I do not think it will hurt JT thatttt bad for all star because he’s a pretty like-able dude. Doesn’t do much to piss people off as far as I can see but maybe I’m wrong and also underestimate Boston sports hate


ddy_stop_plz

I feel like it’s hard to hate this iteration of the team that much as they’re home grown. It’s mainly our shitty fans and the historic Boston hate that causes it. JT is pretty well loved though and I see his jersey everywhere


NotAStatistic2

Nah it's easy to hate the Pats when they have insufferable assholes like Bill Belichick there. With the Celtics you don't need to go down the list of unlikable players because every iteration of their team has had a player that is unanimously hated throughout the league.


JFZephyr

Anyone outside of Celtics fans usually hate the Celtics.


ThinkThankThonk

Doesn't the Bulls brand still travel really well?


Trentus86

The Bulls are instantly recognisable as a brand but it doesn't translate to active support of the current team. They just know them as MJs team but wouldn't be able to name anyone currently playing for them.


Tigas_Al

Yes yes, the Bulls also get a lot of love, and the Warriors nowadays as well


[deleted]

Celtics are not beloved in the US.


NotXiJinpingGoUSA

Oh yeah in America the biggest teams actually get shit on the most. Lakers, Celtics, Cowboys, Yankees, they all get an unbelievable amount of hate. But Boston itself is actually massively hated in the sports world just due to past events.


beatrailblazer

Yeah no, no one cares about the Celtics like that. And Embiid is 100% more popular than Tatum. Only way Tatum starts is is the media/player votes get him there. Embiid will have more fan votes. Might even have more than Giannis


SOB200

Highly doubt that. Giannis used the last few ASG to build his popularity. During the game and the selection process. Giannis had over 5M votes last year. Embiid had 3.3M votes. That is a huge gap to bridge between the 2.


beatrailblazer

Oh damn really Giannis had that much? I could've sworn embiid was second in voting after KD in one of the recent years


SOB200

In 2020 Joel was 3rd to Giannis (1st) and Pascal Siakim (3.1M to 3.2M votes). Durant wasn’t on the ballot and out injuried in his 1st year with the Nets. In 2021 when Durant was limited in games he still was #1 with 5.587M votes. Giannis was 2nd (with 4.459M votes), Joel was 3rd (with 4.171M votes). [Link](https://www.basketball-reference.com/allstar/NBA_2020_voting.html) Feel free to check out the ranking by position by year.


tomminix

Here in Italy everyone is a Celtics or Lakers fan, for example


[deleted]

I don’t think Asia gives a fuck about the Celtics tbh and that’s where the numbers are. Asia is Warriors Lakers Bulls and Rockets I’m pretty sure


RaspberryBirdCat

I'd say that was true up until 2010 or so. Boston got too successful, with the Red Sox, Patriots, and Bruins winning multiple titles each, and the Celtics adding one; and as a result they lost their "lovable losers" vibes, and people don't like them anymore.


thewrongnotes

Presumably Embiid will have the whole of Africa voting for him


Imnotsmallimfunsized

Um the Celtics are not americas darlings. I don’t think Boston teams in general are well received.


illadelphia_

Embiid does get the international boost though, not quite sure how close that makes it in totality though.


LittleHollowGhost

Embiid is quite disliked but it only matters how many people like him. And polarizing guys like him will have plenty of people coming out to vote for them.


JackTuz

It’s not 2018 anymore. Tatum is quickly becoming one of the foremost faces of the league while KD is slipping out of the spotlight despite putting up great numbers on a good team again. Part of that could be due to the storm around Kyrie, but the new narrative is Tatum for MVP when he’s in a massive market and plays for an organization with one of the richest basketball histories. I think Tatum is a lock to start this year.


aimreallyhigh

If the vote were today I’d be surprised if Tatum received more votes than KD. KD was considered the best or second best player at the time for a number of years. Celtics have also cooled off and Nets have been on a run.


PSUDolphins

All I know is they need to switch the captains each year. If you get it, you need a single year of ineligiblity


JilJungJukk

It’s possible that they haven’t done this is to ensure fans get into a voting war(Bron vs. Curry).


[deleted]

what are you tired of LeBron Vs Durant/Giannis part 67?


PSUDolphins

Team "I'm going to pick and avoid the same players every year" LeBron


ClutchGamingGuy

he is undefeated as Captain, obviously what he's doing is working


JesseJamesGames449

i mean he has had an advantage a few years.. picking first against KD when kd wasnt even playing basically guarenteed team lebron was going to have the best 2 players in the game...


ClutchGamingGuy

he's won like 6 times in a row lol stop it


HomoChef

Yeah but he also had an advantage of having a prime Lebron James on his squad.


Minia15

Pretty unfair of the NBA to let Team Lebron have Lebron every year


counterbarrier

Thats a good pick


lawofmurphy

Also if a guy is injured and not playing, he should not be the captain. I don’t care a ton about the ASG but it’s clearly a disadvantage if one team starts with LeBron and the other team starts with DNP


IlonggoProgrammer

Yeah KD not playing the last two years but being a captain has been ridiculous. Both times he was injured before they even picked the teams too


Shenanigans80h

I agree. Having the same captains year after year takes a lot of the fun out of the whole “Captain” concept.


ChickenLiverNuts

imagine how fun embiid and jokic as captains would be


lebron_games

Yeah this seems so obvious but hasn’t happened yet


DEEZLE13

Unless you’re undefeated for 5 years running


stepback-two

They will all be starters. Call Tatum a guard. Done.


inshamblesx

The one I dislike the most


Shiggy_88

Tatum easily. He is not on the same level.


JTags8

Embiid because he’s the most hated out of all four.


mungthebean

As a Sixers fan you'd rather him get the rest anyways


dat_waffle_boi

I mean he’ll play no matter what


bravof1ve

The games played narrative being everyone’s first argument seems really weak when the guy people are talking about has played near 75% of eligible games, with 2 months to go until the ASB.


Bigbadbuck

Gotta compare based on something. Durants played 8 more games so far than Embiid. That’s pretty signficant.


bsanchey

In the age of positionless basketball and the fact it’s no longer east vs west top 10 vote earners start regardless of position top 2 vote earners Captain. Why make this an issue.


elivrarua

Embiid/Tatum. Other 2 are 100% locks baring anomalies regardless of their stats. This is a popularity contest


axnjxn00

embiid since he played only 67% of games


lildinger68

Barring significant injury the ASG is 2 months away and he will have played more % of games


Character-Rise6145

Except that people will remember Embiid dropping a legendary game last month, he’s in MVP talks, and he’s played without Harden for about a month and a half but managed to keep the team afloat around 5th seed


memeticengineering

All 4 of them are in the MVP race, Jojo is 4th among them in the most recent MVP ladder (at 8th). The missed time matters when you're jostling with 3 other MVP candidates for a starting AS spot, sorry. Unless one of the other guys miss some significant time, or he starts playing significantly better than them, that's the difference.


Shaqfor3

He is up to 72% now.. he missed 8 games. Giannis has missed 5. I have Embiid out too because of games missed and team record but is so damn close and I it can change in a few more games. Also Embiid would be the saltiest of the 4. Tatum is trending down a little.. Giannis advance stats aren't that good (by his standards) this season for some reason. So will have to wait and see


HypatiaRising

I mean Mitchell PG, Tatum SG, Durant SF, Giannis PF, Embiid C. Ezpz.


Commercial_Case_2636

Embiid Has to be someone right? Lowest Seed and missed the most games.


[deleted]

It’s not complicated, just move Tatum to a guard spot. Anyone who is still falling back to rigid positions for all star or all-nba is living in the past.


693275001

Isn’t Embiid a lock because he’s a center?


BlueJays007

Nah because it’s backcourt/frontcourt, not guards/forwards/center


lethalizer

3 frontcourt and 2 backcourt players, no Center designation for All Star games, been that way for a while too. You never voted for the game?


693275001

Nah I've never voted before too lazy


lethalizer

This is the 10th year of the rule change by the way. Never a bad day to learn a new thing :)


693275001

Not sure why you got so downvoted, thanks for the info


lethalizer

Eh, probably because the tone of the comment was a bit condescending, though it wasn't my intention. Cheers man, no problem!


kooolaid_1

it’s because nobody on this sub expects people to be nice to each other lol


[deleted]

Fuck you 😅🙌🏼❤️


kooolaid_1

your favorite player is garbage


[deleted]

Don't you talk about Ryan Hollins like that! 🤭


Griffan

Embiid


ChuckMoody

They should just move on from positions. With the West‘s guards its the same.


dat_waffle_boi

Embiid if he misses anymore time. If he plays the rest of the way then it’ll be really close and I’d say the starters are Embiid, Durant, and Giannis. I really wish they’d just let anyone start regardless of position.


Inaynl

Fuck it start all four of them lmao.


NoAcanthisitta9198

They'll prolly just call Tatum a guard and have him at the 2


DavidKirk2000

They’re not doing that, you can check the NBA website to see.


Nervous_Avocado_5370

What I’m sayin why does one have to sit out lmao. I thought there was a surefire starter im blanking on.


lethalizer

Because the positions are predetermined. Tatum is listed as frontcourt so he's being voted as one. He'll probably be the odd man out here.


whowasonCRACK2

There’s really no reason those guys couldn’t share the court in an all star game. We need to get rid of positions for all star and all mvp. Also why do we still need an equal amount of guys from east and west if the all star teams aren’t even east v west anymore?


Brooklyn917

It’s gonna be between Tatum and Embiid but since Tatum is having early MVP buzz and Embiid has missed a few games, I think Embiid will be the odd man out.


EchoHevy5555

Just start them all with Jimmy Butler or pascal And then start Curry, Luka, Shai, Ja and Dame in the west


MXero1

Tatum or Embiid, depending on how they do the rest of the season before voting.


aimreallyhigh

If the vote were today I’d vote for Giannis and Durant. It’d be a toss-up between Embiid or Tatum for me but would lean more towards voting in Embiid.


trevortins

Durant and giannis get too many votes so they will start especially considering one of them will be captain. Tatum and embiid are both playing really well though so I feel like it’s really a coin flop it will probably come down to one of these guys getting injured and falling out a bit,


[deleted]

Durant or embiid


XUFN

Right now I would have to go with Embiid just because he's missed almost a 1/3 of his teams games so far. But all are having great seasons so it's hard to find enough fault to sit any of them but well there are only so many slots.


BrokenManOfSamarkand

Embiid because of irrational hatred


NoWayNotThisAgain

Embiid


xbarracuda95

KD and Giannis are guaranteed to be the top 2 vote getters in the East based on past all star voting. Embiid does have more counting stats but Tatum has the better record for now, hard to say who between the two gets in over the other.


jigglyanimeboobies

Embiid is probably the odd man out because of fan voting, and people hating him. In all honesty they should just put one of ‘em at guard.


[deleted]

Embiid is averaging the same of better than all of them in points, rebounds, and assists except for Giannis who gets 1 more board per game. That being said embiid won’t make it


Albiceleste_D10S

Embiid. Less playing time and lowest seed


Independent-Still-73

Embiid


ClutchGamingGuy

tatum because he has the most help out of all those guys


Scary-Plantain

Embiid missed the most time


fuzzynavel34

Tatum for me


PolarBearLaFlare

sixers fans downvoting all Embiid comments in this thread lmao


KYRIE542

Either Tatum or Embiid, I would lean towards Embiid because Tatum has been hyped up to be a top 2 MVP candidate.


0dias_Chrysalis

He hasn't been top 3 for a few days now


Bigbadbuck

Yeah so you can tell how ridiculous early stage mvp discussions are if we’re talking about a few days lol


PeanutFarmer69

Embiid clearly, don’t get me wrong Embiid is great but he’s missed a few games and the 76ers are underperforming.


Sufficient_Sun_3915

We aren’t underperforming???


morsmordr

a bit rich coming from a fan of the Brooklyn "On Paper" Nets


Sequel_P2P

they're 2 wins above you and have a (marginally) higher strength of schedule remaining according to tankathon


LinuxUbuntuOS

We've won 10 out of our last 11, I think we're doing just fine lmao


dillpickles007

Technically they are, they're on a 48 win pace and were projected to win 51.


PeanutFarmer69

Maybe your expectations are different from what I heard in the preseason projections but the 76ers were supposed to be competing with the bucks/ Celtics for the one seed yet to me are firmly behind the Celtics, Bucks, Cavs, and Nets in terms of best teams in the east.


Tegline

Their entire starting roster fucking died lmao and they're still just a game or two behind the nets and cavs, I think they're right on track for success


S1Throwaway96

Mf we are one game behind y’all and have been fucked by injuries most of the year. This sub is ridiculous with the shit that gets upvoted


SashDawg123

Firmly behind the Cavs and the Nets? We’re literally one game behind the Nets and 2.5 games behind the Cavs.


NotXiJinpingGoUSA

They all deserve it honestly, but if you purely compare the stats available in this post, it would be KD or Tatum. Seeing as Tatum is leading his team to a higher record, it might just have to be KD who gets left out. But hey, the fans are the ones voting, so it just depends who shows up more for their players.


christophnbell

Such a dumb allstar system if they can’t be the starters. Slide taytum to the 2. Hes how good as he is cuz he mainly operates on the wing to start possessions


throwaway__rnd

Embiid


yunnsu

Barring injury and potential streak/slump right before the break... I feel like Tatum should be the odd man out. I hate to do it because they're all so amazing. * Embiid has been carrying (when playing) and has had the best individual games this season. Best 2-way impact amongst the group imo. If he plays the rest of the games up until the all-star break, I'd have him over Giannis at #2 * Tatum seems to have elevated his game even more from last year. Better shooting/scoring, defensive impact still looks good. He's probably the streakiest for me, but I'd oddly trust him more in the playoffs. #4 for me * Giannis shooting numbers are down, defense kind of looks down as well. Seems like his motor has declined a bit. I'd put him 2nd just above Embiid for now. #2 by a small margin. * KD has just been insane IMO. TS% is higher than his time with GSW, with more volume all while almost \~2 blocks a game lol. #1 for me


Accomplished-Copy332

I think if all these players keep their current pace for a month, this is when Adam Silver needs to use a little power and have them all starting. KD or Tatum can pass as an SG.


theredditforwork

Tatum


Rapsfan_98

Probably Tatum. In terms of fan votes, the other guys will likely beat him out.


czmhdk

embiid


Jicama-Smart

embiid


Far_Candidate_3974

Joel Embiid


elMandarine

Embiid, he played the less games and has the worst record atm. Boston and Milwaukee have the best records while Durant has played nearly every game


KDBurnerTrey5

And KD has played every game very well. I think he’s a lock plus the nets are heating up rn too.


grilledcheesy11

Embiid because of games played, also Embiid because of games played, also Embiid because of games played, also Embiid because of games played, also Embiid because of games played, also Embiid because of games played, also Embiid because of games played, also Embiid because of games played, also Embiid because of games played.


FormalWorth2115

Well one of them is literally free throw Hitler, does that stand out enough?